BACOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON DELIVERY
>>720791830>slams face first into a wallDo it again, jannie
>>720791830You guys should probably just head to /hkg/ in /vg/ if you're going to keep making these threads. Or not. I'm not your mom.
I don't get the true endingWhy were we so afraid of void if the vessels were chilling there? We'd we even need the flower in the first place?
>>720791954I'm not joining a board full of avatar/name/tripfags that do nothing but derail threads and attention whore.
>>720791920Don't tell me the retarded janitor is deleting silksong threads now. There is no way things have gotten this bad here. Game hasn't even been out for a month. They seriously need to change staff if he's doing that.
The Raped
>>720792085People need to learn to compromise, as stupid as it is>don't immediately make a new thread at bump limit>don't crosslink threadsBy which I mean people should just keep spamming on-topic video game discussion no matter what, fuck the jannies
>>720792007I had the same questionMy guess is that the void is not one unanimous entity and we just lucked the fuck out last second cuz our bro found us
>>720792152>People need to learn to compromiseNo they really don't. We have the same shitty rpg threads every single day. He's astroturfing the board and trying to make it only about what he likes. The compromise is hiro firing him so the site can continue to exist. 4chan was founded to get away from SA mods who acted like this.
>get to act 3>every side quest that isn't a battle is a huge pain in the assno thanks, think I'm just going to go for the ending. Hopefully they don't pull the same bullshit with act 2 where I need to do side quests to progress
>penitent, fourth of the fourth>guilty of the sins of infirmity, sickness>penance by swallowing>absolution granted after death>penance by swallowingwtf
>>720792085It's been like this for a while anon. Jannies don't like video games being discussed on a video games board. It has to be gacha, twitter screencaps, AI (literally called a general), or a stealth porn thread. God forbid a 70 hour game be discussed long enough for latecomers to actually talk about it.
>>720792050None of that's happening thougheverbeit, but you do you I suppose.
>>720792245What, we've been telling you this is an H-game
>>720791830I'm about to attempt this. How rough is the time limit?
>>720792252Well if he's gunna do that then I'm not gunna feel bad about derailing other threads lol
>>720792297>thougheverbeityou need to go back
>>720792329tough...............
>>720792329There's plenty of time I think, IF you don't get hit. You probably have room for one single hit if you super quick, any more then that and you won't make it.
So what’s Mr Mushroom’s deal? Was the place he was in in Hollow Knight not his actual home? Does he just travel around? Why did he convert an area of the silksong map to the fungal place from hollow knight if that want his region? Maybe that just happens wherever he goes and he just so happened to be in the location of Hollow Knight since long before the Pale King?
Do you need wall jump to reach the other end of wormways through mosshome? Or does it not matter because there's a gate to shellwood
>>720792329very doable unless bump into shit/get hit/fuck up the grand gate sectioni recommend going through the spa area
Just saw the red memoryHoly shit how can you guys not like this game? It's pure fucking kino
>>720791830>be me>have alot of time>slam my face into those fucking doors at the end of the journey>lost 4 times for being an actual incestual offspring retard
>>720792085Anon, you DO realize that /v/ is the polbait, steam chart, and blacked porn board, right? Actual video game discussion is off-topic garbage and must be banned.
>>720792329Just go across your route and kill all the enemies beforehand and you’ll be fine. I accidentally took damage 3 times and still made it in time.
>"Hurry up and fix everything so I can get back to shoveling coal"KinoWonder how they will handle DLC? Having something like grimm troupe would be out of place, especially in act 3
>>720792329What's your loadup
>got week off to do nothing but play Steelsoul>bought a shit load of lemonade and pomegranate juice>got several big bag of chips>got a case of ABU diapers that came inI'm going to 100% Steel Soul
Who is the Nightmare King Grimm of Silksong?
>>720792007The Void is a mindless force of nature that seeks only to consume. The Vessels are void given form and mind due to them being borne of divine beings, with them clearly not being as empty as the Pale King hoped. The Void tries to kill us, but Ghost and the Vessels are sapient enough to recognize us and want to protect us.
I assume those missing bits in the Bellway and the elevators eventually fill in, right… right?
>>720792329It's not too bad if you've got the fast sprint and use the flea potion on straight segments.I got hit a couple times and still had ~1.5 bars left using the path through Sinner's Road.
>>720792329It's a lot easier with double jump. Pre-clear your route and don't sit on a bench.
christ, kill me the fuck off
>>720791830imagine glorifying one of the worst fetch quests in the game with a meme
>>720792560Tormented Trobbio.
>>720792602Gee, a lot of these strong enemies spend all their time on the ground, if only there were a tool that was really good at taking out enemies that are on the ground.
>>>/vg/
>>720792631It’s better than delivering the flower in hollow knight.
Trobbio makes me Throbbio if you catch my drift
>>720792675pure cinema that the guy with the amazing drill tweet right after starts whining about the meat delivery
>>720792560Savage beastfly
>>720792329Out of every boss, enemy, quest, and environmental hazard in the game, the Courier's Rasher is the only part of Silksong that I want nerfed. Good luck friend.
>>720792631The one to Fleatopia is worse.
>>720792675Only babies use tools
Nerf Lost Lace.
>>720792743Yes, but in a game with already like 5 of these fetch quests, compounding them makes each one individually worse.Also I think this path is longer than the white flower one, or atleast I thought so initially, you can dodge way more enemies here though I think. Hollow Knights levels, even the open ones were much more claustrophobic
>>720792838Do not do this.
gg idiots
>>720792329You can get there with half of the timer left, which means you're allowed to get hit about 3 times.Someone said that once you get hit, you lose whatever remains of the particular bar you're on, so if you are technically allowed to get hit like 7 times if they're all perfect frame.
>>720792090Like Kevin Nash?
>>720792236No act 3 is very straightforward, you have to kill 3 bosses and that's about it.
>>720792939I feel like the left path is genuinely easier. If I recall if you kill everyone in the way, the only things that respawn are one of those bat bugs and two of those burrowing mask guys and they can all just be run passed.
Help me beat karmelita
>>720792329Tips:>Silkspeed Anklets help a lot>Flea Brew also helps, since it increases your move speed>The Blasted Steps route is the easiest, just ensure that you have the shortcut on the first screen unlocked (a small platform you drop down with a lever) and you'll only have to dodge one enemy the entire time>remind yourself how to do the Grand Gate platform puzzle or you'll drop your spaghetti>once you're in the Choral Chambers, ensure you take a left to go to the spa, as it's safer and spits you out right below the dining hallHere's the entire route without double jump or clawline, if you want to do it early: https://files.catbox.moe/dm1l3r.webmForgive the shit tier quality, I encoded it for 4chan's gay file size limit before I remembered it's too long to even be uploaded here. You can also take the first elevator in Shellwood to be extra safe. You can optimally make it with 50% of the timer remaining, it really isn't hard.
>>720792650Too easy to be NKG, in fact this game is too easy that there is no NKG.
>>720793058jump and get shredded by a heat-seeking giant spinny ball :DD
>>720792449Yep, spa area it is. I would have won if it wasn't for that last stretch.
>>720792939This route is so much more difficult wtf?
>>720792939Wrong path mate, you have to go through the blasted steps, I know it's intimidating, but it's shorter and easier, believe it or not.
>>720791830I got a bunch of progress in act 2 today and those clockwork dancers were a super fucking annoying boss fight. The delay on their attack when they slam downwards kept fucking up my timing, but they are so easy to avoid there's basically no real risk in stage one and two of the fight. It just wastes your time because they take fucking forever.Then stage three hits and they disjoint their timings and that got me twice because I'm kinda bad, and you have to whittle through their first two stages all over again. Really fucking annoying design, first one I've fought I actively dislike. The winning fight took longer than judge even though I was triple tapping them every cycle in the first two stages. Then they have a longer than average intro every time, plus a delay when they swap phases. Yeesh.
>>720793058Use tacksUse cogflyUse poison charmWin
>>720792939unhinged. it's very easy to skip most of shellwood and blasted steps if you know what you're doing, especially with double jump for the latter
>>720793058architect tool spam if you lose your will to fight her normally like I did
>>720792709Shut the hell up janny, you don't play anything
>>720793058I beat her 2 hours ago, hunter crest, and that's about it.
>>720793172>>720793157>>720793056>>720793223you didnt beat the game
>>720793318Deliver to Fleatopia then come back to me.
>>720792765As someone who enjoyed everything in the game outside of the Rasher, I understand this completely.
What's the deal with Seth? How did he "just get born" like it was nothing
I did it the hard way through Shellwood and Blasted Steps without killing anything beforehand and making my way back to the Blasted Steps Bell Beast after every failure. Just had to get good at being fast and dodging everything. The failed run right before I beat it, I made it all the way there, missed the ceiling entrance and bumped into one of the doors.
>>720793432>"just get born"what
>>720793432Seth is literally a tribute to a kid who died of cancer who loved HK
>>720793058Spider man relic is extremely good against her
>he didn't take the route of champions
It's amazing how stepping away for a day or two turns a brick wall of a boss fight into something that is academic after warming up. I also used poison drones though, fuck 'em.Phenomenal game. Loved my time with it.
>>720793056>>720793157>>720793223>>720793172NTA but I took the path through Exhaust Organ and it was significantly easier than the Blasted Steps route.
>>720793496After you beat him you find a new seth that says he just woke up over there
>>720793432Seth is a character created by someone who had cancer, sadly he didn't live long enough to see his character in game. Don't worry too much about his lore.
>>720793056>>720793157>>720793172>>720793223Wow. I avoided the entire left side of the game, I entered the Citadel through Phantom or whatever their name is. So I also did the quest through sinners road, and thats why initially I dreaded the quest, because its a long as fuck route. But I didnt want to blindly explore the left side of the map ive avoided anyway.So it seems based on all these replies I did the hard version anyway. Honestly didnt feel that hard when I was done with it, I was just mad at the game making me go out of my way to deliver one thing. Shitty fetch quests
>>720791830>WHERE'S MY DRINK???
>>720792675You didn't beat the game
>>720793624Guys, I’m starting to think the gourmand didn’t appreciate all the hard work I put in to procuring the ingredients for his meal.
This fucking yt playthrough the algo gave me is retarded>no maps>1 tool in his inv at the end of act 2>no upgrades>no yellow or blue charmspeople play like this?
>makes The Meal after you go through all that shit>It's a fucking horrible jello mould like the kind with shrimp and shit in it funniest moment in the game 4 me
>>720793581pretty sure it's just amnesia
Phantom is such a funny boss>Everyone thought from the trading card she'd be important, plus she looked kind of vessel like>Gets zero dialogue and dies completely after her fight
>>720793637I didn’t do this personally because I was too retarded to remember I had caltrops. But also no you.
>>720792085>They seriously need to change staff if he's doing that.They've needed to change staff, severely cut their pay, and implement clear rules for YEARS now.
>>720793608>I was just mad at the game making me go out of my way to deliver one thingThere is two more.
>>720793141She literally does this without any tell in the third phase
>>720793608I am wondering how. Did you discover the blasted steps and immediately turned around? Cuz that was my reaction for the mist. What made you go through that? especially because the entire area is one big puzzle.
>>720793719Thats the team cherry way. Some retard, like with Dark Souls, is going to find a way to construct a Zanzibart tier story out of her.
>>720792815I use tools on any fight with ads. No ads, no tools. Did lace 2 topless because it was fun as hell. Spammed poison boomerangs at the dumb Bilewater orb because fuck him.
>Fractured maskYou did not beat the game>Reaper crestYou did not beat the game>hunter crestYou did not beat the game>Wandered crestYou did not beat the game>Witch crestYou did not beat the game>Shaman crestYou did not beat the game>Architect crestYou did not beat the game>TacksYou did not beat the game>Thread stormYou did not beat the game>Using npcs to beat the bossesYou did not beat the game>Upgrade your swordYou did not beat the game
>>720793486Samebumping into the door after the spa and losing the run hurt my soul
>>720793719I mean, it's in character. She's Silk's failed attempt at a daughter, hence why she's lurking in what are essentially the sewers. She probably has to use other sources of silk to even stay alive.
>>720792329Do it through Sinner's path no-pre-clearing or you didn't beat the game.
After finishing Silksong, I started a Hollow Knight playthrough. It'll be the second time I've 100%'d the game. I'm five hours in, and I have dash, wall cling, dive, and double jump. Haven't done any of the dreamers yet, and I don't even have the dream nail because I forget where you get it from.Honestly, I'm pretty bored. The game is too fucking easy. I've one tried every single boss so far, even Mawlek and Broken Vessel. It's just making me want to go back to Silksong and it's fucking amazing combat.
>>720791954a new /vg/ general is always a ticking timebomb.they ALWAYS go to shit as actual discussion fades out, better to live on /v/ so that when discussion dies, its just done.>>720792085>Game hasn't even been out for a monthdeltarune ch3+4 was targeted four days in, and relentlessly deleted by one moderator with mass bans until all momentum was killed and people only popped back up for the anniversary newsletter
I decided im skipping any end game activity that doesnt involce a boss (the mini games and shit)
>>720793704>nectar>bacon>poison berry juice>maggots>crusty nutsI didn't have high hopes for the final product
>>720793837>didn’t play through the entire game with a mod that keeps you as prison Hornet for the entire gameYou didn’t beat the game.
is there any special reward for delivering the paint to the mask guy?
>>720792504If it's the void hunting steel guys then act 3 makes sense for them. Personally I hope they do some sort of Act 4/epilogue world state
>>720793959no
My precious fruity bell boi..... all out of merry and joy.... its so over...I do not like act 3
>>720793912the mini games give you a damage upgrade
Bros, I'm so sad right now. You overhyped first sinner so much, but it toke so long for me to find her, with max level needle she went down so fast I was sure there would be at least a third phase, shame because she looked very fast and cool. Can you even get to this boss without the silk soar skill?
>>720793809>Did you discover the blasted steps and immediately turned around?Yes, because I had a feeling it would lead to the Citadel, It was literally on the far edge of the screen and id explored everything below and to the right, so the only way was obviously up. I avoid the main path deliberately to clean up side stuff beforehand. Its just ironic that i stumbled into the citadel anyway. I like my path better anyway since it means I immediately got access to the Bell Beast and Elevator tube thing. Also it was unexpected, so it was a decent surprise.>Cuz that was my reaction for the mist.I also turned back from the Mist at first too, but another ironic thing happened where I found it again, through Bilewater this time, and there was no where else to go in Bilewater so...thats obviously how I got to the Citadel.>because the entire area is one big puzzle.A shitty one too. I kept banging my head thinking there was some logic, but no you just have to use the stupid abiltity you barely use outside of obvious contexual mostly storybeat moments.
>>720793809Different anon, but I discovered the mist and I didn't understand what was going on, I figured it was some kind of maze, but I couldn't figure out the "logic" behind it, I spent half an hour entering and exiting random rooms, and I somehow made it to the last room 3 times, turns out it's easy to navigate>there is total of 5 rooms>first and second you use needolin>third is ALWAYS right exit>fourth needoling>fifth is ALWAYS right exit
>>720793883That's why I'm moving on to completely different stuff. I'm picking up a Doom 2016 replay I was doing before silksong came out, and bought some random cheap garbage to poke at until the black friday sale.
>>720794036yes, you can fight her in act two with a careful double jump
>>720793624With how fat the gourmand is.Is it safe to assume that the servant is an architect?
>>720793486Same, equipped the run faster thing and booked it, doing it like this actually made me discover that you can attack the scales in the grand gate and they tip because i was desperate and running out of time the first time i got there.
Okay I went from Sinners Rise to Bilefuck to the prison and there was no upgrades or bosses anywhere, it feels like I'm just exploring for no reason and might as well go back to the main path
>>720794036>Can you even get to this boss without the silk soar skill?Yeah, you use the treasure chest in the room to jump from
>>720794036Ya you can wall jump up that passage, I fought her in act 2.
>>720794036All you need is double jump and wall cling. She's one of my favorite fights in the game but I can see how she'd buckle with max needle.
>>720794036you can jump on the wall into the hole or stand on part of the chest and jump up
What causes the critical hit? Is it a needle upgrade thing or a Wanderer thing?
>>720794163Wanderer thing, it's either a percent chance (modified by lucky dice) or something to do with attacking right as an enemy starts to attack
>>720794163Wanderer
I think one of the reasons people are saying they like the story of hollow knight more is because of how convoluted the situation in hollow knight is as far as the magic stuff goes. Like you’re the rejected child of a worm god and a plant god who was cast into the abyss in the hope that you become mindless, and then your sibling who was chosen failed in the task of imprisoning a third god in his seams, so you have to go into his dreams and kill that god. The silksong story doesn’t get convoluted until act 3, and even then it’s still not as insane.
>>720794163Wanderer thing, and the blue dice apparently add more crit
>>720792329Pre-clearing made it pretty easy actuallydidnt actually beat it award
>>720793112Half the bosses in Silksong are harder than NKG.
>>720794084>doing it like this actually made me discover that you can attack the scales in the grand gate and they tip because i was desperate and running out of time the first time i got thereThis part filtered me in my early runs until I sat down and memorized the proper order.
>>720793959>Broken Vessel.No, you're just a bitch boy running errands, you get a few rosaries for your slave work.
>>720793837>>Upgrade your sword>You did not beat the gameThis one is stupid. If you actually know anything about the game, not only will you know that this mostly only impacts small enemies, so that you 2 shot them instead of 3 or 4 shot them. But also that the combat is already fundamentally SLOW enough, and making you do it for longer only further highlights the fundamental flaws and the fact that the combat at its core is actually INCREDIBLY simple, like unbelievably so.Once you figure out that the game is just about waiting for enemies to come to you, it destroys the game. Its why I always take risks even when it triggers me, upgrade nail just lets me take risks more without wanting to delete the game out of boredom of dreading the next encounter where I have to hit an enemy 8 times as I wait for them to fly to me each time i push them back.
>>720793837you forgot not playing on steel soul mode before you even start the gameYou can actiavte it by using the konami code in the extras menu apparently
>>720794235you did not beat the game
>>720794194You have to have enough silk to heal in order to have a 2% chance to crit
>>720794084I went through the secret path at the top right of the scales before ever using the elevator.
>>720793912The minigames are fun though...
>>720794290What an odd way to do it, but after hearing what makes Eva give upgrades I'll believe anything.
did beat not the game you
>>720794209To much bullshit with Silk stuff going on. I get it, its like magic but it being able to survive in a ball in the void for so long while even Radiance was deathly terrified of the void kinda makes it to strong.
I want to see Hornet get ROACHED
>>720794036A common opinion is that First Sinner is kino as fuck, but dies way too fast.
>>720794209The actual reason is that they watched lore videos to get the full picture.I doubt most people get a lot out of the HK lore beyond the most basic general gist about the Pale King and the vessels.
>>720792329It wasn't hard at all. No pre-clearing and no double jump.
I used cheat engine to give me infinite health for Lost Lace. She should NOT have 2 contact damage.
So thats's where the soul for the cogwork dancers came from.
One thing I noticed post-fact is I started the gourmand quest before beating cogwork dancers because I hit a shortcut lever from below with a charged attack. Was that patched out or is it intended?
>>720794393Have you tried not standing next to her when she akira slides
>>720794395
>>720794393you couldn't spend an extra 10 minutes or so to learn the boss? why not just watch a lets play?
>>720794367This is the right answer. They need the lore video to make it seem coherent.I have no idea what person considers hollow knight lore a "fun mess" before the abyss.Its literally littered with a bunch of deliberately unexplained stuff, or incredibly miniscule empty hollow lore like "wow the mantis lords defended the entrance from deepnest...so deep...so honourable."
>>720794417I doubt it's intended, there is quite a few of those in Hollow Knight, but most of them aren't game/sequence breaking.
>>720794393
>>720794343BUZZED>>720792090
>>720794447I cheated because I thought there'd be an even more cooler fight afterwards but there wasn't
>>720794109So what's the lore reason for her to use Pure Vessel attacks?
>>720794603Those are just runes, which means that the Pure Vessel/Pale King can write similar runes without having to rely on using silk to do it.
>>720793719theres a mirror you can play the nedolin near her arena that tells you that shes mother silks failed attempt at making a child. And her bestiary entry says she fights you because she wants to die in combat and not just rot away to nothing
Reminder that the SteelGODS can tame and trap and punish those troublesome higher beings. Especially those troublesome higher beings. They WILL buckbreak your favorite higher being.
>>720794367The pale king and white lady dumping babies into the abyss and the hollow knight being an imperfect vessel failing to keep the radiance at bay is all fairly accessible information. It’s the minutiae that is hard to parse in a playthrough. This stuff is all very surface level when it comes to the story:>pale king has a plan>has babies with another god>dumps babies in the void>picks the hollow knight>hollow knight is meant to be empty of mind, but is flawed>unable to successfully contain the radiance>mc has to enter his dream and kill the radiance directlyLike you don’t need a lore video to know these things at least.
Act 4 DLC without voidshit all over the map, plsthx
>>720794710I can't believe how much art the little knight is getting considering he has like 2 seconds of screen time in the sequel.
Hornet should get FLUFFED
>>720794710>spams abyss shriek 1 second later
>>720794603First Sinner is probably also a child of a pale being
>>720794209they made weavers too fucking OP that it diluted the wonder of higher beings. I’m glad they turned out to be such assholes
>void in hollow knight>devours radiance at full strength in her own dream dimension home turf, instantly>void in silksong>jobs to grand momma silk, can't consume her despite her being in a massively weakened statewhat the fuck happened to the void, bro?
>>720794756I think its pretty likely actually. Considering the map has two area that Hornet stops and says she can't go yet, I think the idea of the their being a kind of cleaned map where you have optional DLC shit to further ascend the throne or just leave would be cool.
>Thought this was implying the coral kingdom went to war with Hallownest/the pale king in the distant past>It's a reference to GMSI'm a bit disappointed. There are too many pale beings around now so it would be nice if they were more specific
>>720794795Nah the tiny little spiders they originally were are already assholes
Just got everything. I panicked a little when Mushroom didn't give a memento but found out Sprintmaster had more stuff. This game is such a masterpiece. I'll sleep and tackle the Void Boss tomorrow. Hear shes a doozy
>>720792090>content locked behind being bad at the gameSasuga Team Cherry, maybe they know their audience after all
i'll be honest, i cheated the courier's rasher...BUT, I encountered the quest before i got double jump or clawline so i just thought "what the fuck is this bullshit?" because i didnt have any of the navigational tools that made the route not a main in the ass.if i do a replay im going to do it legitimately.
>>720794876I don't think it's GMS considering the water fucking dried up. Unless she was ruling for that long. Idk
>>720794876why the fuck would hallownest be on a random fucking island you retard.
>>720794826Are you purposely ignoring the fact that the Knight, Hollow Knight, and every single Shade teamed up to brutalizer the Radiance out of revenge?Are you also ignoring that GMS was only able to prevent herself from being consumed by constantly using 100% of her power to combat it?
>>720793192did you have any needle upgrades? It's really not that long. You hate some of the later gauntlets, they get over 10 waves with minibosses in between. Only shit in the game that would piss me off despite only ever losing like 3 times max, they just take so long you get burnt out by the end of a single attempt. Also fuck the clawline. That shit is just not designed well.
>>720792090I just cleared the slab about an hour ago. Kino. I took pictures of her animation frames but I already miss it. This content put me back into favor with the Hunter's crest again. I've been bouncing between Reaper and Wanderer since I got them.
>>720794826Snails are retarded and can’t be trusted to do things correctly.
>>720794972My guess is that the Citadel sucked up all the water for their megafactory, leading to everything ending up dry as fuck.
>>720794826To be fair they outright state the void will consume her and she has no chance of escaping, the problem is that it will bring Pharloom down with her because of the silk threads. It's not like the abyss needs to hurry
>>720795046I've noticed that despite being such a small minority of the bug population, snails appear to be responsible for almost 100% of void related disasters. Really makes you think.
>>720794826gms was dying anyway. The problem was she was taking pharloom along with her.
>>720794826>Comparing a Void united by the Lord of Shades to a random part of it that is not only being redirected, but still badly enough to affect the people trying desperately to not be consumed by it
>>720795108That's it. Get the salt
When I first saw the memorium I thought “oh shit, act 3 of this game is going to have them nuke out the entire first act map” and I thought the bugs were placed there so you could farm them for the journal
>>720794826>GMS uses 100% of her power (currently very limited since she just woke up which is the only reason hornet can actually kill her in the bad ending) and can hold back the void indefinitely by doing that>radiance just... doesn't do that, despite ostensibly being orders of magnitude stronger and already having fought against the void in the past (ANCIENT ENEMY...)radiance also fucking hated hallownest and PK so she would absolutely hold and struggle out of spite just to fuck everyone over as long as she could if that were an optionit just doesn't make sense dude
>>720795249whats the point of that, i still dont know
>>720793540I hate how you can literally face tank every boss with wanderer.
>>720795249imagine the stank of this bitch
>>720794063ghost of tsushima on lethal mode is a great game, like the only good snoy game since the ps3 era. I wish more games had the option to essentially one hit enemies but also have them be able to one shot you
>>720792007yeah, I don’t get it either. Though we see Knight having to slash away the void tendrils when they go for the kill so without the flower, if Hornet jumped in she would have been consumed instantly I guess. The flower probably caught the knight’s attention at the very least
>>720795207It does. Imagine you were in a pool of water. Now imagine that pool was sentient and actively trying to drown you.
FALLO!
>>720795249ANON THIS IS A BLUE BOARD THAT BUG IN THE BACKGROUND IS CLEARLY NAKED
>>720791830I'm loving all the hilarious art for the game. Wish we would get some more cool stuff though.
>>720795294People rightfully meme on Kingdom Hearts but I've always appreciated how Critical Mode gives you an absurd number of abilities so that everyone is a glass cannon.
>>720795207radiance couldnt build a physical barrier around herself like silk could, and even then it was a losing battle for silk because the cocoon was already flooded.
>>720793058Brotip: The wall doesn't go up to the top of the room but that whole area is a safe zone for healing.
>>720795310>throw out spear>dash away with the ground scuttle>repeatGet cheesed.
>>720795207>>>720794998
>96% and still missing one mapBros can you give me a vague hint, Shakra says she sold me everything
>>720795207shade lords focus was directly on the radiance, my dude, in either ending.
Predict upcoming DLC contentY'know, besides a Colosseum/Boss Rush challenge.
>>720795318We're not even two weeks out, most people playing casually don't even know there's an act 3. Give it time.
>>720795364Which area?
>>720795364well, post map, retard
>>720795364where you got the faggot mantis heart apparently.
>>720795267she was stimky
>>720795249>Not allowed to take off your cloak before showering, swimming in a spa, or sitting in the saunaMassive missed opportunity. Shame on Team Cherry.
Found my first free pale oil and finished the quest to get the second oil in the span of 30 minutes. Can't wait to curbstomp some BUGGERS
>>720795303it's not like GMS got dunked in a void puddle, it reaches out and pulls her in itselfradiance was strong enough that even the knight, who is WAY fucking stronger than hornet, couldn't possibly hope to actually kill her and needed the void to do it, meanwhile GMS who jobs to the much weaker hornet is somehow capable of resisting and there's no real explanation for how other than "she loves lace lol"
>>720795425>where you got the faggot mantis heart apparently.Never got that, saw him outside dancers' boss room in act 3 and now he's not there anymore. I'll look for him, thanks
>>720794826>the entire void(including the souls of thousands of death demigods created to fight the Radiance) ganging up on a being that is extra weak to the voidvs>a pale being trapped and certain to die eventually in a pool of void liquid, only barely hanging on because she is using all her power to redirect void attacks up her strings into the surface
>>720795362Wrong>sprint attack>slash spam while Hornet is in the air>dash away>repeatI don't care if it means I didn't beat the game, Wanderer is goated
>>720795346KH2 Critical Mode was the peak of that series' balancing. I wish Silksong had any kind of equivalent mode where you start out with some abilities early while upping the difficulty in other ways, permadeath just doesn't appeal to me as a challenge.
>>720795348Radiance's physical barrier is The Hollow Knight.
>>720795313
>>720795407More memories is the easiest. Could have a Hallownest one, could have an ant one the same scale as the crab and verdant areas, tons of options. The real answer is Act 4 with another 10 hours of content and three new regions.
>>720792007Hornet isn't sure if the Void even had the Vessels in it after killing the Radiance. As far as she knows, the Void killed the Radiance, then it left and the Knight was gone when it happened. She just knows that it attacks anything with Soul and that it can't be reasoned with. Maybe she went back to the Abyss, tried to find the Knight and came up empty handed. That his individualism couldn't stand up to the massiveness that is the chaos of the void. United just for that singular moment and then never again. Given the amount of destruction that was being caused in Pharloom from it being pushed up by Silk, it isn't hard to see why.
>using the counter attack skill in the Lace fight
>>720794826Focused void vs raw void
>>720795476The radiance was up against a billion sentient void ghosts.
>>720795407City… of STEEL. Where we finally see how the SteelGODS put higher beings in their place.
>>720795541and those void ghosts all get oneshot by the knight in the abyss even without voidheart so clearly they're not all that strong
>>720795294Go play metal slug lol
>>720795490wanderer sucks ass though. So many redditors struggle because they refuse to use a move set that isn't identical to the knights and they get raped for it. The games literally not designed for you to use it, i swear TC did it out of spite or something LOL t. reaper crest chad
>a DLC exclusive to steel soul modeyou know they're gonna do it
>>720793112He was a dlcThey’ll undoubtedly add more fucked shit later on
>>720795496That's where I'm at. Full NG+ would be too easy but something with a bit more grit sounds nice, especially now that I'm used to the default pogo and am better about using the clawline in combat.
>>720795476Her cocoon is pretty powerful and we probably couldn't kill her if she stayed in there. She intentionally came out of it to fight us and it's implied that it's all keikaku to get beaten and take over Hornet's body to be reborn stronger. She wasn't counting on our void trap plan.
>>720795606Yeah but it’s a billion.
Finding the fleas was genuinely so much more fun than finding the grubs
>>720795536Yeah. Pharloom's void incident is just what happens when you don't have a lighthouse and someone to clean up cobwebs.
>>720795318I like this meme videohttps://youtu.be/aw3zVkBN7lo?si=4AldZdEirWQSVnL8
>>720792245Yeah, the punishments were messed up. Though I don't know what they could have fed him to. Though it could also be the other way around, I mean, we DO see masses amounts of food trays. Could he have been told to continue to eat and eat until he burst?
>>720795530I really wanna try the needolin skip on Lace 2.
>>720795609>implying i haven't beaten metal slug x a gazillion timesoh anon..... I meant more action games, not arcade games. One shot deaths are kind of standard for those types of games.Fio = Tarma > Eri > Marco
>DLC Remberence battles of the other sinnersPLEASE
>>720795654True, except for that one bullshit one where you have to discover wispland. Also, do we think that wispshit is related to the stuff Grimm was doing in anyway?
Give me some tips for flea dodge. I always seem to get blind-sided by diagonal fleas.
>>720795640where was it implied silk was planning to mindjack hornet? i thought hornet said it was in her nature to be consumed by power and that's what the bad ending represented
>>720795606>if Hornet falls into the void pool she only takes a bit of damage instead of instantly dyingClearly the void is weak as shit
Pollen heart is the best heart. It's a plant, so at least you don't have a literal heart in your house.
>>720795556>implyinga new city would just another silksong situation.>>720795407>>720795635i fully expect a lifeblood DLC with how its been shown when allowed to take root.
Seeing how fucked up GMS was due to the void literally painting her black (before she got ripped apart like the radiance) And how Pale King’s body is relatively undisturbed in the white palace, did he really die of void? Because right now, it was as hell doesn’t seem like it.
So, did all the automatons have souls entrapped in them ? Were they similar to servitors ?
>>720795737You can pogo off fleas. Getting hit doesn't kill you, falling kills you so you can often save yourself with a clawline. Look at the fleas that are about to attack rather than the ones already moving; you know where they are. Stop fixating on dodging each flea and focus on controlling space and moving to areas where you have options for your next move.
>>720795475raphi best
>>720792329It depends. Do you have Silk Treads? Clawline? Double Jump? Each of those items cuts about a solid minute off. If you have none of them, it is still possible, but you might come down to the last few seconds. You'll want to clear most enemies off of the path before the attempt. Just be forewarned though, the veiled bugs WILL respawn from screen transitions, not bench.
>>720795736What was the lore on Grimm again? I remember there being fire, but it was more something like him making a ritual to be reborn.
>>720795806i always thought he just shed his shell again and left as something else to start a new kingdom just like he did when he was the wyrm
GIVEMERCHANDISINGNOW
>>720795806He died of non void reasons, meaning because he's a Wrym he probably isn't actually completely dead.
Thinking back on Hollow Knight and it's so funny how small it feels in comparison now. Not in a bad way of course but I can't imagine going back to it.
>>720795796Listen, its gotta be something with those steel faggots. That one backer’s steel OC isn’t in the game.
>>720795748It's just one interpretation. The other is just that after binding Granny it caused Hornet to become a being like Granny. But the point is Silk staying safe in her cocoon didn't fit her plans with Hornet where she had to leave it to take the risk of fighting, but all she could do against the void was rely on her OP defense.
>>720795640>it's implied that it's all keikaku to get beaten and take over Hornet's body to be reborn stronger.That's not really implied. Silk wanted Hornet in order to have her make silk to help sustain Lace, but Lace thought Silk was trying to replace her with Hornet so she set Hornet free.The Weaver Queen ending was just Hornet getting overwhelmed with godlike power and evolving/devolving into a dominance addicted almighty monarch because that's in her nature as a Weaver/Pale Being.
>>720795806GMS wasnt painted black by void, that was just her underbody without silk.it was to show that she was on her last strands
>>720795874Density isn't a bad thing necessarily. I could probably redraw Super Metroid or Link to the Past's maps from memory because there's little wasted space and damn near every room or tile is unique.
>>720791954/vg/ is cancer
>>720795895a steel incursion DLC will probably be the last DLC before the godseeker equivalent as a teaser for the next game.
>>720793624>no wafer thin mint followup quest
>>720795496Permadeath in the first game worked, since you could blast through that game in no time and beat it without going everything. Permadeath in a 50-70 hour game where the 100% "speedrun" achievement for the perma death mode is doing it in under 30h is retarded. Do not fuck up ONCE for 30h, it just forces you to use cheese tactics or be one of the 3 jobless autists that have the ability to do that, of which 2 are the developers. I honestly don't know what they were thinking
So I beat Lace 2.0, and now the guy at Songclave is saying I'll need some stuff for a trap. I got the snare, and the soul from the big guy in Bilewater. There's still two souls missing. Where could they possibly be? Are they in the new area after Lace, or did I miss something from previous locations?
>>720795737Don't move from the platform. If they're not targeting you, don't move. Don't jump, only do so when they're targeting you. As soon as another platform appears, move to that one. The other anon's advice are ok too.
Redpill me on Beast Crest. How are you guys using it?
>>720795960Next game you play as radiance’s secret kid.
>>720795916I saw some people mistakenly thinking that she's tied up at the end when she's actually trying to hold everything together and when she collapses it's because she's running even lower on silk and that's when the room starts flooding.
>>720795987Talk to the quest guy and he points you in the right direction for each one I think.
>>720795954The two threads we have right now don't really feel any different to me tbdesu.
>>720795987the guy at songclave gives you hints
>>720795987the souls are from his family, find them and they'll give you the souls.dont talk to him again if you want to try and find them yourself.
>>720796009Mash attack in the boss’ face.
>>720796009I'm not, but if I was I would try using the drill tool for better pogos.
>>720793837>Every crest but BeastLike Witch is fuckin better? Get cursed like a man, you're a baby who heals
>>720796040>>720793909
>>720795916all pale beings are actually black underneath? Bros….this is polar bears all over again
>>720795852the stuff i remember was that the grimm troupe worships a higher being as well, the something (grim?) heart. TMG and his troupe is looking for powerful beings to sacrifice to thr heart. He is is either a herald of a physical manifestation of the heart, not sure.I might be wrong, taking this from lore videos i watched years ago.
>>720795987He tells you doesn't he?Do you know what the Caretaker is? Have you figured it out? You've definitely met at least one other person like him.
>>720796060Hmm yeah I think it makes sense to have in boss fights. Doing narrow hallways with spikes is death since you can't just heal.
>>720796107>TMGTightmare Ming Grim?The Mightmare Ging?
>wanderer has the old moveset>didn't use it on 1st playthrough because it's boring>architecht/witch main>start steel soul>use wanderer>can hit twice on opening where other crest only get one>dish out damage like crazy on downed bosses>got dice and start critting everywhere>ez modo platformingnow I see why people shilling wanderer...
>>720795870The travellers journal for all the enemies like in HK would be really really cool
>>720795916Well either way higher beings get fucked up by void. But the pale king’s corpse is clean
Managed to test out getting captured while cursed, it just fucking murders the fly.
>>720796191When fleas rest and their wings droop it looks like sad little eyes.
>Witch has the coolest moveset>but also the worst healI don't mind the gimmick in theory but the game is not designed for it. The hitbox is too small and you need to land all hits to heal properly which means even if you're lucky enough to not get hit out of it you won't get 3 masks back
>>720796227kino
>>720795470>TAKE OFF prompt near the bath>You can just forget to put them on again and do the entire game naked and toollessI mean all you would lose is the floating cape, the double jump, and riding air currents, nothing you actually need
>>720796227kek holy shit
>>720796227Fuckin' sick.
Am I the only one who thinks the DLC will be something unrelated to main story? I imagine it will be a memory of someone.
>>720796227That’s awesome.
>>720796167Tiddy Master GoonTroupe master Grimm but i guess Nightmare King Grimm is actual name
>>720792085Nikke thread died for this...
>>720796227An interaction only 7 years of development would make. Wonder why they made it that way though, too unfair and hard on players maybe?
>>720796227Oooh
>boss teleports on top of you unless you move in the exact pattern it wants
>>720796227Damn that's cool.>>720796272Kino.
>>720796227ok now im actually curious if there's a unique ending for doing lost lace while cursed.
>>720796327>too unfair and hard on playersI don't think this would have stopped them.
>>720796283I really hope it's a "finishing the stuff we had to trim down" DLC that's first down the line. Expand every Act 3 heart boss zone so they're all at least Verdania size.
>>720796227Lol lorefaghots were saying those sprites were cut shit. Nice one, anon
>>720796327Probably didn't want to deal with the state machine and quest interdependencies of being trapped in the slab while cursed
>>720796176>extra hits give you extra silk, which means even more damage and heals>extra attacks means more chances of parrying attacks and taking no damage>also crits because why notWhat were they thinking?Only Architect comes even close.
>>720794891you know you can access the slab without being captured too, right?
>>720792939you beat the game
>boss hidden behind hidden path>vendor behind hidden pathwhat the fuck moments for me, I'm already hitting every wall but theres so much hidden shit and not just minimal stuff
>>720794840>Considering the map has two area that Hornet stops and says she can't go yetretard are you talking about the exit to the fucking wasteland? why would you think that's somewhere we get to go later?
>>720796283Can it please fucking involve the pale king in any way. I'm not sure if team cherry is planning on shutting the book on hollow knight after silksong, but if they do, lets get some fucking closure on this fag
>>720796176Same reaction i had to it. First playthrough was hunter with no tools and it's insane how much easier the game is with wanderer and cogflys
>>720796428Nta, but do you still get the prisonbreak stuff if you don't get captured?
still trying to piece together the loreGrand Mother Silk uplifted the weavers, and together likely conquered and subjugated most of pharloom, ruling it terribly. the weavers thought themselves to be the daughters of Silk, but that was proven to be a lie to them when Lace and phantom were created. feeling betrayed, they betrayed Silk, and along with all the other bugs of pharloom wanting to be free, trapping her in a silk cocoon, forced asleep with song. all of the citadel is built at this point, that's why the massive music machine was built right under the cradle, the song was to keep Silk asleep. all resources are devoted to keeping this terrible god asleep and building the citadel and a system of faith to do so. we learn the snails were consulted on this plan to trap her, and their plan to kill Silk within the void was not followed, the weavers themselves objected to it. SOMETHING happens that causes the weavers to leave. the conductors take over. the conductors may have turned on the weavers, or the weavers may have realized that Silk still has power while asleep and her awakening is inevitable, so they run. now without weavers to supply silk, the citadel sends out missions to capture lost weavers to harvest their silk. this is how they eventually get hornet, they get desperate and go after the biggest weaver left, for silk that they need to keep their trapped god trapped. they start doing everything they can to get silk now. but they're failing to upkeep the cocoon. the haunting starts as it runs thin and Silk's threads start to leak through containment and cause madness. game starts around here. I'm fairly sure the conductors are still, sort of in charge when we arrive? as the last dregs of authority in a now crumbling society. their trapped god is going to wake up and kill them all at any moment and they cant stop it now.I could be so wrong though. there's a bunch of shit that I dont quite know how to fit in. might have to replay the game to understand more
>>720796451Bilewater is hidden in a bullshit corner of a room and that place is massive.
>>720796506There's two ways to access bilewater
The biggest lore question to me is the mechanics of making bugs sapient. The bugs on the surface are just normal bugs, and Quirrel started losing his mind when he left Hallownest. Do all pale beings just give off an aura of sentience or something?
Correction sex with Lace, followed by aftercare cuddles.
>>720796471The closure will occur with HK3, it is clear from seeing the act 3 end and the end of the mushroom HK3 will likely be about stopping the void once and for all, with two different gameplays, Hornet in the light and the little guy in the dark world
>>720796502I'm still super unclear on when exactly Grandma made Lace and co. but it has to be AFTER the Weavers rebelled. Maybe there was a period where they started to rebel but before they ganged up and put her asleep or maybe she managed to spin them while she hibernating after the Weavers had already fucked off. But it kinda seems like it had to be before because they started dying out when the kingdom started running low on silk and now it's just Lace and Phantom left and one of them's already a lost cause.
>>720795249What happens if you shower while infested with muckmaggots?
>>720796659Probably what makes them godly in the eyes of bugs, while also giving pale beings a god complex
>>720792236But all act 3 side quests are battles?
>>720796176>>720796485You didn't beat it.
>>720796716bro your sprintmaster swift?
>>720796704it makes mustard gas
>>720796626What was the second? Is it the place across from the exhaust organ? I can’t really remember. In my playthrough I discovered the petrified ducts long before Bilewater.
>>720796227How much is in this game no one found yet?
>>720796626>>720796772there are four ways a player could enter bilewater for the first time, retards
>>720796739cope and seethe. I also made a macro to insta save quit when the cope mask broke
>>720796757A battle of speed
>>720796772There's another path from sinner's road to the east (not the mist/exhaust entrance)
>>720796710It would give lore reasons for the pilgrimage. Getting close to silk would be a form of approaching enlightenment if that literally gives you more sentience.
>>720796704Swimming in regular water will kill them, so it would be cool if it did the same.
uh did I fuck up? never met this guy before act 3
>>720796835he's just some lore/worldbuilding
>>720796401More then likely this. Since the game forces you back to Hunter when you get your stuff back. So in this instance, it would have to set your default to Witch. Now you might say "Well, that's easy, just set a flag while you are cursed and undo it once cured.", but what happens to those people that the flag fails to set for? Does the game crash when it attempts the switch back? It should be easy to test, I'm sure that someone can save edit themselves into the Slab, naked while cursed.
>>720796835You missed your chance to talk to him. You didn't miss anything important though.
>>720796810I wasn't counting the exhaust organ because you don't REALLY enter the area from there. What's the last? Putrified Ducts path is blocked from a one-way at the bottom, isn't it?
>>720792539>diapersshighydiggy
>>720796878Whispering Vaults, the big drop
>>720796680Yeah, Mister Mishroom says to Hornet that they'll meet again or some bullshit. That was one weird conversation.
>>720796367Oh god, I'm already imagining the thing trying to consume the Void and that is that final thing we have datamined. It certainly looked like a void being.
>>720796835He's better off, trust me.
>>720796812Nta, but it is kind of weird to play the mode where you only have one life only to cheese it in a way that makes it no different from playing the game regularly.
>>720796865Maybe they just didn’t want to animate naked Hornet getting wrapped by the roots when trying to heal.
>>720796456I know it wouldn't lead to an area, but surely they can add an ending where Hornet just leaves. I really though the act 3 ending would have us have some kind of "say goodbye to everyone" moment where the ending only occurs once we leave
>>720796227WAIT, doesn't this imply that flies "opened" her and suffered the curse?
>>720794891I killed the kidnapper in Hunter's March, but he showed up again in Greymoor and grabbed me after I'd already reached the Citadel.
>>720796910>Exhaust Organ>Bilewater>Whispering VaultsWhat's the fourth?
>>720796910That's the other one I was thinking of:1: east sinner's road2: the mist (barely counts)3: Whispering vaultsWhat's the last one? I know it connects to putrified ducts, but that requires you to u lock doors from both sides
>>720796930They could have just disabled your heal. I'm sure there is another reason for it.
>>720796810yeahputrified ductssinners road> the mist> exhaust organsinners road (double jump/pogo)..actually what's the 4th? whispering vaults? i doubt anyone took that path first lmao
>>720791830>prolonged pogo boss fight>fast moves that turns its entire zip code into a hitbox>forces the whole strategy to devolve into pogoing ONCE then dip before you eat shit>to top it all off, they named the cheevo for beating it Sneed7 years lmao
>>720796878you can enter bilewater from sinner's path, whispering vaults, putrified ducts, and wormways
>>720796995You can't enter bilewater from putrified ducts unless I'm missing something. I tried on my second playthrough but it was locked from something below it.
>>720796957No, the cage works on soul binding. The crest is a window to the soul. So when it tried to activate the seal of binding on the cage, the witch crest burst out to protect itself from being sealed.
>>720796991I genuinely think it’s just the artist saying “I could animate the whole thing, or I could do one drawing of a dead bug killed by roots”
>>720796227Here's the video for anyone that cares. Nothing exciting, it just fades to black with noises in the background.https://streamable.com/u53tmn
>>720796995i discovered bilewater via the fall from whispering vaults
>>720796957>Cage tries to subdue her powers>The curse lashes out and tries to take over Hornet because she's weakened>Destroys the cage in the process, releasing Hornet before it could kill herEither that or it lashed out after the cage attempted to subdue it's power.
>>720797028>wormwaysYou know the forbidden screen wrap tech?
>>720797038You can’t. You only enter putrified ducts either through Bilewater or that breakable wall outside the memorium.
>>720796957it kinda just comes out when it wants toit bursts out of her when she breaks free from the tree in chapel of the witch
>>720797041Oh hey has anyone gotten cursed then tried to pick up another crest? Man so much shit I never thought to do...
>>720796930>naked Hornet getting wrapped by the roots when trying to heal.Holy fuck...
>>720797128We're talking about the ways to enter bilewater, not the putrified ducts
Why the FUCK did they think adding a fucking crying baby to your inventory was a good idea?
>>720796502some other notes I've put together:the bells were made by the bug society that existed before grand mother silk took over. the cultural idea of the bells stuck through the change in culture and faith, like christmas trees. notice most of the bells are outside the citadel.widow explicitly states that grand mother silk is not 'awake' yet and that tangling all of bellhart is 'a gift' for her. grand mother silk wanted a true daughter, which was why lace and phantom were made, but im not sure how they survived after she was put asleep for so long. they seem to be agents working toward her awakening now, as well as widow.Lace says she's going to kill hornet in the docks when you first meet her. she's trying to stop hornet from going to the citadel where the conductors can use her silk to keep grand mother silk trapped for longer.widow was a weaver subjected to cruel punishment, might be part of why the weavers turned on grand mother silk, or part of why they left. the conductors could have done it, and the weavers realized they werent safe either. if the conductors did it, it would explain why she's a fanatic for grand mother silk now. if grand mother silk had done it, that wouldnt make sense to me.high halls might be so high that the hautning threads from the cradle dont reach it, that's why the conductor is there, but I'd have to go look to confirm that. the bugs of the citadel fight really hard to keep hornet out of the conductor's room, he's important. likely their leader.the crazed conductor in white ward used to be a leader but went mad from silk life extending surgeries. the one living conductor is still kept alive by a spool of silk, but very close to death.>>720796659pale beings make bugs smarter. the bugs in the citadel, basking under grand mother silk, are REALLY smart. see all the clockwork shit they've made. they've trapped their god so they don't have to listen to her, but still reap all the benefits of her presence.
>>720795816>>720796000Thanks for tips. 79, good enough to beat Vog. Now just need to juggle.
>>720797175Because they needed you to want to look for a way to get rid of it so that you’d actually do the quest.
>>720797065This fucking root kid parasite is probably one of my favorite things to come out of silksilk
>>720795530>lace counters me>I counter her backAbsolute kino
>>720797175same reason they thought you'd enjoy permanently installing the fourth heart into your bellhome with a 1,000 decibel heartbeat effect that never stops
>>720797175It seems like the only crying baby here is you.
I just got to the inn and met the cute snail? girl.She didn't try and kiss me though. I guess that happens after i complete the hunting journal?
>>720797246she doesn't kiss incels, sorry. you can't even get pussy in a videogame lmao
>>720797185Anyone know the significance of the first sinner?
>>720797185>grand mother silk wanted a true daughter, which was why lace and phantom were made, but im not sure how they survived after she was put asleep for so long. they seem to be agents working toward her awakening now, as well as widow.Well for one there were obviously a lot of them at some point but now so much time has passed most of them died and turned into ghosts you encounter in the Mist. Only Lace is alive and Phantom is like half-alive.Second, Lace is absolutely not helping her mother. She's doing everything she can to interfere with her plans because she's a lil cunt.
I'm still missing stuff but I dunno if I need to advance to act 3 to actually access some of thisAm I locked out of any actual items/quests if I move on?
>>720797175anti-design is more fun to millionaires than good design
>>720797286There's notes in another part of the jail. She was the first weaver to break ranks and attempt to fight grandma.
>>720796827the pilgrims are explained in whiteward. for generations the citadel used silk to extend the lives of bugs, those bugs had offspring, those offspring had silk in their shells. eventually, as grandmother silk, the original source of all silk started to stir, the silk in the bodies of those descendants pulled them to return to pharloom, where the silk inside of them made them easily susceptible to the haunting.
>>720797286She figured out that GMS lied about Weavers being her daughters, and she rebelled and spread the truth of her deception.
>>720797296The main things you're locked out on are the easiest farming spot for rosaries/shards, optional duels against Garmond and Shakra, and some minor lore dumps. Everything else of importance should be fine.
How do you get dice before the guy dies? I've robbed the poor fucker out of rosaries, but he still won't give me the dice.
>collect khann, nyleth, and green nigga's hearts>get the flower>go back for karmelita's heart>hornet still has the "i need your heart for a noble cause blah blah blah" dialoguedisappointing desui figured with all the attention to detail in this game they would at least have dialogue for when you already have the flower, y'know? shit's just going to hang on my wall that's not a noble cause and you damn well know it
>>720797246>/v/ though Nuu was an ugly bastard>now that they know she's female, they think she's cuteNever change, /v/irgins.
Need pics of Grandma sitting in a rocking chair knitting with silk
>>720797413Near as I can tell you can't. Dice are act 2 from his cave or act 3 from the thief's shop.
>>720797407How do I get the Garmond fight? He's just chillin in Songclave and I never got any quests for him
>>720797423>lil gremlin girlAw you're sweet.>lil gremlin guyHello, bug resources?
>>720791954>/hkg/ in /vg/(or /trash/ if you're into that)
>>720797417Hornet is a psychopath and is lying, knowing damn well, she just wants to steal people's hearts.
>>720797109secret tunnel/warp near zango in the wormways leads to eastern bilewater. requires double jump or clawline
>>720797291yeah, you're right about lace, she's a brat,and in the act2 ending hates her mother so much she wants to be the one to end her.so then lace sided with the conductors you think? I took her saying she would kill hornet as proof otherwise, as it wouldnt make sense. if she were trying to keep her mother trapped, she'd try to capture hornet alive so her silk could be harvested. maybe she's just a little shitterI took the wraiths to just be products of the miasma of soul and silk and death that were expelled from the citadel. once the exhaust organ is stopped, the mists are depleted and the wraiths gone.
>>720797451Not entirely sure, didn't get it myself. I think it's something to do with the upper parts of the citadel that you get to through the cogwork heart but beyond that I've got nothing.
>>720797539she certainly stole mine
>>720797465This is true unless the lil gremlin guy is a cute shota
>>720797434Need more pictures of other characters that aren't Hornet in general, I wish twitter didn't suck so much for finding art.
>>720797553There is no way you aren't making shit up
>>720797413I got them playing dice with him. I won 6-7 times and lost about 3. I don't remember now, but could it be that you have to win several times in a row? When I started playing I had 0 pearls, when he gave me the dice I had 20, so flrse you have to win 20 coins as a final count in a session?
the girly characters are boys and the boyey characters are girls
>>720797635When I first saw the ant area I was hoping the ant queen was going to be a giant fat termite queen style fucker.
>>720797417This should honestly be brought up to Team Cherry. They'd probably change the lines to make it special.
The DLC will be the Void still fucking up PharloomIt will be the Knight doing it on purpose to eventually try to get Hornet into the Abyss in the hopes that his last sibling will join him forever and ever and ever in hellThe true ending will be Hornet doing this, but not before giving Lace the gift of her silk and setting up Hollow Knight 3 with Lace as the protagonist starting a quest to use her new silk powers to light up the Abyss and get her girlfriend back
>>720796502>>720797185from what i understand...>GMS founds pharloom>GMS uplifts weavers, tells them that they are of divine creation>things go fine for a while, but eventually they realize that she's a liar.>they trap her and live in lavish rule for a while.>they establish the architect, conductor, and vault keeper positions to ensure that there will always be enough song to keep GMS asleep.>they pervert the citadel as a whole to keeping GMS asleep. from recycling as much silk as possible to >they realize that GMS is going to wake up eventually anyways.>oh god oh fuck ensues, they decide that they need a weaver who will bind GMS and take her place as a weaver god.>make eva>absolute failure.>fuck it, pharloom isnt worth it.>they all make their escape, but not before ensuring the system they made out of the citadel will keep going for as long as possible>biggest group goes to hallownest, has hornet, yadah yadah>meanwhile, back in pharloom>the bugs decide to try and make themselves live longer by using silk so that they can continue to serve.>GMS wakes up>sees everything the weavers have done and gets pissy>makes new children out of silk, notably phantom and lace (she has a clear favorite)>binds everyone with silk, which is piss easy since they're already loaded with the crap, and "re organizes" things. >most of the systems the weavers made actually help her, so she doesnt need to do much.>also calls out to distant descendants for more help>eventually she starts to wear herself thin, needs more silk to both command the kingdom and keep lace alive>idea: kidnap and use weavers to bolster her own silk production>problem: they die eventually>idea (copy): use the children of weavers>problem: they, also, die eventually. and being less leaver means worse silk production>idea (copy) (copy): use hornet since she's half pale! lives for fucking ever and has much greater silk production to boot>problem: she's half pale, leads to the events of the game
>>720797616learning Sherma was a dude certainly changed the vibe of the onsen scene
>>720797689imagine believing that they put four hearts in on accident and it never occurred to them in 6 years of development that you could get 3 of them before you get the last one
>>720797651I appreciate the Lairon-looking motherfucker is actually a girl
>>720797695I want to play as the pure vessel damn it.
>slab has 4 benchesWho's in charge of bench distribution? They are not doing a good job
>>720797681i mean, she is big and fat. she's just hiding in her room out of shame and you only fight her how she was before she became a brood mother.
>>720797651Based...
>>720797701I love evil women trying to be immortal
>>720797635She's an act 3 boss, its going to take some time for artists to reach her.
>>720797142Doesn't let you, they thought of everything apparently.
Need artwork of club gil Shakra, with her ring weapons as glowstick rings to match this songhttps://youtu.be/FZ_fJffA8M8
Is Trobbio a top or bottom?
>>720797843She was featured in marketing material so her design was already out there before the launch.
>>720797871Powerbottom
>>720797701this doesnt work if you account for widow's dialouge above bellhart. widow explicitly says she is haunting bellhart as a gift for grand mother silk when she wakes up. meaning she's not awake yet.
>>720797871Service bottom/brat.
>mfw tge elevator to the citadel has no way of going up, it was always going to take people down to the underworksThis games has great religious commentary honestly.
>>720797738i want the city of steel to be pure vessel's game.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/720491137/#720534878
>>720797864That root thing must’ve been a much later addition because they lined up a bunch of contingencies.
>>720797871Pretends to he gay to fuck more bitches
>>720797732These devs are not retarded enough to intentionally make Green Prince's ending be Hornet murdering him at his "funeral" for literally no reasonIt's got to be cut or unfinished content they never got around to fixing.
>>720797970>for literally no reasonIncorrect. His gay beating heart is now a house ornament
>>720797774>benches aren't distributed for the player>you have to pay to sit pre citadel>slab has 4 because the jailers are the ones roaming and using themShits fucked in the best way possible
>>720797932religion.................bad??????
>>720797635>Last piece from the artist was 6 years ago.Damn, hoping the game will make her want to doodle something but thats a huge hope with that hiatus.
>>720797943Imagine the game is pure vessel breaking into a functioning oppressive warrior dictatorship and dismantling it or something. Like for the people inside they aren’t haunted or infected by anything beyond ideology, so you’re just fighting fully sapient bugs.
>>720797932But sherma did get up silly
What's so special about rosaries anyway? Are they really just currency? Feels like the citadel is way too obsessed with them
>>720795207The radiance and granny Silk have different powers, Silk with her threads is more capable of affecting the physical world, and can create life entitely made of it, the Radiance is harder to kill, as it lives in dreams, and is more capable of infecting.
>>720798034Underworks enemies also drop very few rosaries because they're all broke as hell from all the exploitation.
>>720791954Will we be able to save Silk Mother in dlc or she is pretty much permafucked in void?
>>720798093Prayer/song
Finished it.Good parts first, Hornet's moveset and skill ceiling is very enjoyable. Platforming is much better. Tools are really cool. The amount of little interactions in the game is wonderful. Most of what made the first Hollow Knight enjoyable is present here in some way or form. The secret areas, the cool charms/crests, it's great. The Choral Chambers are awesome, top 3 Team Cherry area. And the side quests are actually well designed.Bad parts. The story and music is more forgettable than I expected. The lore has nothing attention-grabbing. The map feels bloated and lopsided despite a lot of work clearly going into it, and about half of the areas just elicit a shrug out of me. A lot of the enemy/boss movesets and behaviors are eyeroll inducing and overdesigned. The first game tried to have a balance of comfy exploration vs hectic combat - Silksong is always 'on', doesn't let you breathe and take in the sights as much as it should. Shard system is retarded. Being able to lock yourself out of content by mistake or by progressing too fast sucks.Waited for this game for years and once I'm done with it, it'll occupy my mind a whole lot less than I expected. It's a good game and I'm satisfied with my purchase, but I thought it'd be the type of game to occupy my mind for weeks after I finish it. With the first game I had this impulse to listen to the OST and remember all the little moments and think about the lore and wonder about it. With Silksong I can see myself theorycrafting about crest+tool combos but the narrative components of the game aren't sticking with me much. Kinda bummed about that.
>>720798093Basically just money with religious significance so that religious characters care about it.
>>720798157>save silkfor what reason
>>720798060>>720797635
huge fan of silksong all but confirming that Hornet also ran the path of pain
anybody have that image that shows nail/tool damage
Lore question. So if the game is a sequel to the godhome ending is there any reference to what happens to the Hollow Knight? Once the knight becomes the void Lord and kills the radiance, then the hollow knight fucks off back to his still alive body and runs into Hornet. Does she ever mention that at all? Do we ever find out if she had to fight him or if he just went on living peacefully after that or what?
>>720798221i meant grand mother silk.
>>720798093The Citadel isn't obsessed with them, but rather the pilgrims and other worshipers that are so obsessed with being faithful and devout that rosaries have become valuable enough to be used as money despite being technically worthless.
>>720798271No.if it's ever brought up it'll be DLC.
>>720798235oh she doesn't like it?
>>720791830so i just killed the big boss...but that kicked me to the title screen rather than start up act 3.can i get some hints on what I need to do?
>>720798271that’s why people are saying they want a pure vessel game. The godhome ending most likely being canon implies that he’s just out there alive and doing shit
>>720798332If you've done a lot of sidequests and exploring, check all the major towns to see if anyone has a better idea of what to do than just running up to grandma and having a dickwaving contest.
>>720798271>>720798316TC has said "all the endings are canon" which is bullshit BUT I think they did intentionally make it so whether you got the Radiance ending or the Godhome ending nothing in Silksong will directly contradict what you saw. Obviously the bad end and Sealed Siblings end are explicitly non-canon though.
How big is this fucking game jessu fucking christ>Get to the Vaults>From there randomly get into Bilewater>But from Trobbio you randomly get also into Underworks>And then to some other random placesIt feels like this map is neverending holy fuck i am 27 hours into the game act 2 got all the movement upgrades and still feel i have like 100 areas to explore
>>720798332Do all the quests you can find and relocate the flea caravan to the final location. Once the board in bellheart has the “silk and soul” quest, do that.
>Hornet's cloak "Smells of fly">Goes away once you go into waterThis took 7 years because they forgot they were supposed to be making a metroidvania, not an eroge
>>720798332>fleas, move them to the final area>quests, specifically silk and song. If you don't have it available, do more quests
>>720798427Great now I have to do the prison sequence AND avoid all the water to maximize Hornet being sexually degraded
>>720798492>Get up to Lace 2>"Wow you stink"God it'd be so cool
>>720798427That's really hot.
The first AAA h-game
>>720792675the two mega cunts at once is just pure sadism.do fuck off.completely dumped my nails + saws on those fuckers just to ensure they die before moving.
>>720798427i love hornet's narration on things>"subtly" insults the faggot incest mantises by calling them vain>showers the huge and fluffy bugs in compliments>racist to an extreme against flies
>>720798427DoL tier
Dunno if this will be the rest of the game as i am in act 2 but I am kinda sad there are almost no references to the first HK except>Back in my hometownFrom Hornet, sometimes. Bitch you fucking killed a moth god.
>>720792329My tips is to install some mods. At least some that increase your rosary gain at least. Eventually going through all the game's bullshit punishment mechanics becomes too much imo unless that is what you are into.
>>720798576I love her hatred for the roaches
this boss is really unfun + he's a faggothttps://files.catbox.moe/7dpmh3.mp4
Pale King did nothing wrong. Every other Wrym was so much worse
>>720798427They should make it so you can be captured and taken to the Slab more than once, making you smell worse and worse until bugs start accusing you of getting captured on purpose
>>720798642this boss is really fun + he's a faggot
>>720798598Just keep playing champ.
>>720798576not incest. also she called them vain because imagine being so self centered you'd only date yourself lmao
>>720798401they also said this years ago so it might have be true then but rewrites happened between then and now
>>720798667He kind of put a billion of his own children in a pit and left them there.
>>720798552>Lace mocking Hornet for getting creampied by flies>On top of haughtily laughing when she beats you>A red-faced Hornet struggling to keep the smell of flies off her mindYeah that'd be so cool haha
>>720798750... to save his nation from a disease. And it worked too
>>720798642>calling trobbio a faggothe's a dramatic performer, the only faggots here are the mantis lovers
>>720798791It worked in spite of that, not because of it.
>>720798750no cost too great
>>720798642>shitting on trobbiokys
>>720798318Doesnt seem that way. But she's still makes no promises on new art.
>>720798682This game really needs a porn mod.
>>720797701>>720797908so if GMS is not awake yet, that means she only wakes up when hornet actually arrives in the cradle. this means that if GMS cares about lace, which we obviously know to be true, lace had to be made before GMS was put to sleep.but imagine you're a god and you get betrayed by the species you uplifted and put to sleep for hundreds of years and the first thing you see when you wake up is some little shit in a red cloak that's half descendant from your uplifted children and half some other god-being. obviously you try to kill her on the spot. kinda funny.also if you failed to notice, symbol for the entire religion of pharloom is the containment system for GMS. the circle with the half loop thing. you see it in the background of the cradle.the pilgrims journey up to see the cocoon for themselves, not to be convinced to help her escape, but to contain her for longer. that's why they have to get the song parts from the three leaders of the citadel. they get pulled to the source of silk by the silk inside them, and get convincced to help continue the imprisonment of the god that made all that silk in the first place. fucked up.are any of the bugs in the citadel actually haunted? are there any cases where we see the silk strands take control like we do on the road up? I dont think there are. I think they're all still in service to the conductors. and all those guys in the underworks with brooms, they're sweeping the haunting strands away I just realized.
you remember the lady that crafts you the floating mantle? there's a dialogue that implies she has a sister and we met her. but who was she talking about?
Does Lace show up in Act 3? She seems kind of underused. Like they had bigger plans for her but didn't know where to put her.
>>720798943She's also a pintress, who's the other old pintress we've met?
>>720798943The one that teaches you the charge attack dummy
>>720798943pinstress. the 3rd sister is in putrified ducts and is dead. she's also next to the wreath of purity item
>>720798967She's stuck in the Abyss and shows up once before you fight her for the third time.
>>720798967yea there's an anal rape scene with her in act 3
>>720798967Maybe you should finish the act first
>>720798943>>720798969>>720798973There's even special dialogue if you wear the pinstress' badge and talk to the seamstress
>>720798931>are there any cases where we see the silk strands take control like we do on the road up?there are quite a few.did you somehow miss lace taunting you your first time in the citadel?or the high halls gauntlet?you're not a secondary are you?
>>720798931>are any of the bugs in the citadel actually haunted?You see dead ones get brought to life occasionally.
>loudly and repeatedly roars "ZANZIBAU!">zanzibart>asks you to forgive him at one pointwhat did team cherry mean by this?
>>720798206Also one thing I really liked in the first game were the audio cues. Like when you pick up an item or a tool or you ability for the first time and that short three tone melody plays, sounds so nice. Or that really satisfying moment when you are climbing up to AbsRad in the final fight and you can hear the godseeker finally starting to attune to the Knight and coupled with the rhythm of the laser beam it sounds so rad. Or the ethereal sound when you are near an important source of Lifeblood. Or the sound of dreams or the dream nail. Etc.I think what I miss in Silksong is audio cues such as this.
Grand Mother Silk was never trapped by the weavers.
>>720794326>but after hearing what makes Eva give upgrades I'll believe anything.explain
>>720799138When she talks about expanding your nature it's just how many memory lockets you've spent on your crests.
>>720799103Silksong has audio cures, they’re just more subtle. Like when you successfully use the act 3 movement ability in a correct location it triggers a different sound.
>open nexusmods>most of the mods are shit like removing double damage and removing spike damagelol. lmao
>>720799124Wouldn’t they be the only ones capable of trapping her, considering she’s in a dang cocoon of silk?
>>720799138all the conditionals in the game are weird
>>720799032what's a secondaryI just checked a video of the high halls gauntlet. none of the enemies there have the silk entanglement happen, they just appear from offscreen.
>>720799059Do you see any of the myrmidon's windmills? I didn't think so.
>>720792090Beating slab should have rewarded a martial arts crest, big dropped ball.
The last Architect and Conductor dying made me feel more sad than I expected.The last remnants of Pharlooms city and culture are gone, it's just memories of memories left. While it's a hellhole now it's clear that once upon a time Pharloom was a marvellous place and it's never coming back.
>>720799275>The background of Greymoor
>>720799256A secondary is someone whose primary form of engagement with a piece of media is consuming content about that media i.e. watching videos about a game rather than playing it themselves
>>720797932>The confessional machine that always tells you to work overtime to atone for the terrible sins you committed even if you don't say anythingI don't know how true it is since Silksong has been in development for a while but it does feel like Blasphemous influenced the plot quite a bit
>>720799345those are some of the good ones, it'd be racist to tilt at EVERY windmill
>>720799334Could not imagine being so retarded that you played through Underworks and came out thinking it was a bad thing that the Citadel is fucked
>>720799124if she's not trapped, why is widow preparing a 'gift for her waking'
>>720799417She was just a little sleepy.
>>720799409Don't think that's what I was getting at but go off faggot
>>720799409The Citadel wasn't always an industrial hellscape.
What counts towards 100%? I'm starting to burn out.
I didn't like Sherma losing innocence, she truly believed she was doing the right thing the whole time
>>720799347I played the game to 100% so no im not that. but there's so much lore shit in this game that for this, I like to find other people's ideas and theories. my understanding of everything is probably wrong somewhere and I wanted other perspectives on itteam cherry craft the lore to be just vague enough that everyone has to talk about it all the time to really understand
>>720799487She will get better and lead the pilgrims to prosperity in the ruins of Pharloom. It was necessary that she learned the harsh truth of the world.
>>720799487That's ok though, since Sherma never lost hope and learned to take things into his own hands instead of relying on blind faith.>she
>>720799387Really satisfying destroying that.
>>720799483masks, spools, tools, crests, weapon and tool upgrades, skills and silk hearts and main quest progression countmemory lockets, hunter's journal and mementos don't count
why are there 15 silksong threadsare horsies trying to get the threads banned
>>720799568>>720799576Are you telling me this cute girl was a cute shota all along? I bathed with him!
>>720799256niggerhttps://youtu.be/nWgAOLujsA0?t=3767excuse me grabbing a speedrun, but it was the most efficient way to find the scene exactly.>gauntlet preceded by GMS screeching and shooting some strands into the areathis also happens when lace taunts you upon entering the citadel's "vertical outside" rooms for the first time and for the vaults entry gauntlet.not to mention how all of the grand reeds are limped over and covered in cobwebs before you approach like they died in an upright positionthere's also the room outside the grand bellway, first thing there is two dead enemies that get overtaken by silk when you approach. i remember this very vividly because this was the start of my act 2 rosary farming route.
>>720799630Take a seat
>>720799662oh yeah, i should also note the SILK PARTICLE EFFECTS WHEN YOU HIT AN ENEMY
>>720799630It's true
>>720798568I pogged jumped + ran away from them (hunter's crest), basic hit and run tactic with occassionally being on the wall to avoid the ground light attack. I stopped acting brave and cleared it without using tools (because I didn't have shards to craft them lmao)
>>720799662the video I found didnt have that part. my bad
>>720799630You definitely awoke something in him that will make him feel funny things later down the line.
>>720799798yeah iirc its only a "first time" thing.
When does the skull tyrant invade bone bottom? I went to act 2 without seeing it
>>720799834would be at least 300x more kino without the cringe nose and mouth on the maskthis is AI slop isn't it
>>720799834whos that on the left
>>720799872>ai slopnop its not @sulka_art
>>720799854it invades if you sit on the bench, but for me I went into the bell beast room, heard a crash and went outside and it was there lol
>>720793558Wrong route
>>720799981>>720799981
>>720799957holy shit
>>720799995stop that. you're giving the jannies incentive to nuke us.
>>720799957you beat the game
>>720799957damn this world is so interconnected
>>720799662>>720799798ok so if GMS is already 'awake' why does widow say she's not yet?if GMS is awake and controls the citadel, why is she trying to stop you from reaching the top if that means she's the one who sent the goons to capture you?
>>720799957Efficient.
>>720800053Widow is an insane hermit.
>>720799957I bet with really efficient movement you could get to Bilewater before the timer ends.
>>720792085One of them is still upset the deltarune threads overshadowed and out lasted the switch 2 launch threads
>>720799957Just noticed the Bilehaven part is wrong, you can't go up like that, you gotta go through the Groal's arena
>>720800053widow's a retard that doesnt quite see whats happening.the reason why GMS tries to stop you is because she knows exactly what will happen if hornet gets up to her resting place while alive and free.hornet being dead is a better outcome than hornet binding and replacing her.
>>720800053She's a god, there's no reason she can't be influencing things in her near-waking sleepytimes. Not fully awake to actually take proper hold of things, but enough to be pulling the literal strings behind Pharloom
>>720799957im calling it, someone will make a HUGE speedrun competition with this
>>720800142You can after beating Groal and dropping down the ladder thing.
>>720800053>why is she trying to stop you from reaching the top if that means she's the one who sent the goons to capture you?Because you're trying to kill her retard.What the fuck are you doing? Did you just watch a few videos and decided to chime in? Are you fishing for lore dumps by people who paid attention to do a vaati?Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>720800205i'm actually retarded anon
>he didn't take the route of legends
>>720800138god that was funny>the one singular deltarune threads stays near the top of PPM >DKB threads fail to barely grace the front page
>>720799957ah damn I was too slow, posted this >>720800267 and then your's loaded... lmao your's better
>>720798423not even been captured to the slab. i can't do anything there it seems because everything is locked off via apostate key. only paths from citadel go to locked off sections of mount freya (which is frozen unexplorable hell) and the bellway.though someone here posted a map. i never went right from the caw pen/nest.and bilewater is being a fuck to explore.I also do not have double jump so no idea how i fucked that one up. been to sands of karak and coral tower. killed phantom. got witch crest. opened deeper worm ways past key door. freed green prince. only need maggot stew for the meal quest. fleas don't want to move on yet but i found a lot of them so far. need white ward ornate key. this game has a fuck ton of content it's fun and cool but frustrating when you get lost
>>720800320The hellrun on Mount Fay is mandatory once you have the movement ability that interacts with the rings.
just beat this game and now I will play it againtell me which crest to use this time
you know, when I first saw that the quest required like 5 different ingredients I was sure that it was a joke task or something
>>720799020pinstress has a badge? how to get?
>>720800415Might be Act 3 only. There'll be a wish in Bellhart from her and I'll leave you to figure it out from there.
>>720800415by beating the snot out of her
>>720797908Consider: Widow is an insane bitch
>>720800479wouldnt be surprised if widow drove the nails into herself as a sign of devotion to GMS>look mother silk! i crippled my own silk production and relied purely on your silk!>t-that means you wont kill me right?
>>720800360what is the 'hellrun' exactly then?is fay where double jump is?cause i really just want it to clean up regions.
>>720800580wouldn't that only anger GMS more? now she lost a source of silk to help lace no?
>>720800615Sorry, 'hellrun' is a metroidvania term for going through an area with damage-over-time without the protective equipment. Double jump and cold immunity is at the top, though you do need clawline to get there.
>>720800653yeah but in this case its established that she's fucking insane.
https://youtu.be/BfcxY5dL41Q?si=OMlVwqvEEKn-9ENs&t=574here, in lace's memory when you grab the silk heart after beating her second time, 'one to wish our waking'implying GMS isnt awake, yet. or the memory is from before she was awake. how do you create a daughter if you're not awake? is 'waking' not actually 'waking' and it's some other thing more akin to godly ascension of some kind? I dont know anymore. these fuckers put everything in such vague ass terms I have no clue. I'm lost theorizing shit based on nothing
>>720800672no i get what you mean by hellrun, just curious what it is exactly.I wasn't seeing a real path but it was hours ago and i ran back fairly fast figuring forge sister would craft something later on. especially after i found that bin of flintflame near the forebrothers.>clawline...wall cling? or something else?
>>720800672I was disappointed that cold immunity doesn't come into play outside of mount fay, and that mount fay doesn't have much to do in general. would be happy if someone proved me wrong on either of those
>>720800786Something else. Poke around the underworks.
>>720800793There's an act 3 subarea and some small sidequests that end up there but it and the Sands feel like fluffed up iterations on the same concept rather than being consolidated into something with more density.
>>720800785the first lace cutscene in this video, she's conducting for the same glowing butterflies that freed hornet from her cage. was she the one who did that?
>>720794826People really need to stop relying on the Abyss to solve their Higher Being problems
>>720800865Yes.
>>720793837>trying to slip beast byyeah nah, that shit is better than reaper, hunter, and probably architect
>>720800879It's free real estate.
>>720800879look man its a hungry and angry pit of funny black water.what else am i supposed to use it for?
>>720796879You dont know max comfiness anon. Trust me
>>720800815the harpoon move?? or again something else? if something else near the vault side or?
>>720801174Yeah, the harpoon. If you fire it at a ring you'll latch onto it.
also how the hell would you even learn about verdania naturally? not had a single character hint at it existing
>>720800879It's literally the snails that are doing it, I wouldn't exactly consider them people
>>720801242It's mentioned in Memorium, actually.
>>720801194i've had that for awhile. hell you need it to kill GMS due to cogworks etc.but guess i'm off to frozen hell land of shit tomorrow.
>>720801242The Memorium hints at it.
>>720801242There's a big suspicious chunk on that side of the map, that's how I found it by checking that spot over and over.
>>720801292>>720801282how
>>720801242It's mentioned in the Memorium but my ass thought it meant the coral area. I'm still mad we didn't get that place instead
>>720801274what did snails even do in HK? i can't recall.>>720801282well..not been there cause no double ump. but fair. not having it has made many things a great pain. karak was so fucking dogshit without it.
>>720800785I think it's clear GMS is conscious in some way, it's not a literal awakening
>>720801349>what did snails even do in HK? i can't recall.Taught you spells
>>720801242The green prince talks about all the time are you stupid?
>>720801313There's a bit of lore near the end which mentions its Verdania enclosure had failed.
>>720801335Verdant means green, and there was that one part of the Memorium with plants and corpses of creatures I'd never seen before, so I assumed that was the one they meant.
>>720801359>Acting like a God can't manipulate the mortal world during it's slumberThis is a very common trope, anon.
How is that parry skill? Seems really strong to me but I dont have it yet
>>720801274I was thinking of the Pale King trying to use the Abyss to make VesselsWhich failedI wonder if the Vessel plan failed because a Vessel would always be impure solely by existing, or if the Hollow Knight truly could have been a pure Vessel if things had gone right
>>720795496I've been chipping away through a KH2FM Critical level 1 playthrough and it's also been immensely fun, Square were really on their A-game back then in terms of super tight game design
>>720801468Well sure, but would you really call it "sleep" then, they're not sleeping like a mortal bug would
>>720801386Fucking when?I literally have not seen that cunt.At all.I freed him and he vanished into nothing.Killedthe cogwork dancers and like 8hrs later find him crying over his dead fag boitoy.He never mentioned verdania to me, minus a vague statement about his home caves ruined by silk. But never gave it a description or location.Hell i still cant find him again since the dancer talk.
>>720801537the plan was THIS close to working, but the one mistake pale king made was treating the pure vessel like a child and instilling the idea of "i love my dad!"
>>720801494It's really good simply because it adds another defensive option but the counter hit can whiff against a bunch of moves
If the main gate was closed how did Lace get down from the CitadelDrag her white ass through the sewers?
>>720801664>>720801537Been an age.But remind me.How the fucking shit did the vesssel/MC of HK escape the void and magically wind up on the polar arse end ofvthe kingdom?The void was sealed up behind a false wall or two. Plus a super uber locked door that had a seal on it. Right?So how did the vessel creep out of all that while not undoing any of the barriers?
>>720801609Yes, especially in a series like Hollow Knight where dreams have power.
>>720801804>So how did the vessel creep out of all that while not undoing any of the barriers?No idea, but the Knight wasn't even the first Vessel to do so since we get shown that Hornet regularly fucking kills any stragglers that pop up.
>>720793837nice shitpost, including the default moveset as something you can't use is funny
>>720801804Never explainedI always assumed it went "through" the Void and popped out somewhere else in the world, and the various dead siblings did similarlyThen after popping out they were drawn by their directive to return to Hallownest, which took longer for others. We see Ghost/Knight has a nail and clothes at the very beginning so it chose to acquire those before returning.
>>720801924>>720801974>TC has very autistic and deep lore/world building>no solid answer for the biggest question of the gameMost queer that.Though fair.
