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fleas!
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>>720799981
stop crosslinking the threads you fucking nigger moron, you're giving the jannies deletion fuel.
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>>720799981
Asking for art of Hornet fucking the huge flea
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>>720799981
What the fuck is the abomination of a fight that is Savage Beastfly II.
Why can he fly off screen so you don't know what height he's going to charge you at, why does he have 2 damage delayed lava bomb flying adds, why can he remove the ENTIRE floor?
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>>720800586
It’s not that bad. I did it pretty early with six health and triple pins without the broken shit.
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All this art reminded me I had a couple of Hornet pictures from this guy
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>>720800701
I did it with 6 health and poison tripwire + long pin and The winning fight took about 30 seconds of non stop momentum to kill him, but it just becomes complete unrecoverable shit if you take a hit when he's summoning 2 of the fliers.
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I saw the red memory recently. Pure fucking kino bros
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>>720800586
beastfly 2 is unironically easier than beast fly 1
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>>720800838
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Sure smells like fly in here
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I will never get tired of Hornet upskirts
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>>720799981
Fleas are parasites, spread diseases, and are not even fluffy. Grubs on the other hand are a benefit to the ecosystem through pollination once they metamorphose into beautiful butterflies.
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>>720800963
https://x.com/neophyte_r
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>>720800947
Beastfly 1 took me 2 tries and felt pretty damn easy.
Beastfly 2 took me 10 tries and felt like the hardest boss by far for the most awful reasons
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>>720801036
grubs dont turn into butterflies. caterpillars do.
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>>720801067
Sounds like a The You Problem
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>>720801083
Caterpillars are grubs, moron.
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>>720801101
I will not be shamed on the board that called cogwork dancers hard
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>>720801053
neat stuff, thanks
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>>720801067
You lucked out on 1, 2 is much easier. Adds don't block you, you have a ton of mobility and the arena is larger.
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>>720801153
>Board
>Some retard having an issue means everyone is having the issue
Stop trying to drag everyone down to your retard level
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>>720801119
no they arent
google it
they're different things.
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>I know your kind. Born of Weaver and Wyrm. You would seize my crown and rip my country from my claws
>you know of my kind. You know not of me. Weaver and Wyrm, I am. I wear both halves with pride. But I did not come to dominate you. Only to build a new home for my people after escaping from the shadow of a cursed land. If the place we chose for our settlement was your domain, then I seek fair payment or trade. But if you would have us bow, or bend, or break, then you are my enemy, and we've wasted words enough.
>what is a bug but a miserable pile of secrets? Enough talk! Have at thee!

Rate my Silksong fanfiction. It takes place after the events of the game with Hornet and some of her friends searching for a new land to build a home in because Pharloom is FUBAR. 60% of it will be graphic HornetXSherma sex scenes
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how did they fuck it up so bad
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Where'd all the snails go after you remembered stuff?
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>>720801206
Hey guess what, fuck you anyway, because the grubs are clearly caterpillars and I don't agree with this propaganda to make fleas into adorable creatures. Dumbfucks on the internet will believe that shit, encourage their reproduction and humanity will have to deal with another plague.

Fuck fleas and fuck you.
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>>720801314
they're dead anon.
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>>720801314
void
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>>720801314
the snails were void, they got obliterated by the flower.
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>>720801314
Sacrificed themselves to make the spell work.
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why are the citadel transports not marked on the fucking map
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>>720801578
BOOO SHKA DOOO sells icons for them
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>>720801234
It's ok, but I'm not really sold on-
>60% of it will be graphic HornetXSherma sex scenes
Actual masterpiece. 10/10 material.
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>>720801578
because you haven't bought their pins yet numbnuts
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>>720801529
Hornet should feel pretty bad for initially calling them cowards then. She can be a real bitch sometimes.
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>>720799981
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>>720801529
>void worshippers summon void
>sacrifice themselves to stop the void
i don't get it
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>>720801314
They got what they fucking deserved
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>>720801191
the adds shoot 2-damage projectiles that also set the ground on fire, and they can fly out to the side so you can't even hit them without tools
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>>720801678
Shamans are void worshippers now?
I thought they were soul mages.
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>>720801626
Eh, they're cultists that hide in the shadows and manipulate the mindless darkness that would consume the world in an instant if given the chance. They quite literally hid their nature from her and then hid away smugly as they waited for the world to die because they simply don't give a shit about anything as long as they managed to kill god.
>>720801678
They summoned the void to kill god, and were willing to sacrifice themselves not to stop the void, but to finish off the god they were trying to kill. Also they wanted to see if it could even be done. They clearly don't value their lives very highly, which is probably a necessity for someone dealing with the void like that.

Snails are not to be trusted.
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>>720801678
They're old and they don't really give a fuck. They just like seeing cool shit. Like big ass void voring a sexy milf god and said void getting obliterated by a fucking flower.
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>>720801606
>>720801612
oh ok my b
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>>720801719
Your magma shield bro? They also die from silkstorm, which you probably didn't have in 1, hen you were stuck with that lance.
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How do I get into the coral zone (which I learned about from the bestiary place)? Here? Wall doesn't seem to lead anywhere
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>>720801898
That's an exit, entrance is way more to the left
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>>720801312
wdym? its perfect
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hornet got slabbed
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>>720801898
There's an entrance rom the Pintress's house who tought you charge attack on the west side of blasted step (right next to where you fought the twin giant conch flies)
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>>720801869
>Your magma shield bro?
I tried it and then I fell in lava and still got two masks of damage so I immediately removed it again
>they also die from silkstorm
damn, I was trying the dash-through-enemy ability but that one didn't one-shot them sadly, I did go back to silkstorm not long after that fight
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>>720801898
That's the exit, the entrace is way to the left, you know where the Pin master is? its that same path but higher, I think it requires harpoon to do iirc
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>>720801976
I find it funny that the flies literally didn't care about Hornet because they'd rather fuck their own mom or something
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>>720802031
>I fell in lava and still got two masks of damage
It has a cooldown.
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>>720802031
The shield reduces any fire damage, but it has a cooldown. As for the skill, I generally dislike one hit skills. They do comparable damage, but if you miss, that's it, but with silkstorm you still may get a few hits.
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>>720802108
Which is bullshit by the way, if you're gonna take away my precious blue slot, then that shit better be permanent. Fuck everything that uses fire in this game. And the maggots.
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Why Mother Silk is so hot?
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>>720801934
>>720802040
>>720801996
Found it, cheers
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>>720801869
None of the adds in beastfly 1 have projectiles and are all pretty damn slow and non-aggressive so they're very easy to avoid and farm silk from.
The smaller arena and slow low damage enemies lets you keep your eyes on beastfly the entire time.
You don't need silkstorm in beastfly 1 as the adds he summons are so slow they easily get crushed by him, which isn't the case with 2's adds.
Specific hard counter charms tend to be an indicator of shitty design in general.
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>>720802108
>>720802194
ohhh that makes sense, yeah I had probably hit a magma turd and I fell in the lava right after, anyway I replaced the bell with the poison thing lol no regrets
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>>720802258
Massive dumptruck. I still like the Radiance more though.
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>>720802085
Yeah it always bugged me too
It could be related to how the Pale King just disappeared with no trace, but that's unlikely
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>>720802336
>I replaced the bell with the poison thing lol
Absolutely fair.
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>>720801537
>I wonder if the Vessel plan failed because a Vessel would always be impure solely by existing, or if the Hollow Knight truly could have been a pure Vessel if things had gone right
The Pale King thought a vessel can be pure but it's clear by the end of the game that he never fully understood the Void or how it worked, or what makes the difference between a pure or impure vessel. He thought void was basically just the absence of everything and if a living being was imbued with void it would just turn into a soulless automaton. The PK underestimated it or it could've just been a whole lot of wishful thinking on his part, because he was desperate to believe it due to there being no other way to save his kingdom.

In reality the void itself has some degree of sentience to it. It can change itself, has capacity for malice and vengeance. It can also be protective, as seen from how Ghost treats Hornet. And that's just the void itself. If you combine the void with real sentient bugs (this is how you get Vessels) it'll definitely create something capable of having a will, a mind.

If the vessels were ever 'pure' to begin with (I don't think so) they lose that purity as soon as they experience anything in life that elicits a reaction in them. For the Hollow Knight, supposedly the purest Vessel of them all, all it took to render it impure was just the faintest notion of having a connection with another bug.

Maybe I could see a Vessel being pure if it's basically kept in total isolation from the start of its life, depriving it of all sensory experience and thus preventing it from ever developing opinions or impressions of anything. But no Vessel was treated like that. The Hollow Knight wasn't pure, Ghost had a mind and a will and a soft spot for Hornet, the Broken Vessel wasn't pure. Don't think we know of any vessel in the canon who is truly pure.
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>>720801946
>doesn't stop enemy attacks so it can whiff because the enemy's attack moves them out of the hit zone
>doesn't stop enemy attacks so it can put you in positions where you get hit by a later part of the enemy's attack or just spits you out into their hitbox
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>>720801804
Sealing a huge ass void is kinda hard. Nosk had a few vessel bodies in the Deepnest, for example, it's not unreasonable to think that there may have been more exits.
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>>720802375
>spoiler
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well
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>>720802415
I think the Pale King WAS right about the Void, but it was the fact that the Vessels were still borne from him and the Pale Lady that allowed them to think and feel.
Ghost treats Hornet like a sibling because Ghost isn't fully Void.
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>mfw shaman crest with 3 silk hearts + weavelight and the electricity charm
I have to admit infinite homing electrified swords does sound busted but given how late you get everything you need to make it work I think it's balanced
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>>720802602
Electricity charm?
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>>720802602
It keeps missing against fast enemies, like you know, the final boss.
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>>720800586
I kept getting juggled and killed whenever he'd spawn two adds at the same time so I cheesed the fight by running out of the arena to the left where beastfly doesn't follow but the adds do, killing them there, then running back
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>>720801715
Name one thing they did wrong.
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>>720802069
don't they go through the effort of making her a gimp suit?
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>>720802789
No, anon. That was fan art.
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Wow they ruined Lace with Lost Lace. The first two fights were pure melee vs melee kino, Lost Lace is le ebin kite the mage fight.
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>>720802335
Fat guys home in on you deal 2 damage, and their aoe is huge. The small flies may also zone you. Only crawlers are reasonable for a third boss in the game. As for the charms, I get what you mean, but use your frontal cortex (didn't beat the game). The boss is in the lava and his adds spew lava pools.
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>>720802819
ah, I never actually encountered that so I was confused
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>>720802835
>Lost Lace is le ebin kite the mage fight.
I get where this is coming from, but I genuinely felt like the Lace fights were too easy and didn't really make her feel like a proper rival. Lost Lace was an excellent fight imo and more or less made up for the earlier disappointment.
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>>720802789
They strip her naked and play around with her stuff
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>>720802439
It literally makes you invulnarable, you shitter. It's op as hell.
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>>720802995
The fight is boring as shit and all it does is incentivize toolspam.
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>>720803039
That I did see, meant the stitched together gimp suit someone drew in the same art style as the game
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>>720803079
git gud architech shitter
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>>720803079
I thought it was fun, and I didn't have to resort to spamming tools.
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>>720803072
yes it makes you invulnerable until it ends and you're clipping inside some lingering hitbox
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>>720803168
Don't even have it but I can clearly see how much less boring doing the obligatory playing keep away vs her would be with it
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>>720802629
coral land item in act 3
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>>720803181
It has enough lingering I-frames after the parry is done to literally just walk away.
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Lost Lace felt like the kino opening to an even bigger better fight against a god or void itself.
But there isn't one, it just ends and you go home. HK had you dive into the final bosses dreams to slay god.
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>dying to sandworms (or any hazard?) puts you at the closest platform to your death rather than the one you started at
WTF
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Seth was a pretty fun fight disregarding the fact that I had to start over like 3 times after he teleported inside a wall
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>>720803486
I found him pretty hard, despite him only having like 3 moves
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i just downloaded the update
did i brick my game
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>>720803521
It was one of those fights where I had to stop bad habits to beat him.
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>>720803486
The trick with Seth is realising the 'arena' isn't the room itself but the space between where he throws his shield to your left and right. Viewing your space as being that limited with you meant to doge his attacks then strike was the epiphany I needed to beat him first try after I stayed playing by that rule after dying by the start of the second phase.
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>high halls rush
holy mother of kino
i was getting disappointed the other 2 song things didnt have bosses but that made up for it
>go in
>'oh another trash rush'
>hey this is kinda long
>is that TWO of the summoner guys?
>is that a NEW big nigger enemy?
>IS THAT TWO OF THEM?
it might has well have been a boss, it was more fun than every boss up to this point
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I love Hornet.
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>>720803858
She's the best.
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I love seeing the tiny ants carry the corpses of your enemies away
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>>720803563
please respond
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lmfao
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>>720804025
which enemy is this?
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>>720803792
All it was missing was a part where the floor turns into spikes and 5 of those thrower assholes that dash away from you pop out
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>>720804067
Little hoppy flappy fuckers in the Vaults
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>>720803858
I can't like her until I see her real face. Just like makeup, I'd prefer to see the woman under it.
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>>720802415
I think it’s funny that the pale king wanted a mindless child, but he himself as a pale being radiated sapience and still let the hollow knight be near him. Oops.
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I finally beat that cunt in Bile Water. I feel so good right now. Took me like 2 hours
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>>720804118
Fucking faggots
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>>720801234
>Not HornetxLace
Gay.
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>>720804181
Lace can watch
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>fighting disgraced chef
>he just left the fight in some point
>it happened two times

team cherry instead of nerfing should fix this fucking bug
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>>720803792
The best part is that you can it with your pals Garmond and Zaza.
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>>720804137
>her real face.
Anon. That is her real face.
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>>720804216
Lace WILL watch
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>>720804169
Yeah, that area is rough as fuck. When fighting a boss a generally decide if I want to play it straight or if I want to cheese it with weapons. Bike water sucked so hard that he’s the only boss in the game so far that I decided to melt with boomerangs. He lasted for maybe 30 seconds. Fuck that guy and that zone. I don’t even know his moves.
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>>720804258
A Mask is a Mask even if they make a new Mask later when Growth has happened
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I think I'm finally almost done after 50 hours? not a completionist run yet but I have all masks upgrades, deliveries and wishes done (I think).
I'm missing a few tools and materials though.
I'm at the lost lace fight, and died at the third stage, not sure if there is more after that.

It has been an ultra fun game, and might be my favorite metroidvania. the early game was mighty difficult (pre splinter and moorwing nerf) and some of the runbacks were brutal like bilewater. the progression is really well done, it's not just the upgrades but you really feel like you as a player is getting good and the latter bosses, gauntlets and platforming felt quite easy compared to act 1, and the game makes you feel like it's just as much because of the player skill, in addition to your in game power ups.

I love the tool and crest system, everything is viable and you can really express your preferred play style. The only gripe I have is that the poison tool + bug tool is overpowered and can let you cheese bosses by just focusing on dodging, instead of punishing small windows of vulnerability. the most fun I had was when I played the bosses "ethically" without the poison bug tool as a crutch.
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What is your favorite
>crest
>red tool
>blue tool
>yellow tool
>silk skill
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>>720804332
To be fait the boss itself is actually really easy. I'd genuinely say if he were on his own he'd be the easiest boss of act 2 but because he's waiting behind a CBT gauntlet and one of the, if not the worst run up in the game you cant really relax and learn his moves easily.
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>>720801678
>snailman, pls help me kill god
>>ok
>snailmen, god is gonna kill everyone I need to kill it again
>>ok
Makes sense to me.
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>>720804237
I only found these 2 before the moorwing boss fight (they didn't join for some reason) and they joined in one random trash fight in choral chambers and haven't met them again...
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>>720804360
Did they also make masks for every single Vessel straight out the egg? Admit it anon, the Pale King's children just look like that.
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>>720804509
Mask Makers are very busy people
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>>720804509
Maybe pale beings look like that and normal bugs wear masks to imitate pale beings.
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>>720804430
>Wanderer
>Flea piss
>Warding bell
>Dice
>Sharpdart
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>>720804437
All I remember of his moveset is him eating me and dying. I was very pissed for a millisecond.
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>>720800243
FUCKABLE OBSIDIAN QUEEN DETECTED
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I know this game has quite a few barebones zones, but the worst has to be wormways right? I mean, it’s just worms and a guy. Even the wisp place is at least weird.
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>Get all fleas
>Complete every mission board task
>finish act 3
>83%
Where's the last 17% of the game hiding?
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>>720804603
This... actually makes a lot of sense
Pale beings or gods uplift bugs to being Higher Life Forms, then they take on Masks to more solidly form their minds to the tasks they do
Mask Makers must be a symbiotic life form to Pale beings, in service they make masks to help the uplifting process, and maybe they get power and lifespan out of it?
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>>720804727
Go back during act 3.
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>>720802415
Knight's purity depends on the player's action I think. He's a very player defined character.
If you just do the basic minimum to get the HK ending, never do side quests or anything of the sort, it can be argued a Knight like that is truly pure. He does the bare minimum to get the job done and gives no fucks about anything but his prime directive to contain Radiance.
Meanwhile a Knight that goes around helping, that shows curiosity and will to uncover the truth of Hallownest, that ends up being a Knight that isn't pure. But then again that Knight does stick to just containment, he outright kills the moth.
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>>720804746
I did. it’s cool, but it’s still an entire zone that’s just one thing. It needs to have at least something more going on
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Anyone know how much missable content there is in act 1?
I already know I missed a boss fight in bone bottom. Also theres a mist area I didn't go to.
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>>720804509
I remember the Mask Maker from HK saying something to the effect that not everyone has a face, so he makes masks for the faceless (like the Midwife who still has a "feral" head).
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>>720804815
You can still go to the mist area.
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>>720804603
This is a really neat idea.
>>720804819
This is true, but that also implies that there are those that DO have faces and don't need masks to obtain a higher sense of self.
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>>720804736
tools, masks, spools
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>>720804430
>Three-way tie between Reaper, Witch, and Alchemist
>Voltvessel (forma de bolas)
>Longclaw (Reaper), Injector Band (Witch), Quick Sling (Architect)
>Magnetite Brooch
>Thread Storm
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>>720804430
>shaman
>tacks
>long claw
>anklets
>rune rage
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>>720804815
I don't think there's anything missable if you're in act 2, except few optional dialogues and quest outcomes Pilby... it's act 3 where the big changes happens.
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>>720804815
Act 1? Nothing really other than perhaps some dialogue that skips to your current main quest progression.
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>>720804509
She literally mentions it's a mask while talking to the mask maker
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conch 2.0 was fooking cancer. Cool area though
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>>720804430
>crest
Reaper (architect close second)
>red tool
Curveclaw or the throwing ring
>blue tool
Sawtooth circlet
>yellow tool
Scuttlebrace
>silk skill
Pale nails
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>Team Cherry design the most player-hostile, deliberately annoying, cancer zone in the game, Bilewater, and theme it around bile, filth, disgust, hatred

>this is its musical theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hM_Hp37By0

kek what the fuck is their problem?
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>>720805168
There used to be beauty in these lands until the Citadel shit all over it.
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dont open if you dont want to get sad
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>>720805168
I guess they couldn’t thematically justify hitting trash cans with sticks as a soundtrack for an area.
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>>720804228
They did fix it in the patch, the mentioned they did, but it still happens lol
It's unfixable
Muckbuggies cannot be contained
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>>720805227
I want to know how the fuck there were smart bugs in the area without a Pale being present.
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I'm surprised Architect isn't a much liked Crest. I like this and I especially like that the pogo can be charged
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>>720805012
I am still under the assumption that to a bug with an exoskeleton, the mask and the face are one in the same. What matters is if their mask is part of them, or if it was built and donned, and I will stick by this until we're given more definitive proof otherwise.
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>>720805390
The Big Drill attack is great and I love it, but I have real difficulty fighting bosses with it
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Before I found out the green prince was gay I thought they were setting him up as a love interest.
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>>720805390
Normies just can't deal with angled pogos. They just can't.
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>>720805168
They like to do a little bit of trolling
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>>720805390
>0 silk arts slots
Now I see why people dislike it
>>720805468
that and this, yeah
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>>720799981
AWOOO!
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>>720805308
This is so accurate it hurts
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>>720805390
>throws cogflys
>throws sawblades
>throws racks
And then everything dies, the end.
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>>720805390
I will now use your crest.
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>>720805231
Fuck Team Cherry for not letting me adopt Zaza and care for him.
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>>720805231
Not cool
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>>720805440
I love the charged drill but I have a really hard time maintaining a charge while navigating a fight properly.
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>>720805468
Angled pogo is unnatural.
If it's angled it should be triggered by a diagonal input, not down.
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I die to flying enemies' contact damage way more than their attacks
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>>720805442
Hornet hates fags
>>720805552
Zaza will remain by Garmond's side until he's done with his nap and is ready to continue their adventures
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>>720805168
Unironically commentary on the destruction of nature by industry.
>Citadel builds it's waste ducts right above the pristine Bilewater
>turns it into a rancid, filthy encrusted place
>puts the tragic son of the monarch that's dying and wasting away in charge of managing the entire fucking operation
>gives you two areas if you go east enough where you can appreciate just how utterly everything got completely fucked
Once it was pointed out to me I gained a new appreciation for Bilewater. The theme is somber because you're witnessing an utter tragedy. You're Treebeard witnessing the destruction of the woods by Isengard, or the hobbits seeing the scouring of the Shire upon their return.
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>>720805227
>Hornet in fanart.jpg
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>>720805123
I disagree, I thought it was a very fun fight.
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>>720805624
I interpreted it backwards I think
I thought the ducts were once "aquaducts" that brought in water from the lake to the east and that as the water got used up it was poured into what became bilewater. I guess it makes more sense your way, but then the question is where did they get the water from to begin with? Mount fay?
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>>720805594
It might be more worth while with the Pinstress charm to reduce charge time but I've not tried it
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>>720805332
I'm pretty sure people misunderstood the exact effect the pale beings have on bugs, or it got retconned.
Because by this point it's very obvious bugs don't need pale beings to ascend from beasts. There were entire kingdoms in Pharloom that didn't depend on Silk for their sentience.
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>>720805468
Hunter I can't, but I find the charged architect pogo to be infinitely easier.

For me personally, the distance travelled with the air charge is probably what I intuitively expect with the hunter pogo, which is why I think it's easy to fuck up.
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>>720805729
I think he got it pretty spot on, but there's also the possibility that they drew water out of the Blasted Steps and coral caves and turned them into a desert.
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>>720805618
Flying enemies in this game are just trash. EVERY flying enemy has the same shitty hit-and-run tactic flying just out of reach, and many have projectiles on top.
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>>720804137
Hornet having long pale hair hidden inside her mask would be hot.
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>>720805769
You see, I’d say you are right but when you go to the surface, outside the reach of Pharloom, there are bugs that look similar to generic NPC bugs, but they behave like real bugs.
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what is the point of a gauntlet before a fight than just to waste your time
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>>720805231
I need a mod that relocates Zaza to Bellhome. Little guy doesn't deserve to starve to death waiting for a dead man to wake up. Who do I ask for commissions?
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>>720805769
I think the pale beings are essentially a shortcut to sentience. Bugs can naturally grow into it and build kingdoms, but being in the presence of a pale being makes the bugs start at the same place it may have taken decades or centuries for others to reach
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>>720805308
lel, so true
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>>720805729
It could have been both. Bring in water from the eastern lake and dispose of waste.
I don't remember exactly where I read the lines but I think it was Shakra that points out the reason Bilewater's in the state it is is due to the waste produced by the Citadel above.
It also explains why the Bilewater residents fucking hate the Citadel so much they string up pilgrims that dare enter.
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>>720805891
Test your focus.
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>>720805468
>another angled downward attack
fuck. I was planning on using that. oh well, into the garbage it goes next to hunter and beast. maybe witch will be the one to finally replace wanderer.
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>>720805891
to consume traps you've set
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>>720804169
My favorite boss? Groal.
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>>720805769
mantis tribe, the hive and the shroom hivemind were counterexamples present in the first game
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>>720805891
Challenge you, look cool, and potentially drain your resources.
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>>720805919
Not the pilgrims fault.
Bileniggers get the cogflyrapebots.
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>>720805729
the aquaducts ARE aquaducts and worked just fine in the past.
They pumped so much refuse in from the underworks and vaults vents that it bubbled over and got in the clean water.
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>>720805965
This is almost exactly what I did.
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>>720805965
>popping all of your cogflies like a sperg
>no bombs
>almost fucking died
Poor form desu
You didn't cheese the game right
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>>720805970
Do we know for sure those pre-date the Pale King though? They didn't worship or were part of Hallownest but that doesn't mean their sentience wasn't due to his presence.
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>>720805931
Witch has a great moveset, but the heal will filter you.
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Maybe pale beings just give you the “mare machines” type of intelligence while most bugs are just tribal.
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>>720806015
Right, so it wasn't the Ducts that tainted the water it was the Underworks. And then it ended up tainting the Ducts above.
Still, the point is Bilewater's music is tragic and somber because the area is a goddamn tragedy. fuck the boss run up though, goddamn fucking run up
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>>720806074
I wanted to like witch but you are right, not having a proper bind filtered me. I sincerely hope for a dlc that gives a ng+ with all crests unlocked so I could play the entire game with witch
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>>720804137
HOT
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>>720805965
>not bombing those dodongos
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>>720805819
Yeah my instincts tell me it should travel farther, if not infinitely until it hits something or is cancelled. Other than that I actually think diagonal pogos are fun
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>>720805891
that's part of the balance of the fight
so is the runback
the most difficult "fights" don't have a gauntlet or a draining runback
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>>720806138
Yeah either way, bilewater got aids'ed by the citadel like the green prince's butthole did.
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>>720806061
I only remember the mantis tribe having confirmation
they made a pact with the pale king for non-intervention
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>>720806053
I tried going with bombs once, they didn't kill him. And what's wrong with popping all cogflies at once?
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>>720806204
I'm fighting the ant bitch right now. the gauntlet adds nothing. the two big dudes aren't really a challenge.
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achtt too wholesome… the beads were worth it…
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>>720805769
Pale King is described as a different kind of light to radiance.
It's less that he gave them sentience and more that he gave them free will.
There was no free thought under the radiance but there was also total unity.
Compare this with the Pale Kings rules where bugs were free to do and think as they wanted and while for the individual that's pretty cool it also led to stuff like the Soul Sanctum taking their research into fucked up directions directly against the kings wishes while he was busy trying to stop the Radiance infection the first time.
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Dunno which of you recommended Rabi Ribi to play after Silksong but its actually really good, im beyond surprised
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>used all my lockets on Hunter and Wanderer early on
>no motivation to use the other crests with their limited charm slots
Can't they make it so you can switch slots between crests? There can be a cost or a specific place to do it so you can't do it willy nilly.

Now I probably won't use the other crests until way into the lategame if I can't find more lockets.
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>>720806257
You can only have 4 active at a time, so you wasted the others. It didnt matter in the end, but it's still bad form
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>>720806290
If you explore thoroughly you’ll find plenty of lockets.
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>>720806053
Bombs don't even do all that much damage for how few of them you get. Concutter or boomerang are far better choices when tacks aren't an option.
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>>720806259
then you passed the requisite skill floor needed if they are nothing to you. it's arguable that those guards are not really necessary, I agree. That fight is one of the weaker arguments for a gauntlet before the boss.
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>>720806354
It's not about the damage, it's about the "fuck you" factor
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>>720806331
Oh shit, really. Haven't used them before this fight.
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>>720806370
I'm arguing that they don't value the player's time.
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Yeah hi how the fuck do you find your way around the mist?
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>>720806281
I thought only the moths worshipped Radiance before.
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>>720806420
sing to the fireflies
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I beat nyleth earlier today
Took a few tries but I basically facetanked her with wanderer and flintblade. Felt like a rape desu. Not really fair. But hey, a heart is a heart and I need to save Pharloom
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>>720806436
Moths were the only survivors of the ideological/meme purge to remove Radiance from the physical world.
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>>720806508
Cog core.
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>>720806508
You have to exit east fromn the cog core
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>>720804137
Imagine hornet with long, luscious bed hair.
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>>720806412
Anything a player doesn't find fun will not be worth a player's time. I agree that that fight's gauntlet is bad and does waste player time because the gauntlet isn't enough of a threat or a challenge, and 99% of the challenge is the actual boss.

That doesn't apply to other fights though, such as Bilewater.
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I'll do this fight properly when they release Godhome.
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>>720806412
Nigger you're playing a video game how the fuck are YOU valueing your time
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>>720806576
Lol as if you would be capable
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Not like this...
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>>720806556
That bottom right one with the silk falling over her face is pretty lewd.
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>>720806532
>>720806545
Okay I'm retarded I just hadn't tried from the left before
Thanks though
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>>720806576
I still can't see the tell for the attack. Literally impossible.
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What does Silksong improve over Hollow Knight?
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>>720806705
combat
build expression
movement
side quests
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>>720806705
Everything
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>>720804137
You literally see her face in the normal ending and its a giant U shape, its exactly like the mask, not a little head underneath.
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>>720806752
>side quests
lmfao
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>>720806705
Movement and combat feel nicer, and I like Hornet being able to talk and contribute to the story in a way that the Knight couldn't. It's still got it's problems, but they're few and far between, and it's a wonderful game nonetheless.
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>>720806798
care to expound?
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>>720806705
tracking side quests
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>>720801678
They never intended Act 3's bullshit, they wanted to seal the GMS away and Lace ruined everything

>>720801763
What do you think soul is anon? I'm half joking but the void worshippers in HK also did soul stuff iirc so the link seems to be there
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>>720806827
bring me 3 mossberries and then we'll talk
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>>720806834
That's a good fucking example.
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Couriers bacon is making me scream
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>>720806705
Colored tools are an improvement. Not the actual implementation, but the idea is solid. Gadgets are a decent combat addition. Supporting characters are also better. That's probably about it.
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>Looking down at your experiment only to see your son and you love him
>and he loves you
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>>720806942
How did he fuck a tree exactly?
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>>720806970
wid he willy
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>>720806970
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how would you change the tool system?
I'd reduce the uses and make replenishing free.
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>>720807023
I wouldn't.
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>>720807023
remove it entirely
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>>720806970
drill penis
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>>720807023
Make its own separate bar that needs to be filled to get use, like the silk bar but it doesn't heal you. And it also goes to zero when a boss fight starts.
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>>720807023
Pretty much that yeah. Not all of them need to have the usages reduced. Or at all. I'm not sure reducing the number of usages is required. I mean ultimately limitations are the same.
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I'm so confused reading around now that I'm done with the game.
Was Last Judge considered hard? The runback was annoying but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the boss itself. It took me some runs because I was not really looking at what the boss was doing, but when I started to stop and slow down I finally understood, and with that mindset, I downed it after a couple of tries.

I've seen so many people say that the boss was so hard that it made them stop and put the controller down and rage about it.
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Genuinely how the fuck are you supposed to deliver this fucking meat in time?
Not even talking about getting hit, there is just not enough time to deliver this piece of shit.
ALSO WHY THE FUCK DOES SPRINTING INTO WALLS DAMAGE THE DELIVERY AHHHHHHHH
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>>720807117
It really pissed me off. But I was rushing too much. The stupid runback with that fly in the beginning tilted me every time. I hate all the flying enemies.
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>>720804430
>Hunter
>Don't use em'
>Claw Mirror
>Compass
>Silkspear
Yeah, I beat the game.
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>>720807215
Its very possible, if you do it with double jump its even easier
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I thought about godhome in Silksong and it seems like it wont work
>need shards to use tools
>nowhere to farm inside godhome itself
>bosses will never be balanced around tool spam properly
it will be a mess
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>>720807023
Make it a different button press every time I tried to use tools I would move out of position or misfire a silk skill
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>>720804430
Wanderer
Volt Vessle
Fractured Mask, Multi Binder, Injector Pin :)
Compass
Thread Storm
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>>720807117
the only thing I had problem with LJ was that I'd lose 2 masks from contact damage from a stupid backdash it did. Imagine dodging all attacks only to get behind her to smack her a couple of times only for her to do a backdash the moment you touch the ground.
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>>720807314
godhome had you fight multiple gods between benches, so you can't reset tools between those
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>>720807215
Kill everything on the route and dont rest at a bench so there's no enemies
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>>720804430
>Wanderer
>Threefold pin (seriously underrated)
>Longclaw
>Injector band
>Thread storm
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>>720807215
wait until you get the double jump. and/or go through the mist if you're really chafing at this route. getiing hit is also absolutely worse than running down the clock, knocking 1-2 sections off of it.
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>>720807215

I did it but I went through the Citadel Spa since I felt it's the safer route. I also used the silkspeed bracers. Still took me a few tries.
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>>720807314
Just make Godhome let you remake weapons for free at benches there, but only there
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>>720807215
Equip the movement speed item, clear every enemy on the path without sitting on the bench, learn the scales puzzle
Even without the hooks hot you can barely manage it. With the hookshot I managed it to deliver the meat with almost two health bars
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I don't understand why the snail family is helping hornet after they got they wanted.
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>>720807314
You don't consume shards in dreams and Godhome was already a dream.

They could easily add some mechanic to replenish tools somehow if they wanted, but it's not really necessary. And Architect can already do it.
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>>720807482
They didn't though. They wanted Silk dead, but she wasn't, she was barely hanging on in the void.
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This game is driving me to the brink of insanity.
Having to fight bosses who can hit trade with you with ease or are jumping puzzles and flea juggling
It drives me up a fucking wall and yes I'm having fun
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my wrist hurts
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>>720806942
>the power of love damned the kingdom
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>>720807486
As an Architect enjoyer I'd be happy with a part of the game where the other crests can shine more anyway.
Nuking bosses down with tools kind of defeats the point of remixed challenge areas. I'd try out Witch or something.
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>>720807562
I bet they fuck
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>>720807593
women can't have sex with each other
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>>720807615
They're magic bugs they'll find a way
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>>720807593
Hornet pledge to be a virgin forever after realising she'd always outlive her partners, haven't you read the lore?
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>>720804430
>Crest
Hunter's. I like the whole "don't get hit" thing with the evolved form. I still sometimes mess up pogging but if it's a hard platforming section I switch to reaper. And if the widows are just that short I switch to Wanderer's but so far the only time I've absolutely needed to was the High Halls trial.
>red tool
ANCIENT PHARLOOMIAN WEAVER BEAMS
>blue tool
I mean there's so much utility in blue but I guess the hook. It makes the grapple attack stronger.
>yellow tool
Clinging tool. God I love not sliding down walls so much.
>silk skill
GET PARRIED! GET PARRIED! GET PARRIED!
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>>720807404
Can you use the elevator in Exhaust Organ while delivering? Is it only Bellway and Ventrica that break it?
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>>720806942
I think the Vessels were never truly hollow enough for the Pale King's plan to work, but this was the moment he realized that for himself, as well as that it was far too late to go back.
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>>720805624
>>720805168
Fuck I just realized Verdania should totally have been the past-version of Bilewater instead of shunted off to the side. Is there a reason that wouldn't make sense?

>>720807023
1.Make almost ever yellow tool a straight upgrade with no cost, it was retarded in HK that I had to choose between combat charms and the compass, and its retarded here that I have to choose between the compass and the magnet, it adds nothing
2. Let me have more blue charms on everything and make em' stronger. Like Hollow Knight basically
3. Uncap shards, reduce cost a little bit, nerf the strongest stuff so I don't have to be thinking about not accidentally breaking the game.
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>>720807651
So why does err the weaver just make guns like literally guns what's the point of that?.
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>>720801067
for me it was the other way
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>>720807482
Snails didn't want shit to get blown the fuck up. They're not villains wanting the void to kill everything, they just worship the void.
The entire thing happened because of Lace regardless. They completely did not account for that variable because why the fuck would they.
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>>720807117
nah thinking back it wasn't that hard. Everything about the moveset is fair, maybe some attacks will catch you off guard the first time. The runback is easy enough if you practiced it.

>>720807215
I did it on my first (serious) try, but it was basically after unlocking every movement upgrade. Just go through the route to the Gourmand once clearing all the enemies (except the pond skaters, those respawn but are basically a non-issue), then go back the same way to Bellhart to double confirm no enemies/which ledges to jump on and accept the quest.
Don't spam run, just dash and be mindful of ledges and don't take damage. I didn't even use the Silkspeed Anklets and wasted some time entering 2 wrong rooms and I still had about 2 bars worth of timer left.
Crest shouldn't matter much but I used Reaper since the pogo is easier.
Also in case it wasn't obvious, do all of the above without resting at a bench since the enemies respawn.
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>>720807765
Literally everything is Lace's fault. Damn brat needs correction
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>>720807731
I think Verdania just being completely devoid of life fits better, though then again "Verdania" in the real world is just a fucking cave.
>>720807747
Anon, the question isn't why do it, then question is why NOT turn your silk into laser beams.
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>>720804237
It would have been cool if they let you have both quixote and shakra help you if you fulfill the conditions instead of one or the other
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>>720804430
>crest
hunter. diagonal pogo is amazing if you learn it instead of reeing out and switching to wanderer
>red tool
cogflies. id use them if they were the worst dps in the game. i just like summons
>blue tool
lots of options but maybe weavelight because the effective cooldown on grapple pisses me the fuck off
>yellow tool
anklets
>silk skill
parry
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>>720807023
Late game enemies need to drop more shards. You shouldn't have to farm rosaries to buy bundles if you want shards.
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>>720807812
Reminder Hornet strings Lace up by her silk every night and corrects her sexually.
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When I enter the flow state, no man can defeat me.
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>>720799981
now tha tI reached act 3 this is not so comfy anymore
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It's so weird seeing other places like metroidvania have a meltdown regarding SS when me, someone who has just played a few out it think it was hard, but not THAT hard. The only one where I really went "fuck this place/fight" was Bilewater and the High Halls Gauntlet.
Regarding bosses, I didn't feel any of them were unfair.
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>>720804430
Witch
Shakra's ring
Claw Mirrors
Anklets
Parry
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>>720807765
>The entire thing happened because of Lace regardless.
Wouldn't it have been worse if Lace didn't save Hornet and Silk took her?
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>>720807908
There are no men in the game, only bugs.
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>>720807928
Only part that had me fucked up was the Rasher quest.
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>>720807117
I'm not very good at the game and it felt very fair. The runback wasn't hard but that one Driznit along the way is a complete piece of shit that easily adds 15-20s to the runback. That shit was not okay.
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>>720807967
>final DLC boss is a giant boot stomping on you from the top of the screen
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>>720808024
crazy how i could solo the entirety of pharloom and hallownest
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>>720807215
Platinuming death stranding prepared me for this shit

Clear the path from enemies beforehand, use speed boosts like fleabrew and anklets
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>>720807970
Ehhh, that one was easy for me. Maybe just because I opened up tons of places before I did that so my route was okay. I did it without even the double jump skill it was fine.
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Why the fuck do people want DLC? The game is done. Its finished.
Its literally a DLC on its own in the first place.
The game took 7 years to come out because they wanted to jam in literally everything they could think of, and they did.

What else would you want?
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>>720807961
Honestly? No. Worst case scenario is that Silk lets herself die and takes Hornet down with her, and Pharloom is free and almost entirely intact because the corrupted silk never appears, and the best case scenario is exactly the same EXCEPT the Knight shows up to save Hornet at the last second.
Sure it's likely that Hornet dies in this ending, but the consequences on the rest of the kingdom are far less horrible than when Lace intervenes.
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the mask maker keeps telling me i have a mask on, well i can't take it off pal
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>>720808121
More bosses
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>>720808121
Hollow Knight's DLC were kino, so Silksong's would probably be kino too.
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>>720808130
If I pull it off, will you die?
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>>720808121
Anything. They set the bar before adding a shit ton of dlc for free, no way they don't they do it again.
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>>720804430
>Crest
I like Beast the Best
>Red Tool
I think that Hornet's canonically favorite tool is the Buzzsaw (And its mine)
>Blue Charm
Early game its Skull Mask for being able to survive. Late game it's spool extender for being able to hold more emergency heals
>Yellow Tool
I enjoy the Rosary Magnet the most. Almost never took it off as soon as I got it, and I'm sure it has saved me hours of gametime
>Silk Skill
Threadstorm has managed to get me through a number of bosses that spawn enemies so it has a special place in my heart
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>>720808175
it would be very ouchie
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>>720808171
They should add crest swapping in the DLC
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>>720807812
Only act 3. Everything prior is the result of either the weavers or GMS
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>>720808110
>Ehhh, that one was easy for me.
I personally didn't mind Bilewater or the High Halls gauntlet, but hearing this makes me legitimately confused. Good for you anon, I wish the Rasher went as well for me but I just hated that shit.
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I miss shade cloak
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>>720799981
I can't be the only one disappointed that having your needle repaired and subsequently sharpened/oiled doesn't minorly change the look of its shading at least a little, making it cleaner and less dulled in game instead of just changing its look in your inventory. Could've even had a mechanic the longer you go without resting at a bench killing things the more the hue returns to it's original look.

Would've even liked a little embroidery on the edges of her robe after getting the glide ability too but I get that's a little much.
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>>720804430
>crest
Wanderer's for exploration, Hunter for bosses.
>red tool
Cogflies. Come on is there really any other answer?
>blue tool
Longclaw. I was complaining about the reach for a while and then when I got this I never ever took it out.
>yellow tool
Injector Pin, easily.
>silk skill
Thread Storm or the parry one I forgot the name. But mostly Thread Storm.
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>>720807961
As other anon said, without Lace there Silk just accepts death and tries to take Hornet with her. But I don't think Hornet would have died since Knight shows up clutch once more.
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Where's my epic Pale King memory fight?
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>>720808304
What route did you head through? I've seen a lot of anons agree that going through the exhaust organ makes the quest a lot more bearable
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wow i sure love bumping into every wall and ceiling for 10 hours straight to progress the story because it's locked in some hidden location with just one hidden entrance
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do bugs fart?
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>>720808432
I agree, maps should have had an opening on them to show you where you could use it.
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>>720808432
What the fuck are you even doing? Looking for spots to super jump at?
Light you dumb idiot. Look for a light source shining down. That's how you can tell.
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>>720808432
when you find it you'll be mad and think "I'm sure I checked here"
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What parts of the map are optional/skippable?
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It should only be optional upgrade stuff in the secret places, hiding a whole area in a very hidden spot is silly.
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>>720808379
The expected one through Shellwood and Blasted Steps. I'd never even considered that going through Exhaust Organ was technically an option, and I'll probably try that out on my next playthrough. Honestly it was just the time limit that had me fucked up and stressed out, considering that I did the Lacquer quest without any hassle or stress whatsoever.
I just think it's funny that I had no problems with any bosses or locations in the game, just to get heated as fuck at that one particular fetch quest.
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>get through bilewater
>few areas later get double jump
>ok i'll come back to it to see what i missed
>mfw there's still like another 70% to go and it's all even more aids than the first part
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>>720808603
Except for all the places where theres no indication yeah
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>First Sinner
I just beat this bitch and still don't know what the fuck just happened. One of those times I was just mashing buttons and happened to win at the end.
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what does poisoned flea brew do
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>>720808804
It's the opposite at most. Places with light sources not having an opening above.
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>>720808813
same, fight was a blur for me but was fun
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>>720808813
One of the fights where fighting like a xenomorph with rabies works
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>>720808664
I'm just glad i found the Wreath of purity before going through part 2 of bilewater.
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>>720808432
>>720808432
I did the same thing and did the whole run around bumping ceilings and hiting walls.
super jump the elevator below grand gate
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>>720808818
the same as flea brew but you leave fart clouds that poison stuff
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I fucking hate these cunts with every fiber of my being
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The unraveled is kicking my ass. He has TOO MUCH FUCKING HEALTH
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>>720808121
There's several areas in the release trailer that got cut, I was looking forward to the actual coral zone the entire time, instead it was just a dusty and desaturated platforming gauntlet.
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Hollow Knight > Silk Song
It is what it is.
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>>720804430
>crest
Wanderer for most of the game. Architect for bosses.
>red tool
Sting Shard is underrated for clearing both bosses and Gauntlet rooms
>Blue tool
Pollip Pouch
>Yellow Tool
Compass
>silk skill
Silkspear
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>>720808991
I spent 3 times as long on him than Lost Lace. Fitting for a secret boss touched by some horrorfying lovecraftian power
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>>720808121
Only thing I want is a boss rush/refight mechanic. I wanna sometimes just refight Widow or First Sinner for fun.
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>>720808603
there's like billion of different places where light is shining down without any hidden entrance
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I don't wanna go and fight the scary fire robot
I want to stay and chill with my pilgrim bro
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>unravelled is filtering /v/
>karmellita is filtering /v/
>last judge is filtering /v/
>motherfucking beastfly is filtering /v/
These are the people I share a board with, gross
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>>720808121
Wrong.
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>>720801678
They've been involved in void fuckery since the first game
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Is it possible to enter the citadel through wisp thicket? I'm pretty sure you can grab the wall leading into it without double jump by leading a flying enemy over, but the part of greymoor where the entrance is located seems gated by act 2 upgrades.
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>>720809306
>stay tuned for 2032 to see how that turns out
wwww
It's a shame I know most journos throw out those jokes out of genuine pettiness because "lol 7 years" is pretty funny now that we finally have the game itself.
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>>720806705
Narrative. The age of silent protagonists is dead and gone.
Combat
Early game difficulty
Builds
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Is flew brew basically the same as infection juice?
Now that we know that Lifeblood is just as destructive as the orange stuff, could it be that its just used as a drug (or alcohol) when its not busy mutating and making bugs aggressive?

I mean the brew does make you faster and do more damage, just like it did to infected bugs in hallownest.
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>>720809417
HK had a way better story in all regards
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>>720807215
Not gonna mass respond to everyone but thanks for the tips anons. managed first try after that.
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>>720806705
Combat and movement in my opinion.
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>>720808121
I want more of the same because I like it. I enjoy playing Silksong, and I would like to play more Silksong. I don't see why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.
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>>720809450
because it was just dark souls story
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>>720809431
There was no flea juice in Hallownest, what the hell are you talking about
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>>720809431
Infection was specifically a biproduct of the Radiance. Can't be the same thing.
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>>720807314
No tools git gud
Oh god Pantheon of Pharloom would be a nightmare I'm not ready.
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>>720809431
it's just some tasty stew
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>>720809306
Silksong Godhome is going to be a bitch. We all know they're going to do a Godhome for it.
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>>720807615
this
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>>720808432
jesus dude
Map is your first clue. If there's an opening there's probably a way to get to it
Light is your second clue. Light pours through cracks.
The cracks themselves are your last clue. Walls, floors, and ceilings that have hidden entrances look a little different than others.
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>>720809417
>The age of silent protagonists is dead and gone.
That's not inherently a good thing.
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>>720804430
>Crest
Reaper - It's the best crest for getting around and the free post-heal silk gets you far.
>Red tool
Didn't use them. Either you know how to beat a boss and don't need them or you don't and end up spamming all your tools before dying in phase 2 to some attack you don't know how to deal with and end up running out of shards.
>Blue tool
Warding Bell, saved me so many times.
>Yellow tool
Compass lol
>Silk Skill
Didn't use them, saved the silk for healing for the reaper free silk.
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>>720800037
Jannytranny can go kill xerxelf and so do you
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>>720809417
No, Hollow Knight's story is so much better presented to the player.
The amount of times people have to ask about why Lace/Silk/the Weavers did whatever they did vs how nice and straightforward the Pale King and the Radiance's motivations are speaks to that.
Also, fighting Lost Lace is just nowhere near as satisfying a narrative climax as fighting the Hollow Knight and the Radiance.
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>>720809478
>it was just dark souls story
No, just the premise was dark souls. The whole story was so much more.
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>>720810289
same with dark souls, thanks vaati for helping me learn /v/ theories :)
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>>720804430
>crest
hunter, I like having that moveset as the default, I only used wanderer to pogo those core enemies, to kill them in a sensical manner.
>red tool
cogflies, they're cute
>blue tool
either mask or longclaw, I liked the pyre to cook enemies for huntress
>yellow tool
compass or magnetite brooch, always have those two
>silk skill
threadstorm or cross stitch.
>
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what do i do in this room? i hear a weird grunting
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>>720808989
All flying enemies piss me off because they have that fly close enough to attack then stay out of reach pattern but these guys are especially bad.
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>>720810036
If people didn't have mossbag vids to orient HK they'd be just as lost. The story's got about the same level of presentation.
Also you've got way more people asking about SS's story because there's more normalfags playing and normalfags are retarded.
It's the same reason back when Demon Souls released, people mostly got the story just fun. But with ER you've got a thousand "lol where's my vaati lorevid bruh I can't follow this".
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>>720810364
music but you'll be disappointed
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>made screenshot twice during cutscene
>immediately fight Lace
AAAAIIIIEEEE I don't even understand what's going on.
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>Fixed Cogflies incorrectly resetting their HP to full on scene change.
It's so fucking over.
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maybe silksong is only harder because the iframe dash in HK was too strong
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oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit I accidentally let out the beast in far fields and can't find him. how fucked am I?
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>>720810559
The I-frame dash instilled bad habits into gameplay and really fucked with the flow of combat
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>>720810387
To be fair ER's story and lore really was a lot more fragmented and shitty than DeS or any of the DS. Being pretty much a true open world didn't help much either.
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>>720808989
OH MY FUCKING GOD JUST FUCK OFF I JUST WANT TO GO FIGHT THE JUDGE YOU FUCKING CUNTS STOP FLYING IN MY WAY ALL THE FUCKING TIME
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I'M MAD
FUCK YOU TEAN CUNTY
FCK
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>>720810627
it's fine
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>>720810686
I disagree. Outside of a few side things the main story and background of ER was pretty easy to follow. Sure some details are murky but the overall thing is easy. People are just genuinely daft in my opinion.
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>>720808989
Funfact almost every FUCKING area in this game have ONE ANNOYINGLY DESIGNED flying enemy
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>>720810716
If you patched, it's 1 guy. If you didn't - it's 2. It's fine.
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hot take:
TC actually designed the game to be stratified. If you are an average player, you can get to the first ending by simply beating the obvious bosses and traversing the obvious areas needed for the story to keep going. Almost all areas and bosses people find frustrating are the optional ones to move to act 3. If you aren't a stubborn retard, you can "finish" the game without being that good
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>>720810797
Wait is that why the second fucker disappeared? The patch?
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>>720810482
I knew something was wrong when they kept killing silk kattle in bilewater
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I disagree with Lace hitboxes.
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>>720810797
Well, good
That runback is fucking cancerous enough with just one of these niggers showing up
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>>720810938
My counterpoints
>Last Judge runback
>High Halls
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>>720811003
Both are easy
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>>720799981
Is it a feature working as intended to lose your whole silk when you get damaged while healing?
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>>720808989
The bell niggers in the citadel made me hate these guys less in comparison. And the cancer with wings in the putrefied ducts did the same for the bell niggers.
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>>720811040
yes
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>>720810938
norrmie way to play metroidvania is too fill out the map, normal person wouldnt see act 3 bosses because it is hidden behind a not obvious breaking wall basically but bilewater would be a surface level stuff
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>>720811003
those are not really counterpoints. it's the final boss of act 1, it shouldn't be that easy. high halls is small as shit and mostly platforming
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>>720810559
It was and they clearly knew it by designing DLC enemies around it, like with NKG's flame trail.
That said, the Silksong dash's wind up is 3000 years too long
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>>720800586
You can tell where he's going to charge because it always charges level with where you are when it winds up for it, and it does it at a pretty consistent rate. But yeah that fight takes some getting used to. Abuse Clawline whenever you can.
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>>720808989
I frankly find these to be one of the least annoying fliers. They don't do that infuriating back step like most others (or keep a tethered distance just slightly out of reach like some other cunts), and the cone projectile is hardly the bullet hell obstacle.
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>>720811182
It's not the area, but the trial in High Halls.
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>>720808507
Yep, and Hornet's smell really bad, so stop fantasizing about them.
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why are people shilling those two so much?
They're robo-faggots. Why couldn't they be prince+princess, team cherry?
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>>720810938
That's true to an extent. But it's less true than it was in HK. Getting an ending in HK is extremely easy. Getting an ending in Silksong is about on the level of getting dream no more in HK.
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>>720804430
Wanderer
Straight Pin
Poison
Dice
Cross Stitch
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>>720811284
Its technically selfcest as the robots are modelled after the same one dude.
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>>720811284
it's a cool boss
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>>720811284
crickets are all gay men
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>>720811284
explain exactly your grivances without incel language
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>>720810797
They patched out the least offensive and most avoidable one on runbacks too, just a spit in the eye to people "heh, we listened to your complaints and made it easier lol"
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>>720811284
Seeing dancing and thinking homosexuality screams insecurity and projection.
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>>720811326
no
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I don't understand Lace's charge attack for distances after 1st scream.
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Dare I say it? Kino
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>>720811417
>organ music stops
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>>720811417
basic and easy, boring
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>>720810993
That runback was fine and didn't need nerfed.
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>>720808024
>Operatic music interrupted by monty python squelch
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>>720811284
>gay bugs
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>>720811494
ocarina of time did that 27 years ago
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I'm at 99% completion and I'm missing a tool apparently. Halp.
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>>720811417
Everything in this fight is great. Presentation, music, HK Hornet moveset
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>>720808818
Indigestion.
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Does Lace's counter attack becomes longer with each attempt? Why the fuck can't I dodge it with dash now?
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>>720811284
I hate faggotry but this one doesn't seem all that strong to me, still feels like it could've been a brotherly love angle, like maybe they were twins and they were just flamboyant. Then again I still haven't completed act 3 so maybe there's a more blatant reference I haven't found.
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>>720811326
The game very clearly tells you that they were gay prince lovers in Verdania
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>>720811679
Holy meds
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>>720800037
I want to know why discussing a video game on /v/ gets deleted all the time.
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>>720810559
Iframe dashing through attacks and thin enemies was more fun than:
>move away from attack
>sprint back in and smack enemy
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>>720811659
Remove heavy belt, equip fast sprint. It's one of those.
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>>720811040
yes, but what's actually bullshit is pressing a silk attack and getting stunned or knocked out of it still taking the silk before the attack frames start
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>>720811708
It wasn't
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>>720811679
Yes but that robot models were modelled after only one of them, they used his whole body for the robot. It just so happens to be that the princes looked really similar, Hornet even comments on it and thinks its weird.
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>>720811701
READ nigger READ
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>>720811507
Yeah it was pretty easy but it was meant to be an alternate final boss for act 1 so difficulty wise its meant to be like the Last Judge. Would be neat if they buffed each boss if you fight them later in Act 2 based on which route you chose to take to get to the citadel.
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>>720811417
>mist leading into phantom
https://youtu.be/Q6is6K8jbho?si=VCGC4g1149reuIX9&t=2847

It's more specific to the ost, but I love it.
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>>720811565
Nevermind I somehow missed flintslate, I got it
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>>720811565
flintlsate from behind simple key door in deep docks
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>>720811789
Hornet is homophobic.
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>>720811789
They're siblings not lovers you fucking dumb schizo
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>>720811789
they sound more like twin brothers than lovers
not that loving somebody doesn't mean sexual love necessarily, it could be familial love
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>>720811789
>two bros rulling a nation with kindness and grace
>:|
>they also do ballet
>GAY BOYS GAY BOYS
The moral of the story is male ballet will always be gay
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>>720811793
>You show up to fight Phantom later than usual
>She's just dead and unraveled due to lack of silk
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>>720811789
If they're princes of the same place and look the same they're obviously brothers, not lovers.
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>>720811892
Same thing.
Sweet home Alabama.
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>>720811284
Eh. There wasn't any gay ass "muh oppressed gays" fuckery so I didn't mind.
In general gays in media are best when they're just put there without raising too much of a stink about it.
Helps that since TC is so quiet they've not gotten into any online media shitflinging about it so they don't get sucked up into the political wars.
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I really like the extra focus Silksong puts on the arts. It's cool theming
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>>720811896
I guess Hornet wouldn't understand sibling love, she tried to kill most of her brothers that she met.
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>>720811660
In act three you go through the memory of a gay bug who spends the entire time explaining his homosexuality with this other faggot.
Trobbio is fun gay, these two are woe is me gay which is so much worse once you're dealing with the actual npc and not the robots.
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>>720811789
Hornet's diss there is also foreshadowing that she will fall in love with Lace who is her opposite
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>>720811003
>Last Judge runback
It takes 30 seconds, MAX. I can't believe people bitch about it.
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>>720811565
What is that electric purple thing?
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>>720812057
zap tool, the only tool with 2 modes, get it in memorium(?)
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>>720812057
some kind of takoyaki
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>>720811789
>love is always romantic
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>>720811094
Fucking shit...
>>720811742
It's the main reason I swapped to the parry skill.
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>>720812024
Lace is for bullying and brat correction, not love.
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>>720812024
I think Hornet's opposite would be Sherma.
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>>720812024
Considering Hornet complains about no one matching her age and Lace being probably ageless like her they're a perfect pair.
>Starts of as "I'm just with you because you need silk to live!"
>Slowly falls in love
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>>720804430
Hunter. It has no weaknesses, diagonal pogo is actually good, and it feels the most canon.
Snare setter. Before that it was tacks.
If I had to pick one, either warding bell or fractured mask. But I like the combo of injector and multibinder most.
Dice
Thread storm. It's the only one I can remember to use.
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>>720812119
no, but these two are obviously lovers
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>>720812175
brothers, they're princes of the same kingdom
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>>720812237
lol, sure mate
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>>720804430
Architect
Cogflies (Poison, of course)
Longclaw
Magnetite Dice
Cross Stitch
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>>720811789
people are coping, that is a weird thing to say about brothers
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>>720812237
Nah Hornet's comment makes it not seem like that. If they were brothers it wouldn't be odd to love someone that similar to you at all.
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uhmm
am I supposed to defeat shakra? Do I miss anything if I don't do it?
like, how have I not seen anyone complain about this one yet? this is literally worse than beastfly 2 shit is so fast it's humanly impossible to even react to anything
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>>720812175
>fuck women
>only share love and loyalty with the bros
You wouldn't get it
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>>720812140
>"I'm just with you because you need silk to live!"
Other way around is hotter
>Lace going "I'm just with you because I need silk to live, idiot!"
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>>720812256
Sure they're a bit fruity and they clearly treasure sibling bonds in their culture but canonically all signs point to brotherhood and dance partnership, that's about it.
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>>720812140
It is a pretty great set up for some yuri drama.
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>>720812308
Hornet killed at least one her brothers and tried to kill two others.
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>>720812312
If you stack a lot of passive stuff it is easy.
Memory shard
Poison tools
Cogflies
Tacks/spike traps
Rest at spa for full silk
Only use silk for healing
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>True ending
>Lace laughs
>Hornet stares back blanky
I think she has the autism
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>>720809689
map doesn't show hidden paths
light rays are everywhere and don't indicate anything
cracked and broken tiles can just be a design choice and not interactable
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>>720812406
>If you stack a lot of passive stuff it is easy
but... I want to actually beat the game... I'm not a shitter...
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>>720811191
>>720811708
Use your harpoon jesus christ
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>>720812406
Dishonoraburu
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>>720812312
It's the most optional kind of optional. It doesn't count towards anything and is even missable.
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>>720812134
That's why they're the best ship.
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>If you get caught by the fly jailer while cursed, instead of being taken to the Slab you wake up a second later surrounded by vines and the jailer strangled to death
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>>720811789
The replies remind me of people trying to argue Sheo and the Nailsmith aren't gay
>Look, just because the Nailsmith is living with Sheo and just because the achievement for seeing them together is called Happy Couple does not mean they're a gay couple, Team Cherry would not put non-yuri gay romance in their games
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>>720811892
>Dual princes of old Verdania
Either they're just brothers, or they're brothers AND lovers, but they can't not be brothers with that comment.
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>>720812413
>>Hornet stares back blanky
How else are you even meant to react in such a scenario?
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>>720812453
>>720812459
Once they give hornet a teleport that she can use in battle it is a fair fight since that bitch can do it.
Until then no tactic is dishonorable. Maybe she should buy some tacks.
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>>720811708
They made sharpdart just for you.
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>>720812413
Which one?
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>>720812140
>Being shipped mainly because of the technicality that everyone else will die of old age
I'm not the only one who finds this lame as fuck, am I? Their chemistry even in fanart is so generic.
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>>720812584
my brain autocorrected it as shartfart when I got it
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>>720812628
Based
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>>720812628
more like milk song
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>>720812615
Its not just that, mainly the silk dependency. I can't really see a way for them to not have to stick together without Lace dying. Its more of a enemies that don't get along into eventual friends cliche rather then just the age thing.
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>>720812628
AWOOGA
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>>720812597
Hornet is autistic. Lace is just a retarded child.
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>>720812024
Fall in love with that arse.
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>>720811539
mario first did platforming 45 years ago
therefore silksong shouldn't have any platforming
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>>720812615
I'm not into it but shipping doesn't matter and I like seeing them in fan art anyway. I would like more art of Hornet cuddling Sherma though.
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>>720812615
Hornet has better chemistry with Shakra.
Lace would probably work better with Ghost more than Hornet.
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>>720812549
there's a lore tablet that explicitly refers to them as "lovers." I don't know why it's so hard to accept they're gay lol
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Why are they even called princes? There's no King or Queen so they'd have to be the King's right?
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>>720812783
Alright then they were gay incestuous lovers.
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>>720812615
>Their chemistry even in fanart is so generic.
I think not many artists finished the game yet, there's tons of potential for their dynamic after the true ending.
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>>720812703
>mainly the silk dependency.
Regardless of shipping I can at least admit that this is a neat concept.
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>>720812829
It's a principality, I guess.
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VREN!
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>>720812567
>Once they give hornet a teleport that she can use in battle
You mean the clawline?
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>>720808338
The original hollowknight didn't do this either.
Huge disappointment, honestly.
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>>720812916
No more like Marx's air dodge in Star Allies.
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>>720812829
The title "Prince" is also used for the ruler of a Principality.
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>>720812916
That isn't a teleport
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>>720812743
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HK3 will be Hornet gets kidnapped (again) and Lace needs to save her or she'll die
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GARAMA!!!
(means "come get some dumb bitch" in bug-tongue)
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>>720812615
From what I have seen so far in social media
>their dynamic overall was completely different from what fanartists imagined based on the 2019 demo (duh), making hundreds of pieces of fanart age like milk
>Lace is a child in everything except chronologically, which makes shipping her with Hornet it PrObLeMaTiC
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>>720812521
kino ngl
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Fucking fleas could have given me the pale oil they were hoarding earlier
It might have fucking helped you pieces of shit
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>>720812970
HK3 will have Hollow as the protagonist after getting taken to the City of Steel.
His skills and upgrades will be connected to a prosthetic arm he received to replace the one he lost while in the Black Egg.
His adventure occurs at the same time as Silksong, which is why his Shade doesn't help Hornet.
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lost lace is a nigger of a fight
if you sprint away to heal she'll teleport infront of you and boom - 2 contact damage
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>>720813095
>making hundreds of pieces of fanart age like milk
team cherry, I kneel
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>>720813238
Once you learn to bait certain attacks she is easy tough. Hardest thing is to not get greedy and interrupt your rhythm.
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>>720813217
>His adventure occurs at the same time as Silksong, which is why his Shade doesn't help Hornet.
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>>720813195
great way to go out
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/glhvl3/comment/fr0mfdn/?context=3
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>>720813338
You're a retard lmao
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>>720813338
Little Ghost is not the Hollow Knight you retard.
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>>720813238
heal mid air but not on her diagonal also time your heal with her throwing void traps, its free
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>>720812970
Both hornet and Zote were on that original kickstarter so the next protag is obvious.
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Hollow Knight 3 will be about how Hornet got greedy and crushed some other kingdom underneath her giant pale ass
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>>720805390
The pogo can be charged???
I thought its just a more unwieldy diagonal, but if you can charge it and stall in the air this changes everything
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>>720813498
But he died in Greenpath
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>>720813498
Zote really has such great potential. The realization that he is a complete fucking loser and has been all along, to then force himself to grow and eventually become the giga chad he always saw himself as. The story of the game shouldn't even be about him, he'd just be there basically as an NPC that follow around Hornet or whatever thinking he's tough when he's not. Only to actually become strong and save the day in the end
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>>720813615
Then at the end of the game you zoom out and see that its just the dream of his rotting corpse in greenpath
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>>720812970
Hornet getting kidnapped a second time would make her look incompetent
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>>720813615
>>720813606
>>720813498
>>720813338
there won't be a hk3 in our lifetime, team cherrys next game has already been trademarked and is cslled fearless fox
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>>720813608
Yes >>720805819
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>>720813498
Zote's game will be a wario-like
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>>720813738
As if the bugfucker weren't bad enough, i really don't wanna have to deal with fullblown furries
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Everything other then wanderer is so fucking slow though. How do you even deal damage or get silk back you do look one attack and the enemy has moved.
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>>720805819
>>720813608
>>720813740
my only problem with it is that uncharged is VERY short and fucks me up compared to Hunter
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>Weh weh wanderer is cheap!
Clearly you never seen architect gameplay
https://files.catbox.moe/kt90r8.mp4
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>>720813738
Unless one of them dies an early death we should still get like 2 more games out of Team Cherry in our lifetimes.
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So that's where the nigga went
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>>720813860
>No poison
You didn't cheese the game enough
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>>720813615
Were it up to me, I'd have him on be a summoner character for all the other bugs who bought into his bullshit like Bretta. He could have a mount to get all the movement upgrades and he'd go through the game never getting any stronger himself, despite saving the day he'd learn absolutely nothing.
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>>720814028
poison would hamper this builds success
you cant get the infinite hp regen if you use poison
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>>720814028
You can't use poison with regen
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>>720814074
>True ending is "my friends are my true strength!" kino
>If you instead act like an ass they all abandon him but if you still beat the boss with weak default zote you get a cool secret ending
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>>720808432
brother the snails tell you where to go after each one, || they say "they even set up a shrine to it up above in the citadel, might be a good place to start" or something to that effect ||
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>>720809293
>anon discovers that "/v/ sucks at video games" wasn't just a meme
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>>720809306
>>720809372
I love that they're still pissy they didn't get a free copy
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How the fuck do I beat the ant queen in act 3?
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>>720812442
Faggot, the cracks are quite noticeable you just suck like every shitter that's been crying about the map for 8 years
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>>720814443
poison tacks
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>>720812521
It's the little things
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>>720814443
I found that it was easiest to just not be afriad of taking a hit if it means getting 4-5 hits on her. Punish her hard
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Skarsinger Karmelita is kino as fuck fight
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Guys, How do I get past here????
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>>720814443
Tacks + cogfly + plasmium regen
>1 tried
Architect as a play style is proof that half the game isn't balanced correctly.
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>>720814443
idk, I think I just used hunter pogo
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>>720812829
Robin Hood was the prince of thieves but who was king?
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Shakra's journey should end with becoming Hornet's slave.
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>>720814443
Just git good.
I beat with just using the flea brew in about 4 tries. She telegraphs her attacks very blatantly, and has barely any moves that can hit you if you are pogoing her.
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>>720814646
I would play a bug dating sim as hornet
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>>720805274
It would've fit the vietnam areahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdbuJkJsXt0
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>>720814646
they make a better couple than lace and hornet. They share far more intimate moments, Shakra aids you in a gauntlet twice, and you find her master and mourn her together in the rain of a waterfall. Far more couple coded than the big and little sister coded of Hornet and Lace
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>>720814578
Architect is the journo difficulty option
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>>720814743
Pale King did nothing wrong
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Bosses should have been immune to all tool damage
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FUUUUUUUUCK
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The sounds that this enemy make are kinda hot
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C U T E
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>>720814649
>She telegraphs her attacks very blatantly
Read: shows one out of four different animations for about 150 milliseconds.
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>>720814858
How far?
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>>720813095
Let them seethe. Lacenet is endgame
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>>720814840
Not enough sawblades
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>>720814743
Hornet is a being pale, Shakra would be lucky to be called "slave" by such.
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>>720814923
saw posts saying this is actually seth's pin lmao
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>>720813095
>hundreds of years old
>"this is a child"
This isn't even a 1000 year old vampire loli situation. She isn't physically a child. She just acts kind of immature.
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>>720814980
It is, you can tell by the shading retard
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>>720806942
And he knew at that moment the plan was doomed to fail
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>>720814901
Not very, got to greymoor. Trying to do it along with the speedrun achievement.
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>>720814960
Did you draw that anon? I like that fanart a lot
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>>720814896
So she telegraphs very blatantly, glad we agree
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>>720814895
So god damn adorable
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>>720807314
I kinda hope they just drop and rework the whole shard system
Here's my pseud game designer rework proposition:

-Tools don't cost shards anymore, they are simply limited by uses. Base carrying capacity is nerfed.
-The crafting kit upgrades now only increase tool damage, the tool pouches now increase tool usage instead of shard carry capacity.
-Shards are not capped anymore, but you lose a portion of them permanently when you die (vs losing all beads but being able to recover them) kind of like Sekiros exp. This still makes shard bundles valuable as you can pop them before buying from a shop
-To craft or buy any tool you'll need to spend a significant amount of shards (ranging from 100 to like 400). Shards are now clearly the "tool" currency while beads are for benches, stations or any other trinkets which also heavily alleviates the stingy bead economy
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>>720815068
Did you go through Lace 1 to Far Fields or straight to Shellwood via Wormways?
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>yuritroons shiting up the thread again
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>>720815159
NTA, but Lace 1 to Far Fields to Greymoor is faster by far.
You can farm a single spike source for the float quest by leaving and entering an area.
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>>720815121
>the tool pouches now increase tool usage
don't they already do that? I distinctly remember upgrades that made me able to hold more straight pins
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>>720814858
Get fucked
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>>720815159
Lace 1 to fourth chorus up past pilgrims rest.
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>>720808603
>bunch of lights with no secret spot
>bunch of spots with no light
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>>720811389
even if his screeching is overblown, it is literally meant to represent two princes which gets expanded upon on another side quest
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>>720813860
I counted I tanked 34 mask of damage this entire fight (including the previous phase).
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>>720813095
>Lace is a child in everything except chronologically, which makes shipping her with Hornet it PrObLeMaTiC
She calls Hornet little spider and at various times during the game drops the child like behavior and gets serious, including in the last conversation before the plunge into the void lake.
She might, in some fashion, be made to act like a child but she's clearly a being more ancient than any bug in Pharloom. I swear people on the internet just get more retarded as we go.



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