You didn't beat the game.
I Shitted HARD turds in the TOLET
>>720802941that shit literally is a cheat code
>>720802941haven't found this yet. What's it do?
I don't care, I'm not dealing with the retarded chargers in Putrid Pipes normally.
>>720803615Tacks
>>720803615falls on the ground and does damage to enemies that walk over itit's biggest advantage is that you can bait charger into them and that it requires no aimingthey're not that good with poison imo, because they do their damage all together most of the time
>>720802941i used one of the crests that have downpogo and feel like i haven't beat the game either because of it
>>720803693How much damage does the poison actually do? I've used it with the trap and never noticed the ticks doing a lot but it's hard to tell
>>720802941Tacks aren't even that good. Who are you going to use them against? WALKING enemies? LOL. The only useful tools are those that let you deal with flying 2-damage enemies who swarm you as you're progressing through a platforming section over 2-damage spikes or lava pits.
>>720803696Reaper, my beloved...
>>720803742no idea, I think it's about the damage of a single attack spread across 3 ticksfiguring the damage out would require data mining of some sort
>>720803696Hunter gets upgraded you fucking retard
>>720803742no one knows anything
>>720803818A Russian horror story
>>720803808What did the hunter upgrade even do? Tried it for a bit and didn't notice much of a change
>>720803696feel free to play the game on extreme anal cancer modeI'll just play on hard(normal down pogo)
>>720803850Gives you the focus ability. Little white bar fills on the left side of your crest display by hitting enemies and when it's full you do 2x damage. Resets when you get hitAlso you should go back to Eva whenever you fully unlock all the slots on any crest, if you haven't
>>720803808It needs upgrades to compete with other crests because it's not close otherwise
>>720803771Tacks melt bosses that stand on the ground.
>>720803850if you do a certain amount of attacks without getting hit back you start doing more damage,then if you keep it up your damage increases againthis resets on taking damage or sitting at a benchit's good if you're in the zone against a boss, or in beating the first phase of a boss that you know by heartobjectively speaking, it's probably no up long enough to be worth it, but I keep playing hunter in the hope of getting good enough
>>720803771they're a godsent for the High Halls 'boss fight', you just stack them before the final wave
What are the best crests? Beast doesn't even seem worth checking out because of the weird-ass pogo
>>720804038>God Gamer tier:Hunter (if you can never get hit)Wanderer (parry god and getting in more hits)>Gimmick tierArchitect (oh my endless health, oh my tools spam, oh my charge poke)>Noob Friendly TierReaper (ez pogo, big silk, long poke)
>>720804038I'm not all that far in but beast is great for tardraging down a boss when you're tired of learning its patterns. As for exploring it's complete ass since the pogo sucks for traversing and there isn't always an opportunity to lifesteal.
>>720804038>bestYou're supposed to swap crests and talismans to better deal with your current objective, not use the same ones the entire game.But, anyway, Wanderer and Reaper seem to be the better general all-purpose crests.
>>720804159>Hunter (if you can never get hit)Surely everyone can hitless at least 50% of every boss fight, since it's almost required for beating it
my crest: huntermy skill: whichever I found lastmy tools: I don't rememberyep, it's gaming time
>>720804207>You're supposed to swap crests and talismans to better deal with your current objective*heavy's voice* NO!
>>720804159Hunter is shit even if you get hit. Wanderer with longnail out-dps it in any situation, yet again proving that Knight > Hornet
>>720804159Beastbros...
>>720804270Is it worth it to take that talisman that stops you from getting pushed back or does it not really matter for Wanderer
>>720804038Architect (the only charge attack worth using, 3 tool slots) > Wanderer (best overall moveset and twice as fast as other crests, best pogo) > Shaman (the only way to make spells viable, with longnail each slash covers half the screen) > Hunter (jack of all trades) > Witch (shitty gimmicky heal but iframes on running attack i guess) > Beast (just a gimmicky garbage)
>>720804159Isn't Shaman the true noob crest cause you can just hit enemies from the other side of the screenI guess it's too late in the game to carry anyone
>>720804215it depends on the boss imo, some bosses like GMS you can just smack contantly and Hunter shits on themother bosses I end up beating despite getting clippsed a few timeswhenever the Godhome equivalent mode is out Hunter will become top tier when trying to do Radiant runsbut just going through the game for the first time? maybe it's up for 20% of the fight when you win
>>720804317Honestly i didn't notice that much diffeence, the knockback is not as extreme as in HK
>>720804362>3 tool slotsHow much do you fucking niggers use tools? Who cares about tool slots, just hit shit with your sword man
>>720804375I haven't played around with Shaman yet, because I have no charms for it.
>>720804419>How much do you fucking niggers use toolsTools are the only fun specials in the game. It's a shame they are related to the worst resource management system in the genre.
Has anyone done something cool with the architect crest? Feels like it's too high of an upkeep especially if you're struggling on some boss where the runback doesn't get you many shards. Full buff build might be cool with the poison crest
>>720804451Do you already know about lifeblood hack?
>>720804450>worst resource management system in the genrehold my beer
>>720804451The best thing about the architect is the charge attack, not the tools. Charge attack is so strong it completely shuts down encounters. It's stronger than spells with Shaman crest despite being free. It's the only charge attack worth using in the game, the rest are overnerfed garbage that doesn't generate focus.
>>720804484Even Sekiro wasn't as dogshit as this. You could buy the emblems on every bonfire.But they essentially have the same issues, yes
>>720803742A fully upgraded sword hit is 21 damage. A poison tick is 4 and one application does 2 ticks. Poison duration does not stack. It is a big increase in damage in the early to mid game and remains good in the endgame on tools that proc it multiple times, like flies and tacks.
I just finished Act 1 yesterday. Do the runbacks get worse? I haven't had any truly horrible ones yet
>>720804582the bad runbacks are the Last Judge, the Corral Desert boss and the Bilewater boss.That's it.
>>720804475If you mean overdosing on blue then yeah but I don't know if it's permanent or too powerful so haven't tried it myself in case I toddlerize the game. I'm enjoying my shitter rage at the moment so I'm avoiding things that feel too much like exploits or trivialize the game to the point I'd no longer be learning enemy patterns
>>720804687Yeah Last Judge annoyed me slightly which is why I asked if it gets worse than that>that one fly dude who blocks your jump and requires 4 hits>wind randomly activating and fucking up your pogo
>>720804687Last Judge isn't even that bad once you figure out a path.
>Wanderer crest>flea brew>don't get the full value out of it cause I can't spam the button fast enough during combat
>>720802941You did not beat the game
One day people will pretend that they always believed the beast pogo and healing to be good, and that the only reason they didn't use it was the lack of blue slots.
>>720804861Name all the crests I'm allowed to use so I can claim I beat the game, please
>>720804764I never figured out the bypass for the first fly and I didn't think it was that bad because the rest is easy to run past.The real offender in the game is the Bilewater boss, especially if you don't find the hidden bech, which I didn't before beating the boss.I also cheesed the boss with tools and safespot abuse, which felt bad.
>>720802941If only the normies played long enough to discover Tacks and Cogflies, they wouldn’t complain so much.
>>720802941wait... you faggots play games?
>>720804906>bypass for the first flyqrd? I just mentioned that exact fly here >>720804732I guess there was a way to lower that very first cage so you can jump to the higher platform without going around the bottom?
>>720803693Great, except all the annoying enemies are flying
>>720804952No, if you fully send it with a sprint and jump off the edge of that platform below the fly, you can be up before he finishes spawning and ignore him. If you hesitate AT ALL you’ll mistime it and he’ll hit you. Just book it. Don’t release sprint from the second you enter that screen.The runback is still rough though.
>>720804952nah, I've seen people sprint past it (under it), which is what I meant by 'bypass'it sure feels like that cage should be possible to lower
>>720805043Eh after that fly it's just>go up to platform>pogo on judge >float over to platform>jump over and pogo on bell or the second fly if it came upAnd the rest is platforming>>720805061Yeah it looks like a shortcut
>>720804716sitting at a bench resets you to normal health
>>720804687>king kahnn>worst runbackWhat? You can break a big stalagtite that opens up a shortcut for you to get to the arena right before his room. The only """hard""" part of it is going through like 5 rounds of enemies (even then they're easy as fuck if you use your harpoon to gap close like a regular human being). Bilewater is the only true shitty runback.
>>720805116>the runback is bad? no way, you just have to do a fucking enemy gauntlet every timeIt's a waste of time faggot, no matter how hard it is
>>720805116I wasn't talking about act 3.
>>720805116He means the malding incel fly. The runback is time consuming, even from the blasted steps bench.
>>72080294190% of the enemies fly.
Why the fuck does the charge attack not give you any silk? Who though this was a good idea? What even is the reasoning behind it? Balance my ass.
>>720804861If you willingly used the crest that comes pre-equipped with heavy blow and has the worst nail dps then you certainly did beat it.
>>720805094You don’t even have to get close enough to a judge to pogo, you can go up walls and turn around into that crevice on the upper left.The hard part is the second half>jump down, pray no wind>two bell pogos above a worm trap into a wall kick before a spawned conchfly can get to you>tight bell pogo into wall kick because you BARELY have the altitude to get the lower corner of the wall without clawline/faydown and the hover will fuck you at random due to the windYou don’t tend to take damage from fucking it up, a miss just drops you down to run again, but when you’re in>come on come on fuck off I just wanna fight Judge againIt tilts you so hard to choke that wall kick with a bad collision and have to run it back. That to me was the only obnoxious part of the runback, that little loop.
>>720805267>>jump down, pray no windI just activate my float cloak every single time I wanna pogo on a bell to make it more accurateI'm not worried about losing 0.3 seconds to a float
>>720805245It should really give you more silk if you land it.
>>720805252It just feels so right to use it.Does Reaper really do the same damage per hit as other crests? I know Wanderer has higher DPS if you can stay close enough because it can get off two hits in the time Reaper can get one, but I mean blow for blow. Surely all crests don’t do identical single strike damage?
>>720805321Oh also I guess I should mention, I was using Hunter crest and the diagonal pogo is great for platforming sections where you have to go really far horizontally
>>720804375noob can't live without heal, and you don't heal using shaman.
>>720805267NTA but everything after the fly didn't bother me much, even using beast crest while pogoing in the wind. I think as long as there's some reward in the runback, for instance roasary drops or decent shard yield, it becomes less grating.
>>720805252>description says it does "slow heavy blows">they do the same damage as all other nail attacksAbsolutely baffling design choice to be desu. If it had 1.5x damage it would be competitive>>720805382Yeah it does
>>720802941I dont wanna hear shit about anyone not beating the game until theyve played Reaper. This thing is so much better than all the other crests. You dont even need tools because you can just mash the attack button and you have full silk bar and maybe even land a critical.
>>720802941oh no! its yet another episode of>I think videogames are replacements for real life achievementsI don't "beat" games, I don't need to fight against a toy, I just use it however I find fun, then move on the minute is no longer funthere is no gamer credit whatsoever to be had, anywhere, but least of all here
>>720805460I mean, I’m still gonna use it because I love the way its pogo feels and I’m very accustomed to the free silk at this point. But yeah, kind of a dumb balance decision. In most games “slow and heavy” actually does HIGHER DPS than quick tappers just because of the higher cost of a single whiff. Granted Reaper’s not using a wind-up time or anything, but I’d still expect more damage per strike to be viable in a poke-based game.Oh well. I’m still Reaper for life. Best crest, never changing.
>>720805512>ReaperFuck Wanderer. Wanderer is so damn good. It matches the speedy yet fragile playstyle Hornet has so well.
>>720805512In practice all of the crests have the same attack speed as Reaper most of the time because you're dealing with flying most of the time.
>>720805567You sounds mad, did some "gamers" undermined you "real life" achievements in the past or what??
What are your go-to skills? I'm really enjoying the parry right now especially when facing groups of trash. Don't know if it works on bosses though
>>720805629But Reaper has more range which makes it easier to hit those niggers
>>720805629Wanderers attack speed is so fucked you can jush mash attack and if the opponent does anything youll trigger a parry. Seriously it utterly destroys the game.>>720805714It does but theyll probably dash out of it the damage. Its a bit of a waste. The AoE moves are better.
>>720805589>>720805460Early datamining shows Reaper does 1.3x normal nail damage. So it’s definitely not as high DPS as Wanderer if you can get 2 hits in, or Evolved hunter if you can avoid damage. But it does thwack harder. Just not hard enough that it will feel like enemies “die in fewer hits” in most cases. But on bosses the pokes will add up faster.
>>720805714Rune Rage is the only one worth the opportunity cost. It misses a lot, but can deal absurd damage. Really good for clearing mob arenas. I cleared the last wave of High Halls by casting Rune Rage twice.
>>720805838>Early datamining shows Reaper does 1.3x normal nail damageSounds made up but I guess I'll go try it on the fatties before the double moss mother fight, those took about 10 hits so I should see a difference between reaper and wanderer
>>720804687>Corral Desert>Bilewaternever seen those areas despite getting to *an* ending
>>720805971Please do confirm. I’m getting this from someone who used cheat engine to display health bar values and compiled tables of attack damages, upgrade differences, etc.
>>720806094>He never saw BilewaterDamn son I wish I was you. It lives rent free in my head and I found the secret bench
They should've made Bilewater run at 10 FPS
Is there just nothing in Whiteward and Wormways? Do I need to enter the areas from another entrance to make them more than just one hallway?
>>720806582Find the key and corresponding door in Whiteward. Wormways is just a connecting tunnel, but there’s a wish in there (collecting plasium) and technically it also has the exit down to Wanderer’s Crest in addition to the main upward climb.
>>720806582Whiteward has a silk heart and a hidden bosswhile Wormway has a tool that gives you lifeblood hearts.
The only thing more obnoxious than "you didn't beat the game" fags are the ones who get SO fucking angry and defensive at the suggestion, basically proving the former right.
>>720805252>>720805460You have a fuckton of range and the easiest pogo stick, plus extra silk for more frequent healsOk you do half he DPS but it doesn't matter if you have safer distances and can heal right away in case you get hit somehowMy only gripe is that I don't understand why this is a defensive crest when everything about it suggests it should be an offensive one
>>720806712shut up bitch
>>720806137I got the nail upgrade in Bellhart since the last time I tried that so unfortunately it wasn't quite 10 hits which makes the testing a bit more inaccurateI beat pic related fatty several times>Wanderer: 7 pogos>Beast: 7 pogos (I want a medal for pogoing that guy in that tiny space)>Reaper: 7 pogosI didn't try Hunter because the focus damage would throw off the numbersIf Reaper did 1.3x damage I would have expected him to die in 7/1.3 = 5.39 pogos, so he should have died on the sixth pogoAlso, unrelated to that, we have to remember that Wanderer has a crit mechanic when you're at max silk so it shits out even more DPS
>>720805596>Wanderer is so damn good. It matches the speedy yet fragile playstyle Hornet has so well.And ironically it's just a nerfed Knight's moveset
>>720805252I just really like the shoryuken attack when you run
>>720806796Just realized that it's possible pogo damage numbers are different than straight hits but I'm honestly not skilled enough to try to hit that guy while standing without getting killed myself
>>720806582Whiteward leads to the harpoon
>>720805971>I’m getting this from someone who used cheat engine to display health bar values and compiled tables of attack damages, upgrade differences, etc.I'm really curious how he's getting those number. NTA but I tested out melee damage with hunter (unfocused) reaper and wander on those big guys in abyss and for three he went down in exactly ten hits with regular slashes. I tried it again with flintslate (fire being a status ailments means it doesn't always proc on the first hit) and that averaged out to six hits for the kill on all three.
>>720806863I do too but generally I hate the dash attack with everything and I never want to do a dash attack
Okay so I hear everyone talking about Act 3 being bullshit.So what do you do BEFORE Act 3?A few things I didComplete all wishes in the 3 settlements (Bone Bottom, Bellhart, Songclave) - The whole yellow lesbian bug's questline - revive the robot - freed the green prince and interacted with him - got 2 upgrades for crests - DID NOT do the twisted child (may dupe file so I can do it later) - got double jump - did the fire area for the lantern - got gauge silkshot - did the queen egg delivery for the simp bug - explored all the map (minus hidden shit I don't know exists) - got all the fleas - got a house - sharpdart - rune rage - cross stitch - nail was upgraded with 2 oils - got plasmium vial - druid's eyes - claw mirror - longclaw - wreath of purity - maxed out tool pouchI don't know if that's all there is to do because fuck me but that's most of it.Also the fuck do I do with a Seeker's Soul?
>>720807034It's great for staying 100% safe when attacking big enemies who can't react fast like some minibosses
>>720806796Nah I think that’s pretty conclusive, I guess Reaper’s per hit damage is the same. What a shame. That means the slowest crest has the worst per-hit damage>Hunter gets boost mechanic>Wanderer gets crit mechanic>Architect gets double hit mechanicTC fix it. I won’t stop using Reaper, patch your game to make it justified plz.
>>720807229Reaper gets good range (on normal attacks and especially on the pogo) and extra silk. It's pretty good as is.
>>720807229I think they're saying that the extra range is its gimmick>>720807016Damn fire is almost a 2x DPS?
>>720807229It's already justified, it feels good to use, it doesn't need anything else
>>720807212>Also the fuck do I do with a Seeker's Soul?You need it to access act 3, so you're fine on it.
>>720807212seeker's soul is act 3 stuff
>>720807364I was gonna say the same, the hangtime on the pogo feels absolutely amazing
>>720807360It should at least be DPS competitive, which means more damage per hit.Range is a fine trade off for speed. Being more committed is exchanged for hitting from a safer distance. You shouldn’t also lose DPS for that. That’s a lot to give up in exchange for range.
>>720807212Just make sure you do everything you want to do before entering act 3 otherwise its gonna be way more of a pain to do.Seekers soul is for entering act 3, just go talk to the priest guy in songclave. And if you havent already kill the end boss before entering act 3.
>>720807461You're right in theory but I think more committed barely applies here. A Reaper whiff will almost never get you hit, it's not like it has insane endlag before you're allowed to move again, they just put an "artificial" delay before you're allowed to hit the button again
I've been going with Hunter cause of the passive damage but this thread is gonna make me go back to Reaper againYou never forget your first love
>>720807530It’s less to do with getting whiff punished and more to do with missing an opportunity to strike the boss. Wanderer is position over timing: you can smack the button like a madman, but must be very careful to manage your own position relative to the boss to land hits without contact damage. Reaper is timing over position: you can hit from a more forgiving distance, but the slower attacks and inertia-killing pogo mean you have to time your taps well since a missed tap means totally missing your attack window.I like that balance. Those two extremes with Hunter in the middle feel like a reasonable “playstyle spectrum”. I’m just saying they should also have similar DPS considerations:>Wanderer gets crits so quick spamming yields higher damage over time due to random procs>Hunter gets the damage stack so a moderate, even flow racks up additional damage>Reaper should get single shot damage buffs to account for its more methodical play.If it feels borked having one crest just get a flat damage buff, you could either>only have the damage buff when it yields silk dropsOr>give it a tipper hitbox so you do crit damage if you hit at the very outside of its melee rangeActually that latter seems like a really cool addition and would fit the Reaper playstyle. Someone mod that shit in.
>>720807890I see what you mean. I just don't think any bosses are hyper enough that the slower attack speed matters for actually hitting it
>>720807360>Damn fire is almost a 2x DPS?Yeah it's pretty good. It's a damage buff mixed with a status aliment. The fire DoT helps a lot.I think flintslate may actually be worse with poison because the fire procs faster and seems to do more damage per hit.
just beat last judge, I disliked the fire whirl attackplease tell me "dude just wait it out lmao" attacks don't become common
>>720808089actually not that many
>>720807212if you care about pokedex completion id recommend doing everything you can for it in act 2 to minimise the amount you need to do in act 3
>>720808185goodygreat game so far btw
>>720807016There is a mod for boss HP and damage dealt, why the hell are you talking about hits to kill as measurement of damage?https://rentry.org/silksongdamage>>720808089There is a fair share of turn-based bosses, but not to the point of them being common, unless you're bad then you'll interpret a lot of bosses as being turn-based when they're not.
>>720808089I'm fairly sure you can just use Cross Stitch against the fire whirls.
>>720808437while I am bad at the video game, I can fully understand the difference between attacks that have weird patterns and I'm just not gud enough to get close safely, and a screen-filling attack that I can't even dash through>>720808489I don't know what that is, which means it's niche enough that it doesn't count as a "haha just do this"
>>720808437>why the hell are you talking about hits to kill as measurement of damageBecause that's what matters? If a mod tells me I do 1.3x damage but I still need 7 hits to beat an enemy that took 7 hits to beat with the "lower damage" crest, the mod is very clearly lying
>>720808551>I don't know what that is, which means it's nichelollmao
>>720808632you le epically bragging about how you found whatever that is is further proof that it's a niche tool most players wouldn't have found and shouldn't be considered when discussing last judgeimagine being bad enough to need a specific tool to beat him LMAOanyway I already heard all I need, I'm out
>>720808697>bragging about how you found whatever>foundlollmao
>>720802941It doesnt even hit half the bosses in the game that fly
meleeGODS, it feels good to have beaten the game without training wheels, i hope our lessers will one day experience this joy
>>720805795Mashing attack as fast as possible will get you a party here and there but you will still get killed by hard bosses if you just stand there and swing. The window isn't that generous.t. I do that
>>720802941I never found those. I beat the game I guess? Saw credits roll. That's all that matters.
I just realized that the Beast pogo really isn't that different from Hunter, it goes to your bottom right or left, the animation just looks weird and throws people off
Is there another nail upgrade after the gourmand quest? I'm up to where it says "hivenest steel" or something
>>720808887if the pin man says come back with more oil there's more oil
Witch CrestInjector BandMultibinderClaw MirrorWarding BellsYep, it's nuke everything with my heal time
>>720808927it seemed like witch and multibinder didn't work the way I expected
>>720808907He did indeed say come back with more oil, thanks for the answer. He started charging rosaries for the upgrade too, I assume the next one will also be with rosaries, guess it's time to grind for those again
How are you supposed to do 100% completion if the game doesn't give hints to what's missing?I don't want to use the online map.
>>720809081you get an item that gives hints to what's missing
>>720809146
>>720809146Yes I have this, but it doesn't help at all. Some of the items it says do not count to the 100%. And the map is so big, how are you supposed to locate what you missed on the way?That's retarded.Did you use the online map?
>>720809213I haven't got 100% yet I probably will because I missed one spool
>>720809326This game is so stupid. I don't want to use a map, and there is nothing to help us. Why is the metroidvania with the one of the biggest map is the only one to not have hints?Eh forget it, I'm not even gonna bother doing the 100%.
>>720809415>This game is so stupidName one game where 100%ing it is fun and not a stupid slog that doesn't feel rewardingI hope all completionistniggers have a horrible time
>>720807890How about something like a reverse Hunter-lite buff?>Reaper charges over time if it doesn't hit an enemy>should charge quickly so you can use it quickly, but not so fast that it encourages spamming, maybe 2 seconds?>hitting an enemy makes that attack do 1.5x damage and loses the charge>an uncharged hit still does normal damage, should be encouraged to make slow methodical his, not punished for not doing so
>>720809446Uh, yeah most of the games released in the last decade either says if you haven't clean a room entirely or if you're missing something in a zone.This is more interesting.
>>720803439100% not indian
>>720809613>couldn't name one game where 100%ing is actually fun>instead deflects to "a-at least it's easier to mindnumbingly clear the whole map in other games"Completionistniggers are mentally illI hope devs keep making it more and more annoying to 100% their shit
>>720809665Why are you so defensive? Okay fun games to 100%: Nine sols, Ender lillies (haven't done 2nd game yet), even pseudoregalia if you like 3D.Most people wants to do 100% if it's well implemented.
>>720809761>Most people wants to do 100%hahahahahahahahano, your mental illness is a vanishingly small minority
there is 0 reason to ever fight any enemy
>>720809924it's funthe reward is the fight itself
>>720809446>one game where 100%ing it is fun and not a stupid slogBoth Curse of the Moon games, Blue Fire, Corn Kidz, any of the Momodora games that I 100%'d multiple times.Ender Lilies had only a teeny tiny bit of slog,
>>720809857I just asked a question man over a video game. You're the one reacting so strongly, you're actually raging over what someone on the internet. Bro take your pills, it's urgent.
>>720809984you said """""""""""""""most people"""""""""""""""" want to 100% the games you said are fun to 100%you are objectively lyingdevs will make games harder and harder to 100% to prey on your mental illness, and you are too insane to realize you aren't even having funno more (you)s since you will backpedal and cope
>>720805714I ran with Hunter for most of the game, using Longclaw, Silkspeed Anklets, Volt Filament, Injector Band, Weighted Belt, Magnetite Dice, Silkshot (True), Flintslate, and Cross Stitch.Longclaw and Silkspeed Anklets I wanted on every loadout.Volt Filament increases the damage of Cross Stitch, which is an incredibly powerful defensive option.Magnetite Dice and Weighted Belt are for utility because yellows suck.Injector Bands keep me from getting whacked while binding.Silkshot is so fucking good it's unreal. I love blasting shit with my magnum, especially those annoying enemies that play keep away or enter ten epoch-long riposte combos, like Reeds. Flintslate is for when I need to hit the enemy harder with my needle.Shit works out pretty well.
>>720810159>Silkspeed AnkletsWaste of silk unless you're doing deliveries imo.
>>720810232I like to move fast. And when I'm doing deliveries I'm moving SLOW, not fast. Gotta protect the cargo from stupid bullshit, especially running into walls. The rasher is the exception.
>>720803742>>720803818We don't know nothin' 'bout no poison damage.
>>720810106You are literally insane, man. I'm not joking about these pills. I took a break and you're still being so mad lmao.It's even funnier that you got triggered so hard on something so mundane as 100% a video game.And that's exactly why I asked the question earlier whether the game helps you 100% or not, and this game does not therefore I'm not doing, that's as simple as that. So stop getting so mad, you're just going to die young.
>>720810106By the way, do you have a heart attack when you look at something like my pic?
>>720811478no loleveryone on PC is a cheating faggot
>>720811778do steamcucks really?
>>720811778What about these two: >https://psnprofiles.com/leaderboard>https://x.com/anniefuchsia/status/1815832664622207473Okay I already heard about people playing the same account for the PSN trophies, but surely that's not all the leaderboard.But the second link, yeah you'll probably throw an unhinge fit. I mean, if completion and achievements are a waste of time, what about the same... in a 20 years old mmo?
>>720810445>The rasher is the exception.I keep hearing about this, and every time I'm like "oh, a rasher of bacon?"
>>720812218>nigga follows some ugly fat streamer because she 100%ed a game
>>720812218>posts proof that achievements hunters are mentally illwhat do you want me to say?
Why do people complain about the difficulty in SS so much? There are much harder MV's like GRIME. Or are the complainers all tourists and SS is their first MV?
>>720812476It's the internet man, I don't follow her but I heard of this when she did it. >>720812491How are they ill exactly? First link is just a bunch of people so arguably it's better than people doing it on their own. Is the second really mentally ill? She's a better situation than most people here. Literally playing video games for a living.You don't get mad anymore? Do you only get mad when it's about silksong? Just asking.
>>720812657hollow knight and silksong are normie friendly
>>720812710>I-I don't even follow her, now stop insulting my e-wife!!!
>>720805512>reaper crest>land a critical
I FINALLY GOT YOU YOU SLIPPERY LITTLE COCKSUCKER LET'S SEE YOU HOP AROUND NOW
>>720812710why are you obsessed whit a WoW whore?
>>720812929>>720813135So you ARE mad that it's about silksong, lmaoooooo. Fucking cultists are there.
>>720803693It's very good with poison because enemies don't always trigger all the tacks so the ones that stay will trigger poison again when the enemy inevitably touches oneI have had one throw of tacks trigger poison like 4 times before
>>720805714ok for avoiding some fast boss dash moves, garbage for damage since it won't hit them but at least the boss will have dashed past you and you won't get contact damagesomeone had a video of using beast crest and the parry skill to just burst down beastfly 2 with minimal pogoing or dodging
Is it worth getting the Architect Key from that one NPC in the Underworks?
>>720813342You get the Architect crest which to me is the best crest.
>>720813342You get a crest from that key
>>720809446BASED
>>720813342yesit will be either your favorite crest or something you won't use at all
>>720813342you get it just by buying anything from him, it's almost inevitable you'll get it
>>720812998best fight in the game imo
>>720813579That's not Widow.
>>720813518It's a she.What the fuck man, why are people calling every fucking female NPC in this game a he/him, pisses me the fuck off.
>>720813643People are calling Sherma a she.
>>720813643seethe more leftoid
Wanderer should have been a starter crest along with Hunter. It's just the Knight's moveset and Hornet already knows it well because he beat her up with it twice.
>>720808887there's three oils in the gamefound in the citadel through the whispering vaultsgourmand questfind all fleas and beat all minigamesi think the 3rd and 4th upgrades also cost 500 and 900 beads respectively but i may be misremembering
>>720813746everyone gets caught by the shermale twink trap
>>720814058I stumbled into the choral spa last night. Had to listen to Sherma's suggestive moans and giggles while I went throught the tunnels, and it made me a little hot and bothered. All of this "Sherma's ackshually a boy!" stuff is memes and lies, I refuse to believe it.
>>720814619Wait shit wrong image
Why does everyone say that the boomerang is OP? It’s damage and speed fler like shit to me compared to three fold pin
>>720814738Some people don't look up tools and do sequence break jumps to get them, which means they only have the boomerang for act 1
>>720804375Bo since you need the flea charm that makes spells cheaper at max hp and you need to land hits to gain soul without taking damage so it only solves regular enemy fights
>>720804861It’s not even good though quite franklyHunter, Wanderer, Witch, Beast, Architect, and Wanderer deal more damage
>>720814927What about Wanderer?
>>720803808yes, and it remains garbage once you unlock wanderer
>>720814927It's got the best pogo in the game though and that's what really matters.>muh wanderer >muh dpsSorry I can't hear you over the sound of having the safest pogo in the game.
>>720805512It does have higher attack speed but most patterns can only be punished with 1-2 attacks anyway regardless of crests, it only matters for phase changes and staggers
Did anyone else kinda assume that "the wanderer" was meant to be the playable knight from the first game?
>>720815145>best = safestshitter
How exactly does the Hunters focus mechanic work?How quickly does it run out? How fast do you stack it? What is the damage limit?
>>720815369It doesn't run out, it resets when you get hitTakes like 10 hits or something to build up, as long as you don't get hit you keep that x2 damage
Reaper and Wanderer are definitely top tier but the Hunter pogo is simply too fun and slick for me to not git gud with. Maybe I’ll focus more on the other crests in a later run.
>>720815775I feel like Hunter pogo has more iframes, and leaves you in better positioning after the bounce. Like, during the first Savage Beastfly fight, even when I was directly at the boss level, not above it, I could do a dive attack into its charge and not take damage.
>>720804687I thought that I had messed up by not finding a bench closer to the bilewater bossroom before I beat it, only to realize that you're practically forced to get maggots if you want to get out of the room and go on to the boss.
>>720814841If you get all 3 silk hearts early and get the silk dart skill, you could theoretically just dodge everything and spam forever if you never get hit
>>720816024there is a bench, I found it after
by the time that you master a fight enough to finish it, tools are irrelevant. The whole game is "dodge dodge dodge.... okay I have a second to attack safely on this pattern!" repeat until the boss is dead. Damage and health is pretty irrelevant because boss health pools are so deep that there's little chance that you're just going to spam them down
>>720806687in act 3 wormways also arguably has a boss even if it's vile dogshit
>>720816186>The whole game is "dodge dodge dodge.... okay I have a second to attack safely on this pattern!" repeat until the boss is deadFucking kino. Any more games like this?
>>720815775same, I love that poke especially in Lace and Phantom fights
>>720816237
>>720815145Witch's pogo hits twice and has iframes
>>720816186tools are good for killing summons and half of duo bosses
>>720815957I can see that. The way it hits things almost directly in front of you can be a good way to get out of a jam. It’s like what the Beast pogo wants to be without the awkward jump it starts out with—if it moved in a much narrower arc that went high and tight I think it would be better.Still, I love pogoing repeatedly with the Hunter crest, going back and forth in a V-shape. So satisfying.
Do I have to do something like get 100 points in Loddie's game for anything special? I got to 35 in his final challenge and got 117 rosaries from it
>>720815957This is true for all pogos, they all have very generous hitboxes and usually give you iframes if you're hitting something. You notice it more on hunter cause it moves you towards what you're attackingI have had plenty of situation where my hunter pogo clipped me right into a boss and I took damage, for example on last judge after he crashes down and the floor explodes
>>720816391I always just found them distracting; however, I did find the charge attack SUPER useful despite /v/ shitting on it. It basically doubled the speed of fights for me
Reaper is the most FUN crest. This is objective truth
>>720816492charged attack is great, even if the Reaper one is better
>>720816563I only use the normal crest, whatever that one is called. I found the hollow knight crest to make attacks too slow, so I just got used to the diagonal pogo
If I beat the game, did I beat the game?
>>720816658>dude who can't even remember a single item in the game he played also thinks the attack spam crest is slower somehowYeah your opinion is definitely worth considering
>>720816720Isn't the attack slower on the other crests? that was my impression when I tried them out
So, this is supposed to just not be fun, right? It's like Team Cherry's meta-commentary on how trying to do everything in a game is a joyless waste of time that ruins the experience? Their version of the Golden Korok turd? Because there's absolutely nothing redeeming about this fight. I hate all of it. I hate the runback, I hate the gauntlet, I hate the boss itself.
>>720816914on the bright side, it never gets worse than this
>>720803479Thank God for that. I could be crazy, but I think the poison charm actually nerf the damage.
>>720816914i actually kinda liked the boss itself ignoring the runback. Just felt nice to have a mostly stationary boss that rewards pogoing for once instead of all the dodging and countering all other bosses do.The game needed more big bosses in that vein like Fourth Chorus at the beginning
>>720817024>Poison charmHow much damage does a tick of poison actually do? There's no way it is the same as one nail hit
Yeah I use architect and tool spam when I'm really truly done with a boss for some reason and don't care for the fight itself. I learned my lesson about skipping good fights with tools when i accidentally wasted first sinner and realized i deprived myself of a fun fight.
>>720817098no one knows anything
>>720816914
>>720817082I thought this too but it actually doesn't.>can arbitrarily choose to dive, which makes it swing upward into you for two contact damageeven pogoing on it consistently is not a safe play.
So... what do silk hearts actually do..?
>>720817141Why not just use tools that buff yourself like the orange juice and the flame sword?
>>720817371you automatically regen 1 silk + 1 more for each silk heart you have
>>720817371Lets you regenerate silk within your shellFucking zoomies really are too braindead to notice when their silk autoregens
>>720817453>>720817421so effectively it reduces the cost of everything by one silk tick per heart?
Wouldn't it be cool if after completing the game, the game would give you an option to start the game with any crest you have encountered?You get half the crests only quite late into the game and at that point i was personally too accustomed to Hunters to adjust my playstyle for all the difficult bosses
>>720817513no not really but I guess if you wait 10 minutes yes
>>720817513No, it only regens if you're at 0 which probably happens very rarely to you in the later bits
>>720817408I do that sometimes when I'm running hunter and want to really go crazy but I think of that as being different from Architect which is just a pay to win section skip crest as far as I'm concerned.
>>720817615When I do my steel soul run you better believe I'm going to main Architect.
>>720805391huh?
>>720817523Yeah Silksong I think would actually benefit from a kind of new game plus so you can experiment more with the different crests’ playstyles before running out of places to use them. At least we’ll get to use them against old bosses in the pantheons.
>>720817579>it only happens at 0what the fuck? so it's pretty useless then
>>720817834Imagine if they had truly made it a DLC and you could style on the entirety of HK1 with Hornet's moveset
>>720817909Wasn't that the original idea with hornet but they just decided to make an entire game instead?
>>720802941Filtered journos use those. I beat the whole game without using tools cuz i found them cumbersome. If you havent beat the game yet you should transition and go play cozy games
>>720817909>dlc becomes game>original idea becomes dlc for the dlc that became a game
>>720817523yes, they should. I would love to try the other crests throughout the entire game. Maybe you should leave a comment on reddit and the devs might see it and add the feature
>>720817946Yep, that's why I said "truly" make it a DLC :)
Multiplayer mod where Hornet player hunts down Knights in the hk map
>>720817901it's so you can continuously use clawgrip even when low on silk in platforming areas
>>720816914He took me two tries bro, he's not that hard. I had the double jump already, just do that if you're having trouble
>>720813643what evidence do you have for the Architects gender?
>>720818075Can't imagine it'd be too long. That and a randomizer.
>>720817909My biggest wish for DLC is a kanto-style return to Hallownest, where it’s roughly the same size as the prior game but changed in certain places. There would probably be small settlements scattered throughout like Pharloom now that the infection is gone, or maybe Hornet has to deal with another faction of cultists trying to establish a new order in the region under one of the old deities. Would be even better if some of the new cast follow her and you can find them in certain places in Hallownest.
>>720816914It's like the worst aspects of the combat all rolled into one single entity>2 masks contact damage>constantly flying away from you>RNG on attack patterns can put you into unavoidable damage>summons adds>poisonThis is the first time in 50 hours that I've lost the fire for a boss. I just want it to be over. Is there a cheese strat? Is there some tool I can abuse to melt him? I've been doing nail-only for most fights but this one I just don't care if I ruin the experience for myself. I just want it to be done and never do it again.
>>720818538he can't hit you if you're in the maggots apparently
I'm seriously considering dropping this game. The citadel is absolute garbage.
>>720818538I stuck with straight line pins and spike shards for a majority of my playthrough, which were pretty good for hitting him ranged. It actually only took me two tries once I finally made it to the bastard (three because I died to the mob beforehand first time).
>>720818651>stuck>with pins and spikesheh I get it
>>720818424Yeah I'm pretty sure there was already a hollow knight randomizer + multiplayer mod. Just need to slap hornet in there. Perhaps unity is more complicated than I assume though.
>>720818635The citadel is like a third of the entire map anon. That doesn't narrow it down much.
>>720818913Wrong, only the rafters with the chandeliers and the broken elevator are the citadel
>>720818594I don't even believe that. He dives into them as a regular pattern. One of you retards also said that First Sinner doesn't do contact damage.
>>720818635stuck in underworks?
Is this area a secret? Is it tied to act 3 because I can't break it down.>>720818635Citadel's cool, other than that gauntlet but you can fuck off and get a more powerful needle to make it a lot easier.
>>720818962kek
>>720818998yes that's act 3 stuff
>>720818635Poison cogfly and conch, stay in the right pool.
>>720819083Cool. I believe I'm about to start act 3 anyway, the guy at the citadel camp is telling me of another way and offering a wish.
starting act3 can cut you off from some rooms
>>720818913>>720818975beat the two dancers, went to the left with all the water slides. Found a le epic secret (a box of shards), got bum rushed by a mob and I just wonder why I'm doing this to myself when it isn't fun. Exploring the map isn't fun. Every enemy is a sponge and/or flies. This game just feels like a tedious chore.
You can really tell which people are just rushing through the game and didn't talk to a certain NPC in Bellhart after freeing it
>>720819090Is that meant for me bitching about Groal?
>>720819181probably should have done high halls last l m a o
>>720819181Get more upgrades, tools, mask pieces. That area can be rough without the proper upgrades.
>>720819391or just stop bothering with the game altogether I guess. It's a shame, I wanted to like this game. But it feels like a step down in most regards.
>>720816914You can comeback late with more masks and nail upgrades/tools; By himself he is not that hard the issue are the prior arena fight and the ads as always.The real issue with the game is that everything is that everything is locked behind a Path of Pain ite platforming challenge, it gets repetitive after a while.
>>720819503The game also teaches you wrong as a joke in act 1, there is never a "explore this and become vastly more powerful" moment, the biggest power boost is from following the main progression until you beat Widow
>>720816914Isn't there a way to cheese this guy?
>>720819445Nah, fuck it. I'm not having fun and didn't have fun for hours now. Game should've remained as HK DLC instead of being its own thing.
>>720819746I don't agree on this particular game but yeah man, drop a game whenever it stops being fun. There's literally thousands of other games to play, don't waste your time with some shit you don't like just because everyone tells you it's goodHope you at least had a good time in act 1
I used that other trap item that Hornet used in her second boss fight in HK and that alone already felt like cheating at times
>>720820468It does like one nail hit worth of damage when all its attacks hit, shit's terrible
>>720819746Fair enough. I came close to dropping it as well, still might if what if I've heard about the endgame being real.
>>720802941>"You didn't beat the game."
>>720804038>>720804159>HunterDecent moveset, gimmick is kinda just "win more">ReaperTied for best moveset in the game (only problem is speed), gimmick is somewhat useful>WandererTied for best moveset in the game (only problem is size), gimmick is somewhat useful (slots suck ass though)>BeastWould be a great moveset if not for that ass pogo, gimmick is really fun to do right but situational (need good windows)>WitchReally great moveset, gimmick is really fun to do right but situational (need good windows)>ArchitectDon't see many people talk about it, but I LOVE the moveset, even the wonky chargable pogo, gimmick is top tier cause tools are OP>ShamanReally great moveset, haven't tried enough with the spells to know how good the gimmick is, but I can see the potential fun of itIt's crazy how good all the crests are in their own ways. I hope they add even more for the DLC/content updates. I want one that gives us a Pinstress/Second Sentinel style with a "second needle" (maybe made out of silk or something) that's all about the basic attacks.
>>720816914I feel absolutely nothing. No excitement, no joy, not even relief. I'm still just mad. I'm mad that I had to do it. All I've gained by beating this fucker is the right to come on /v/ and say>This was completely shitBecause it was shit. Worst part of the game bar none, by far. This will be the That Part that makes me not replay Silksong, I can already tell.
>>720820992I want to see Hornet work past her daddy issues and be rewarded for it with that unused Pale King crest in the game's files.
>>720820992>Don't see many people talk about itLiterally everybody always mentions how architect breaks the game
>>720802941If the boss gets to>make the floor hazardous>summon minions>shit out projectile after projectile-then turnabout is fair play. I beat the game.
>>720820628yeah but I can spam it and use it during exploration while retreating without having to aim, or on further attempts on gauntlets to deal a bunch of damage to whoever is going to spawn in at once
>>720821176No, I mean I don't see people talk about Architect's moveset.Obviously everyone praises how strong it is with the tool spam. But I personally really love the drill attacks. They're like Wanderer in how narrow they are, but they're longer and multi-hit which just feels really nice (and i think helps with parrying? may be placebo). The charge attack is my favorite of all the charge attacks too, it does nutso damage in a really good area.I tend to use it normally without tools for the early parts of boss fights and only break out the spam when in the final phases.
>>720820992>>720821176No one brings up architect because they either havent reached it or is aware of how tedious it is given you have to actively engage in resource grinding if you fuck up against the bosses enough which are designed to cause fuck ups.
>>720821385Good point, I'm gonna try out Architect without tool spam, like a truly sick fuck
>>720802941if you >used any tools or skills>upgraded damage>used anything but starter crest>didnt no hit 100% steelsoul + all optional secret bosses and passing of the age all under 10hrsyou did not actually beat the game
>>720821314>Spawning 4 of these buddies before the final wave of the Chorus fight with the two big dudes>The way they swarm the shit out of one and let you go to town on his ass so he dies fast and I can just calmly body the solo one
>>720821089>this nigga shaved years off his life due to stressing in a childrens bideo gamelmao
>reach seth>see that he constantly teleports and shields your attacks>so fed up with the game at this point that I just spam poison tools and call it a day because I wasn't in the mood for that bullshit>find out what his deal was later>feel insanely guiltyI'll do another playthrough and give him a proper duel, I swear it.
>>720821691>so fed up with the game at this point>I'll do another playthrough do zoomers really
>>720818818Well it had Archipelago randomizer support which helped, and I saw someone's trying to get Silksong set up for it at some point too. In just waiting for a "Tale of Two Wastelands" style combined map. That then has randomizer support.
>>720818962bottom left corner won't get hit by the dive or emerge
>>720818962>First Sinner doesn't do contact damageits much smaller than other bosses
>>720821089Based
>>720816914>>720821089i fell into bilewater from whispering vaults, wandered directly to this fight with no benches and cleared it on my first try.how does that make you feel
>>720819503I'm already fairly lategame, I'm doing the Act 2 cleanup to advance to Act 3. I assume the item I got after beating him is essential to that (it looks important), and that he's supposed to be one of the very last things you do in Act 2. I saved the bitch for the end on purpose and I STILL regret having done it.
>>720822370>and then everyone stood up and clappedgay larp, people who act like this game is easy make no sense to me.
>>720821314Where do I get this?
>>720822498anon, it's what happened. you need to accept that not everyone has the same struggles that you do.
Looking at these threads I realize that most people are using tools. I haven't used a tool all game. How hard am I gimping myself?
Just started this game; will I fuck myself over if I rush to wall climb without doing any side stuff
>>720822870You are gimping yourself but not badly. Tools become kinda eh though after Last Judge because he forces you into awkward defensive positions and the others dont really present that problem. You still have to learn the boss patterns anyway or you will get fucked because hitting with tools does not give you back silk and it is also attatched to a resource pool.
>>720822870Using tools for annoying and tanky flying foes seems like the intended way to play. Against bosses there's no shortcut, you still need to learn patterns at least somewhat good. These gauntlet fights are essentially solved by bursting down one or two foes with tools though
>>720822632High Halls
>>720824103>get boss to the final phase>put down 35 tacks and run away while throwing bombs>boss explodes
>>720823548Rushing the movement abilities is what I would do if I got a do-over. It's always 100% worth it.
>>720802941>Falls from the ceiling >Lands on bed of tacks>Screams>I Laugh my ass off every time
I just beat the cogwork dancers. How far into the game am I?
>>720826272Are you going to do Act 3?
>>720826272You're like 1/4th into Act 2. There's 3 Acts.
>>720824646Stuff like that would still require mostly beating the boss
>>720826379>>720826438Yeah, I'm going to do everything. I'm mostly curious about the size of the map, is act 2 really the same size as act 1?
>>720802941I've been using poison drones.
>>720826637Yes. The Citadel is huge, and there's many areas attached to it that you couldn't get to before.Act 3 isn't quite as large, but it does have a few new areas and plenty of new bosses and changes to go into.
>>720817947>cuz i found them cumbersomeu wot? if you want to brag about how they make the game too easy, fine, but finding them "cumbersome" makes it seem like you didn't use them because you're retarded
>>720826637The Citadel consists of multiple regions, it definitely is massive
On the map, just left of Sands of Karak's name, there is a tunnel up. How do I get in there?
Me right now
>>720827291>Pollip PouchYou didn't beat the game.
>>720827447Yeah I did. Bosses still take minutes with it anyway.
Name a better fight.
>>720802941they are very good but after the halfway point they kinda fall off because of flying enemies
Did people really struggle with the couriers rasher quest? That shit only took me like two attempts and I'm a shitterYou don't have to clear out the enemies nigga just run past like hello, are you retarded?
>>720827695Why are you dash jumping when it’s slower than just dashing
>>720827816Looks cool
>>720827886Fuck you *cums on your face*
>>720804159reaper is not as noob friendly as people think you are literally just exchange time compared to others.Its the slowest attack by far while wanderer can borderline facetank many bosses with attack spam and since attacks generate silk you get even more from that than even reaper after healing.
>>720827695>Just instant deletes youLmao Judge was really meant to be a real filter point. But seriously speaking First Sinner was a nice highly active fight I enjoyed a lot.
>>720804256>same faggot bitches about blight water, ducts and all the rest of it while people with a brain just swap the charm that cancels the maggotsretard
Can someone post a webm of their Groal clear
>>720827695widow, last sinner, TROBIOOOO
My favorite crest is Hunter cause the diagonal pogo is good since you’re always moving horizontally and the combo meter gets you more damage.
>>720822870considering you get dmg upgrades for both nail and tools, pretty badly.you can easily get ranged multi-hits in with tools on enemies when timed correctly.
>>720804687>bad runbacksthere literally is not a single runback that is longer than one minute
>>720828087
Is there a shortcut to Styx? What does he even give you?
>>720828020
>>720828291Based
>>720828156yep and thats bascially the worst it getspeople bitching online about 15minute runbacks are straight up lying in their own footage even shit tier gamers usually reach their goal after a minute or two and thats in the worst areas like bilewater and sands of bullshit
>>720828262Silkeaters. So if you suck, die a lot and have trouble with corpse runs, you can have those as a back up. They ALSO give you silk even when you don't have a corpse. So if you need an emergency heal, Silkeater. If you think you need to hit a boss with a Silk skill to kill it. Silkeater.The shortcut is in Graymoor. Should be easy to find out where.
>>720828291yeah had that bug/invincible enemy stuff happen to me once in my 50 hours 100% game thankfully not in that shit bossfight
>>720828447THERE'S A SHORTCUT???
>>720828447I think he didn’t give me one cause I found one at the top of the windmill in Greymoor.
>>720816914It's not *that* bad. My problem with Groal as a boss is that he is too risky to engage with as much as I would like. I used the wall cling tool to hang in the top corner to avoid spit and dashed in for 2-3 hits when he inhaled. Spammed longpins when he started his alternate projectile attacks. I dunno. It was a little boring aside from the threat of a runback (which I had to do maybe ~5 times).
>>720828695I don't know what triggers him giving you a silkeater, but there is a courier quest to give him another silkeater egg to speed it up. Just check back after every so often and he should have one.
>>720828691Yup, possible to get with just the wall cling, no need for double jump. Very satisfied when I realized I saw it in the metal heap right before his lair.
>>720828902Neato.
>>720828398Bilewater runback takes a long fucking time because you are practically guaranteed to touch the maggots then have to farm silk to heal it.Boss is a joke with drones and there is no point doing it before having them.
>>720828014It doesn't cancel maggots, it blocks 1 hit between bench visits. It's completely pointless and it's in one of the last places you can get to.
>>720828156Nigger there is a bench in the sands of karak
I have a crucial question: Were there any gravesites in Deepnest or Weaver’s Den?
>>720830623I don’t think so? Closest that comes to mind is Herrah’s tomb, or at least that’s what it becomes once you break the seal.I suppose you could also count Galien’s corpse.
People say there's plenty of Craftmetal in the game, and that they even finished with a spare. But I'm so fucking starved for Craftmetal it's unreal. I'm up to High Halls, but it looks like progress. So I tried Karak, but I can't seem to progress there even with double jump. And... Bilewater and Putrified Ducts.
>>720830406It’s worse by a lot.
HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT LOST LACE? THIS IS FUCKING CANCER. JUST GIVE ME A CHEESE STRAT AT THIS POINT SO I CAN NEVER PLAY THIS GAME AGAIN
>>720803897>whenever you fully unlock all the slots on any crestTHAT's what "expanding your essence" or whatever means?! I'm sitting on like 10 memory lockets, because I don't use any of the other weapons so I never saw a reason to upgrade them. I thought it was tied to story progress or health upgrades or something.
>>720806657Any hint for where the whiteward key is? I'm at 97% and it's doing my head in
>>720827695TROBIOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>720831357There's craftmetal to spare? I've explored just about everything and had exactly enough, but then i also missed two memory lockets until i looked them up at tricky locations. I wish more games like these would go the route of abundance. I like secrets and hidden things, but it shouldn't be required to find almost every little nook and cranny
>>720813638You're right, Widow is not the best fight in the game.
>>720830032you actually dont have to do that, thats just you being uninformed.Before the boss battle there is a hidden room that stocks up your silk so you can get rid of the maggots not to mention that if you die once in the boss fight you have a cocon that fills up your entire silk in the bossroom to remove maggots.The older i get the more i see how gamers are just stupid and angry at themselves almost all the games they bitch about provide them with solutions but they stupernly refuse to adabte or change anything in how they approach the situations even if the game literally spells it out for them.
>>720831550What attacks are you struggling with the most? Do you often get caught by the parry, the anti air or the shadow attacks? For the parry you really have to condition yourself to jump out of it since you can dodge even the air parry with a double jump easily.Avoiding the anti-air is challenging but it helps to understand when she's able to do it in the first place. When she does her long charge attack, she will do it twice in a row and at that point can either do it a third time or lead with the anti-air or aerial tendrils instead
Boy seeing Hunter's March discourse is a good way to tell who is fucking terrible at video games
The beast crest is the best turn your brain off crest against any boss that isn't extremely nimble.Fleabrew, beast mode and just facetank the boss as you trade hits until it's dead.Especially good with the tool that makes you heal by 4 instead of 3 masks.
>>720831996I get caught constantly by the diagnal air combo she does after dodging her ground attacks it constantly catches me. I really struggle with the anti air gameplay she pursues
>>720804484>do one run around a zone>able to buy 50+ talismans >now have enough for another 10 or more boss attemptsnah silksongs is way more aids with it's rosary grind for shard bundles
>>720832051eh to be fair the red berry or what ever the fuck they are have literally the smallest possible hitbox for pogoing out of all the pogo stuff in the game, team cherry was retarded to use them in a early game reachable place while the entire cidadell has you pogoing on stuff that has literally 4 times the hitbox.
>>720830342t. Never used it. It grants timed immunity to maggots. You can fall into a puddle and hop out multiple times consequence-free. It will EVENTUALLY run out and need bench repair but it buys you way more than one error. It’s basically mandatory for the Groal runback.
>>720832063Basically the best way to avoid it is to only jump when you know what attack is coming up, so it's better to condition yourself to run away after an attack instead of jumping unless it's the more telegraphed sweeping attack.And again, for the sweeping attack you always wanna count till two and be prepared for her to do the aerial as a mixup. I generally pogo her on the first and third sweep only to avoid the risk of being caught
>>720831554Who's Eva? Expanding essence? Is that something in act 2 that I haven't found yet, or something early that I'm forgetting?
>>720832429It’s in a secret area you open by playing the Needolin. I think it’s technically accessible as soon as you have that.
silly mspaint dlc idea
So will Hornet and Lace be more like "sisters" as the ending name implies or would they end up in more of a "partnership" type situation?
>>720832521visit the starting area again.Yes, you could've gone there a long time ago
>>720832521Where? I probably overlooked it. Is it marked on the map somehow?
>>720832429There's a Needolin door back in the first area of the game. There's multiple things to get there, including an NPC that will upgrade your Crests after you use enough Memory Lockets (well, upgrades the Hunter Crest, and gives you side crests that work for all crests)
>>720832642>>720832729Ohh you mean that locked door in the chapel? That's a Needolin door? Fuuuuuck.
>>720832680Light hint: do you remember the kinds of doors the Needolin opens? You used it to open one. See if there are any others you remember looking like thatHeavier hint: yes, the doors it can open are drawn on the map itself. They look like hallway-sized circles/ovals.Actual spoiler: it’s in the very beginning of the game, before Bone Bottom. The first door you ever saw
>>720832556Hornet sees Lace as a child and Lace would be dependant on Hornet to survive.Hornet is more or less adopting Lace.
>>720832845When you get the needolin you get a silk section that literally has you open one of these doors as a tutorial to progress, so normally you're supposed to go "huh where have i seen such a door before"
I recently 100% the game and I've been thinking about the routing for the "beat the game in 5 hours" achievementI would love to hear your opinionIsn't the hardest part about beating the game Moorwing, Sister Splinter without thread storm, and the High Halls gauntlet? I've thought a lot about it and these 3 seem to be the main filter. Moorwing can be skipped with fleas and it's probably worth since getting 5 is pretty quick and he doesn't drop a reward. That shouldn't even be much of a timelossThe high halls gauntlet can probably be cheesed with tools if route you visit the architect (which you will since you need the harpoon), get the cogflies with some craftmetal and route in the pollip heartBut how do you easily and consistently defeat Sister Splinter without thread storm? I used that spell to instakill her minions. The boss itself is piss easy, but I don't see how it's reasonable to kill them on 5 base hearts Maybe you could get the boomerang and pollip heart? Did anyone deal with sister splinters minions in an alternative way?And is there a fight I'm forgettingI dont know if I can be bothered to do the 100% speedrun achievements but I want to beat steel soul and do the 5 hour one
>>720828691I’ve been feeling this so much. Is there a HK-style upgrade that shows you map completion percentage? Some of these are awful and it’s hard to know when you should give up wall-humping an area. I don’t want to resort to looking up a completed map, I don’t need to know WHERE the secrets are, I just want to know when to stop/keep looking.
Finding Weavernest Alta and Eva as well as her lore was the coolest part of the game for me ngl I was super dissapointed that the other nests just don't have anything and aren't real areas
>>720830342its insane how confident you are about something you didnt us, it exactly doesnt work like that, its basically a bar and you cant get maggot fucked like 5 times before the charm breaks
>>720804861Love it but the one thing I utterly hate about it is its weird drag-into animation it does for the down pogo attack, way WAY too often am I pogo'ing over something and it moves up from an animation change, or an attack, or I'm just cutting it close with the imput, and that little drag downward animation pulls me into the enemy for contact damage.I get it's an effect to make it feel and look weighty but it FEELS LIKE SHIT.
>>720833150Consider how you can also skip Moorwing by going the Wormways route instead which would also skip far fields and save a LOT of time. You'd have to make do without the glider though
>>720817098By contrast, a fully upgraded needle deals 21
How much fan art is there of Grand Mother Silk now?
>>720804038I'm in act 2 and I don't have any of these crests people are talking about. am I retarded or what
>>720833365do you know the damage value of the fire blade buff?
>>720832845No, the one in the Ruined Chapel is story related and you'll get to it in Act 3.The Needolin door we're talking about is before even the Ruined Chapel. Literally start from the place the game started and look from there. You should find it no problem, it's kinda hard to miss the giant Weaver faced door.
>>72083351014 bonus damagehttps://rentry.org/silksongdamage
>>720817098It's like 2 damage whereas a fully upgraded nail swing is 21The architects charged attack is 120 lol, same with a full thread storm. A full rune rage deals 132 (I'm not sure if the spell numbers are with or without the shamans crest, I just heard the numbers in a vaccum) So even if the poison ticks 6 times it's basically nothing by the end game, it's really good for the early to mid gameIt still deals a decent amount of damage if you spam tools though. 50 ticks of 2 is still 100 damageBut it's the tools themselves that kill bosses, make no mistake
>>720833417One of them requires you to go to an off-beaten path but can be found quite earlyOne requires you to return to an area with an upgrade.However the third one is literally just there for grabs and although you can get the other two earlier, it's the one people generally find first
>>720802941the saw is a much better tool
>>720833417Crests are obtained by clearing Chapels, optional buildings you can enter (pressing up on a door). None are mandatory so if you’re pushing the game forward without exploring you won’t find a single one.The most popular crests areReaper in Greymoor, easiest to findWanderer to the left of bone bottom, you access via the bottom exit of Wormways, itself an optional areaArchitect get the chapel key from the NPC of the same name, requires owning enough tools before she’ll sell
>>720832556Hornet will have to feed Lace silk from her spider pussy every day from the rest of their lives so it's pretty intimate
Widow was a boring mediocre fight why did you lie to me?
>>720833291Wait, hes completely wrong? I don't have the maggot charm yet, so I believed it.>>720830342You're a piece of shit anon, fuck you. Not about the game, just that callous sort of "fuck everyone but me, if I can bullshit and lie, it's THEIR fault for believing it, I don't have to be right!". Sure sign of a nigger-tier personality. Fix yourself.
>>720833417>>720833703Actually, you can get Wanderer without going through the Wormways, just wall climb up from the wall in Ruined Chapel to get to the other side.
Silksong is the DS2 scholar of the first sin to HK's Dark Souls And that's a good thing!
>>720833150You can skip splinter entirely, look up taunt skip.
>>720802941I mean, it is really powerful but it doesn't even work on half the bosses since they're flying.
>>720809446KH2FM
Mistakes into miracles.
>>720833990I know of that skip actually but I don't want to speedrun the game with glitchesI'm willing to piss cheese the run if I'm going to do the entire game with 5-6 masks but I won't sequence break in unintended ways
>>720833990>>720834184It's basically just a shade skip from the first game but I still think it's a step too farDodging Moorwing is intended and can be done in 2 different legitimate waysTC themselves do not mind but I think it's a bit too cheap
This gauntlet is so obnoxious. What do I even get as a reward for this?
>>720834358It's mandatory your reward is main quest progression
>>720834358Progression.
>>720833587damn i expected way more considering how cool it looks how few charges you get and that it only lasts for like 5 seconds
>>720806847>And ironically it's just a nerfed Knight's movesetBut with Hornet's massively boosted speed and agility. It's actually really fun to use a worse version of Hollow Knight's weapon, while making up for it agility. Pure DEX. It's fun.
>>720834358use sawblades on those guys or get an npc to help you cheese the whole thing
>>720834358easiers way i have found is to fight the countlet until these two spawn and then just summon 4 poison cogflies and just hug the top left of the wall (they cant get you and the cogflies kill them for you or at least one of them)
>>720834562that's more than 50% damage increase dude. it's very insane with wanderer and might even go in [you didn't beat it] tier
>>720834358Beating the gameJust spam tools on one of them so you can fight 1 of them instead of 2. You can instakill one with tacks and that flying trap/cogfliesYou can also prep with flintslate, flea brew, plasmium hearts and other bullshit before they spawn and just wail on one of them to quickly get it out of the way. You could also just use two silk storms to fuck them up quicklyYou can actually fight them both without cheese if you play disciplined and don't panic. It's beatable with just your nail. Just don't jump like a spastic and stay in place unless you have to dodge the explosion. Don't go in a corner and stay in the middle between them, it's actually easier despite what you might thinkAlso focus on being full hp before they spawn in by being less greedy in the last two waves And most importantly, get good
>>720821089>Poison cogfliesSorry anon, I'm afraid you did not beat the game.
>>720834727its nothing compared to pretty much half the tools and you only get very few uses and it only lasts for like 5 seconds.You basically can only really use it on staggered enemies because in any other scenario you have to dodge around and jump around and after like two jumps or whatever the buff is gone
People will tell you that you didnt beat the game because you used cogflies while they used flea brew, fractured mask, magnetic dice, save and quit, flintslate, plasmium hearts, and the wanderers crest
Is there anything to the dice game you can play with the guy in Blasted Steps? I played a few rounds but didn't see anything more to it. Did I miss someting?
>>720821089it is a shit boss because of the ads but with that being said there is a very easy way to cheese it (right side in the water just stay there and none of the attacks of the boss (except his appearing from the ground move but that is easily avoided) or ads will hit you, yes you get maggots but that doesnt matter when nothing can hit you)
>>720835047nah but come back lateralso if you win a lot against him his name changes
>>720835047you can get something by either winning a lot of times in a row or by returning laterAfter a specific amount of seconds the die flashes. If you learn to throw it at exactly that timing you can win every time
90% of tools suck ass Take pimpillos for exampleThey are super hidden and super expensive so surely they are good, right?Nope! You get 6 uses that cost you 50 shards total and it doesn't even deal damage, aoe or single target The volt tool in the memorium cant hit a fucking enemy Etc EtcEtc The balance is so shit
>>720834562>>720834727Yeah this anon's right, 14 bonus damage is nuts. To put that in perspective, Unbreakable Strength was only 10 bonus damage. 14 is closer to Fury of the Fallen's 75%.
>>720835047yeah keep playing against him and you will get the dice... which are actually one of the better things from that category of tools and saved my ass a couple of times...
>>720809613This is what hurt Ender Magnolia. Every room tells you if you missed something so you can't ever feel like you found something.Much better game than Silksong but worse than its own predecessor.
>>720835253Oh man, are they like Carefree Melody? I LOVED Carefree Melody.
>>720835430They don't activate nearly as much but it's probably a 1/20 chance at least, maybe higher. You will notice it saving you some hits and since everything in this game is double damage that goes a long way
>>720833150I did the 5 hour Speedrun. I mostly followed the steam guide you can find if you google about routes, though I did go back to Bone Bottom to buy the Rosary magnet so I could get all the ones I could on the way. Save up your rosaries and only buy benches that you really feel are necessary and the Bellways (helpful for later transitioning to the 100% speedrun). You won't need maps if you're following a guide/have the full map open in a tab.You can buy 2 Craftmetal along the way and get 1 easily without losing any real time since it's on the path. With those you can get the Cogflies, and both buzzsaws from Twelfth Architect. Save up your rosaries and only buy benches that you really feel are necessary and the Bellways (helpful for later transitioning to the 100% speedrun). You won't need maps if you're following a guide/have the full map open in a tab.I would suggest cheesing with the saves also. You lose so much time refighting bosses. I backed up my save before each boss and reset it if the boss took me more than 10 minutes of refighting.
>>720835192you suck ass at using 90% of tools
grand mother silk is pure sex
Lost Lace makes me drop this game by 2 points. Fuck this entire game
>>720833150>>720835537For the bosses:Don't forget to drop the rocks on Fourth Chorus in Phase 2 like I did. Takes stupid long to kill normally.Moorwing isn't that bad. Just watch for the scream it does before it's little slicing move. If it screams, dash away for a second before going back in. Everything else can be safely avoided by just being in the air. To save on time (and just generally make things easier) get Reaper Crest on the way and go DIRECTLY to Moorwing after. Getting Reaper sets your respawn at the Chapel, so you'll be much closer for the runback.Sister Splinter is honestly a pushover when you get used to it. her normal move shouldn't hit you unless you're out of space and you can make space easily with the silk spear. It also instakills the mobs, just gotta fall back, line them up and plow. No need to go for anything extra.Trobbio is also hard with low health. Just have to learn to be super cautious whenever he throws out the balls. They can and will fuck you and do 2 damage on contact even.The High Halls one is really rough. Get all you can ready for it. You just need to take it slow and learn each of the enemies. Your silk spear is huge for chunking down them if you can line them up since they'll go down in 1-2 hits after. For the big guys, remember the upper wall corners are safe spots. Weave in your attacks between it's attacks and watch for the jumps. If you have space, always go under them cause that's free damage time. For the double bit at the end, you may not have room so just go hide in the corner till they give you a chance to hop over with the line dash. You wanna get one of them down ASAP cause dealing with a single one is honestly easy once you learn the moves.Also, once you get it done, it's very easy to transition it into your 100% speedrun. Just go to Mount Fay for the double jump, then start clearing the map from the ground up (get all the quests first from Songclave and Bone Bottom to save time).
>>720835553Tell me the use of delvers drill then smart guy
>>720835512Fuck yes. PLEASE tell me it's not a blue slot?
I've got two keys and three locations to use them>Key to guy's cell in Bilewater>Door in Deep Depths >Door above the High Halls gauntlet Which two should I do
>>720835706>Don't forget to drop the rocks on Fourth Chorus in Phase 2 like I didCan you give me a rundown? It's been a week since I last fought him and I just used my nail lol
did the final act of the game fall flat for anyone else? I honestly didn't give a single shit about Lace's character so the final encounters and ending did nothing for me, the game's story is kind of boring to be honest, it's like most people equate vagueness to good lore
>>720835894The door above the High Halls gauntlet is just a money room, use it for the other two.
>>720835706>For the big guys, remember the upper wall corners are safe spots.Is this even true? I went all the way to the top to try jump over them when they boxed me in but it seemed like I still got hit
>>720835892It's a yellow slot so it's no big deal, most crests give you 3 total so you can still have the compass and steady body for example It also ostensibly increases the crit rate of the wanderers crest
>>720835696They actually saved the worst for last, the fight is pure bullshit
>>720835995someone said there's a room somewhere in high halls to kill a nest of the silkstealing niggers to stop them from spawning, that isn't that room?
>>720836106I dont get this complaint. The fight wasnt particularly fun but it's literally just lace 2 with a twistJust watch out for the parry, don't pogo the second void dash and focus on dodging the ranged attacks. Her teleporting contact damage and aerial slash combo can be annoying but that's it really. The fight is very managable. I dont see how you can make it this far and struggle so much at the end
>>720836265No, its directly above that room, that side one one that has the movable cart in it.
>>720836284phase 3 you can hardly see shit.
>>720835921When he summons those air vents on the side, if you ride them all the way up, there's a rock with two exploding rocks on the sides. You have to ride each current to reach both sides, but if you take out the two exploding rocks the big rock falls on his head and instakills him.>>720836005Pretty sure the only thing they have that could possibly hit you in the upper right/left corners (like, literally climb the wall and be up in the top of those walls) is if they're directly below you and do their jump attack. Any distance back and the jump attack will arc shy of hitting that corner. The big explosion jump attack doesn't reach all the way up the wall, even if they land right at the edge of it.
>>720813643>>720813764it does sound like a girl and it's a robot, it's good practice to always think of robots as girls if there is even the slightest bit of evidence for it. Robots are like the inverse of people on the internet.
>>720836284Phase 3 is unplayable dogshit its POE2 tier terrible with not being able to see anything on the screen
>>720816024Healing removes maggots, you can farm silk before and after the shit room you have to pogo up. Which is why the run back is so awful and takes forever.
>>720836617The amount of optional shit in this game is unreal, I can’t believe I missed that
>>720836534>>720836710So assume that she's attacking you then and focus on her movementsAnd use cross stitch
Got all the fleas in act 2, what now?They are looking for a safe spot/cave but I think that's done?
>>720818426My biggest hope for DLC is hornet getting over her daddy issues. She's pretty logical and reasonable with most things but anything pale papa related puts her in the closest thing to hysterics she's capable of. Which is bad because he was actually pretty chill plus would probably be really proud of her so some dream fuckery closure would be nice.
>>720837086There is an exit in the memorium that leads you to a long platform that ends in a wallWhat is at the top of it?
That was actually... not too bad. I mean, it's a really nasty fight, and very overwhelming at first. But then I realized you can do massive damage from inside by getting eaten, and then heal back. You just gotta avoid all the other shit in the arena in between. Multibinder could've probably been useful here. By how much does it increase the heal? One mask, I guess?
>>720837338>By how much does it increase the heal? One mask, I guess?Yes. It heals you twice for 2 masks so it's twice as slow for 1 heart extra
>>720818426That's way too much content. Look at the updates HK got.>One update with a couple new bosses>One update that just added a bunch of lifeblood stuff>One update with a couple new bosses and story stuff (Grimm Troupe)>One major update with boss rush including new versions of all the bosses and some totally new bosses and new endingsI think we'll get about the same in Silksong. I think the Steel Assassins which were clearly cut out entirely will be brought back as the "Grimm Troupe" update of the game. Something you can do will set them off and the this group of Steel Assassins will start showing up in certain spots to fight Hornet, possibly leading to some crazy NKG style fight with a Steel God or something.
Now I just have to figure out what to do with this thing.
What is this thing that now occasionally happens when I strike an enemy? It's not the regular clash thing but seem more like a critical hit?
>>720812657The hype brought in a lot of people who never even played platformers before.
>>720820992Beast's pogo gives extra dash that makes some platforming easier. I wouldn't dismiss it so fast. It actually made the craw balloon jump and last judge runback bearable for me>>720821481By the time you get to architect, you kinda can just keep 20+ shard pack at all time. Plus, most tool spammer can win a boss fight without even having to learn how to fight the boss
>>720837554>more like a critical hit?That's what it is. Do you even read the descriptions of the crests you equip?
>>720808826retard
>>720837550You eat it kinda like a clam
>>720816071Silk heart + lantern makes you regen up to 4, which is exactly what is needed for a spell. It's basically a f2p version of architect
>>720837489>download DLC and start a new game>get attacked in the first bench
>>720837586Every pogo refreshes your dash and double jump lil bro
>>720837795I mean that when you pogo with beast you dash forward a bit.
>>720837489the coral zone being replaced with a fucking tower of goons is the most baffling choice they made with the game's development
>>720837795I think he means the forward lunge on the pogo animation itself adds horizontal air travel after the dash is used
>>720837710yeah im never full health anyways so that variant is probably better even if flea charm lets you theoretically spam more on full silk
>>720818818Equipment would need to be moved behind bosses and secrets instead of shops before you put in a randomizer.
>>720837986>>720837970Doesn't the hunters crest give you forward momentum as well?The reapers crest gives more height as well iirc
That's a lot of grindan.Are those only dropped by specific monsters? Or can any enemy drop them?
>>720837550You need it for later, don't worry about it for now. You'll know when it's needed.
I liked the snare, shit did lots of damage in a wide area and also got activated by flying niggas, sometimes a single one would nuke 3-4 enemies
>>720838449any enemy, you just need to finish them off with specific tools, enjoy your WoW quest
>>720838468Yeah, it's been really useful so far. Plus, it's Hornet's signature move from the first game.
>>720838560>enjoy your WoW questThese fetch quests really do feel out of place in a Hollow Knight game. Don't know why they thought it would be a good idea to implement those. I mean, there's still Souls-style quests, when NPC just tells you to go somewhere do something, or not even that, and you return later to find them fucking dead, but you can loo the sweet quest reward from their corpse.
>>720837147>pic related
>>720838724Team Cherry created a huge, complex world, and then they realized they had to put something to do in it so they panicked and made a bunch of filler quests and 20 million gauntlet rooms. my favorite one is when they ask you to collect 15 white rags, two thirds of the mobs that drop the rags fall into spike pits when they die
Finally beat True Lace. This is the first time Ive beaten a game and felt 0 satisfaction. Infact I wish I used tools more. The entire game is just a 7/10. Beautiful art, music is pretty good, ruined by tedium and bossfights that want you to do a hitless 100% no hit filth mode. I really hate when a game forces you into a certain playstyle and the presence of options seems almost arbitrary. Once I hit Act 3 I feel the game really overstayed it's welcome. The memory bosses were not good either. Kahn was a joke only took me 2 tries, flower bitch was annoying but wall grabbing made it not bad. Ant bitch was the worst boss Ive seen in a metroidvania game by far. Then there was True Lace who was ok the first 2 phases but phase 3 was just too much. This is a series that will likely continue to get worse as the devs and playerbase froth at the mouths for just boss fights that are designed for no hit run speedrun trannies. I feel like to many games are focusing on bosses and nothing else and this game isn't helping that. Overall I'm glad to be done with it and make it to the true end. Reaper Crest was the most fun to play with by far but I ended up using Hunter at the end.
>>720835192>Pimpillo doesn't deal damageIt does like twice a fully upgraded nails worth of damage. The AoE is large enough to catch things on the ground and directly above them. Yes it is expensive, yes you don't get a lot of them, but these are your emergency "I'm being crowded" button. You use these things on something that doesn't want to give you space, so you don't have to aim them. Or you throw them into Groal's mouth and have it deal 4x nail hit and watch him kill himself.
>>720837554When Wanderer has enough silk for a heal, the ability activates and it gets a 5% chance every hit to crit for 3x damage. Because it attacks so fast, this means you will generally build up enough silk and get 2 crits per boss, as long as you aren't immediately spending it to heal.Honestly the other crests should work the same way, Beast should get a passive life steal at full silk, even if the chance is only 1 in 10 hits. Reaper should generate silk orbs at full silk and they should stay around longer, so you want to make a lot, use silk skills and then go get them. They kind of dropped the ball with making those based on healing and going away either too quickly or when hit.
>>720837147I guess its just the fact that he wasn't around and decided messing with the Void was a better use of his time. Dude didn't just use it to make the Vessels, he used it as his guards. It wouldn't surprise me if we find out the King's Moulds eventually stopped listening to him and killed him.
