The post that silenced all graphics discussion on /v/ forever.
>>720811770You're right but damn do you really have to bend over and just take it like that?
>>720811770Lower settings? You are not BADASS enough, are you?
You get more FPS when the devs know how to optimize their game.
>>720812018show GPU
>>720811770Alright nigger, riddle me this, what would be better:ALL SETTINGS BADASS but 50% resolution orALL SETTINGS LOWEST but 100% resolutionI know the answer, do you?
>>720812071Those days are over, this is the dawn of running games at medium settings with your GPU fans sounding like a jet engine.
>>720811770From 30 to 35? Despite running the recommended requirements! Bless you Prahmajeet! Your programming is very good!
>>720811770>low settings 2025>still runs like shit>and looks worse than 2020 games
>>720811770100 fps native on a 5090 at 1080P is disgusting. Meme and bait all you want, but gaming is only going to get worse. Get ready for frame gen being used to go from 30fps to 60fps ala MH:Wilds specs and Wukong IIRC being the norm. Because boot lickers.
What if I want to run your jeetcoded AAA sloppa at 140 FPS on 4K on ultra/max graphics? What consumer hardware should I use to achieve this?You do play on 4K right? You're not poor right?
>>720812181more like 2010 games
>>720812106I can't show the inside of my pc here, this is a blue board
>>720812106now post yours, pedro
>>720811770This isn't even true. Most of the major uplifting settings aren't even user accessible. Slopdivers 2 immediately come to mind where there are a ton of hidden lighting and shadow settings that drastically improve performance. Setting texture detail from ULTRA HARDCORE GAMER DELUXE to potato doesn't do much for fps for instance.
>>720812293>cheaped out on the gpusadotherwise good rig
>>720812340unless you're out of memory, in which case it will triple it
>>720812293I don't need this to play silksong
>>720812071I don't even think this is true either. It's literally UE5. UE4 games were not nearly as bad as this current gen of games.
>>720812293LMAO. All that just to play Borderlands at 30 FPS.
based randy filtering out all the browns
>>720812293lmao
>>720811770The problem is you don't, actually. UE5 stutter can't be fixed with settings, it's universal no matter what you do
>>720812470kojima was going to save us from this timeline, but konami doomed us all
>>720812293I've got the same CPU but a 4080 Super. I use it to play older games at 360fps on my OLED. Modern games are low fps, low visibility, temporal smear garbage.
>>720812071Yeah but why should we have to? Just do it yourself, I got paid already.
>>720812346>cheaped out on the g-ACK
>>720811770My problem isn't the FPS but the egregious popin on UE5slop, and even when I put everything to low that shit still happens.
>>720812293hello 25fps-kun
>>720815653>literally buys the poorfags choice of GPU>proceeds to call everyone else spoorfaglollmao even
>>720815653>1080p
>>720812018How much electricity do you need to consume in order to trigger your dopamine?
>>720811770yougetmoreyoususingworserbait
>>720811770>drop all settings to low>still need DLSS to hit 120fps on a 5070
*forced RTX*
>>720815653FSR has terrible quality and is costly at 100%, and you can't use upscaling because the temporal reconstruction component is very shimmery and prone to fizzling. Then the other issue, FSR FG doesn't work the same way DLSS FG does, because the latter has a latency reduction technology built into it which makes FG usable and better than bruteforced framerate. With FSR FG, you'd mostly get the same, but all postprocessing would get interpolated, and the worst part, your camera movements would feel like slowmotion, due to AMD not doing any R&D on latency optimization while FG is active. Their antilag2 solution literally does not work with framegen itself. It will limit the GPU from ever reaching 100% utilization, but it won't be optimized for framegen itself. So yeah, you made a bad purchase, and your 69 FPS won't get you far when a Nvidia GPU from 2 generations ago will not only get better image quality, but also more stability, less latency and more frames.The 9800x3d is a good processor though. Granted, it'll never bottleneck a weak and featureless GPU like the 9070 XT but at least you've futureproofed yourself in that department.
>>720811770>yeah, just offset the developers laziness and incompetence by lowering settings and or paying for more tech>foreverwhat a retarded statement
>>720815961Wait, so there does not even exists a config able to run it in 60 fps?
>>720816282>noooooo my choices don't have drawbacks, I want graphical bloat AND good performanceYou are no better than a tranny dev.
>>720811770For certain games like Stellaris, no.Fps loss comes from pathing of your fleets that you literally doomstack.The fps loss is also proportional to the amount of gateways, wormholes, hyperlanes and jump drives since those give more pathing options for fleets.Fps loss also comes from the and billions of pops calculations per day.Graphics settings are almost irrelevant with regards to fps compared to the above.
>>720816324Nope, at least not without frame generation.
>>720816324not sure what low settings are benched at but people who have constructive things to suggest (like updating to a UE version that fixes Nanite's lag issues) say that the difference between high and low on the same resolution is 20%
>>720816263>this is your brain on nvidia juice
>>720811770>ygmfulsWhat did anon mean by this?
>>720811770It's not always the case though. Many games are cpu bound and regardless of visual quality will run mostly the same.
>>720816446Oh, and I also forgot to mention that certain megastructures also indirectly cause lag, with common examples being orbital habitats and hyper relays, both which the AI loves to spam if they are allowed.This is why genocidal regimes and becoming the galactic crisis is so popular, because the universe literally halts if you don't attempt to exterminate almost all life in it.
>>720817287>tfw the reapers were just trying to keep the frame rate up
>>720815989You haven't posted your specs, brownoid.
>>720811770show me the setting that switches from raytracing to rasteri don't care about puddles and shadows, i have an oled and i want 240 fps without ai slop
>>720811770shut the fuck up
>>720812018blurting "brown" when you don't have an argument just makes you look like the scum of whatever your ethnicity is supposed to be
>>720812018Have you tried not using brown thirdworlders to code your game?
>>720811770most of the UE5 stuttering is caused by stuff like texture streaming not being configured correctly by the developer, you could switch to ultra low settings and the game would still stutter
>>720812346nvidia is cheaping out on the housefire connectors
>>720816154free (you)s today...
>>720811770Okay, but how low is acceptable?
>>720811770My monitor caps out at 140fps. I'm just wasting my equipment by not having all the settings on ultra.
>>720816649That's my brain when I've done extensive research and come to conclusion that Nvidia is lightyears ahead ;)
>play serious sam 3/4>performance gets better at higher settings>lower settings just shift more of the graphical load to the CPU
>>720817829Just turn everything to minimum so you don't have to think about it, it's not like unperformant games look good anyway.
>>720817952so lightyears ahead that a 9070xt can tie a 5080 despite the latter's superior hardware
>>720811770If I can hear my PC then the game is doing something wrong.I'll upgrade my pc so it can do more before I can hear it.
>have the best possible hardware>still can't play at the highest settingsMake it make sense
>>720817490I don't need to because I don't derive my self esteem from a video game card, like you do.
>>720818164tune your clocks, voltages, power limits and fan speeds retard
>>720816324why do you think people are calling randy a faggotyou cannot run this game at max in 4k and get decent FPS no matter what is in your computeri guarantee you that BL4 was like 90% complete before the 5090 even came out, GB is genuinely just fucking retarded and incompetent
>>720818228no. I've done my once-a-decade upgrade and will not open my pc again other than to hoover the dust out.
just for referencepeople are dying on the hill of "every preset has to be perfectly viable with current hardware" when you could double your fps using medium presetIm not sure what they get out of it. It reinforces the insanity that studios have to arbitrarily limit what settings they allow the player to enable in game menus because they use the highest preset to indicate the game is unoptimized.
>>720818323retardyou do it by adjusting settings
>>720811770>just eat low quality food, then you can eat more foodbrilliant
>>720818483I don't adjust what I don't understand. If it works now then i'm happy with my nice quiet computer.
>>720818469>buy a car that the manufacturer says can reach 150mph>but dont do it, drive 50mph max okaylel
>>720811770i got a 4090. it's a 4k card. BL4 should run at 250fps at 1080p. i would get 90 at best. not that i care about the game, i just think the topic is funny.
>>720811770>be me>have a gpu that's 4 years old>4k monitor @ 60hz>lower settings to hit 60fps consistently >particle effects still make me drop down to sub 20 fps whenever dust, explosions, or whatever happensIt's kinda shit but I guess I get to see how pretty they look for a bit longer
>>720818302>you cannot run this game at max in 4k and get decent FPS no matter what is in your computergenuinelly asking. can you run any nu game in native 4k?
I remember a game that runs worse at lower settings for some reason, I think it was for the dynamic resolution
>>720816446That sounds more like an engine or cpu issue instead of gpu related. Similar issue in games like dwarf fortress.
I blame pajeets and only being able to produce spaghetti code
>>720811770I didn't spend 2k on a PC to not use ultra settings
>>720811770Better men do this
>>720818102Raw FPS doesn't mean anything. It's like comparing two runway models, one an actual supermodel, and the other a fat mcdonalds worker, both walking at the same speed.
>>720817952All Nvidia does is generate fake frames at fake resolutions while paying devs to make their games run like shit without all the fake bullshit
>>720811770might as well sell your gpu and buy a console
>>720819198>Raw FPS doesn't mean anything.the absolute state of nvidia shillsthe one metric that makes you even buy new gpus doesn't matter
>>720812640Is there a sexier man alive atm?
>>720812071You'd be happy if they just removed the 3 highest settings from the game.
>>720815961next next gen game
>>720818469>5060 ti and 9060 xt can't even hit 60 fps on low>console fps at high settings
>>720818469BL4 does not look good enough to justify its performance, for one thing. For another, the 5090 came out 8 months ago. It is utterly absurd that people who bought a new GPU less than a year ago cannot properly run a game that just came out, even in 1080p at mediocre settings without using framegen shit.. >>720818804Yes. The 4090 came out a full year before AC6 and even a 3070TI could nearly run it in 4K on max.
>>720819198>Raw FPS doesn't mean anythingit is nearly the only thing that matters for a GPU, what the fuck are you talking abouti genuinely have no clue what point you're trying to make
>>720819617it's apple mentalityhe thinks nvidia products are prestigious despite coming out of the same machines in the same semiconductor plant in taiwan
>>720819617Probably an AIfag. Would make sense since nvidia GPUs are suited for it while also shitting on games/gamers.
>>720819471>>720819520If you use med preset + upscaling you obviously dont have trouble playing the game. The bigger issue is how cpu heavy it is, like thats the area they need to focus on for optimization rather than anything related to gpus.
>>720819324You have to factor in the image quality, is it so hard to understand? You have the vendor locked DLSS, the vendor locked XMX XeSS, the vendor locked FSR4, and the vendor-agnostic FSR1-3.15. As far as image quality goes, DLSS > XMX XeSS > FSR4 >>>>>> FSR, and these frames, in their purest form, at 100% scaling, will never look the same, which is why DLSS is the supermodel and the FSR4 model is a fat mcdonalds worker. To bring FSR4 to image parity with DLSS, you'd have to supersample, and that means lost performance.
>>720812018Cumskins are getting embarrassing. Can't go a few minutes without blaming browns for their own problems.
>Playing a Gearbox gameI seriously hope you guys don't do this
>>720819782or i could refuse to use the ai slop that has objectively made the developers lazier?dlss and raytracing has objectively made the games worse
>>720819742>upscalingFuck off with your fake AI bullshit
>>720819850I can't even pirate it to shitpost, because of DRM.
>>720811770zoomer here you guys for real? why would shitty graphics reward you with more fps? you guys lowked trolling
>>720819956>gaytracingI hate it. Great for devs because they don't have to put in as much time to get good lighting but bad for consumers because, despite years after being introduced to the consumer, it still tanks performance far too much to be acceptable unless you're paying top dollar. Even then, it's still no guaranteed you'll get 60+fps.
>>720819968over 90% of the consumer desktop gpu market buy nvidia because of the ai features they wantyou pretending its not happening is a waste of everyones time
>>720819742Yeah, the game is just poorly made on a technical level, I'd love to see somebody dig into the code and rip Randy a new asshole. The whole situation reminds me of something I heard a while back (paraphrasing)>I don't really like playing games made by insane people because they're poorly made. 'The Room' is an entertaining movie because Tommy Wiseau is completely insane, but having a crazy person make a video game is like having Tommy make the movie, the DVD and the player it's run on. It just doesn't work.I think the only people who still want to work at Gearbox are insane and/or retarded.
>>720819395>remove them>game is now extremely pale and objects are all single color blocks (still 4k texture though lmao)
If you can't get solid 60 FPS at max settings on top of the line current hardware, those are past the max settings you should have launched the game with
>>720820040??????
>>720820227>because of the ai features they wantor because nvidia is the most compatible with the most games and has a bunch of proprietary tech they keep paying devs to use
>>720811770>pc vegans spent $3000 on overpriced gpu's to run borderlands 4 at medium settings 720p w/ dlss
>>720820227They buy nvidia because of marketing and brand loyalty
>>720820369amd is better at raster perf per dollar, there isnt a single game on the planet you'd have trouble running yet no one buys amd9070xt is even competitive on RT
>>720820467>and emulate other consoles>and all the games that come with those consoles>all for free>don't forget pirating all those pc releases
>>720820467the best console has the equivalent of a $350 gpu
>>720820467>pc vegansWhat does that mean?
>>720811770yougethappierwiveslettingthemfuckniggers
>>720820467console players don't even get to turn off motion blur or adjust their FOV in BL4
>>720820467i bought an overpriced gpu only to play BF6 next month though
>>720820632They eat computers instead of meat.
>>720820675I see what you're trying to do there, you little rat.You don't have the balls to divorce, because she would get half of your shit, so you hook her up with some nigger so she gets aids and dies.All cucks are bitches
>>720811770Brown hands typed this
>>720820942
>get THE best hardware currently on the market>cant play on the highest possible settings>it's somehow my fault
>>720821154Yes, your own fault for trying to play shit games
>>720811770>You get better FPS if you use decompiled code and recompile the game with custom assets which also means that you don't need to pay the publisher
>>720821154That's what you get for buying shit games from shit companies.
>>720820632it means you're replying to a mentally ill tendie
>>720821154Yes, stop playing garbage games.
>>720821417Redundant redundancy.
This whole debacle shows only one thingLarge portion of /v/ can't handle more complexity than what a nintendo console offers.The concept of graphics presets you can change yourself is beyond them
>>720819921I like this meme
>>720811770>game barely looks better than RDR2>game requires 10x the hardware>game crashes constantly because it's UE5, stutters because it's UE5 shaders, and has terrible ghosting because every developer uses default settings
>>720821879There are no games that look better than rdr2
>>720821515The concept of optimizing a game is beyond current day devs
>>720816446the developers of stellaris are retarded as fuck>we optimized the game>what they really mean is they remade calculations have less details, yet the enemy AI still patrols with 100000 fleets with 5 ships all in the same system, traveling together
>>720812293>windown 11
>>720821515The point is that the performance doesn't match the looks
>>720821879>>game barely looks better than RDR2it doesn't even look better than BL2
>>720821515this post shows that you don't understand the main arguments at all
>>720821515Be wrong all you want, they're working on literal hardware exclusive software, just to force you to upgrade, every game is going for mandatory RT, because it does all the work for them, they use UE5, because it does all the work for them. Developers will unironically look at 30fps that stutter and ghost, then turn around and say it runs flawlessly.>>720822205model fidelity is higher, is it necessary for a game like borderlands? Fuck no, Borderlands was never a game about graphics, if anything it's style should be easier to calculate but UE5 is a joke
this thread is why most of you should have bought a PS5
>>720812293Fucking kek kill yourselfI own a 4090 myself and I recognize that game optimization is objectively trash and that the users are NOT at fault
>>720812135i know u r gay lol
>>720815653hey, that's not that ba->1080
>>720811770you get more fps by playing good games
>>720822551To get sub-30fps above 720p anyway?
>>720822221>>720822131>>720821983How many times has a screenshot of the highest preset been posted as proof of poor optimization on /v/?
>>720812135>do you?No.
>>720822551A ps5 pro tier GPU costs $350
>this game used to run well on my pc a few years ago>now if I keep the graphics on high the fans start going haywireMan
>>720815824>>720811770>models: high>textures: high>shadows: low>lighting: low>particles: low>anti-aliasing: 2x>fps lock: 30 fps>everything else: offYep, it's gaming time.
>>720822937Time to clean your shit.
>>720820231>I'd love to see somebody dig into the code and rip Randy a new assholeI smell the next "AttachPawnToTeather".
>>720822937You need to replace your heat fluid
>No, you don't understand, 4k was NEVER attainable, it's always been a pipedream, not a single GPU of its time could do 4k60 in ANY ga-ACK
>>720816446the proper way to play stellaris it's unironically by exterminating half of the galaxy so you can avoid that fucked population fps loss
>>720811770There's plenty of games that run like shit at low settings too. I'd be surprised if Bitchford's games runs well on any settings.
>>720818170You make up nerd problems to get upset about because you were spanked too much or not enough idk.
>>720812293>AMD GPUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU ARE BROWN
>>720819921Kek at the flash drive
>>720823428Those are all outdated raster engines from a decade ago. What next Quake 1 benchmarks?
>>720827707It's benchmarking a GPU from a decade ago you retard.
>>720811770youget morefpsbymakingabettergame
>jannies delete game discussion threads>gacha, hardware, vtuber, twitter screencap, and ragebait threads stay up>nvidia and dlss bots run freecurious behavior tied to janny applications being renewed.
>>720827707Considering those games from decade ago look just as good as games today, maybe we should go back to using those decade old engines instead of using trash like UE5
>>720828995I'm pretty happy about SS threads getting pruned desu. Fuck that game. If I had actually wasted 20 bucks on it, I'd have felt scammed. Don't get me wrong the content up to mid-act2 was fine but then it became a ubisoft game.
I got a 3090 so I could be well ahead of current gen consoles. Why can’t I run Borderlands 4 on max at 60?
>>720829367You need to upgrade your hardware. I'd recommend a RTX 5080 Super at the very least, but if you are willing to reduce your resolution and use deep learning super sampling, you could get along with a RTX 5070 Super.
>>720829367if you have a decent x3d cpu you should get >70 fps on 1440p at medium preset using balanced upscaling
Every graphic setting except resolution or upscaling is a placebo in UE5.
>>720812293I hope you undervolted and overclocked the CPU. Otherwise what are you even doing
>>720829505>you should get >70 fps on 1440p at medium preset using balanced upscalingThat's horrible considering this game in medium looks awful.How does this game run worse at 900p upscaled to 1080p than Stellar Blade did at native 4k with DLAA?It looks like a game from fucking 2014.
I just don't think I should have to make the game look worse than 2013-2019 games and still have it perform worse as well despite an upgrade since.Is that really unreasonable?
>>720812071Games arent optimized anymore because AAA is dying
>>720811770Nigger>Play MonHun Shitilds>3070ti>5900xResolution doesn't really seem to matter.Results from standing in town and rotating camera.1080p std 30fps1080p uw 29fps1440p uw 27fpsOther graphics settings didn't do shit either.fake resolution, fake frames, fake games
>>720830269>b-but muh devs just don't know how to properly utilize the tools UE5 (which is the industry standard btw) provides them! it is not the fault of the engine the devs don't know how to make a game run 60fps in an industry standard engine. you got for example... ummm..*insert 2d platformer* see! there is one game that is properly optimized and ignore the fact it crashes to desktop if you run it for more than an hour on minimum recommended spec pc
>>720829241odd claims from someone in a looter shooter thread who couldn't git gud and pace themselves in a metroidvania known to be esoteric and exploration heavy
>>720812470The difference is pretty staggering in that regard, between performance with UE4 and 5. And the clarity too, at least at 1080p which is admittedly a "me" problem.But also comparing something like Decima Engine to UE5. God damn, it's insane that UE5 is the one defining the PC market.>>720830681The only UE5 game I remember zero performance issues at all, no motion dips or occasional hiccups or ANYTHING, was Hi-Fi Rush->UE4Oh. Well, fuck.
>>720811770>buy the most expensive GPU in the world>still need to play in 720p because some shitters don't know about optimizationNo, fuck you.
>>720815653i like how people are trying to meme you over this image but it literally shows that this dogshit game can only get 70fps on a max rig without frame gen >pic related randy
>>720811770whydontmoderngamesmatchfidelityandperformanceof10yearsago?
>>720811770Why does the game look like borderlands 2 at max settings thoughever?
>>720817829impossible question because borderlands looks like dogshit even at max settings and could be mistaken for a 2005 game
>>720819921qrd on the usb stick?
>>720811770NOOOOOOOOO BUT 4K ULTRA I NEED IT
>>720823428What we're seeing is the death of custom engines and how we're all suffering because of it>RE7RE Engine>TW3RedEngine>Rise of the Tomb RaiderFoundation Engine (Crystal Dynamics in-house engine)>HitmanGlacier Engine>CoD Infinite WarfareIWEngine (technically a derivative of idtech, but so heavily customized that it's basically its own thing)>GTA VRAGE>Ghost Recon WildlandsAnvilNext (Also kind of a shit engine, but still somehow better than UE5)>Far Cry PrimalDunia (Technically a fork of Cryengine, but again, basically its own thing, plus Cryengine isn't absolute garbage like UE5 is nowadays)>Fallout 4Creation Engine (Fork of Gamebryo, mostly shit)>Battlefield 1Frostbite>F1 2016EGO Engine>Doom 2016Idtech>Dishonored 2Void (Fork of idtech)>DXMDDawn Engine (Fork of Glacier)>AssCreed SyndicateAnvilNext
>>720821251>>720821402>>720821457???It's a premium game you philistine mongoloids.
>>720830269In 2013 you weren't expecting games to run at 4k and maintain a consistent 130+ fps
>>720831851I've never expected that ever. I don't think I'll ever care to try 4k.
>>720831851No one is even expecting that in this game, this game can't even pull off 4k60 on an RTX 5090 on max settings, which looks like pic related.That's pathetic, this looks worse than games from a literal decade ago.
>>720821154What's wrong with having settings for future hardware?
>>720831553>In 2018, former Gearbox lawyer Wade Callender filed a lawsuit against Pitchford,[33] that alleged that Pitchford had left a USB drive containing sensitive Gearbox information and "child pornography" at a Medieval Times in 2014.[34][35] Pitchford clarified that the pornographic film on the USB drive was not child pornography and stated that he had saved the pornography for the purposes of studying a sexual act performed by the female actress that he claimed to be similar to a "magic trick".
>>720818302>you cannot run this game at maxso lower some settings, faggot.
>>720821515I wonder why devs haven't started blocking you from using high settings on potato PC. Or maybe even tricking you, by just calling whatever you can reliably run as ULTRA MAX EXTREME UBER HYPER GFX.
>dude just use lower settings with some of the top end, less than a year old GPUs availablekill yourself
>>720822205You're retarded.
>>720828995>anon still crying over his meta thread getting deleted 6 months ago
>>720833398>I don't care about how the game looks like, I care about the setting saying ultraYou'd be happy if they just removed whatever setting you can't run. That's stupid.
>>720833173This post, directly after >>720832897 this post, is fucking hilarious.
>>720833306technically UE5 already does that. all settings except shadows off, motion blur and resolution do jack shit
>>720833596no I do change some garbage like bloom and blur and worthless shit like that, but if I have a top-end GPU, there's zero excuseagain go fuck yourself
>>720833306They did.Wuchang released an "optimization patch" that just shifted the resolution scale so that "100%" was actually 67%.So now you literally cannot run the game at native resolution unless you're running a pirated launch version.
>>720833597What is wrong - with having - settings - for future - hardware - questionmarkJust wondering. I like it when I play an old game, and they thought ahead for stuff that wasn't possible at the time of release.
>>720819395No because lower settings just make everything blurry and horrible looking. If the devs actually designed and optimized for visual clarity and high fps we wouldn't have this problem to begin with. It's sheer incompetence and inconsideration, end of story.
>>720833795Ahh, looks like the bot broke.
>>720833795Because then CURRENT HARDWARE looks like shit and you have no intention to do anything about it because you're sponsored by hardware companies jewishly making people fed up to buy the newest graphics card so games don't run like shit on all settings.Fuck you.
>>720833795so you are saying medieval peasants should have built train tracks instead of roads to future proof their travels when trains were not invented yet?
>>720811770But how can I be badass if I do that??
>I PUT ALL MAX SETTINGS AND ONLY GET 20FPS ON MY 5 YEAR OLD GPU DEVS ARE SO LAZY THEY CANT OPTIMIZE ANYMORE LIKE IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS>meanwhile in 2010> if you tried to run the game on a 5 year old GPU it wouldn't even launch and 25-40fps medium for new games on a brand new upper midrange GPU was good enough
>>720811770except that's not even true. you get better FPS on boltgun on max graphics settings because the game is optimized like shit
How come game devs are so intent on insulting the people they get their money from instead of learning how to do their fucking jobs?
how come my HD 7950 was able to play new games on high for 10 years but my RX 6700 XT only lasted 1.5 years before being a completely useless piece of shit
>have a 5090 and a 98003d>have to turn on fake frames to get above 80 in none combat and 60 in combat
>>720834240my phenom 2 x4 965 ran fine (and still does) for literally a decade when I replaced it during covid times
>>720834502Nvidia already paid them - it's the same as with those devs that shat on everyone once the Timmy-bucks for the exclusivity deal came in.
>>720832897Looks like fortnite with denser foliage but only around your character
>>720834502sometimes the answer is buying better hardware and nothing anyone says mattersyour pc is just too weak
>>720821515>blaming the consumer and not the makersAmericans worship niggers and corporations
>>720834502They are getting all their money from the power company. This is somehow financially feasible because money is magic.
>>720835090sometimes groups of people make mentally retarded posts surrounding a topic. If you feel yourself be targeted by that post maybe its a you problem.
You retards would be happy if they just renamed medium to ultra and eliminated every higher setting
Its kinda funny if you look at how much engagement randy manages to achieve with some twitter postsso many people are talking about blands 4
>>720836508>if you feel yourself be targeted
>>720811770Zoomers are the poorest generation of /v/ posters ever who abandoned consoles to be "le epic PC gamerz!" like their favorite streamers and youtubers. The average poster here probably has a used business dell PC that they slapped a 3050 or 3060 in. Then they screech and cry when things suck. They should just go buy PS5s and fuck off because this shit is annoying.
>>720837196>The average poster here probably has a used business dell PC that they slapped a 3050 or 3060 in.modern dell mobos don't allow you to do that
>>720836564Not really because it would still look like shit and medium still runs poorly for how it looks.
>>720837359They got rid of PCI slots? I highly doubt that, since the major use of them is business who slap something in the PCI slot all the time.
>>720812135what the fuck is 100% resolution
i don't know why but I actually get more frames from higher settings. does this mean my GPU is better or my CPU is shit?
>>720837548>average pc user on /v/ right now ass post
>>720837591resolutions are measured in absolute values, how the fuck are you going to go in to your settings and set them to "50%"?
>>720837659*clears throat*DLSS PERFORMANCE50% RESOLUTIONDLAA 100% RESOLUTION
>>720837591no he's right. before borderless window you would just run at 320×480 but now you have to do this upscaling bullshit. also i think he means what is the resolution to begin with. 1080? 4k?
none of you even know what optimization means
>>720837659Nigga are you retarded?
>>720837734devs have played us for absolute fools
>>720815653>game can barely run at 1080p on a 2000$ graphics cardlol what
>>720837815what is it 50% of? one full resolution? give me a fucking break
>>720811770some games actually perform worse when you lower settings
>>72083789550% of 100%
>>720811770>paying to get ugly """""""hyperrealistic""""""" slop graphicsGraphics dont make up for a bad artstyle direction, or in the case of your crummy brown AAA games the lack of it
>>720837862No saar please be doing the understand you are be the fool right now, game is optimized wonderful you are poor and must be runnings at medium settings now
>>720820227>over 90% of the consumer desktop gpu market buy nvidia because of the ai features they wantpeople buy the latest gpu because bigger number = better lmao
>>720837805The average poster here these days couldn't build a PC without thoroughly watching a linus video let alone troubleshoot or optimize it lmfao. If you show them something like pic related they'd go "uh whats that, ok boomer lol skibidi"
>>720837895>retard literally doesn't know about render scale
>>720837862It runs perfectly fine on ultra on a 5080.
>>720811770>Unreal Engine 5>fake optimization>fake frames>SSD>medium settings>the best GPU in the world>the best CPU in the world>...>Not even 50 fps, and unstable on top of that
>>720838118>i lowered the resolution of the render scale to 50%>50% of what?>of what it was beforeoh, ok
>>720838201Why does PC latency show 64ms when it should be at 14ms max?
>>720838050There should be a litmus test of something like "where's the southbridge and northbridge" etc. before you're allowed to discuss hardware on /v/.
>>720838201God damn this looks like shit.>>720838315He's using frame generation.
>>720838283Weird, I have a 9950 and a 5080 and get 100+ fps and perfectly stable.
>>720812071why bother? a modder will fix it anywaydevs just need to meet their quotas and deliver on schedulegame programmers dont get paid shit for the amount of competency required and time spent on game programming vs what some dipshit junior nepo hire makes maintaining code in some literal who company that effectively does 2hrs of work a week and spends 90% of their working hours shitposting on 4chan, reddit, gooning, and playing dotagame optimization hasnt been a thing for decades, when games were niche and patching wasn't as prevalent, they had to deliver good software or literally nobody could even run their game, nowadays its become common place to put the burden on the consumer to spend $3000 every 2 years to stay current or your games run like shit despite not looking any better than they did a decade ago because its all circle jerked planned obsolescence and backroom deals made between game studios and nvidia/amd
>>720838376Big if true.
>>720811770>lower my settings>game still runs like shit>edit ini file to lower settings further>game still runs like shit>pirate a 6090Ti and a 19990X3DPD and download more RAM>game still runs like shit
>>720812071they won't, game devs, gpu makers and game engine devs all work hand in hand to make sure to sell you the most expensive hardware they can
>>720838376So he's getting the same experience as a 60 FPS user who doesn't even have VRR and uses vsync but with extra mushiness from the generated frames.Omega lol.
>>720838524This nigga actually thought this looked good enough to screenshot.Good lord.
>>720838628No.
>>720838628>the same experienceif you think input lag, and obvious interloped frames constantly as you look around is the same experience, i don't know what to tell you.
>>720838524put your 2nd ability on "A" and make another screenshot pls
>>720838725Second ability on "A"? A is part of WASD.
Settings are a crutch for shit devs.Games should not have graphics settings. Make your game run on the average matchine and make it look good on it. If you can't you are a dogshit dev.Games nowadays look barely better than they did back during the fucking PS3 days. Why do we still need to lower settings to run new PC games with rigs that are 10x more powerful than the PS3 and the 360?
>>720838713A 60 fps vsync user's latency will be ~64ms. Why? ~30ms input lag without vsync is common, so add 33ms because vsync adds two frames worth of lag.His latency is 64ms.These two users are having the same experience.
>>720811770>just play on 640x480 bro
>>720838839for the memes broit will be epically funny
>>720839246I don't get it.
>>720839362just do it bro 2nd ability on A and then post a screenshot
>>720839198no no anon you see if we ai upscale it it's the exact same as 1080p xDDD
>>720839660That's not how it works though, it's the same ability but held down instead of pressed lightly.
>use lower settings>lower the amount of fake frames and fake resolution
>>720840037>you don't NEED 60fps>you don't NEED 1080p
>>720837562You are probably also turning on more aggressive upscaling and/or frame gen
>>720840107the great secret to my happiness is that i truly believe all fps over 30 looks unpleasant
>>72084010745 fps is perfectly reasonable, why should you even want more than 30? you're lucky we're giving you 20
>>720811770NOOOOOOO MY 8 YEAR OLD GTX 1060 3GB SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN 4k ULTRA GRAPHICS!!IT IS UE5'S FAULT!! IT IS THE DEVELOPERS FAULT!!
>>720840289
>>720839934>>720840017alright, had to fix it myself
>>720840475Oh, lol. Pretty funny desu senpai
>>720840475oh fuck i left my password in that image but looks like you cant make it out. shit. i tried trolling the and almost troled myself in the end
>>720838923Settings are good, the problem is devs make the games run like shit regardless of the settings. In the past you could play games just fine on highest settings with the best hardware and if you had lower end hardware you could drop the settings to still get playable framerates. With UE5 it runs like shit regardless of the settings
>do image editing>paste from clipboard>pastes nothing>turns out password went into some layer instead of the image windows is so ass but theres no other option desu
>>720840289>NOOOOOOO MY 8 YEAR OLD GTX 1060 3GBthe 1060 is about to be 10 years old anon. the game can't run on current hardware
>>720840709The 1060 could run shadow of the tomb raider and monster hunter world, and mass effect andromeda, and witcher 3 which all looked better than this game.
>>720812071tpbp - hell on us looks far better than bordlerands 4 and runs much much better
>>720838923>games should not have graphics settings>cannot disable motion blur, temporal smuding, chromatic aberration etct-thanks
>hell on us
>>720840821red dead redemption 2 can run on a fucking potato battery science project and that is still one of the best looking games ever made
>>720840929>he doesn't know how to edit files
>>720841218so do you think blands 4 is poorly made or is it fun
>>720842384I think it's really fun. I've done more sidequests than main quests which to me is usually a sign of a fun game. Also enjoyable with friends. I've had a full party of 4 and it's fun tearing shit up together.
>>720842492Personally I'm glad poor people cant play blands 4its gods way of punishing them for being so unproductive
>>720842705They honestly can, they just refuse to not play on ultra badass settings when they literally can't. My friends are playing on a 2080, 3070, and 4060m and a few other cards I'm probably forgetting just fine.
>>720842705>t. poorfag paying $83.99 per month for 24 months for the 5090, and $20 for 2 years for the 9800x3d
>>720812293>AMDConfirmed brown KEK
>lower everything to literal minimum >can't max out my 240hz screen modern gaming is a joke
>all these brown poorfags seething at anon with a 9070 XT on their shitty iGPUs you will never be white
>>720843473kys faggot my iphone is worth more than your amd trash
>>720843525>my iphonehahahahaha
>>720843663>rx 9070 xt
>>720843925zoom zoom underage niglet
>>720844114only an underage person with limited budget would into sub $600 gpu
>>7208441939070xt is $700
>>720835062I'm going to be a console gamer then.
>>720844193making rational decisions is something a subhuman like you wouldn't comprehendkeep buying your iphones poorfag shit skin
>>720811770I have a question. I noticed in the past few years that changing settings... Basically does fuck all for performance. Sure going from ultra to medium helps, but in the past it was night and day. Now I find going from say ultra to low is a 20% improvement on performance, while in the past it would be double or triple, if not more. Why is that?
>>720811770>Additional Notes: Low Settings 1080p 30fps>GPU Requirements: 2080rtxget real randy
>>720811770I get more FPS playing better games.
>>7208117704K was a meme. And the whole world fell for it.
>>720844359>budgetking schoolbro isn't a loyalty member
>>720811770Not if its CPU bound. See Dragons Dogma 2 or Helldivers.
>>720844453GPUs got so powerful that every game is CPU limited now
>>720844835why don't devs just reroute more work to the GPU
>>720811770>just lower settingsnot with Unreal Engine 5 you don't, enabling dlss performance 1080p which is literally scaled from 540p still runs like trashit's intended UE5 is literally trash
>>720815961ps5 MOGS pcvegans yet again, imagine spending 2500 usd on a 5090 to only barely match base ps5 performance (400 usd btw)
>>72084017960 has been reasonable since the fucking ps2. But for some godforsaken reason game devs are doing everything in their power to make 60fps impossible.
>>720844979my iphone has more gigabytes than your shitty 256gb peasant console
>>720845067and yet my "shitty 256gb console" runs the game better than your 5090. a pcvegans and their money are easily parted
>>720837548Like your native resolution. My native is 1080p because I didn't fall for the 1440p scam. Personally I can run most games on ultra at 1080p, but some titles I run at ultra at 1600x900 resolution. Or if it's super unoptimized I have to run the game at medium and 720p (fucking postal 4).
>>720844926Inherently sequential logic or too much branching and random memory access for it to be a performance improvement
>>720844835Huh, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks. I was always mulling that over in my head.
>>720845182No it doesn't, you're playing at low resolution and low settings and don't even realize it
>>720815961OH NONONO PC SISTERS
>>720838510that's the bethesda approachit didn't work for FO76 and it didn't work for starfield
>>720845549yeah uhhuh whatever you pcvegans say, hey how are you enjoying that 25 fps again?
>>720845812A bad game with performance issues is doa. A good game with performance issues will have fans that want to fix it, and players that are fine fixing it. Darksouls 1 needing dsfix is a perfect example.
>>720816225>forced deferred rendering>forced texture mapping>forced shaded polygons>forced raycasting>forced vector graphics
>>720811770The real argument is getting lost in all this optimization vs hardware shitflinging. It's why are devs making these games so demanding when we're not getting any benefit from these hardware requirements. BL4 doesn't look substantially better than BL3 or Tiny Tina's. Same with Dragon's Dogma 2. That game looked average at best but required a hefty system. The list could go on. They keep making these new games need giga chad system requirements but they don't look all that much better than shit that ran on the PS4.
>>720815961>5090 barely squeezes 36 FPS 1% lowsKEK
What's wrong with lowering the settings to get higher FPS? Back in the day, people on PC knew they had to lower other settings to raise the resolution, so why are people so mad about it now?
>>720811770Depends on what the problem is. If your low fps is because of CPU issues then lowering settings isn't really going to do anything.
>>720846687Kids are fucking stupid
>>720846687There was a period for a while where you could buy a low end gpu and it would just play everything at max settings 1080p for at least a couple gpu gens.People who got into pc gaming then don't know how to open a settings menu.
>>720812640Subhuman, brown mentality is buying overrated shit from another Jewish company and still trying to flex with it. Niggers the same with Nikes. Nigger behaviour. I mean, 2025 games don't even looks like they 2025, lmao.
>Guys, it's totally ok that games that don't have better graphics than older games run worse, just use lower settings lmaoNigger devs tongue my anus.
>>720811770OR, but better hardware.
>>720811770you shouldn't do that with the top of the line
>>720848257>don't have better graphics than older gamesIt does have better graphics though
>>720812071don't be bigoted chud
>>720833257>We provided settings you cannot usebut y tho?
>>720837761>>720837659>>720837895I hope you're only pretending to be retarded.Common sense would say "your monitor's native resolution" is 100%.Since people tend to have different monitors, using an absolute value is dumb as shit, fuck you.
>>720851335for people with an overkill (for 1080p) or future gpu
>>720811770>turn options to high>45fps>turn options to low>47fpsdamn!
>>720853652>5% improvementthat's like overclocking you're GPUwhere you expecting a miracle? because that's a lot of gains.
>>720811770I have a 5090 and it still runs like shit.
>>720811770I wish this were true for Helldivers 2 :(
>>720853652>I don't know what a cpu bottleneck is and still use an r5 3600zamn!
>>720855245I'm on an r7 3700 and I still get this frequently. I need an upgrade soon.
