Is silksong the biggest metroidvania ever? When they finish adding DLC it's definitely going to up in the top 10 largest for sure.
>>720829991Wrong picture
ANSWER ME YOU DUMB BUGS >>720829572
>>720829991mount fay was absolute kino
So what's the lore behind twisted bud and evil witch?Different species from bugs, spooders and wyrms?
>>720829991they will decide to turn the dlc into the next game and spend another 7 years working on it
>>720829737It's the most optional shit in the game and doesn't even count toward 100%.>>720829786Yes, if you want all mementos.>>720830240Cogfly is the most OP tool in this game, so if you have issue with progression get that.As for the crest, you only need to buy the key, it does not require any Craftmetal.
Do redditors really?
>>720830606Would people complain less if shart system was less retarded?
There might be a Super Metroid rom hack that is bigger, but other than that, no.
>>720830418This was tense as fuck
>>720830606He's right.Cue all the "elite gamers" bragging about how it was turbo easy.
>>720830735>>720830606>people actually grinded out shardsI never ran out of shards and was at the maximum shard count for like 90% of the game. Tools are for fools.
>>720830773Mount Fay was the easiest part of that though.
>>720829991>Is silksong the biggest metroidvania ever?Banjo-Tooie is bigger.
>>720830606He's not wrong. I dropped it after 8 hours.
This is how i felt after winning the sprint race against Swift after like 30 tries
>>720830515Who is MC? Sherma or Shakra?
>>7208308673 or 6 rounds?
>>720830839Yeah sure but i arrived with 2 hits only and then took another one just before entering the last part to one of the black crystal floating bugs so i was super tense for the last 2 or 3 jumpsOne of the flying moths you have to grapple became corrupted too so i was sure i was gonna die there.Happy to have it done
Kino, simply kino.
>>720830897Meant for >>720830516
>there's nothing wrong with using a guide for SSusing guides is fun because it reminds me of the old days of physical strategy guides. Going into the store and trying to memorize the steps or bringing my GBA with me.
Done with silksong at least for now. Back to the real grind
>>720830936WHATI thought i was doneI will revisit him after im done getting fist fucked by Karmelita
>>720830968positive nihilism
>>720831040It's optional in act 3 if you want a memento.
>>720830515I dont think there is any lore yet just some sort of parasitic race/creature trying a last gambit by tricking such a powerful entity as Whornet
>>720831039I wonder how HK would feel after Silksong.
>>720831039My friend who just started HK said he wants to do the whole pantheon before playing SS. I dont think he knows what he's in for
>>720830773You can "savescum" itJust backup your save when you get to the next bench and put the backup back in place if you end up destroying the delivery
Do I explore memorium or this part first?
>>720831131I keep trying to float its not fucking good for my muscle memory
>>720831010I only used a guide for finding that one breakable wall in the big elevator shaft.
>>720830606I’m at the end of act 2 and I plan on dropping it once the credits roll. I won’t be unlocking act 3. I’m not autistic enough to enjoy games like these. He’s 100% right. Unless you’re some HRT-riddled, speed running troon, then TC did not make this game for you. I’ll just replay Metroid Dread on Hard mode or the first HK when I want a challenging but still not overwhelming metroidvania.
>>720829991Is there a secret cocaine and stripclub mechanic that i don't know about and you guys are blowing all your rosaries on that? Because i don't underatand why so many keep complaining about having to farm rosaries and being broke, the only explanation is that you are spending your money on something else OR mindlessly spending your entire bank every time you meet a shopkeeper.
I was informed that I could fight Garmond but I don't know how to do itHe's just snoozing in Songclave right now
>>720831010I ask for advice here because it reminds of the school days were you shared tips with your classmates
>>720831159basic pantheon is not that hard for someone determined to do it desuyou can also do basic pantheons with bindings 1 by 1 it will take like 2h and u get extra HP for the main one
>>720831131I was talking shit to my friend trying to beat radiance and he told me to hop on and just try beating the HK. Im so used to SS I felt that I would need to start from the beginning of HK to get used to it again. Knight and Hornet are so fucking far apart in terms of how they move
>>720831236anon I'm gonna be honest, you can just rush act 3. It isnt very long, mostly just bosses.
>>720831193that part is act 1, definitely intended before memorium
>>720829991There exist like 10 metroidvania games in the world in total, so no doubt it'll be in the top 10
>>720831284Is basic pantheon the one with AR? I never did it so I dont know how it works
the size is a detriment though, half of the game is "that" part it will age like shit on replays
>>720830773How the fuck do I still have such little health? I just finished Mount Fay and I only have 6 health. Where are these fucking masks?
>>720831391yes
>third nail upgrade is locked behind courier rusher Also can shitter beat GMS cursed with only two? I heard this curse tied to new crest and once you undone it you can't get cursed ending? I really want new crest...
>>720830606You're not special because you hang out here anon. Hate to break it to you.
>>720830802>agreeing with a redditor
I heard you can get kidnapped and taken to the slab but I've already fully explored that location. Did I just miss that little event?
>>720831236I played until credits and deleted the game. I didn't enjoy it. I can appreciate it, but I'd rather play something else like Streets of Rage 4. These are games not obligations.
>>720829991>start Hero's Call>see zaza show up alone at the bellwayOHNONONONONONO
>>720831259You can reach area on the right from Songclave. Check the path through Vault to Bilewater. This is where you fight him
>>720831175I remeber doing this for ER endings.
>>720831237Do you fags kill every single enemy you come cross even when revisiting areas doing sidequests? Because i don't underatand why so many of you can afford to buy everything in the game without farming.
>>720831528Yes
>>720831237I usually die and lose everything before finishing a zone. Some enemies in some zones don’t even drop any. It would be nice if bosses at least dropped some beads, but that would make too much sense.
>>720829991I wouldnt say bigger. Idk if rain world counts but it definitely has a larger mappic entirely unrelated
>>720830606>enter a boss fight>instead of learning how it works you just spam tools like a retard hoping for a fluke win>die x15>have to farm shards to do the same exact thing again>clearly it's not working but I'm not gonna change my approach>ugh I'll just quitthese people are like girls in math class
>>720831451just finished the courier part of the quest, it's really not that bad
>>720831451why do u normies despise the idea of just killing enemies and doing 2 tripsthere is literally only 1 thing that can dmg u and its the sawblade at the start of the room in the citadelone singular trap
The ost is either great or barely noteworthy.
>>720831451try doing the delivery through Sinners Path, take the shortcut to Exhaust Organ that you unlock from the left. Kill the non-respawning enemies along the way and dont rest on the bench
>>720830968>needolin them>they go on about a ritual all game>remember the grubs>remember literally everything else about HK ever>dread when he's standing there alonewell played devs, you got me
>>720831237It's about shards. You farm rosaries to buy shards.
>>720831326I'm on act 2, defeated big silk mommy and now I'm just clearing the map.
>>720831451if you have the sprinting tool its fine. just walk from there to the butler dude to figure out your route. imo the lamest part if you go the last judge path is the room with the platforms that go up and down with your weight
I got to the bellway in Bilewater but still don’t have a map. Any hints?
>>720831676>normies>lowercase poster Speedrunning is for trannies.
>evolve the hunter crest>no longer feel like using anything elsehelp also my brain already got used to the hunter poggo
>>720831719>>720831451going through wisp thicket after beating fire father is even faster and easier
>>720831631RW isnt a vania
legitimately what were they thinking making this poopwater hell super area. non stop agony and suffering i am doing the boss in bilewater now and i want to die every time fucking 3+ minute runback.
>>720831451Just dew it
>>720831571zanzibo...forgive me...
>weavelightwhat does thing to do exactly?
Why doesn't it show a %? Is my shit glitched?
>>720829991If they actually pulled an Inverted Castle instead of that Act 3 rubbish I don't think anyone could dispute it.>>720831976Need to set up Farsight in the Belhart home.
How do I craft bind with Architect? It says UP + bind but it's not working no matter how much silk I have.
>>720831441I've been doing a steelsoul run and the lack of fragments in the early to midgame is pretty wild. No wonder casuals were complaining given how little power progression you feel.
>>720831776Get double jump.
act 3 is so fucking bad jesus christ
>>720831883>fucking 3+ minute runbackpreaching to the choir, but also dude, there's a secret bench
>>720832112I have it already
>>720831915:(
>>720832089It feels ridiculous that I'm like 40 hours in and can still die in three hits to every boss.
>>720831604A lot of the enemies that drop rosaries are also fun to fight, so i don't mind fighting them again, and i equip the charms related to rosary drops when i'm exploring an area with enemies that drop them.>>720831628If you have rosaries in the coccom you should go extra careful and even come back to the bench when low on health and silk. You can also use the silk grub item if you're not sure if you can make it.
>>720831691it's terrible compared to the first game, larkin either got told BOTW style ambient crap is the way to go or he phoned it in
>>720832160i already found the funny haha fake bench u cant trick me
>>720832218More like 2 hits followed by a panic dash into their hitbox because they jusy repositioned looool
>>720831831>help also my brain already got used to the hunter poggoSame, i know Wanderer is objectivelly easier but i simply can't do it.
>>720831604Guidefags or gamingGODS. It's not possible to not farm.
>>720832019>Need to set up Farsight in the Belhart home.No you don't, I still got my completion %
>bone bottom vendor is goneAre the items lost forever on my savefile?
>>720832338no there's an actual secret bench, you find it by swimming in maggot water because the game hates you
>>720829991Aeterna Noctis is supposedly really fucking big, but I haven't played it yet so I can't be sure.Playtime wise, doing either La-Mulana game blind will probably take you longer
>>720832019oh okay thanks
>>720832393I didn't think they left until you bought everything.
>sethwow another swordsman boss who jumps around! very cool team cherry! this is what, the 30th one of these?
>>720832393Grindle sells any "missed" items later on
>>720832227ok, and I assume you already cleared the first shrine shop, and the bellhart shop, including hornet's house addons, and also the thieve guy's shop and the architect shop, plus his key?good for you anon, this is nor the majority's experience however
>>720832238Well HK was pretty drab looking before the updates. Maybe SS could get a similar facelift for it's musichttps://youtu.be/Dq8wGcWeXwg?si=luOwsULUO5-JlbzkMore shit like this please.
Do I really need to go back to bil*water for shakra quest???fucking hell m8, I defeated the boss expecting to never ever return to that shithole
>Second Sentinel filters me
>30 hours in>last judge still the best boss so farKinda dissapointed 2bh
>>720831917makes the silk regeneration of the silk hearts fasterbut I used it till the ending of the game thinking it would give me more silk per hit like the shaman stone in the first gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LNGR70ONpAfelt like a retard after watching this
>>720832538>>720832238https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTicXQYw2ts&list=RDFTicXQYw2ts&start_radio=1Citadel had the best music by far
>>720831193lol wtf anonhow did you get all the way to memorium before finishing the literal first area in the game
>>720832552you need to do a mini path of pain in bilewater, have fun
Feels like it was a mistake playing Silksong on release.It will be improved after patches and DLC 100% after all
>>720832184then look up nigga
>>720831742why would you ever have to do thisi never ran out of shards for the entire gameare you spamming tools or what
>>720831237They buffed the amount of money you get by a ton
>>720832673how do you get more silkhearts?
When is it my turn to attack the raging conchfly
>>720832781I fucking hate you all video game hating niggers. Its all im gonna say.Go to your fucking sony console and press X 50 times in a row to get an ending and just leave actual games in peace.
>>720832383I'm not saying i have the money to buy everything, but i just keep playing normally and come back to the shop after a while to buy the stuff instead of going out of my way to farm rosaries.
>>720832736TC key scum probably.Act 1 has only one (two?) keys and you can waste one on shitty Deep Dock area and miss crest.
>>720832843you can dash attack it when its going vertical and pogo it when it goes horizontal
>>720832606It was a great fight. I think jumping works against every attack except the one where he points diagonally up then spins. As long as you dodge that spinning one you'll be fine.
>>720832843when he's on the other side of the room and you chuck a boomerang at him
>>720832926what do keys have to do with exploring the first room in the game
Finally did it. I liked Lost Lace fight so much I emptied my red crest sockets and dueled her honorably. Did the same with Karmelita and First Sinner. Definitely my favorite fights. Silksong has its share of flaws, but I absolutely had fun. Dare I say, I even had a blast. TC, give us an option to fight bosses again, like in Godhome. I need it.Also, Lace is a good girl, but Karmelita is my wife. I loved her singing during the fight.
I beat the game.
>>720833036>Did the same with Karmelita>he didn't equip the curvesickle for her>not using the ancestral skarr weapon she dual wieldsyou failed anon
>>720833115>one single nail hitYou beat the game.
>>720833036lost lace is the only one u can refight sadlythis game needs a godhome ASAP but knowing TC it will either take a year or they will take the inbreds to complained about it and wont happen
>>720832890>Go to your fucking sony consoleMeds. The Act 2 map alone is downgrade to anything in HK. Rewards for exploration? Lol. Bosses don't even drop rosaries.Shard tool system? Trash from Bloodbrone. Everyone hated it.Interconnected location? Nope.This is the game where you get infinite shard tool in fucking act 3
Dark Souls 2 of metroidvanias
>>720833115>didnt just cheese by standing in the wateri guess u 25% beat it
>try the supposedly busted architect thing with poison cogfly/boomerang/tacks>beat Trobbio first try>five minutes later beat Lace2 first tryI cheated not only the game, but myself
>>720833023This is bongrave location. It is locked. You need to open the door in the wormways.
>zoomies act like this will be the biggest gaming launch of all time>not even top 5 anymore>being outsold by friendsloppa that came out a year and a half ago and isn't on saleFucking grim. People will forget about this DLC in less than a month.
>>720833115>no wreaththat's pretty impressive, don't think I could do it without that (except spam tools I guess)
>>720832520I have everything except the cosmetics from Bellhart, two items from the thieves shop and the final needle upgrade. However, Act III mostly steer you towards areas with no rosaries so i'll give you that: it is in fact way harder to make bank in late game.
>>720829991The endgame bosses in Silksong crumbled quicker than I would have liked. I was expecting shit like pure vessel, NKG, Hegemol or Ze'mer from the hollow knight pale court mod on steroids but I was left hungry by the end of act 3.This is my 1st attempt on karmelita which I've unfortunately been spoiled on and had hyped expectations
>>720833297Am I a contrarian if I think the game is bloated?
>>720833227You literally get rewarded max spools, constant masks and dmg upgrade by exploring.Crying over tools just reeeeeks of you that you need 50 cogflies every fight. Suck a dick consolenigger
you didnt beat the game
>>720832843When you equip poison and cogflies and whichever anti-air tool you like.
>>720833115any groal kill is valid, the usual beat the game rules don't apply to him
Movement skills distribution seems complete ass
>>720833393the last cosmetic costs 1100 btw
>>720833370everything you just said was wrong
>>720830515She kinda looks like the white lady but like mortal instead of pale god. Plant person.
>>720833449>You literally get rewarded max spools, constant masks and dmg upgrade by exploring.You don't lol. Keep deluding yourself. Most areas give you nothing. And most tools are shop only lol.
>>720833419>double damage charmYou did not beat the game
>>720833419And webm rel is my 3rd attemptEven with the double damage charm the game is way too lenient once you play like a bitch. I really hope there will be a godhome equivalent because lace 3 was seriously disappointing as a final fight possibly more than the vanilla OG Hollow Knight/Radiance fights at the end of the campaign>inb4 wanderer
>>720833393>>720833529i only had to grind 700 rosaries when i finished all content outside of shops, and it was extremely easy with 55 rosaries from each of those cog fighter guys by the cradle. took like 3 minutes
>>720830606Tools are comically broken and if you are running out that means you are using a cheese strat on bosses yet somehow failing.So jesus christ
>>720833370you can go to the graveyard as soon as you get the dash
how tf do I get the witch crest? I don't want to look up a guide, I just want a hint. I finished bilehaven and am working on the spider bitch's quest right now
>>720833658No thoughts in the mind of his just ramming himself at the boss to do dmg.Fucking christ
>>720833658>WandererPretty good, but I'll be impressed if you do it with any other crest, barring Architect.
I can't believe the knight comes back as an npc
post em boys
>>720833115>touched the cancer waterNope
>>720829991>Is silksong the biggest metroidvania ever?No, there are a couple of chineses metroidvanias that are absolutely massive.
>>720830606>HK>CasualNever was though. Clearly this is someone suffering in skill as a result of aging 7 years since HK came out. And honestly dying is LESS punishing than HK because you have a fuckin cap on how much currency you can hold, so losing it all feels less shitty than dying in HK and losing like thousands of geo.
>>720833994Easy to make something big when u steal 99% of assets
>>720833832did you find the screeching thing in bilewater? you need to deliver it to an npc
>>720832890>Go to your fucking sony console and press X 50 times in a rowpretty ironic to blame consoles when pc nigs glaot about using mods to reduce the difficuly and use all kinds of cheats
>>720833832did you find some weird ass fetus item in your exploration? that's the beginning
>>720834065nobody but ragebaiters do that
>>720834053>>720834073no, is that accessible right now? im still in act 2. I explored this place pretty thoroughly and didn't find that.
>>720833869who? where?
>>720833797Nope. The way is locked from other side.
>>720834150wrong, retard. you can walk right in
>>720833849Ok, I don't really know this game, but that's not what I see. There's clearly dodging and picking moments to attack. Feel free to post a video of you doing this correctly to teach me what's wrong with that video
Finished the game - was pretty good. Not my GOTY but from a purely gameplay standpoint this is the best game this year. The final boss being the hardest fight is always a nice plus.
>Hornet actually knows Mr. Mushroom...what does it mean bros?
>>720834137Yes, It's in bilewater but you need to enter from another area
>>720834137no, you need to enter from another area
>>720834137there is another path that connects bilewater and whispering vaults, I think you need to unlock that
>>720834221Show the way on the map.
>>720830067Platforming on murderous cogs is giving me White Palace PTSD
>>720833419>1st attempt>spawned in the arena with used tools[x] doubt
>>720834285
FUCK YOUFUCK YOUJUST FUCKING FUCK YOUFUCK
>reach hollownest>now I’m trapped in the city>finally find a way back>it’s a fucking elevator>do I really need to go all the way back instead of using the bus?>back track all the way so I can expend my money>then go back to finish exploring the city>there was a bus right near the elevatorFINE, AMAZING GAME DESIGN GUYS, TEAM CHERRY MOTE LIKE TEAM NIGGERS, WHAT EVEN WAS THE POINT?
>>720833463Yeah no shit I didn't beat the game I just entered the Whispering Vaults
>>720833994Which are?
>>720834521Good job, anon. You're better than redditors >>720830606
>>720834521Got another one, boys
>>720834551imagine jumping to conclusions instead of exploring your surroundings
Maybe the reason Hornet takes more damage than the Knight is because she has organs and such inside her
>>720830735I think yes, mostly because for people (like me) who learn slow, it's frustrating to grind/practice a boss and not be able to repeat the process since you run out of ammo after every death.It's one of those things where I never run out of shards, but it's only because I all but refuse to use tools so I don't find myself relying on them and not having ammo for them. I'd use tools a lot more liberally if I knew it was just "limit between benches" with no prospect of shard grinding. I don't think the shard system accomplishes anything valuable from a game design perspective.
>>720831039i only managed to do soul master in the 50min of trying, yikes
Do I really have to do those?I thought I was done after the lacquer and even that one only gave me rosaries
how do i get to sands of karak?
>>720834813No you don't have to
>>720834675>t's frustrating to grind/practice a boss and not be able to repeat the process since you run out of ammo after every death.maybe don't use a limited resource when you're still just practicing? ever think of that?
>>720834813no, they are just an endless source of money
>>720834521LMAAAAAAO
>>720834381It's shouldn't be possible to reach. Either locked on the opposite side or too high without climbing options 100%
>>720833115Based cheeseanon devaluing the completion trophies.
>>720834661Good job avoiding the question. Again what is the fucking point of the elevator? Suck my cock shill
my headcanon is that the hollow knight universe all takes place in some aussie cunts back yard
>>720834813Just do Queen's Egg for your bro Styx.
>>720829991>>720830067>took them 7 years to make this lazy devs
>>720833328and if you OD on plasmium you get passive regen and are basically immortal. its the pay to win crest.
The guy upgrading the needle left a note saying he went to visit graves in great wood. Does he mean Shellwood?
>>720834962>Again what is the fucking point of the elevator?maybe they used it to deliver goods to the city. how should i know?
>>720835034yes
>>720835034isn't it great how there are 5 different woods?
>>720833115Hello, based department?
>>720834903idk what this means anon. just follow the arrow, the path is wide open. requires dash at least to make the jump from above
Unless you play and get 100% on steel soul, you didn't beat the game.
>>720834843>>720834861wew thanks
>>720833849I focused my second try on actually observing her attacks but her moves were painfully simple to understand. Hornet's hitbox and speed while running trivialized the fight. >>720833851I actually regret not doing more with the other crests while playing silksong, and I don't know if I have the strength for another playthrough right now. I didn't even experiment beyond hunter and reaper during act 1, any time I would discover a crest and test their moveset for a few seconds I'd just think "naah fuck this gay shit" and return to the wanderer comfort zone. I initially thought wanderer to be bad because of the even smaller reach than in charmless hollow knight, but hunter and reaper being so slow to attack made me angry the longer I played with them so I reverted back to it. Same reason as to why I never separated myself the double damage charm as soon as I got it, I absolutely abhor bullet sponge enemies and wanted to deal with them quicker no matter if it made everything more dangerous. I was mad when the last judge's explosion took me by surprise and killed me at full health but that's my fault kek>>720834364I had no shards left
>>720835216>quit loads in your path
Look I'm enjoying Silksong but it's clear Team Cherry got infected by the Fromsoft virus that made them believe that what people wanted was HK but super epic hardcore difficult, and that's fine by me but difficulty is not what made people fall in love with the first game.Dark Souls did a lot of damage.
i play the game on 0.8% speed and feel like i'm communing with the honey gods
its a shame that kid died but seth is a really shit fight
>>720835279more like dark souls fixed the console moviegames epidemic
>>720835262>webmOh god I found that place and instantly knew I was never going to clear it lol
>>720835216>100%>she picks up upgrades along the waynah dude, low% or nothing
>>720835279If I buy a movie I expect to be able to finish it.
>>720831123Were you lying to me anon? i got the boss down in a few tries and went back and he still talks about training.I will visit him again after having advanced the main quest i guess
>>720832648find a secret path in the slab.
>>720835347Yeah and replaced it with the uberultrahard difficulty arms race epidemic where studios forget that games need to be fun too, not just hard and frustrating
>>720835391Then go buy a movie next time
-steel soul-no upgrades-no hit-no tools-no healing-no jumping-default crest onlyyou didn't beat the game
>>720832736You have no real reason to go back there at all, especially if you just outright forgot about the weaver door in the first area
FINALLYWhat a cunt.
Hello, I'd just like to say that I liked the final boss. It was challenging and fun. Act 3 final boss to clarify.
I didn't get the dice in Act 2. Am i fucked? Are they lost forever?
>>720835165I don't believe you. Can you post webm?
Bros I'm getting filtered
>>720835767you can get them from his corpse
>>720835767Nah they're still obtainable
>>720835821>>720835859There's nothing on his corpse tho.
>>720835797i was getting filtered by lugoli but then i beat it
>>720835034He went to visit this great wood *unsheathes penis*
>>720835886Grindle
>>720835404After you get Everbloom.
>>720835767If only there was an NPC known for thievery and graverobbing who sells shit he stole nearby...
>Silksong gaming time!>Run to closest bellway>Bellway to Grand Bellway>Lift to Songlave/Memorium>Runt to closest bench or High halls bench>start farming mobs>run back to the closest lift>Lift to Grand Bellway>Bellway to Bellhart>Open shop>scroll down to bell shard>press X>press X again to confirm>repeat this process X amount of times (starting from scrolling down)>activate all shards>run to Bellway>Bellway to Grand Bellway>Lift to area you want>Press R1 up or down multiple times in combat>-60 shardsThis is the ultimate vision of Team Cherry. 7 Years of Development.They even put quest where you need to use tools to kill mobs! This is amazing don't you think?
>>720835886If you missed something in act 1/2 and it isn't on the ground, Grindle found it while scavenging and will sell it to you
I'll post what is probably my biggest retard moment in Silksong, probably the most stupid shit I did this year when it comes to videogames. I spent almost 30 minutes baiting and pogoing on that mob to reach that platform on top in the Karak Sands when I discovered later on the way back that I just had to activate one of the yellow mechanisms at the bottom. I felt proud of myself thinking I found a difficult sequence break to perform at the time because team cherry was actually careful not to allow things like that. Like that area that absolutely requires the double jump in bilewater
>>720830606Instead of spamming tools and having to grind shards he could've just learned the boss' moveset
>720836018is that the shit you're gonna spam for the next 6 months now?Nobody cared the first time
>>720835896I stalled Lugoli until act 3 so he got void infected moves during the fight. Fuck that fat fly.
>>720835262>he spams tools so much he runs out of shardsyikes
>>720835262It's actually painful to see clawline not being used at all in that webm, the game really does not do a job at teaching people how good it is in combat
>>720831906This path is ass, there are so many enemies. Just go left and climb up the grand gate.
nope
>>720836032I respect the effort
>>720836018goty and best posty
I'll try to give some constructive criticism instead of just calling act 3 shit. I don't know if team cherry bothers with these threads but whatever. >make nail upgrades give you a bigger damage boost they should have always done more damage>pro tip: if the boss is harder make the runback shorter this should be obvious >holy fucking fuck please speed up the entering dream sequence it's slow as fuck and took like 2 seconds in the original hollow knight how do you fuck this up? >give act 3 bosses better rewards or something they're a boring slog so the least we could get is more cool tools. for people that already beat them just put the items in shops or something to buyI really hope they fix act 3 by the time DLC rolls around I really really want to like this game but actually 3 just straight up ruins the game
>>720836072Upvoted
>>720836110please understand I hate flying enemies and I couldn't really afford to make mistakes
>>720836032Why not just press your taunt button and force it to come towards you?
>>720836162rain world isn't a metroidvania
>nyleththey really did forget how to make fun bosses, didnt they?
Surely there is another bench in Bilewater that's closer to the boss.....right?
>>720836193Hornet here saved thanks
I actually think tools were a mistake. They don't really feel like they make the combat any more interesting and it's clear they balance the latter bosses around tools with how tanky they get. Most of the tools are rather boring, mostly just projectiles, not even cool stuff like grenades or anything. The bug robot is so obviously broken for anyone that isn't dedicating themselves to architect crest and tool spam.
I wish the game was harder and had more boss fights that existed solely to be a challenge while providing no rewards for victory.I fucking love this game and crave more.
>>720836141It's weird cause I think the entire point of that room is meant to be about teaching you to use it for combat>the clawline is required to get in>the floor gets taken away>flying enemies, some of which hover just out of reach>you likely had this area marked as "not accessible yet" from when you gathered stuff for the glide upgradeit was built to teach you to use the clawline for fighting
>>720836283Haha.Stay in the muck while you're fighting him, he can't do shit.
test
Bit of a lorelet here, and not even in Act 2, but I have a question.>Hornet is "child of those who fled">Hornet is "more weaver" than the other spiders in the gameI though Herrah was just a spider queen of Hallownest that the Pale King fucked? Shouldn't Hornet be barely a weaver?Or has shit just gotten so diluted over the centuries that Hornet, daughter of a descendant of a Weaver, is still "more Weaver" than the few spiders remaining in Pharloom?
>>720836018>not using save quitting to teleport back to last used bench to save minutes of timengmi
>>720836227>fight gets easier after they desynchI know the whole thing is easy but why'd they design it like that, feels backwards
>>720836193Act 3 is shit. FactConstructive criticism? This aint reddit boy. When you see evil you know it's evil. Your heart knows, your mind knows, your human nature knows. You don't need to explain anything. Same with act 3. The demanding for constructive redditism is a sign of weakness. Your consciousness knows. You want to cope. But you can't cope away from naked truth. Act 3 is shit.
>>720836402There is a grenade but I agree, most of the tool are rather boring and I'd rather they have invested more into new silk skills and crests.
>>720836402There are grenades, though? What are you talking about?The game did desperately need an equivalent of the castlevania axe projectile.
>>720835262anon you are a gamer and are better than 99% of players here with those reflexes and hand eye coordination. us less talented took several tries and had to use tools as a crutch.do you play competitive games?
>>720836424Once I started using it for normal combat I feel like my damage shot up.It and silk skills, I see people on full silk just trying to spam attack
>>720830737This.... can't be right. That is just too overwhelming.
>>720836141>>720836424Are you sure it's required to get in? I was spamming the clawline constantly once I got the hang of it. I would have used it 100%>>720836169Wanna hear something even more retarded? That segment in the beginning of super metroid where you need to run across the crumbling bridge in the forest. I didn't realize there was a run button since I was playing it on Wii U virtual console, right after I had finished zero mission. So like a dumb retard at the time I thought that this must have been a casual filter and I spent and entre summer afternoon doing short hops jumping on the disappearing platforms to cross the bridge. Back then I was a braindead teenager so it made sense, but I didn't expect something similar to happen to me again. Also here's a strange bug in the weavenest area involving these enemies
Silksong is without a doubt better than Hollow Knight up until act 3. HK just has a way more satisfying conclusion than Silksong does, especially the last secret boss.
i cheesed her with architects + cogflies and id do it againgive me shit bosses and i will refuse to engage with them
>>720836510Or having Higher Being blood in her enhances her Weaver side
>>720836402>use grenade 4 times>300 shards stolen
>>720836409did you do all the pantheon in hk?
>>720836402Too many are just fire and forget or just throw in the rough direction of the boss and it'll hit a bajillion times. They're kinda boring to useThat's why I like shaman
>>720836672You just lucked out that you have infinite shards on her, try doing that against Lost Lace.
>>720836424I think the issue is that people are used to original HK so they always associate that button with the crystal dash which is useless in combat. So they only use clawline in noncombat situations. Maybe if they made it silk positive on hit people would go for it more but it's already so good
>>720830240crest just requires you find tools in general, they don't need to specifically be from architect
Afterimage might be bigger, but it's mostly empty and a bit boring.
>>720836623I used to play a lot of fighters when I was a teen. I have clocked in around 9k hours playing smash 4 and ultimate years ago with friends in real life and online
>got six crest>all boosted>keep receiving locketsW-Where is the seventh one? Reaper, Wanderer, Beast, Architect and Shaman is what I have and I'm in act 3
>>720830606I always feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone reading post like this because the game isn't even that hard. Like, I'm not trying to brag because I still had my fair share of deaths. But this game is about in line with your average fourth or fifth gen platformer.
>>720833115did you guys know that if you throw the exploding grenade tool when he's sucking he gets a special damage animation and stops the suck?
>>720836645It's completely gated with clawline and you have to go out of your way to back there with that exact ability, you probably just forgot
>>720836852it's locked behind a tedious sidequest
>>720836852Have you found the weird crying baby thing
>>720829991it's actually quite small, as all of the characters are bugs, so the world is likely scaled accordingly. hope this helps!
>>720836852Witch is somewhere
>>720836852Witch
>>720836852There's an item in bilewater that will lead to itYou unfortunately missed a meme ending since you're already in act 3
>>720836510Even if she looked different, Herrah was a weaver. Hornet is even called out as being half weaver in the abduction logs where the other ones are said to be like 1/4 and 1/8.
>>720836670>Silksong is without a doubt better than Hollow Knight up until act 3I don't like Citadel. In HK locations were interconnected witch each other but in act 2 they're just dead ends.
>>720837056kingdom's edge is a dead end until pretty late into the game
>>720836670I actually totally agree. It's just for me act 3 retroactively makes the rest of silksong feel worse so right now I have to put hollow knight above silksong. It's like having the best sex of your life and just before you cum she pushes you off and says "I think we should start seeing other people" like what the fuck was that?
>>720837016>skipped a meme endingWell shit, I might as well check it again another time. I'm fairly sure I'm at the very end
>>720831441Act 2 throws masks (and spools) at you like crazy, Mount Fay itself has one right at the bottom left that's literally just sitting there in plain sight to be picked up with double jump
>>720834521Get trolled on, faggoo
>>720829991Yep and it has less empty space than HK's map too. God game.
Someone spoil me on Shermadoes he die? Does he become some kind of corrupt soul?
I will only use bad gimmicks because that’s how you are supposed to play the game
>>720837270Kingdom's edge is KINO tho and no area in act 2 can inspire such awe.
>>720837456kingdom's edge is arse and you know it
>>720829991Knytt Underground barely counts as a Metroidvania, but if it does it might have Silksong beat.
>>720837428Sherma lives and remains pure
>Lace is the hollow knight of her region>Shes also the Hornet of her regionNeat
>>720837428You are his maiden, and you can spoil him by bathing naked together
Wanderer chuds, here is your daily reminder You lose and didn’t beat the game
>>720837428Ends up as the sacrifice in the flea ritual in act 3
>>720836032Impressive.
>>720835216you know the original "didn't beat the game" post was about using cheats to slow down the game
>play HK 100% blind without internet>beat the game 100%>play Silksong 100% blind>miss most secret areas behind ridiculous hidden walls and jumpsWhat did TC mean by this?
>>720836623>>720836845I also want to add that it's most likely due to the hollow knight experience carrying over that I didn't have a lot of trouble with those bosses in silksong. I was stuck for an entire day on nightmare king grimm when I first played hollow knight, about 3 days or so for pure vessel.I also got stuck an entire afternoon on the slab optional boss fight,died more times than I'd like to admit to last judge/blasted steps runback, the bilewater runback, gauntlet + boss as well. Meanwhile first sinner, trobbio, GMS, Shakra, Seth and the actual cool designs just crumbled too quickly with none of them requiring me more than 4-5 attempts at best and that's with the double damage charm involved. Wanderer crest/HK playstyle is just too busted in this game, but the other crests didn't feel satisfying to play because they are just too slow to attack with.Also the braces didn't actually double your damage output, at best it was an increase of about 15-20% I'd say. Some enemies would require the same number of hits to kill regardless if you had it equipped
>>720837516I don't believe you. If that was true then maybe Sherma was the result of people liking the singing mining bug a lot and how sad it was. But I also think that cherry team loves rehashing their story and character beats a lot so they are going to kill Sherma
The story of Silksong actually feels a bit flat compared to HK or am I missing something? It's basically just like ok so there is this silk being controlling everything and I kill it and now we're good compared to HK where the Knight has an intrinsic connection to the fall of Hallowest and dealing with the Infection. The lore of the Pale King and the uniting of the tribes is also more interesting.
>>720831236>complaining about something being too autistic on 4chan of all placeswhy is it that i've yet to see someone on here who hates this game who isn't a retarded tourist
>>720831646kek thisyou have to be a female or a retard to play so bad you need to farm shards
>>720837676Yes but I'm coming from the smash bros melee perspective.
>>720837428He is DLC bait , don’t trust him
>>720837718You're right Sherma spends 10 years hard time in The Slab and you have to fight him
>>720835216None of the people who finished Steel Soul didn't save quit when they were about to die.
>>720837718>the result of people liking the singing mining bug a lot and how sad it wasI think that's the case, specially considering the Fleas' finale too >>720831731
>>720837718he ends up being exposed to the horrors of the citadel, and it ends up breaking his spirit turning his song sad
>no capslock poster KINO webmsIt's so over.
I liked HK's map more. It was more coherently designed unlike a fucking desert directly underneath a mountain.
>>720829991if anything made me not want to play a game before it's this image
*ahem*game peaked on act 1.citadel should have been smaller, more boss and endgame focused.there should not have been 2 different fast travel thingies, only 1, and their location should be centric, connected to multiple areas of interest.there should not be runbacks to bosses.axe bilewater in it's entirety.that's it. game improved
>>720837940These are the people saying the game is too hard
I don't know if it is bigger but I am posting Salt map.png anyway!
>>720835724Second to worst boss in the game
>>720836719I was actually planning on going back and doing it again now as a way to compare the game play and boss fights between the games.Silksong just feels so good to play, I never felt this way about Hollow Knight or any other metroidvania.
>>720835279No, Team Cherry wanted HK to be this difficult in the first place
>>720837993I think the only problem with Bilewater is that it's like 25% too large, that's it
I have a house now.
>>720830606>farming shards instead of rosariesWhat an idiot! I only farmed rosaries to buy everything but shards
>tfw had no BIG problems in Bilewater
>>720838221Hornet actually lies down if you stay on the bed for a few secs.
>>720838221just wait until you hang up your still beating heart in it you ripped out of a gay man's chest
>>720838221I like video games because they let you live out outlandish fantasies.
>its so heckin bigbut is it good
>>720837940What is bro doing
>>720836162It always makes me laugh my ass off remembering that the setting of rainworld is based on the dev's experiences in dystopian south korea
>>720837779Not your secret club.
Alright i did the mushroom quest and am finally doing the last boss i hope its a good one
>>720838325I would say so. It's hard to stop playing.
>>720830606This is why I feel like tools were a mistake. Your first few boss runs should always be without any skills, any tools, just dodging and hitting and then you supplement that with skills and tools after you learn the moveset.
>>720838127Maybe they're just really bad game designers after all.
I like act 3
Someone bogpill me on the mushroom
>>720830867>30 tries What the fuck? It shouldn't take that much. Granted, on the last 3 lap race and the 6 lap race, he'd get stuck near the end of the lap so I was able to beat him incredibly easily
>>720834675If your way of practicing is using tools you're doing things wrong
>>720838015>right side of map>that fucking section with the platforming followed by the unicorns>"good luck lel"
>>720829991I want to say I enjoyed the game a lot but my enjoyment was constantly strained by one issue or another, and it ended up feeling a bit worse than Hollow Knight.
>>720836549They should have made it so the order of the attacks wasn't the same every time to mix things up
>>720838532Maybe you're just cooked at games, unc
Nice game
>>720838638This. Silksong starts so much higher than HK and so the feeling of annoyances and bad things chipping away at that perfection makes it feel so much worse than HK where it starts off kinda alright but constantly grows on you. To me Silksong starts at a 10 and ends up at a 8 while HK starts at like a 7 and ends up a 9.
>>720838710Out. Fucking. Played.
>>720838545You can't heal or generate silk. Need to kill last boss for the ending.
>>720838256Hot
>>720838325Not really. The game would greatly benefit from cutting at least 25% space and improving the rest.
>>720838757>To me Silksong starts at a 10 and ends up at a 8 while HK starts at like a 7 and ends up a 9.Hello, me.
>>720838796I think they're both 9/10
As someone who is a bit of a soulsborn savant (only played DS 1 and ER the ones that matter) and I have to say that Silksong is brutal at times but the high of beating and overcoming challenges is great and gives me that same felling when I played the soulsborn games. The redditors complaining simply don't know how to play with out handholding all the time even when this game gives you every opportunity to succeed.
>>720832920I want the shopkeeps stuff now, not later
>>720838796
Eva tells me she can expand my power more and to come later. What does that mean? I'm in Act III and already got 2nd Hunter upgrade and blue slot from her.
>>720838921
>>720838710You always wonder how all those Chinese people die in elevators and escalators and then you see this
>>720838710it should've crushed and instagibbed you
>>720838626heh I always hit Pitchwoods from the left so I had to deal with the unholy trinity of spindlefuckers before anything further in that dark forest shithole
>>720838974Silksong will go down in history as being the Dark Souls 2 of Hollowknight games
>>720838757You hit the nail on the fucking head. Hollow knight gets better the more you play while silksong gets worse
>>720838971She wants you to unlock more of the tool slots on your different crests
>>720838971Acquire Crests and unlock tool slots.Next upgrade is binding her.
>>720836032>yellow mechanismswait whati dont think i used that either lol, IIRC i pogoed from the left metal spikes, double jumped and clawlined to just above the red spikes. I remember it took me a few tries because the clawline kept smashing me into the spikes but i think i got it eventually
Third game should be about the hollow knight in the city of steel.
>>720832520I think all of these>imagine needing to farm in this game lolllll maybe stop dyingposters are either full of shit or are just ignoring vendors. Truth is the rosary demand for this game is insane, it really doesn't help that so many sidequests have a "thanks for coming all the way out here, gib me 400 dollar" step
>>720838974don't think I ever completed the second level in NGthat shit is HARDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8uGdjK5VA4
>>720836672I just pogo:d on-top of her. And whenever she did a move that could actually hit me, I'd use the counter. And then I'd refill the silk whenever she couldn't even hit her.
>>720831631vanilla+downpour map for 4/9 (yes i am counting the meme character too because his map is completely different) campaigns5 other characters have minor and major map variationswatcher's map is even about as large as downpour but it's a lot more interconnectedi know it's not a metroidvania
>>720838757I was so fucking hyped for the rest of the game after I unlocked the Beast and Reaper crest, I was like holy shit im ready for all these new diverse movesets and interesting tools and movement options that they're going to throw at me because they know I already beat Hollow Knight and then... none of it really came. I still really like the game but my expectations were really dashed after I just didn't get anything interesting for hours.Yeah maybe it was just the years of waiting for Silksong but I feel like I was relatively reasonable with what to expect and while I got A LOT of content (especially for 20 USD), I kind of wanted more variety. As the game goes on and it just becomes mob rushes and long boss fights that are primarily dodging swinging attacks, it kind of just settles into "well, it's still good I guess"
I only played a little bit of Hollow Knight, but I'm interested in trying Silksong. Should I try to finish Hollow Knight first?
Hornet will eventually grow up to look like this
LMAO just beat savage butterfly, you fags said this was hard? took me less than 10 tries
>>720839372yes
Haha what if you have multiple overlapping area denial attacks that can trap and hit you through no fault of your own haha get fucked Trobbio
>>720839372YeahDummy
>>720838643no u fag
>>720839197I thought this was Hornet fucking the Knight except the Knight had thicc legs for some reason
>>720839386sex
>>720839410Yes to what question
>>720839469you only asked one question fruitcake
How come spiders built robots, lasers and teleporters what the fuck
>>720839415you can hit the orbs he tosses before they explode to chuck them to the other side of the room and make them harmless
It's too big. I've just hit 100% completion ready to go down and fight the final boss and have been sick of it for like 10 hours now. They could absolutely have trimmed some of the fat. Dump the fetch quests and some of the mediocre midgame fights so you get into the more interesting end game ones sooner.
>>720839304>I was so fucking hyped for the rest of the game after I unlocked the Beast and Reaper crest, I was like holy shit im ready for all these new diverse movesets and interesting tools and movement options that they're going to throw at me because they know I already beat Hollow Knight and then... none of it really came.Same. Beat GMS and didn't even unlock new crests. I think in Act 2 I got like 3 usable charms and 1 was from the shop.
>>720839372>I only played a little bit of Hollow Knightwhy you stopped?>but I'm interested in trying Silksongwhat of ss gets your attention?they are similar obviously but it seems different people are annoyed by different things in both
Garmond you piece of shit come on out of songclave so I can fight youI did everything else and got the bad ending but you're sitting around jacking off in the church instead of doing anythingGet the fuck over here and grant me the bloodlust I crave
For me, what it comes down to is that everything this game does well, it does SO well that all of my complaints and criticisms just fall by the wayside. There are places where I think it comes up a little short>some of the quests are a bit GAY>muckfaggot areas have too much presence while some of the better areas like sands of karak and mout fay are underused>the economy is ass>etc.But none of that matters to me when I run around the stunning environments, listen to the amazing music, fall in love with the absolutely endearing characters all over the place, make my bellhouse a bellhome, and follow the story, which is fucking PEAK cinema bros. The the introductions to every single act, especially act 3, are sublime. And the Red Memory, holy shit that was fantastic. The vast majority of the bosses were fun and memorable. Building up the settlements was personally rewarding. Exploring the world was engaging. I had a good time most of the time I was playing, and the times where I wasn't were easily excusable because of how much fun I had the rest of the time. I haven't even finished the game yet, still in the middle of act 3 going for 100% or whatever is closest before the final boss. I loved this gameEasily a 9/10, with only minor complaints holding it back from being perfectI think alot of you guys are being too cynical with the game desu
>>720839668hitting them can also put them in a more dangerous spot unless you're hitting them as they launch
no tools, whos harder lost lace or karmelita?
wheres the coral tower shortcut
>>720839835karmelita, no contest
>>720831237I did farm for about 2 hours total. Once in Act 1 at a specific farfields bell bench (not near fast travel) that had 2 ant scouts and 1 non flying ant soldier. Was like 50ish rosaries a run. Did that to grind out the inventories of bonebottom, craftdaughter, and pilgrim's rest. I did my second farm in Act 2 killing the 5 grand reeds over and over. This was a much longer farm than the act 1 farm because I also did all the bell upgrades etc. Never had to grind for shards though. Finished my 100% file with over 1500 in necklaces and max 20 stack of shard bundles.Turns out shitters have a skill issue where they don't even try to learn the boss or progress the fight before they start flinging all their tools. Personally I waited until I had every phase but the (suspected) final phase down before I started using tools on a fight. Except for Groal. He started eating lead on sight.
>>720839304Why is witch locked behind an obscure crest and does shaman come so god damn late into the game? like if you explore the world instead of beelining the the abyss you end up with like 95% completion ratio before you get it and have like 5 bosses left to use it on, and on 2 of them it's ass
>>720834675Yeah it means that I always died a few times to anything but the easiest bosses since I would hold off on any tool use until I felt like I understood the entire moveset
so if the savage beast wasn't hard then what the fuck is? im starting to doybt you fags when it comes to difficulty
>>720839835Lost Lace, easily.Karmelita can easily be blocked with Wanderer.Lost Lace has too much shit happening at once in her later phases.
>>720839835Karmelita is a little harder. Lost Lace is cheesable if you remain passive
>>720839846after the third fight the huge red cone
>>720839835Karmelita is more fun and has better presentation but her fight is very simple.
>>720829991>reach new area>the new mobs have that overly busy playstyle and their own anime parries and it makes them insufferable, fighting them feels like you're waiting for them to stop spazzing out so you can finally play the game>the secrets have become so absurdly obfuscated that you're better off just trying to randomly whack every wall instead of piecing together what kind of secret passage might make sense>go fight the boss>boss has an even more insufferable moveset except he does 2x contact damage even when he's knocked down, you find that out the hard way>boss starts winding up a fast charging attack off-screen so you don't see where it's coming from, he knocks you into a double damage spike in the arena and you respawn right into an unavoidable attack from the boss>die>your silk cocoon decided to spawn deep within the boss arena and not outside it, so you have to repeat the boss fight>fall into a spike trap on the way to the boss, lose 40% of your health, gotta go back to the bench>you gotta pay for each time you want to use the bench>oh wait no shards for the tools - gotta go grind the cancer mobs for tool resources so you're allowed to use your tools>repeat this cycle enough times until you finally surpass the boss or you just abuse the most disgusting OP build to cheese it>the reward is two rosary sticks and a pile of shards, most of which fall into a spike trap below you and blink out of existence, no other reward>move on to next areaTeam Cherry somehow took the very simple yet very effective metroidvania formula of Hollow Knight and somehow turned most of the gameplay into grindy eye roll worthy padding. Baffling that they managed to make Hornet control and fight so well and so fluidly, and then waste it on this kind of gameplay loop.
>>720839796I think it's over...you need to fight him if he want his help with High Halls rape gauntlet. The fight is literal joke.
>bench warp mod is upYep, I'll accept the fact that I won't beat the game. I'll proceed to have fun now
>>720839835for karmelita I honestly just used half my tools to deal with her 2 flying guards (wanderer) she's not too bad herself, way easier than lace at least for me
Does original Hornet theme from base HK play anywhere in Silksong?
>>720838325Yes but it would be better if it weren't
My biggest complaint was the lack of charm synergy like the last game had.It was always fun seeing how certain charms affected others, and I was hoping they would at least keep the system, if not expand it. But instead almost all charms are completely standalone.Even the tools don't interact with each other in any interesting ways either.
>>720830606just download a trainer you fucking retard HAHAHAHAHthat's what i do, imagine fucking wasting hours on an indieslop collecting currency, just toggle infinite rosaries and you're goof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FLRHejWAo8
>>720839980play on PC and just cheat engine in shards
>>720840010Those are two of the easiest flying enemies in the game my man, it's almost hard to get hit by them.
>>720837940this is me but i wasted 2 lives more before I got the solution.>>720837993there is another fast travel option in act 3
>>720831237Shard bundles won't buy themselves. I wish there was a faster way to buy a shitload of bundles. Being an architectGOD is tough on Hornet's butthole, especially in Act 3 when you can barely get a ton of praynal beads anywhere anymore.
>>720831451Sprint shoes and give the blasted path a whirl. If you "lose" kill the enemies along the path then backtrack and do it without resting. It's absurdly easy honestly. Did it without even bothering to enemy clear my second try. First I was just winging the routing on the fly and took a top long route like an idiot.
>>720834364You can see on the bottom left how killing the giant ants registered them in the journal
>>720838325>but is it goodSome zones are, some zones are a total waste of time. You could seriously cut out Wormways, Wisp Thicket, Putrified Ducts, Sands of Karak, Verdania, and Memorium - take the unique content they have and just cram it into the other zones - and the game would lose basically nothing.
widow wasn't hardsavage beast fly wasn't hardwhere's the difficulty? i was promised radahn on steroids but this isn't anywhere close
>>720840160Flying enemies just piss me off, I wanted to get to the fun part already so I just chucked spike traps at them
>>720840050red maiden aka jail part
>>720839867>Turns out shitters have a skill issue where they don't even try to learn the boss or progress the fight before they start flinging all their tools.Shitter here. I don't even spam tools. The ammo consumption is just insane. It's so bad I don't even use them. Now I'm doing Huntress quest where you need to collect meat from killing mobs with specific tools. 0 shards. Still 15 burned left. I need to grind.
bruh this quest seems like a total chore
>>720840261beastfly 2
>>720840261>bro hasn't finished the tutorial
>>720838974Excellent.
>>720840325just keep doing everything else and kill those things on your way
>>720840325It's basically mandatory if you want to make traversal far less painful. Killing those blob motherfuckers drastically reduces the chances of mobs getting AIDS.
Hollow Knight ran so Silksong could fuck it all up
>>720840261depends on the person, PCR took me less tries than most silksong bosses probably because ER is a lot more cheesable
I'm happy for you guys who enjoyed it until the end, but I'm tired. I don't think I'll be attempting act 3. I had fun for almost 30 hours, but it's all gone somehow.
>>720835797I WANT TO FUCK THIS ANT
>>720840440Believe in yourself!
>>720839985Goddamnit, I didn't even know you could get help for that fightThere's so much shit I missed on the way to grandma just from taking wonky routes
>>720840329anyone else think beastfly 2 was way easier than beastfly 1?at least the adds it spawns have the decency to just fucking die after 1 silk spear, unlike the big bugs which not only tank a hit, they can parry it
>>720837515Looks absolute shit
>>720840325There are way more than twelve but yeah it's retarded that the Act 3 changes amount to just those enemy types and rubble everywhere
>>720840508>Goddamnit, I didn't even know you could get help for that fightFun fact, if you don't get Garmond's help, you can get Shakra to help you if you did her questcon: requires delving into bilewaterpro: she solo's the entire thing
Tools and shards were a total mistake. Your ammo needing its own ammo is retarded.Tools are useless for elite players because once you have a boss pattern down to a science, you don't need them at all. But they're also shit for subpar players because if you spam tools just to die anyway, you lose such an absurd amount of shards that you'll soon be forced into grinding to regain access to your tools.And some tool combos are just so baffling that it feels like the devs did not test them. Tacks + cogflies + poison is utter nonsense.
>drop game after Act 2 normal end>comeback later to experience fixed and patched game with DLCEZ
The average 10 year old minecraft map mogs all of the other maps so HA
>>720840524beastfly 2 also spawns big bugs, you got lucky
>>720840524In some ways it's a lot more manageable than the first one because the adds are consistent and you can use the magma bell to make things easier. The new adds are a lot harder to deal with if you can't kill them quickly though
>>720840651more like>got filtered by difficulty>wait for patches that make the game easier
>>720840636>Tools are useless for elite players because once you have a boss pattern down to a science, you don't need them at allproper tool use speeds up a boss battle significantly because of how much damage they do, and even if you're speedrunning and not getting tool upgrades you STILL want flea brew
>>720839980Unfortunately accurate summary of what it's like to play Silksong. You also forgot the part where you see musical notes on the wall, you try playing the needolin, and nothing happens. Repeat that for 10 times in a row until you just say "I miss the dream nail"
>>720835262>any time I would discover a crest and test their moveset for a few seconds I'd just think "naah fuck this gay shit" and return to the wanderer comfort zone.just like vesselGODS intendedWHOREnet the JOBBER who brings tools to a nail fight
That was great. Last fight could've used less parry shit, but otherwise great. Solid 8/10
>>720829991>Rely on Reaper for most of the game>Get kinda bored of it and feel like I'm limiting myself so switch to Witch for a bit>decide to fight First Sinner with it and beat her second try>mfwThis shit rocks. You'd think the Bind would be a huge detriment but once I un-conditioned myself to treat it like a tool I need to run away to use and started treating it like another attack I bust out to top up on health it clicked bigtime. Injector+Multibind also basically turns it into a fast nuke button too.
>>720840329im ready nigga bring it onthe first one was mostly rng anyways, there's a line between difficulty and luck based bullshit and this game is increasingly blurring it>>720840357bro thought bitch fly was hard :skull:
Your "game" made a girl CRY. Are you happy, /v/??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt6V_ncSFMw
Tools should have their damage halved but shards are removed and they just refill for free at benches.We all know Im right
>>720840698eh, honestly I'll take it, first tried beastfly 2 when I spend a god damn hour on 1 game was being nice on me
>>720831451>Also can shitter beat GMS cursed with only two? I heard this curse tied to new crest and once you undone it you can't get cursed ending? I really want new crest...Someone translate this please. It makes no sense to me.
>>720840738more like>filtered by low quality of post Act 1 gameplay, game and map design.
is there really nothing on the surface (other than Mr Mushroom)?
I'm glad that this game is hard which means it's doing its job and filtering the tourists
>>720840838>im ready nigga bring it onhow would you like beastfly if the floor was lava?
>>720830606redditors should be whipped every time they die
ugh who cares about the boss fights everyone who is actually good at the game only cares about the runbacks
>>720840918spoilers?
>>720840935The difficulty doesn't come from tests of skill, but from padding/tedium and baffling design choices such as knocked-down bosses doing double contact damage.
>>720840941i dodged a lot by sticking to the walls so no problemi actually liked the fight, i expected to be obnoxious bullshit but it was fine actually
>>720840845Fuck off faggot. We NEED a shitty worthless filler currency to reduce the amount of the main currency that you can normally get
Man the first Act is 100x easier on a replay. No wonder it feels like the game hasn't been playtested on a first playthrough, they only had like 5 playtesters who probably had 2000 hours each
>>720840116based
I like silksong
>>720841047>the walls>he doesn't know
Can you fully remove the parasite after getting witch?
>>720841009avoiding contact damage is a test of skill>padding/tedium and baffling design choicesexpound
>>720841009>knocked-down bosses doing double contact damage.literally skill issue
>>720841114>floor is lava>no wallswhat's next, fighting freeza in the outer space?
>>7208410472 doesn't have walls and the floor is literal lava
Going from 80% to 100% now, anything that can fuck me up?
>character taking double damage from literally everything is good game design because.......... woman are le weakHOLY BASED
>>720840873Can a low skilled gamer beat Act 2 final boss with 2 nail upgrades (pinmaster meeting and first oil) while suffering the greyroot parasite "curse". I want to get the ending where you beat act 2 final boss while in the infected state, but I also want the crest from getting rid of the infected state.
>>720841223everything
if youve ever said get good or skill issue please post your steel soul run
>>720841187the adds have range attacks that deal 2 masks worth of damage
bilewater having random enemy placement is pretty unforgivable ngl
Hollow Knight was better even though it was way simpler.
>>720840984nvm I found it
>>720840910Act 2 is way better than 1 though
>>720841261
>>720841261>please post your quit to main menu when you reach 3 masks run
>>720841258act 2 final boss is easier than last judge, should be possible
>>720841258Oh...There's an ending for beating the game infected? Interesting. I'll have to look that one up.
>>720841303ss is unironically overcooked
Does the knight get mentioned ever in silksong or is he just gone forever?
>>720841303the art bump for silksong is incredible but yeah i agree
>>720832695High halls had a better music.
>>720840636If they got rid of shards you'd have to nerf the damage on every tool because you'd always have them. They way they're balanced now lets you pick and choose when you need that edge in a fight instead of mindlessly spamming them. I imagine a lot of people would gladly take that tradeoff just to avoid farming though
>>720841497your tools are still limited per bench use so it's not like you can infinitely spam them
>>720840835For me First Sinner was brutalizing me on Reaper, then I slapped on Wanderer and GGEZ. Since then I became a Wanderer main. Maybe Reaper just kinda sucks once you have any other crests
>farming>kill questswhy did TC add these lmao wtf
>>720841451During Act3's ending he appears to save the day
>>720841451The knight makes an appearance evenThe Hollow Knight however is not mentioned, which is weird considering that one ending scene
>>720841626The hype was to high, they knew that they could get away with it (and they did)
>>720841626Elden Ring broke them
>>720841623reaper is great if you take full advantage of it's reach and time your heals so you get maximum silk return from themreaper also has 2 tool slots while wanderer has 3 yellow for some insane reason (literally nobody needs 3 yellow slots)
>>720830067>>720829991Has anybody EVER tried to cryptograph these maps in the traditional Metroidvania style of square maps?because who the fuck decided that the way they displayed the map was a good idea?
>>720841626>the silver bell quest which just makes you do laps around the area waiting for dropswhy
>>720841623reaper is good for pogo and platforming. the cooldown on each single attack makes it really clunky for boss fights
>>720841627He also shows up in a flashback
>>720841141Yes, go ask around in Bellhart.
>>720840835Reaper is a safe choice but it can only take you so far.
>>720841676Consider the Radiance spreads by people remembering she exists I imagine Hornet is doing her very best to not fucking mention anything about it just in case a small part of it survived
Me and the boys
The knight is the gordon freeman of hollow knight
>>720841848YJK
>>720841746Someone did it for Hollow Knight.https://www.hallownest.net/
>>720836193>holy fucking fuck please speed up the entering dream sequence it's slow as fuck and took like 2 seconds in the original hollow knight how do you fuck this up?I was stuck on Nyleth for a bit and this was pissing me off. Why did they make it so long?
>>720840835I like using trobbio's mirror with witch as wellit does like 6 attacks worth of damage in aoe around you every time you heal
>>720841590Shards are a long term limitation compared to the hard limit which is short term. Tools are really powerful, having unlimited access to them even with the hard limit would make the whole game trivial. Basically every boss would just be you unloading all your tools whereas in the current system you only do that if you really need it or you really don't want to properly fight the boss
>youre complaining>team cherry just delivered one of the best games of the decade and you're complaining
I keep reading that there is nothing to miss but I can't find this
How feasible is a tool only run, do you think? Mainly for Arenas and Bosses, I dont wanna imagine if it was expanded further
>>720830737Holy fuckballs, good find, but...>No Super Junkoid>No X-Fusionoh well.
>>720842070merit where it's due, it's a great game overall, but some baffling decisions deserve to be questioned
>>720842081Maybe thats the steel soul only tool ?
>>720842008To be honest if someone dumps full tools on architect and fails to kill a boss Im so fucking baffled at how shit they are.Tools in general feel like cheating with how much damage they do.Caltrops alone can fucking solo kill an entire phase.
>>720841261sure>rushes fractured mask>quit loads every time it popsheh
Bilewater has a second bench r..right?
>>720841261what if i say pebkac>>720841258i'm low skilled and i managed so you can do
>>720841909Team Cherry even did it in one of their first trailers
>>720841861Mr. Mushroom is G-Man then
>>720842070SS is a 8 or 9/10 but the missing points are from some obviously terrible parts that just makes me people wonder wtf were TC thinking
>>720842150i can only imagine they heard about tools being busted and haven't obtained any of the damage upgrades for them
>>720842167Yes but it's hidden
>>720841832Fair enough.Think she killed the Hollow Knight afterwards then?
>>720841367>>720842158I beat the first Hollow Knight steel soul legitimately. No quit outs.The fact that you think nobody can do it with Silk Song reinforces the other anon's point.
>>720841909>>720841746>https://www.hallownest.net/Not bad find, but i meant a map that looks like this, you know, traditional?
>>720842008what actually ends up happening is people get stuck on a boss, lose shards, and have to farm also if it was true you weren't supposed to use tools that much most crests wouldn't have 2 tool slots and the only non-tool crest wouldn't be locked behind completing 90% of the game
>>720842245>>720842245>>720842245
>>720833036>dueled her honorablyWhich crest ?
>>720842081Nothing that is required for 100% is missable*
>>720840636>Tools are useless for elite players because once you have a boss pattern down to a science, you don't need them at allI'm not going to even bother reading the rest of your post after this. If you learn a boss then tools became even more effective since they can melt bosses faster than your nail.
>>720842257don't think that ending is canon, I'm pretty sure they went with the non-pantheon ending
>>720842008>Tools are really powerful, having unlimited accessI have BIG BRAIN idea.How bout>reduce maximum tool usage per bench? Oh yeah tools are strong but now they're pretty limitedor>nerf them insteadSilksong didn't invent "abilities/magic". >architect in the game>nooo you can't use tools it's bad please don't grind Another great idea>remove all tools and replace them with magic and charms
is nigger lace harder than absolute radiance?
>>720842267>The fact that you think nobody can do it with Silk Songnobody ever said thatbut SS is infinitely times harder so it will take like solid 100+ hours to do legit, im not a streamer to fucking bother especially since i despise perma deaths
How do I fight Shakra? does the Slea Caravan need to move from greymoor?
>>720842470>but SS is infinitely times harderExactly this point. Running around clutching your cock and uttering "muffgin skill issue, git gud" is silly, when the game is way harder than an already decently challenging game.
every time i get to something you guys have been complaining about im like, "that was it?"coral tower isnt even fucking hard
>>720842567>does the Slea Caravan need to move from greymoor?For starters, yes.And then buy all of her maps. At which point Shakra's wish will show up in Bellhart. Complete it, and she'll show up in Greymoor.
wait am I dumb? How do you go back to the abyss? Surely jumping in lava is a bad idea
>>720842648My bröther every time you hear someone complaining they end up posting the most absolute dogshit gameplay you've ever seenedIt's baffling
>>720842874>He didn't go back to Ballow to show that you sruvived
>>720842874Talk to the same guy as before i guess
>>720842008How about tools refill at benches free. Greatly decrease tool damage on bosses to shift the focus of tool usage more onto the crowd control niche. Architect crest then exists to make tools more viable for fighting bosses. That way people use tools more in exploration and less while fighting bosses, which I think encourages more experimentation and adds variety.
>>720842921seened
>>720843013No that anon, but I just left the abyss earlier today. And I thought about going to the guy, but he was out of the way, so I just said "fuck it"
>>720842304Well yeah, the system completely falls apart if you're stubborn enough to actually use up all the shards. I'm not calling it perfect or even ideal, but it does have a purpose at least
>>720842123It's kinda old at this point, and besides, the stupid fucking pixel limit (even though the file size is well under the limit) would make it difficult to add any more
>>720830606He's talking about Savage Beastfly, isn't he?
>>720842081It's the generic courier delivery item. Not sure if you have to do just one or one to each location to get it to show up there.
>>720830837You run out of shards when you 1) fail to collect them again and 2) stop attacking enemies on a runback so you can get straight to the boss without taking any damage. It happened to me.
>>720842274someone did but the stupid fucking retard posted on Reddit and got compressed as fuck
>>720829991i never played either game should i buy this?
>>720835279The game is actually easier than HK
