>Make one mistake>Lose
just like real life hahaha am i right?
Shouldn't have picked a glass cannon character
I don't care for 3S, but I'll give it credit for being the one game to balance AkumaMarvel 2 doesn't count because he might as well be unfinished in that game
>>720830006>spend years perfecting combos and follow ups>matches are decided on the first moverock paper scissors has more strategy
>>720830006I mean, that is 3S Akuma
>>720830006>be silly jap>open round 2 on a hadouken while opponent has full bar>use hadouken with the highest recovery frames on top of thatHe threw that match on purpose
>>720830006>MODERN FIGHTING GAMES ARE TOO CRAZY WITH THE HIGH DAMAGE!!!>Meanwhile third strike aka the "supposed best" fighting game ever:You can't show me a modern fighting game where it only took one whiff to take the whole round. It takes more than a singular mistake to lose a round in any fighting game these days despite the high damage. Akuma literally could not press anything to get out of that after that one whiff.
>>720830006What does fireball on round start even cover? also gawdlike urien
>>720831042If Urien hadn't jumped on frame 1 he would have lost the neutral even parrying, with Akuma starting to do his shit while Urien is on bloking/parry animation.
How to fix fighting games:- Remove stick motions + button press inputs completely. No hybrid control schemes; full removal where special attacks are mapped to buttons and you the most complex input is [direction] + [button] - Get rid of stocks, super bars and the like; just give cooldowns to supers. - Get rid of long combos: after the third hit automatically end the combo and return both players to the starter positionDone! Now fighting games are accessible and fun.
>>720830006Heh, nothin' personal Gouki
>>720831246Behold! The perfect fighting game!
>>720830006If 100% combos exist there's no point in having combos. Make every hit an instant KO.
>>720831497t. Divekick player
>>720830550I think sf4 had a more measured damage output.3rd strike is a good fighting game, but its unbalanced and those who say otherwise havent played it competitively
>>720830550>Meanwhile third strike aka the "supposed best" fighting game everThat's the pleb opinion. The real super elitist snobs will always pick some obscure anime game with a bunch of non-standard mechanics mixed into it, like Arcana Heart for example.
>>720831246>Get rid of stocks, super bars and the like; just give cooldowns to supers.I wouldn't say this would make it more accessible. There's plenty of normalfag super-popular games with chargeable ultimates and they never complain about it.
>>720831784arcana heart, for when +r is too likely to get your bluff called
>>720830550the issue now is not the high damage, you invented an explanation for why people are saying that. its a combination of the high damage, the wallcarry and then the purposefully designed 50/50 on oki. You can make up random shit for why the imaginary person in your argument is wrong but whiff punish into full wall carry and guess for game making it a 2 touch instead of a 1 touch game instead is not suddenly proving anything about the current situation is gooddoubly so if the entire system is designed to include free resources and global mechanics for chimps that heard so much about legendary fighting game moments and want to feel good doing it themselves.>spend years practicing combos and tight reactions to get maximum damage>Timmy gets most of his openings on a single button, does a combo he found from a pro streamer and just picks from two options that allow him to do another comboits trite and you cant convince people to like modern fighting games by saying "oh you just dont like it because-". theyre shit and people dont have to justify dropping them the same way they aint gotta justify not liking SFII>>720831246fun for who? retards? so if you make it "fun" for retards- why would they still play when someone who isnt a fucking idiot still comes out massively ahead and stomps them like in a normal fighting game
>>720830006>be worst genre
>>720831316who is this retard again? the sf5 skip? the sf6 skip? i forgot its name.
>>720830006Common W for SF4GODS
>>720831784Asuka 120% is pretty cool though
Fireballs need to be buffed overall for every single fg going forward.
>>720830006scrubs in here acting like this is some kind of gotcha, like they can pull this off on reaction, most of you don't even play this game. Get the fuck outta here
>>720832413Hey, I didn't say they were bad games.
>>720832475The fact that it CAN be pulled off on reaction is a problem in of itself. Unless you think the experience of competitive players is irrelevant, I guess.
>>720831246Ready 2 rumble?https://youtu.be/0FyEvepCMfkOnly buttons, button with one direction or two directions and button, combos are pretty much RUMBLE mode exclusive.
>>720831246You could just do the stuff Smash did.
>>720832356SF4 really fucked itself with the Ultra characters and now it's stuck in that state forever.
>>720832356>>7208300062D fighting games look so much better than 3D it's ridiculous
>>720832162>CHADkoto not in two shitty gamesOh no!Anyway
>>720831595Divekick is what all fighting games wish they could be.
>>720831913kek
>>720832652>The fact someone can reach the highest level of skill required to execute a manoeuvre is a problem in itselfand what is that comment about pro player experience supposed to mean? youre not supposed to put yourself in those situations in the first place as a pro player, youre supposed to try and create them for yourself. When was the last time you watched any pro gameplay and they didnt profit from their experience? what the fuck are you talking about?>There shouldnt be things that require significant skillwhat?then why fucking play competitively?
>>720832356Like it or not, SF4 is the peak of the fighting genre. Yes, its has its rough spots, but I can find you way more embarrassing matches on other fighting games than on SF4
Host 3s lobby
>>720833784I hope you're talking about a later update, because 1.0 was so block coded you had the E.Honda perfect time out matches that's now buried in the internet. Blocking was so good, you were better for the other player to push a button.
>>720834076I wish you could host private lobbies in fightcade
>>720834080Yeah, Im talking about the super street fighter 4 version. This was the peak. Ultra SF4 jumped the shark with elena, evil ryu and red focus
>>720830006>CRUSH>CRUSH>NNNYGAHHHUrien is the only good SF character besides Q
>>720834181play the capcom collection piratechud
>>720832652>The fact that it CAN be pulled off on reaction is a problem in of itselfHow is it a problem that a player with thousands of hours of experience can pull crazy shit like this?The point is not even that, what I'm saying is that people who can barely pull off a bnb talking shit about the Urien player's skill, like they can pick the controller and just win a 3S tournament.Scrubs who don't even know what's going on in the video using it to propose a solution on "how to fix fighting games"Get a grip
>>720830006>>720832652>>720832475Post the video how someone won with the worst move in the entire game
>>720834938Hell to the no would I give capcom money for that
>>720830550>You can't show me a modern fighting game where it only took one whiff to take the whole round.unless you omit needing stocks from your conditions, sf6 guile has a touch of death unless it's been patched out. It's not easy of course.
>>720830006Akuma (who has less than 1000 hit points and the smallest stun bar in the game) vs Urien (who gets to beat the shit out of you the moment he gets a juggle).Thats also RX, the God of all Urien players in his prime.For a real character that wins off of 1 read, see Makoto or Yun.
>>720830006What fighting game is good to get into? SF6 is ugly and you have to buy all the characters to practice against. Strive is trannies and still requires you to buy all the characters too. Skullgirls imploded. Tekken is imploding. Its over.
Fighting games are for the most severe autists only
>>720837443blazybros
>>720837443Best one of current games is GrandBlue Fantasy, and the first game is a lot better for that.So I actually recommend older games to get into the genre: SF2, SF3, SF4 have different ways to make basics matterArt of Fighting 2 made many of the basics of games later, AoF 3 is a weird mix between 2D and Tekken.Virtua Fighter 2, VF4, SoulCalibur and DoA2 are the best 3D games. SoulCalibur 6 if you want meter.There is more good games, but they're more complicated.
>>720830550>>You can't show me a modern fighting game where it only took one whiff to take the whole round.Dizzy in Strive has a TOD at 50 meter, if she's cornered, and she gets a counterhit 2H, it works even on Potemkinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1bJ8Kb7Py4This one has not been patched out unlike some others like May 5H at the start of Season 4
>>720830253He's still top 5, just Chun and Yun being stupidly strong is the reason why he's not top tier
>>720830517This. Anyone not able to read this has their opinion invalidated in the thread. 99% of /v/ and /vr/ are pathetic in the topic of fighters.
>>720830006Just like real life papu...
>>720838316Does the grab reset the damage? The damage of the attacks after it is retarded.Specially with that weird stop with the lifebar depleting itself while waiting for the dress getting done with it's animation before the last move.
>>720833784I'd agree if we were talking about Super, but the later editions broke the game's balance in a lot of ways.
i'll take any version of sfiv over sf6, that includes AE yun. Balance doesn't matter if the game is fun
>>720839247She has this move, Wings Of Light, which is sort of like an install that does nothing on its ownAfter 10 seconds, if she has not been hit, or has not teched a grab, it will trigger an AOE that will constantly drain people's health at the cost of her meter provided they are close enoughThe damage done is unscaled, ignores character defensive modifiers, and does not build meter for the opponent, so even characters with the most health can take up to something like 60% damageIt is also applied if they're blocking or even if they're attacking youThere's a slight "pause" in the damage in that combo because the grab animation puts them slightly out of the reach of that hitboxShe can grab Potemkin in the combo because Blue Wild Assault causes a stagger state, this is universal and possible on a bunch of moves
Is it gay streamers as to why 3S has been given unwarranted positive attention? Alpha 2/3 blows this game out of the water.
>>720840269when vanilla sf4 released most people were unhappy with it and went back to 3s and then people realized it was bussin frfr on cap and then it became posers holy grail
>>720838179Anything with a goof singleplayer campaign? Inb4 soul calibur
>>720840269It's because of fightcade and japs(now EVO as well) still hosting big-time tournaments for it.It's also a good game.
>>720840269yes and the meme daigo parry. the game is absolute ass post low level
>>720840378Console versions of SFalpha3 came with the world tour mode, it's great for single player.Red Earth is a weird arcade game about playing alone against big monsters.Shaolin for the PSX has an RPG where your character digievolves with your choices. Tobal has a dungeon mode, maybe jap exclusive.If you can handle anime shit, the Blazblue series has a gigantic visual novel with fights waiting for you.Virtua Fighter 4 evo tournament quest mode, a very meta mode about becoming the best arcade player of your character around the world with computer players with names playing different and shit. Is more of a grind than a story mode.
>>720830006>glass cannon has every tool he needs to control neutral safely>decides to standing fireball at jump-in rangeswastika pose
>>720840269>Alpha 2/3 blows this game out of the water.Then why come no one plays it?
>>720841567Forgot the student mode in the japanese version of Rival Schools.
>>720842097you retarded? no moment #37
>>720830006Well no, he made 2>picking Gouki>mid range fireball
>>720842401this guy
>>720830006Back then stuff like this was actually hard. These days combos are so easy that everyone will kill you if you make one mistake.
>>720842401Why would that matter if Alpha is superior? SFIV had its fair share of moments and hype but it's also dead because people moved on, so why didn't they move on from 3s?.
>>720842401Yeah, no. Custom combos are terrible to make people find the game and say they will play that.
>>720842743moment #37
>>720842875Then that one single combo makes two entire games irrelevant, and you still have the gall to say they are better.
>>720838179>GrandBlue Fantasyversus rising or just versus? steam has both right now.
>>720830006Literally all good competitive games are like that, the ones with comeback mechanics are extremely lame and gay.
>>720843089neither its a shit game that will put you to sleepdont listen to grubblers
>>720842039>swastika poseI see it now
>>720837443>Strive is trannies and still requires you to buy all the characters too.a lot of the release characters are high/top tier
so how come fighting games have progressed while RTS is still focused around starcraft 1?
>>720842039>swastika posewhy does arcsys keep doing this i thought they went woke
>>720843232ok i wont then. >>720843279yeah i know. i like strive too but the constant trannies stuff is annoying. cant go a single day without bridget. maybe im terminally online but it gets annoying.
>/v/eddit post an RX match as somehow a gotcha of bad designwow nigger, posting the literal best Urien player of history is like such bad design.Clearly the genre is flawed if a single player in history can do that.
>>720843383
>>720843506nigga bridget is a free win, this character's dogshit
>>720843383Please understand we do it for the hitboxes, we do not praise Hitler purposefully *apologetic bow*
>>720843716thats true. i farmed some bridget named boob for a ton of ranked points.
>>720840269I prefer 3S over the SF Zero series because of the dashes
>>720843383umm its sign of peace and prosperity
>>720843089Just versus is far more "SF2 with a few extras", Rising is more of an Arcsys game.
>>720843630kill yourself cris
>>720837443Buy doa5 and doa6 so they will make doa7. Doa5 is still great fun, but don't play doa6 of course only an idiot would do that.
which fighting games have good nooch
>>720840378There was a tekken with a fun singleplayer. 6? 7? Dont remember. Also mortal kombat usually has good singleplayer campaigns. New one is woke tho don't play that. DOA games have dumb and goofy story but not that much of it.
>>720830006Talk me out of buying a hitbox, playing on a controller completely destroys my thumb on the dpadAlso, how alive is 3S on fightcade?
>>720844586Just use a keyboard.
>>720844586just use chink hitbox
>>720844586>>720844673>>720845053What happened to playing stick?
>>720844586Its literally just the same as using a keyboard, its fucking stupid to pay more for less
>>720844673I was thinking of trying it out, before moving onto >>720845053 a Haute42 to be exact
>>720845441Shitters that think they'll get an advantage and/or stop being shit because they're using the "optimal" control set. I'm not even saying hitboxes are bad inherently, but the people that buy them the vast majority of the time...
>>720844469>noochwhat now?>>720844586Very much alive, also use stick
>>720837443Virtua Fighter 5 or the upcoming remake!
>>720844469Any Samsho Koihime Enbu
>>720845441>>720845509I was also thinking of buying chink parts from alixepress and building a stick on my own because in my 3rd world sticks are way too expensive
>>720840378Try Killer Instinct 2013
>>720845732>anime iadsloppa >noochtsk tsk
>>7208300063rd shite fucking sucks to play but damn RX swagging out always looks cool>>7208305503rd strike is my least favorite SF. people don't care for high damage. stupid high damage even. no one is getting mad because they died from one blanka hit in 2x. they get mad when they lost 80% because they BLOCKED a button and had to sit and watch for 30 seconds to lose that 80%. at least when i die in 2x i'm dead and back again very quickly. >>720838892nah top 7 sure. but not top 5>>720831246>force the game to use more buttons>now the game is more accessible. not more accessible to me, my controller only has 6 buttons, thanks prick.>>720845674would be if the online wasn't shit>>720837443fightcade games or VF5:WS if they fix the online.
why are modern fighting games so remedial
>>720847508Koihime Enbu is just Samsho but more anime. It doesn't have airdashes.
>>720848034>VF5:WS>>720845674thanks.
>>720830006Look, if you had one shot or one opportunityTo seize everything you ever wanted in one momentWould you capture it or just let it slip?
>>720842423>>720830006achtually, he also let urine get a meter first
How to fix fighting games>make them turn based
>>720831497byproduct of an era where they wanted you to spend billions sweating out combos
>>720830306Just play a better fighting game.
>>720850270they already are
>>720850362>blazpoo>good
>>720850362>KAMIblue>goodpick 2
>>720850270>>720850501You joke but there's a game called Your Only Move is Hustle and it's basically that and it's unironically kino.It's a strategy fighting game that pauses between each action taken and the two players need to make a move at the same time.
>>720852087Your Only Move is Hustle? How the heck did they come up with that name LOL?
>>720850270How soon they we forget
>>720830006Speaking of good matches:https://youtu.be/cZ-6kz5LyiI?si=Cif-8i7LuRbHUmTg3rd round. Sick.
>>720831246literally none of these suggestions has ever or will ever work.
>>720852142It's an anagram for yomi.
>>720852142Hustle is effectively the taunt in the game and it basically gives you super meter.
>>720852007found the guilty troon
