>kills your interest in Pokemon forever
>>720861541>DUDE WHAT IF WE FORCE YOU TO USE THE NEW MONS FOR THE MAIN STORY INSTEAD OF YOUR FAVORITES? WHAT? YOU DONT LIKE THEM? TOO BADFuck Gen 5
but enough about XY
>>720861659>What is Dream World?
>>720861659it's not that i had to use the new ones, that's not the problemthe problem was that most of the early pokemon suck ass to use and all the actually cool ones are restricted to late and post game due to stupidly high evolution levels, and locked to post game in volcarona's case
>>720861659you sound like a fag
>>720861659>Gamefreak got more pushback for Gen V having only new Pokemon than X/Y did for its lazy story, shit writing, lack of content and garbage 3D modelsB/W was the last Pokemon game that had real effort put in and it got slammed by retards for it.
>>720861780> and locked to post game in volcarona's caseyou get a larvesta egg in route 18
>>720861541It was fine, actuallyXY was abysmal, and ORAS somehow even worse, they were what did it for me, I didn't even finish OR
>>720861659>NYOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!Downvote Gamefreak! This is a holy heckin Chungus Transgression!!! I need muh heckin zubat, psyduck and tentacoolerino in EVERY pokemon gen. You beppin chuds ruined my pokemon. I'll never get muh heckin wifes boyfriend to buy me pokemon funkopops EVER AGAIN.
NOOOOO WHERE IS CHARIZARD FROM KANTOOOOOOOOO???
>>720861541I LOOOOOVERESHIRAMM
>>720861659>I want to use the same pokemon I've had since Gen1 because I am autistic and can't comprehend trying something newYou are boring. And thanks to fags like you, modern games keep getting more stale. You don't just eat the slop, you literally beg for it.
Millennials killed pokemon.
>>720861659jokes on them, zorua and zoroark are one of my favs
>Gym>Route>Dungeon>Gym>Route>Dungeon>Gym>Route>Dungeon>Gym>Route>Dungeon>Gym>Route>Dungeon>Gym>Route>Dungeon>Gym>Route>Dungeon>Gym>Route>Dungeon
>>720863054>>720861709
these threads are made by the same faggot that keeps spamming the GoySlopCrap gen poo nostalgia threads
>>720863118See, it's different as XY is only guilty of that pacing after Gym 2
>>720861659This is what Unovafags hope is true for every BW critic.The truth is that the Gen 5 dex really is awful.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LEbLAFHo5Ts>BW isn't kin-ACK!
>>720863118I've seen people complain about XY having slow pacing early on and it's so weird. When I was playing it for the first time I really enjoyed the slower pace of the first 3-4 gyms, but immediately after that it was basically >>720863054 except no dungeon. Just gym > route > gym > route > gym > route
>>720863810The one winged angel of Pokemon.
>>720861709B/W’s story is so melodramatic for the setting it is just weird and doesn’t work imo it takes way too much suspension of disbelief
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>>720865267>it takes way too much suspension of disbeliefwhat do you mean? i think grunts could have been portrayed more subtly
>>720861541Gen 5 was the last gen I enjoyed the single player. I really like how everything before the postgame was new. it gave the games a fresh sense, not unlike the first time I played Red.
>>720863468It has roughly the same percentage of good designs vs bad designs as the other gens, it's just inflated by having more pokemon than other gens.
>>720861541It dissapointed me extremely but didn't kill my interest, that was the shift to 3D.>>720861659This. Apologists be damned, they can cope all their want but time proved it was the wrong call.
we need another gen with 150+ mons
>>720861659The designs were universally despised and they led to the creation of regional variants
>>720861541I see you got BTFO'd from /vp/ again, Yawnie.Anyway, that's not Sword and Shield.Would've said XY, but that was saved by virtue of me being a teenager and swearing the games would've gotten better. Obviously I know better now.
>>720866124>The designs were universally despisedliterally just lying now huh
>multiple pro gen 2 threads popping up on /v/ recently>multiple anti BW1 threads popping up on /v/ recentlyHmm, totally real not organized raid discussion.
>>720866124>The designs were [FANFIC]
>>720861824>B/W was the last Pokemon game that had real effort put inB/W was a rehash of Kanto. Why do you think Bouffalant isn't Tauros evolution?>>720863810>>720865096That's B/W2's Gethsis.
>>720861659This was based and I wish more devs had the balls to do things like this.
>>720866124A lot of gen 5 designs are hit or miss. I like some of them a lot, while others feel like filler because they wanted 150ish new ones. Regional variants were done well in gen 9
>>720866232They're still trying to force this imaginary war? Johto and Unova were back to back. Combined with Platinum, we had a golden era, and the second best time to be a Pokemon fan.
Why don't you gay retards understand. It wasn't being forced to use weird new pokemon in lieu of our epic gen 1 favourites. It's that these weird new pokemon were FUNCTIONALLY THE SAME as classic pokemon minus years of accumulated familiarity. I don't give a fuck if I don't get to see geodude but why in the world would it's substitute be another rock type with sturdy and requiring a trade for its third form? Why replace our familiar annoyingly common 2 stage bat with another, uglier, annoyingly common two stage bat? They dipped a toe into doing something totally different but couldn't go all the way.
>>720866220>>720866247revisionism.
>>720866362In every pro gen 2 thread if you criticize it you get called an Unova zoomer. It's definitely being forced by some reddits in a discord or some shit
>>720866281>bufalos are bulls!smartest gen 5 hater.
>>720861541Gen 7 was what killed my interest in Pokemon
3 > 5 > 2 > 4 > 1Any gens past 5 are irrelevant. They don't exist.
>>720861659Imagine playing a new pokemon game for the new pokemon, that's crazy.
>>720866365so did you want them to not ever make another rock mon, or new fish, or another bat, or...? Because pokemon has always had various different takes on the same archetype. The worst thing BW did was frontload some of the less interesting designs, like woobat.
>>720866284GF unironically had the courage to not include pikachu, not even in the post game.
>>720861659That was based. The main campaign should have always been new gen only and previous gen should have been for postgame.
>>720866494Nobody cares about the details; the regional bird at early game is a bird no matter what they're based around
>>720866649Based magikarp making it into black and white when pikachu didn't
ORAS for me
>>720866284Anyone that does this fails miserably, ask Capcom with SF3, they did same thing
>>720861541I only ever liked Diamond and Pearl / Platinum. I was never big into Pokemon other than that, so when I saw the announcements for Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, I was fairly excited, even knowing Game Freak's track record of absolutely awful 3D games. Then it comes out and the characters are still tiny chibi forms and there had to be a day 1 patch to "fix" the music (they didn't even finish the soundtrack in time). I don't think I've ever been more disappointed upon release of a game, and I'm glad I didn't buy these, nor have I ever bought a Nintendo system post-Wii.
>>720866815Same. It kept trying to wow me with upgraded ("upgraded") visuals and cinematics but I was just so unimpressed with the whole thing.
>Faggot that grew with gen VI~IX so assblasted he played shitty games on childhood that must criticize the last good gameNo one is jealous of you on this thread
>>720866365Crustle > KinglerSeismitoad > PoliwrathScolipede >>> BeedrillJust to name a few. For me its about 50/50 with Kanto, which has its fair share of shitty mons, but people forget about them because they're so fixated in muh charizard
>>720866851I disagree. To a certain extent you need to be willing to and have the spine to say fuck the fans and make what you want to make. Because if fans had their way then we'd get nothing but endless rehashes on a downward spiral of "Do the cool part again!" and drool at the screen as Darth Vader does another epic badass entrance and dominating fight scene. Now, that doesn't automatically mean that whatever you put out is going to be better than that. You can just as easily say fuck the fans and put out some dogshit.
>>720867014esl
>>720865451It’s really hard for me to buy into the idea that the evil team is actually managing to convince people that human-Pokemon relations are bad, I think it’s too reliant on the player’s meta opinion of the setting and the grunts like you said are too unsubtle for that premise to be palatable to me
>>720867654but team plasma never actually convinces more than like 1 or 2 people max of their stance. Literal first town you go to that they show up in everyone goes>Huh? Pokemon don't like being with us?>But that's crazy!and then when they leave they say>Man that was crazy, I never imagined that beforeand>My pokemon love being here, team plasma are a bunch of looniesand that's why plasma goes mask off so readily
>>720861659Fpbp. There's a reason why people overwhelmingly prefer B2W2.>b-but muh world tournament and exploring the other side of UnovaThat's entirely post-game.
>>720867654I think it can work even without a meta reading, because it’s like their argument to convince people is: “Sure, the human Pokémon relationship seems to work well, but who decided that? How did it happen?” It’s a kind of skepticism about how modern people don’t really know their origins with Pokémon. That’s why the lore about the original dragon (and also PLA) gives a more interesting answer to that question, without needing the more meta angle about Pokémon battles being like animal abuse, which has been shown to not make much sense within the setting many times. I agree it could’ve been told better tho
>>720867508>I disagree.You can't disagree with reality, only being in denial or deluded. >To a certain extent you need to be willing to and have the spine to say fuck the fans and make what you want to make.It's called being stupid, when you have something that works you don't need let alone have to change it as a clean slate to start over>Now, that doesn't automatically mean that whatever you put out is going to be better than that. You can just as easily say fuck the fans and put out some dogshit.Exactly the case with gen 5's first title and SF3; change for the sake of change is never good just like stuff that ends polarizing, another things gen 5's first game is quite related
Are any of the 3D games worth playing? I think Gamefreak made a mistake going to 3D. Those games look so bad. Why didn't ask the Mario guys for help?
>>720863810>>720865096>>720866281superior versionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U--YwxIoRs0
>>720868068>you have to do everything the fans want you to >nothing good can ever happen when you don't listen to fans>you shall have no creative libertyNah that's how we ended up in this endless slop era we're currently living in.
>>720868123ORAS is kind of mid at best. Only one worth playing mainly because the dexnav is a really fun feature. USUM is also okay but the story is worse than normal SM and there's too much dialogue and story to begin with.
>>720868123Only ORAS due Hoenn love and US/UM due fixing most of the base version's flaws. Everything else is cancer. X/Y are nice as to see them and get out
>>720867809Yeah, at first no one takes Team Plasma seriously, but things get more ambiguous when Ghetsis says N awakened the legendary. That’s when people start thinking: “If the legendary listened to the leader of Team Plasma… does that mean they’re right?"
>>720868198lmao i only knew the castelia city version, thanks for sharing
>>720868291to be fair appeal to authority works irl for even more retarded ideas so I'm fine with this. Especially considering it's basically them looking at a deity for them anyway, even higher authority for them.
>>720868247>you have to do everything the fans want you toThat's a retarded extremist way to counter-argument. You can have lots of space within the rules of what works, with gen 5 they chose to take every wrong one>nothing good can ever happen when you don't listen to fansThis is correct; they're your first and best focal group.
>>720868123legends arceus is the only one that isn't total dogshit
>>720861659>WHAT IF WE FORCE YOU TO USE THE NEW MONS FOR THE MAIN STORY INSTEAD OF YOUR FAVORITES?
>>720861541>Literally justified the creation of vp>Rekindled my interest in Pokémon>All the Pokémon were new meaning it was fresh for both old and new players to the franchise>leak season(s) was always exciting because of this
>>720868438Nah. Creative liberty dies when you're not allowed to take risks.
>>720868532Pokemon has done that plenty way before gen 5's pulling the DmC
>>720861659It's a different region retard
>>720867809Were shown that the divide exists within Team Plasma between True Believers and actors though, so at least some people have been convinced. And then N being able to talk to Pokemon is also retarded shit I forgot to mention
>>720868668n is a zoroarkand that's kino
>>720868659Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh are laughing at you
>>720868712That’s a fan theory that arose out of just how retarded that plot point is and not the intent
>>720861541That was either USUM or the LGPE announcement, I don't remember
Bro compared to what we get now BW is a masterpiece
>>720868730Johto and sinnoh are both right fucking next to kanto, of course some of the mons can walk over, and Hoenn isnt that far from them. Unova is hundreds of miles away
Gen 5 was the Shadow The Hedgehog moment for the series. It was the Sonic Adventure. It was the Homestuck. It was the entry where the creatives said “we want to realize Pokémon’s full potential”, and gave it an in-depth story with a well-thought-out core concept and legendaries that survived being cut from Mother 3, and the normalfags stomped their feet and said NO! We don’t WANT this series we proport to care about to be complex and be taken seriously! We need it to fit our condescending perception of it as an insipid children’s cartoon with no depth and extremely minimal everything so as to avoid any chance of complexity! That’s AUTISTIC!And, so, the legend of Gen 5’s sabotaged reputation began.
>>720868840ok but it's kino
>>720868940>all this copingOrange Islands are laughing as well.>b-but not canonUnova post-game as well laughing
>>720868712is that the R=U of pokemon?
>>720863810>you now remember when the OST got leaked and /v/ thought that BGM was chanting DENNIS DENNIS, and also that it played for Genesect
>>720869191>ynr NO ES FAKE
>>720869176It's not cope its the truth, you're just too much of a nigger to accept it
How does /v/ feel about Drayano hacks?
>>720869356I just started Blaze Black 2 Redux and it’s been fine so far…
>>720869334>you're just too much of a nigger to accept itThat's ironic considering Unova has other mons destroying your tiny attempt of a point
>>720861541Honestly, I dropped ruby after the second gym and never touched a first party Pokémon game since
>>720869356Outdated. Fine for their time but more romhacks have released that are harder and are less of a pain to grind in. Renegade Platinum is the best one, and the least annoying one. No disrespect to Drayano of course, he inspired a lot of these new romhackers and his hacks are still in the top 3 for games like the Gen 5 entries.
>>720867654>It’s really hard for me to buy into the idea that the evil team is actually managing to convince people that human-Pokemon relations are badShit like this happens in real life, like when people want to convince you that being a man is actually harmful or take away your guns but give it to the mentally ill because defending yourself is bad. They manipulate the public in pokemon to convince them that the perfect nature is actually flawed.
>>720861659>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T EVER TRY ANYTHING NEW YOU HAVE TO KEEP PLAYING WITH GYARADOS, PIKACHU, CHARIZARD, LUCARIO, ETC
Remember when pokemon games were 40 dollars. I miss those days. The new pokemon is set to sell for 120 dollars. Looks like they actively talked to rockstar and agreed to test the waters with these insane price hikes.
>>720869415>Blaze Black 2 Reduxwhat's wrong with the original?
This is where I last came back to the series and realized that I was 100% bored of it.
>>720869882>Looks like they actively talked to rockstar and agreed to test the waters with these insane price hikes.Don't try to make it look retards weren't paying around $90 for games long ago. They're finally jumping the shark and making it clear and that's a good thing; fuck the consoomers that enabled it, they deserved to be milked out of their money
>>720861541As a kid, gen 4 killed my interest. Gen 5 just made me realize that Pokemon would never be good again. Romhacks of gen 3 are the peak of Pokemon. I'd rather play pal world than any official Pokemon game after gen 3.
>>720869356I can't play HGSS if it's not Sacred Gold or Storm Silver, the level curve is too ass. Plus there are more fights and shit to do making a 9/10 into an 11/10 game.
>>720861541Speak for yourself. BW brought me back to the series and gave me the best husbandos that haven't been bested since.
>>720869634>Outdatedincreased difficulity, QoL changes, can catch all pokemon. He even includes a classic version so you can play with the original pokemon. What more do you need?
Pokemon Black/White 1 and 2 were kino, and I'm tired of pretending they weren't >Decent Story>Over a hundred new pokemon>Incredible post gameOnly nostalafags hate it. Anyone who can look at the series without bias in their heart will OBJECTIVELY realize that Black/White 2 is the peak of the series.Black/White 2 > HeartGold Soulsilver > Legends Arceus > Emerald > Platinum > Every other pokemon game
Pokémon died in 2016
>>720861659People like you are why we will forever get KANTOOOOOO mons as the main focus
>>720863810>His entire team was made to counter N's pkm at the end of the game>Never saw his son as family but as a tool>Froze people alive >Threaten to harm Lillie >Best villain themeThis will forever be the best villain they've ever made. Everything else is tame apart from Gio and Cyrus
>>720870809hgss and that arceus slop aren't that good .
>>720870980>we will get good designs instead of shit onesoh no
>>720870809Black 2/White 2 > FRLG > emeraldAnything else isn’t worth playing
>>720871081Legends Arceus is truly dogshit, wonder what people like about throwing balls in empty fields.
>>720871186This. We need more Seaking and less Volcarona.
>>720871081Despite the level curve or elemental stones locked behind post game, it's unfair to act as those games aren't packed with tons of features and side content that make it feel more alive
>>720871427FUCK YEAH
>>720871186>good designs yeah about that..
>>720869191MY NAME’SNOTDENNIS!
>>720866232It's made by one /vp/ schizo that has an autistic hatred towards gen 5 for some reason
>>720861541For me it was Ruby.I have never seen such a downgrade in sequel quality. May porn was at least good.
>>720869356Where the fuck is Pokemon Aurora Drayano?Where the fuck is Blaze Black and Volt white 2 v2.0 DREYANO/APHEX
>>720870834I still won't forgive GameFreak for skipping Z in favor of rushing out SM. Z-A doesn't make up for that either.
I get liking BW2, but BW was fucking awful and deserved the hate it got.
>>720872596BW2 just expanded things that were already good in BW, such as the story, music, graphics, engine, etc.
>>720872029>Where the fuck is Blaze Black and Volt white 2on my 3ds
>>720861709>I love pokemon and treat them with respect>Literally throws them away after each fight because they are no use of himBW was so childish and retarded, holy shit
I actually liked Gen 5 after not liking Gen 4 and being on the fence with Gen 3. The end was badass>N:"Farewell!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z_mfCbTJ4c
>>720861541Sorry wrong pic
So is BW2 the original game but with some qol and more content or a straight up sequel?
>>720864926There was just way too much shit between the first & second gym. Then fucking NOTHING. You would get something seemingly cool like that mamoswine riding through the snow, then realize that was it. You're already at a gym.
BW felt like it was trying way too hard to resurrect Gen 1 PokeMania for a new generation in a very shallow way and that never sat right with me.
>>720872916Its a sequel that takes place 2 years later
>>720872916Sequel. And it upsets the hell out of me that gf didn't continue to do that.
>Fifteen yearsMan, I remember when pic related hit the internet and everyone was going crazy over it. Never mind all the threads on /v/ leading to /vp/'s creation.
>>720872857Delusional, X+Y were the last good entries in the franchise. Sun+Moon were the tipping point where Gamefreak realized that they could stop pretending to care and pokemongs would eat whatever shit they sharted out.
RIP to 151chan
>>720872995xy is when they pandered to nostalgia faggots like you yawnie
Obligatory.
>>720872995The only good part of XY was when A's Pokemon came back at the end and forgave him for the warI got really emotional ;_;
>>720861541>>720872857Wrong pic again
>>720873218>Serperior>Zoroark>Mienshao>Scolipede>Samurott>HydreigonTop tier waifu gen, we didn't know how good we had it
>>720861541The restricted pokedex was great, and playing blind had me reliving booting up Blue for the first time. This was perfect pokeboomer kino coming right after HGSS.I was disgusted when all my pokemon obsessed friends skipped this, yet fawned over XY.
>>720873562all cute boys btw
>>720873594Very poor taste
Samurott was a genuine disappointment.
>>720873218There are like 20 okay to nice looking pokemon here. Who approved these awful designs?
>>720873976SugimoriDoes anyone have the Luxray interview?
>>720861541the DS games were the last good pokemon games
>>720874075the only pokemon games that have stood the test of time on the ds are the spinoffs the gba games have a more solid foundation, the only real issue with them is the lack of visible day/ night cycle
>>720874218>visible day/ night cyclei literally could not care less
>>720861659>DUDE WHAT IF WE DO ANOTHER GEN 1 REMAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>BUT THIS TIME IT HAS A CAVE MAN WHO SAYS "I HAVE AN OPINION!"
>>720872916It's a straight-up sequel to Black/White, meant to be played after themIt's not an enhanced/sidegrade version of the same game like Blue/Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, or Ultra Sun/Moon are
>>720874420neither do i really, but it's the biggest thing people bitch about for gen 3
>>720873976They were supposed to look foreign, because BW takes place in the strange and exotic pokeAmericas. They are similar too, but nothing like our normal everyday Japanese pokemon.I know most people don't like them, but they did objectively succeed at the design goal.If you play BW they don't look so strange in context because you don't see any oldmons.I actually like most of them. I only really HATE the genies, and the monkeys could have been better.
>>720874559>BW takes place in the strange and exotic pokeAmericasIt takes place in "NYC" and "North Jersey" and they have the first ever literal trash PokemonI am so insulted.
>>720874656
>>720873218I disliked most of these when I first played B/W, but after so many years I actually like a lot of them now.
>>720874559What do you think of the beta monkeys?>>720874656Grimer, Weezing, Swalot were all about pollution
I haven't played a pokemon game since Silver on the GBC. I just hacked my 3ds. What's the best (3)ds pokemon game if I wanted to give one of them a try?
>>720872995the first 2 gyms were good, the rest of xy was trash just slapped together at the end
>>720874735Right but they were not ever a literal bag of trash>>720874702Its all the warehouses too I am from Bergen County which is more suburban but I work in Passaic which is really industrial and they did Jersey so fucking bad in BW.
>>720874764best 3DS is ORAS just because its an optimized XY
>>720874764BW1&2HGSSUSUM
>>720874764Platinum, HGSS if you liked GSC, BW, BW2, USUM
>>720861659I loved that, I wish every new region did that, fuck Nostalgia kiddies
>>720873785I still can't believe we got Pignite's name right, even if it was the wrong stage.
>>720861541B2w2 was the peak of the series
>>720874764bw2 or platinum
>>720874912>>720874860>>720874816>>720874805So I guess any but XY then?
>>720873218I am more okay with most of these than I remember
>>720875010Yeah. Also Emerald > ORAS
>>720875015>No Zorua line
>>720875010Pretty much, you can also skip regular SM, USUM is the exact same game but with a worse story/climax, but you can see it on youtube if care about that
>>720874559When I played B/W my team was 4 pokemon because of how awful the reat looked
>>7208750103D literally killed this series. The devs didn't know how to manage the series after they went 3D and had all sorts of problems ever since.
>>720861659This. Part of the fun of pokemon is transferring your crew from the previous games.
>>720874764Play SoulSilver for your nostalgia hit, then play White to experience the last time pokemon ever tried to have SOVL.Those years were peak pokemon.
>>720874764emerald, platinum, hgss, bw, bw2, ignore the 3ds ones they're garbage
>>720875457Fuck it. I guess I'll do this. Anything I should know getting into the DS pokemon games?
>>720875423the fun is trying out the new mons, not transferring in used goods you never touched again
>>720874881i like how gen 3 does itit starts you off with only new pokemon until you reach the second gym, then it slowly starts introducing the old ones iirc gen 3 also has the most variety for new pokemon available for any gen before the first gym
>>720875193Their illusion gimmick is cool but that's about itZorua tries to hard to be cute and Zoroark tries to hard to be edgy, I just don't like them
>>720861541It was gen 4, and it wasn't my interest with pokemon but with official mainline games. Gamefreak can't make a good game and hasn't been able in a long time.
>>720875010XY is the second best 3DS game. It's basically everything you would ever hope for in a 3D pokemon game. It also exists to remind us all that in a pokemon game, pokemon are king.It's retarded to limit our options to anything less than the 400 pokemon.
>>720875572Fair enough, also based for including Druddigon
>>720875423Huh? You can just transfer them to Gen 5 in the post game, like Gen 3->Gen 4 before it
>>720861541I'm going to use a team of Eevees in White version by trading over a bunch of eggs from Black. Should I get egg moves or just send it?
>>720875010Some pokemon benefited greatly with the transition to 3d, and a lot of others suffered. The game itself is just okay, the first 2-4 gyms are pretty good and the rest is rushed. It's also still the best dressup simulator, even with 3 generations of games ahead of it.
>>720875502Yeah, but you can solve it all by reading the in game menus. The biggest change since gen2 is probably the physical/special split. Moves are now either physical or special and that determines what stats affect them.It's a game for children. Reading comprehension and general knowledge of video games will carry you just fine.
>>720875386Not that I disagree, but do you really see them making Pokemon games 2D on the switch? Because I don't.
>>720861659>DUDE WHAT IF WE FORCE YOU TO USE THE NEW MONS FOR THE MAIN STORY INSTEAD OF YOUR FAVORITES? WHAT? YOU DONT LIKE THEM? TOO BADAnti-Dexit fags used this argument in a positive light when Sword and Shield came out. >"The game forces you to use the new Pokemon thats good instead of just using your favourites."Fuck you nigga
>>720875696He's a Johtofag projecting his hate for gen 3 onto gen 5.
>>720875780None of the G5 EMs are worth it except maybe Wish. You'll be fine in game with level up moves and TMs
>>720873218The stuff I find unoffensive or good. Most of these are inoffensive though. The garbage I cut out. I wanted to cut more of them but they didn't feel me with disgust like they did years ago so I decided to eb generous. What an absolute stinker of a generation. If they wanted to force you to use new Pokémon they could have put more effort in the designs
Anybody played Black or White in Japanese?Thinking of doing it since I've never played it before and it's the first one with Kanji.
The onyl thing Gen 5 did wrong was starting to Shiny Lock pokemon.
>>720875937Cheers my good friend. May all your quick balls succeed for the next 24 hours
>>720874892I remember Emboar got predicted too before the english name got revealed.
>>720875010YesDon't listen to XY revisionists, they're shit games with a shit dex and no content (unless you like pointless women activity simulators)
>>720876017>Electross gone>Musharna gone>Amoongus gonebro wtf
>>720876351They're ugly
>>720876304How to make pokemon nameTake the primary typing of the mon and think of a word related to itTake the animal or object that the pokemon is based on and think of a word related to itConjoin them and PRESTO.
>>720861659DUDE WHAT IF YOU LE USED ONLY PIKACHU AND CHARIZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
>>720861659>My Charizard? Don't tell me you forgot my Charizard! How am I supposed to play this game without my Charizard?!
Gamefreak should make an Ash game where we travel through all the regions lose in cutscenes even when we win. That would save pokemon.
>>720873218Why are Reshiram and Zekrom omitted?
>>720876514UOOOH LIZAAAARDONKANTOOOOOOOO
>>720862881>millenials killed what they createdget out, gen alpha.
I've always hated how you need BOTH games to catch both legendaries. Fucking sucks, basic pokemon sure thats fine entice trading but the legendaries and mythics should all be catchable on both.Just a jew scheme.
>>720876507dude what if in gen 6what if they gave you a kanto starterand a kanto laprasand a kanto snorlaxand a sinnoh lucarioall within about an hour reaching lumiose and your entire team is solved at this point because this shit will carry you through the entire game, maybe pick up a goodra as well so you have dragon coverage and then the game is a complete joke
>>720873218>not a single bad pokemon here
Gen2 had the beat additions
>>720876818go make another thread
Ever notice the direct correlation between Pokemon as a franchise going to shit and the introduction of the Fairy type?
>>720876847Fairy type exists to counter dragon typing which had gotten out of hand because of Gamefreaks retardation of making most of them 600 BST monsters. The biggest problem with Fairy typing was that they focused too much on making it an anti meta typing so it completely fucked over Dark and Bug for no reason.
>>720876747Mythicals have always been able to be gotten on either version (unless there's a later gen example I wouldn't know of), you're just not allowed in the areas unless you have the event
>>720873218I liked that 5th gen went all in on bug types. It finally got me to use bug types.
>>720871348>FRLGHeartgold / Soulsilver LITERALLY has the entire Kanto region (where Firered/Leafgreen takes place) for you to explore, on top of the starter region.
>>720876843All the starters were nice and it had the coolest pokemon scizor, tyranitar, crobat, skarmory, donphan, and forretress. Beat eevee evolution umbreon as well
>>720877121wow an hour long boss rushno one cares
>>720877008Honestly, Dragon type was never the problem, it was giving them Draco Meteor in Gen 4 that really roided them up
>>720877121if i played FRLG and thought it was a dull jrpg is there any chance I'd like HGSS? I wasn't into pokemon growing up but people do speak highly of HGSS.
>>720877008The problem obviously wasnt the dragon type itself. All fairy really did is add an actual broke type and screw over bug types
>>720861659didn't gen 3 do the same thing
>>720861541>>720861659genwunners are the blight that ruined the series>>720861709this was it for meit's not even the fairy type or convoluted, tacked in storyit just turned me away from the series permanently, swsh didn't help either
>>720861659The Unovacult didn't like this one.
>>720877235Gen 3 pokemon actually looked nice
>>720871081I'm still seething that the Sinnoh remakes were pretty much sabotaged in favor of Legends Arceus
>>720877172>wow an hour long boss rushIt's a new map to explore, anon...HGSS's post game is incredible
>>720877226No. You won't like pokemon if you were not into it growing up. It is by any fair account a mediocre to bad JRPG.The appeal of pokemon is in the character designs and fantasy of going on a nature walk and collecting pets. It's the vibe that sells it, and if you're already grown it probably won't hook you.
>>720877419...because it copy pasted platinum's battle frontier
Removed all the shit ones. Honestly a great dex once you get past the first couple gyms.
>>720877121The collector autismo in me tells me to skip HG/SS.Two reasons.1. Celibi isn't catchable in HG/SS. You can only catch it in the 3DS VC of Crystal. 2. Any Kanto pokemon caught in Kanto in HG/SS even when traded up into Pokemon Home will say they came from Johto. That irks me being a autismo fag who wants to have every pokemon caught with the actual region they came from.Call it autism sure but the fact they didn't make Celebi catchable in HG/SS is fucking lame.
>>720877172>wow an hour long boss rushThats what all postgames should have
>>720877226Honestly, as someone who played HG as my first pokemon game? No. This series really is more of the same with new coats of paint. If you didn't like it the first round, you won't the second of third. In terms of amount of content you get though, hoo LAD you get a lot with gen 2 remakes.
>>720877302I am at least content knowing Platinum will always be the definitive version of Sinnoh
>>720877496Celebi wasn't available in GSC either if you weren't in Japan. You could never complete the dex despite how many gen 2 fags complained about it gen 3.
>>720877637You are able to capture Celebi in the 3DS VC version of Crystal anon.
>>720877226>if i played FRLG and thought it was a dull jrpg is there any chance I'd like HGSS?Depends on why you found FRLG boring, because the gameplay loop in every Pokemon game is exactly the same.>Travel to new area>Catch wild pokemon>Fight Wild Pokemon and Trainers>Get the Gym Badges>Fight the Elite Four>(optional) Do the Battle Frontier which is basically a bunch of fights where you need to minmax your pokemon to winWith that being said, HGSS does have some features that make it stand out>Two Regions instead of one>Fan favorite duel with Red, the protagonist of the original game>One of your Pokemon will follow your sprite while you travel around the maps, which is really cool>Physical / Magic Split. All Pokemon games from Gen 4 (including Heartgold/Soulsilver) split attacks up into two categories: Magic and Physical. Previous games (Firered included) had every element set as either physical or magical, so this is a good change, because it makes several Pokemon, a lot stronger and viable
>>720877448Is HGSS Battle Frontier even post-game? I remember it being in the midgame area
I completed the dex in Omega Ruby and that was only because people hacked in Mews and Jirachis and shit. "Gotta, Gotta, Gotta catch 'em all" doesn't really apply anymore
>>720877226Play the classic/vanilla edition drayano hacks. Renegade Platinum and Sacred Gold/Storm Silver. They up the difficulity so there's a real challenge
Maractus, my beloved shitmon…kino, just pure kino
>>720877675You weren't getting it when it actually mattered. Your seethe in 2003 was unjustified.>>720877707It's only accessible after beating the league
>>720877825Add Blaze Black and Volt White
>>720877873>literally just a worse Lilligant >Always spawns in deserts without a way to mitigate sandstorm damage >mediocre movepool at bestI love it
>>720877496*takes your shrine*nothing personel kid
>>720877934It gets an evolution in elite redux that’s breddy gud.
>>720877226Is there anything specifically you didn't like about FRLG?
>>720861541Gen 5 hate is the most irrational thing ever. People who hate on gen 5 are the same people that hated the SW prequels, Digimon Frontier and literally anything that makes bold changes to something that already exists. They are the people that like an endless supply of slop. They just want to play the same thing again. Slop after slop after slop, the same thing over and over again. That's their motto.They hated Gen 5 because it dared to be new, it dared to try something different. And, for them, there is no bigger sin. Because different means that they don't get the same slop from before. There is something inherent about some people that makes them like this. When Batman kills in Batman V Superman, they instinctively rejected it. Not because of real complaints about the quality of the movie, which would be reasonable, but because it's different.(I'm not saying Batman V Superman is a good movie necessarily) When yugioh made the most goated mechanic, Pendulum, they rejected it. Because it was not the slop. Synchro was based on Fusion, and XYZ on Synchro. But Pendulum? It was completely new. It was bold. It was unique. And, like I said before, in the mind of those people there is nothing worse than that.They will always exist and there is nothing that can be done about it. It's best to just ignore them.
>>720861541gen 5 was the last gen i got any substantial enjoyment from. gen 6 the only reason i even got as far as i did was because i was playing with friends at the time but it fell off hard and i never finished. later gens were even worse and i played less every time.
>>720878815They are the same type of people that used to say: "Digimon has better anime, Pokémon has better games."Because the constant changes in the style of the digimon games were scary, and they prefer the samey pokemon games. They are the same type of people that would cry every time the status quo changed in DC or Marvel comics.While they all have differences in tolerance for how many changes they allow before getting mad(the amount can even change based on how attached they are), they just don't like change as a concept. Like, I said, it's best to ignore them
>>720878815>SW prequelsThe Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones are pretty bad movies outside of the fights. I'll concede that Revenge of the Sith is kino, though
>>720878815>same 8 gyms like Kanto>same elite 4 like Kanto>same fire/water/grass starters like Kanto>evil team like Kanto>professor like Kanto>Victory Road like Kanto>but Zubat was replaced with Woobat so it was a daring and revolutionary pokemon game
>>720879826>Anon describes every single mainline pokemon game
>>720879540>They are the same type of people that would cry every time the status quo changed in DC or Marvel comics.Because the status quo for Marvel and DC is them simply humiliating and butchering beloved characters.Spider-Man is a literal cuckold who sold his marriage and unborn daughter to the devil. Doctor Octopus also once killed him, took over his body, and then impersonated him and ruined his life for like an entire year. Tim Drake, who was supposed to be the "normal" robin, madly in love with Stephanie Brown, was turned into a bisexual (gay) man who dumped Stephanie, became an orphan, and then was carted off into irrelevancy because no one gives a damn about him anymore.Ice Man, the playboy womanizer was turned into a homosexual man to appease fujos and sjws. He lost every ounce of masculinity and now he's a total joke of a character that no one likes, even though he was once a fan favorite.Wanda is still suffering the character assassinations lobbied at her from House of M and Avengers: Dissembled. She'll forever be stuck as the mentally ill reality warper who keeps fucking with the time line, even though that isn't even consistent with her writing from the literal decades of stories told with her prior to that.Psylocke? They put her in dyke body and changed her name to make her politically correct. Then they put some random asian in her ninja body that no on gives a damn about. As a result, the Psylocke character is pretty much dead to the fanbase. Jon Kent was once in the beloved Super Sons run where he and Damian Wade had a really good niche carved out as the next generation of Batman and Robin. That dynamic is gone. Gone because they aged up Jon by ten years so that he could get fucked in the ass. Since Jon is a man now, he can't hang out with Damian like he used to, because Damian is still a kid...The status quo in comics needs stay because modern day comic book writers cannot be trusted to make sweeping changes to characters
>>720877637i'm a gen3 fag and even i'll admit it was bullshit how hard it was to complete the dex in gen 3needed 4/5 of the gba games and three gamecube games is aids, and even then there are still some event exclusive legendaries so it doesn't even matter unless you have a gameshark
>>720879826see:>>720879540The amount of changed allowed can vary. For something like Pokemon, even a small amount of changes triggered the fanbase.
>>720879995>The status quo in comics needs stay because modern day comic book writers cannot be trusted to make sweeping changes to charactersYou say that as if, people didn't complain at the time when the writers were actually competent, way before the age of "modern comics".
>>720867654>unhinged ngo radicals proliferating america believe normal things are eviloddly poignant
>>720861541literally
>>720861659I would not have minded it if the unova lineup wasnt so damn ugly and a lot them sre just not fun to use with absurbly high evolution levels
>>720879619I understand what you are saying, but that is not my point. Even if Phantom Menace was the best movie every made, a lot of people would still hate it if it was still a lot different from the original trilogy, like it is.
>>720879910>including gen 5, which is apparently the game that was different according to its shills
>>720880580>a lot them sre just not fun to use with absurbly high evolution levelsI think it's mostly for lategame mons, which showed up at high levels already. In BW2 some of them show up much earlier like Volcarona.
>>720880243>You say that as if, people didn't complain at the time when the writers were actually competent, way before the age of "modern comics".You mean in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s? That was unironically kino. Stories felt like they were actually progressing back then. Lemme give you some examples.Barbara Gordon>Whole life a head of her as a crime fighter>She gets shot and crippled by the Joker>She'll never walk again, but that doesn't mean her heroism is over>She uses her intellect to become Oracle, one of the most cunning and intelligent support heroes in universe>She forms the Birds of Prey, using antiheroes and reformed villains to act as her physical willTHAT is character evolution. People would be fine with a character progressing like that.
>>720880773and the braviary or mandibuzz in the desert
>>720876754>pokemon game gives you recognizable popular pokemon instead of poorly designed nu-gen garbageoh no how horrible
>>720880821>THAT is character evolution. People would be fine with a character progressing like that.No, not necessarily. That is my whole point. There are rational people that can evaluate changes. They can consider:>Is this a good change or a bad changeBut there are other people that hate change by itself, no matter if it's good or bad. This can vary in amount by person, fanbase, attachment and etc...My point is to bring attention to a real thing that most people don't notice. Which is the existence of this group.Even a person that can be rational when evaluating changes on A, can be irrational when evaluating changes on B
>>720861659I genuinely unironically believe that generation 5 was the best generation out of all of them. I played every Pokemon Generation up until sword and shield. Heart gold soul silver and platinum take the top ranks too. But the graphical Evolution at the time the type of Pokemon there was and just how the world felt as a whole. Generation 5 was best. Generation 4 was second best.
>>720876754Getting the free Kanto starter did it in for me. I like them all but the one I chose went straight to the box.
>>720876754>dragon coverage>gen 6lollmao
>>720863810>tfw
>>720861709This was debunked.
>>720866220>>720866247
>>720882302This right here is why Game Freak has given up on trying.
>>720861541That was Diamond and Pearl, and then another attempt that failed at X and Y. I had my massive fair share with Gen 3 on a Sapphire launch copy, even got Jirachi from a Colosseum bonus disc, and after that the series has seriously never appealed to me the same way again because everything after that felt like I was doing the exact same shit with a different roster but with features stripped out, things not as interesting, and Pokemon designs getting more boring. And as someone that does not buy Call of Duty or sports games yearly, I just don't have the compulsion to do that shit.
>>720882437They try the hardest now doe, which is why finally after 20 years we have Blastoise shooting from his cannons. 20 years and they finally did the bare minimum. Gen 9 saved Pokemon.
>>720882302>put less and less effort into each new game>they keep selling more than the previous gen because people these days are entirely motivated by fomo
I'm gonna emulate B&W today.What am i in for?
>>720882514This was debunked. >>720882512
>>720882437> Game Freak has given up on trying.>Gen 9 is almost as good as gen 2>They never had another low tier effort money grabs like gen 3 and 5 ever againDunno, looks like they are trying well enough
>>720882512
>>720882535Worst pokemon game ever made by large margin.
>>720882302I was one of those 16,720,000 who lost interest until the SV bug eyed memes brought me back
>>720861541On the countrary it made me buy XY day one, which I kind of regretted but it was still fun and I liked the 3D artstyle so I was willing to give SM a shot. Holy fucking shit what a piece of shit gen 7 was, I hated everything about it and it kept me off pokemon entirely until SV.So actually yeah, BW(2) was at fault by giving me unrealistic expectations of gamefreak.
>>720882610What the fuckies?
>played white>had a good time using whatever mons i thought were cool>squeek the fuck by with a level 50 teamPOST GAME>all the trainers are level 65-75what the fuck
>>720882625What a weird opinion, mangenuinely can't comprehend how can you hate gen7, when it fixed so many problems that started in gen 4(made battles too easy) and 5(linear, no exploration, easy, time wasting dialogues, etc)Only really disappointing part was online systems downgrade compared to XY, but it still wasn't that much of big deal. Fuck, even focus on the story was done way better than in either storyfocused pokemon game before(bw and bw2)
>>720882535an annoying experience unless you get drilburr asapthen a slightly less annoying experience while you level up shitmons to the high 40's and 50's so they evolve and actually become worth using
>>720882847>gen 4(made battles too easy)Sure I'll give it to US. I played both Sun and US because I hate myself and I would only call US hard, and only because 2 of the totems busted my balls (electric and ghost because I was running a mono flying team with a bunch of them weak to fairy for some goddamned reason)Are you implying gens 1 to 3 were hard? The only challenge I remember from 3 was that one May/Brendan battle. Pokemon is just kind of piss easy in general, I don't play these games for a challenge.>5(linear, no exploration,Ah yes the game where every road is blocked by having to do some story shit or have Lillie and Hau stand on every street just waiting to tell you where to go or drag you into a 5 minute cutscene (each) is so full of exploration. You can't even explore the seas between islands. I think the only part where it feels like they stop trying to handhold you is on like the last island? With the ground loli leader. The random single snowy area before the elite 4 pissed me off too, it's like they finished the game and realized they forgot the snow area so they just slapped one on at the end.>time wasting dialoguesLillie is the epitome of this shit, fuck your nigger bagmon just zip your bag retard I don't give a FUCK holy shit it's like the 3 XY retards combined into 1 character on steroidsAlso I remember starting the game and spending like an hour just walking around talking to people before I even get my first pokemon, like are you for fucking real?>focus on the story was done way better than in either storyfocused pokemon game before(bw and bw2)lol, lmao in factI'll give it to you that SM's Lusamine plot was alright, and USUM went>hmmmmmm you know what, I think this is too edgy for our 2 year old yokai watch audience, let's remove the only good part of these games for the third version for absolutely no reason
>>720881085>play nugen garbage>pokemons are nugen garbageWOWZERS!
>>720883764>Are you implying gens 1 to 3 were hard?I'm stating outright that before gen4 you couldn't use water pokemon against grass in gym, and expect to not being btfo, outside of massively outleveling it(and sometimes even then). gen7 brought it back>Ah yes the game where every road is blocked by having to do some story shit or have Lillie and Hau stand on every street just waiting to tell you where to go or drag you into a 5 minute cutscene (each) is so full of exploration.Oh, internet ate your brainsEach island had location where story didn't took you, with pokemon that you could caught only where, like caves and shit.>lol, lmao in factSo you just bwkid who can't be objective about things, got it
>>720884140>before gen4 you couldn't use water pokemon against grass in gym, and expect to not being btfoWhat gyms are you refering to specifically? In almost every game you get something to counter every gym other than like Brock and uh Falkner maybe? Why would you use something that's weak to the gym's typing?>Each island had location where story didn't took youSo like every other game in the series but with less handholding?>you just bwkid who can't be objective about things, got itWhat's there to be objective about when it comes to story and characters? I fucking hate Lillie if you couldn't tell, and as much as I like the stuff about her mom it doesn't change the fact that the story is like 70% about her and her niggermon, and they removed all the good parts in USUM. I liked the rival duo in BW, thought the whole Plasma plot in BW was cool especially at the end where they hijacked your league challenge, and thought Gaycheese, Colress and Hugh were very entertaining in BW2, so naturally I would prefer gen 5's execution of the plot.Also unfortunately for you I started with Blue on the GBC. Buying HGSS/BW/XY/SM with my own money probably made me more critical of them if anything.
