anything i want, just probably not for very long before i get bored and move on
>Steam Library = 782 games
and that just includes paid for games

>>720890192
do you take medication?

>>720890483
I used to but not anymore, when I was on it though, I found it MUCH easier to focus on one game at a time.

idk changes every couple hours

>>720890117
We play a lot of games, for examp

Space Station 14
it also helps me stay sober

>>720891457
This is thread about ADHD, not being trans

>>720891457
>14
Hope you know you are playing a worse version of ss13

>>720890117
All of them

minecwaft so i can install 4000000 mods and then immediately uninstall them without trying them out :)

Advanced dungeons and hot dragons? Probably bg3

>>720890117
Minecraft ARG horror mods

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Unhealty ammounts of compslop and coop games.
I also achievement hunt games, it's as miserable as it sounds

>>720890117
roblox and they watch jeet shit on youtube

>>720891330
Cool story ESL

ADHD isn't real.

>>720895642
more like machine-translated chatgpt

>>720891330
Actually neck yourself fag

>>720890117
I like impressions games city builders while listening to lectures on ancient history that universities put up in youtube.

>>720895843
You're not real

>>720890541
same, now I abuse it by taking it when I feel like it rather than every day.

>>720891330
How do you know they're bein molested?

>>720895843
adhd is real, it just so happened to start existing right around the time jews invented the drugs that fix it.
huge cohencidence.

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>>720896812
same

>mfw i take upwards of 90mg of adderall a day when i'm being careless
my tolerance is so fucking high. it's gonna be hard as a mother fucker to get this fixed

>>720890117
i dont anymore, unless its with friends

>>720898741
>meds that fix it
wtf jews give me legal meth? i love jews now

>>720890117
bump

I have a diagnosis but to get prescribed that shit in my country you have to jump through so many hoops

>>720890117
RTS mostly

>>720890117
reminder that "psychologists" looked at people who were bored and disinterested by boring and uninteresting things, and labeled that a mental disorder

>>720890117
Podcast and wiki games, in general games that have a "meta." They put on a podcast or stream, start the game and just go. Usually mechanics and exploration focused. Mostly Bethesda/Ubisoft-style open world games as opposed to anything with a story because they just can not pay attention to the narrative and are not interested in characters or dialogue.

>>720890117
About a dozen different games

>>720896302
Same, I've been watching this guy recently. His stuff is mostly subbed okay but they also default to godawful AI dub made by youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/@eugeniomonesma-documentales/videos

>>720890117
ADHD is not real

I feel bad for you if you personally were effected by a big pharma scam

>>720906305
That’s underselling it, they then sold them amphetamines

>>720890117
i have some friend who are diagnosed with adhd
the games they play most frequently are:
bloonstd6
balatro
pokemon (go or the phone tcg)
there are a couple others but they're not as consistent or as frequent as those 3

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>Fake disease so you can get legal methods

>>720906719
My experience with them convinced me that they're unjustly restricted. I think the world would genuinely be a better place if everyone was given extended release concerta

>>720891330
>Drugs are bad
You sound like you're on them right now.

>>720907340
It was.
Boomers built the world on Nicotine

I am amazed that you all have time for games. Now that there's work. I can barely get anything done in a single day. Backlog and dread building up at work and home. I want off this ride to get back to my vidya backlog instead.

>>720907340
Chronic stimulant used invariably leads to psychosis. You'd be burning people in their 20's and 30's and croaking them in their 50's and 60's. after spending their 40's as emotional wrecks. Caffeine is good enough for just about everybody in a grind.

>>720890192
Are you me?
those non-linear games like Kenshi or Factorio end up consuming me for 9 hours straight but I can’t focus on anything more story oriented, been trying to finish the Silver Case for like 4 days now (why the fuck is the select noise 80dB higher than the rest of sound effects) , shocked I managed to finish BG1-3 or any CRPG really but I always end up brute forcing my way through situations instead of clever solutions so perhaps I’m playing them wrong

>>720908185
Having a job that's tracked by milestones/goals so I can just finish stuff fast and play the rest of the day in office.

I have bad ADHD and don't take any meds for it.

I'd assume people like me can play literally any game they want, it just has to suck them in or else it won't last long. I've built the habit to not even start a game anymore because if i feel like i wont put at least 20 hours into it, it would be a waste of my time. I could be doing 100 other things besides playing it (which i never do because all i do is spend time thinking about how i can do things) and always ends back to doom scrolling for 6 hours straight and forgetting to drink water and dehydrating myself.

the last few games that i personally played that hooked me are poe2, pokemon violet (i like mindlessly shiny hunting while watching videos), and balatro on my phone.

>>720908306
>You'd be burning people in their 20's and 30's
well shit I didn't realize I'm psychotic.

>>720907340
My experience with any fuckhead that "needs" their stimmies to function is that they are mentally defective.

>>720908727
>is that they are mentally defective.
Well...yeah...

>>720908727
Seeing as that's who they're prescribed to, I can believe it

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>>720890117
How do I get an ADHD prescription as a suicidality depressed 29 y/o? I feel like kids only get prescribed it anymore. I'm convinced I need it to get myself to do literally anything with my life. Everything seems pointless and a waste of time compared to playing video games.

>>720890117
My best friend has ADHD and he keeps getting fired from jobs because his employers won't be patient with him. I also think his parents knew he had it, but never got him treated. Wat do?

>>720910251
Have you actually tried going to a psychiatrist and telling them you need help with it or have you just assumed they won't prescribe you?

>>720910819
The latter. I've got no interest in SSRIs and I feel like that's what I'm going to get pushed instead.

>Work in IT
>Have co-worker that will just pace around the office for about ten minutes when we have downtime
>Literally hangs near people's cubicles if they're off that day
>He'll also pace around the room when talking to users on the phone
>Found out later that his dad (who's a manager for one of our teams) told one of our seniors to make sure he "stays in his seat"
Does he have ADHD?

>>720911042
>take SSRIs
>either take them for a month or just throw them out
>say they're not helping

>>720890117
Look at /v/ and find out

>>720890117
Anything but open world games, they can't handle any period of time where they aren't being stimmied.

>>720911042
It's possible they will but if you focus on your struggles with ADHD and make it clear that's where your issues stem and that it's been a lifelong problem then you'll probably be fine. It's not uncommon for people with ADHD to have depression or anxiety that only gets resolved when the ADHD is treated. If you have an ADHD diagnosis already too then I doubt it'll be an issue. You can also just always go see someone else.

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>>720911137
If he
>finishes other people sentences
>eats while walking/moving/standing
>often looks like he spaces out during convos
>talks fast
then chances are that in unqualified to diagnose him

>>720891457
>>720891926
ss14fags are well aware they're playing shittier ss13 but at least the 14devs did the unimaginably based and banned ERP off their hub entirely, while lummox allows ss13 to be consumed from the core because he's a jew

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>>720890117
>DRG
>Helldivers 2
>TF2
Those are the recent ones. But I get a focus buff sometimes on random boring games cuz Im AuDHD

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>>720896812
>>720901292
I have had it since I was a kid and fucking sucked in school because of it. Now I have a high tier job and I tried it to see if it'd help, fuck. Now I am afraid of abusing this shit, I already smoke more weed than half of Jamaica combined

>>720911725
it's fucking magic man and supposedly that's the normal

>>720901292
Just inch downwards 90mg isnt that bad. Some speed junkies can do literal grams a day

>>720896812
I took the meds for four years and got my career to a position where I don't need to take them every day anymore.
Now I only take them when deadlines approach or when I'm going to a music festival or rave.

>>720908451
It's only time

>>720910542
Recommend he gets treated. If he agrees he needs to be and just doesn't make the call then it can be genuinely helpful to get on his case a bit about it and basically let him use you as motivation and someone to hold him accountable.

ADHD
>+25% exp gain
>-25% max skill Lvl
>Dex +5
>inventory organization disabled

>>720911725
>>720896812
>>720901292
What the fuck does it do? How do you feel? I also looked at Modafinil because I struggle to even start a game.

>>720890117
I play Soulslikes and shooters mainly.

>>720911432
Alright fair enough. I'm just apprehensive because I've seen like 7 or 8 therapists over the course of my life and only one of them ever seemed to have any effect on me. I'm aware a psych isn't the same thing, but I'm still apprehensive nonetheless.

>>720912460
Adderall? If you're ADHD it will chill you out and help you focus. ADHD can be complex but it can do a lot of things, from help their mood (intrusive/never ending thoughts are a pain in the ass) or even help memory.
What is funny is that if you take it and you aren't ADHD, it works like any other speed, you get wired and crash later. Think Meth

Does ADHD messes with your ability to play certain games properly? Like inability to keep track of UI elements, gauges or meters, so you forget you use ability and items when necessary. Or getting distracted when too much is going on, on screen.

>>720890117
How do I get diagnosis+meds as an adult? I tried a few years ago but the specialist said I was bordeline and just gave me some meds to help me sleep which I didn't really need.

Also getting a pescription for cheap meth sounds rad

>>720911848
>supposedly that's the normal
>Take meds for the first time
>Leaving the grocery store and habitually pat myself down like three times to make sure I didn't leave anything
>Feel like a retard and it takes me a second to even realize why I'm doing it because for once I clearly remember everything I did and where my things are
>So ingrained in me though that I can't stop despite that
>Dad starts telling me about his workday
>It's effortless to pay attention instead of requiring all my focus just to keep track of what he's saying much less respond
>Same goes for when I'm playing a game with friends and can casually keep up with a conversation while playing
>Don't have to rehearse a story over and over to try and make sure I don't lose my train of thought while speaking
>Even when I do lose my train of thought it's easy to just calmly pause and find it again in a few moments
>The voice in my head telling me to get ready for bed, make something decent to eat, and clean up is suddenly so loud and easy to listen to
>Even feels satisfying when I do listen to it
>Meds stop working that well after like two weeks
The idea that there are people who just wake up and do that shit normally is absolutely insane to me. I almost prefer the idea that it's purely a skill issue.

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>>720890117
>diagnosed with autism and adhd
The game was rigged from the start. I mostly play MOBAs like Dota 2 or 4x strategy games.

>>720914123
this but not actually diagnosed so I get no help LOL

>>720890117
I'm the fun type of ADHD; inattentive
I can just chill in a games menu and shitpost all day

most ppl who say "i have adhd" are probably pedophiles.
also adhd-havers reproduce by grooming kids into thinking they have adhd too.
kill your local adhd.

Does Adderall exacerbate OCD? I'm diagnosed with that in addition to ADHD, and my previous attempts at taking stimulants (Concerta and Vyvanse) made my OCD symptoms worse.

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>>720913954
>I almost prefer the idea that it's purely a skill issue.
because it is. the meds are literally a scam. you'll build tolerance very fast and after a while the meds will no longer work (unless you start abusing them) and once you're off them you'll feel even worse than you did before starting them. what's the point of taking something that 1. you'll build tolerance for 2. will leave you feeling worse than before after a while?
>inb4 b-but muh 1-2 month meds vacation!
literally doesn't matter. "studies" say psychoeducation is as effective as meds btw.
I got diagnosed (allegedly ticked all the boxes and then some) but never started meds because of all the potential side effects and long term risks (which are very poorly researched and studied, mind you, so there's literally no sufficient data that indicates whether or not you'll die of a heart attack at the age of 50). just limit your phone use, don't start the day by unlocking your phone on hopping on Instagram/TikTok/whatever, just get out of bed and do something that requires focus, like I don't know, read 10 pages of a book and then workout, or something. Listening to music also counts as brainrot btw. the same tier as insta/tiktok.

>>720917937
>which are very poorly researched and studied
Maybe you should give the pills a shot, you appear to have a learning disability

>>720918148
show me more than 5 papers that properly and deeply study potential cardiovascular risks of longterm methylphenidate use. and not just some half-assed bullshit conducted over a 3-5 year period, but a 20-30 year long research which concluded that methylphenidate doesn't affect your heart in any way (you can't and you won't, because there isn't one, besides some half-assed ones and sponsored ones lol)

>go to doctor
>say I have brain problems
>get sent to a generic woman therapist who tries to push SSRIs on me
>refuse
>uhhhh we can't help you go somewhere else lol
>don't do anything because too adhd to handle something as horrifically boring and tedious as finding another therapist outside the network
fuck doctors

>>720917937
>Listening to music also counts as brainrot btw.
I want more studies on this, personally. It's been defended as an art form for centuries, but people have been calling television bad for your health for decades now. With how easy music is to access at literally all times, I wouldn't be surprised if the constant stimulus has a negative effect.

>>720917937
I never felt worse after stopping meds. It was honestly easy to forget to take them or never getting around to another appointment. Caffeine even is much worse in my experience where I not only never forget but withdrawal is a bitch. Frankly, I'd be more than content dying at 50 if the meds worked reliably for me. I'm certain I'd live a much better life in that timeframe.
>just limit your phone use, don't start the day by unlocking your phone on hopping on Instagram/TikTok/whatever, just get out of bed and do something that requires focus, like I don't know, read 10 pages of a book and then workout, or something
I find it hard to believe someone with genuine severe ADHD would give such worthless advice.

>>720918571
>I wouldn't be surprised if the constant stimulus has a negative effect.
Of course it does. Music is one of the most powerful media forms. people can get overstimulated by a sound of a bird vocalization outside if the bird keeps at it for too long, your neighbour using a powerdrill can literally drive you nuts, so just because music gives you a "pleasant" feeling doesn't mean it's good for a prolonged period of time (and I say it as someone who works with audio proffesionally, game audio ironically enough)

how do I know if I actually have adhd or if I'm just a worthless piece of shit like my dad who hit me as a child and who i still live with in my 30s says i am

>>720912895
Not really. It does make getting into games with slow starts very difficult. I despise slow-paced JRPGs.

>>720918781
>I find it hard to believe someone with genuine severe ADHD would give such worthless advice.
what's worthless about it? everyone around wants you to belive that a made up (or overdiagnosed) disease requires some sort of fucking pills that'll literally fuck you up long term (if you're american I'm not surprised you vouch so hard for meds, you guys get pills prescribed for literally every single fucking thing in the existance, if you have a slight knee pain you'll get a fucking oxycodone prescription, lmao) while there are simpler and literally braindead solutions, like limiting your screen time, practicing mindfulness and trying to become more organized for once. ADHD meds are literally an excuse capitalists made to make you a more productive Excel spreadsheet input robot so John Sullivan and Rob Van Dijk could make more money. ADHD is literally a diseases of affluence, everyone can have it, since we're fucking screen zombies and some just manage their screentime better than others and have been thought discipline as a child (I wasn't)

As someone with ADHD who just took his daily dose.

Destiny Rising
Dodonpachi DaiOuJou
SSX Tricky
Mafia The Old Country
Fast Fusion

All recent plays.

>>720919543
I have ADHD and deal with it without drugs. "Don't do X" is worthless advice. In order to function you have to come up with various tricks and rituals like the anon who always pats himself. It's a lifelong struggle and is not easy at all.

>>720919016
If you have it it's pretty clear, but also does it really matter? It sounds like you're struggling with stuff and, not to sound like a redditor, but that's valid

>>720919845
I'm not saying it's easy. Of course everyone deals with it their own way and "limit your screentime" is just one of the things you can do that will 100% help, but won't cure you. Because there is no cure. The meds aren't a cure. So there's no point in taking them, since you can find your own way to function anyways, without becoming a fucking methhead, just because it's "clinically tested" doesn't mean it's any less of a drug. Don't ruin your health trying to fix one thing that's "broken" (which is a funny word in the context of ADHD, because I don't think there's anything wrong with people with ADHD, it's just the current state of society that has a problem with ADHD people, because we're all about "maximizing" our results in every single fucking thing, even in video games, with achievements and quests and performance etc. not to mention work, monetizing every facet of your life and so on. THIS what truely is wrong, not you)

Gonna be real with you guys
I don't care if the meds turn me into a goddamn zombie, ghoul or lifeless husk
I just want to feel "normal" and stop overthinking and going in circles for every, miniscule, thing.
I have been diagnosed and european diagnosis is more strict than US, but I still have to get it certified and seek out therapy.
I did try CBT (not the ball kind) and it definetly worked but I need something more long lasting or atleast a little help to always keep to the schedule.

>>720920095
how is it clear?

>>720890117
roblox but unironically

>>720919543
>what's worthless about it?
The fact that it doesn't work. If such simple, obvious advice really works for you then you don't actually have ADHD and you just needed to put the bare minimum of effort in to get your shit together. It's silly to act like nobody else thought of or sincerely tried such basic things before going to a doctor or that what works for you must work for everybody else and they're just too inept to try. I'm pretty confident from your posts that there's no real point to us talking because it's doubtful either of us will convince each other of anything.

>>720890117
factorio

>>720919543
ADHD and screen/stimulation addiction are different things, but there is a lot of overlap in presentation
Like >>720919845 said, actually having ADHD really fucks you up and doesn't just have a "do better" solution
You do still need to work on those things you mentioned though, having ADHD isn't an excuse to act like you have absolutely no power over your life. It is definitely easier to manage if you practice building good habits
I agree that drugs aren't the answer

>>720920340
>how is it clear?
Because you're terrible at balancing all aspects of your life no matter how hard you try

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its less so what i play (at least in a direct sense) and more so how i play certain games. when i play a game with a more concrete goal (single player stuff with a campaign/story, or achievement hunting) i can end up fixating on it to an extreme degree and neglecting pretty much everything else in my life. ive been more conscious of it lately (i decided to do radiant hall of gods before silksong came out and ended up just nolifing the game for a week or so) and tried to mostly stick to games that i can just dip into for a few rounds, or moderate how much i play games like that when i do

>>720920462
you only replied to the very first sentence in my post, but okay. I'm not trying to convince you, since I can tell you've already been convinced by the world around you that you're "broken" and the only way to fix yourself is by using methylphenidate (which I disagree is the only way, since there are multiple other ways that can work and are as effective as meds).
I wrote it in my previous post, but I'll say it once more: I'm not saying those simple things will "cure" you. It's just a small part of a bigger picture. ADHD doesn't even show up on MR scans (real mental disorders do show up on an MRI, like schizophrenia, depression etc.), so there's no physical way of telling if you're okay or not. The criteria on the DIVA-5 test are bullshit and literally most of your friends would qualify. I just hope you'll see that meds are not the answer and the things that are "wrong" in you, are not really wrong, they're just wrong in the eyes of ever-performance-optimizing capitalist society.

>>720920340
- Do you have a million thoughts racing through your head at all times?
- Do you have trouble falling asleep because of it?
- Are you constantly paranoid about forgetting your wallet/appointments?
- Do you get regular periods of boredom -> hyper-obsession?
- Do you go insane from doing the same repetitive tasks every day?
- Do you ever feel like school/work/society structure is clearly wrong and designed by clowns?

>>720921179
>you only replied to the very first sentence in my post
That's a sure sign of ADHD kek

>>720920549
Of course if fucks you up. There are days I can barely function and get anything done at all. I can't even play video games anymore because of it. I have a hard time finishing anything. Starting things feels so monumental it's nearly insurmountable. But I keep pushing on, everyone carries their cross or something, everyone struggles with something. I don't think there are 100% mentally healthy people out there, if you're not struggling with attention deficit, you're struggling with some other shit, like lack of emotions, constant need to jerk off, being a fucking alcoholic, having attachment issues etc. everyone fights their fight. What I mean is simply - life is not easy in general. It's a fucking struggle with, or without ADHD. Everyone struggles. Getting hooked on some piece of shit meds that'll ruin you is not the way and I was just trying to signal it to everyone that's considering them. And since a lot of people act like they absolutely have not control over their lives and "it's all ADHD" or "it's all X" I feel like it needs to be a more shared sentiment (kinda dealing with stuff the way it is, instead of taking shortcuts).

>>720912401
Literally how it is.

Playing guitar for almost 2 decades and im trash. The same skill level i was 2 years after i started.

>>720921179
>he things that are "wrong" in you, are not really wrong, they're just wrong in the eyes of ever-performance-optimizing capitalist society.
NTA, but no, there is definitely something wrong with me that heavily impedes my daily functioning, and I'm finally starting to understand it's not just a matter of "doing better" and being fixed. The best I can do is manage it, but there's a lot of room for improvement within that boundary, and that's worthwhile and achievable goal. I don't want to do it with drugs. But there is a part of my brain that is just fundamentally broken and I don't think I can fix it.

>>720921710
I see what you're saying now anon, and I agree.

>nephews arent even 10 and are already juiced up on amphetamines because the school complains they're slightly hyper
they're fucked aren't they?

The bottom line is, try adhd meds but only if you're an adult

>>720921179
>you only replied to the very first sentence in my post, but okay
You've ignored shit I've said in all my posts to preach at me. You're doing it right now. The rest of my post also did answer your rambling.
>the things that are "wrong" in you, are not really wrong, they're just wrong in the eyes of ever-performance-optimizing capitalist society.
Like right here it's obvious you didn't even read, or you're ignoring, the issues I posted having that medication helped with or you wouldn't be using this argument on me. You're not trying to have an actual conversation. I reiterate, there's no point in us talking because it's just you talking to yourself. See you in some other thread, anon.

>>720921978
>But there is a part of my brain that is just fundamentally broken and I don't think I can fix it.
I feel the same way about myself and the truth is everyone has something like this in them. Adult life in general is just an art of cope. The longer you live the more fucked up or shitty things happen to you (cool and beautiful things happen as well) that leave their mark. Your loved ones leave, die, the things you care about end up not working out, life unveils itself and it turns out it's not like it was always meant to be in your head. So you start coping. Some people are true cope masters, they fucking repress things (which isn't good, so when they no longer can repress it they go off the fucking rails, go off on their relatives, start drinking etc), they do all sorts of crazy shit (like compulsively spend money, which is one of capitalism's more fucked up mechanisms in general and plays very well into the whole ADHD thing too), but in general it's an art of "it is what it is" and letting go. I know it sounds braindead and kinda like my "don't do X" advice, but it's literally that. I too am fucked, there's something fundamentally off in certain terms, but I keep pushing on, I don't give up, each day I just try to do stuff better (and fail almost everyday, you will fail and you will feel like shit) but that's life. Life is hard. It's even harder when you're not a normie. You seem like an intelligent person and intelligent people have it harder than anyone else. Ignorance truly IS bliss. I don't think you're broken. I think there are thousands of factors around us that decide whether we're "broken" or not. If you changed your environment, the people around you etc. You'd probably see that more clearly. Just don't be so harsh on yourself, because it's literally not worth it in a long run. Keep trying to improve and even if you fail, as long as you keep on trying, you're winning life more than any of those fucking "beautiful" successful people around you.

>>720917887
Take 4mg of guanfacine and nac with any stimulant, while 300-450mg of fluvoxamine at night
t. ocdadhd haver

>>720922839
okay, but what do you want me to respond to? The fact that you've been taking meds for two weeks and use it as a base for your argument of "getting off of meds easily" and not feeling worse afterwards? I was talking about people who have been taking those meds for years. 5-6 years and now they can barely function. Nothing will fuck you up after 6 months of taking, not to mention 2 weeks. And if dying at 50 is worth the 30 years you'd have on meds (which you wouldn't have, because by the time you're 50 the tolerance you've built over the years would be so high you'd literally have to be on an hero doses of methylphenidate) then I can't say much more desu. Thanks for the convo anyways.

>>720895843
The funny thing is that most people have no idea what ADHD actually is. You have tons of people arguing against it because the only thing they know is one superficial trait though the actual description of the condition despite the actually description of the condition being like 7 traits long. Hell, they often don't even know what executive functions even are.

>>720901292
I doubled up on my 10mg one day on accident and thought I was going to fucking die.

Best cum of my life though.

>psychiatry
Jewish racket

>>720922157
adhd is overdiagnosed in young people and underdiagnosed in adults

>>720922885
>I feel the same way about myself and the truth is everyone has something like this in them.
I agree that everyone has their own mental problems, and I don't want to sound like "BUT MY PROBLEMS ARE SPECIAL", but I don't personally find it helpful to file it under the "welp, everyone is messed up in their own way" category. It took me long enough to accept that I have a particular condition that fucks with my life in a major way, and in greater totality than the other mental issues I have, and that it isn't something I can conquer just by trying harder. It took me a long time to learn that I'm not just lazy and stupid, but that there's something going on beneath the hood that's not altogether within my control.
I appreciate your kind words. I'm certainly going to keep on trying, it's just that having more insight into it helps my direct my efforts in more useful and realistic ways.
I wish you the best as well. And I agree with what you're saying about not turning to drugs and not using it as an excuse to give up instead of working on ways to improve. I also agree the greedy and retarded medical system is nowhere near as helpful, or as benevolent, as people think it is.

>>720916210
Je ne suis pas Charlie

>>720919501
>not getting stuck at character creation

>>720890117
I play 2 matches of tf2 then i get bored and browse on 4channel

>>720908306
This is very true. Keep on doing adderal and you’ll eventually have a psychotic break and need to stop.

>>720917937
>>720919543
>ADHD is literally a diseases of affluence, everyone can have it, since we're fucking screen zombies and some just manage their screentime better than others and have been thought discipline as a child
ADHD and screen addiction are two entirely different things that only seem similar if your idea of what ADHD is was formed from internet memes.
>like limiting your screen time, practicing mindfulness and trying to become more organized for once
ADHD prevents you from doing that. Their brains actively fight against organization. An unmediated person with ADHD could sit down to plan out their day and could instead end up on Github reading through code so that they can understand how someone made their day planner app. Also, ADHD stims don't actually fix ADHD. They simply put you in a place where you can then fix your habits. CBT is meant to be used along with meds, not instead of them.
Also:
>because it is. the meds are literally a scam. you'll build tolerance very fast and after a while the meds will no longer work (unless you start abusing them) and once you're off them you'll feel even worse than you did before starting them. what's the point of taking something that 1. you'll build tolerance for
—is raw horseshit. ADHD stimulants are essentially the most successful class of psychiatric meds ever made. It's extremely difficult to build a tolerance to them (psychs will typically dismiss most claims of tolerance on the spot since many people have a tendency to chase the high you first experience on the meds as opposed to how genuinely beneficial it is, they have prodigiously high success rate for treatment, they have relatively mild side effects, and you can usually stop them immediately without any withdrawal symptoms. It's another consequence of bad press, as people attribute qualities that only manifest if you abuse the meds and take far more than a proper dosage as inherent qualities of them.

>>720921371
uh
yes to all of those
is that good or bad

>>720926203
>ADHD prevents you from doing that. Their brains actively fight against organization. An unmediated person with ADHD could sit down to plan out their day and could instead end up on Github reading through code so that they can understand how someone made their day planner app.
I often find that I CAN organize if I start the day right and carefully follow all the required steps without any deviation, but most of the time it's like I forget that I should be doing it in the first place, and even at best can only manage about half the steps, while everything else gets abandoned.
Lists help but then I end up making a ton of lists and forgetting about them. It's like a complete and total inability to ever be organized, even when I actively try.
But the fact that I CAN, TECHNICALLY do it keeps making me think I'll get it right if I just keep trying... and it's frustrating when it doesn't work.

>>720901292
How do you people even enjoy being on adderall? I had to take it because I was a sperg in elementary school, but besides making me focus, it made me feel like shit and I didn't want to eat.

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>>720926203
Literally this x100.
The meds are so addictive I forget to take them every other day.
I have stopped taking them for a month just to see what it's like. Zero withdrawal, I just go back to struggling a lot with organization and getting shit done.
ADHD isn't play games all day disease, it's the stare at the screen trying to gather the resolve to even start playing disease.
I took vyvanse for years straight, started at 30 and ended at 50mg dose, never built a tolerance, no negative side effects except my life got in order and I advanced my career and fixed all my problems in my life with little effort.
I started taking them at age 27, I had to rawdog life for 27 years and only at that age when everything was falling apart with no support network and everyone telling me I "just needed to try harder".
Exercise didn't work, all my sleeping hygiene habits didn't work. I've been reading books daily since I was 12 before sleeping. I exercise every day. I eat well,
I was doing everything right and it wasn't working.
Until I started taking the "evil pills" that literally made my disease go away.
Fuck my parents and society for trying to get me to live without a literal life saving medication because of propaganda. I was headed for suicide and now I have a stable career and a future worth living for.

>>720927049
Because they don't feel like shit or it's still enough of a positive. Not everyone has the same experience. That's also why there's different dosages and medications.

>>720927060
>it's the stare at the screen trying to gather the resolve to even start playing disease
fuck

>>720927060
>ADHD isn't play games all day disease, it's the stare at the screen trying to gather the resolve to even start playing disease.
I am years deep in a waiting list to try meds for this shit, and for me it's
>I can't start doing anything now, I need to have dinner ready in two hours which means I need to start doing stuff for it in one hour, there's no time to commit to anything
>so I just open up a solitaire card game and bang out a round in 2 minutes
gotta have that something to do so I don't sit there doing nothing, but I can't do anything "weighty" even though an hour is plenty of time to have a good long session in something worthwhile. I just fucking can't. Frustrating.

>>720908306
I would rather die at 60 but live a good life than live to 90 or more without medication, and I'm 100% serious about it.
I was going to kill myself in a couple years if things kept going the way they were before I got on stimulants.
If I had to sign a paper right now that I would literally die at 00:00 the day I turn 50 but I never had to live with ADHD ever again I'd sign it with no hesitation.

>>720927292
Going somewhere in six hours? Better not start anything, you either won't be able to focus on it or you'll get so absorbed you'll miss your appointment

>>720927423
and I should add, I am not tiktok brain addled.
I literally do not have a smartphone. I chose not to because I know it'll make me worse. I've modded youtube to not show me shorts. I avoid engaging with algorithm-driven content whereever possible, I try to only consume media I want to.
Does not having a smartphone suck when I need to get somewhere and don't have googlymaps to guide me? Yes, absolutely, but I do not want to have to live with the mental equivalent of a nice easy vape hovering over my lips 24/7 just so I can google "where is suchandsuch" when I need to.

sucks balls, I hate what the internet has become. Smartphones were meant to be useful for people like me, not poison.

>>720912610
It's a long road but take faith in knowing that in almost all cases it's worth it. I was lucky enough to get diagnosed as a kid but I stopped taking meds when I entered high school until recently so I know the struggle ADHD can bring in your adult life. (I'm only a year older than you too.) I was blessed enough to have that earlier diagnosis and to remember the name of my medication to get back on it fairly easily so I didn't have to wait too long (I did let myself sit on a waiting list for almost a full year before finally telling my doctor to just let me start taking medication over getting a reassessment.)

Getting that assessment is going to be the hard part, but starting on medication again this year has lead to just massive personal growth, and I would definitely feel that it was worth it. (I'm more focused, can accomplish more tasks including better gaming habits, and for the first time I've been able to commit to an actual diet and fitness plan too.) It's going to be on you to push for it, don't just sit and wait for doctors to do all the work for you if you want to get the treatment you're seeking but just try to keep in mind that if you can find the treatment that works for you it can be life-changing.

>>720927660
I do the same. I purposely buy the shittiest smartphones possible that can barely run google maps and whatsapp so I can stay in contact with my family.
My phone lags if I use Instagram, which I uninstalled, and forget about games.
It's like carrying a heroin syringe in your pocket at all times ready for you to hit. Miss me with that shit.

>>720927660
>I am not tiktok brain addled
You're staring at a screen right now. Browsing 4chan which has thread after thread after thread until you find something you like and then go to the next one. inb4 troon rage

>>720927660
I was about to say smart phones haven't been a problem for me, but then I remembered I spent 2 hours browsing 4chan from bed when I should have been sleeping last night
So yeah, you're probably better off.

>>720927858
yes, but there is a limited amount of 4chan and it's only on my computer.
If I get up and walk away, if I go to the shitter, it's not there. If I'm on a slower board, I run out of posts in threads I'm interested in.

As opposed to tiktok etc where I can be fed unlimited content that is designed to hit the dopamine receptors.

>>720923331
>The fact that you've been taking meds for two weeks
I shouldn't reply but I don't like having words put into my mouth. I never said I only took them for two weeks. I said they stopped working as well as I described after two weeks. Basic logic would tell you from the other things I've said, things that you're literally mentioning, that I've used them for longer but you really seem to prefer interpreting any post that disagrees with you in whatever way lets you disregard it and act like the other person is just a gullible idiot. I'm going to stop replying for real this time and assume if you put words in my mouth again that you're trolling me.
>Thanks for the convo anyways.
Can't say the same, we didn't really have a conversation at all. You're a true /v/irgin in that regard.

Methylphenidate fucking sucks balls btw.
Only amphetamine based medications are worth taking.
Adderall, Lisdexamphetamine, Dextroamphetamaine or Amphetamine are the only meds worth taking ever.
I'd rather do cocaine than Ritalain.

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>>720890117
I used to jump from one game to another until Titanfall 2.
Then I clocked 2000h into it before finally getting bored.
>shooter
>fast paced
>can slide and wallrun
>can combine them and speed yourself up to ungodly velocities
>can attack or be attacked from any direction
>very fast TTK
>every kill counts whether it's player kill or one of AI trooper kills increasing both score and titan gauge
>dopamine literally fucking everywhere
Also game works like a charm, it's well optimized and looks nice despite being modified source engine. And it has really good single player campaign. I can't complain about this game, it's really fucking good.

>>720928435
I abused speed for a year before going clean and then getting myself diagnosed. I got put on bupropion to avoid the speed'y meds to not play into my addiction. Can't really complain, it works.

I only became >normal after a close friend died so eh
I guess trauma can unfuck you in some ways better than meds ever could

>>720890117
nothing
>oh i have an online college class in a few hours, thats more than enough time to play something
>still hasn't played anything hours later

>But the fact that I CAN, TECHNICALLY do it keeps making me think I'll get it right if I just keep trying... and it's frustrating when it doesn't work.
That's typically how it goes, yeah. People with ADHD, especially undiagnosed ADHD, often end up distraught and immensely depressed because brute forcing is so unreliable. All it takes is one minor interruption and they can either become hyperfocused on something else, or they completely forget what they were doing or what they did recently. For example, my wife (girlfriend at the time) used to joke about my apartment having ghosts before my diagnosis for example because I would constantly lose my phone, wallet, keys, et cetera and wouldn't believe her when she said that I clearly left it there.
>>720927049
People have different reactions to different meds or even different dosages of the same meds. Focalin made me ridiculously emotional for example. Just somber music or watching the sunset was enough to make me start crying. Also, I wouldn't say that I enjoy being on Vyvanse. It honestly makes me a bit uncomfortable. I just do it because the benefits vastly outweight the negatives.

>>720890117
Probably autobattlers and roguelites

>>720928858
I was addicted to Titanfall 2 as well brother. I miss the game every day. Forever chasing that high.
Good for you on the Bupropion, I haven't tried it myself as Lisdexamphetamine works wonders for me.
I used to abuse caffeine and other easy to acquire stimulants that were not street drugs, I remember my first time trying cocaine and feeling almost nothing, same for speed unless I did a big ass line and it was not heavily cut down.

>>720929136
Try instead of taking the pill, pour the contents of the pill into a large bottle of water and take sips to manage the dosage. Works much better when I want to do a half dose.

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>>720890117
I got ADD, it's not quite ADHD but still. I find that I usually prefer more low intensive games, games that have intense moments, but those moments are more dispersed through the game in between moments of calm/downtime. Best examples at the moment are like souls games or stalker freeplay.
There are intensive games that I like as well, but I usually can't play them for more than an hour before my concentration completely falters, games like burnout or f-zero or something.