LTTP is my favorite Zelda game and I don’t understand why people think it’s such a bad opinion to have?
its an absolutely based opinion
Everyone knows it's the best 2d Zelda maybe the best overall. Only those retards who got filtered by it hate it.
>>720918113I feel like we’re in the vast minority tho
>>720917930What's with Zeldafags constant victimhood threads?
>>720918113It may actually be one of the few correct opinions on /v/.
>>720917930not my 2d favorite, but it's objectively speaking the best 2d Zelda, nothing wrong with it. People just hate hard games
>>720917930>I don’t understand why people think it’s such a bad opinion to have?I don't think that's a bad opinion to have, not directly. But unfortunately it does tend to indicate that you're a particular kind of person. LttP has by far the most outright delusional fanbase of any of the Zelda games. They tend to have a big chip on their shoulder and often seethe at the idea the people prefer other games, like OoT, the their favorite lives in the shadow of. But the reasons they frequently give as to why LttP is supposed to be better than the others are what tends to be the most crazy, as the things they cite send to be just outright objectively wrong.I'm not saying you are necessarily like this, but it's so common I assume that any given self professed fan of the game is more likely to be like this than not.
only loud contrarians think lttp is bad
>>720917930Any Zelda game except Tiktok and Breath of the wild are valid to have as your favorite
>>720920842>Breath of the wildFor all its flaws, I still respect it far more than an unoriginal shear waste of time like TP.
>>720921818>shear
>>720921818Well, you're wrong.
>>720917930I got the GBA remake as a present and I was too dumb as a child to figure out how to progress at all
>>720923109It’s the worst version anyway so it’s a good thing you didn’t
>>720923109This version added a new dungeon and new moves for link but only if you played the shitty four swords game (or cheated)
>>720917930I dont like it much but I think its a fine opinion to have
>>720923109How young of a child are we talking? I 100%'d this as a 9 year old in the 90s with no guide and no internet.
imaginary controversy
>>720924141How dumb as a child are we talking is a better metric because I was so retarded I couldn't figure out how to get all the areas of Mario Super Sluggers I also got stuck on the last temple in Spirit Tracks
>>720917930Both OOT and LTTP are the normalfag picks when it comes to best Zelda game.
>>720917930it's my favorite 2d zelda. the random bullet hells for some of the later levels are annoying, but I like it overall.
>>720917930Because there's all the other ones anon. Why do you like this one the best? It's the most video gamey one. For all the other Zeldas you actually feel like you're there.
>>720917930Link to the past was the game that figured out what zelda is supposed to be.Ocarina basically perfected that idea and made it better.We never really had a good zelda game after except for oracle of seasons.
>>720917930Same shit as every old game that gets shitposted, it's too hard for younger gamers now
>>720919181It's not even close to Zelda 1. It doesn't have the soul, plus it's on rails whereas 1 was open world. Also every item in link to the past was basically just a key, like it's a metroid game. In Zelda 1 you could actually get use out of any item anywhere.
>>720917930It's mostly oot and mm fags crying because the games they grew up with is not your favorite so they feel personally attacked. They always do this whenever someone says a zelda game that's not oot and mm are their favorite.
>>720917930It’s the most common opinion. The only thing I don’t like is that his sprite sucks and the music is grating after a while.
>>720921818>never mentions any flawsAnd any real person would move on by now shill.>>720920842Suicide right now nigger.
>>720917930lttp is the only good zelda game.
>>720917930Its trash once you get to the dark world
>>720917930it's a good game and I love the Zelda games, but Alundra is pretty good too
>>720917930you're wrong because your favorite Zelda game is not Majora's Mask, which does not match my opinion and my opinion is objectively correct
>>720917930While my favorites are breath of the wild and a link between worlds I will say alttp is the best.
>>720917930>I don’t understand why people think it’s such a bad opinion to have?The fuck you talkin about? ALTTP is regularly put in S tier with OOT on just about every ranking/tier list I have ever seen. At WORST I sometimes see it in A rank, assuming the person making it isn't trolling.
>>720917930if Nintendo was smart they'd start making good top down games instead of being Jewish money grubing faggots. their evil
I recently decided to play through all the Zeldas for the first time and I'm currently at the Great Palace in 2. Holy fuck I'm getting assraped. Went in blind and figuring out half the palace leading to a dead end is some fuck the player bullshit. Still having fun though.
>>720921818I have soured on BOTW more now that TOTK exists. You can't really excuse the lack of proper dungeons as them trying something new, now that its just the standard for the series going forwards.
>>720926776>catch fest jobs
>>720917930For me it's ALttP > TP > OoT > WWhaven't played the rest
>>720926776Zelda 2 is a very different type of game. ALTTP was Nintendos attempt to pull the series back to a zelda 1 style after all the hate zelda 2 got.
>>720924006not that anon but I'm gonna need some fucking clarification on thiswhat do you mean "new dungeon" and "new moves"?
>>720926707they literally released a top-down Zelda game last year, anon. it even literally featured Zelda as the main character.
>>720917930you guys are going to hate me. out of all of them my is oot, and wind waker
>>720926776The palaces are so fun to do. Easily the best part of the game
>>720927167yes I have it. you powerd up to become link
most kino zelda
>>720927167>Zelda gets so angry she summons her husband Link
>>720927045You unlock the “Palace of the Four Sword” after beating Four Swords and Ganon in ALTTP. It’s a pretty hard dungeon with lots of traps but the main attractions are the harder versions of bosses. Blind, Mothula, Arrghus, and Helmasaur King. At the end is a new boss against four Dark Links because of the Four Sword.You get a “hurricane spin” which is a spin attack that lets you move around during it like the one in Wind Waker.
>>720926707Why is lonk standing over water?Is he stupid?
>>720927631he's got a pack of floaty hot dogs
If it had more than 5 tracks it'd be the best Zelda game in history
>>720923109This happened to me as a kid but with Oracle of Ages. I'd get to the past and then completely lost on what to do next. I loved Minish Cap back then because it was so linear that it was easy to figure out where to go next
>>720927625which game does the palace show up in?i was not only a poorfag, but a friendless-fag. i didn't have 3 other people to play the game with, PLUS 3 other gameboys, cartridges and the extra bullshit to hook it all up with. I wonder what percentage of players were even able to access the Four Swords game due to this. probably less than 10% off the top of my head
>>720927867seasons was better
>>720917930It’s a fine opinion. I love the lack of cutscenes and dialogue in this game. Straight into the action.
>>720927867>>720927924minish cap was a good game. ages wasn't as good as seasons imo
>>720927908ALTTP. An entrance to it opens up in the Pyramid of Power.
I wish there were more link triforce of courage games
>>720927167Echoes was great. Had so much fun playing it I ended up 100% it.>>720927867Yeah ages is not that good. Played both oracle games and despite playing ages first it would get me exhausted after every session. Season was the compete opposite and had fun the entire time.
>>720917930LTTP is good but idk about best.It's good enough that OOT and TP are basically just 'LTTP but 3D'
>>720928053I think that’s what makes it my favorite honestly. It’s a fun super replayable top down Super Metroid dropping with soul.
>>720928556I want more top downs too
I miss link being a bad ass
>>720928556>>720928719Crypt Custodian might appeal
>>720918516Most of the people who'd call themselves Zelda fans weren't even born when LTTP came out. Also, get a grip, it's OK to like what you like without a fanbase supporting your views.
>>720928719Try the adventures of elliot demo
Nintendo is gay we want link back. I love Zelda, but "come on"
>>720927484Facts. It has incredible atmosphere for a 2D game as well.
>>720929287
>>720930052Based
>>720928793Same
If I rescued Zelda from Ganon the first thing I would do is paint her womb with my cum I can tell you that
>>720933074Based
>>720918508Not everyone knows it seems…
>>720917930People who dislike LTTP tend to be brainlets. Its peak Zelda, though some prefer LA because it has more of a story. I just think LTTP has superior design.LoZ, AoL (fight me), LTTP, LA, OOT, MM, and OoS/A is the strongest example of a series with continuous, unbroken streak of excellent games. It only made sense that the series built a strong reputation with these games.Then Aonuma had to ruin all of it. MM only worked because Koizumi and likely Miyamoto kept his autism in check.
>>720934295I think you’re right for the most part but TP and WW for all their faults carry the torch well enough. SS was the first truly bad Zelda game.
>>720934492I disagree, because I feel that every issue with SS (minus the combat - which I actually enjoyed) originated with WW and TP. WW, TP and SS are a trilogy of Zelda titles that give you zero autonomy. Railroaded from one sequence to another (stealth sections, tears of light, being locked to certain locations, etc) with zero room to explore until the end of the game. Endless cutscenes. Barely any rewards, or real secrets either - when even games like LTTP had tons of optional equipment to find.I get they're not as far gone as BOTW/TOTK (for other reasons) but they're not representative of classic Zelda imo. I do understand why people like them though
It's mine, too. Zelda should have stayed 2D.
>>720934959But there was only one 2D zelda...
>>720935119???
>>720917930Good, but surpassed by the trilogy.
>>720935673Adventure of Link is the only 2d game. The others are top down and 3d.
>>720917930how/why would that be a bad opinion by any metric?
>>720934492>>720934915SS is definitely the worst, only zelda game I have ever dropped. To be fair I didn't touch TOTK, because I knew from one look I would hate it.That being said I still kind of agree with second anons points, TP railroading you into a 3 hour long tutorial is why I've only ever played it once. Even WW I don't care to replay much unless its a rando.
>>720921818minor spelling error
>>720920842My favorite Zelda is Hyrule Warriors.
>>720930052I swear there's a piece of Ys artwork that's exactly like this.
>>7209359192d doesn’t mean sidescroller retard
>>720935919>the top-down 2-dimensional games>somehow not 2DWhat manner of faggotry is this?
>>720936431So a link between worlds and echoes of wisdom are 2d?
>>720936881Don't they operate entirely on a 2D plane?
>>720937146It's from a top down perspective
>>720925565LttP is also nearly completely open when you get to the Dark World. Many of the crystals can be obtained in different orders.
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>>720925565That's kinda bullshit, as LoZ is gatekept by items in almost the exact same way. Just not as strictly as LTTP.
>>720925565It has more soul
>>720936483duh
>>720938165you are retarded
>>720917930Because its not oot, and since oot has become a religion for mentally ill people, and the internet is their pulpit, you get the impression that people think its shit.I dont care if you say "my favourite game is wand of gameleon", I will value your opinion more than any fucking retard who says oot is their favourite.For me though, its maybe top 5, I dunno, I like the first one better because I dont have to spam click through dialogue and Its just a game, Thats also why I like botw/totk, I'd say alttp is top five zeldas, and top 10 games because it gets so much right, but within the zelda series other games do specific things better, kinda like a jack of all trades type deal.
my favorite zelda is aLttP and my second favorite is BotWwhat does this mean?
>>720936374stop anon, he's going to have a stroke.I actually ended up liking AoC so Its on my list of games to pick up
>>720926776ludokino, what a chad.Have fun, and if you ever feel like you suck, just remember that dsp not only beat AoL, but he beat shadow link without cheesing it.dsp literally said "its so easy"dont let dsp mog you, dont fucking cheese shadow link.
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>>720934959As much as I like the 3d games, you are right, if they had never made oot the series would be better for it. We spent twenty years getting babyshit dungeons, and the last 8 we've had good puzzles, but not the labyrinths of the old games.
>>720939153Zelda at its best is a dungeon crawler with a lot of combat, not a puzzle game. LoZ, AoL and LTTP understood this. The focus on puzzles themselves vs dungeon exploration signalled the downfall of the series. Even then, there's plenty of decent 3D Zelda dungeons. OOT's Forest, Spirit, Fire and Water Temples are peak. All the Majora's Mask dungeons are great. Problem with OOT are the piss easy filler dungeons like the Child Dungeons, or unfinished rushed shit like the Shadow Temple.
>>720938165God, you're retarded.
>>720917930It's not a bad opinion. OoT is my goat, but even younger me was playing ALttP, and it was the pinnacle of playground game rumoring. Picrel's poignancy wasn't entirely lost on me even as a squirt, too.
>>720939774I think you went retarded the fore a moment.The water temple, yes, ironically the only temple that actually felt like a traditional zelda dungeon (and much like tower of hera) was the one everyone hated (which i never understood), Forest temple had a GREAT atmosphere, but it failed as a puzzle, it failed as a combat challenge, and it failed as a labyrinth, which is crazy because it seems to be the perfect fit for all three.Fire temple though...dude I dont know what you are smoking, I just replayed that last week and I was shocked at how much the last two decades had "glazed" that pile of shit.
>>720940415>the fore a moment*there for a momentwas that my retarded computer, my retarded keyboard, or my retarded brain? what the fuck
>>720940415I'm under the impression that OOT Dungeons got gimped during development for people unfamiliar with 3D. The prototype versions of a number of stages were certainly more labyrinthine, like the prototype Deku Tree and Water Temples. It's also been stated that combat got dumbed the fuck down as well.
>>720940636I found a '99 interview with miyamoto that confirms this, I havent seen info on what anything was meant to look like, but miyamoto literally bitches in the interview about having to drop the traditional dungeons because they didnt work well in 3d, he also bemoaned the inclusion of navi and wanted her to be at least more cryptic, but instead they settled on her treating you like a retard.People often talk about kapora gaebora as being "like miyamoto himself is guiding me through this journey" when apparently miyamoto was miffed about all the hand holding.I seem to remember another interview with aonuma where he said they were nervous about 3d so it motivated them to ensure everything was overly accessible.Its so gay that oot's success warped the series since it sold exactly as well as the first game, so the constant chasing of that high was predictably pointless, but by that point it had become a cultural staple and it was almost too late.I just hope that the success of botw/totk means that they are willing to go back and remake the first three games, because if that happens and they sell well enough, we might actually get back on track.
>>720939774The three pillars of zelda are exploration>puzzles>combat. Combat has never been the main focus of zelda
>>720942739>Combat has never been the main focus of zeldaRepeat after me:Zelda did not start in 1997
>>720943034Exploration has always been the main focus of zelda
>>720943270Which is why totk is peak zelda
>>720943429lmao no the main focus of totk was the building mechanics
>>720942739Bullshit. Exploration and combat are what you're doing 99% of the time in classic Zelda. The VAST majority of rooms in LoZ or LTTP involve killing all enemies, with the occasional switch to flip or block to push. That "puzzle" aspect was only introduced to such a degree in the 3D games - IE, where dungeon crawling and difficulty were gutted.>>720943429Can't be when the dungeons are trash. While that other anon said "exploration", that includes dungeon crawling not just the overworld.
>>720918508It's a great game, but Link's Awakening was a better 2d experience for me.
>>720942739Tell me you never played Zelda 2 without saying you never played Zelda 2.
>>720938432you have good taste and high expectations for the ideal form of the series
Links Awakening > OoT > LTTPThe rest are irrelevant.
>>720944568Fag
>>720944568You got it all messed up, but I'll help you:ALttP > LA > Minish Cap > Oracles > the rest, 3D Zeldaslop doesn't matter
>>720940107Based
>>720926814This is so weird to me. Supposed fans writing off a game because it doesn't meet their silly checklist of "musts". BotW is legitimately one of the best gaming experiences I've had in forty years. TotK is a duct-taped together hodge-podge of Roblox mechanics.
>>720948774And BOTW comes across as a tech demo with dumbed down combat, and awful dungeons. Not all of us are satisfied by ubi-slop progressing. The large open world should serve Zelda's core gameplay, not overwrite it. I enjoyed BOTW, but when people across the internet call it "GOAT", it's easy for long term Zelda fans to be annoyed when it's severely lacking in certain core respects.
>>720949246Yeah it’s missing too much even if it’s a beautiful experience anyway
>>720949967That's why I pray that its overworld system is used in a more dungeon and combat focused entry in the future. Make the overworld like, 2/3rds of the size and fill it with more stuff. I'm okay with the survival aspects, I'm just tired of the physics engine puzzle bullshit.
>>720927908I played it as a kid and loved itI still think it holds up due to lack of competition in the genre. An ostensibly coop game that is slightly competitive with room for trollingThe rupee wraith is such a funny enemy>you and your teammates each open a chest from a row of them>you get 100 rupees, someone else gets 10, last person gets a rupee wraith>chases them knocking rupees out of their pocket which other players can pick up, but if a player touches by the current target, it switches to chasing them instead
>>720918516Are you seriously considering troll posts on here as valid? LTTP is a top tier Zelda game, end of story
>>720952274Zoomers don’t have the attention span for it
>>720917930For me it's Majora's Mask but sometimes i lie and i say it's LTTP because Majora's Mask fans have a bad reputation.
>>720953006They don’t have a bad reputation tho
>>720953086They used to get made fun of for the whole pretending it's too dark for kids thing.
>>720917930It's very generic and straightforward (story) and for me, that's a good thing.
>>720941989>botw/totkBut those aren't good games anon....
>>720941989>botw/totk>Boy I sure love going on a a glorified scavenger hunt for korok seeds and shrines>Boy I sure love seeing the same copy paste enemies over and over>Boy I sure love the shit boss fights>Boy I sure love going into my inventory a million times>Boy I sure love the shitty voice acting>Boy I sure love the muddy green graphics>Boy I sure love the complete lack of a storystop it already
I wish getting the Golden Sword was more special. Tossing it into a fat fairy fountain is lame BUT it’s funny…
>>720938165I've been saying this forever, too. Don't forget you can even JUMP in this game.
>>720953850>Boy I sure love going on a a glorified scavenger hunt for korok seeds and shrinesThey're just as bad as trade sequences>Boy I sure love seeing the same copy paste enemies over and overClearly you never play a zelda game >Boy I sure love the shit boss fightsThey're terrible but a lot of zelda bosses are terrible >Boy I sure love going into my inventory a million timesClearly you never play a zelda game >Boy I sure love the shitty voice actingI agree with this remove voice acting >Boy I sure love the muddy green graphicsZelda is not known for its amazing graphics >Boy I sure love the complete lack of a storyGood I don't want cinematic cutscenes with long dialogs like most games.
>>720954705Played*
>>720917930Everybody considers LTTP the best 2D Zelda.
>>720955536>best Zelda
>>720917930Says who? What video essay did you watch?Literally nobody says that, it's the most popular 2-D Zelda game by a huge margin.
>>720956113People born after 1994
>>720917930It is the objectively correct choice.But his hair should be pink.
>>720956778More like people born after 2004 then, which makes any opinion they have about video games irrelevant, anyway. Almost nobody that played the game and were in the 90's hate ALttP.
>>720944568Link's Awakening was too linear for my tastes. The world being largely explorable (even with some areas being gated) is my favourite part of LttP.
>>720957848Same
