Play Diablo 1
So what is it that makes Diablo better than Diablo 2 or all the other knock offs? At face value, it seems like Diablo 2 has more of everything. But it's just so fucking dull.
>Get Godly Plate of the Whale>It has Arkaine’s Valor skin and gives you the medium armor sprite with the tabardI was so happy when I got that one.
Overwatch 2 is better
>>720949861It's closer to the roguelike roots than the more RPG style of D2
>>720949861The art style. It was the classic 80’s Halloween aesthetic to the weapons and armor. Like a classic Thrash Metal album art.
>It's hot AS FUCK down herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq8mMYqj9Kc
>>720949861Much less of a grindy skinnerbox and more of a straighforward dungeon crawling experience.
>>720949861Diablo 1 is a game that ends when you beat the boss rather than Diablo 2 going for the endless grindfest. The vibes of D1 are way more on horror than powerfantasy.
>>720949861I just like it more.
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>>720949706the movement felt terrible, dropped it very fast, i guess slow games just arent for me
>>720949706Did I beat the game if I savescummed Wirt for BiS gear including a King's Sword? It only had +attributes on it and not ias so I think that's fair.
>>720952098Everyone in this thread duped and beat the game. You're fine and beat it as well.
>>720949861it's not better IMO but it's a great game in its own right, D1 walked so D2 could run (out of stamina)
>THIS KID STICK AN EVIL ARTIFACT IN HIS HEAD>I KNOW! I SHOULD DO IT TOOIm baffled how retarded this is
>>720952098I guarantee anybody who ever played the game on multiplayer was rocking godly plate of the whale or some other similar duped/hacked item
>>720952249>>720952616It doesn't take much, you can settle for -1/2 armor or modifier tiers below the best right. Last playthrough it seemed like rings would only roll attributes and mana, so I just took them, and the mana bonus was actually godlike on the warrior when I was methodically clearing out the lower levels. But on hell, fuck that, I teleported to the exits.
>>720949898Hacked item, loser.
>>720949706D1 is too basic to be any fun. D2 is where it's at. Nobody gives a fuck about the first game.
>>720953870shut up, zoomie. don't try to speak about things you don't know
>>720949861>So what is it that makes Diablo better than Diablo 2 or all the other knock offs?Two things:1. It's not 2. Atmosphere
>>720952596The best part is that Blizz North wanted a happy ending, but the cinematic team just went rogue.
>>720952249>>720952098>>720952616>everybody must have a small penis like me You didn't beat the game.
I unironically want a From Software remake of Diablo.
>>720952616>wizspike gloves>shenksbitches dont know about my vex rings
>>720949861Art style, music, and level design are all better in D1. Mostly because it's a smaller and more intimate game. D2 added a ton of unnecessary grind and filler
>>720954465Would you want a remake faithful to the gameplay of Diablo, or do you mean like a King's Field/Dark Souls with a Sanctuary reskin?Funny enough, when I was playing Diablo 2 and thinking about what I'd like to see in future ARPGs, Demon's Souls actually delivered on a lot of those. Mostly I wanted pared back stats with less of a power gap between low- and high-level characters, more focus on encounters with a few dangerous enemies rather than screen clearing, and so forth. I remember playing DeS and feeling like it really recaptured a lot of what I'd enjoyed about the first Diablo, especially how invading often felt similar to tracking down players when PK'ing.
>>720953328You’re just jealous I got away with it.
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>>720949861art style and sound mostlyalso the succubi are super hot in diablo 1
Sexo with Rogue
>>720949861I think 2 is better overall but 1 is better at being an actual dungeon crawl rpg experience instead of a loot autism game. also atmosphere and music.
>>720949861Diablo 1 is very much a roguelike with some QoS features (for the time at least) and pretty graphics.Diablo 2 is a hack and slash with extreme grind but still the peak of the genre. Well, maybe along with Grim Dawn.Some like the slow paced gameplay with randomized quests and excellent atmosphere in Diablo 1 while others enjoy the grind of Diablo 2.Personally I like both, they're great games, and each hold on their own.Tower of Kalemonvo is a nice Diablo 1 inspired game that came recently from a /v/dev iirc, if you want something newer. I enjoyed it a lot.
>>720958847*QoL I mean't duh
>>720958847thisdespite name, they represent a diffirent genre one is a dungeon crawler, other is hack and slash/arpg. Both are great
>>720949706"The sancitity of this board has been fouled"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQCg-uHOrZk
As weird as it sounds I like how the heroes from the first game all ended with terrible fates for daring to fight Diablo.You are a mere mortal fighting the literal eldritch embodiment of Terror, you have to end up dead and forever cursed at minimum.
>>720958847insane freudian slip, kys
>>720949706>widescreenyou didn't beat the game
>>720949706tried but get filtered
>>720959524Diablo 1 and 2 had a great feeling of hopelessness, even though in 2 you're much stronger than in 1, you're constantly on the backfoot chasing after Diablo cleaning up the mess his corruption brings into the world.
>>720949706That window title doesn't say Diablo.
i do love both diablo1 and 2 but what i really loved about diablo 1s mechanical wise is the feature to unlock intel on a specific enemy after you kill those with certain thresholds giving more info about their hp/attack/elemental weakness or weapon types/and if they had resistances of any kind i miss discovering such things instead of having them on display from the very first moment
>>720960062D2 is great at this>Act 1 shows you how a great sisterhood of heroes are utterly crush by one Lesser Evil>Act 2 stars calm but under the surface things are very dire and ends with Baal getting out while piloting Tal Rasha body>Act 3 is very hopeless with a fantastic civilization completely destroyed and at the helmet one of the Prime Evils who slow cooked a paladin order>Act 5 is very fucking sad, all th NPC are deeply wounded both in pride for not been able to live to the legends of the Barbarians of the past and the lost of life in the invasion>game ends with the destruction of the World Stone the only thing keeping evil in the world at bayYeah both Diablo 1 and 2 keep things very bleak but dont shy away from making you feel strong yet vulnerable as a human with the endings of each game feeling hollow I love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMg2K9PQK9E because its the perfect example of the mood of Diablo in general.
>>720959753from what?
>>720949861Grid based movement. That's literally the fucking key gameplay wise
>>720949706Wasn't there a web client that allowed you to play in browser? I remember doing an iron mode run of D1 with anons here like 4 years ago.
>>720949706I did last year, twice. Still holds up well provided you use DevilutionX for modern resolutions/increasing the move speed in town/arguably increasing the game speed in general. Finished Menzo the other night and I'll probably be starting up Strahd's Possession soon, maybe even tonight if I don't fall down the DDO-hole
>>720963389There is a different ending in the dos version? there is a dos version?
>>720964823of course there's a dos version, no idea about the endings though
Is the Battlenet version worth it?
>>720965164the fuck did you post then?
>>720965298No, just pirate the Gog version. In fact you can play it in your browser https://d07riv.github.io/diabloweb/
>>720958847i wanted to like tower of kalemonvo but theres no "town" hub with npcs like d1 had
>>720964823Players of the disk-based game will find less variety in the wall sets used and in the types of creatures set to oppose the party. No voices accompany the disk-based game, and sound effects have been reducedto but a few of those found in the CD-ROM game.The reason for these limitations rests in the vast difference between the capacity of floppy disks and the amount of data which can be stored on a CD.The quests needed to win the game are essentially the same in both versions, with the exception of the myconid level and the quests associated with it.There are, however, the following differences:In the disk-based game, Vierna Do’Urden and Malice Do’Urden look alike, as do Rizzen Do’Urden and the average drow fighter.Among the NPCs, the centaur appears only in the CD-ROM version of Menzoberranzan.The svirfneblin named Vlakverdling also appears only in the CD-ROM version.Both the svirfneblin and the entire quest involving the Myconid King and the myconid level are missing from the disk-based game.In the disk-based game, the following changes in creatures have been made:Umber hulks are replaced by hook horrors.Night hunters are replaced by cloaker lords.Spitting crawlers are replaced by osquip.Bugbears are replaced by gnolls.Violet fungi are replaced by shriekers.Ropers are replaced by uropygi.Leucrotta are replaced by verbeeg giants.Fungi skeletons do not appear in the disk-based game.Derro savants look exactly like the regular derro, but they do cast spells as savants.That was from the CD version so maybe they fucked with the ending in that to save space, never played it on floppy. I was going to say the dos version's the only version but apparently they made a PC-98 version too, which was floppy.>>720965671That's a damn shame because the town was actually important in D1 even if you ignore the story since there were a ton of good gold sinks there. D1's possibly the only Diablo where gold is precious.
>>720966027If you have a human response after your nigger ai garbage then add brackets or i wont risk reading your shitty fucking post
>>720949706I dont want to walk at a snails pace :(
>>720964823There is also a ps1 version
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>>720965390because you asked a question you stupid retard
>>720966550Nigger what is this? >>720963389Is it what i asked or something else?
>>720966465Provide summary and explain why the previous poster is a retard
>>720955703>the succubi are super hot in diablo 1Yeah.
but its old and crap...yucky old game
>>720966849ENHANCE
>>720966027>ton of good gold sinks therei hate when devs don't include a gold sink system in arpgs, like fuck man just give me a gambling vendor where i can just spend all my gold there to get a good item
>>720949706>no scaling>nine times more map visible than intendedI wanted to at least clear normal before moving on to D2 but by the time I hit caves I was already losing interest in playing Auto Attack Simulator. Having only magical spells for active abilities was an immense design oversight.
>>720949706never played D1 in its glory days. i played it on my phone (DevilutionX(free app))(there may be cheating aspects to it? & also limiting factors?); i'm convinced that this game in hell mode, is made specifically for multiplayer? what are ur thoughts?mage is EZ mode & i can breeze thru hell mode with him, but not the other 2
It's crap. Randomized dnd is a crap idea. Play Pool of Radiance or even the ToEE game.
How did the Rogue and Mage get corrupted? The canon vessel was the Warrior.
>>720968290mmm pussi
>>720969543the mage from D1 in D2 got 'trapped' in the arcane sanctuary, by his own undoing. & i think the rouge turned into the blood raven; idk why
>>720969946Andariel gave her demon heroin
>>720959538Quality of Service, you ignorant fag.
>>720970150She wasn't weak tho; She literally killed Diablohttps://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Windforce_(Diablo_I)
>>720970404>>720970150Andariel is a lesser evil I mean.
>>720970404Diablo did not offer demon heroin, critical mistake.
>per pixel shader stuff for devilutionx became some obscure private build shitdamn
>>720949706It's just more "comfy"?II has you going to the shitty desert and a shitty swamp and then the south korean mmo hell. I is much more restrained.
>>720970983i think ur right, sorry. could've sworn she shoved the soul stone in her head when u beat the game as the Rogue
>dies in an ingame cutscene
>>720965298>a game from 1995 on a launcher with higher system requirements and a constant internet connection I hate what gabe did to pc gaymin
Can you get a good melee/spell mix in Diablo? Like monk using staff charges plus some other spells? Or is that splitting effectiveness too much and/or staff-cast spells just aren't good or available?
>>720949706explain what you even do apart from spam right click
>>720949861- better graphics- better atmosphere- better level design- better tactical combat- better end goal- better succubus tits and ass
>>720968290Warrior isn't that hard, just carry a spare bow for the occasional annoying ranged enemies, and use chokepoints, e.g. doors to sieve groups into 1-on-1 combat, and if you don't have one handy, corners to fight them 3-on-1. And always max out hit recovery.
>>720949706Wings is that you making these threads every day?
>>720968519Pool of Radiance is literal pain without a walkthrough.
>>720949973No
>>720949861Nostalgia and enjoying the simplicity. Diablo 2 is on another league in terms of quality
>>720949706is Belzebub good?
Lazarus's room makes me want to kms every time i replay the game.
>>720972406Could DSP finish Diablo I?
>>720972516I wasn't a big fan, has some autistic tedium without adding that much, better off just going full-blown autism and playing The Hell 2/3 instead
>>720949706This played surprisingly very well on PlaystationI had on PC first of course but somehow got that version I don't even remember how and was pretty damn impressed
>>720972591bro he can't even finish mario kart hows he going to figure out the controls for Diablo
>>720971918>implying Valve would've been the only one to try the online storefront thing30 IQ take. If Valve didn't do it, someone else would've, and every storefront that isn't Steam (and GoG) has been complete ass in a lot of ways, so I figure Steam being mostly-neutral is probably a lot better than whatever we would've gotten instead.>>720949861Dunno, Diablo 1 is fine as a historical point of reference for ARPGs as a whole, but I just can't get into it anymore, even though I grew up with it and both me and my dad played the shit out of it (and D2).Drives me batty how little customization each character got and how super unbalanced the game is. In a competition between D1 and Darkstone, I pick Darkstone every time (especially with that peak sovl of the singer in town you can pay to sing, that shit is god-tier and I wish more games did shit like that.)I still have yet to play the D1 expansion though. My cousin had it and I was super jealous, but I never got to try it out.I really should just install Devilution or whatever since I've got two chinkhelds that can run it; I don't think I have enough of a giveadamn to give a damn about bothering with it, I'd rather play any other ARPG at this point.
>>720971789Don't forget to add:>to a literal fucking nobody
>>720972906pretty sure that post was bait
>>720949706No, it's Satanic.
Do you like Leah?
>>720949861Diablo 1 works as a self contained game. You just play it and enjoy it. Wanna play it again with a new character? Go ahead.Diablo 2 may have once been that, but it's since been bastardized beyond the concept into an endless loot grind. Now it's not just finishing the game, its finishing the campaign so you can play the REAL GAME over and over for bigger dice rolls. And the base game suffers for it, by being balanced around this endless shitty concept. Then, every other fucking ARPG since copied it.
>>720949706Old ass unc game
is vanilla solo worth it?
>>720973154She aight. Her story and fate felt surprisingly malicious even for a grim setting like Diablo.
>>720968290That's a big hand.
>>720973497It's actually kind of funny how Diablo 3 was so bright and colorful with the Warcraft design influences, but it's absolutely fucked how things turn out for just about everyone involved, while Diablo 4 tried to be grim dark and edgy to win back the complainers and yet despite some horrific stuff ends up playing itself out more optimistically in a weird ass way.
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>>720968290>i'm going into battle, let me put retarded piercings on my foot that will fuck my shit up when it snags on anything
What ARPG has the best summoner gameplay?
Your character cannot run/sprint in Diablo 1, making the game unplayable.
>>720978763I want to see something that pulls a lot from the aRPG but really is lite RTS. Multiple categories of summon that are good at different things and for which you have some tools to point them where to prioritize.
>>720978853>character moves with 2x sped up walking animation>game bad>character moves with slowed down run animation>game good
>>720973316I don't remember writing this post.
>>720949861Diablo 1's atmosphere blows 2's out of the water
>>720978763probably last epoch>>720978940last epoch allows you some measure of dictation over what your summons do (aggressive, defensive, attack a specific target, move here, etc) and allows you to have different kinds of summons (support, ranged, melee, tanky, dps) but unfortunately you can't granularly control them by group/type yet
>>720952596there was no other choicehe wanted to contain diablo, at least temporarily
>>720975613 Yeah, it’s like they completely flipped the tone vs the presentation. D3 looks like Disneyland Hell with WoW-lite characters, but actual narrative beats are just a parade of suffering. Meanwhile, D4 is all about LOOK AT OUR GRIME and "mother is also evil, kinda" moral greyness, then ends with half the cast still kicking, hope and rebuilding on the menu. They somehow made the super-edge game feel like a comfy reset arc. Blizz can’t tone match to save their lives.
>>720969543>RogueBrought back all the new magic and knowledge (+Andariel's spirit) from under Tristram and revamped the Sisterhood of the Sightless Eye to study deep into unknown magics, which led to Andariel exploiting their curiosity and convincing them she's their all-powerful ancestor and needs to be "revived" (summoned) into Sanctuary for them to survive an upcoming cataclysm. Surprise, Andariel herself was the cataclysm, and everyone already corrupted by her influence became the demonic rogues.*Outright explained in secret dev docs that were shared by the D2 writer a couple years ago, but also hinted through her quest in-game and Arreat Summit's lore blurbs.>MagePossessed by something under Tristram (likely in his Bartuc encounter), which convinced him to run off to Lut Gholein, where he 'somehow' knew was the location of Horazon's Arcane Sanctuary and how to open it. He was driven mad by the spirit and believed himself to be Horazon the Summoner and started summoning demons again inside the Arcane Sanctuary, which due to the open portal meant them wandering back out into Lut Gholein's palace.*explained in-game from his quest
Already did.
