>steam Windows 10 support ends in 1 month
>>720977223And I'm still on Windows 10
>>720977223I'm on Mint..Linux Mint.
Why is Bill Gates so evil?
How long does W10 have until it's compromised? A couple months? A week? A day? A few hours?
I don't care. I'm sticking with Windows 10 until Microsoft makes a new version of Windows that doesn't suck ass. I'll wait as long as it takes.
>>720977348A literal day, not joking
what does no support mean?does it mean they just won't update it anymore or does it mean you'll be forced to update AGAINgod I'm getting so fucking tired of these NIGGERERRRSSSS
>>720977348all of microsoft's OSes have been compromised on day 1, windows 10 probably isnt different.
>>720977223What does support ending even mean?
>>720977223Realistically what will even happen if I keep using 10 after support ends?
>>720977425>Realistically what will even happen if I keep using 10 after support ends?viruses, not getting performance updates, lots of apps not working, direct shit not working in new games, EAC refusing to work etc
>>720977425No security exploits will be patched which means you have a higher risk of catching virus
I skipped windows 10 entirely. I had a shitty laptop with win 7 and got win 11 on my new pc.
>>720977397It just means no updates, but even that is only half true. They just frame it like that so you switch to 11.
>>720977348from the start
>>720977452>>720977458>virusAs in they can brute force a virus just being online or will the usual don't download anything suspicious and don't get virus method I've used for years be enough?
>>720977223i want to upgrade but what the fuck is tnp
i will switch to catchyos
>>720977541Both are possible.
Fuck W11 I have to use it for work and I hate itThe only good thing is the Windows Explorer having tabs which is useful but that's it
>>720977348Use MAS and get 3 more years of updates for your windows 10 pro.
>>720977425Nothing, I stayed on windows 8 for 5 years or so after end of support and nothing happened. If you have a version older than the 2022 one you won't have forced updates anymore (which is good).
>>720977541>As in they can brute force a virus just being online or will the usual don't download anything suspicious and don't get virus method I've used for years be enough?sites that you visit have tons of scripts that can be malicious to your PC, even images on gooogle
>Processor isn't currently supported for Windows 11Well shit. I'm too broke to afford anything new.
>>720977541Think about it this way.Every time you've tried to download something that windows defender blocked or windows contained a suspicious file you've encountered previously is when you'd possibly be in trouble.So if your methods of diligence mean you've only had 1 or two of those for years then you should be fine.An antivirus, script blocker and don't go clicking on random websites like a normal person should be fine.Just remember that we live in a society and because W10 support is going down people leap on the opportunity simply because it's there.
Is Windows 11 free?
im a technically illiterate working in IT, but how can I update.i never even activated my windows 10. it still has the activation notice. it sometimes randomly disappears funnily enough.
>>720977223>normalfags didn't know sbout LTSCjej it's over for them
I will not install an OS that saves AI annotated screenshots of my goon sessions. Microsoft showed their hand. I don't give a shit how optional it is and how it's disabled by default. You twats constantly "accidentally" enable new features or fuck with default programs and shit.I'd unironically pay an annual fee to keep w10 updated at this point.
>>720977821You think you have it tough? I have pirated version of 10
>>720977871dude, windows 10 is just as bad as 11 privacy wise, thats not a valid point to not update
I was given a laptop with Win 11 on it. I'm not tech literate enough for something like Linux, is there point in attempting to downgrade to Win 10 or not?
>>720977223just buy the extended support poorfag
I'm always scared to update using their shit last time I did 7 to 10 it fucked my routine up so much with blue screens too. Why can't they create an installer that works properly
>>720977857LTSC is designed for corporations that have heavy firewalls.
>>720977879>You think you have it toughNo, I think I have no clue. I have no fucking idea what windows installation I have or how to update it. i just wanna run xp or sth bros....
>>720977223Install CachyOS
kys bill
>>720977908Let me be delusional.
>>720977223How much of a pain is to setup Linux mint and a windows virtual machine for game and other stuff that doesn't work on Linux?
I switched a few days ago. It's my first time using Linux as a main OS and aside from 1 or 2 things I had to work out with google its been just fine.
>>720978087Not that hard as long as you have the RAM.In fact, I might do that. Linux is pretty good these days for everyday computer use but I still need Windows for software.
Do you think Microsoft is going to pressure them to stop supporting 10? They have to know how absurd it would be to expect them to push away half their userbase
>>720978087>Install LinuxPiss easy. It's just clicking next next next next.... in the installer>Virtual machineDepending on your gpu it can be anything from a simple config change to compiling software yourself.
>>720978136Why nobara though? It's a one-man project
>>720978261>It's a one-man projectno, it isn't
>:)
>>720977746>1 or two >getting anything blockedBetter advice would be he switchs to mac
>>720978228>6700xt>32gb ramhow fucked am I?
>>720978335>Install CachyOS>Install cachyos-gaming-meta>Install Winboat for easy Windows VM
>>720977223Microsoft's support of Windows 10 has nothign to do with Valve's support of it
>>720978335AMD should give you an easier time but I don't know the specifics because I never bothered with GPU passthrough.
>>720978136been running Nobara for almost 2 years, get yourself acquainted with Timeshift ASAPgonna save you a lot of headaches with updating
>>720978314Sorry, a one woman thing
>>720978405Steam is dropping windows 10 in 2026
>>720978317Not sure what you're trying to say.What I said is if you've only had 1 or 2 instances where defender had to intervene previously over the years you've used windows 10 then you're probably diligent enough to not click on random shit on the internet
>>720978448No they aren't.
>>720978087also does mint lets me do cool shit like those ricing videos? I don't want to jump into the shark tank that is arch Linux (at least until I get a second micro PC to fuck around with it without ruining my main PC).
>>720977348you've been compromised from the moment you install windows or insert intel cpu in the socketprivate users don't matter in 99,9% cases because no one is rich enough to try to scam themreal "hacking" is only happening to crucial infrastructure because they can blackmail them for millions
>>720977410No more security updates.>someone finds an exploit>MS doesn't patch it anymore
>>720978440made me kek, you cheeky lil cuntbut still, no it ain't
>>720978513And what I am saying is,If anyone has that problem better advice would be that they switch to mac
>>7209786382 women?
>>720978625Extended security support ends in late 2026.Why is thread filled to the brim with fearmongering retards?
>>720977223>support comes back one month later
SAARS, DO THE UPGRAYDING OF 11sVERI SECURIFUL AND MUCH PERFORMANCE
>>720978261I don't mind, it works well for gaming while being a nice middle ground between full autism like CachyOS and full on locked down cant do anything like Bazzite.>>720978432I will, thanks for the tip.
Why are autists so afraid of new things, the same was with win 7. I dont get it, why is it so anxious to move on from a familiar thing to a new one?
>>720977223I would still be on Windows 7 if they didn't push planned obsolescence on directX and all games that require itWindows 10 is shit and 11 is even worse. It's overly intrusive spyware, bloated, poorly optimized and doesn't respect its user in the slightest. It's an operating system build to neatly slot into a sanitized advertiser economyPure fucking AIDS
>>720978782MAXIMUM RRRESULTS
>>720977223Works on my machine
>trust me goy->trust me guys you need to immediately buy new thing right now now now>trust me go- guys, if you don't, hackers who specialize in actually doing corpo level randsoms and more will magically all target every single pc who has ever existed from every poorfag in the world>You, yes, YOU, will suddenly get barraged by every single security exploit in the black market if you don't update your computer>Every single possible exploit and virus and worm and technique will be used to hack Johnson Smiths windows 10 steam machine to do... something with it>I'm sure full time tech geniuses will spend all of their time trying to fuck with you, a broke ass bitch doing a 9 to 5 or shitposting on 4chan instead of a corporation or government running on windows xp>UPGRADE NOW!
I said this in /g/ thread and I say this again here - I have laptop with Win11 at work and this OS is complete disaster.>everything - UI, Start Menu, everything - lags visibly, annoying as hell. Some /g/ posters suggested it might be related to how system is trying to connect to some MS services with internet, which adds even more grim implications (and what if I lose connection?)>16gb in laptop and 8gb is already taken on standby after restart >Start Menu cannot be restored to Win10 style anymore because reasons (registry edit no longer works, these fucks at MS probably removed Win10 legacy menu all together), Win11 style is awful phone-like garbage with tons of empty spaces after removing "recommended" section and tiny icons>JavaScript UI probably because jeets don't know anything else>fuck Copilot, fuck AI, stop pushing it EVERYWHERE>tabs in Explorer is awful idea, fuck that>all UI third party software will potentially gets completely broken with updates and all seems to be keen on restoring Win7 style, I honestly prefer Win10 styleFuck that noise, Win10 was good OS and I'm tired pretending otherwise.
>>720978793Also, how big is your /boot partition? If you're not too settled in already, make it ~2 gigs
>>720978821>if don't want to switch to the inferior, inefficient and harmful product you are le SCARED AUTISTOGenuinely kill yourself.
>>720978557>I don't want to jump into the shark tank that is arch LinuxArch really isn't all that different from any other version of Linux, it's just updated more frequently and has a fuckhuge user repository you can get just about anything you need from, which is why it's usually recommended for gayman. You can just download a pre-packaged distro like Manjaro (the specific distro doesn't really matter all that much, just pick something popular and well supported) that comes with KDE and rice to your heart's content. I know that windows has conditioned you to be scared of the update button, but on linux it generally means your programs work better and it doesn't go randomly fucking around with all your settings. The long term support distros usually tend to be more trouble than they're worth when it comes to something like gaming that benefits from having all the up to date shit, from what I've found.
>>720978652You're not making much sense buddy.Sounds like you're just fearmongering.
>>720977425Something like this.
> supportUhuh> change hardware> activate windows watermark appears> try troubleshooter for the 1/106 chance it works> it doesn't> search online for solution> no luck> submit support ticket> ticket marked as solved, no solution provided> submit support ticket again> get contacted by jeet> walks me through troubleshooter> doesn't work> we will call you back saar> never contacted again, ticked marked as solved> submit third ticket> ticket marked as solvedOnce win10 reaches EOL, I'm switching over fully to linux.
>>720977223I'm on LTSC and will stay on LTSC until 2035, at which point I'll switch to Linux.
>"support" ends>...>nothing happens>only now you dont have daily updates bothering you, no more loading of bloatware and changing of settings>because end of support means end of active development, not that they fucking nuke the thing off your computerI swear /v/ is getting tired of this "im pretending to be retarded"I wont even give you a ewe for this
>>720977223I hate how they can just force you to downgrade to a shittier model like that. Every iteration of windows is just shittier than the last in every way. All we ever needed was XP.
>>720977223Normal version of Win7 still has updates from times to times. It will be the same for win10. So, no worries.
>>720978937>You're not making much sense buddy.That doesn't mean a lot coming from an esl>Sounds like you're just fearmongering.How can you say that when you don't understand what I say?
>>720977691
>>720977223Just enrol in the extended security.
you guys do know support ending doesn't really mean anything right? >b-but muh viruses just install a third party anti virus
>>720978916Pretty sure it made it 2gigs by default, assuming this is correct.
>>720978570exactly, unless you are a literal retard clicking email links or opening .exe's off of dodgy sites, you are fineive never once had an antivirus installed, and ive never had a virus. its really as simple as to not be retardedthe people out there hacking like people imagine are going after big fish, not some random nigger kid playing video games all day.The mafia arent going to bother shaking down some random loser on the street, are they? and that random loser wont be mugged by the smallfry if they stay out of the black hoods.
>>720977223I literally can't install Windows 11, it doesn't support my hardware. No way in hell am I dropping dough on a new mobo, CPU *AND* RAM (and going through the trouble of installing it all) in the current climate just to satisfy some dipshit that thinks he owns my PC. I am not even remotely alone in this. Microsoft is in for a massive wake-up call. If Gates wants me on Windows 11 he'd better fuckin pay ME for the trouble.
>>720979067>Extended Security Updates for organizations and businesses on Windows 10 can be purchased today through the Microsoft Volume Licensing Program, at $61 USD per device for Year One. >The price doubles every consecutive year, for a maximum of three years.
>>720979093>a third party anti virusthese are worse than any virusyou don't need one at all if you know what you're doing
>>720979067Would do if it fucking showed up
This shit makes me straight up mad, i don't want to upgrade. I don't even a thave pm cpu. 11 seems like an inferior product and just a trojan for a bunch of surveillance state bullshit. You're really powerless in the end and they can just force this shit because they have a monopoly.
>>720977223total turdie death
>>720979154And if someone doesn't know what they are doing they should switch to mac
>>720978925Do you get anxious if you have to go somewhere but cant go there the same route as you usually take?
>>720979110yeah, all good
>>720979239Honestly, get help anon.>People who have an operating system I don't like deserve to die.
>>720977223Just like with Windows 7, all it takes is google to drop support for chromium. Even people with win10 IoT will have to upgrade the computer. And knowing how much faggots google pajeets are, that's going to happen soon after the drop of support.Sucks because the generic win11 motherboard drivers for old hardware has a wide range of problems. In my computer, even skipping/patching the tdm bullshit, win11 does not detect the secondary hard drives.
>>720977348as long as you aren't a retard you can run windows 10 for ten more years. end of support doesn't mean much.Windows XP had an actual critical vulnerability and Microsoft released a Windows Update to fix it, long after support had ended for WinXP. Why? Because millions of PCs still had XP installed and MS don't want them all to turn into botnets, and then some reporter ask them why they didn't patch it even though they knew about it ("end of support" might be valid but it doesn't look good when your company is the size of MS).
>>720977223im switching to linux soon
>>720979285>Peoplelol
>>720979285Honestly, kill yourself then go back to discord
>>720979325Fatass
>>720977315man literally stepped into a vibrant open source computing community and said "i should be getting paid for this" off rip.
why does windows 11 have trash uiit didnt need to be that bad, but they did it anyways
troonixtards are a meme>no fifa>no fortnite>no lol>no valorant>no call of duty>no battlefield 6>no destiny 2>no ea games at all
>>720977607I kneel
>>720979372Seriously, take my advice you will thank me
>>720979379all good devs were replaced by jeets
>>720977919Don't look at porn Microsoft saves svreenshots on 11
>>720979125Use Rufus to do it anon. Google "How to use Rufus to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware"
>>720979419How about you go for a walk fattie and stop eating chipotle everyday
windows vs loonix>lol u gay>no u, pajeet lolloonix vs slightly different loonix>DEATH TO INFIDELS>[50000 word essay on why the "others" are beasts in semi-human figure and should be gassed]What is the cause for this?
>>720977691Unless your processor is REALLY REALLY old, there's programs you can download to check your computer's actual ability to upgrade. If it passes, you can then usually bypass the the upgrade inability by making a couple edits to your registry, not that I would want to encourage you to use Win 11 though.
People who switched to Linux, what are your experiences? What are some things that are better, worse, or impossible to do compared to windows?
>>720979510Don't ever fucking reply to me again.
>>720977223And people will still use it afterend of support because it is mostly meaningless at the individual customer level.
>>720977919>attemptingBrother you just have to plug the usb key in your pc press f2 when powering and click yes 7 times it's not dark magic.
>>720979510you are the colour of poop and many people like you eat poop
>>720979546all i care about are my games working, and they do
>>720977348It literally doesn't mean shit. Support ending means it'll stop getting as many windows updates which you shouldn't be running anyways. Windows 7/Vista stopped getting updates years ago and it still works just fine.
Why don't all Wins7tards just switch to Linux at this point
>your PC does not meet W11 requirements>check requirements>my PC meets themWhat is this shit?
>>720979517The existence of so many linux distros are due to basic tribalism in the first place and it often extend to their users.
>>720979540>Unless your processor is REALLY REALLY oldIt might be since it's a i7-7700K and that was a while ago.>not that I would want to encourage you to use Win 11 though.I'm only doing it because I don't know how fucked I'll get with any future compatability issues or anything.
>>720979647it leads to sloppy job and abandonware in mass too which is bad. you should only use the most established distros for a reason. also avoid fotm like endeavor, cachyos etc. no matter how amazing they might sound.
>>720979625Probably TPM on the bios
>>720979125>it doesn't support my hardwarego check what is exactly causing this statement. more often then not its a couple of options that are by default turned off in the BIOS. like secure boot you will be switching one way or another down the line as gaming platforms and games themselves will drop support for win10. like they did with win7
>>720977425Earlier today I saw a thread of a Win7 anon complaining Space Engineers stopped working for him after it updated, so probably something like that. Won't be able to play new games or games that are still being updated in about a year after support ends (that's how long it's been since Steam stopped supporting 7)
>>720979546Plenty of games still have to be fiddled with to work properly. Retards like to pretend you only need steam and proton to make every game work but it's far from the truth. Also, the more obscure the games you play, the less likely you are to find ready made fixes for it, which is also true for issues with linux and your hardware.
W11 is an insane spyware system man what the fuck, it's not better in any way from previous windows, if anything a lot worse performance wise
>>720977223I used W7 for a good while after it got dropped, only switched up when DX support stopped. To be desu I'm just psyching myself up to learn Mint or something, don't really want to become a Linux guy but I'm tired of this kikery.
>>720978193I don't think so. The only reason they "dropped" (not really) 7 was because of jewgle cucking them with Chrome
>>720977290This. Dual booting for about a two months now. Mostly just use mint now.Unironically installed it because of Pewdiepie's video. Easier than I thought. So far, proton just werks. Only vidya issue I'm sure that I'm going to encounter is modding, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to.
Will I be able to upgrade without losing my files and data? I didn't bother when installing 10 so I only have 1 disk with all my shit on it+system files, mostly don't want to lose my game saves and pirated shit.
>>720979847>Pewds>Bridge-crossingHeh
>>720977452A VIRUS JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!!! CALL THE FUCKING PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!
>>720979773I made the switch when this happened with 7. The only true hurdle to linux is the mental one of coming to terms with not running stuff with .exe. That's it.
>>720979546Do not use Debian. The packages are always outdatedDo not use Gnome. It sucksDo not use Manjaro. While stable now, it's model makes you more prone to issues down the line
just give us steamOS already
>>720977452AAAAHHHHHH A VIRUS JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!!! CALL THE FUCKING PRESIDENT!!!
>>720977274>using the latest win>b-but 11!
>>720978570>hackinglmao the real reason is data collection and profiling bruvStill not using linux. Just too many fucking issues when trying to do anything>b-but games run better!Not in my experience
I will stick with Windows 10.I am building a new system, I especially bought an old B650 mainboard with WIFI 6E, because the new B850 boards come with WIFI7 which is NOT supported by anything other than Win11.
i'm sitting on LTSC until it dies and then i'm rushing over to loonixenough is enough
>>720977764Yes https://massgrave.devBut free doesn't mean it's not shit.>>720978821That's because win 11 is actual fucking dogshit. Every second update broke something. Installing and learning Linux from scratch was unironically a less painful experience than the few months I used windows 11.
>>720979051tf i that
HA!I just found out that my system is compatible after all, I just needed to enable TPM 2.0 on the mobo.See you nerds later.
>>720979546My experience so far has been that games are either completely fucked by an anti-cheat/drm and there's nothing you can do about it or it isn't and it works with very little to no fuss (some more fuss was called for on an Nvidia card but switching to AMD made a lot of issues disappear). I haven't found any old/obscure/weird/pornographic games that proton can't run and I've stopped looking up non-multiplayer games on protonDB before I buy them because over the years I've started to assume that everything will justwerk and haven't been burned yet. Aside from that there's a bunch of features that I like and maybe a few things that were more convenient on windows, but the biggest thing is that I don't think I can go back to windows after having an OS that just does what I fucking tell it to do. It doesn't change settings unless I tell it to, it doesn't update unless I tell it to, it doesn't annoy me with notifications unless I tell it to. I can have shit the way I want it without having to jump through a bunch of hoops to wrestle back control over my machine, it just does that straight out of the box.
test
>>720978398Winboat doesn't do gpu passthrough as far as I know so it's not good for games, which he asked for
>>720978625still not a lot of time. most of us cant buy pc gaming rigs on a whim
>>720979374Actual demonic behaviour.
>>720977348>implying it already isn't
>>720979374>Paul Allen
>>720979546>betterOlder games work better, no need for additional dll files or patches.Dynamic sampling rate switching meaning it doesn't scale everything to one sample rate but switches to the one natively used by the audio file. Very niceDoesn't fucking bombard me with notifications.One command updates all applications instead of needing to launch them and update one by one.>worseHDR support on some games is nonexistent.Modding can be a pain at times.GE-Proton runs 99% of games but that 1% can be annoying to get working. Muramasa took me like an hour but that's an extreme example.>impossiblePlaying any vidya with kernel level drm but you shouldn't be installing and playing shit that tries to install what's basically a fucking virus on your computer.Also use something arch based since Mint has outdated packages and that means you're fucked if you're on an Nvidia GPU. AMD is more or less fine.
I used vista until 2018, I will be be fine.
>>720980307see you.... soooooonn......
>>720980726I used 7 until 2024, id still be on it too if the power supply wasn't so fucked
Well at least we have our GOG installers.
>>720979721Define "fiddled", like what do you typically have to do? I just want to figure out if I'm smart and patient enough for this.>>720980618>arch basedAnything newfag friendly?
>>720977223It's very simple. If they try to force me to use 11 I will install Linux. >b-but you can't play latest AAA dogshit with Linux!Don't care.
>>720980976You can though just not multiplayer dogshit
>windows tell me my specs are too shit for win 11 despite them being way above the requirementsfuck em
Are windows 7 fags dead yet? They made such a big show about not upgrading but now steam shows them as less than 1% of the user base.
I feel like this atlus thing is gonna kill us anyway so I'm sticking with 10
>>720980895>Define "fiddled"NTA but I assume shit like installing particular libraries or dll files. For Soukou Akki Muramasa I needed some particular dll files used for audio processing or the cutscenes would freeze the game. Most of those can be installed via winetricks/protontricks and it's one click but the difficult part is knowing which ones you need.>Anything newfag friendly?EndeavourOS or CachyOS. Cachy is better imo since it has a dedicated gaming package that just auto installs everything you need for playing vidya and is just easier to set up.
>>720977223steam isn't ending windows 10 support in a month, you fucking retard
>>720977397It means its a get out of blame free card. Unless you're a business or industry paying out the ass for continued tech questions and patches. Microsoft tells their support team working on 10 to stop and move on to 11 and other products still supported.
>>720977223How the hell am I the ONLY person in all of fucking 4chan who knows how to properly configure Windows 11 to work amazing well?O&OShutup10Revo UninstallerBleachbit if you fuck up and forget to use RevoWise Registry Cleaner to make you feel better about your registry (mostly pointless)Malwarebytes Firewall to have full control over what is sent over the internetShut off services you absolutely don't need. Manual for those you're not totally sure about (another thing not really needed unless you can't afford 32GB of ram which is like $60)Cntrl+Alt+Del and disable startup apps for fast startupsAnd make sure to go into control panel>system security>backup restore>create a system image and backup everything on external drive just in caseI have Win11 on three PCs (gaming, work, and HTPC) and all work amazingly well. The last two are on mini PC (beelink and Minis Forum) and both are amazingly fast. Even bought my 70yr old mom one for Xmas so she could take advantage of all the piracy movies/tv shows I get for her. She's had absolutely zero issues.Seriously? What's everyone's problem with Win11? Are you all just not smart enough to configure it?
I'm still on 8.1, never got hacked, encrypted or infected.Some newer AAA slop doesn't run but nothing I can't live without.
>>720979451this has been a problem for years now in the software industry. They hire Indian CEOs who hire Indian managers that hire nothing but Indians because the Jews at the top are too fucking cheap to just pay Americans. It's not even only about money, they won't get Eastern European developers because they're not subservient cucks like Indians are.
>>720977223I LITERALLY upgraded to Windows 11 last night even though my CPU isn’t supported by it. How did I do this? Why did I do this? Because I have an LLM to help me do what I want when I want and no one can stop me.
>>720978974>>720980275>LTSCHow do I install it anons?
>>720981356>Am I the only one dumb enough to keep using Microsoft products?Yes, apparently.
>>720978448literal retard/kikrojeetsoft shill
>>720981356dont forgot open shell
>>720981452You go to the /win/ general on /g/ and get it from there.
>>720981356>wintrannies need to tinker more than linuxchads nowLOL
>>720981452>download iso of ltsc version in the language you want>burn to a usb drive>install>activate with the massgrave scriptAs shrimple as that
I had w7 years and years after it was "dead" I will do the same with w10
>>720977994You are retarded. Then again, we are on /v/.
>>720981528>>720981552Thanks but is there a vid somewhere of this and is there a risk of microcock revoking my activation.
>>720981118>first they came for the windows 7 users>i said nothing because i was a windows 10 user
>>720977397Slowly, things will stop working with the system as new protocols and such are introduced and migrated to.I was on Win7 up until a few months ago, and am only switching off because Steam changed compression algorithms causing "corrupted download" and "content unavailable" errors on downloads/updates, even if the game itself worked previously.Prior to that, something in a lot of websites would crash the chromium based browser I was using, but not Firefox.Trying out Linux, and usually decent documentation about getting a game to run, if its older/standalone. Steam does a lot of heavy lifting if its on there, but eh.Other option is to figure out how to hack things into the OS you prefer, though that requires a degree of technically knowledge and willingness to risk bricking things.
https://github.com/abbodi1406/ConsumerESUDownload this script, run it as admin, and enjoy an additional year of Windows 10. Avoiding Linux couldn't be any easier.
>>720981356So, how many hidden connections still going the microsoft can you find with wireshark despite all that?
>>720979259NTA but yes :(
>>720977223Oh no... anyways
I'm officially moving to Linux Mint. I've had enough of the dang malarkey.
Reminder that Steam will soon force people to "upgrade" because most of their devs are Indians, and Indians love forcing people to use the next windows OS.
>>720981751steam shills are pajeets confirmed
>Picture of Bill GatesCoincidently this schizo shit just showed up on my TwitterSure drives people crazy for being a philanthropist
>>720981751I hate them so much
>>720981795>>720981751>>720981783It's fake, you retards. Valve does not have a Co-CEO for starters.
>>720981751>forcing people to use the next windows OSThey're basically the biggest gaming company pushing for Linux, though? If you're too retarded to install Linux that's on you, you can't expect Valve to support a deprecated OS just because you're a retard.
>JUST USE LINUXIf it's not simply plug and play I don't want it.>BUT IT'S GOODI will press the go button and watch my computer go.I will not write a coding treatis to my computer begging it to please go.My computer is my slave, I do not ask its permission, it asks mine.Imagine taking orders from your computer like a linuxfag.They should make a genre of porn featuring linux users being fucked by their computer, called Linuxploitation.And then shoot everyone who uses linux in Linuxecution videos.
>switch to an even worse os that is vibe coded by pajeetsno
>>720981593It's just a basic iso install, you put it on a usb stick that's big enough with rufus and it's a normal windows install from there as long as you know how to access your bios and boot from a usb.And no, since you have an activation script there as well.Of course it'll wipe your hard drive, you can't just upgrade from another edition like a switch flip.
I'm still on Windows 7, unironically let me guess you need more
>>720981843Oh wow I love indians now
>IoT LTSC
>>720981794I just don't know why Bill Gates drives this many schizos up the wall like that.They can't be all Linuxfags
>>720981794>LE MARK OF THE BEASThow do they fall for it every single time? like they literally claim everything is going to be the mark
>>720981876>activation scriptSo you activate the script after you install it correct.
>>720977223False: there is the LTSC version.
>>720981919>if you don't believe meme outrage then you must love indiansI hope you and every indian are smashed into a still living ball of flesh and fecal matter, with you buried to the very depths of the delhi-doodoo-demiurge.
>>720981938you can't play BF6 on that
>>720981907Genuine question, how many hoops do you have to go through to make 64bits only programs, games or other wise, work?
>>720979958They can't because nvidia still has no driver.
>>720982020
>>720977657Get the IoT Enterprise LTSC edition, which lasts until 2032.
>>720982058oh i forgot you faggot dont play games, my bad
>>720981981Yes, you'll just have the usual watermark message saying you didn't activate windows in the bottom right of the screen until you do.
>>720981971Because we don't cut the tongues out of the people who get it wrong.I guarantee that if we started ripping the tongues out of false-prophets grifters would be much less eager to prophecise doomsday.
>>720981356youre just a much bigger sheep than the average person
>>720981971The video is so fucking funny as well, it shows a mockup of a glowing smartphone display on someone's arm and then says "LOOKS JUST LIKE THIS"... takes a real special kind of guy
>>720982058>-ACK
>>720982020>can't play multiplayer sloppaIt's over
>>720982020Why? If it's a missing component or library, it can be surely installed.
>>720982065LINK?!
>>720977223I switch to W11 once it stops to be shitMy gf has it in her laptop and runs like an absolute shit and the taskbar is somehow worse than 8 and early 10 combined
>>720982152Zelda.
>>720982106You sure these scripts are safe I have tired LTSC in a VM before and its like you said with "activate windows in the bottom right " with a timer.
>>720982081>Thinks AAA slop are the only games that existYou deserve to get assfucked by microsoft
>>720982139ltsc is going to be useless in 1-2 years
>>720982139>EAIts ok, we were all young once.We all enjoyed the slop at some point.
>>720977223So what, is Steam just gonna stop working on Windows 10 in a month?Surely they wouldn't be that retarded
>>720977397no updatesevery now and then, 10 will require updating and if you take too long (half a day), your pc starts running slower to force you restart and the update forces itselfif you want to keep using 10, you'll have to reinstall every 3 months which is a pain
>>720982261i was playing Battlefield before you were born faggot
>>720982274Of course not, why do I have to share a board with people with sub 100 IQ
>>720982152aHR0cHM6Ly9tYXNzZ3JhdmUuZGV2Lw==
>>720982237It just tricks the windows servers into giving you a valid license, not a deal with the devil asking for your immortal soul.
>>720982308Then what's the big deal bucko? Why should I care about Windows 10 support ending?
You guys update shitdows? Like literally you have auto update running 24/7?It's the first thing i turn down via scripts when reinstalling
>>720982364You shouldn't and you even having to ask is why I know you're sub-100
>>720982120Giving people a platform to voice their thoughts and opinions was a noble endeavor until it became evident that the most highly motivated opinions are those of the mentally ill.
>>720982396Then why is there a thread if this is all a big nothingburger? Huh smart guy?
when is SteamOS going mainstream? please Gabe save us
>>720981870>My computer is my slave, I do not ask its permission, it asks mine. The opposite of that is literally what happens with Windows you retard. It does so much shit you don't want it to without asking.
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>>720982360Good to know thanks, one more thing I heard you can buy licenses as well is that more safe
>>720978945this is definitely happening, but when? when will steam drop support for windows 10? in three years?
>>720977541Literally just don't execute random exe files and you'll be fine 99% of the time. Plus you're most likely under CGNAT so the only way to get infected is if you're dumb.
>>720982453Just in case you are an actual dummy, it’s because this board is full of very, very stupid people.
>>720982587kek fair enough
Reminder TPM is a killswitch
It's simple, if games/platforms do not have backward compatibility like supporting W10, then they will lose audience and profit.If you give in to their demands and install W11 and whatever newest slop, YOU are the problem.
>>720977410it means you upgrade now goy
>>720981596I'll just move onto W11. If 12 turns out to be turboshit then I'll switch to Linux. I'm not retarded like 7fags lol
LTSC
I am so old I remember when people didn't want to leave Windows XP. Eventually they did. History repeat itself.
>>720982551I dunno if you can buy an enterprise iot ltsc license as an individual customer. Pretty sure you are more likely to get scammed that way if you get it from shady websites.
>>720977223The EU should force Microsoft to remove hardware requirements for Windows 11, especially the TPM 2.0 requirement, because Microsoft is about to create tons of e-waste
>>720979873>>720979847>what a fucking ....good times...
Steam is incredibly evil and it's been frustrating me for many years to see so many posters here actually defend it. If you think Steam is a good platform then you are low IQ.
>>720982708Inertia is what it is.Its why Windows remains the most common OS despite everyone hating it more and more.It comes preinstalled on practically every system sold.
>>720977223I used some script on g to activate windows 10, what will happen if I accept the built in upgrade to 11?
>>720982708It just continues to prove that unchecked capitalism always lead to tech monopolies and consumers don't hold much power at all, because they are sheeple, by design.They love to be told what to think, what to consume, what to do.
>>720982856>upgrade>to 11
>>720982738Is there any chance that Microsoft will deactivate your instance if they see you activated it "fraudulently" by using scripts or buying third party keys.
i'm on windows 7
>>720977223>windows 10 ending>dont want to "upgrade" to spyware>not going to linux>muh viruses on windows 10>stream my phone with a vpn on my desktopInternet by proxy. Functionally a demarcation point.
>>720982953Yes and they'll send the UN around as well
>>720982708At the same time, microsoft is pushing their new windows versions far more than they did 20 years ago.
>>720982274It worked on 7 for over a year, then it started completely freezing your computer when if you opened the store
>>720983015AI bubbles don't pay for themselves you knowWell I guess they doGive them money
>>720982803how is it Steam's fault that MS is ending Windows 10 support?
>>720983015and Steam is phasing out OSes faster than they ever did before. This is becoming a habit. Pretty soon Steam will require you to update to a new Windows version as often as Apple forces people to update their iPhones. Pure. Greed. An unstoppable monopoly.
>>720982708Vista was garbage so people had reasons to sit on XP but 7 was straight upgrade. 8 was weird experiment when MS genuinely thought that touch screens and tablets are the future, 8.1 was attempt at fix this but barely worked. Win10 was once again straight upgrade and worked fine for quite long time.Win11 is garbage and downgrade in many aspects so it's natural people don't want to switch. Win12 will be even worse since MS have absolutely no idea why people dislike Win11 and refuse to listen (as evidenced by how they keep trying to push Recall, now in "improver and safer" version while people quite vocally inform them how sole idea of taking screenshots of people desktops is at its core something fundamentally wrong) while still riding on AI bubble and desperately trying to capitalize on it somehow. Latest investors, God forgive me for using this word, slop is about "truly personalized system" so they try to shove AI everywhere. Hell, one of their guys even claim that in next 5 years people won't be using keyboard and mouse anymore and only mic to tell AI assistants what they want to do. It's all investors bullshit but they genuinely have no idea what direction to take.
>>720982953I don't think I've ever used a non pirated version of windows since maybe windows 98 and I've never had a problem.
>>720982708Normies will, but the way windows 11 is changes the variables this time. Its malware at this point with copilot spying on you
>>720982765So far EU forced MS to NOT include various functions by default or at least have then as "opt-in" instead of "always on".
>>720983089Steam only pushed away 32bit os, they are not exactly putting a gun to your head to move from windows 8 or 10.
>>720983103Yeah I kinda doubt that care that much and its kinda hard to prove anyways.
>>720983089nigger what the fuck are you talking about, Steam still works even on Windows 7
Steam doesn't have a monopolyYou can still pirate games>b-but what about my epic chungus live service games??you deserve everything bad that happens to you
>>720980976you can play the latest AAA dogshit, actually, it's mostly online only competitive multiplayer games that use a specific kind of anticheat that will never work
>>720982665You're already moving on to turboshit so next you'll just say "if W13 is ultrashit then I'll just move to Linux"
>>720982885The root cause is public companies. They serve the greed of a collective and not the morals of an individual. If I became king, I'd outlaw public companies on day one.
>>720983258No it doesn't
comprehensive tutorial on how to proton or use wine?
>>7209832731.Fitgirl repack site is dead, here in EU at least2.More and more games are on Denuvo, no more cracks
>>720977223fake news as usual
>>720982237The scripts are open source.
>>720983369it literally does you dumb faggotit just gives a stupid warning that you should update windows and everything works fine
>>720977223It's so painfully easy to do a debloated install of Windows 11, your Windows 10 key even gives you 11 for free.If you guys weren't so painfully lazy and dumb you would have made the switch already.
>>720983372>ProtonAdd game to steam, click on settings->compatibility->Choose a proton version, done.>WINEHow deep of a rabbit hole do you want to go down in?
>>720983443No. It doesn't.
>>720982976>demarcationMent to say Demiliterized Zone. Anyways, its a buffer zone.Feels cyberpunk because youre using analog hardware to buffer your safety than digital software.There might be a buisness for devices like these. Something more dedicated as a shield.
>>720983209Well, windows makes most of its money from business deals, majority adoption and selling individual users data. For that last one, they don't need you to have a legit copy of windows anyway.
>>720983372Install LutrisAdd game to Lutris with Proton as wine versionPlay game
>>720983372100% honest, ask chatgpt, or whatever other llm you prefer.
>>720983491kill yourself retardhttps://youtu.be/coC-hseuK4I
>>720977425It makes mustard gas.
Prolly just gunna try one of the linux varieties Recc for retards that just wanna play game?
>>720983570that's how I do it,you also need steam to get proton, in my experience
>>720983372>Proton>install protonup-qt>use it to install newest ge-proton>set it in the game settings on steam to use itDone. Works with lutris as well. Ge is better than stock proton. If you want stock then you can download the newest version directly through steam in game compatibility settings.>Wine>download wine-staging>use the wine command to use it with appsDone. And remember to download winetricks and protontricks as well.
>>720983683ubuntu or mint.
>>720983489for wine i dont understand why it gives me an entire list of things to do when i just want to run an exe
Does support ending actually matter literally at all? I only switched from win7 like 3 years ago
>>720983683CachyOS
>>720983683MacOS
>>720983639>youtube scam video with fake engagementKill yourself retard. I'm literally on Win7 right now. It doesn't work.
>>720983762wine + .exe name in terminal. That's how you use it. If it gives you a list you either launched winetricks instead or launched the settings instead.
>>720983792Not really.
>>720983862are you tech illitarate? Download and install Steam from Valve's websiteAfter installing, let Steam download and install the required files. You will later see an error saying "Steam is no longer supported on your operating system version"Navigate to Steam install directory (default location: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam")Delete all files in the "package" content folderRun Steam again, and the client should be able to download the proper Windows 7 client.And that's it! Login to your account, and it should now work!
>>720983762if you have wine installed you can double click an exe and it will run it, if it's an installer it will let you install itthis may well be enough to install most GoG games, but you're eventually going to need to learn more to get some games working
>>720983683mintmeme distros tend to breakubuntu is just mint but worse
>>720982528
>>720977657This seems to be the easiest and most convenient method and Im thinking about doing this but how do you know its actually gonna work for 3 years? Like cant they detect that you do this (especially if you do it with a normal w10 Pro version since the extended 3 years are for intended for enterprise) with MAS and then interfer somehow?
>>720983929Cool thanks
Nope, not moving from Win 7
>>720983862>youtube scam video with fake engagementis /v/ filled with literal schizophrenic people?
>>720977223How do we get third-worlders to start using Linux?
>>720979374He was right, you know.
>>720984314Alas, they are too retarded for it.
>>720983351Okay 7fag.
>>720983372>Enable in steam settings>Download game>Click play
>>720984314>Install Linux>there isn't a language option for my native language, have to use English.>Have problem with linux>Documentation is all in English>Documentation sucks ass>Go to find a community to find help with the problem>Communities only exist in and communicate in English>Attempt to translate my question into English>Get called ESL>Get called retarded>Get told it works on my machine>Get told to read the documentation that's in a language I don't speak>Get told to RTFM that's not written in my languagevs>Install windows>selective my native language>Have problem with windows>Microsoft offers support in my language>Get my problem resolved
>>720984540nice trick, nothing is that simple on Troonix
>>720984653Brave to admit you're retarded, even anonymously
>>720983907>>720984024yea i see now it's because i use mingalaxy to install and play gog installers where only some work and others crash out with an errori found i could click a button that said "winetricks" and that's where im getting the list i mentioned before im confused what to do with that list
>>720984673https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=287310
>>720977223windows 11 is shit
>>720984673you could find literally 50000 of these threadshttps://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=421700
>>720984648I'm sorry you can't speak english, Rajeesh. Please redeem the Windows 11, saar.
>>720981876>put it on a usb stick>Of course it'll wipe your hard drivelol just open it in windows explorer and you won't have your drive wiped
I'm going to just stay on 10 until Steam stops working for it, just like I did with 7. Literally nothing happened. All the fearmongering was for nothing. I still have a secondary PC that runs 7 and it works completely fine.
How can normalfags even tolerate this shit?
Embrace Penguin.
>>720977651That would be useful if it remembered the tabs when you closed it but as it is, it's relatively useless. Meanwhile tabs have been a default feature on Linux file managers for over a decade.
>>720984795Windows is shit
>>720977223>7 monthsloling in IoT Enterprise
>>720977223"support" doesnt even mean anything though. Oh no theres not gonna be more completely pointless updates. Other than that theres a sea of pearl clutching idiots insisting you WILL get a million viruses if you stay on it "unsupported" and I call those people happy idiots.
>>720982564>Plus you're most likely under CGNATImagine having such a shitty ISP.
>>720982564malware and ransomware do use exe files since like 2015 you tech illiterate faggot
>>720985831This. It's the thinking man's choice.
>>720986402That's what he said?
For such a big monopoly company Microshit is... the government should force free ESU updates for the 3 year program. >but that's commu-Ok then time to get broken up by antitrust.
>>720984314If you use Linux you probably speak english as well even if you're a third-worldert. third-worlder using Linux in english
>>720982020>you won't be able use kernel stuffWhich is a good thing.
>>720986774Imagine speaking English and not American like Jesus did.
>>720984648To be fair, you don't belong on the internet if you can't read simple english.>Microsoft offers support in my languageMicrosoft can't even offer support in english anymore.
>>720985284You aren't actually getting the enterprise iot ltsc version if you do that, it's just a coat of paint over your normal windows install pretending to be ltsc. You need a full reinstall for all the features.
I'll only switch to windows 11 when software dependency requirements catch on.By then windows 11 will be hopefully less cancerous.
>>720977223Don't care I'm not switching. You ALWAYS skip one version of Windows.They go tolerable > bad > tolerable > bad
>>720982081>only plays spastic zoomer AAA slop like BF6
>>720987202>You need a full reinstall for all the features.it says it's windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSCand I didn't want a full reinstall to miss out on features I already have
>>720977223Joke's on you. I'm still using Windows 98 with LiteStep.
>>720977397>>720977512So it's a tactic to cause widespread panic, as in, making people think that the system will suddenly shut down?
>>720977348>>720977397It means absolutely fucking nothing. It's pretty much corporations trying to force you to switch to the newer thing, with more built-int spyware, telemetry and other shit.You can still use windows 7 and be completely fine. You will never get "hacked". If someone gains access to your account that's always because of a database leak which has nothing ot do with your own computer. And no, even the newest, freshest system with the most recent updates won't protect your PC if you go to a scammer website, download shit from there and then run it. No system is going to protect from stupidity.I am infuriated by niggers who know nothing about computers and buy into this whole "YOU'RE LE VULNERABLE!!! UPDATE NOW!!!" pile of bullshit. The only disadvantage of running an older system is that some developers might artificially gate their games behind windows updates, for example Wo Long does not work under some LTSC systems. But that's literally it. The probability of getting a virus will not be higher with an older, unupdated system.
>>720983862>NOOOOO IT DOESNT WORK BECAUSE I SAY SOOOOO
>>720987515>Mon Oct 18Try posting a real screenshot you LARPing faggot
>>720977223I'm still on Windows 7.
>>720977223i would not have minded but they went out of their way to make everything just worse for no reason i dont know what i will do probably beat my games that protondb says dont run well on linux and then switch after
>>720987613This, it's even worst when you realize that even supposed competent "coder" still continue to push that narrative of "if you use a depreciated OS you will get infected".I have seen emulators dev literally saying that I shouldn't connect to the internet if I'm still on Windows 7.... fucking hell
I have more and more problems with Win10 every month. I don't know if it's planned obsolescence or just that it's shittily made. Either way I'm taking this as a good moment to go back to Linux.
>>720987895protondb isn't very reliable you'd be better off installing it on another drive/dual boot, setting it up properly and seeing what works
>>720987735based, don't give them an inch
>>720987613This. So much this.
>>720977315He's autistic, like actually on the spectrum, so he lacks a theory of mind. Combine that with his vast resources and he's capable of doing quite a lot of damage.
>>720982027in most cases none at all. the only real problem is chrome.some AAA-slop probably doesn't run, but when was something AAA worth playing last release? 2015?
>>720977315freemason, also look up the maxwell family
>>720978625>Unless its something like SMB which was a massive pwn across FIVE (5) Windows versions that MS had to patch it.
>>720977315https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK6SS8CXYZo
>>720977871>messes with shit>He doesn't knowWindows 10 was the start of that, retard-kun. Hell, even 8 would pull that bullshit.
>>720977919If you're not tech literate, then downgrading to Win10 isn't worth it.
Based Bill Gates being evil and having a fake “charity” foundation that donates trillions to moving niggers, sandniggers and Mexicans to white countries under the pretense of (((humanitarian aid))) with the help of Chinese and Israeli NGOs
>>720978692...At the same time...
>>720988893Didn't they update windows XP for the first time in like 30 years because of it? Shit was wild.
>>720981438Nobody's been running 32-bit CPUs since Windows XP in the 2000's, Grandpa.
>>720978705>>720979067Do you need to be logged into a microsoft account to do that? Or just how do you do that, wouldnt mind having an extra year to play with.
>>720978898that is because 11 has a ton of shit that eats a ton of ram, there is Slim 11 that reduces the OS ram use down to 840mb10 also eats a ton of ram
>>720989321Yeah. Being fair, SMB is/was used across like all OS's.
>>720988950Kek
I still remember shitting on people who still using win7 during the cough.
I'm still on Win7.
>>720984109I've been pirating enterprise since I was a kid. They do not care.
>>720977223Linux doesn't have this problem
>>720977746I have not gotten a legitimate windows defender pop-up in 5+ years and I download several porn games a week
>>720977223>hurr we need kernel level support for our latest spywareIt still runs fine on Windows 7 roflmao
>>720982139>epic games>2 (two) bf games>intel i9this is just....sad
>>720977223> support ends> system continues workingI don't understand what the problem is. Isn't /v/ fine with disabling windows updates anyway?
>>720982139Using LTSC Windows is completely retarded. "Normal" software has never supported this. This is only for enterprises running software like Primavera and want a fully stable system.
>>720982152HE COME TO TOWN
>>720982285Even assuming you started with 1942 that would still be 10 years after I was born and that just means you have had shit taste for 20 years
>>720990680HE COME TO SAVE
but Win 10 will have updates till 2032... what the fuck is this fake news shit and why does this thread believe OP even if he didnt provide any sourcethis is some facebook boomer fake news tier shit where boomers start complaining to fake articles
>>720991201Only ltsc is getting extremes out that long
Just upgraded to 11 with keeping my files option, took like 30 min to suck in all the shit from the usb and after restart it was done, honestly just feels like UI got a paintjob, doesn't feel like anything new, circumcised right click menu is a bit annoying,didn't even have to disable all the retard spyware shit because my settings stayed from 10
>>720991157THE PRINCESS ZELDA
>>720991201only if you have the Enterprise LTSC edition. these aren't available generally to the public.so yeah, you will need to update to 11 if you want security updates. i don't know why you all dislike 11 so much. it's not much different than 10. turn on TPM on your fucking mobo and shutup already.
I use Win 11 for my workstation, and honestly doesn't feel that bad. I can customize it to look like Win 10 and use it fine.I'd have no problem updating my personal PC if it weren't for no local account support. I don't want to create a microsoft account for my PC and i don't like that i'm forced to.
>>720991754>if you want security updates.the only point of the LTSC is to keep getting security updates without touching anything else.
Can Linux use pirated Arobe software? If it can I might make the switch.
>>720991754Security updates are a scam unless you are a retarded turd worlder downloading the first game after searching>Free game download
>>720991265Don't ever fucking reply to me again.
>>720985831>Embrace Penguin.But then not all of my proprietary software will work on it
>>720992050>what are backdoors or exploits?Retard
Been playing on arch Linux for about 8 months now and have no complains. A couple of MMOs I play run better than on windows even
A Router with a firewall and common sense (don't download viruses)Is all you need to be perfectly safe on any old Windows version. I have XP still on one of my computers
>>720977348I have automatic updates disabled and the last time I manually updated was 2 years ago.
>>720977223Im using win 10 interprise
>muh Linux!God, you motherfuckers are so pathetic.
>>720993024Calm down, Rajeesh
>>720992306>what are backdoors or exploits?Extremely rare even on most outdated OS. XP was one major exception with the RPC protocol but even that was patched. People are far more likely to be exploited using outdated software than an outdated OS so long as you're behind a router/firewall.
>>720984424He whined about his over valued labor not being seen as being the same worth as he saw it.
>>720989832Brother
So if I just stay with windows 10, are there any precautions I should take to protect my computer? I don't go to sketchy sites and don't click on sketchy links, I use adblocker, and antivirus.
>>720987961At least the industry people have the excuse of getting paid to parrot that nonsense.
don't you simply copy paste a command into powershell to enable ESU?
>>720993087That’s fine bloody. You can stay on your infierior Os that can only run Club Penguin while the rest of the world has moved on to the superior model that is windows 11. There is nothing that windows cannot do that Linux can and that is. Proven fact.
>>720990229You probably aren't a total moron in how you approach said downloads anon. Remember how dumb the average person is and then remember they become even dumber online.
>>720978570Speak for yourself. Hackers have been after my hot bod for years.
i didnt leave windows 7 until i was physically forced to when installing drivers for an oculus rift. i wont leave windows10 until i am forced to
>>720993376The internet's pretty safe these days, it's not the early 2000s where your kids were downloading exes off LimeWire thinking it was music. Get a decent antivirus solution and that'll handle the worst of it, the rest is common sense opsec.
>>720993630Hot rods inTel Aviv
>>720981609>Steam changed compression algorithms causing "corrupted download" and "content unavailable" errors on downloads/updatesYou use Steam depot downloader to bypass that.
>>720984648Windows works when you first install it then starts to crap out after enough updatesLinux works after you spend 1000+ hours learning the in and outs of not just its OS but the nature and functions of every part of a computer from the BIOS to hardware to drivers etc. Linux has the highest skill ceiling. Great for those with the time but I just wanna install steam and play some damn TF2 for fuck sakes. Doesn't help the community is pretty hostile to newcomers. I get gatekeeping but its shocking how they want linux to be mainstream while also prevent it from achieving such status.
>>720983372Just install windows 11
>>720994665m$ jews won't let me
>>720994005Imo the problem with Linux is that using it your hobby quickly becomes Linux itself, which is a fine hobby to have but it sucks if you wanted to do anything else.Setting up basic web browsing machine is easy but who the fuck even has a desktop for it now and driver support for laptops is meh. Just buy your grandma a tablet and save yourself the effort.If you want to do any "productivity" you'll quickly discover that FOSS ones are just worse and have format compatibility issues and commercial ones don't run on it, gaming still sucks and is way too much effort. You can't just change the OS, you'll have to move top the whole bubble and it will be hard to interact with people outside of it.There's just no good use case for linux desktop outside of some kinds of software development, but even then, a lot of more specific tools can still be windows only or your users are windows anyway.
>>720977541Both. This won't happen overnight, but eventually windows 10 will be so comprised pulling up a website will infect your computer. https://youtu.be/6uSVVCmOH5w?si=5BRVVbCgnrzqzYPT
>>720993872Thanks for the tip. Will give it a look.About half migrated to the linux distro I picked, and will still need to run it somewhat for shit that refuses to launch on Win7.
>>720993024>>muh Linux!>God, you motherfuckers are so pathetic.This faggoty normgroid "just be normal" seethe is selling me on Linux desu.
>>720979403thank god i'm not a normie imagine unironically playing any of that trash
>>720995787>disables all security features>claims it is unsafe and compromisedCome on now
>>720979403Your list makes the troons seem sane if they're not playing the listed games.
>>720996854>secureboot is a security feature>Tpm is a security feature>You only got viruses because you disabled them
>>720995787He literally went out of his way to make XP vulnerable, the digital equivalent of spreading his asscheeks and moaning provacatively in a prison shower room.
Win10 asks me to download w11 and install it, is it really safe to do so? I remember you needed to format the HDD in order for the new OS to be installed
>>720981438welp it's odd anyone run 32bit win10 at this point. Like generally most people run win10 with 8gb or more and 32bit only handles 4gb, no?
>>720997726Win10 is a 64bit OS, it just has a mode that allows it to run 32 programs. 32bit OSs are anything prior to Win7
>>720978898>tabs in Explorer is awful ideaThat's about the only thing 11 improved over 10, but it's still shit though because the tabs close every time you close explorer. Maybe by windows 20 they'll manage to make the tabs persistent like Linux file managers have had for decades.
>>720977290>Got a killer new rig a couple months ago.>TFW I fucked myself due to the hardware being too new to use Linux Mint.>The LTS Channel Mint uses won't update to the new kernel that supports my new hardware until 2026-27, and I've read that even then Mint isn't planning to have a kernel upgrade until 2028-29.I'm gonna try using something called RevisionOS + using suspicious CMD commands to activate Win10 extended support licenses. Wish me luck bros. ;_;
>>720997509No it's malware.
>>720977223how do you make windows 11 usable without goytrackers and shit
>>720977223>taking survey numbers at face valuethe actual figure is much higher than 43%
>>720999429>MintNGMI. Should've used a cutting edge distro instead. Good luck though
I install Linux to tinker, fuck around and eventually go back to Winblows.
>>720996947NOOOOOO GOY BAD GOY BAD GOOOOOY. YOU FUCKING ANTI-SEMITE. we'll hunt you down for disabling secure boot and TPM DRN
>>720980012>>720987239dead internet theory? second time i've seen this today
>>720977290Mint sucks. install Fedora, NOW!
>>720977348I haven't updated Windows 10 after nuking all of the bloatware and spyware for three years. Literally just don't be retarded and backup your system no matter what you're using (you won't).
>>720997509it literally saves your files, I just upgraded today, nothing happened outside of it creating a windows.old folder that was like 30gigs, I just deleted it
>>720999951Microjeet bots.
>>720977315He's not. The bill and melinda gates foundation have done a colossal amount of work supporting shithole communities and stuff. Also they sponsor kurzgesagt episodes often which is very based
>>721000098didn't this one had some weird fuckass fleshboot creation that made it unusable before formatting it again with their own software
>install Windows 11 IoT 4 months ago after I upgraded to a 9800X3D >quite literally 0 unfixable problems since thenI genuinely have no idea what people are doing when they say they have problems every update.>works on my machineYeah, it literally does. I guess my only real complaint is that HDR is dogshit and Windows STILL doesn't have a robust support for multi monitors.
>>720997726 Only reason someone’s still on 32bit Win10 in 2025 is 'cause they’re either running legacy office PCs that haven't been upgraded since Obama was in office, or they’re masochists trying to get old-ass games running on native hardware. Nobody sane is booting a 32bit OS unless they're chaining together 2GB sticks in a toaster build or resurrecting a Netbook from 2009.
>>720995787Windows XP was Swiss Cheese when it came to security practices. Not a good argument. I'd be more impressed if 7 is pwned in minutes as that's the one where they started to try to add security past UAC to it.
>>720996947>SecureBootDoesn't do shit, BTW:
>>721000143i hate this part of the future
>>720977223>>720977315>people still blame bill despite having no involvement for over 10 years with windows.>b-b-but he's on the boardHe hasn't been for nearly half a decade and his involvement was mainly to lead Azure
>>721000440That's because IOT LTSC is the least shitty win 11 version since it has less bloatware. With regular 11 you have to debloat or it's borderline unusable.
>>720977223you can get the extra one year updates with simple script. after that i am going to switch to arch
>>721000787I wish we would've gotten the cool parts of cyberpunk like augments and not just the shitty parts like information control.>chat control and id verification incomingIt's ogre
>>720977223Remember when Microsoft said Win10 was going to be their last operating system? That they wouldn't need to keep making more? I do. And I took them at their word.
Is this the great toaster purge? is the next hardware survey going to exclude all the non-11 PCs?
>>720977871>I'd unironically pay an annual fee to keep w10 updated at this point.Anon there are still people on w7 who are perfectly fine. And see >>720982065
80% expecting Windows to become subscription based
huh, it said i enroll in the extended updates for free. neat. ill ignore this until next september.
>>720977223As long as Steam supports Win 10 what’s the problem?
>>720977223do it faggot"oh no more updates"thank fucking god fuck your updatesfuck your nexon ass cash shop that doesn't belong baked into a western white man operating system
>>721001001time to make a LAN party
>>720991954Unless MS has stopped this in the past few months: Shift+F10->"start ms-cxh:localonly"
>>720992303Not the penguins problem.
What's the deal with these shills?
Okay, but how many are still on Windows 7?
>>721000821That's like saying single mother is a good dating prospect because she has only one nigger mutt kids and the rest have half a dozen
the funniest thing people dont realize is that windows DEFENDER will still support windows 10 for another like 5 years who gives a fuck about any other updates? what do i need them to update my fucking taskbar with YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT SERIES OF ISLANDS IN THE PACIFIC THIS IS :O !!!!!!fuck off
>>721001812I would say me too but i'm slowly in the process of migrating to linux because of the new corrupt download shit and coping with steamcmd to try downloading through is just a step too far.
>>720978898And now they're on /v/ begging us to "upgrade". Awfully suspicious.
>>720984314Are you retarded? English isn't my first language, but I still default to it on everything, from BIOS to software. I use a bunch of software that doesn't have any translations at all - having a mix of languages in a system is obnoxious as fuck and looks awful aesthetics-wise.Googling for problems is easier in English, documentation is written in English first and foremost, etc.
>>721001582Can you do this in a laptop with Win10 pre installed?
>>720981356Meanwhile>Install Linux>jus twerks
>>721000237Their foundation promotes genital mutilation (circumcision) in Africa to lower HIV rates, which is proven useless.
>>721002059Yeah, this. Anyone savvy enough to use linux is going to know enough english and it's easier to find support when you don't have to translate the error codes back to get help.
>>721002059>>721002438german is good as well. at least it used to be
>>721001812oh shit son you got 0 days left
>>721001938Sir you must install the windows 11 i beg of you
i don't feel like upgrading, it's such a hassle.
>>720977223Mine expires 2032
>>720977425new games use windows11.dll instead of windows10.dll so you can't launch thembrowsers require new windows, websites require new browsers, so websites starts to breakvirus and shit is not a thingmaybe some shitty performance issues that won't be fixed
>>720977402This. With Windows 7 it happened in the first week after support ended, and was such a huge problem due to all the systems still out there that hadn't updated to a supported OS yet - that MS had to cave and make updates available to solve the issue, regardless.This is probably why they opened up extended support to consumers on Windows 10. Not from the good of their hearts, but just so they can claim "yeah; if you follow these guidelines you can have your updates - so we're not obliged to give them to you for free outside of established protocol and channels. Or obliged to contain the situation. You all have your solution. Use it."Which basically means tying yourself to a MS account and Azure usage. The one thing most Windows 10 holdouts specifically DON'T want to do. I.e. MS knows EXACTLY what it's doing here to maximize their gains from how this whole ordeal will -- note: WILL, with near-certainty -- play out.
>>721002003You vill use ze spyware and you VILL like it
>>720977223Why do people still think Bill Gates is the head of Microsoft? It's been over 20 years now since he stepped down, and it's some fucking pajeet that's running the company like his native streets.
>>720977223... so does dual boot
>>720981427Is that pre-gyaru Aika?
>>721001812Would be nice if W10 ending meant I could go back to W7 but it just means even less support.
>>720977315>Why are wealthy people so evil?why is water wet?
>>720977223The latest w10 update made my pc start hanging and blue screening out of nowhere. I'm almost certain they have a killswitch set up for every w10 user to brick their PC and force them to change operating systems. They cant actually expect anyone to voluntarily switch to the new botnet OS otherwise.
>>720999951>>721000143>>721000787No, 4cuck was giving me weird ass connection problems and apparently it sent my post twice at different times
>>721000129Aight
>>720979403This is reverse psychology, right?
>>721007307I had a similar problem 8 hours agoIt seemed like literally no one was posting for hours anything
>>720982020So you're saying I'm going to miss all of the quadruple A releases?
>>720994665>just go gay
>>720981356>wincucks are willing to jump through all these hoops and then cry that Linux is too complicated
>>720977290I also did this recently when I heard the news about Microsoft's advertisement plans and the windows 11 bloat. I'm also taking Networking courses at school right now and my teacher kinda schooled me on Linux Mint. Problem solved.
Is there anyway to make windows 11 not run like shit?