Do all male hedgehogs look the same to Amy?
Is that reply real? Lmao
>>721018457Kek
>>721018457Female hedgehogs are colorblind
>>721018457She only has eyes for human men.
>>721018457it's an inside joke. they think if they joke about three different characters being a recolour of each other but using the same models, the public will forget how scummy and creativity barren the franchise has become
Amy took a full 8 seconds to realize Shadow isn't Sonic, she is extremely dumb
>>721018457Amy, thats RACIST!
>>721018910No, its a reference of how Amy would confuse any new hedgehog with Sonic.
>>721018910It's just Flynn being Flynn.>>721019274
>>721018457Amy has peak BIMBO energy.
>>721018713This plus "Amy has bad eyesight but refuses to wear glasses because she thinks it isn't cute" is my headcanon
>>721018457>>721019274>>721019425all of this just because they were too lazy to change the script after changing Terios' design.
MEGAMAN IS FUCKING INhttps://x.com/sonicstadium/status/1968776533654307043?t=OS9P7tD-EZ-KAF-ebOvNUQ&s=19
>>721018457In-universe they look the same to everyone. The entire plot of SA2 is rooted in people confusing Sonic with Shadow.
>>721020893Yep. And then they did it AGAIN with '06, since one of Silver's original designs was also more Sonic-shaped than the final.You can write it off as a "le funny reference" but I don't think Sonic Team really does that sort of thing and '06's script was written by like three people, so my theory is just as plausible.
>>721018457arr rook same
>>721018457
>>721021025GUN had a vested interest in pretending that Shadow was Sonic, and there was pretty much only one super-fast hedgehog with a history with the chaos emeralds in the world before SA2
>>721021694based canon amy torso
Whats with all the sonic cooming lately?
>>721021782Wrong
>>721021832>lately
Amy is exactly how I like a girl. Short and retarded.
She's in. Your heart.
Amy is an idiot and Sonic would go gay with Tails before he'd fuck her.
Amy might be a really rare case of female colorblindness.
>>721021834No, that anon is right. The reason why Sonic females all wear clothes is to hide the fact they have the same bodies as the men. The only exception to that rule is Rouge.
>>721020090Can you blame her? The glasses for her would have to be fucking gigantic her eyes are like half her face.
>>721018457Its not Sonic?
>>721022258No thats White Sonic.It happens when his credit score is high enough.
>>721021715No, Shadow being mistaken for Sonic is a holdover from when he really did look like Sonic, they just didn't change the script
>>721022135Proof?
When is Light Sonic going to be relevant again?
>>721022517Its weird how a large amount of the fanbase just decided Amy has a heart spot in her fur.
>>721022610Well, that's the thing, whatever is not confirmed can be anything you want.
>>721022491Thank God. People call Shadow edgy, but that design is next level edgy, and not in a cool way
>>721022662I get that, but its just interesting that one in specific is almost a consensus.Its like how every human culture finds some way to grow grain and make alcohol without input from eachother.
>>721022517This official render of Amy. She has the same torso as Sonic. This is the case with all female characters aside from Rouge.
>>721022075Well, at least Tails is not 12.
>>721022902Shape ok, but you don't know if there's skin under there like Sonic.
>>721021694Shapely
>>721022783It's more that one or a few people did it and everyone that saw it went "yeah that is cute and fits her well" and it became a sort of consensus because it fits her.
>>721021715>GUN had a vested interest in pretending that Shadow was SonicYeah, they couldn't even admit that Shadow exists because then they'd have to explain where he came from and if there are two things nebulous government agencies hate, they're being honest and taking responsibility.
>>721022952He's even younger than that
>>721023381He's 14 Amy is 12 Sonic is 18
3 Sonics
>>721018457Ian can't write Amy, even with someone she actually interacted with, so he just lazily throws in a reference and not even one people liked about her.
>>721023425What ass did you pull this out of? Anyway, ages were removed and you justifying a pedo ship is still one.
>>721022491Can’t believe this design actually got to see the light of day
>>721023425Silver is technically negative years old.
>>721022075Sonic will never be gay.
>>721023038We've seen Amy in a bikini and just recently seen a pretty generous dip in her cleavage (https://x.com/soniccitynet/status/1968681676524888466), there's no hint of a skin patch. It could be a weird heart shape but it would have to be kinda wide and squished.
>>721023706>We've seen Amy in a bikiniSonic X?Barely canon.
Amy does have breasts.
>>721023541Exact ones, but Tails is still a child not much older than Charmy.
>>721023876Only in certain SA2 renders. In your pic that's just her Sonic-shaped chest.
>>721022902Also, CrossWorlds gives her rack back.
>>721023985So Sonic has breasts.
>>721023882Ian headcanon not accepted. Tails was always between 8-10 and nowhere higher. Amy drives a car and lives in an apartment or home, owns a bakery, and side hustle. They're both more adult than Sonic who's the heart of a boy and homeless.
Canon Amy has no skin patch.
>>721023985Someone can post a screenshot of Amy in CrossWorlds and they gave her spats but noticably made her breasts more defined.
>>721022601The moment they decide to make a game based on his rivals again. Crossworlds giving most characters a baseline 3D model to work from shouldn't be understated. It means that we MIGHT get characters other than Tails/Knuckles/Amy in future games.Call it cope, I want to believe.
>>721023804That outfit is in Rumble too, so we can see her in one in a game as well.
>>721023440who invited silver?
>>721024343I highly doubt anyone other then Shadow will get their own games again. At best a team up with Sonic like Ian wanting to make Rush 3 so Blaze can do shit again. I'm just hoping Omega gets to do shit if Shadow gets another game (they did let Black Doom escape). Current hope there is Shadow of the Lost Kingdom. Shadow in Atlantis since Sonic can't swim and Black Doom and possess giant fish monsters.
>>721024440Bullshit
By the way, there's nothing wrong with fanon designs. Canon has those disgusting blob feet, for example.
>>721023440Man, Silver sure got fucked over by debuting in 06 and having that "IT'S NO USE!" softlock glitch. He'll never not have that stigma associated with him
>>721024575It's true.>>721024616This as well, it takes a special autism to get particularly fussy over it but sometimes I like pointing it out
>>721022601Never, all he got was the possibility of Zavok being his arch-enemy in the future since he's one of the few characters from the present that will still be alive in his time because he's from a species that lives for over 1000 years
>>721020893She did it again in 06 IIRC, so it's not all done before Terios' redesign.
>>721023440I'm seein' triple here!
>>721021017YEAAAAAAHIm glad I pre-order the deluxe edition
>>721024770>Lives 1000’s of years so won’t die by natural causes>Wants to murder everyone and shows no remorse>Nearly ended the world twice Why doesn’t sonic man kill the zavokler?
>>721025052>Why doesn’t sonic man kill the zavokler?Sonic refuses to kill his foes and keeps offering everyone second and third and fourth chances. This is one of the things Surge actually hates about him the most.
NO SHEEPNO BUY
You know you're a loser when a robot plays the "no bitches" card
>>721024729Nice, thanks
What do we think about the headcanon of Sonic as asexual/aromantic?
>>721025052>>721025265Why do the comic writers think Sonic is Batman? Sonic doesn't actively kill enemies, but he doesn't save them either. He's perfectly fine with Eggman dying by going down with his creations.
>>721025429Just start "She's in" posting and manifest it, anon. It'll work for sure...
>>721025526Sonic is literally too cool to settle down with a girl. That's literally the only reason he doesn't smash Amy -- he respects her too much to pump and dump her. The fact Ian doesn't understand this is baffling.
>>721025527
>>721025486>After Vector wins the race he canonically paid his electric bill and went to Vanilla to get some rabbit milf pussy He deserves it
>>721025746He'll try but he's still a loser.
How does Vector pay his bills if money doesn't exist?
>>721025986How do Banjo and Kazooie pay the bills if they don't have a job?
>>721025265Why didn't he give Mephiles, Erazor Djinn and King Arthur second chances?
BAD NEWS:Nintendo is cancelling pre-order for CrossWorlds. They are butthurt
>>721026063By collecting jiggies? There are tons of collectibles around free for the taking.
>>721021017Based.
>>721018573It's an in-joke obviously.
>>721019425>triggers Ian FlynnAAAAIIIEEEEEE
>>721026321I should read this.9 year old me would die at the prospect of a Metal Sonic and Bass team up.
>>721025986>How does Vector pay his bills if money doesn't exist?it exists in the japanese version i guess
>>721026556Worth it. The second crossover is dog shit so skip it and preserve your memories.
>>721018457why is she so racist
>>721025486>fucks the robot
>>721023440>Goku, Bejita and TrunksKino
I don't know why but Charmy being the "annoying little shit" type in this game I find amusing. I can see him probably being used by particular griefer types.
>>721026079Erazor Djinn is fine, King Arthur wasn't real, Mephiles became Solaris
>>721026079>MephilesTime travel bro, it got retconned out of canon.>Erazor Djinn, King ArthurStorybook characters, they aren't real and thus he isn't culpable.
>>721026706It's unfortunate, too. Seeing tons of Sega and Capcom together should have been special, but it was just an Archie exec throwing money around, clawing for clout before peace-ing out of the company now deeply in debt. IIRC
is blaze in?
>>721027713She's in.
>>721018457This implies silver remembers 06
>>721027636Sally is a bit of place, being the only Archie rep there.
with a stroke of luck you might become a monster truck
>>721027930So? Sticks is the only Boom rep.
>>721027713Every character playable in a 3D game aside from Gamma is playable.
>>721027636that teacher Vanillai think i know the inspiration.
>>721028089Sticks isn't a comic character.
>>721028032Those animals are so fucking funny, they make me want to merge without looking!
Yup I'm maining the behttps://x.com/funkin03/status/1968771492742652399
>>721028207Neither is Sally.
>>721028247Comics were first
>>721027636>Rouge and Shadow together>Knuckles nowhere nearbyhilarious
>>721027713Barely. They don't bother to put her in any promotions.
>>721023668Are you sure?
>>721028301They took the design from SatAM's design doc. She was planned for a show and they looted her. Her origin is still the show. If her comic presence is more important, why did the comic end up changing THEIR wrong color scheme to match the show and then try to explain it in the lore?
>>721018457The real joke is that Silver will always be in the shadow of the other two.
>>721028506Which is dumb, my niece doesn't give a shit about Sonic but got excited when she saw Blaze in the trailer and wanted to play as her because pretty kitty. Easy small girls market with her.
>>721027086Where is Broly?
>>721028520Synergy, easier to alter the comic palette due to their nature.
>>721028637Bro, just take the L. Sally was designed by DIC. NOT Archie.
>>721027713Yes
>>721028718I'll be honest I was just trying to stir shit.She had a pretty sexy voice in the show, I've never watched it so I don't really imaging Sally sounding like that in the comics.
>>721028513Positive.
>>721028747I will marry this cat.
>>721028616Tell her to go for the cute pink hedgey instead.
>>721028834Kath Soucie. She really nailed the dry, sarcastic wit. You COULD watch it, you probably wouldn't completely regret it. It's not a bad show, but it is kind of low effort shit in places. When Dulcy shows up, it nosedives.
>>721029034She's aware and doesn't give a fuck about Amy. Wouldn't even play Superstars with her dad and brother despite cute girl for family time.
>>721028520>She was planned for a show and they looted herImagine the world if Sally was in a different franchise that never associated with Sonic. Goddamn.
>>721018457is she color blind or something
>>721029146Sorry to say but there's something wrong with her. I'd watch out for teachers too in future convincing her she's meant to be a boy.
>>721025986>>721026607Money has to exist in the English version too, otherwise there's a giant casino in Station Square that exists solely for Sonic to gamble with rings, as opposed to it just being a goofy video game contrivance. And there's clearly businessmen and women mucking about in Station Square. Probably, it's been a long time since I've played SA.
>>721029327She's a very girly girl so not worried about that. She just doesn't care about anything Sonic in any capacity beyond thinking the kitty is cute.
>>721023571Can’t believe this design actually got to see the light of dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUhf2hh-qD4
>>721029217I meant she was planned for SatAM... not a NON-Sonic show. That would have been pretty weird if they ran away with a character planned for something else.Anyways, she's certainly not the worst thing about Archie... and certainly not the worst thing about Sonic. Even if "the slap" was really bad.
I cannot believe 8 year old me got a puppy dog crush on Amy's ugly ass model from that game.
>>721029573I just think she was a mistake because her role clashed hard with Amys.
>>721027930There's an American among us!
>>721029697Your brain was telling you what peak was, and you went for it. You still find her attractive.
>>72102969706? Do you now have a thing for long legs?
>>721025429Lanolin makes me really wanna pick up IDW but apparently she’s an insufferable character so I guess I’ll just stick to jerking off to her
>>721029985Oh, not that one.For some reason I forgot to point out I meant Adventure. The 06 models are a little dead-eyed for me. Like walking taxidermy.
>>721029752>SatAM debuted September 18, 1993>Sonic CD debuted September 23, 1993Technically, Sally has seniority, so Amy should be recast.Jokes aside, Amy was nothing but a clingy pink Sonic (also "something, something tarot" if you are a manual reading nerd). She is nothing like the Amy we know until all the way in 1998 when Sonic Adventure happened.
Sakura status?
>>721030153Ach, either of her adventure 1 models is fine, the original is really cute
>>721030216Amy actually debuted in a manga released in April 1992, so she has seniority.
is snaking going to be a huge thing in this game?
>>721030086She apologized so it's fine.
>>721029697>>721030153that's not THAT bad and she's pretty busty in SA1
I am only gonna play Metal Sonic, Robotnik, Sage, and Omega.Eggman just has a strong fuckin aesthetic.
>>721020090extremely based headcanon, I'm stealing it
>>721030359Is that the comic with the weird, nerdy Sonic? Can you prove that was Amy? I thought it was just "Sonic but girl" which has happened a number of times, like Underground's Sonia.
>>721029536>She just doesn't care about anything Sonic in any capacity beyond thinking the kitty is cute.This is so many secondary and tertiary fans of so many media properties, and so many people watch an anime or play a game simply because they saw a single character and became enthralled with them. It's normal. Don't let some STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on /v/ try to blackpill you for something so innocuous.
>>721030890She is named Amy in the comic.
>>721029573Sally is amazing I donno about her post '00 incarnations but I was simply infatuated with her as a kid.
>>721028747my wife
>>721031078I never liked her after Archie's universal reboot. Her design wasn't as sexy, and they reduced her sauciness, never seeming to hint at flirting with Sonic (I'm certain that was Sega's doing). Unlike Ian I don't get off to lesbians either, so any teasing with female cast is just "bleh"
>>721030967>Amy is older than almost everyone on this board
>>721028169
>>721028617he'll crush you
Sally is just a relic of the time Sega of Japan and America would have power struggles over dumb shit.
>>721031903America did everything right, and were the reason Sonic took off. If Japan weren't such prideful farts, they would know what's good for them and not fight when things like SatAM or Mania elevate their brand.
>>721032062Mania was more of a celebration of the Japanese side. Even the cover art was an homage to the Japanese covers.
>>721026706Why? Haven't read either
>>721025527IDW has no overarching story. The comic tries to mask that by inserting artificial drama in every story.
>>721032347Mania team is literally made up of westerners, dude. And then Sega didn't immediately book them for more. Because this humble little game they held back just to be a promo for Forces was cheered and raised onto shoulders while Forces was a fart.Do you really think it's important to the argument that the cover art looks like Japanese Sonic promo shit?
>>721022491>>721022704>scars>"missing" an eyeStraight up donutsteel OC nonsense. The bottom two aren't terrible for the whole "evil clone of Sonic" thing, but man are they mediocre compared to Shadow.Captcha: The Gay
>>721031403+1 upvote
>>721025527The argument is less that Sonic doesn't kill like Batman its that he doesn't make sure the enemy is gone and under certain circumstances treats them like frenemies, he's pretty content with letting Eggman go especially after he helps him stop whatever other nonsense is going on like in SA2
>>721032428Its a good crossover that plays on the similarities and differences between classic mega man and sonic. The story is about what you would expect between the two properties from eggman/willy admiring each to the inevitable betray. In between you get robot masters puns and metal/bass not being jobbers as well. Best of all it sticks to game only chars so it is easy to read and not overstay its welcome. Being on every comic pirate site out there, you don't lose anything reading it.
>>721033248Why should he? He's not a cop or a superhero. Sonic is just a dude who does what feels is right.
>>721022491bottom left would be a cool villain
>>721028513>two dudes who stick together through thick and thin>"LOL THEY'RE GAY"I bet you thought Sam and Frodo sharing a tender moment as they're on the verge of death at the summit of a giant evil Lucifer volcano shithole Hellscape were gay, too. You think the two men of Pompeii embracing each other in their last moments while they're blanketed in burning ash as Mount Vesuvius spews burning death across a 400 mile radius were gay. You don't understand the true bond of a brother from another mother. CS Lewis pegged you as a faggot before you were even born. You will face dire consequences.
>>721021017everyone is here!!!
>>721033786>Why should he?No one's really saying he should except Surge and I don't think anyone takes her advice seriously except Kit who is mentally ill (like Surge)
>>721034163You in the middle.
>>721033786Anon just because a antagonist thinks something and people explain their motive doesn't really mean they agree with said antagonist.The bitch has no memories and was genetically modified to kill sonic, from her PoV if he did kill them then she would have a normal life, now that's probably not even true so it doesn't matter
>>721029549WHAT IS THAT
>>721034707Ok funny enough actually watching it explained everything, I had no idea the official singer of this song is holding onto for dear life to the one Sonic song he was contracted for to make this OC, though after seeing what he looks like in real life not surprised.
>>721025265>Sonic refuses to kill his foes and keeps offering everyone second and third and fourth chances.He doesn't do this, and this was never an issue until Ian Flynn started trying to shove a Batman Joker dilemma into Sonic in order to make his writing seem clever and mature.
>>721024496I did
>>721035895>this was never an issue untilIt still isn't an issue
>>721035730He even made a sequel to ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-FmC-IvT8s
>>721027636Wave looking spunky
>>721036112Horrible, the other music you linked with just a dreams of an absolution remake was actually fine minus the video. This dude really making it hard to separate the art from the artist however.
>>721030216>>721030890Nice try, revisionist.
>>721033786>Why should he?because>Sonic is just a dude who does what feels is right.Repeatedly allowing an unrepentant megalomaniac super genius whose primary goals are subjugating the entire planet is retarded.I'm a human supremacist and a Great Man Theory adherent. I would 100% be a loyal minion of Dr. Robotnik if given the chance, I think a lunatic super genius would be far better at managing the entire globe than what we have now.That said, Sonic views Eggman as evil, and he is definitely at least a little evil at best, depending on his incarnation, and he's killed who knows how many people or "Mobians" in pursuit of his goals. There's no good justification for Sonic allowing his arch nemesis to go free and do w/e tf he wants literally like 600 times in a row. Sonic doesn't even need to kill Eggman, he can just do *fucking something* to prevent him from blowing up the moon or turning half the planet into Eggtopia or whatever. But he doesn't. Sonic lets a a guy, whom can almost miraculously industrialize any landscape into a giant military industrial complex and shit out 400 trillion tons of robots, automated craft, and super laser death machines, all in the span of like 6 weeks, Sonic lets this fucking guy go off into the sunset to plot his revenge every single time they tango.At best, Sonic is allowing his maniacal and genocidal enemy, whom (from his perspective) have zero good intentions, go free just so he has something to do later. The whole thing is dumb if you look at it with any scrutiny and is totally at odds with his official characterization.
>>721036112Gross. Unappealing, all around. Upsetting, even.
>>721029549>>721035730>>721036112>>721036475>singer of silver's theme is a tranny infested bog of a human being who made his own cringe oc Jesus christ this is fucking embarassing... I'd be genuinely embarassed if I was a Silverfag. I don't even want to bring this to light in other threads because this retard doesn't deserve the attention he's so desperate for. I'd rather him be forgotten about entirely. Christ. This is actually cringe.
>>721036694The "Nicky" comic definitely isn't canon, btw.
WHO IS THE FUCKING STRIPED LYNX CAT LADY THING AND WHAT IS HER NAMESHE WAS SUPER HOT I SAW HER A FEW TIMES BACK IN THE DAY AND I DON'T REMEMBER HER NAMESHE WAS IN THE ARCHIE COMICS I THINKTHIS IS IMPORTANT
>>721037164Nicole, based taste anon
>>721028301>SatAM show bible: February 1992>First Archie release: November 1992fun fact, SatAM was originally supposed to start airing a year earlier in fall '92. DiC and ABC's disagreement over syndication is the whole reason why it was delayed.>>721030359the problem is, we have so much of early Sally's docs. but no one has ever found the early Amy drawings. so we don't know who actually came first.but whoever did, it was probably only by a matter of weeks, maybe even days.
>>721037164Nicole?
>>721018965>>721018910>>721020893The joke is that hedgehogs in the real world have terrible eye sight and dichromatic color vision, meaning they cant see the difference between most colors. >>721032347mania was western fans making the sonic game the west has wanted for 20 years. it was a success, and its succcess just made the japanese even more butt hurt because they want sonic to move on past its 90s glory days and be like mario and have a whole universe of everything revolving around him with elaborate lore, a retardedly large cast that appeals to everyone and a ridiculous setting with enough flexibility that you can slot anything into it and it still is believable. But every time they add a new character to the cast people are like 'who tf is this nigga, idc i just wanna play as sanic' because a large portion of sonic fans are hyper autistic and fixate specifically on sonic and nothing else. They dont care about other characters, they dont care about the lore or the setting. They want to play a blue hedgehog whose super power is 'running really fast' and 'occasionally it becomes a super saiyin'. They want to press -> and win. They dont want to do fetch quests, or explore other mechanics or do complex platforming. They want to press one or two buttons, zoom through a stage really fast, and feel like they accomplished something.
>>721033591Meant why is the second one garbage
>>721037018According to another video of his Sega no longer credit him for dreams of an absolution, playing victim or did they actually do that?https://youtu.be/HUC0w5fPGLk
>>721036790>Repeatedly allowing an unrepentant megalomaniac super genius whose primary goals are subjugating the entire planetyes but he's comically inept and kind of retarded despite his brilliance, and only succeeds because he's literally so fucking retarded and dangerous nobody knows how to deal with him. he's not really a threat and his plans tend to stop at "take over world"robotnik is so myopic he'd literally make himself ruler of the entire universe then wonder why he ever wanted that because now he's responsible for fucking everything. at his core he's a lazy fat ideas guy.
>>721032428The second crossover is dog shit. Awful art. It was too ambitious for its own good, the crossover characters barely get a few panels here and there, too many characters, and the day is saved by the shitty mascot OC no one but the writer likes.
>>721037419They credit his birth name, he wants them to call him his new name though
>>721037375>The joke isthe joke is pretending Sonic Team even thought of that.
>>721024496Shun Nakamura
>>721028169Oh man, I completely forgot about Onegai Sensei.
>>721037556I admit thought this would be tranny name changing shit but Lee to Bentley still seems male? And that was already like 20 years ago?
>>721037229>>721037297THAT'S HERI WILL BETRAY THEM ALL FOR NICOLEI THINK I REMEMBER HER BEING A FUCKING HOLOGRAM FROM A SMARTPHONE WHICH KIND OF MAKES ME MADBUT I DON'T CARE
>>721037394Second one takes a bunch of sega and capcom IPs, stuffs them into 4 books, and just runs through the story with some IPs making an appearance for a page or two. There is no real interaction between the characters and the base plot is shit. Art is fine.
>>721037654You forgot IT'S NOW USEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfmLEh8tBwk
>>721018910No, flynn is just a faggot who can't write
>>721036790>Repeatedly allowingSonic has tried killing Eggman multiple times. Eggman just happens to survive out of dumb luck and retarded cockroach-esc durability, and it's not Sonic's job to go running around the world looking for his goddamn corpse just to make sure he's dead. This whole argument is borderline braindead, and relies entirely on out of character writing from the hands of a single freelance writer to have any ground whatsoever.>I'm a human supremacist and a Great Man Theory adherent. I would 100% be a loyal minion of Dr. Robotnik if given the chanceEggman treats everyone like a toy or pawn to be played with until he gets bored with it and throws it away. He's a literal manchild who wants to turn the world into his own carnival casino playground, and you would die in the Eggman equivalent of a Chinese steel foundry accident because he doesn't care about workplace safety and would rather put giant pinball bumpers everywhere because he thinks it's hilarious.
>>721022902Stop cherrypicking, faggot.
>>721021834>paws>pads>canonahahahaha
>>721037546Gotcha, I'll read the first one then maybe
>>721018457Amy needs glasses
>>721037556As far as I've seen the last thing he was ever credited on was an official DJ mix album from 2020. I don't think it's that bullshit about his name, they literally haven't officially released the song in over 5 years. And why would they? It's a theme from over 10 years ago. This nigga is delusional.
>>721038272Don't use no-no words in Amy's thread!
>>721018457Sonic, Shadow, and Silver all look like the same person with different clothes and different colored hair. It would be like seeing someone you know with longer hair than you remember them having, only to be told that they're actually that guy's twin brother. This is a plotpoint in both SA2 and Sonic 06.
>>721038468And your white friend is now black
>>721038537Maybe he's wearing blackface.
>>721024202Those Olympic Games renders aren't canon, thoughbeit.
>>721038537>blackKeep your tumblr-ass fanart to yourself.
>>721038537>>721038648
>>721037513He repeatedly takes over massive swathes of land and churns out entire armies of automated combat drones and causes incomprehensible amounts of damage to national infrastructure, ecosystems, and life in general. He's like if Hitler kept showing up every 10 years with a re-industrialized revanchist Germany and repeatedly took over a quarter of the planet every time he showed up.It doesn't matter if his goals "only" culminate in taking over the world. He's a monumental threat to the status quo, innocent civilians, and the environment.In the context of the StH universe and canon, he's a force of nature that radically changes or demolishes everything in his path, and the only one who can ever truly stop him is probably Sonic or Shadow. Sonic refuses to, and Sonic won't let Shadow do the needful. Like, a mundane comparison would be if your toilet was constantly overflowing and spewing shitwater everywhere, so you call the plumber, but the plumber never fixes the toilet. He just miraculously removes all the shitwater. Then a week later you're kneedeep in shitwater again and your life is awful again, but oh great the plumber is back to fix the symptoms while resolutely refusing to cure the disease.Again, I say this with fullchested support of Hitler/Dr Robotnik as a mere mook lackey. Sonic is an enabler, he deserves to lose simply because he's been allowing Eggman to do w/e tf he wants for ~30 years straight and only ever stepping in to collapse his plans right before he gets checkmate.
>>721034539awooga
>>721027636>lanolin with no tits>vanilla with titsNow that first one is rare. You almost never see big tit characters get flattened in fanart.
IT'S SONIC RACIIIIIIIIIIING
>>721018713>>721020090even if she's "colorblind" how could she confuse silver with anyone else, he's the whitest person in the room.
>>721039148https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoNHGngO65U&ab_channel=SEGASOUNDTEAM-TopicEVERYBODY'S SUPER SONIC RACING
>>721038468>Sonic, Shadow, and Silver all look like the same person What?!? No, they don't. Well, maybe they do now, thanks to the retard who's making every Sonic character like weak, wimpy cucks. Remember when Shadow and Silver had a sharper and edgier eye shape?
>>721037851Retards just forgot that musicians and actors changing their names was completely normal before tranny shit was popular
>>721038468>Sonic, Shadow, and Silver all look like the same person with different clothes and different colored hair.Wow, racist much?
>>721038208>Sonic has tried killing Eggman multiple times. Eggman just happens to survive out of dumb luck and retarded cockroach-esc durability, and it's not Sonic's job to go running around the world looking for his goddamn corpse just to make sure he's dead.>This whole argument is borderline braindead, and relies entirely on out of character writing from the hands of a single freelance writer to have any ground whatsoever.This all makes much better sense to me than "w/e it's nbd if Eggman blows up the moon 30 times cuz Sonic always wins"but also I think at some point Sonic SHOULD be scouring the planet, searching, and doing everything he can to put a stop to Eggman.Everything else you said is w/e and no different than a loyal soldier knowing he will probably die on the frontlines for the simple goal of moving lines on a map 5 inches forward.> and would rather put giant pinball bumpers everywhere because he thinks it's hilarious.lol and also so true, #relatable. But, I'm different... Dr. Robotnik would appreciate me... He would know I'm different...
>sonic autists don't know what a gag isi can't be surprised
>>721039383Most Sonic fans never played the games.
>>721038712Amyfags, don't look...
>>721038208>Sonic has tried killing Eggman multiple times.when?
>>721039504Now post the model where she has shaded boob shadows
>>721027636>6 guys>12 girls
>>721022517What caused Blaze's autism?
>>721037654Metal Sonic: The JobberSilver: the Journey manChaotix: the C-showSonic: the faceJet: the heelShadow: the full packageTails: glorified jobberEgg Pawn: heaterEggman: the main eventerRouge: ring ratOmega: gatekeeperif you dont know what I meanhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_professional_wrestling_terms
>>721039896She's not.
>>721039661Sorry but the stylesheet takes precedence over a 3D model. Or are you going to use Sonic's model to argue that the realistic fur texture is part of his actual design? Every single 2D art of Amy in this era gives her no noticeable chest.
Espio is clearly ready to go.
>>721039976>Sorry but the stylesheet takes precedence over a 3D model.Literal cope. The "stylesheet" is made FOR the 3D model, but I guess you don't understand that.
>>721039896Being lobotomized by Sonic Team to be Silver's tard wrangler because Iizuka was offended she had a super form
>>721039216looks like super sonic
>>721039845It's crazy to me that Sa1 was the only game to get this right.
>>721040191>offended she had a super formWas he? I don't remember this.
>>721029549>>721036112>>721037018>never cared for Dreams of an Absolution>enjoyed the song he did for Sonic All Stars a lot moreCompletely forgot the dude existed but I guess it's nice to see him doing music?https://youtu.be/ls5iOSuxwXg
>>721040090You still haven't explained how the 3D model proves anything about the character design. Sonic has never had fangs after Adventure, and I don't see anyone trying to argue this is a canon part of his design. The "Amy has boobs" argument has crumbs of evidence and has to willingly ignore the mountains of art showing the opposite.
>>721040468>all stars racing had a main theme Literally never heard this in my life until now lol, where the fuck do you even hear this in the game?
>>721018910>has becomeWoah, let's not pretend the franchise was ever creative.
>>721040345
>>721040673You hear some of it if you podium in Gran Prix. Pretty sure it's in the end credits as well, but I also haven't played Allstars in over a decade so memory is foggy on that.
>>721040805Damn. I guess I never played ASR that much but then again I was like 13 or something.
>>721040765Iizuka gets autistic about the most random things
>>721040470>Sonic character designs aren't consistentedWOW!!! We got a smart one over here. When are you going to stop coping? Everyone knows Sonic designs are inconsistent and have been sanitized over the years.
>>721040765>Super States are restricted to (only) male (only) hedgehogs>Blaze gets a super state because of the sol emeraldsWhat the fuck kind of retardation is this So do only females and only cats get super states in Blaze's world? This is stupid.
new cream and big outfits from rumble
>Sonic's theme is about living your life to the fullest>Shadow's theme is about learning from life's hardships>Silver's theme is about seeing Blaze every night in his dreamsHow romantic!
>>721040673Podium results and the credits. So Much More is peak
>>721037654Silver would be the coolest if he wasn't characterized as a faggot. They should expand his psychic powers too.
which sonic girls are most suitable for anal sexthis is important
>>721040023Ian slipped up that low hanging fruit with not using that quote in a racing game.
>>721018457See? This is a good callback joke without just being a straight up line for line reference or slapping random lyrics in. Wish Ian would do more of this.
>>721040765He also said Shadow is not Vegeta
>>721040959it's all he's got.he obviously wasn't the talent behind the Adventure games, otherwise we would have gotten another Sonic game like them by now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PamFBvc3xYM
Sega's biggest mistake is not releasing the game (or the early access) on the weekend.Now I have to wait until Monday and play it tired from work
For me, it's Rainbow Garden OST.
>>721022341disgusting black creatures
>>721018457>"Why do you keep doing this!?"KEK. I love it.
>>721042187This is horrifying. Stay away from my wife you deranged freak.
>>721021017>AvatarGive me Azula and I will buy your game
>>721041323Sonic is cool, Shadow is edgy, Silver is the dork
>>721041527>ripping off the "super" form is a-okay but not bejitaWhat did he mean by this?
>>721042289Have no fear
>>721023541Is one what?Anon calm down, if anon says Tails is 14 then it's canon.Fiction is what you make of it.
>>721041401Lanolin
>>721042726Super form is a concept, not as bad in his eyes. Vegeta is a character, how dare you insinuate he's Vegeta. Autism can work like that.Its funny because I think in SA2 Shadow was far as fuck away from being Vegeta but he actually started filling that role more and more until the movies and generations rebooted him back to somewhat of a SA2 state by just repeating that era of story.
>>721038272This is canon to me.
>>721042998Amy Rose is here
>>721021694looks like artist wasn't done yet, I finished it for him
>>721041527god the series might've actually been dead had they went with this design
>>721043340I still haven't consumed dragon ball z so I get lost when people casually refer to shadow as becoming vegeta
>>721041527Other notes for his character btw
>>721039845>top left and top right are exactly the samewut
That's actually funnyWhat a little slut
>>721043340But they didn't. Try watching the movie and comparing it to SA2. SA2 Shadow actually has personality besides "brooding". He's pompous and theatric, which you don't see in his modern characterization.
>>721043750I thought the same but top right has a line between his eyebrows.
>>721043857I think being theatrical is more so a part of SA2's presentation than Shadow actually trying to be, it's more like he's just very egotistical and that's showcased through the exaggerated interactions with the cast
>>721039645As far as I know he hasn't
>>721024729Where the fuck are Rogue's tits
People who say Shadow acts like Vegeta either don't know anything about Shadow, or don't know anything about Vegeta.
>>721044717You're right. Vegeta grows up and becomes multi-dimensional over time, while the opposite is true for Shadow.
>>721039845Really lazy modelers who would rather just move sonic's eyelids instead of deform his brow.
Amy has Sonic radar and can sense Sonic, and Shadow and Silver are both Sonic. No I won't elaborate further the Sonic fandom is retarded and screeches at everyone who brings up actual lore instead of their faggy headcanons.
>>721037019Neither is anything Sally is in.
>>721039845>>721045021Yeah I get it now, right ones never move his brow at all.
https://x.com/funkin03/status/1968701605101932738?s=46>Michelangelo from the 90s TMNT movies is in the voice castHoly shit
>>721045125Of course not. Sega couldn't compete with SoA so they disavowed best character.Sally #1
>>721045265She's just sex appeal, and I'm fine with that. But Amy becoming main heroine was best here. FF are products of their time.
>>721045549and the Deadly Six, Wisps, Chip, etc are not?
>>721045549Fuck off faggot, new flynn amy sucks
>>721044761>Two different characters act and think differentlyShadow isn't a pompous warrior prince, he's a living weapon and cure-all made solely for a purpose he failed to fulfill, never meant to know love or feel anything. The most they have in common is the arc of "The Ultimate Lifeform" being beaten by some country bumbkin that shouldn't be able to hold a candle to "perfection", but in the matter of personality Shadow has more in common with Frankenstein's Monster than he does with Vegeta.This isn't even me dogging on Vegeta. Vegeta is cool as hell. But I'm tired of people making shitty assumptions and comparisons and then getting mad when you dare tell them that a certain two characters aren't supposed to be carbon copies.
>>721045659>She's just sex appeal>and the Deadly Six, Wisps, Chip, etc are not?I know what you meant, but this was a fucking double take.
>>721045760why would you apply the reply to the opening statement of the post>She's just sex appealinstead of the last?>FF are products of their time.
>>721018457In her defense she knows 3 fast male hedgehogs whose names start with S also sonic changes colors all the time
Even Storm confuses Sonic with the other hogshttps://youtu.be/FitqHt1EJwI?t=768
>>721045265And the new idw freedom fighter alternatives aren't? Its the same thing but with an even more contemporary dyke/fag flavor thats already falling way out of style.
>>721018457Ian ruined Amy by doing this.... We kneel to Pontac in this board
>>721045265Coomerbrain. If this was about female characters that aren't just boytoys you'd pick Bunny
>>721046109Nta, but thats such a faggot way to think, durr "coombrain!" Go to another franchise that has no women or anything. My sister (real, biological) has played sonic games with me since we were young and she's always loved rouge. You male feminists/fags don't know what normal people like
>>721046016sonic's va sounds so bad, shit's grim
>>721046239Okay, coomerbrain. You like her because she has a fantastic personality unlike those feminists who like her for her body but don't want to admit it.
>>721046109As if Rabbot wasn't hot too
>>721046109The online japanese fans are getting into archie right now and are lewding the crap of the rabbit.
Sonic girls?Made for sex. Simple. As.
Amy>Everyone else
>>721046016Kino KEK
>>721046309Okay faggot. Admit you have no personality outside of being a fag or troon and hate cute/sexy characters and don't want to admit it.
>>721046285He's pretty okay as Omega to be fair here. English cast of the Sonic cast is overall very atrocious.
>>721045549>FF are products of their time.Sure. But I'm not wild about Sonic's modern cast of Sonic, sometimes Tails, Knuckles and Amy, and never anybody else. Shit sucks. I'd take a game with characters who actually fit niches other than "Smart guy, dumb guy and girl... and none of them push the plot forward"
>>721046109Bunny is just as hot as Sally and is a way cooler character as well. Makes me think that people who rate Sally over her don't really give a shit outside of her design.
>>721046024Aren't what?
>>721040470>Sonic has never had fangs after Adventure,Amy has fangs in Riders.
>>721046481I won't admit to anything you made up in your mind, coomerbrain. >hate cute/sexy charactersI just told your Bunny is the better character, and it's not for gooning you retard.
>>721018457>Me can't tell a difference between asian menYep, I can relate to her struggle.
>>721046285get off of the internet, ragna
>>721044717unironically the original design sheets for shadow mention vegeta as an inspirationlike, by name, they had to censor it out
>>721046531you'll get a brand new Japanese character every game and that character will sit unused for a decade and you'll like it, young man
>>721046654BASED! Ragna is 100% right, it also doesn't help that the dialogue is trash too.
>>721046545Sometimes thats all you need dude. People like cute/ well rounded characters. Its why amy many hate flynn trying to make her into fem sonic.>>721046603It was inspired by the media at the time. Riders is close to that "anime" style a lot western fags can't do
>>721046654He's in this game as Chadvok.
>>721044717NOOOOO SHADOW IS VEGETA I NEED MY DRAGON BALLZ NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>721046545Bunnie has the southern belle angle.
>>721046606"Durr coomer!!" That how I know you don't argue in good faith. People like you are dying out and normalcy is returning.
God dammit they’re still using the censored Rouge design in new artwork. Really thought Sega would’ve heard the backlash by now.
>>721046818>Its why amy many hate flynn trying to make her into fem sonic.If that were true she would try shittalking with everyone way harder in SRC
>>721018457Storm is even more blind than her
>>721046886I miss when amy was the cute hot head chasing sonic. Its sad seeing her now
>>721046871>Really thought Sega would’ve heard the backlash by now.Anon do you think they don't know or something?
>>721046935I hate how modern sonic character talk. I miss the sincerity to the writting
>>721018457I hear these voices in my head like the Jehtt characters permanently now.
>>721046863Not an argument. You're just judging someone's character based solely on their looks, ignoring everything else that makes them who they are.
>>721046986Sure buddy. Your "coomer!" Argument is less intellegible. Just admit you get angry at the sheer sight of a women or cute girl. We can't discuss character since you try invalidate anyone liking the character with your language.
>Ok, guys! Know how our new racing game is gonna have DLC in it?>Yeah?>What if..we have none of it voiced! >None of it, sir?>Not a single bit! >I mean...if the character is silen->No, I mean NONE OF IT!>Even our own IPs? > ESPECIALLY OUR OWN IPs!
>>721046982Honestly only Sonic really sounds that way to me, and the forced ego attitude for Shadow nowadays. Everyone else sounds a lot more direct in their scripts, it's just the voice acting nowadays that takes away from things. In terms of how the casts interact, the spinoff racing games are where I accept it like this at least; it's the place you can accumulate the memes without it being distracting to any actual plot.
>>721046545I like Bunnie too, but I reject the premise that Sally has nothing going for her. Maybe she's less suited to being playable in a real Sonic level, but that's hardly the only metric to measure her against. I like her as the sassy leader character. And I also like 90's ideas of what a hacker is.
>>721046936I don't. She was absolutely terrible in Heroes and Riders. Now she actually can be cute instead of being a nuisance to everyone
>>721047157She's meant to be like princess leia in that regard, but fags can't get over the fact she's cute and appealing to look at.
>>721046940Still plenty of backlash and Sega still doesn't want to listen. How hard is it to fix theat problem with a patch? Mods will fix it and hope someone can sneak it into an official patch.
>>721047082>Sure buddy.Glad you agree, coomerbrain
>>721046394Proof?
>>721047185Thats because you listen to youtubers. Amy isn't even a character now thanks to you steven universe faggots invading sonic
>>721047236Just play the right games anon.
>>721047236They're Japanese, and this is some westerners in a vocal minority bitching about Rouge's tits. Who is going to actually care?
She WANTS to see Sonic in em, that's why. It's power of love, she constantly thinks about Sonic, so those thoughts project into closest shape.
>>721046818>Its why amy many hate flynn trying to make her into fem sonic.Ian's Amy is closer to a worse Sally or even Knuckles if anything. She's a no fun allowed team mom that has to do everything by the book and hates when anyone does anything wacky and out of place. Original Amy is actually way more like Sonic, when you think about it, with her loving adventure over a sedentary life, following her heart over her head, and preferring to just have a good time doing whatever strikes her fancy.>>721046886>>721046936I'd KILL to have Amy be that overwhelming bundle of energy and emotion she used to be over the nagging wine aunt that certain people try to push.
>>721047185Completely disagree.Sure she could be a little grating sometimes, but now it's like she has no soul
>>721047303The nips joke about rouge losing her tits too. Sega just follows the "popular" political leanings and talking points. She'll get her tits back in like 2 years time
>>721047303Whoever knows Japanese should send a message to the Japanese HQ any means.
>>721046940Yes because otherwise they would’ve changed something by now.
>>721047104I'm not defending it CrossWorld is clearly going to be a GAAS game or a game that will have a shit ton of DLC, so constantly adding new voice lines and text would be too much shit to do just for pretty much glorified skins.
>>721020893actually it still makes sense cause Shadow looks like Super Sonic. So anyone who saw sonic go up quill golden would assume he probably can go up quill black
>the nips>caring about sonic at all
>>721047185>Amy blushing over SonicThat's toxic and obsessive actually. Amy should instead be nagging about Sonic being too fast and never using his brain.
>>721047157That doesn't even look like a Sonic character
>>721047157>I reject the premise that Sally has nothing going for her. Fine, but that's not his argument. Her pre-reboot character was so terribly written and squandered so much potential that it's baffling. You have to seriously question if these people even read the comics or finished the show, where she is mostly extremely bland. Hell, her own brother had more substance in the writing than her in every way.
>>721047397Right, since they made the change in the first place because they thought it was what fans wanted.
>>721047185>She was absolutely terrible in HeroesWhy?
>>721046871Unfortunately, it's really easy for corporations to dismiss the complaints of anyone who likes fanservice. Partially because not everyone who likes it speaks up. And the people who do get mocked. Also, there's a really loud contingent of non-players who cheer on censorship, and a company might mistakenly think their opinions matter.
>>721047386They can patch it back in. They need enough pressure to get convinced to do it. They better because I'll avoid further Sonic games that has her if they keep neglecting her. They're going to have to unless they want to get KyoAni'd.
>>721047284I'd rather kill myself before I listen to youtubers on a gaming subject.
>>721047413it does not. Sonic Team changed the design and didn't change the script, that's all there is to it.
>>721047496Because she was annoying like most of the characters there
>>7210474451: It's stylized fanart2: We had like 2 official Sonic characters back when she was originally designed. And one of them was a fat mustached egg.
>>721047445do you defend this?
>>721047620Yes. You should have posted the Zeti instead.
>>721047525bro super sonic and shadow literally use the same head model in the final game, it's not just true in-universe, it's true irl and in-development wise.
>>721020090Hedgehogs also have terrible vision IRL
>>721021834>>721022517>>721043501RAPEONSIGHT
>>721020893Lazy is a stark word, considering how evil Sega was to its workers.
>>721047673dude Shadow was locked away for 50 years and the only humans who saw Sonic go super were the Station Square survivors.>well he can turn gold so he must be able to turn black!is a wild leap in logic.
>>721047525>Attempt to make an ultimate lifeform>It mysteriously looks like SonicThis is lore.
>>721047671>Yes.then you're oblivious.there has not been a new Sonic character that looked like it belonged in the past 17 years.
>>721047620Looks good
>>721041124I really dislike that Big's mouth has been more prominent on his face since Prime. His face lacking strong emotion added a ton to his charm
>>721047802not anymore.now hedgehogs are just the "chosen species" of the Sonic universe. they're the Saiyans and Viltrumites.
>>721047459How am I supposed to know what his argument is if he says nothing about the writing of the comic in his complaint? He said "Bunnie is cooler." That could mean a variety of things.But anyways, her being inconsitantly written doesn't mean I have to hate her OR prefer Bunnie. It's a fact that she had bad moments. But I disagree that she's bland. For the record, everyone had shitty writing during Archie's dark ages.
>>721047376That's fine if you think that, but I personally don't enjoy seeing Sonic and his friends get annoyed by her and treat her like she's a 5th wheel. Having both Sonic and Amy just be more chill about eachother is something I prefer way more.
>>721047583>Goes out of her way to help her friends>Takes the lead all on her own>Never loses hope despite being the game's underdog as usual>Funny banterAmy was cute as usual, and Amy in Heroes is literal character development for her in a way that actually works with her damn character instead of trying to lobotomize her into someone completely different.
>>721047802Yeah the ultimate life form is Sonic and Shadow was supposed to stay dead but that's not good for marketing, lore deleted.
>>721047294her cleavage is deeper here than it was pre-censorshipwhat gives
>>721047802Ermmm... I think Tangle and Sage fit like gloves.
>>721047284Amy fans on YT have been vocal about how much they don't like her and haven't liked her in years, though
>>721047976>Funny banterLol. Now that's funny
>>721048027Meant for>>721047837
>>721047771it was reported in the news dude. Everyone saw him go super by that point. Cause hedgehog using magical mystical rocks stopping calamity by fighting a kaiju is kind of a big thing. "he's fast, he wanted a magic rock for some reason and he's a hedgehog. And looks like super sonic but black"While accidental, it's rather clever subtle writing that gets shat on cause people don't pay attention. Same as "we won cause we are sonic heroes" which was a mocking ironic reference to original egg-mail calling them "try and stop me you sonic heroes"
>>721047771>>721047802Shadow Generations' Gerald diary stuff canonized a fan theory that Gerald had gone to Angel Island for his research. Turns out he managed to glimpse the mural in the Hidden Palace Zone that depicted Super Sonic's destined battled with Eggman in space at the end of S3&K, though it was only a glimpse instead of sitting down to study it since he felt spooked as fuck as if he just committed a grave taboo and got the hell out of there afterwards. It's why there's the Artificial Chaos, the Eclipse Cannon core is based off of the pedestal for the Master Emerald, and why Shadow looks like Super Sonic specifically, even if they don't go out of their way to say every detail out loud.Keep in mind this is Ian Flynn basically having to pass these things by Iizuka, other parts of Sonic Team and Sega, so it's basically a long-time fan getting permission to put the theory to practice.
>>721048027>IDW charactersanon...do i even need to say it?
>>721048115> which was a mocking ironic reference to original egg-mail calling them "try and stop me you sonic heroes"Bravo Vince
>>721047975Stuff like the pic you posted was hyped up specifically because it was a "return to form" after Ian Flynn tried to push the girlboss resistance leader angle too hard.Also, Amy being chill kind of goes against her character being a giant ball of energy, emotions, sugar, spice, and everything nice.
>>721048179Only one of them is an IDW character. Anyways, they're better than the typical Archie-shit character
>>721048170>Turns out he managed to glimpse the mural in the Hidden Palace Zone that depicted Super Sonic's destined battled with Eggman in space at the end of S3&Kincorrect. the Shadow Generations journal implicitly states he did not go inside the ruins, and so never saw the mural.that was one of the things everyone was talking about when the pages dropped, how it basically removed the whole mural theory.
>>721047941No, it's still the lore. Only Sonic can go Super because he's Sonic, and Shadow and Silver are also Sonic.The only real lore fuckup was Sonic Team letting Shadow go Super in ShtH without Sonic.
>>721048362Okay, so I'm retarded then, and I really should've bothered to finish that game instead of just taking everything about the diary second hand.
>>721047941You know this is wrong, but you'll keep saying it because of how mad you are.
>>721048298>Also, Amy being chill kind of goes against her character No it doesn't. She can infact be normal to help others. It's Sonic who reacts retarded constantly in SA1 and she only gets more unhinged for some reason the further we go in the timeline.
>>721048347Sage looks like she fits as much as the Adventure humans.
>>721048561GIVE ME YOUR PHONE
>>721048513show your work.
>>721048298Exactly this, she's overflowing with emotions, that's her FUCKING character.She can lock in when she has to, otherwise you've neutered her.
>>721048638>She can lock inEven then her version of "locking in" is her getting pissed the fuck off, putting on a pouty face, and then cudgeling the bad guy with a massive fucking hammer. Amy isn't a serious and pragmatic kind of character, and THAT'S FUN.
>>721048347Picking a Penders character to make that point is a real bitch move.
>>721048801I was thinking of her Sonic adventure 1 and 2 moments
>>721048638>she's overflowing with emotions, that's her FUCKING character.Doesn't she literally say in Frontiers that she wants to give her "love" to everyone in the world, make an emotional case for saving these kockos instead of being more rational like Sonic, and later tells about how she wants to spend all her time with her friends?
>>721048347The reboot redesigns are alright to be fair. Not everyone is a banger but most of them got big improvements
>>721048836Those are prime Archie characters. You can't hide from your past, diaperfag.
>>721047104I'm sad we missed out on Spongebob's launch day being filled with 12 of him in every race as his stock laugh is spammed everytime he gets hit followed by "The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!"
>>721048921...diaperfag?
>>721049002Archie cucks love diaper porn.
>>721037546>no one but the writer likesEditor. Paul had a massive throbbing hardon for Xander Payne to the point he wanted Worlds Unite to revolve around him to the point all the other characters were basically background.
>>721049064I promise I don't. Anyways, I'm more of a SatAMfag.
>>721047473Which was bullshit because no one wanted the change. Nobody asked for it. Whoever the faggot that is responsible for the change deserves to be banned from Sega.
>>721018457>Do all male hedgehogs look the same to Amy?I guess I know what I have to do
>>721047941*male hedgehogsFemale hedgehogs are also plebs.
>>721047398>constantly adding new voice lines and text would be too much shit to do just for pretty much glorified skins.nta but no one's asking for the crossover characters to get interactions with the base game ones, the lack of VA is just shitty all around. Joker felt like a complete husk during the ONT and I can't imagine how bad it'd be for the others.
>>721039443What about you
>>721023440You forgot one.
>>721047294>jiggle physicsthat it I'm bombing SEGA HQ
>>721049347He is so funny. I miss him.
>>721018457Hello, Amy. Looking good, today!
>>721047837Sticks
>>721048893Penders Echidnas were still a tough sell. Hair on top of knuckles dreads looks all kinds of wrong.
>>721049318Played SA1, SA2, SHeroes, Riders 1 and 2, Sonic Rivals 1 and 2, Sonic Pinball, Sonic 3D blast, Sega All-Star Racing, unleashed, Rush, some of the Sonic Advance games, STH06, and all three of the classic games.
>>721049347I wish legal bullshit held no sway on story writing. Ian finally salvaged this trainwreck and Scourge was one of the better adds.
>>721043712>>721041527Does that make Rouge his Bulma? The hot kinda slutty girl who wants a sayian (hedgehog) but not a full retard one who converts a villain to being good through the power of pussy
>>721039443Horseshit. You say that like Sonic is more popular in any other medium than games.
>>721039383ho yes, you're going to gag.
>>721049524>erased from existenceif anyone can understand Sallyfags' pain, it should be Sticksfags.
>>721049881No? Sally was never canon to begin with.
>>721049602Nice.
>>721049940>he thinks Boom is canonproof that Sticksfags are more delusional than SatAMfags.lol
>>721049162(((Games journalists))) and "localizers" want it. It's no different to how no actual comic book fans wanted the faggotery that is the modern big 2, companies knew people hated it and did it anyway
>>721049881sticks looks llike she fits in though. she's maybe on the cusp of being slightly over designed though
>>721050047how does Sticks look like she fits but Sally doesn't?
>>721050014>>he thinks Boom is canonWhen did I say this? Anyways, I don't really like Sticks or anything, but at least she was in the Olympics games.
>>721050162>When did I say this?then why would Sally's canon status even matter? why bring it up?
>>721050018And this is why they need to tall journalists and localizers to eat a dick. They are few of them compared to others where is many of them. Again better be enough pressure to get Sega to change their minds via patching.
>>721050079she at least covers her bottom half even if she's nopan
>>721050207Because you are implying that Sally was erased when she didn't exist in the first place. My post isn't really about Sally vs. Sticks, it's more about how Sally was never canon in the first place, but that's too deep for Sally diaperfags.
>>721050079Is this a joke?
>>721050306>Because you are implying that Sally was erased when she didn't exist in the first place.why would that apply to Sally and not Sticks? Sticks didn't exist in the first place.> it's more about how Sally was never canon in the first placedo you think Sticks was?
>>721050079Sally is a remnant of the 90s era who fits in more with the American Mohawk Sonic of the time, same with the rest of the Freedom Fighters. The attempt to soft-reboot and modernize her design didn't really do her any favors either. Sticks at least looks like a modern era character, if more NPC than a main hero.
>>721050318>no answeri accept your concession.
>>721050365I literally said I don't care about Sticks, and it was never about who is more canon or not. Why are Sallytroons so retarded?
>>721050372>Sally is a remnant of the 90s erawhat are the characters mentioned here >>721045659 ?>Sticks at least looks like a modern era characterno she doesn't. the last new character looks like she's on load from Dreamland and the NPCs all look like they're from Forces.
Bring Sticks back and make her a sky pirate with an oversized boomerang.
Can you guys stop being complete and utter whiny faggots about things that aren't 100% confirmed in either direction
>>721050482why do you keep bringing up canon?>it was never about canon anyway back to my point that revolves around Sally never being canon as i have restated multiple timesare you having a stroke? lol
>>721050617You have reading comprehension, which is typical of a sallytroon.
>>721050697Nta, but the idw fags tend to be the troons. Everyone else was pretty normal >>721050697
>>721050697>You have reading comprehensioni sure do, thanks for noticing. now if only you could remember the things you yourself posted literal minutes ago. lmao
>>721050162If you say "Sally was never canon to begin with" in defense against "Sticksfags should understand Sallyfags' pain" then yes, there's an implication that it's the thing that separates them.
>>721050697>You have reading comprehensionlol
>>721036401EZ BREEZY
>>721050741What does IDW shit have to do with what I'm talking about? >>721050765>>721050840>samfaggingoof.>>721050797In that post I said I don't care about Sticks.
>>721048027Idw characters look like that faggy phase of western animation. Its already way of style
>>721047514>trannydwMight as well admit you get your opinions from "sonix twitter"
>>721050902i'm not the anon you're arguing with i just thought that was funny
>>721050902>>721050306>23:50:19>My post isn't really about Sally vs. Sticks, it's more about how Sally was never canon in the first place>>721050482>23:54:12>it was never about who is more canon or not.the longest you could keep your own bullshit together is 4 minutes. lol
>>721050575I don't want current year sega touching SOA, they will ruin it
>>721050905*way out
>>721050697Are you that fag that always stirs up shit between archie and IDW? Who made a bunch of tangle art and gloated like crazy despite that donut steel never even getting in a mainline game? You're still at this shit? Hasn't it been fucking years now? Can you fuck off to the Sonic /vg/ thread and just stay in containment forever?
I need Amy to hug Mephiles.
>>721050993>>My post isn't really about Sally vs. Sticks, it's more about how Sally was never canon in the first place>>it was never about who is more canon or not.These are the same thing but told differently. BOOM!!! You lost for 100th time.>>721051056I don't read the SHITmics.
>>721051056They were booted out if the /vg threads for being annoying cunts. You can still discuss it there, but its no longer the majority if the threads. Moreso since that tranny idw artist has gone into hiding
>>721051064this is just rape.on poor mephiles.
>>721051086>it's about canon>no it isn'tBOOM!! you forgot to take your antipsychotics for the 100th time.
>>721050959You lost to a boogeyman, so now you move the goalpost again lmao
>>721051135Well either he's here in this thread now, or an imitator is. Shame he didn't get rangebanned.
>>721051145So you can't read? Good to know.
>>721051006Give it 2-3 years. Sega always follows the current "political flow". Hopefully things will be more center by then. Even nintnedo's doug bowser has finally shut up about trump and dei
>>721051210but you said i have reading comprehension.how are your English classes going, anyway, Kumar? have you gotten to participles yet?
>>721051352>Retard can't understand things simple as insultsI envy your retardation.
I think Sally is a neat character, but I still think it's cope to insist that she fits in with the other characters design-wise, especially when people post SatAM or Preboot Sally as their examples.
If only Sonic and Shadow could go super, I'd understand. They are both meant to be the ultimate lifeform. But why also Silver? Isn't he just some dude?
>>721018457why is this game so dark? the lighting is bad. nobody ever points this out
>>721051413it's cope to say that she doesn't, when you actually look at the designs we've been getting for the past two decades.
>>721051413Nah, she is trash. Princess characters don't fit Sonic or his themes in general. Keep that comic shit out of Sonic.>>721051452>Why is the characters in a dark stadium its weird no one is pointing out that the sonic characters are in a dark stadium. Literally you.
>>721051424You know how Sonic's spirit lingers after his death? Silver is the future holder of that spirit, making him a reincarnation of sorts.
>>721051352Nta, but a quick rant. I fucking hate jeets. The company I work for tried outsourcing basic workloads and lines to "english professionals" in india. It ended up making basic tasks take twice as long. A bluray release we had planned ans scheduled got delayed a whole 6 months due to having to re-structure, and write everything. There were even plans of bringing in a jeet ceo, but after the crunchy thing smarter minds prevailed.
>>721018457Yes, members of species that is not yours usually looks same. Or are you capable of perceiving subtle differences between each nigger or chinksect?
>>721051626But aside from their species Silver and Sonic have literally nothing in common. He's not even fast.
>>721051634Okay, bot.
>>721051605why is the stadium dark?
>>721051690What bot? Its sort if related to sonic. I won't say more
>>721051605>Princess characters don't fit Sonic or his themes in general.
>>721051605There's been several princesses in the games.
>>721051690SAAAAR DO NOT DISRESPECT INDIA!!
>>721051785I think elise is over hated by the online crowd. It was a different kind of story they wanted to try and she does her part well enough. Poor blaze got saddled with silver though. She never recovered.
>>721037654I still don't know how the "Give me liberty, give me fire. Give me _____, or I retire" came out to be in this memetic game of telephone, the original is a parody of the Wavin' Flag song from the 2010 World Cup "Give me FREEDOM, Give me fire. Give me reason, Take me higher". mistranslation perhaps?
>>721051604>This is bad and doesn't fit>This means it's ok if this also is bad and doesn't fitShe doesn't fit.>>721051605A princess that always does things slow, steady, and by the book is a genuinely perfect foil to Sonic as a character, and even if the comics fucked up their dynamic, SatAM did a pretty decent job of having Sonic prove her wrong by winning the day by taking immediate action.Sonic having people question the way they do things and live their life just by being himself is kind of his bit, and you can't do that if you don't add a foil to butt heads with him.
>>721051701Because it's nighttime.>>721051785>Different dimension>Shit characterWowzers.
>>721051840Elise got kidnapped four times in one story and did absolutely nothing except make out with a dead animal.
>>721051840Its silly, but it stuck with me My sister told me while I was playing that she should have turned into a hedghog after the kiss. Maybe she'd still be around
>>721051876>She doesn't fit.His point is there's no Sonic standard anymore. From Dark Gaea, to Chip, to Zeti, to all that Frontiers shit. You are holding her up to a standard that does not exist.
>>721051876>She doesn't fit.neither does any new Sonic character in the past 17 years.
>>721051928>Different dimensionHow does that adjust your own argument?
Fixed.
>>721051928>>Different dimension>>Shit character>both canonyikes.
>>721051931I bet you're the type who hates it when girl characters don't fight or take center stage. She was fine for what they were going for. Don't tell me you counted the total worlds she said as compared to the other characters too
>>721027636>I would have been hanging out with Kunx and Sticks in school.God dammit.
Don't pay me any mind, just a reminder at the end of the thread that she's in.
>>721052148if Tangle isn't getting in, you think she is?
>>721052148Here's hoping she and none of the other cal art tier characters are in
>>721051983>>721051998>His point is there's no Sonic standard anymore.>neither does any new Sonic character in the past 17 years.And is this a good thing or a bad thing?
>>721052043At least people would want her to return, if she looked like this.
>>721039845>How Sonic's eyes were intended to be utilized for expressionsHow many pixels are we talking here?Anyway this just seems to be autism
>>721052035Well, with Blaze we won't be forced to deal with princess shit because she's from a completely different dimension.>>721052052Elise is a one-off character, thank God for that. I can't imagine Sonic being bossed around by a princess or being forced to save them a million times like Super SHITrio.
>>721052067They're more interesting as characters instead of props.
>>721052204Well, it demolishes arguments that Sally shouldn't exist. So "good."
>>721052264Is that your calling card attention getter, randomly changing parts of names to SHIT?
>>721052264Elise is still drawn in official art. She's not one-off.
>>721052264If Knuckles can ignore the Master Emerald as needed, a princess can ignore her kingdom as needed, too. It's a non-issue.
>>721052289So you like seeing things like the Zeti?
>>721052204>And is this a good thing or a bad thing?to me, neither.i just think it's dumb to ignore the wildly out of place designs the franchise has had this whole time in order to stick it to the DiC cast.
>>721052067>I bet you're the type who hates it when girl characters don't fight or take center stageWhat the fuck? That sounds 1000x better than Princess Peach, but she is ugly and has no goon potential.
>>721047157>but I reject the premise that Sally has nothing going for her.if you watched her cartoon, you'd realise that Sonic has as much reason to be as Sally, and honestly it was more entertaining before the second season when they decided Sally and Sonic are actually different characters and there was that whole royalty plot
>>721052383I like seeing Zeena at least.
>>721052368>/v/irgin never heard of /dbs/ postingAre you mad or new? Maybe both.
>>721052371She never appeared in the games therefore she is a one-off.>>721052376No? How many people know about the Master Emerald besides Eggman and also making the Mobians like humans is fucking gay as fuck. Not every intelligent species needs to have a social hierarchy.
>>721052431Sally being the responsible one and Sonic being a (talented) irresponsible guy was a good dynamic. It really gave Sonic something to do other than be generic Heroman who gives a shit all the time of his own accord. Gives him slack to be a bit of a dickass, and that's entertaining.
>>721052670Yeah, why wouldn't Knuckles want to keep the Master Emerald safe from the one person who once managed to steal it and would have kept trying multiple times if the writers cared about continuity. Glad Flynn remembered that in Frontiers.
>>721052670>Not every intelligent species needs to have a social hierarchy.civilization is a mark of an intelligent species, anon.even the fucking Denisovians congregated in tribes, ffs.
>>721052773Eggman doesn't try to steal the Master Emerald every single time. When was the last time he actually tried to steal the Master Emerald? Adventure 2?
>>721052670>No?Anon, a princess does not rule a kingdom. Her mom and dad do. That's why she's not called a "queen." She can go on adventures just fine.>also making the Mobians like humans is fucking gay as fuck. Not every intelligent species needs to have a social hierarchy....Huh? Well this is a fresh complaint. You don't like monarchies? What a weird, dare I say, "autistic" hangup. You really think Mobians need to just meander with no social order at all? What does a story gain from that? Blaze already has a kingdom. So animal people somewhere in this universe have order.
Trip has a nice design
>>721053025meh
>>721046109*Bunnie
>>721052893Retarded post.>you really think Mobians need to just meander with no social order at allLike they do in all of the Sonic games? >What does a story gain from that?Are you retarded? They've been doing that since Sonic 1.>You don't like monarchies? What a weird, dare I say, "autistic" hangupSo my complaint is bad because I want Mobians to be different from the humans. Absolutely retarded.>>721052806"Tribe" is a catch-all word. It can mean blood-tie family or people connecting with each other through various means. The reason I don't like it is because it's fucking boring and lacks originality. Hey, let's make the animal people be like old-fashioned Europoors from the past or whatever they were going for in the comics. It's bland, its boring, and it doesn't really fit the games anyways.>>721052893>Anon, a princess does not rule a kingdom. Her mom and dad do. That's why she's not called a "queen." She can go on adventures just fine.Until they make a predictable arc where she has to become the queen or is forced to marry. someone, which is played out of the ass.
>>721039896I think she was raised alone or something
>>721053446>The reason I don't like it is because it's fucking boring and lacks originality.blame life, dude. it's how every animal smarter than a badger has been doing it for the past 500,000 years.
I have no horses in this race, but every time the Sonic team makes a game that's about a princess, it turns out to be bad. Leave it to Mario.
>>721053446>Like they do in all of the Sonic games?Sonic's friends do not have to reflect all the animal people of their world. Sonic is literally a superpowered hedgehog. Rules don't apply to him. Knuckles had a tribe. Their planet had a king in the OVA. I can cite countless examples of them having order and all you have is Sonic being a free spirit. Wowza, what proof.
>>721053446>Until they make a predictable arc where she has to become the queen or is forced to marry. someoneSonic is a video game. Not an episodic cartoon. It doesn't have "arcs." It has standalone plots.
>>721053634>Non-canon shitCan we get in one debate that doesn't devolve into "but the non-canon OVA, the non-canon comics, and the non-canon spin-off cartoons"
>>721053628The uniting factor here is not "princess." It's "Sonic Team." Point to a good plot they've done in the last 20 years.
>>721053768I literally cited Sonic Adventure in that post, you fucking retard.Is this not "CANON" enough for you?
>>721053725Never heard of story arcs? Where the character would believe one thing and have a life-altering thing happen to them, then they change their belief in the thing they believe in. That's literally why Shadow changed at the end of Sa2.
>>721053878I was clearly ignoring the actual factual material you have mentioned and attacked the retard OVA claim.
>>721053890Name one Sonic game that "arcs" with any other.We are arguing Sally should or should not be in a game here, and you're citing episode plots like they need to happen in an "ongoing story." You know. That thing that Sonic doesn't fucking have.>>721053964At least you admit to cherrypicking around valid points.
>>721053725which makes it even sillier to pretend like there's any such thing as a "Sonic canon."it's all getting thrown out the window for something totally different after a couple of games anyway.
>>721054015>That thing that Sonic doesn't fucking have.You are retarded. Shadow literally had a character arc in his debut game. And if you want a Sonic game that "arcs" with other Sonic games, then have this: SA2 and Shadow the Hedgehog.
>>721054184SA2 was the last time Sonic had continuity. It's a fucking joke that you'd pick that.
>>721052284You're the guy who sees them that way. Its such a lame mentality. You're striping away femininity because you want every character to act like a man
>>721054015>At least you admit to cherrypicking around valid points.Said the retard who cherry-picked a non-canon OVA. LMAO!!!
>>721053025Yeah she's cute
>>721054126Exactly. No reason to get panties in a twist about plots Sally "needs to have" because after a character is introduced, they're just tossed into an assorted candy bowl... if they even get to come back.
>>721054184>SA2 and Shadow the Hedgehog.nta but when in Shadow the Hedgehog does even a single character express surprise that Shadow is still alive?
>>721054253It was a list, and you dodged one thing you deem invalid to ignore the valid one. Pathetic tactic.
