I tried 2xko a bit and the devs need to add some real deal zoners. I need some fullscreen 2x assists to spam.
>he wants Mahvel strider in a game with one button motion inputsAbsolutely crazy
>>721044943I am counting frame data. I know its not necessary to play fighting games so does that mean I am bad for wanting to know about it?
>>7210449432xko is the most fun fighting game out right now and its not even close.
>>721046160Are you playing at a level that knowing beyond what's safe/unsafe/plus/minus gives you an advantage? I ask that because at lower levels, players are better off prioritizing practical stuff like hit confirms, anti airs/crosscuts, whiff punishing, poking, etc.But no, you aren't bad for wanting to know about frame data.
>>721046378I guess I'm at a moderate level since I know all the basic shit, so now getting to know how much frame gap is in between two of my attacks lets me know how much wiggle room I have to play with. It's a lot of work since I am also noting down how to beat options out of those gaps, as well as this being expanded on the opponent's side of the offense.There's probably already someone who has done the work already but I feel like I have to do it myself, since I don't like to go to training mode otherwise
>>721046296Considering you play every old fighting game worth its salt with rollback, no it isn't. It's retarded kusoge that is fun now, will gradually get less fun over time and be dead a year from now.
>>721047878As long as you're having fun doing your own research, then that's fine anon.
>>721046296Which is crazy because I checked steamdb and it has no players.
>>721044943What lol characters would make good zoners, and are any of them cool?
>>721046378>plus/minusI never understood this, and I've been playing various fightans for years. I kind of understand "safe" and "unsafe" as "whiff poke, fine. whiff heavy, bad", but I still don't play at a level beyond drunken online lobbies.
>>7210462962xko fucking sucks. Making a button for everything just created the same problem they were trying to solve by removing motion inputs.
>>721048720WHAT ITS SOOOOO SIMPLEif you are plus that means you can start to act before your opponent does and vice versa. However, there are two important things to discuss about frame data I've learned:-just because something is minus doesn't mean its COMPLETELY unsafe. Like something that is -3 is pretty safe since most attacks startup in 5 frames or up, or even if a move starts up in 2 frames, that means your opponent has to do a frame perfect input to punish you anyways-distance also plays how safe you are. So if you are -10 but your more than halfway across the screen, it doesn't matter, nor if your recovery is 20 frames or something
>>721048720fighting games are basically turn based games with real time combat when neither player is plus or minus Some moves give you more frame advantage, meaning that your opponent will be stuck in blockstun and will only be able to act later while some other moves give you frame disadvantage, meaning that you will have to wait for your turn AFTER USING IT YOURSELF or if it's bad enough, that you can be punished for using said move. Less often you will have 0 moves that bring both players to neutral once your opponent blocks itMost casuals fall for the jump-in spam easily because that's the easiest/fastest way to be plus as most traditional fighters give you plus frames in most jumping attacks if your character isn't mega bad.
It did look better than before, still didn't look very good.Still not interested.
>>721044943you need to go pick on children and get the shit kicked out of you or something, only real way to get that obnoxious fucking taste out of you
>>721044943This TampaNeverSleeps tourny is great.I hope official tournies allow bout Duo's and SIngles in the same bracket.
>>721048209>nen impact/tokon fag coping>>721048820skill issue 2xko will be the PREMIERE fighting game with the MOST tournament entrants and the BEST prize pools!
2H2O has some of the worst supers/finishers I've ever seen in a fightan gaem
absolutely raped genre
>>721050293>>nen impact/tokon fag copingI haven't played either of those games. I don't think anyone played nen impact.
>>721049873I'm just an innocent man that likes sitting at fullscreen.
>>721051695Based convicted Storm main.
>>721048209>you play every old fighting game worth its salt with rollbacknot a single 3d fg worth playing other than SC1, VF3, 4 and 5 (all dead) is playable with rollback today
>>721049489This is what a person who doesn't play fighting games believes. Everything you said is wrong. Go play for twenty hours and come back
>>721051991>3DPlay a real fighting game. Loser!
>>721052232Nah it's pretty accurateJust because you disagree doesn't mean there's merit in it, it's simplified because he's clearly talking to a newfag
leverless shitheads taking they nice makes me feel uncomfortable
>>721051991The phrase "worth its salt" is intended to communicate the idea of a game worth playing. There must have been some confusion.
