nothing cheers me up like news about disco elysium being a failure
>>721058146>soicialists make game>even in success they still fail>blame capitalism
>socialists label themselves socialists>this makes them left-wing, despite the other socialist group called the Third Reich that died in the mid-20th century whose descendents (e.g. neo-nazis) are exclusively seen as right-wingExplain how this works, righteous put-upon normal people.
>>721058508socialists can be right or left winga right wing socialist is sometimes called a fascist but that isn't always the casea left wing socialist is a communist, typically.
ah yes the classic "didn't sell 5674236 quintillion copies so IT JUST BOMBED OKAY" cope mechanism
>>721058146Technically true
>>721058508Different political scales between Europe and United States. Euros have left wing or right wing socialism, Americans have all the socialism on the left and the right is smaller govt.
>>721058508Communists wanted to distance themselves from national socialists which are economical centrists. Labeling nazis as right wing also served to label western capitalists as nazis/facists by association of both being "right wing".tl;dr cold war propaganda remnant
>>721058508Hitler called the his party the National Socialist party to literally confuse people and it still works in 2025.
>>721058146sDisco Elysium is a shit game worshiped by redditors, this is objective fact and you can cope and seethe about it all you want.
>>721058508>socialists label themselves socialistsThe writers were communists. Estonia was under Soviet rule for decades. The reason why local estonians didn't like their communism shilling in the 90's was because USSR left their country in ruins while their cousins the finns right above them had far better living conditions. They could easily see what a shitty deal communism aka socialism for them was.
>>721058146I don't think the developers ever called themselves socialists. I don't think they ever got involved in any of the political shit people project onto this game about an amnesiac cop talking to himself and solving a mystery.
>>721060292but why is sweden not in a burka?
>>721060445>he didn't see their game awards speechretard
>>721058227Kinda proves them right, thoughst'verbeit. They made a socialist game but they're still living within a capitalist system, and the capitalist system is what tore them apart.
>>721060879Wasn't it infighting that caused it?
>socialists write a game about the horrors of capital>its a success>quickly praised for its writing>shareholders fire the writers and shit the project>haha silly commies its their fault
>>721060948It was shenanigans by investors pulling the studio apart and firing key members
>>721060879It was the people involved being very greedy with the rights. You could see the problem coming a mile away, but they basically refused to consider what would happen if the game succeeded. Their wages were being paid by the government so they didn’t really care until there was a lot of money involved.
>>721061078Why wasn't the game free? oh right they made the game for profit thats right.
>socialists>seeking investor money to fund their gamethey were never socialists. they were capitalists. a real socialist would make his own game out of passion and love. not money.
>>721059629It was the other way around. German communists saw NSDAP as the stalinist party.
>>721061238They could have made it in their homes on their own free time and released it for free, but instead they wanted to get rich.
>>721060879>the capitalist system is what tore them apart.Yes certainly wasn't greed of new millionaires, it was the oppressive system that forced their hands.Under real communism there would be no money and no payout thus no problem
>>721061210Because you cannot make a game for free (I'll let you figure out why by yourself)
>>721060292i don't get this picture, wasn't suomi some kid of a gun or whatever?
>>721061346Or they are larpers and really just made a product to make money.Cope all you want.
>>721058146Oh, we can laugh about that but if people joke about conservatives they're cancelled and banned even on 4chan, huh
>>721058508>Ask a simple question >First three answers are wrong God damn you're better off asking chatgpt than 4chan because it at least isn't intentionally wrong
>>721061442Good, use the faggots ways against them, you cant fight with honor with men who have none. Every leftist needs their free speech and rights taken away.
>>721061442Enjoy the world you built faggot.
>>721058146>be commie>want money>sign agreement with shady jews>act surprised when the shady jews fuck you over>blame the free market
>>721058508No one cares. TKD
>>721061137>>721061310>Uhhh it wasn't capitalism that destroyed their studio and the socialist game they created, it was greedy capitalists and investors, checkmate!!
>>721061238>Marxism is about money being evil
>>721058146Disco Elysium was a huge success and made their creators so rich that several of them started new game studios of their own.
>>721061310>Yes certainly wasn't greed of new millionairesYes, it certainly wasn't.It was the greed of old millionaires, who had taken a majority stake in the studio and forced out all the leads, all so they could whore out the new successful IP on the cheap.
>>721060292>Estonia complains that the Russian gibs aren't as good as the American gibs>now they got American gibs and are still a third world shithole
>>721058146Investors proving once again they should usually shut the fuck and let people who make things people like do their job instead of meddling and micromanaging.
>>721058508Massive propaganda effort centered on soviet efforts make themselves the only true socialism.Anyone using the term fascist as a label for their political enemies post 1941 is repeating soviet wartime propaganda since they categorically refused to call the nazis national socialists.National socialists, communists and fascists overwhelmingly agree with each other, but in true socialist fashion focus on what they disagree on and purity spiral into hating each other.Left/right spectrum and compass is a meaningless abstraction that does far more harm than good
>>721058146Calling disco elysium a commie game is the biggest gaslight the left ever pulled
>>721058146Someone please explain this in details.Maybe I'm a retard because I read the whole thread but I sill don't have a full idea what happened.
communist transgender gay brown furry teenagers know more about the world then us white men and we need to just accept that. they should be put in charge.what are your jobs going to be on the communis gay furry teenager commune, bros? i think i'll write poetry and make earthbound clones about depression and having bigoted anti-trans parents
>>721061701read your own books you stupid imbecile.
>>721061802>National socialists, communists and fascists overwhelmingly agree with each otherIn which issues they agree?
>>721061910jews gotta go
>>721061846It's a Marxist game. The problem is that der Amerimutt is too illiterate to understand the difference.
>>721061925leftoids exist to defend billionaire oligarch jews
>>721061962Modern ones, sure. Stalin didn't have patience for Jews tho
>>721061910That the state is god. The only difference is that fascists are honest while communists will say "the worker" but what they mean is the state representing the worker (not really :^)).
>>721061890t. has never read a book
>>721061957>retarded redditor posts a "redditor go home!" file with a reddit filenamekill yourself /r/GamingCirclejerk subhumanyou will always be brown
>>721061925WTF I love socialism now.
>>721061995>Stalin didn't have patience for Jews thothe majority of the soviet community government was jewish. stalin let them murder and starve millions of innocent whites.exactly the same as what happened in weimar germany. communists take over, immediately install jewish oligarchs into power. these jewish oligarchs mass murder millions of whites for their personal enjoyment. rinse repeat.that is the purpose of leftism and especially communism: to give power to jewish billionaires so they can immediately murder as many whites as possible
>>721061996>That the state is godAs opposed to?
>>721061910Totalitarian dictatorship with state control of the economy and a socialization of the people. Both Italy and Germany cooperated with the soviet union in arms development before the war.
>>721062010>mentions Reddit three fucking timesClassic projector.
>>721062152kill yourself back to /r/GamingCirclejerk asap, tranny pedophile
>>721062091Stalin purged the Jews, the later Soviets were violently antisemitic and almost nuked Israel in 1973.
>>721062010>suspicious black guy face dot png
>>721062181That's a Twitter filename.
> But what if I am just a *fuckupatoo* -- a fuck-up *and* a cockatoo?!
>>721062150>socialization of the peopleThis part sounds like gibberish.
I've heard a lot of praise for this game and equal amounts of hateIs it actually good or is it 2deep3u pozzed garbage?
>>721062269no it isn't tranny, it is the reddit filename structure, kill yourself back to your /r/GamingCirclejerk home immediately
>>721062304Writing is very good but there is no pacing to speak off. It's very easy to lose interest.
>>721061795>Russian gibsMan, you're dumb as a brick.
>>721061240Lol holy shit Is this deliberate misinformation or just American education?
>>721062304it's literally just a stylized commie vn in eurotrash art stylein that sense it has the virtue of being different and uniqueit's good in that it presents something different, the message itself is obviously shit though
>>721062354>is an expert at Reddit filenames and Reddit online infrastructure
>>721060292Ironic, since Finland never was under soviet rule, an alarmingly large amount of Finns want to enact communism in here. While literally every country that was under soviet rule says "never again"
>>721062415kill yourself underaged reddit communistyou will never be a woman and will never be white
>>721061576>You're either with me or against me>What are principles Well, I guess you're right. Anyone with genuine principles is not on your side.
>>721062381It's Jewbertarian propaganda. They want to frame themselves as the good guys vs the bolsheviks and Nazis.
>>721062381Read a book for once
>>721062427You don't understand that wasn't real communism, this time it won't just be a fascist state larping i swear.
communism is when i don't have to work because my trans black disabled body is tired!
>>721062304Really good game, only chuds that never played it disagree
>>721062450Go back to le Reddit already.
>>721061910They don't, if /v/ genuinely believed that they'd be communists. That's how you know it's all just obfuscation.
>>721062010>>721062181>>721062354>>721062450kys redditrannygo back
>>721062304USAnian subhumans are threatened by visual novels that are not just skippable fluff. That's it.If you have attention deficit, you won't like DE.
>>721062302It's what you get in a collectivized society. Goes right back to Platon
>>721062472Shut up you ignorant American mongrel dog. You know books also have words in them, not just on the cover?
>>721060948No, kike investors stole the game from them. Proving them right as the other anon said.
>>721062472>book written by a Holocaust historian
>>721060445>I don't think they ever got involved in any of the political shitThe devs thanked Marx at some ceremony, this is like committing genocide for americans, not once, but twice. Firstly because Marx is literally the devil in America, and second because doing that implies you can actually -read- philosophers, something that Americans are unfamiliar with and they see as "pretentious".
>>721062495>They did, apparently, use scalding water as a method of execution,...,engage in the act of killing infantsHow is that not boil children alive?
>>721062582>skippable fluffThis describes the entirety of Reddit Elysium
>>721062472I’ve only read about 271k books, my brothers read about 6 million. He likes to exaggerate.
>>721062495GLORIA ETERNA AO PRESIDENTE GONZALO
>>721060879it was other communists
>>721062578Nah Mao was chill.
>>721062718How would you know? You haven't played it.And yes, you can skip reading everything. I simply said that is not a way to enjoy the game.
>>721058227>blame capitalismI mean they were fucked over by their capitalist publisher weren't they? Doesn't matter if they're socialists or satanists, the one who ruined everything was the capitalist in this case. Sorry if that upsets you
>>721058146>Created a hit game>disco elysium being a failureGet back in your bucket crab boy.
>>721060001Stop repeating this bullshit. He saw himself as a socialist, just not by the marxists' definition. But he was very much against 'bankers'. And objectively his propaganda was completely styled around the collective rather than individualism. It was definitely a type of socialism.
>>721062990That's not what socialism is though. You literally fell for it lmao
>>721062990That's pure semantics it literally doesn't matter.
>>721063105Because every normie back then had your exact definition of socialism, right? You must be some dumb stoner.
>>721061210Because the socialists were only writers? They are not the publishers nor the coders. Please Anon use your little head.>inb4 but why didn't they work for free>>721062990>yes I'm Hitler the socialist>I'm privatizing state-owned industries>also fuck the worker movements>and fuck the social democratic party>its fine retards on twitter and 4chan will believe my bullshit anyways
>>721062645Someone answered that question: Jews from other part of the world that's undocumented.The question is which other part of the world? even if you make a very generous estimate from Asia(which is unlikely) the number is nowhere close to 6M.
>>721063193No, they had yours, I take it?
>>721063234The writers could have wrote the entire game for free... instead they accepted a shit ton of money and i promise you they bought nice cars and homes.
>>721063408What would you have them do? We don't live under socialism.
>>721061238Like Notch
>>721058508too soonpeople are not ready for that discussion yet. Political extremism is closer to a circle than
>>721063250Real answer is that most victims died between 1941 and 1945 as part of the Russian invasion.
>>721063193What a dumb fucking argument. We're establishing what things actually are. The fact that people are mistaken about that is the reason for this conversation in the first place.
>>721061796Just out of curiosity, did the investors make money?
>>721063234>yes I'm Hitler the socialist>I'm privatizing state-owned industriesI don't see the problem. Today, European countries consider themselves social-democratic and have privatized formerly state-owned industries. You guys are just mixing up socialism and marxism.
>>721063456Live off the bare minimum necessary for survival and do everything else free.But i guess that work take more than just larping and enjoying being rich huh.
>>721063408>The writers could have wrote the entire game for freeNot really.
Reading this thread, I think the reason you hate a game about politics is because none of you know the first thing about politics and yet you have very strong opinions on them in spite of that.
>>721063562Most modern succdem parties are Neoliberals and support Israel, Ukraine and Blackrock. No more socialist than Hillary Clinton.
>>721063562Anon...
>>721063632Reading your post, I think you are a mentally ill leftoid and will die alone and unloved.
>>721063558Yes, enough to want to make a sequel of the game but decided to fire the main people behind the story and ideas of disco Elysium.
>>7210581460/10 gametoo much walking to the point i didn't finish It should have just been a visual novel.
>>721063632>doesn't say anything>is just smug and annoying Are your Jewish btw?
>>721063565>And yet you live in society! Curious!No, Anon, desperately pretending you can live a socialist lifestyle in a capitalist society would be the larp.
>>721063565That's utopic communism and it doesn't work on personal level, either society is there as a whole or it isn't.
>>721061869i forgot about those
>>721063684>game is great because art, music and writing>fire the lead writer and lead artist>announce sequel
>>721063662Weird, you seemed to know exactly who the politically ignorant ones are...
>>721063779You can if you are a landlord or early bitcoin investor.
>>721058146but its not a game, everything I ask about it just ends in its a VN
>>721063781It will never work because people aren't born equal some people are born losers who don't deserve to live and some people are born to win.
Who are we siding with /v/ros?
>>721063718Look at you having strong opinions
>>721063826Crazy how the "politically ignorant" side is politically raping you right now, to the extent that if you raise your dysgenic leftoid voice in a non-anonymous environment, we will get you fired from your job.
>>721063838>You can if you're a capitalist Kinda the point here
>>721063868>doesn't deny the accusation
>>721061795>>Estonia complains that the Russian gibs aren't as good as the American gibs>>now they got American gibs and are still a third world shitholeI visited 2x Estonia two decades ago, with just 3 years between those visits. The country had improved soo much in just those 3 years that I can't imagine what it looks like today.]
>>721063890
>>721063916Landlordism is not real capitalism.
>>721063779Huh uh yeah i totally need to buy this BMW and this mansion but i am totally not larping with you bros, hell yeah workers.
>>721063632I mean, I'm trying to argue in good faith but it seems most Anons think Communism is when free things and Socialism is when Hitler. Is /pol/ also like this?
>>721063890>>721063890Post nose.
>>721062990Collectivism vs Individualism didn't even exist as a framework back the , it's something that was invented by jewish libertarian economists like Rothbard, Mises and Friedman 20 years after ww2 had ended.
Capitalism is fucking based because you can't even protest it without reinforcing it and making capitalists rich and becoming one in the process.Commies can cope and seethe as even china is mainly Capitalist now.
>>721063890Yes, you're a bunch of fascist hypocrites showing that you don't have to know anything about anything to just break stuff like a brute. How do you think that relates to the point?
>>721063921>two decades agoSo in 2010?
>>721063917It would've been pointless, we both know that. Just as you don't bother denying your ignorance.
>>721062091Truth tsarbomba>>721062226Only after he has consolidated power. The entire first 30 years of the Soviet Union was Atheist Jewish terror of white Christians and forever changed the demographics of the largest country on Earth. The USSR was the first and most vocal supporter of Israel, even before Britain established formal diplomacy. Jewish supremecy existed throughout the lifetime of the USSR. All the way to Perestroika, the only way to get an exit visa with all your wealth intact was to emmigrate to Israel as a Jew. This widely distorted proclaimed ethnicity in the USSR, with perhaps millions of people delcaring a dubious Jewish heritage in order to escape persecution, and eventually the USSR entirely. This is why current year Israel is full of light featured, blue eyed "Jews" who are completely ignorant of any genuine Jewish tradition.
>>721064048Using leftist tactics against them is fucking funny, i love seeing you limp wristed nigger loving faggots cry.
>>721064047China is a mix of both. Nationalist, socialist, pragmatic.
>>721064010Where do you think they get their political understanding from?
>>721063794This happens so much that it's almost hilarious.
>>721063684So, the investors won, then
>>721063794>>fire the lead writer and lead artistReason for this? From my understanding lead writer/artist is the guy who was doing most of the work in the sphere. Changing someone in this position will be a big impact in the project.
>>721064124their entire social ladder is built around showing off your wealth and how much better you are than poors.
>>721064089>pilpul
>>721063794"meritocracy" in action
>>721064102Ah, okay, it doesn't, then. You're just being a good example. Carry on.
>>721064047>you can't even protest it without reinforcing it and making capitalists rich and becoming one in the processThis is literally a topic in the game. The game /v/ should've played before entering these fucking threads.>>721064139American media aka jewish media and their favorite youtuber if I had to guess
The Nazi brand of socialism seemed to work well. Why can't we try their economic policies but without the psycho bits?
>>721064146They won the retard award
>>721063890Both "sides" in America are pretty insane these days.
>>721064175I got some bitch fired from my office in the last week because facebook posts, this shit is fun i can see why people do it.
>>721064192I am straight and not a pedophile i don't play VNs
>>721064097>This is why current year Israel is full of light featured, blue eyed "Jews" who are completely ignorant of any genuine Jewish tradition.For an example par excellance: see the actual current Prime Minister of Israel
>>721064164See? You still don't deny it. And you still have strong opinions about shit you don't know about. If it puts your mind at ease, I'm purely Germanic as far back as I know. Dutch/Austrian. My mother came from a Catholic household. All my grandparents lived through the war.
>>721064197the "psycho bits" (ejecting jews and browns from the country) are necessary ingredients. you cannot have socialism when parasites are allowed in the country
What i dont get is how do "destroy capitalism"?Seems like peacefully transitioning into a socialist society is a pipe dream
>>721064197>The Nazi brand of socialism seemed to work well.Lol
>>721064361You post on twitter with your iphone as you buy designer clothes and a nice car, clearly.
>>721064361>What i dont get is how do "destroy capitalism"?Take a look at Weimar Germany or Soviet Russia for examples. In both cases, utter misery and destruction, spearheaded by an elite class of jewish oligarchs who inflicted poverty, famine, addiction, rape, and genocide upon the native White population.
>>721064361You move to trad russia, they are fighting the entire NATO and winning. Only two more weeks cumrag.
>>721064361>Seems like peacefully transitioning into a socialist society is a pipe dream*Internationale intensifies*
>>721063105it ain't "real socialism" but neither is anything else that got further than pamphlets, that whole branch of politics has more schisms than christianity>but muh hitler was ayckshually gommunistis silly, but denying sorelianism -> fascism -> nazism familial relations is simply wrong, especially if you consider the "revolution against the global capital must be apriori a national one" angle
>>721062578Marx, Stalin and Mao absolutely would not have killed them. He would have sent these freaks to live with his enemies and provided them special protection to infuriate his enemies and engender a sense of hopelessness and fatalism and, Marx willing, would have convinced his enemies' children to engage in similar self-harming, non-reproductive fetishism to further snuff out anyone that might oppose his rule. IOW, exactly what the authorities do with these freaks now.
>>721063250>Someone answered that question: Jews from other part of the world that's undocumented.see:>>721064097The extra Jews come from people larping as Jews to escape Jewish wrath
>>721062469wtf I love jews now!?
>>721064627>Marx willing, would have convinced his enemies' children to engage in similar self-harming, non-reproductive fetishism to further snuff out anyone that might oppose his rule. IOW, exactly what the authorities do with these freaks now.funny idea but not reflected by reality. republican rulers have tried to straight-up ban trannyism, tranny hormones, tranny surgery, tranny propaganda for kids, hundreds of times. it's always leftoids who forbid that. so it is a self-imposed problem.your post makes me realize that, probably in 30 years or so, people will look back on the tranny phenomenon and say the evil government was forcing lefties to be transgender. like how people pretend the CIA made niggers smoke crack
>>721064225and the money?
>>721064150It seems the company was taken over by glorified scammers and then fired the top leads to have complete control of the IP.
>>721063943>even when you exclude non-whitesOh jeez that's just flying too close to the Sun
I am going to post some elves seeing how this is just a shitposting off topic thread
>>721064836>sample_of course a shitskin-loving porn addict is too retarded to save originals
>>721064332>claims to be an expert on pilpul
>>721064042Thoreau predates all this bullshit by over 100 years, so yes there was already a solid framework for individualism as a social (if not political) basis.
>>721064880You rather seem to be the self-identified expert. Or are you straight up admitting that I'm right about you, now?
>>721064361>>721064361>What i dont get is how do "destroy capitalism"?Taxes.
Elf women belong to human cock
>>721064434>footage from the 90s
>>721064929That's cheating
>>721064627Marx wasn't Stalin.
>>721064929North Korea confirmed most capitalist nation on Earth
>>721064926I am not an expert I just recognize it immediately after having argued with too many hasbaras and rabbis.
>>721065005That is true. What other parts of my post confuse you?
>>721065091Your entire post was obfuscation.
>>721064768Lost it since nobody is going to fuckin buy the sequel game
I enjoyed Disco Elysium even though I'm right wing
>>721064970Indeed, from the very end days of the USSR, in the 1990's. Einstein was also a hack and his "General Theory" was proved not to be generally applicable after just a few years. The name for this type of Shine is "Contrived Brilliance".
>>721065079>I am not an expert I just recognize it immediatelySeems like a rhetorical sleight if hand. Is there a word for something like that?Anyway, I was right, wasn't I? Me giving you my family history going back two generations was completely pointless. So why ask me to do it, then?
>>721064970To be fair Einstein said a lot of things like that. He'd be cancelled if he were alive today.
>>721058146>Socialists infight and split into different competing factionsWhat else is new?
>>721065182>Einstein was also a hackLol, the takes this place produces
I am stroking my cock right now
>>721065257Indeed, right-wingers are notoriously cancel-happy nowadays.Well, he did get cancelled by the Germans in his lifetime, so I guess they were always just like that.
>>721065298>>721065351THESE AREN'T DARK ELVES!!!!!!!!!
>>721065396I have no more sfw dark elves
>>721065349He'd have been cancelled by both "sides". Not everything is partizan.
>>721065396I lied turns out i do have a few more buried in another folder of booru mass downloads.
>>721065289It's true. You can read every single other contemporary physicist and understand modern physics. If you read exclusively Einstein you will misunderstand nearly everything. This is, in fact, the hallmarks of a hack.
>>721065182Gravity being curved geometry is still a thing.
>>721065242Post nose.
>>721065740god i love dark skinned gyarus
>>721065664NTA but I think physics is more about learning formulas and testing theories. You don't have to read whole books.
>>721065484>Agreeing with scientists isn't partisan
>>721065834...but you must write books (or papers) to assert your theories and formulas.
>>721065754You first. I won't expose my Aryan nose to Jewish mockery through trickery.
