>switch 2 aka WiiU 2 flopping >flagship title Mario kart losing to sega>Month 1 dlc announced for donkey Kong flopnanza that consists of a single island >Like always new Pokemon doesn't look good>Metroid prime 4 open world of fucking NOTHING >Next upcoming big game is another racing title>virtual boy, need I say more?Are we experiencing the death of Nintendo? I think it is over for them if they can't manage to run GTA 6 on mobile phone console, gaming is bigger than ever and GTA 6 is set to sell billions of copies and millions of new consoles but not for Nintendo who is stuck in the past.
They have enough money to stay afloat but its very clear the switch 2 isn't going to have the longterm success the previous one had. Between everything you listed and it being too expensive for parents to gift their kids for Christmas, I jist don't see it happening. They got too cocky with their diehard fans while pricing out the casuals
Don't have a switch 2, is MKW really as deserted online as people say? Seems weird when the entire console has like 3 games on it and people who buy Nintendo consoles tend to only play on those consoles
>>721067379Not really, I join lobbies within 10-15 sec
>>721067379You can play Matchmaking against 8 to 10 dudes where Intermissions are mandatory, or you can join a Discord and wait an hour just to get around Nintendo's stupid as fuck decisions.
>>721064671Shouldn't have alienated the weeb/otaku base, they'd have shilled your console everywhere for free otherwise.
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>>721064769they killed the game boy/handheld line for the switch and that’s technically fine for parents with several children because it was what? $250 and $200 for a lite? I had 3 brothers and each of us had a gameboy pocket and a GBA but those were only like $79-$99. What the fuck is a parent supposed to do if they have 2 or 3 kids and they all want their own switch 2? Dish out $1350 for nintendos? It’s unreasonable
>>721068019He looks like a fatass
>>721067379There is no issue with finding games in Mario Kart, it's just this weird shared delusion among all the ragebait youtubers. Is there even a clip where one of them shows it happening? I fucking doubt it.
>>721068189I grew up poor-ish but we were lucky enough to have GBAs for the 4 of us. If we were born 2 decades later my mom would have had to dish out $1800 for 4 switch 2s and that just simply wouldn’t fucking happen. I feel bad for those kids
Even if Switch 2's weren't flying off store shelves, Nintendo can handle the failure and be fine. At this point though, they won't fail. We won't get Nintendo trying to appeal to fans anymore to get their money back. They have their fan's money. They can shit on a plate and charge their fans $10 for the privilege of smelling it, and another $40 if they want to eat it. It's over. This is the future. No one has to like it, but Nintendo knows they can get away with it so this is where we are now. And this is where we're going to stay.
>>721064671>>flagship title Mario kart losing to segaImagine thinking sonic will sell even half of what mario kart has.>>Month 1 dlcSonic racing has had a $30 dlc season pass announced for over a year. DK's DLC is also not month 1.>Metroid prime 4 open world of fucking NOTHINGA connecting hub =/= the entire game.
>>721070418>They can shit on a plate and charge their fans $10 for the privilege of smelling it, and another $40 if they want to eat it. It's overExplain the WiiU.
>>721070521I don’t expect Metroid 4 to be fully open world but it’s more about what it represents. Nintendo is in this weird “open world fetish” phase and it’s actively ruining a lot of their IPs
>>721070601That's not what it says in the OP.
>>721070571different anon but I really can’t. The only people that shit on the gamepad are ones who never used or played on it, it’s a lot lighter than it looks and plus you could have always just used a pro controller. No game? Why was every single one ported to the switch to rave reviews? Im not an analyst so I really don’t know what the problem was. Sure they didn’t capture the soccer mom casual audience again but why did nobody else turn up?
>>721070646I’m not OP I’m just sharing my own opinion. You said the desert is most likely a connecting hub world and you’re probably right but we can’t know this for certain
>>721064671Mario kart cant even fill up lobbies anymore. Its dire as fuck
LMFAOO /v/ is seething so hard.Your dogshit poor man's Mario Kart Knockoff turned out to be a dogshit poor man's Mario Kart KnockoffLOOOOOOL
>>721070571You quoted my thing talking about the DLC while bringing up the Wii U for some reason. I don't know what you want. I'll say I liked the Wii U and liked the gamepad, and if I weren't so lazy I'd hack mine and finally play Twilight Princess HD and whatever else I missed.
>>721070725Then clearly "muh cult hurr durr shit on a plate meme" isn't true.
>>721070785Terrible photoshop, the image wouldn't look like that.Keep seething everyday lma0o
>>721070843But enough about Mario kart world
>>721070848Oh. Man I dunno, I liked it, no idea why no one else did. Maybe it was pandemic shit, maybe the Switch is just marketed better, I have no idea why people like the Switch better. I personally hate it and want another dedicated home console that isn't the literal worst thing to play any multiplat on.
>>721067379You can play against Randoms but you gotta deal with intermission. If you just want to play the tracks themselves you gotta go to a Discord server and that could take a while because the game is dying from a competitive standpoint. A lot of people who played competitive are either going back to Mario Kart 8DX or waiting on Sonic Racing Crossworlds.
>>72107078526 racers as a time was always a mistake. Too chaotic and doesn’t even feel like you’re playing with real people
>>721070848a lot has changed since 2012 and the Wii U. Even more niche franchises like pikmin are now multi million copy sellers. Without looking it up I wouldn’t be suprised if Princess peach Showtime had sold in the millions. Somewhere after 2017 and the release of the switch it feels like Nintendo fans are obligated to buy every single first party game
>>721071128Imagine playing a children's kart racing game "competitively" nigger what the fuck are you even gonna win? Are you gonna be proud of yourself for being the best at a game made for babies? Fucking hell the internet was a mistake.
>>721067941you lost
>>721072434Any multi-player game develops a competitive meta if popular enough.
>>721073125Smash and Splatoon are just awful to play with randos. They're okay at the start but once everyone moves on to other games, if you ever bother going back, you'll just get all these turbo autists that never left with 5000+ hours on a children's platform fighter/paint shooter. Competitive fags ruin everything, I just want to have a quick match every now and then without having to deal with a pedophile killing time while he continues to look for the perfect child.
>>721070908We can see the date in your 3 month old screenshot name, dumbass. Yeah it was active the month it flipping launched
>>721064671Wait, it's only doing 17k?
>>721073346>I just want to have a quick match every now and then without having to deal with a pedophile killing time while he continues to look for the perfect child.lmfao
>>721070571Wii U was trying to continue the blue ocean audience, the switch 2 is just trying to continue the regular Nintendo audience
>>721067379Basically. Nintendo saw people trying to avoid their shitty intermissions and instead of admitting they were wrong, backhanded everyone after they already bought the game. Combine that with Switch2 sales dropping off a cliff and yeah.
>>721069007>Is there even a clip where one of them shows it happening? I fucking doubt it.Yes, there are.
>>721075354>the switch 2 is just trying to fuck the regular Nintendo audienceftfy
>>721064671Mark my words: Japan is going to be the Switch 2's biggest saving grace, and it's going to fall the fuck off a cliff outside of Japan in the long run unless they course correct big time. That recent Direct being the first one of the generation was not a good start. inb4 they pull the rug and say "surprise Japan, that cheaper Japanese-only model was only for a limited time lmao oopsies!", you know that's not beyond them to pull
>>721080736It's already falling off the cliff IN Japan. Just imagine anywhere else. There's a reason Nintendo went so quiet with sales numbers.
>>721080971While BC is nice, I think the big problem with the Switch 2 is that they seem to consider it as an "extension" of the Switch 1 more than being its own platform. So, their lineup being dominated by ports and spinoffs recently? That's supposed to be treated as a compliment to your existing Switch 1 library with its core/mainline franchise release, not to sell the Switch 2 as a new platform.>Mario Kart World's focus on open world and forcing intermission races so heavily not your thing? don't worry, you have a "real" Mario Kart with 8 Deluxe still!>not thrilled with Mario not having a new 3D game announced still? don't worry, you have Super Mario Odyssey still!>a TotK musou not giving you your Zelda fix? don't worry, you have BotW and TotK still! (and you can upgrade them for $20 each!)>wish you could hear about a new mainline Splatoon game instead of Raiders? don't worry, you have Splatoon 3 still!I think this is their actual line of reasoning, at least right now.
>>721080971Why is it outselling PS5 then
>>721082386The PS5 is five years old?
>>721070521the dk dlc should have been free and dk island should have been in the base game. charging $20 for a post game reward is asinine
>>721081790Eh I kinda see how they will sunset switch 1. They're waiting until switch2 hit a certain fraction of the whole market before shifting all games into switch2 only. It's safer but might not up to speed the early adopters want.
>>721064671Switch 2 is competing with the switch, simple as. Nintendo has to convince the average person to upgrade to a console that's almost identical to what they have. All the average person sees is price and software and the switch 2 is lacking in both areas.
what’s with all of the Nintendo seethe threads recently
>>721083040I'm gonna side with disgruntled early adopters, the entry price and accessory/game prices are way too fucking outrageous by Nintendo standards for being treated as a low priority to be acceptable, even for early days. You can't make a big song and dance about abruptly pivoting to be seen as a premium platform AND give your customers of your newly "premium" platform the cold shoulder.>>721083324Because Nintendo keeps sucking ass, and they recently had the first Direct for the Switch 2 generation, which was a fucking shitshow.
>>721083324YouTubers are uploading videos like crazy, radicalizing their base. They're mad at Nintendos lawyers and copyright strikes.
>>721064671According to Olímpio of the screenshots Nintendo's first party only sells 2x more than Sony's despite having 3x more users and claims that Sony has no games.
>>721070601Nintendo has gone through trends like these before, so I don't think it'll last forever (although it's a shame the trend is so detrimental). I remember in the early-mid 2000s where several of their franchises decided to have a tropical or islands based setting.
>>721082386Because the PS5 is also dead.
>>721083512Sony makes more money off CoD and fortnite than Nintendo could ever dream of. There’s a reason Sony is going after the live service market.
>>7210646712 things1. Switch 2 isnt flopping right now, its still flying off shelves. You have an argument for the long-tail performance given the current pricing and hardware, but we're still at the beginning of the consoles lifecycle and it already has more games than Switch 1 did at launch.(Granted 2 of those first party titles were Switch 2 editions, but the third party exclusives + the backwards compatibility with Switch 1 titles already gives it an edge for the start.)Not to mention the different versions like a Switch 2 Lite, Switch 2 OLED, Switch 2 Revision, etc. could end up spiking adoption rates.The Switch lite flooded family homes due to its pricing and form factor, and a switch 2 version of that would do gang busters if it can reach near that same pricing. 2. Nintendo has A LOT of cash on hand. Like this isn't a case of all of their eggs being in their stock evaluation and borrowing money off of that.They have an insane amount of hard cash reserves for a company of their size.They wont be sinking anytime soon unless whatever currency they keep on hand crashes out completely.
>>721064671>>721064671Nintendo is dead since the 90s..
>>721084332CoD and Fortnite are not first party, and sure they make more money than Nintendo when Nintendo's total revenue is around 8B and 5 of that is for first party and the other 3 is for everything else including movies, amiibo and cardboard.
>>7210853642001. After that, nothing but a slow decline and now they've just lost the plot completely.
>>721078307Could you link one?
>>721070785I just found a full knockout tour in less than 8 seconds. I bought sonic crossworlds and you fags are embarrassing
>>721084568The two current heads on both branches are money grubbing bean counters. The soul of the company is long dead. At least the game studios still try to make good games, but the overall image is hurt by the two long noses trying to maximize each quarters profits.
>>721070785Race lobbies start with few players so it fills out while you're waiting. I've had a lobby of 4 get filled out in less than a minute
>>721064671none of this mattersjapan is being flooded with indians, africans and muslimsjapanese aren't gonna survive this, they're meek and timid and avoid confrontations at all costjust hope you get a new zelda or animal crossing within the next 5 years before nintendo shuts down, and cherish it for the rest of your life
>>721091985Japan's only starting to wake up when it's way too late. The commies won. They destroyed White People Wakanda. (That's really what they think it is.)
>>721091985>just hope you get a new zelda or animal crossing within the next 5 years before nintendo shuts down, and cherish it for the rest of your lifeCan't, Nintendo's already fucked those up.
>>721091985Yeah but the youth there are getting tired of it. You can demoralize all you want, but people can and do get tired of this stuff. The jeets and retards are too dumb to work and impact the games. As a matter of fact the government has to pay these companies to put and make them feel part of the japanese government. Studio mappa has had nonstop bombs and gets government funding to put nogs and jeets in their films to keep them afloat. Times are changing and the japanese can pretend to be faggots all they want. They're media just won't sell with in these shifting tides if they keep acting like fags.
>>721093423*theirSorry I'm doing something else on the side.
>>721064769Nah their new strategy just doesnt work.It works for me, but not the masses>release console with 1 game>release another banger the month after>1 month of nothing>next month galaxy bundle and new pokemon(will still sell insane numbers)>new warriors(dont really sell) and kirby the month after>end the year on metroid 4, a much requested but still niche titleSo for any fucking console, this line up would be insane, and early adopters(big fans anyway) will buy your next game since they beat the last. But the idea that it has nothing will take a long time to get out of normies minds. So I'm kind of sad to say that it is indeed like the wiiu, where DK tropical freeze got mid reviews because it wasnt what the hardware needed at the time. So people will still look at this packed fucking line up and think "yeah but is that enough?", even though, lets be real, it has more exclusives the first 6 months then the competition has in its life cycle.Once your brand/console has a "stamp" on it, its hard to get rid of it. Hell, look at greedy nintendo narritive.New console, 100 bucks cheaper then competition. But games dont go on sale, so I open PSN and Ragnarok is still 79,99 euro's. Just as much as MKW was, and that was seen as the first 79,99 game which is absolute bullshit. But once people think a thing, it sticks
>>721093423what makes you think nintendo will produce games after all the japs are replaced?nintendo will be jeet gangrape bollywood slop or nigga mumble jumble rap slop
>>721093692Nope. Despite it all japanese companies work though chain of command and work productivity. As someone who does basic translation work I can tell you that jeets and browns are the most stupid and retarded when it comes to tech and english. The current plans used to demoralize retards on here aren't even set in stone. The africa crap is set to happen within the "next 10 years to now", and the jeet english push will end when they don't get results. You seem to forget they tried the same thing with australians, americans, englishmen, etc. This isn't the first time they've done this, and they've "given" land to africans before and they all left as they couldn't integrate with the culture.
>>721094008there won't be any japanese left in japanenjoy :)
>>721094124Sure buddy. It shows you don't intend on debating or saying anything intelligible.The normie masses are moving to korean media and the hole left by them will shake the current beast. The hardcore western pandering will stop and companies will follow the bottom line again Stop being stupid.You're either a jeet or someone paid to post this crap on here. Reminder we know there are vetted parties who want to demoralize. The japanese have done all the things you've said before and have lived as if nothing happened.Do some research. It happened in the 1980s, 2000s, the first african land expansion of the 2010 which failed, and now recently with the current news.
>>721094349keep copingthe future is black and brown, and it's beautiful!
>>721094635Okay. Have a good day Mr Rajeetnberg
>>721094349>The normie masses are moving to korean media and the hole left by them will shake the current beast. The hardcore western pandering will stop and companies will follow the bottom line again Stop being stupid.China is in right now because the normies are all tiktok addicts and that's chink propaganda. Kshit was fotm and already came and left.>Do some research. It happened in the 1980s, 2000s, the first african land expansion of the 2010 which failed, and now recently with the current news.Qrd?
>>721094760True, but in terms of pop culture and media korean stuff is on a huge rise. The company I work for even started a korean division to keep up and output more. >QRDThe japanese government is bringing jeets to "teach english". That's really it. They're upping visa's there whereas the rest of the world is dropping them since they're country is full of fake degrees and credentials.The africa thing is just the latest virtue signaling bullshit. They "plan" on giving up land to africa to start "little africas" in certain prefectures. It's not a popular move in the slightest and tanked the current parties popularity. Issue is, they've done this thing before. It didn't lead to anything.
>>721095191It's fine to be scared, but people need to remember that's not our fight.The youth there and nationalist are pissed, but at the end of the day the retards entering the country are just going to be that. Retards who can't contribute. Japanese work culture means these types will never be employed into game companies. Expect more americans, and koreans before jeets and nogs. At worst maybe more outsourcing, but not inhouse
>>721095191>Issue is, they've done this thing before. It didn't lead to anything.All i know about is the brazilian experiment and its failure. They really tried to create africa towns in japan?
>>721095364Yeah they tried this before around the 2010s. It was a huge failure and most that came in left as they couldn't integrate. Technically that land under that legislative is still "african" but it didn't mean or do anything. There are still shrines and many people live there as if nothing happened.
>>721078180>lying again
>>721095364>>721095478Oops forgot to mention the current head of the diet is a huge WEF shill and western fag. He's leading the new one to try to make more "little africas" It's not a popular move at all, and I don't see it amounting to much unless they give welfare with it.
>>721067379Yes. Lobbies are always half full and after few races end up emptier than when joined. Anyone saying it's not is coping by saying it's a que issue.
Cant decide if I should get Sonic or Silent Hill f
>>721068189>What the fuck is a parent supposed to do if they have 2 or 3 kids>2 or 3 kids>kidsnigga most couples are childless or have one (1) child if they are lucky and even then I'd believe they are buying the thing for themselves rather than for children
>>721064671>flagship title Mario kart losing to segaThe natural conclusion of pitting a game that does not have Miku against one that does
>>721093613>it has more exclusives the first 6 months then the competition has in its life cycle.The exclusives are not good though. People didn't buy a switch for mediocre exclusives, they bought it for the really good exclusives. The Switch 2 is offering "good" exclusives, but that's it. They aren't exceptional must-plays. The games exclusive to Switch 2 look like off-brand end of era games that were going to be on the Switch (because they were). These aren't games that were cooking for a brand new console for years. These were games that were hastily ported to the Switch 2 when they decided to rebrand the Switch Pro to Switch 2 and sell it as a next generation console.The Switch 2 is ironically what everybody thought the Wii U was. It's not a real next-generation console. The power of marketing is incredible.
Why did Switch 2 flop? Everyone was so sure it would be a hit after the first one
>>721096554I wish they'd give us a real racing miku. The crossworld one looks too tame
>>721095545Imagine defending this godforsaken corporation.
So is switch 2 actually flopping or is it just people desperate for it to flop
>>721096554Miku is so fucking CUTE
>>721064671you can say theres a lot of factors contributing to switch 2 fail but I really cant thank lord gaben for this pleasant surprise any less
>>721097082It's literally way too early to tell, but Nintendo's sudden pin-drop silence about sales after June is very telling. As was the reception to last week's Direct.
>>721097082the dust have settled enough to say switch 2 was a failure on start, probably it wont get any better soon
>>721097417Didn’t we literally get a quarterly sales report this month
>>72109750Lmao, you’re desperate to see this thing flop
>>721097417Yeah I'm a huge nintendo guy and that direct sucked dude. Nothing of value was announced, at least to my taste. The donkey kong thing was stupid and should have at least been included in the expansion pass.The constant upselling of toys and other stupid things was jarring. Even my wife asked if that was normal. If the next one isn't good then I'm just going to keep enjoying my switch 1 games and not give a shit about new releases.
Remember when Nintendo gave gamers a FREE bonus game like Wind Waker HD when people bought Mario Kart 8 on Wii U? Nintendo always gets cocky and when it bites them in the ass and they reach a low point like the Wii U, they start being consumer friendly and then get cocky again. They never learn.
>>721097694>YOU AREN'T CONSUMER FRIENDLY UNLESS YOU GIVE ME FREE GIBSPost hand
>>721097082Really depends on your definition of flopping. At the moment the Switch 2 has sold very well but is showing signs that the momentum has died out and now it's sales are middling. I suspect it's not going to be a flop because I believe they purposefully released the console the way they did and expected it to bottom out quickly. This is evident by the focus on Switch games instead of Switch 2 games.This is classic jewish economics.>Build up insane hype >Make unreasonable promises>Raise the prices>Rug pull after you've made money.>Repeat promising that you definitely won't do it again this time. And yet the goyim always fall for it, hook line and sinker.
Nintendo of today can't drop the price and can only increase it.It also means that switch is gonna be switch 2.5 +500 bucks. It is not sustainable.
>>721097537Last month, but that was for the quarter of April-June. Nintendo's full sales reports for quarters come about two months after the quarter ends (so July-September's report will come sometime in November).
>>721097537In August to be exact. Report for Q2 is in November.But unless they report every hour that means there's "panic behind the scenes" and Switch 2 is failing. Japanese weekly data, nor American monthly data doesn't matter because it doesn't suit the narrative.
>>721097082Early adopters bought up a lot of switch 2 from the start but with a lot of switch 2 just laying on the shelves, it's likely not doing as crazy as Nintendo wants. Also Japan has an insane demand for the switch 2 and they should ship more units there since Japan is more receptive towards it than the rest of the world. Right now the console and the games are too expensive for what they are and the switch 2's biggest competitor is the switch having an insanely huge library of games for cheap.
>>721098284Japan is receptive since this is a "next gen console" for the young/average gamer. Pc gaming is growing, but still a niche.Reminder they don't buy playstation anymore either. Everywhere else though it does feel like it's slowing a bit. I blame the lackluster releases schedule. The original switch had someone about every month.
>>721097904>and now it's sales are middlingSource?Data for Japan and the US proves otherwise. It keeps outselling Switch 2:1 launch aligned.>This is evident by the focus on Switch games instead of Switch 2 games.They announced 4 new Switch 2 exclusives at the last Direct.They haven't announced a new 1st party Switch game since March.
>>721098284>a lot of switch 2 just laying on the shelvesAnd you are basing this on..?
>>721098398>Japan is receptive since this is a "next gen console" for the young/average gamer.Plus they literally have an exclusive version that's cheaper by almost a hundred fucking bucks. Japan literally cannot be used as a metric for the Switch 2's worldwide performance and popularity unless Nintendo stops offering that exclusive cheaper version.
>>721098414>>721098529Nta, but It does feel like it's slowing. I expect a retard wave of sales for pokemon though.
>>721067379It's easy to find a lobby, it's just that it never fills up to a full 24 players. I think it's more of a matchmaking problem.
>>721097218People can act like PC isn't a competitor, but it is a hard cope. PC is just so much fucking better.
>>721098398Please tell me where this "everywhere else" is because there's no such data available. And no, don't post a tidbit from a miniscule market like Spain as if it somehow proves your point.>The original switch had someone about every month.First 9 monthsSwitch>BotW (also on Wii U)>MK8 Deluxe (Wii U port)>ARMS>Splatoon 2>Pokken DX (Wii U port)>Odyssey>Fire Emblem Warriors (also on 3DS)Switch 2>MK World>DK Bananza>Mario Party Jamboree (Switch port)>Kirby and the Forgotten Land (Switch port)>Pokemon Legends Z-A (also on Switch)>Hyrule Warriors Age of Imprisonment >Kirby Air Riders >Metroid Prime 4 (also on Switch)>Mario Tennis Fever
>>721096635>pro console that needs partial emulation to play games of the base consoleretard
>>721099741I'm not talking about spain or anything. Locally I see switch stock everywhere and we're full at my best buys. The original switch was more exciting to follow and I say this as someone with two switch 2 systems in my household
>>721083324>recently
>>721098645Retard. Japanese people don't earn dollars, nor they didn't magically start earning 50% more pay when yen tanked by 50% compared to the dollar.500k yen is what PS5 was priced at in 2020.For the price of "exclusive cheaper version" Switch 2 in Japan you can buy Switch 1 and Switch Lite. Same as in the US.If they went by yen to dollar exchange rate (like Sony who kept hiking the price) it would be an equivalent of you being asked to pay $750.
>>721064671Nintendo deserves to tank but I don't see it happening, manchild power is too strong
>>721098398PC gaming is bigger in japan than consoles are and has been for several years at this point..
>>721099978>Retard. Japanese people don't earn dollarsNo shit, but I figured anons could pick up on the implication of currency exchange.>500k yen is what PS5 was priced at in 2020.Well that's just an outright lie (and an easy one to debunk). It was ¥49,980 for the disc edition, and ¥39,980. Did you actually fucking expect me to believe that?Thanks for letting me know I don't need to address the rest of your ERMMMM ACTUALLY THEY DON'T HAVE A CHEAPER SWITCH 2 IF YOU FACTOR IN MY WORD MAGIC THAT IGNORES THEIR PRICES waffling.
>>721100789It's not bigger yet, or will it ever be. Pc parts are disgustingly expensive. More so than ours. Most normal gamers there are hoping to switch as their "next gen" system since the ps5 might as well not exist.
>>721100934There's a reason every japanese dev is begging to get on steam these days. Even in Japan, PC is growing, consoles have stagnated.https://gamerblurb.com/articles/pc-gaming-in-japan-nearly-triples
>>721101682That doesn't mean more people pc game there. It's just easier to get on there. In my many travels to japan I've only met like 2 pc gamers dude.Everyone else is either on the phone, or on switch. The ps4-5 market is one and that's mockingly called the "foreigner" console there. Every time a playstation game not from a nip studio charts in sales they joke about the number of foreigners going up.
