This is a good thing—I'm fucking tired of UE5's tyranny.
>>721077367Well, it is a good engine.
>>721077367Kojima used it better than the shitty Horizon games.
>>721077507lollmao even
>>721077545He's right. Horizon is a woke Ubislop tier game with an ugly ass Femcel MC. The CEO of Gorilla Games has ran Sony into the ground in the last few years too. They made a good engine but are garbage at business and making games. I'm all for giving the engine to actual talent.
>>721077507>KojimaHideo Kojima actually made significant modifications to the engine used in Death Stranding, which may now be quite different from the original Decima engine. But it may simply be marketed by Sony as Decima 2.0.
>>721077367Wow thing are about to get DICEY
>>721077507It's at least better than UE5
>>721077367It doesn't matter, cry engine is out there, it's better than ue5 and nobody use, the reason of why ue5 is popular is because it can be used by Indians
>>721077507anything is better than those
>>721077367It makes sense, consoles need "first party" engines that produce quality products instead of relying on third party games made by retards on a building block game engine.You can't assure quality from now UE5 game, you can assure quality from a first party engine that targets your hardware and gatekeeps shitty devs by requiring competency to work in.If anything it's surprising that this hasn't always been a thing.
>>721077507i don't really feel strongly about horizon's mc or world one way or the other, but the game is deceptively smooth. wasn't nearly as pozzed as i thought it was going to be
>>721078023It's built for purpose and by the looks of things it's built to be built for purpose, so devs can strip out systems they don't need to use, UE5 doesn't work that way.
>>721077367Nice, finally some good Sony news
>>721077507Decima was a support studio on the Kojima games, god you are such a NIGGER
>>721078141>cry engineWhy doesn't anyone want to use it? What are its drawbacks?Besides Crytek, the only studio that seems to be using CryEngine correctly is Warhorse, the developer behind Kingdom Come: Deliverance.
>>721078593For what l saw, there are low documentation of it, so the developer's have to learn the engine first before start using.Even white devs like the ones who made e33 preferred to use ue5.
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>>721078593People are waiting for the next version of Cryengine, it's really taking it's time.
>>721078593Konami DISCONTINUED the Fox Engine
>>721077367That's a good thing, the less UE5 the better.
>>721077737>implying Death Stranding is not open world slop
>>721078141Current iteration of cryengine is ass. KCD2 uses a heavily modified version of and old version of the engine.t. Hunt Showdown player.
>>721078141Probably sadly true. Square was open to license Luminous Engine but didn't get customers and even forced Nomura to use UE5
>>721077367Does Valve still license out Source Engine? Apex Legends is some weird Source hybrid.
>>721079051E33 can't use CryEngine because it used UE store stock animation and was outsourced to 300 people
>>721077367>I'm fucking tired of UE5's tyranny.this engine will be just be ruined by outsourcing same as ue slop
>>721079451Source 1 is legit outdated now. Source 2 can't do open world (yet).
>>721079569Is there even a modern game that uses source 2 to its fullest extend?
>>721079696Dota 2?
>>721077367Vehicle physics was so bad. I hope they implement something different
>>721079773Dota 2 is the pinnacle of Source 2? Maybe they should skip to Source 5 then.
>>721077367a bit late. An engine like Decima would have been a way better fit for FF7R than UE4.
>sonywho gives a shit
>>721079918The whole reason Source 2 even exists is because of Dota 2. It's the first game to use it and their reason for using it is to surpass the limitations of Source 1.
>>721078593Because it is an old and outdated engine.
And games will still have shitty performance. UE5 is not the problem, shitty devs are
>>721077367I will now explain thoroughly why this is bad and gay
>>721080475It's currently at CryEngine FIVE though.
>>721079696Alyx and CS2 but they cant be using it to "full extent" as the engine is still not fully done yet (or maybe it is now, who knows how far along they are with HL3)
>>721077367What's a licence?
What scripting language does it use?
>>721079446A great engine killed by a woke slop, grim
>sonyNot vidya
It will be funny if Sony saves video games from ue5. Personally I wish Platinum sold out their in house engine.
oh look, another discussion on a baseless rumor that will never come true.
>>721077367>rumorAnyway the only Decima game I played was Killzone Shadowfall and that game looked and ran awesome on the PS4. Fuck Unreal up its crusty ass with a rusty pike that engine ruined this industry for at least 5 years straight & we were robbed of good games.
>>721077367Will anyone really use it? Devs use UE5 because it's just braindead easy.
>>721080841assuming you aren't baitingit's the agreement saying you can use my softwarespecifically in cases like engine licensing, it also covers you making money off of using my softwareso pretty common agreement would be "you pay me a smaller fee now to develop your game using my engine, and you agree to pay me a royality for each game you sell that uses my engine. that royality may expire after a certain amount of time or a sales milestone is hit"
>>721078593It's always an issue of training and documentation/support. Capcom's MT Framework for example never got used outside Capcom not just because it was their personal engine, but because all the documentation and instructions and such were in japanese.
>>721077507False. Death Stranding is one of my top 5 games of all time and Horizon is mid but it's the more graphically and technically impressive game, i.e. does more with the engine, and performs better as well.
>>721077367That won't do anything. The problem is modern devs don't know how an engine works. The problem is not with the engine, it's with the developers. Just making a better engine is not the answer. UE is not even a bad engine, just see what the Arkham devs did with it.
>>721077367decima-balls
>>721081485If Sony gives proper documentation on how to use it, why not? Won't probably be on a massive scale like UE5 or Unity is, but they can start to license it to mid tier developers who can spare time to learn it
>>721077367Everyone should use it and Sony will ask for ownership of their IPs for it.
>>721080475Saying Cryengine V is old is like saying UE5 is old because UE3 exists
>>721083535And you can't do anything about this. Actual graphics programmers wouldn't work in game dev, the industry just makes too little money. Quant, defence, medicine, AI, etc, make way more money for it to be a financially responsible decision to work in game dev if you have the skills of graphics programming. And those who care about soul would just stay in academia. The best graphics programmers are working in CUDA to implement AI algorithms right now, not wasting their effort on rendering. And even if they are, they would rather work with Disney.
>>721077367Capcom has an opportunity to try something new.
>>721077367Why?
>>721077367Sure, why not?>SonyIt will be one of the worst licensing contracts in the industry if it ever comes out.
>>721078593>the only studio that seems to be using CryEngine correctly is Warhorse, the developer behind Kingdom Come: Deliverance.The word "correctly" seems to be pulling a lot of work there, because KC:D was a technical disaster on release.
>>721078141And because it'll still be around and supported in ten years time. Look at Helldivers 2, half the game's problems are because they're locked in to an engine that was officially officially discontinued in 2022.
>>721085201>KC:D was a technical disaster on release.Still is. I played it just this year, it's janky as fuck both visually and technically and performs worse than the sequel.
>>721077367I can't wait for people to blame the engine when the devs fail to optimize their assets in Decima
>>721078379>Decima>studio nigger calling the kettle nigger
how does it run on PC?
>>721079107Mother of god. The cringe.
Nintendo also made an engine for people to use didn't they? It was a long tome ago, I wonder what is the name of that thing or if it was discarded a long time ago
>>721079051>Even white devs like the ones who made e33 preferred to use ue5That's because the average programmer that gets hired is some turbo normalfag who unironically believes in vibe coding. They're more competent than jeets but the bar is already pretty low.
