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what a joke
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Average wow fag is in his 40s now probably, or at least late 30s, so it makes sense.
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if blizz can phone it in why shouldn't i
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I never find accessibility options to be a joke. Especially since those who need them probably need as much joy in their lives as they can get.
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>>721132834
Someone post the gnome ad I have an urge to be disgusted
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Let me guess you need more?
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>>721132834
It's a disability accessibility feature
Why are people mad about accessibility features
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>>721132981
it's not an accessibility option
it's better than 75% of players
it screams how bad the game is actually designed that it encourages macros (or can be macro'd) to begin with
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>>721133092
the only thing macros are good for are on-use trinkets and focus target macros
what exactly is the issue?
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>>721133427
>built-in macro that's an "accessibility option" is better than 75% of players
it's not "only good for" if it's just plain better to use it vs the effort of not using it
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>>721133085
you look at world of warcraft and tell me how letting the disabled access it turned out
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>>721132834
I love it. Made the game more fun for me. I just put that on Q, slap that shit, and have my cooldowns/utility abilities on 1-5.
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>>721133092
Does that not say it adds a delay of 0.2 seconds between each cast or whatever?
How the fuck is it better than 75% of players if so, you really telling me people in this game can't hit five buttons in a rhythm consistently while walking around?
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>>721133541
>built in macro
so the thing macros explicitly cannot do and has added penalties to do so
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>>721132834
We've come full circle. Auto attack has returned.
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god this game sounds lame
if your idea of "difficulty" is pressing the same couple of buttons in a rotation the game is probably just ass
maybe this would fix it but i doubt it
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>>721132834
reminder that WoW still runs on 20hz servers in this year of our lord 2025 so this is a non-issue
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>>721133541
If this is what you think about it you're admitting you're a complete shitter
That 75% includes people who have never looked up a rotation guide and don't even do heroic dungeons
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Got a friend that still does mytics a few times a week. Hes shown me screenshots of dps meters where people are so bad that using the assist button would be a decent increase in their overall damage.
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>>721134612
Depending on the spec, the SBA might be an improvement for everyone. It's really bad for Rogues and Feral Druids, but it's amazing for Destro Locks. Like it executes the Destro Lock rotation so well that it's going to be an improvement for everyone but literal world-first raiders.
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>>721133941
Maybe I'm overestimating how big a deal this is as an XIV fag but maybe people are saying that because it means you will never miss a buff cool down, always cast right as it's ready
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>Haven't touched WoW since Legion
>A group of friends are back into it
>Account is still accessible

So, how are Priests right now for casual content? And can Gnomes be Priests by this point?
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>>721132834
>increases the time between using abilities by 0.2 seconds
isn't that, like, really fucking bad?
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>>721134834
It doesn't do most cooldowns. It's meant to just carry out the base rotation, which allows you to focus on proper use of your cooldowns/utility and fight mechanics.
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>>721134915
Yes. It's not meant to be something you use when you're actually playing the game, it's for casuals who just wanna do normal dungeons with their buddies or play for the story or whatever. That and raw accessibility stuff for injured people or whatever
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>>721134853
>can Gnomes be Priests by this point?
since 2010
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>>721134853
Everything is good in casual content
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>>721134853
Yeah, Gnomes have been able to be Priests for a long time. I don't really play Priests, but I messed around with a Shadow Priest with the SBA and it seemed neat. I know Disc Priests make awesome flag carriers in PVP right now.
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>>721134983
People are literally getting to 2400 rating in PVP with the SBA.
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>>721134915
>isn't that, like, really fucking bad?
one button spec does less damage than a competent player, the amount varies by spec (10% to 30% less damage) but it doesnt matter, the average wow player is horrible, as this anon said >>721135083 there are people hitting 2200-2400 rating in solo shuffle with the one button rotation
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>>721134687
I mean; a large reason it's able to do so for Destro specifically is because Destro has extremely few buttons and just about everything Destro has to hardcast is longer than the penalized GCD.

Both Rogues and Feral Druid are dumpster fires of the highest caliber and I guarantee not a single person at blizzard has ever played either of those.
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>>721134972
Ah I see
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Wasn't everyone using macros already?
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>>721135254
solo shuffle has always been inflated rating, if you keep queueing your rating will go up no matter what
It doesnt use cooldowns, defensives or kicks, its unusable in pvp
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>>721134915
the game is designed to be beaten with it
so no
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>>721135407
>It doesnt use cooldowns, defensives or kicks, its unusable in pvp
and yet there are retards hitting 2400 with one button
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>>721135407
>It doesnt use cooldowns, defensives or kicks, its unusable in pvp
You can use the cooldowns, defensives and kicks yourself. It will be easier because you won't need to worry about your rotation.
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>>721135456
not in real pvp
solo shuffle is literally not using real mmr
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>>721134915
No, because you'd lose more time from the input delay + server delay.
The macro is perfect and consistent.
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>>721135547
>not in real pvp
ss is the only thing thats somewhat lel alive in retail
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>>721132834
I'll be honest. I use it. I like to drink a six pack of schlitz, log into my orc warrior "Thundrecox" and hit up LFR.
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>>721134612
How are people so bad at wow? I thought the game was full of gigasweats who would screech at you for hours for not minmaxing
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>>721135547
>not in real pvp
Solo Shuffle and Blitz are the only two rated modes that still have any kind of active playerbase.
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>>721132834
why are people pretending like this wasn't already a thing with weakauras
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This is going to lead to an unprecedented tank shortage. It's going to make them snap.
Uh oh, guess we're all dead because Gonzalo the dumbfuck DPS turned on his SUPER BIG DAMAGE macro and fucked off to go piss and stole all the aggro.
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>>721135743
You still have to hit the button repeatedly. It doesn't just turn on auto-mode.
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>>721135743
the one button rotation doesnt use big cooldowns, besides thats nothing new
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>>721135743
it actually makes you do less dps than just learning your rotation
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>>721135625
>give out score without you needing to actually win
>other modes die
its still not real pvp
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>>721132834
Snimka obrazovky
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>>721135928
>>other modes die
3v3 has been dead for almost a decade, ss just buried the stinking corpse
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>>721134853
Become a DelveGOD. And yes, gnome can be priests
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>>721132834
They better make it possible to see who does and doesn't use this function so that they can get gatekept constantly
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>>721135913
it deals more dps because "your rotation" only does more damage when optimized and no one can optimize it
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>>721135991
3s was fine until solo shuffle
hell in shadowlands even rbgs saw a surge
solo shuffle instantly killed all pvp because it spoonfeeds you rewards
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>>721135649
millions of players
plenty of sweats
plenty of casuals
most somewhere in between
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>>721136021
the 0.2 GCD increase will make you do way less damage for most players
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>>721136220
Statistically untrue, it's been tested. The vast majority of players are better off using SBA.
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>>721132834
I watched my friend use this and still do more DPS than people in his party.
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>>721135356
Macros haven't been able to do this for over a decade
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>>721136282
>it's been tested
no it hasnt
all the nonsense about how it performs on sims vs actual player execution instead of real logs vs real logs
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>>721136925
god I love wowfaggots seething over their game
>noooooooooo its not better than me!
robots are better than you, get over it
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>>721136969
its literally not you retarded nigger
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>>721136925
This, it doesn't matter if you can get way more on paper out of not using it. What matters is that 90% of the playerbase are mouthbreathing retards and this does better than those shitters.
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>>721136282
>it's been tested
yeah, actually it has, for most specs it does less damage but thats only if the player is not retarded, unfortunately most wow players are retarded
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>>721137287
So you just agreed with me?
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>>721136020
There's a weakaura that catches people using SBA.
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>>721137284
thats the exact opposite of what I said you retarded subhuman
one button doesnt come anywhere close in actual play
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>>721137750
it literally does
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>>721136969
Retard
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So how does this actually work? Like I tell it "cast SWP>Mind Blast>Mind Flay x3" and it does that rotation with a single button? Or is it more like Rift's macro where you can put a bunch of spells on one button and mash it repeatedly and it'll just cast whatever it available.
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When it's better than 75% of people, this isn't a sign that the SBA is overpowered, it's a sign that the game's design has left most players behind.
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>>721132834
Isnt this just a worse macro?
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>>721137901
so basically its $15 a month, and you get your very own tech support indian who you get to watch play your character
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>>721137765
it literally doesnt
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Eh if it lets severely disabled people enjoy WoW, why should I care? It's not viable in any real content and peoples progress in content has no impact on my progress. Anyone who is complaining about this is just a hateful lil turd.
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>>721138090
why are wowtroons so embarassed about SBA
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>>721138117
people who play wow are severely disabled so it kinda checks out
>it's not viable
it is, it's better than most people by default
and it lets you perform other tasks even with it
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>>721138042
yes
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>>721138080
Can't you hire chinks for less to do that for you?
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>>721138369
well yeah but do you expect the official blizzard tool to be a good deal?
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>>721138187
>it is, it's better than most people by default
Only retards which my guild does not allow.
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>>721138042
see >>721136809
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>>721138005
it cant even get a green parse
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>>721137901
It's not customizable, Blizz just made their own prio lists that the button follows. It's better on some classes than others, but either way it's really not something made for people actually "playing the game" proper. It's for boomers playing for story or people missing an arm or something
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>>721133085
>Why are people mad about accessibility features
Because shitters are upset that an option that nerfs you by -20% haste is out dpsing them lmao. WoW is full of losers who think they are way better than they actually are and the 1-button rotation was a cruel reality check for them.
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>>721132834
If your main rotation can compressed down to a single button then the game should just do away with the pretense of a core rotation, have a single core damage button to mash off cooldown, and use the rest of the bar space for actually unique and variable effects.
Shit like the Assistant is a depressing cope for a failed mechanical concept.
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>>721139703
Sounds terrible.
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>>721133941
yes
the people that play wow are so bad that an unoptimized auto rotation with a gcd delay is better than not just the average player, but a vast majority of them
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>>721132834
This was only added because of player housing. They know housing will draw in the normie animal crossing and sims crowd so they needed to give those smooth brains a way to play the game.
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>>721133038
Yes, I need two cute cats.
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>>721140151
It is terrible. BUT it's still outperforming a large majority of the playerbase which is hilarious. The addition of this feature really showcased just how bad the average wow player was.
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>>721133941
Because it's not just a list of skills in an order. It's actually a pretty powerful tool that adapts to combat situations.
You can even macro in skills it doesn't cover like some OGCDs and it will integrate them properly.
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>>721132834
>gut 1 shot macros
>add 1 shot rotations
sounds about right
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>>721140236
actually this single-button rotation will out-dps like 75% of players
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>>721135407
You can macro it to include those skills and it WILL integrate them properly. Meaning it was originally designed to use everything but Blizzard took those out but didn't do it completely.
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>>721140006
TRVKE
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>retail WoW adds single-button assist
>despite it nerfing your gcd it's still doing better dps than most players

>classic WoW adds hardcore mode
>despite vanilla being piss easy most players are unable to even make it to 60 without dying in completely avoidable and embarrassing ways

This shit is honestly amazing. Props to the WoW devs to adding fraud alerts to both versions of the game.
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>>721132834
And they say TORtanic is too casual...
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>>721136969
It's true though. The biggest flaw of the single-button assist is it doesn't account for all the mechanics happening around you, so sims end up propping up it's numbers way higher than they actually are.
>aimed shot
>b-but I have to move out of the fire
>aimed shot
>I HAVE TO MOVE I CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW
>aimed shot
>FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>aimed shot
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I don't play wow, how is this any different than using any macro software like ahk, synapse or ghub?
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You can get an autohotkey rotation like a real human being or just run a plain bot
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>>721141191
How is that different from being unable to aimed shot manually/
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>>721141347
I think the plan long term is to nuke all addons and build their own versions of them
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>>721141372
Because when you are playing normally you just press another dps button while moving around. The 1 button assist however is... 1 button. So it will get you stuck on hardcast spells when you cannot currently do them because of mechanics.
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>>721132834
So the one-button mode is a DPS loss that varies by spec, ranging from around 10% (destruction Warlock) to around 35% (outlaw Rogue / enhancement Shaman) vs someone playing optimally without it.
While I don't mind it as an accessibility option for the few players out there with like 1 fuckin arm or missing fingers or whatever, most regular wow players are so fucking dogshit at the game that one-button mode will out-damage them.
It is actually pretty useful if I'm just grinding out M+ 10s for filling vault or looking for specific loot and want to be lazy tho.
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>>721141716
It's way more than just a 10% dps loss when doing actual content instead of running sims.
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>>721141571
>Because when you are playing normally you just press another dps button while moving around
Like the 1 button assist does already? Do you think it's like a castsequence where it gets stuck trying to hardcast 1 spell over and over?
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you dont understand, the dadgamer with 5 kids and a busy job as assistent to the middle manager down at the business factory cant be expected to press buttons when he is playing his video games
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>>721141716
real world dps by the average player is way way worse than 35% less than theoretical max on a patchwerk fight. the trouble is that a large percentage of the population will actually see a significant dps increase just spamming this button while doing content.
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>>721141571
so just make a second button for when you are moving and not just tunnelling dps?
it's weird how the 1button macro has outed people as even bigger retards than blizzard even intended for the users of it. like people who say its bad for healer and tank because it doesn't heal and tank for you. jesus christ. when if anything its even better on them because it just cleans up 5 extra hotkeys for your shitty dps anyway.
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DPS is a fucking meme
>get mechanic during cds
>assigned to something
>adds spawn in a bad position
>add blown up before you can pad
>no PI and aug buffs
>boss dies just before cds are back up
enjoy losing up to 4 mil dps
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>>721140750
if you post on /v/, you are likely a more "serious" gamer than the vast vast majority of the gaming population. wow in particular is infested with the 30-something guy who started the game as a kid/teenager, and who over time has developed a relationship with the game where it becomes his comfort food. it's the same as people endlessly rewatching their favourite show. it's known, it's comfortable. they are NOT looking for a challenge or new experiences in any way.
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>>721140151
You can just, you know, not use it
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>>721141779
>Like the 1 button assist does already?
No it doesn't. It doesn't check if you're moving and try to use instant cast spells, it'll just sit there failing to hardcast something over and over.
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i used to raid with a group of some absolutely terrible players
i later learned they all met in some physical rehab facility and all had various problems
i guess that's what this is intended for
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>>721140006
Sad but true
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>>721142206
Your fault for not timing your cooldown usage around the mechanics
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>learn your rotation
>learn boss mechanics and when to use CDs

Most WoW players will just say "no" to these two ideas and hope the rest of the raid can carry them to the end.
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>>721133092
>it's not an accessibility option
It literally is. My hands are shot and I decided to try it on a whim and it helps a lot with pain and longevity.
>it's better than 75% of players
Doesn't matter since 75% of players never set foot in any content harder than a heroic dungeon. An F1 driver is faster than a grandma in a wheelchair and taking away the wheelchair makes no sense.
>it screams how bad the game is actually designed that it encourages macros (or can be macro'd) to begin with
It's a mega casual MMO from 2004 what do you expect? Anyone playing WoW and expecting and kind of skill or challenge is lying to themselves.
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>>721132981
Agreed it's good, people with disabilities can join in easier.
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>>721132981
True, just make it pve exclusive and thats it
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>>721142580
Your use case is the ideal one. Helping people with disabilities is the goal. For me the trouble starts, when the average players starts feeling pressured to just spam this button, rather than actually pressing his different skills. He wants to press his different buttons, but the autocast thingy just does more damage and his shitty guild is wiping on the boss.
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>>721132834
If you’ve played wow for just a few years at literally any point of its lifetime, you know that the 0.2sec extra cooldown will go away in a few patches. They are experts at easing in casualization of the game. such experts in facts that these gamer dads who’ve been playing wow since vanilla still think the game is as hardcore as vanilla.
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>>721142807
I think thats why they added the 20% nerf. Unless you suck at the game, this button wont really help you. And if you do suck at the game I don't think you would feel shame in using this.
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>>721142807
You need to realize that that 75% stat includes EVERYONE who is playing the game, not just people who are like, actually trying. If you have absolutely any goddamn clue what you're doing you're going to out-DPS the button, especially since on casters it can't handle movement and will just keep trying to hard cast something while you're running.
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>>721142847
>vanilla
>hardcore
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>>721142460
there is a difference between delaying a cd by 30 seconds for amp phase and losing 2 potential uses because you want to ignore all mechanics only for pad adds to die instantly anyway
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>>721143060
And in both cases you can solve the problem by properly timing your cooldowns
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>>721133941
The button also does a more optimal rotation than whatever bullshit bad players use.
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>>721133092
seems more like the playerbase is dogshit if such a tool outdoes 75% of it
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>>721142847
>as hardcore as vanilla.

i might have believed this back in 2019, but man classic really showed us all our asses on this take.
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>>721143116
your """solution""' gets you a blue parse at best
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>>721133941
alot of people just login to do easy content mindlessly, some pvp, then they pay boosters to get the cosmetics from raids/achieves before season ends.
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>>721143196
If that gets you a blue parse, that means other people on your class are doing it better which means you did it incorrectly.
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Complicated rotations aren't fun and even the people who defend them are doing it out of elitism and not because they actually like them.
No spec should have a rotation more complex than 1-2-3 + cooldowns with some abilities getting swapped contextually for AoE
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>>721132981
I think cripples should be treated like the 2nd class citizens that they are
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>>721142883
>>721142940
Trouble is that even if you say that using the autocast is 35% worse than a player doing a "theoretically" correct rotation, the reality is that many players probably do like 45%+ less damage than the theory max. I legit think many average players will see significant DPS gains just spamming this tool over what they used to do, and that's a problem.
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>>721132834
Wokeshit so thoroughly hollowed out that company it's crazy
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You lose a lot of DPS by enabling this
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>>721132981
They should just play games they're capable of playing, of which there are many.
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>>721143223
no it means they got PI and aug buffs and didnt have to move during cds which they pop instantly on 99% of the fights and the pad adds werent killed before they can touch them
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>>721143223
It's amazing how confidently retarded you are
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>>721143276
This anon is correct. Rogue, which should be one of the most popular classes from fantasy alone, is one of the least played because of how fucked up their rotation is.
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>>721134915
In a perfect world, yes. In practice, it cuts human reaction time, input latency and network latency out of the equation and swaps it for a flat 200ms, which is better than a lot of humans can do.
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>>721143527
>rogue popular fantasy class
what the fuck are you talking about. popular fantasy classes are mage first then paladin and druid.
hunter rogue and whatever are not fantasy classes.
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>>721143704
The stealthy thief assassin characters are always popular.
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>>721143704
>druid
Anon, you're drunk, go home.
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>>721143527
Ah yes the fantasy of being invisible and doing nothing expect you are also a pirate
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>>721143793
sure it's a popular class, but it's not a fantasy. it has no magic no nothing. you can shove it in any medival setting like assassin creed and make it work.
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>>721143912
it's one of the primary dnd classes
thief was a class in the first final fantasy game
what are you fucking talking about?
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>>721143704
>rogue and whatever are not fantasy classes
thief was a class in the d&d since 1978
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>>721143963
>muh dnd
nobody gives a shit gramps
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the goal here is threefold for blizzard:
>accessability for people with disabilities
>move the game in a direction where you can with a controller in order to enter the console market
>spend less resources on fine tuning gameplay systems and class mechanics, since you can just refer people to the single button rotation if they complain that a class roation is ass or overcomplicated
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>>721143963
>>721143968
do you guys just not know what fantasy means in literature?
people like to image themselves as rogues sure, but that still doesn't make rogue a fantasy concept. magic, deities that give you power, transforming into animals, those are fantasy concepts.
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>>721144129
Turning invisible is most definitely a fantasy concept you fucking tard.
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>>721143912
in wizardry thiefs are actually casters. they just get level 2 spells of both mage and priest spells so they get lots of utility.
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>>721144129
they tried doing that with sub by giving it shadow magic and abilities but then they also made it a gay shinobi (not a cool shinobi)
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>>721144129
I think it's you who doesn't know what fantasy means in literature
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>>721142543
>You have to read a guide on how to play the game instead of just playing the game naturally
WOW players are brain broken faggots. What other game expects you to spoil and study it before you even play it?
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>>721142206
Kek found the grey parser
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>>721133596
Great. WoW was always MMO but for retarded normies, just as blizzard itself was gaming but for retarded normies.
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>>721143276
I've never seen the appeal of having to play a class rotation minigame on top of everything else happening in a fight
Modern wow just seems to abuse information overload and call it difficulty
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>>721143793
You say that but rogues in wow are not stealthy/thief type at all. 98% of their time is spent out of stealth
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>>721143276
It's a tab targeting mmo for fucks sake, it's the least they can do to make you fucking interact with it!
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>>721132981
>I never find accessibility options to be a joke.
Its not an accessibility option. Its a "skip gameplay"-button.
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>>721144038
All fantasy games are based loosely off dnd retard
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>>721144350
Yeah man, I'm just totally maxed out pressing frostbolt! I couldn't possibly handle anymore!
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>>721132834
So what's the problem this will make 99% of wow's players better at the game.
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>>721144413
N O B O D Y cares
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>>721143483
>no counter argument
imagine my shock
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>>721144390
The best parts of WoW were always the social aspect, the leveling and open world and being able to immerse yourself in the Warcraft world. And dungeon crawling but until mythic dungeons came along you could sleepwalk through most of them and just goof off. Only poopsockers and tryhards cared about rotations and damage meters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjmJCy1ksYY
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>>721144408
You know I think the thing that bugs me most about this is if you could magically project a chair for the handicapped in midair, it wouldn't have wheels. It'd just be a normal chair. Because it's floating.
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>>721132834
>RS3 revolution but somehow even shittier
A feat only blizzard could accomplish.
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>>721144408
As others have noted in this thread - and has the recent Silksong drama have shown us - there are a lot of casuals who dont buy into the idea that they should have to "git gud" to experience a game. WoW in particular has a lot of burned out middle aged players, who treat the game as their comfort food and something they use to chill and de-stress.
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>>721133085
playing wow should be considered a disability
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You are not disabled
You do not need 1 button rotation

You are a fucking useless shitter retard moron.
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>>721132834
My friends tried this a bit and said it doesn't even give you an optimal rotation.
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>>721133941
>you really telling me people in this game can't hit five buttons in a rhythm consistently while walking around?

Yes, That's exactly what he's telling you.
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>>721144496
Can you say anything else or is that too much to ask? Don't stress yourself
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>it's better than most people by default
Uh oh classicandies outing themselves
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>>721133085
This is what happens when people use "being good at video games" as substitute for personality, real life achievements and basis fo self-esteem.
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>>721144556
>there are a lot of casuals who dont buy into the idea that they should have to "git gud" to experience a game.
Game devs should never listen to them. Its like rollercoaster designers listening to Karens who don't want any heights or drops in rollercoasters. At that point you're no longer making a rollercoaster, you're making a monorail.
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>>721144778
Classicandies would be the ones USING 1-button assist, since they normally play a game with a 1 button rotation anyway. It's the retail "veterans" who are upset that the 1-button thing outed them as frauds.
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>>721144284
I'm so glad I no longer play mmos and never have to worry again about possible ostracization over what number i get on a website
Or dealing with the job application simulator that is finding mythic+ groups
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>>721144926
And said karens outnumber thrillseekers. All is not lost though. I'm sure a subset of WoW devs can just leave the company, start over and make their own MMO. They could call it Wildstar or something... oh wait.
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>>721132834
>being a wowtroon in 2025
you deserve this
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>>721143352
Yes, for Blizzard. Turns out video games primary purpose supposed to be light-hearted entertainment and not create artificial virtual careers.
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>>721136042
Shadowlands saw a surge in RBG and arenas but not for the reasons you think it did. Shadowlands reintroduced PvP vendors and Versality, while being considered a PvP stat, was still somewhat useful in PvE.

Optimal way to gear up a Holy Paladin for M+ was the following:
> Buy an arena boost to 1800 rating to unlock 220 ilvl for PvP gear. Do NOT touch arenas for the rest of S1.
> Do enough RBGs via pugs to unlock 3 slots from Great Vault, dont even bother trying to win, your 3v3 boosted arena rating will not drop.
> Cap out Conquest points
> Wait till tuesday morning
> Go to Great Vault
> Pick the most expensive Conquest Gear from 3 avaiable options
> Buy cheaper pieces from Vendor
> Use stockpiled honor points to upgrade vendor piece to 220 ilvl
> Congratulations, You now have 2x 220 ilvl gear pieces per week while highest ilvl gear is 226 from Mythic Castle Nathria

a 220 ilvl Kyrian Holy Paladin decked out in Haste/Versality gear would get instantly invited to +15 keys.

Do you think it's a coincidence that Blizz forced 1 arena win/week in order to be able upgrade PvP gear in S2?
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>>721132834
Proof that only brain damaged retards and degenerates play MMOs
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>>721144705
You never use this unless you're actually disabled or a turbo noob
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>>721132981
I don't want more disabled people playing multiplayer games. It is already really bad.
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>>721135254
> there are people hitting 2200-2400 rating with the one button rotation
You mean experienced 2.4k+ glads in a team with other multiglads?
>in solo shuffle
kys
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Why did the MMO genre actually die? We all thought they were the future 20 years ago
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>>721146283
Where is the semen meter?
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>>721144539
It has to be a wheelchair because that's the holy symbol of disability
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>>721132967
>>>/vt/ranny.
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>>721145987
Some people are simply missing fingers
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>>721146283
WoW opened the floodgates for retards and became popular because of it and every ceo saw that money and cloned MMOs for retards (WoW) thats why its dead
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>>721146203
Why are you talking to yourself?
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>>721146283
>Why did the MMO genre actually die?
It didn't. MMOs are just notoriously expensive to support, and only a few companies can produce a large amount of content in order to keep players satisfied. In addition to that, MMO requires long-term investment from a player, which is too much to ask for most players. In addition to that, playing MMO means playing the same game all the time—you will sooner or later get tired of it, and only players that really like to play that type of game remain. The initial MMO boom was produced by the insane success of World of Warcraft; many tried to reproduce it, but only a few managed to profit from it in the long term. Blizzard seems to be one of the few companies that are capable of keeping up with their players.
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>>721146605
im not
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>>721146283
>oh, you play wow too!! so cool! lets play together
>what faction are you on? i'm alliance
>i'm horde
>oh
>what server are you on? i'm on x
>i'm on y
>oh
>what level are you? i'm level 55
>i'm level 30
>oh
>okay, i got to level 60, paid for a faction change and a server transfer.
>great! make sure you have pre bis and bring consumables and are a class my raid actually needs and you pass the application process on our guild website and read/watch the strategy guides for every boss and can attend every single raid three nights a week and do enough dps or hps to not get benched
>can we just play league of legends together instead?
>sure!
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>>721132834
based? total zoomer death
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>>721145169
>And said karens outnumber thrillseekers.
Those same karens don't spend money on rollercoasters, thrillseekers spend money on riding rollercoasters.
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>>721144408
>my entire gameplay is something that can be macrod
lmao kill yourself
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>>721146864
>playing with friends
cringe
>making new friends in mmos
based and XI pilled
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>>721146952
>QTEs are intricate video game design.
Tranny detected.
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>>721146283
I think a key contributing factor to their downfall is the replacement of long term grinds with daily or weekly chores, making people compelled to log in and play, rather than playing whenever they feel like, which causes burnout
>>721146864
It doesn't have to be like that, it's not a problem in Runescape, for example. Though one drawback of that is you don't get the same server community experience
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>>721134520
yes and runescape runs on like 2hz. doesnt matter that much unless its a shooter or fighting game
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>>721146283
The majority of players don't/can't raid and even the ones that do get bored of it after one or two expansions.
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>>721146813
>The initial MMO boom was produced by the insane success of World of Warcraft
jesus christ shut the fuck up WoW did not invent mmos and they were better before you retards started shitting up the place
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>>721146864
Yeah that was a big problem back in the day. So many times I met someone irl on online and asked to play only to find out we were on opposite sides of a digital canyon.
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>>721132834
>You're not a real gamer
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>>721147292
>WoW did not invent or inspire anything
>WoW made everything worse because everything else copied it
Which one is it you browser MMO playing browns?
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>>721147686
both are true you projecting brown faggot
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>Been using Hekili for over ten years
>No fucking idea how to play my class, just hit the buttons it lights up
>Easily do top DPS consistently, only thing I do know is when to activate my cooldowns
>People around me shit on the one button rotation
>Too awkward to tell them about my own UI
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I don't have any problem with this; you used ot be able to do the same thing with UI addons. Hell FFXIV literally has this feature only for PVP for some goddamn reason. In WoW, you could run a lot of the
>Flash the button of the next ability for optimal DPS and/or puts up a guide/timeline saying what to do next
addons or depending on the current ruleset for the API
>Swaps the actual button to the next desirable ability
>Player created macro imported that has Ability_1, wait GCDlength, Ability_2, wait, etc

Blizz just formalized it and put a slight GCD penalty on it. There's literally no downside to this being available
>Noobs and others who don't study optimal rotations or whatever the fuck can contribute easier and the rest of the group/raid don't need to shout about meters faggotry all the time. Those who have some actual accessibility issue can just use this instead of a complex series of macros or addons.
>This will always be less performant than a player running the same rotation manually, so no need to bitch. Also, this teaches the users the manual sequence so they ca do it manually if they wish and want that faster GCD
>Does not 'threaten' PVP, Mythic, Raids etc
Lets not get bent out of shape over this shit that makes something slightly less tedious, puts a floor in place to stop shit play fucking up everyone else, and also has safeguards to ensure that manual usage isn't outmoded
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>>721132981
excellent bait
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>>721143276
Shut the fuck up and die xivnigger. You ruined your own game, don't ruin others.
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>>721146864
or
>you wanna start playing wow together?
>sure
>okay
>plays together
why are you overcomplicating nonsense?
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>>721144408
I thought Jaina had a binky for a second
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>>721133092
nothing wrong about being reliant on macros.
making macros is super fun.
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>>721144350
>this thing that creates difficulty isnt actually difficulty
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>>721142206
almost as if being a DPS is about doing damage and mechanics according to the fight and not ranking on some tranny site nobody actually cares about
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>>721140750
Its a moronic post.
Of course a one button rotation will outperform people when content is designed to make it actually hard to keep your rotation up properly while managing boss mechanics.

And of course people will die in a game that was literally never built with hardcore in mind and which specifically expects you to die in stupid ways a lot. As a matter of fact vanilla WoW was designed with some of the least punishing death on purpose.

Both extremely predictable outcomes you retard.
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>>721150809
>nobody actually cares about
its actually the very first thing and often the only thing they look at
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>>721132981
ina would never agree with this btw she would shit down your throat for even coming at her with this casual shit in mmos, she's definitely crashed out because of people in her static fucking up a mechanic for the 40th time
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>>721146283
It never did the turnover rate on players just accellerated at the same time the lowest impact population fell into their phone.
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>>721138702
So why are you there?
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>>721132834
step and go
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>>721132981
It's fine as long as i get an addon that notifies me when someone is using it so i can kick them from the raid group
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>>721142206
>boss dies
Good job anon, nothing else matters
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>>721132981
if this was an accessibility option then it wouldn't have a penalty for using it.
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>>721143309
If i was a cripple i would be mad at Blizzard for adding magic wheelchairs, people want to play a game to be a badass not to be handled like a baby.
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>>721132834
>>721132981
>Bloat the game with a gazillion skills and million button rotations
>Go full 180° and Make a single button rotation
For fucks sake just give me back my simple 3-4 skill rotation with the occasional extra skill to deal with special situations. It's the sweetspot where it is engaging enough to not be boring, but simple enough that i can casually voicechat with the Guild.
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>>721147292
>WoW did not invent mmos and they were better before you retards
nigger you are so old your brain doesn't work anymore
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I hate rotations on a fundamental level, they only exist because the gameplay wasn't engaging enough in a raid setting. Players needed extra busywork to entertain themselves while large groups of other players do most of the work for them. WoW was never supposed to be about raiding, it was initially designed as an RPG where leveling and dungeons were the main focus, raiding was literally an afterthought.
In solo/smaller group play you don't need rotations to keep busy, the situational abilities you bring to the group becomes much more valuable and each player more integral and important. That's the direction they should have went, the one button rotation is a step in the right direction.
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PoM => BUMP
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>>721133085
if you cannot press 2 3 4 5 then you need a different hobby. don't ruin mine.
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>>721163024
Why press 2 3 4 5 for no reason when you could be pressing only 2 for the same outcome?
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>>721156198
based world first raider
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>>721133092
>it's better than 75% of players
So 75% of players are retarded then? That still makes it an accessibility option.

When I'd tried it, it didn't use CDs at all let alone at the right time, didn't prioritize aoe/st at correct times, didn't interrupt or pop defensives, so it's useless for anyone other than literal disabled people or noobs doing bottom of the barrel content. Only thing it was really neat for was healers who don't want to worry about their dps cooldowns at all.
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did anything interesting happen with Follower Dungeons?
can you get special and rare followers for instance?
is it still just normal mode dungeons?
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>>721132834
why is there a penalty at all
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>>721163172
Because we purposefully didn't have single button rotation helpers this good by design for 20 years straight, and it's still not good enough to get anywhere near a real high IQ player in real gameplay scenarios that aren't mimicking a target dummy, even if there was no haste penalty.
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>>721132834
doesn't it drop your dps by 10 - 20%? so even if you use an optimal rotation your damage is worse?
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>>721164384
What if it could?
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>>721134915
On top of every other reply it also lets people focus on where they are standing. Amazing I know but most WoW players GENUINELY cannot DPS and move at the same time, and most raids have you moving 90% of the time. The ability to just focus on where you are standing while your character does the dps makes it dramatically better than people.

Its all very stupid. Instead of redesigning combat to be good, they've introduced autoplay and built in dps charts. Completely backwards game design.
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>>721160324
Yes but the people who run Blizzard =/= the people who made Blizzard. They dont like or care for WoW.
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>>721163024
You and your misbegotten kind were the one complaining about rotations being too easy at the tail end of original WotLK. You're the one who ruined my hobby. You're experiencing a Reconquista.
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>>721143309
Anyone saying dumb stuff like this should remember that it's a group anyone can join for free at any time. Be glad you are healthy, you did nothing to be born that way, and your fate may yet take it away.
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>>721164341
To placate proffesional e-sporters less they shit their diapers.
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>>721152429
I enjoy a company of likeminded people.
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>>721132834
One of the reasons that game turned into woke shit.
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>2025
>99% Games still has no button remapping

Fuck you



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