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The sanctity of this board has been fouled
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>Warrior became the Dark Wanderer
>Mage became the Summoner
>Rogue became Blood Raven

I never played D3 but apparently the only class that didn't eat shit in the end was the Necromancer?
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I was told warrior is the worst character, but he has the highest attack speed and doors + firewall eliminate the risk of getting swarmed.
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>>721135580
The warrior is solid if you find a good weapon. I think the sorcerer is the worst character until you get mana shield then he's great.
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>>721135812
Sorcerer is easy mode if you're good at this kind of games.
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>>721136225
I play this game hardcore with no adria scumming and sorcerer dies all of the time until you get mana shield since it's inefficient to waste points on vitality. I'd much rather play as a warrior. One time I kicked a barrel with a sorc and it died instantly with full health.
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>>721137285
No idea what adria scumming is. I've played it safely like I'd be playing Sorceress or Necromancer in D2. The game became a bit harder when proper demons and such started appearing but just having all kinds of spells to kill things with from a distance is a massive improvement over going into melee.
I've unfortunately missed the original back in the day.
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>>721137492
Adria scumming is when you reload the game until she gives you the books that you want. I think sorcerer sucks if you play the game hardcore unless you get lucky with an early mana shield staff or book. If you reload when you die, then yeah he's good.
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>>721135580
starts off as the strongest, ends up as the weakest
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>>721137635
Of course I reloaded a few times because I didn't know about abilities of some monsters. I don't remember mana shield at all. Been some years. I'll go look at what spells are in the game I guess.
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>>721137987
Mana shield allows you to use your mana pool as your health pool so you can just dump every point into energy. It's amazing for sorcerer and eventually makes him either the strongest character or the second strongest one depending on your preference. I still prefer a rogue with a good bow. She destroys everything with one and she's pretty decent at magic, too. If you play hardcore, she's easy mode.
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dead rogue
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>>721137635
Pretty sure I was getting by with just Charged Bolt and Firebolt for the most part because of how spammable they are. Possibly adding Holy Bolt later. The only high-level spell I remember is Apocalypse because I got it on a staff near the end, tried it and while it was cool I basically won by that point. I guess I might as well play the game again now that I don't remember it very well.
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>>721135575
you never meet the necromancer himself but his apprentices are present and they say he's still alive. the sorceress is dead, confirmed in the story if you're a wizard. druid went crazy iirc. the barb is the same dude. paladin is MIA. amazon is also MIA, but her monastery is mentioned as to having been destroyed by malthael
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>>721138112
So just like the one for Sorceress. I'm not sure I had it but it's not like I'd benefit much from it. Aside from bullshit instant kill surprises from some monsters I just stayed away and fired magical projectiles at enemies. Almost never getting hit isn't really difficult in D1 until you get to succubi and then you just need to outdo them at positioning which isn't too difficult either because they just swarm you despite staying at range too.
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Diablo is completely unmatched in atmosphere by the sequels. Even Diablo 2 can't compete in atmosphere, even if it's the better game in most other ways.
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>>721138521
I also prefer the lack of timed respawning compared to D2.
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>>721138364
I died too many times on the early levels playing hardcore so I have a bias against him lol. It's not like the game forces me to play that way since it's not actually an official mode. I feel like the warrior with a fast weapon, good res, and a lot of health can't really be stopped by anything but you have to get lucky with the drops. The sorcerer also has terrible hit recovery and if you don't get the arkaine valor quest, it can be really rough even with mana shield since you get stunlocked constantly if you ever get surrounded.
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>>721138431
>the barb is the same dude
They confirmed the barb isn't the same dude, even though it would have been cool and wouldn't have caused any continuity errors.

>paladin is MIA
Paladin died, you find his grave in D4.
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>>721135304
>Diablo 1, a wonderful videogame that makes treasure precious with permanent stat raising potions, useful shops, and buying multiple spellbooks to improve your spells
>Every other ARPG after makes gold utterly meaningless and turns into infinite grind shit instead of being a game you play for 10-20 hours and win and then start a new character
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>>721138646
i never touched D4. and its like 50 years later so thats not too surprising anyway
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>>721138521
>Even Diablo 2 can't compete in atmosphere
I think Diablo 2 has bretty gud atmosphere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI4iHTR_FUM&list=RDGI4iHTR_FUM&start_radio=1
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1bsTHzpcSY
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>>721138710
No I mean Paladin died like right after D2. I think he was guarding some temple that Mephisto corrupted and you fight his ghost. I haven't played D4 since launch though so I might be getting some details wrong.

>>721138713
Hey I'm not shitting on D2's atmosphere, I know it's amazing. I just think atmosphere is the one thing D1 did better than D2.
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>>721138586
I think it's just save+exit that respawns shit in D2.
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>>721139007
I think D1's itemization and its approach to loot is better than D2's infinite grind. That's not a knock against D2. I love the grind in that game but there is something really satisfying about being reliant upon finite drops. You have to make do with what you can buy from the shops and monster drops since monsters cannot be farmed in D1 without starting a totally new game. Also, every blue item that drops in D1 can potentially be the best item that you've ever found. Blues are shit in D2 that you totally ignore with a few exceptions.
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Now you know why they banned me, Marius.
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>>721138713
He wrote "even" which means he already considers D2 very good.
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>>721135304
This game is infinitely better than d2
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>>721139070
Yes, but the gradual respawning as you play in D2 is worse. I never really liked it in D2 because they just pop into existence just outside of your vision which never wasn't gay in any game ever. Add portals, holes or whatever from which they get inside your artificially walled game world. And ideally means of plugging those holes. Eventually they just become annoyances so you'll want to stop the respawning. Bonus points for preventing the farming mentality of appearing.
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>>721139295
The only people I know IRL who say that unironically are people that fucked up their build in D2 so bad that they couldn't beat the game
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>>721139347
I don't think that happens in D2 lol
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Diablo 1 is awesome I just wish there was a proper high res mod that doesn't fuck with the games balance.
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>>721139347
>Yes, but the gradual respawning as you play in D2 is worse. I never really liked it in D2 because they just pop into existence just outside of your vision which never wasn't gay in any game ever.

This never happens in D2 unless you're fighting a monster that can revive his allies. Monsters are spawned when you make a new game. They don't "gradually respawn."
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>>721138254
what would you do with a dead rogue?
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>>721139415
devilutionx is the mod that you're looking for. The only "rebalance" that it has is that it adds monster regeneration. It's basically just a high res mod that makes the game slightly harder.
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>>721139389
I think it was the case in one of the versions but maybe. There is definitely respawn on area cleanup like on save and exit or in some other cases. It unloads areas from memory eventually and when you re-enter they get respawn too. The cooldown for despawnable items is probably the same that respawns monsters too.
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>>721139594
>monster HEALTH regeneration
I meant to say if that wasn't obvious. It doesn't respawn monsters
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>>721138646
>Paladin died, you find his grave in D4.
lmao, ANYTHING to not put Paladin in D4.
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>>721139246
Wtf was his damn problem?
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>>721139463
It's lack of sleep getting to me. It's the thing when you transition to an area which was unloaded and so as you enter it again afterwards things spawn which looks kinda like that.
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>>721139641
You're a clueless idiot making shit up. Monsters are respawned when you make a new game. That's it. You can easily clear a zone, leave the game afk for hours, and then go back to the zone and the monsters will still be dead.
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>>721139525
is that ram man?
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>>721139594
huh all I could find last time was the Belzebub mod which is pretty stupid in how much it changes. Though I don't remember the boss healthbar being like this though.
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>>721139641
>There is definitely respawn on area cleanup like on save and exit or in some other cases. It unloads areas from memory eventually and when you re-enter they get respawn too. The cooldown for despawnable items is probably the same that respawns monsters too.
Yes, everyone knows that.
>I think it was the case in one of the versions but maybe.
No, lol.
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>>721139349
Nah, I've beaten it countless times even on Hell. It's not a bad game at all, its just that Diablo 1 is full of soul and designed more like an actual Rogue/Dungeon Crawler inspired game than a mob mowing simulator.
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>game 1
You're a guy descending a dilapidated castle to defeat an evil demon
>game 3
You're the CHOSEN ONE ASCENDING into HEAVEN to fight OVERSATAN and stop the end of ALL REALITY
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>>721139841
Yeah it adds a few GUI changes but it doesn't mess with the balance unless you consider being able to shift click potions into your belt like Diablo 2 a balance change. There aren't a bunch of new monsters, skills, and items and shit like Belzebub added.
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>>721140137
Fortunately only D1 and D2 are canonical.
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>>721140137
I was about to tell you that the Warrior was Prince Aidan but that was also D3 fucking around with the lore.
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You've told the world what you hate about it, but what did you LIKE about it?
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I wanna play Diablo but I haven't touched it since I was a kid. So Rogue is good? Get a bow and level vit and dex?
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>>721140262
its the best game in the series now to play single player. the tal rasha playstyle is my favorite arpg playstyle ever
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>>721140262
I liked that it made people realize how shit Blizzard is
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>>721140262
Kormac
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>>721140378
Dark magic bars our way
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>>721140262
the only good thing that can be said about Diablo 3 and 4 is they made people realize Blizzard made other products besides WoW, which means at least a small group of players that had not heard of Diablo have now played and enjoyed Diablo 1 and 2 and recognized their superiority over anything that came afterward
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>>721140378
Kormac for hots
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>>721140262
I liked how the monster corpses flew around
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>>721140262
I liked how whirlwind felt in it and there was a bit more to do during the end game than in Diablo 2. Outside of that, it doesn't do anything better than D1 or D2. I liked the weighty feel of the combat more in D2 and the atmosphere and itemization in D1 more.
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>>721140481
Lol that was me in high school. I replay the first two every year back to back. Comfy fucking games.
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>>721140262
Probably the smoothest isometric gameplay before or since. It just "feels" good in a way that's hard to quantify without having played it yourself. Also corpse ragdolls like >>721140564 idk why more aprgs don't do ragdolls that shit is funny.
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>>721140262
I like witch doctor, both cool when male and sexy as female. It's also kind of fun when a set all comes together but it's basically just mindless bullshit.
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Is D4 still shit? No I didn't buy the expansion and only did the campaign once.
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>>721140262
The cutscenes, especially the fight between Tyrael and Imperius
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>>721142424
Imperius was the coolest and most based thing to come out of the nu-Diablos. Too bad he had terminal jobberitis
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>>721139671
>lmao, ANYTHING to not put Paladin in D4.
always keeping a brothah down
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>>721138668
>Every other ARPG after makes gold utterly meaningless
I distinctly remember every playthrough of Diablo ending with the townsquare covered in gold piles.
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>>721142424
>You cannot judge me. I am justice itself!
Eeeeeh.
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>>721139295
They're simply radically different games
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>>721142568
Truth.
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>>721142679
Shieeeet, at least we have Last Epoch.
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>>721138713
Stamina bar aside D2 was basically a step up in every aspect.
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I gotta pawn some of this shit!
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Is it worth doing a warrior run of Diablo 1? Only time I finished the game was with my cousin, when he was a near useless warrior and I did most of the killing as the sorcerer.
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>>721138668
technically you can gamble for uniques with gold, but it's not something people prioritize
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>>721143869
I think it's fun. It's NOT fun when you get to hell.
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>>721138254
Hey, this is Diablo 1 thread.
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>>721144872
ugh fine

slain hero
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>>721142568
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>>721145263
now post imperius offering you a fat blunt
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>>721145287
That doesn't sound like Imperius at all.
Side note, it saddens me how many Imperius players take the shield ult in Hots.
The grab is so much cooler
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>>721144738
It is if you have a fast weapon and good resists. Succubi and death knights didn't have shit on my warrior. Don't go two handed. That's a trap.
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>>721140262
Alright so I genuinely thought Bastion's Keep was really fucking cool.
Simple concept, maybe, but the entire act takes place in and around a massive fortress full of desperate soldiers being besieged by an endless tide of monsters. It's just cool.
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>>721142568
>non player character in a blizzard game
>male
I'm sorry it's terminal.
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>>721142568
He lives on in HotS, for what it's worth
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So he's going to come back as a demon, right,
His story is basically Lucifer.
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>>721140331
yeah
remember you can use magic and melee as well, rogues advantage early on is versatility and the option to use magic reasonably due to not having warriors shit cast speed.

Nothing is as strong as sorcerer endgame but all classes are easily hell/hell viable, and rogue being ranged click on things to kill is less hassle than warriors. You will be using chain lightning a lot as a high level rogue since its just the most powerful spell in the game.
Everyone gets all their attributes maxed to their class cap by like level 30 or so anyway since you can buy elixirs that raise them from the witch
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Reminder Malthael was 100% correct.
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>>721146705
So go for bows, but don't ignore magic. Thanks for replying.
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>>721142902
d1 had better atmosphere and i prefer it being about finding magic items with the best rolls than d2s item system of rares/set/unique (only a few uniques in d1 were any good)
i personally hate the way items change the very way your class plays in modern arpgs. in d1 the class dictates all despite there being no difference between them than maximum stat caps and some speed multipliers for various actions and you are just looking to upgrade your gear
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>>721146835
Reaper of Souls had a story? What was he right about?
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>>721138431
>>721135575

Retards.
Diablo 2 Necromancer outright shows up In Diablo Immortal.
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>>721146847
My rogue was so powerful that I didn't even bother with magic. She was fired her bow like a machine gun and everything died in two hits. You might not get a good bow drop, though.

I find magic in this game to be a hassle since so many enemies have immunities in the caves and hell. Switching spells constantly to dance around the immunities is annoying as fuck when I can just click on them with a bow and they die.
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>>721146835
Who?
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>>721146907
>Diablo Immortal
hao hao
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>>721146907
Nobody played Diablo Immortal. And what did they say that warranted being called retards? You didn't contradict anything they said.
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As a kid, I remember thinking the characters walking around doing their own thing in the camps was the most advanced shit I'd ever seen in a game for some reason.
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>>721147042
kinda miffed that Warriv didn't follow me into hell
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>>721147042
I remember thinking that Diablo 2 looked worse graphically than Diablo 1. It was all pixelated and the sprites looked worse.
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>>721146847
yeah magic really comes in handy in a pinch, the way chain lightning works is it shoots a bolt at every enemy, and the bolts penetrate. So if there is a huge clump of monsters all in one direction of you chain lightning hits all of them multiple times and it just wrecks. Clearing hordes with it is worthwile. Its even so good warriors could try it but i dont remember using chain lightning as a warrior back when i used to play., but you will be using bows to kill most things.
If you happen to find a shortbow of swiftness keep it, it becomes the best bow around level 40something since your rogue level and dex up the damage calculation to the point that the attack speed gives you better damage.
Other than that rogue is the class where unique weapons are actually good. windforce can just knockback stun diablo and eaglehorn is indestructible. Typically you try to use both of these as a rogue in the mid levels, eaglehorn to not worry about durability and windforce for bosses.

Also diablo on all difficulties is super weak to holy bolt and even warriors can simply stunlock him by chugging pots and spamming holy bolt. Its kind of an easteregg since nothing else in hell or the caves can be affected by holy bolt and most people think its only a low level spell to help newbies in normal cathedral or catacombs (by nightmare you wouldnt use it over other magic anyway)

Also remember hydra lets you scout ahead
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>>721146907
If you take hots as canon then Cassia (Amazon) went home after the destroyed Worldstone and trained the next generation of Amazons in prep for an apocalypse-level invasion, Azmodan style.
And Xul IIRC has an apprentice in D3 or something.
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>>721146835
Yeah but he had to be a retard about it, what're you gonna do?
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>>721139660
I'm fairly sure that exists in vanilla D1. Jarulf's guide fails to mention it but I shot arrows at a unique pack of spitters as a warrior for a LONG time and not one of them died.
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>>721147223
Monsters do not regenerate health in Diablo 1. That mod added it in specifically.
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>>721140331
imo don't touch vitality, use mana shield with anyone not warrior or barbarian
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>>721147257
Actually, I take this comment back. Apparently they do regen health but very slowly. I had to google it lol. The regen is pretty damn fast with that mod.
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>>721139594
That's a source port, though it does have some weird tweaks either for the autistic or for the most random of things. Exposed me to Hellfire though and goddamn does Hellfire suck.
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>>721147072
The quality of some sprites actually suffers a bit from the component system. The edges of the components aren't anti-aliased so continuous surfaces look rougher than they would be if they were rendered as a whole sprite
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>>721146847
Don't raise your chain lightning spell too high, though. The higher the spell level, the more lightning it shoots out. At some point and with enough enemies around, the game engine starts crapping itself from the sheer amount of effects, which causes gaps in the stream of lightning. Enemies standing in those gaps take no damage at all.
Or at least that's how it was when I played eons ago.
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>>721147572
>mfw scarabs in act 2 casting their own lightning on top of my own
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>>721147324
I still have my hellfire cd lol. I remember liking it as a kid but I think it's unnecessary nowadays.
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>>721144872
Waves upon waves of these ended my first run on D1 when I was a child. There was no way for me to close the distance before getting blasted by a gazillion of their orbs even when trying to kite them around a corner. My build was shite.

Good times.
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>>721147673
This was about the chain lightning spell from Diablo, not Diablo 2, though.
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>>721147324
Why yes, I play with hellfire, enable the bard and barbarian and always violently ignore the hive and crypt, how did you guess?
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max chain lightning, it makes it a lot stronger. You just have to make sure all enemies are bunched up in a single direction from you. Its main strenght comes from how this makes each enemy get hit by multiple bolts targeting other enemies as well. The problem with gaping mainly occurs when you are in the middle of a crowd and trying to shoot lightning off in all directions around you. That makes the spell useless, but at high levels you just teleport around and chain lightning, so for example teleport just over a wall and then any enemies are going to be on one side of you, then you can chain lightning them.
max cl and fireball and teleport around clearing with cl and fireballing anything lightning immune. for those immune to both stone curse and just summon a stone golem next to them or try to melee them down slowly, or if a rogue just shoot them with your bow
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>>721147263
What's the advantage of using magic over vitality for Rogue? Do you get more mana per magic point than hp per vitality?
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>>721139525
Open bob and vegen shout, and she spreads
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nova is amazing (if you have the gear for it)
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>>721148301
With mana shield you take less damage and it's all reduced from your mana instead. It lasts until you run out of mana or you leave the current dungeon floor. So it basically means you are using health as mana, and mana as health. You can just pump magic/mana to get "both" so to speak.
On the other hand, if not using MS, you can reserve your mana for spells. With MS, you're better off treating mana as health and never let it run out because that dispels it and makes you rely on your low life until recasting MS. With a no-vitality build, all life and vit increases are also useless, but for a character not using MS both vitality and magic are useful.
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>>721140709
In Titan Quest the more damage you do, the more force is applied to dead monster's body ragdoll. Little me was playing with cheats and they were flying all over the place, to the house roofs and other unaccessible areas.
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>>721140137
you think that's bad, they actually retconned the D1 guy into a chosen one too. you went from some schmuck to the prince of the kingdom.
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>>721140262
the shopkeepers had fun dialogue from what i remember. Shame about every single bit of story writing though.
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>>721138483
there's a mana shield glitch that prevents stun from enemy hits
>you're at 1 hp, mana shield up
>attacks would kill you so no stun animation, but you don't actually die you just lose mana
being unstunnable breaks the game
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>>721150252
I liked the "humanoid enemies use the loot they drop" mechanic in TQ. You'd see a goatman wearing a golden armour or a flaming sword and you'd know he'd drop some nice stuff.
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traps effects stacked, so you could slow every enemy to a crawl, do massive damage to them with caltrops... of course that was patched because it was simply too fun
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Y'know it occurs to me we are probably just a few timeline jumps away from getting a Diablo MMO instead of World of Warcraft. I wonder what that would have looked like
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>>721153952
Considering how blizz Irvine poached a ton of ideas and mechanics for wow from blizzard north, not too different from vanilla wow I'd wager
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>>721135304
Sorcerer voice is better
But what's with all the diablo threads? Not that I mind.
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>>721137492
>No idea what adria scumming is. I've
I sense a soul in search of answers.
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>>721153952
plot probably would've resembled D3 with player characters being "the nephilim" and angels and demons both hating you and trying to kill you. then you'd be able to faction up with either angels or demons as you quested.
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>>721135580
He can't reliably use mana shield, which is far and away the strongest spell. However all the characters I feel are well balanced. As long as you plan on chasing some fat succubus ass in Hell, you'll be fine.
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>>721147118
HotS is a better source of canon than Immortal as far as I'm concerned.
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I miss the intense focus of Diablo 1. No bloat mechanics. Everything feels like it is building towards you fighting and killing Diablo. No endgame grind. Enemies have just the right amount of AI variation. Spells coming from books. I love it.
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>>721158140
no one is forcing you to play diablo 2 and 3 endgame, you can simply stop playing once you finish the campaign. Diablo 2 is a expansion of Diablo I, basically a better version.

I feel like i've seen this post a couple of times already, not sure what's the point of repeating the same thing adnauseum, blizzard is owned by the chinese now and most of the team left already, go write a blog about it so you can copy paste the message for years to come.
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>>721144872
Were their tits always that big? That's approaching stripper levels, jesus
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I AM-
THERE IS-
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>>721135304
Dunn DuDu Dunn
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>>721158140
>No bloat mechanics
If you think D2 is bloated with mechanics then you're mentally ill.
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>>721158760
Muhahahahaha

I like the Hell theme more.
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>>721140137
Don't forget what they did to Leah, what were they smoking?
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>>721158389
>no one is forcing you to play diablo 2 and 3 endgame, you can simply stop playing once you finish the campaign
This. I seriously don't comprehend why MMO-minded people can't grasp such a simple concept. You can stop playing once you beat it or start a new character.
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>>721138646
The plan originally was to have the barb be the same guy from D2 but they nixed that when they added male and female versions of each class and realized that would no longer work
>>721138646
Where at, I don't remember coming across that when I played back at release
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>>721158873
Someone fucked their build up and is salty about it.
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Didn't Diablo 1 have an expansion? Why doesn't anyone talk about that
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>>721158429
that's where they store their blaster energy
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>>721139841
>Diablo 1: The Butcher is just a unique corruption of a man who used to cut meat but now carves up people. It is heinous, disgusting, and normal smallfolk don't stand a chance fighting such a beast! It's a unique monster only found in the monastery
>Later Diablos: le actually, Butchers are a class of hell monster. There's thousands of them found all over and Diablo 1's is not special!
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>>721147465
she has quite the cockguard
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>>721160075
It has a third party expansion, Hellfire. It's not good. All the art and sound assets are lower quality. The dungeons are just copy pasted from existing layout generation. Nothing relates to the original game.

>muh jogging in town!
get real
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>>721160075
hellfire, it wasn't that good
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>>721139415
What's that one mod that makes the game insanely hard? That one where one of the bosses before Diablo clones himself endlessly. I dropped it because I couldn't beat Diablo before the one hour deadline and he gets insanely strong after that.
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>>721135304
Question, i always to play a game with this graphics but not with that gameplay. Is there any game that looks like that but maybe jts more horror or more action adventure? Not just loot chasing.
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>>721162505
Yeah, Diablo 1.
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>>721162505
Diablo 1 was as much horror as can be kek
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I just ate a bunch of cheese out of the bag.

Grated cheese.
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>>721163339
Cheese is very high fat and high calories. Your toilet will soon be a scene out of the bowels of hell.
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>>721139689
His problem wasn't gaining strength, it was losing what was left of his humanity.
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>>721163481
The sanctity of my toilet will be fouled
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>>721162505
Then you want Diablo 1
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>>721135580
the problem is that blocking interrupts your attacks and later on when tough enemies gang up on you it becomes a real problem
the sorcerer is able to just teleport around and kill multiple groups of enemies with a single spell instead
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>>721163481
>he can't eat cheese without getting diarrhea
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>>721163536
It's curious that the side of Good's only tactic against the big Evils is to put it inside themselves and try to contain it for as long as they can before they are consumed. Like damn, Evil just is everlasting. And Evil doesn't need to do any of that shit against Good. Just kill or corrupt them. Not like Good and sway an Evil demon to the light.
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>>721158389
even just the story playthrough of D2 feels like a grind compared to D1
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>>721160680
>D3
>The butcher is back as an act boss! dude fresh meat!!
>D4
>The butcher is back as a nemesis invasion! fresh meat haha fresh meat!!!
I stongly wish this wasn't allowed.
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>>721160075
Hellfire was developed by a different dev team and is not worth playing
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>Cathedral block - Sound of woman screaming
>Catacombs block - Sound of woman moaning
>Caves block - Sound of woman breathing deeply
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>>721140262
Ragdoll physics, Leah was a CUTE, hirlings had fun personalities, Imperius was an aura farming machine, Azmodan had great presence, Cydaea had an awesome design as well though it must be said that the retarded devs were going to cut her until some chick did amazing cosplay of the character, some of the monsters like the mallet lords looked sick, grifts were a much better endgame grind then endless baal runs though that's certainly a low bar.
Otherwise it was shit.
Oh and Li-Ming = sex
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>>721164994
ENTER the paladin
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>>721140262
I liked the world events
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>>721163481
>Literally my bowels right now after eating four cheese ravioli last night
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>>721165196
I'm playing medieval 2 total war right now and my general just gave a speech about his bowels
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>>721158873
I love D2 but some characters have entire skill trees that are completely useless. Not even the synergy system could salvage it.
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>>721160075
It was fine, more like a medium-sized DLC instead of full expansion. The two areas (crypts and hive) were memorable enough.
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>>721164764
>until some chick did amazing cosplay of the character
That costume was fucking amazing
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>>721146541
That's what I was hoping for yeah, biblically accurate satan intead of a big stompy lizard. Dude could have broken out of Mephisto's rape dungeon and taken over hell before effectively spawncamping the other evils as they respawn and breaking them to his will. It's actually where I thought things were going when they showed concept art of Punished Andarial looking like she'd been subdued and bound.
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>>721140262
Set builds are fun to use.
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>>721164994
holy kino
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>>721159456
they could have just made the female his sister or something
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>>721137635
If you want to cheat you can just dupe a staff of apoc and stunlock everything to death including diablo.
Source: my 'legit' sp run when i was 10
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>>721163569
Avenge us! Find this Pooper and slay him so that our toilets may finally rest!
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>>721140262
Demon Hunter (female) sexy voice
Demon Hunter (female) mating press

also love how it made redditors seethe that it's a hot bitch and not a fat troon

(fun to play too but that's not as important)
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>>721135304
>You will never play Diablo for the first time again
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>>721166106
Your poops WILL be av-uhh-flushed
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I wish I didn't suck so bad but I owe Diablo giving me the idea of playing guitar
I picked up classical guitar because I wanted to learn Tristram, it's been a decade now
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>>721142679
The niggerest nog to ever nog, lookd like a cannibal with kuru from an 1800s cartoon
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>>721166446
have you learned it yet
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>>721166486
I mean it's pretty close to the source material
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>>721162505
I'm currently playing the Heretic remaster and it has a similar vibe
hard recommend, I'm having tons of fun with it
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>>721166601
I know that's probably a head-dress, but I can't not also see a broccoli 'bussn' cut.
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>>721164994
Whoah the original, I've only ever seen the wojak redraw. Speaking of which anyone got that I lost my folder :(
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fuck my chungus life
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>>721166497
Yeah a long time ago
I've been too lazy to record my cover but I will get to it eventually
It's super fun to play, just a bit tricky to make it sound similar to the original (since I have to use my fingers to create a similar effect to the delay)
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>>721158429
Theyre succubi
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>>721163764
Izual fucked everything up by telling the brothers about the soulstones so human bodies were needed to augment the sealing process. And the black soulstone was destroyed before it could be properly tested.
Real soulstones have never been tried.
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>still no game of co-op loot treadmill / dungeon crawler with flashy moves, spells and shit
>but action game combat either god of war or mordhau or anywhere in between

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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>>721167663
PoE?
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>>721145347
I played a match of HotS last weekend where I was Malthael and the enemy team had an Imperius. I went massacre/tormented souls build, which if you don't know, does a bunch of infinite duration persistent % max hp damage as well as giving you an extremely low cooldown teleport which also does aoe % max hp damage every time you do it as long as you stick next to enemy heroes. Imperius went choke slam ult. Every team fight I'd pop ult and teleport around burning down the enemy team but somehow he'd land his ult on me which for some reason just turns off my ult instead of just running down its duration. It's like he was taking me up to heaven and judging his fallen brother, constraining his power, and protecting his allies with his wrath. It was, dare i say, kino.
i still won and got top damage by a country mile. he had a diablo as his tank. that's what you get for allying with demons you fucker
Anyways, I'm replying to a 8 hour old post and no one will read this.
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>>721167663
MMOs, multiplayer ARPGs, Borderlands and I'm pretty sure Destiny is another loot treatmill FPS.
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>>721166826
SLASHED
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>>721164764
>Cydaea
I don't remember d3 at all. Who is this?
I remember I liked the mage hireling and the templar
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>>721167901
I always liked interactions between champions in HOTS, so your experience is pretty kino. HOTS is full of soul, it's a shame blizzard did its utmost to kill it.
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>>721163768
You just have shit taste. Sorry bro.
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>>721135304
Correct, we need to apply the recently popularized lead to neck treatment on the /pol/niggers that ruin our board with their nonvidya spam
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>>721168231
spider slut
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>>721167945
>multiplayer ARPGs
True some of these things like crimson desert and vindictus might be what I'm looking for, bit coomer but I'm not complaining
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>>721166009
What makes you think I want to cheat? I specifically said that I don't scum her books because I think it's cheesy.
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>>721166358
It's a vivid memory for me, I got it on a burned cd from my uncle and still remember having to uninstall duke nukem to make room for it on the hard drive. B.net was pretty cool too, effectively my first online chatroom experience and I'll never forget that one guy who told me how to trap the butcher and kill him with a bow.
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>>721166826
I feel you brother
>>721167957
at least he didn't get boned
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>>721168398
Randomly borrowed the PS1 version from my friend. Never heard of it before. Played it co op with my big bro. We got filtered by the Skeleton King. Also the first encounter with the Butcher, we still quote him to this day. Pure fucking kino
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>>721168398
I played it solo before I ever touched D1 online as a kid
I think I played a Warrior and remember getting freaked out by the Butcher. Then I quit and played online and the game got ruined for me because someone duped a bunch of op gear for me and I didn't realize it was cheat/hacked gear lol
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>>721168231
Spider lady in Act 1
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>>721168601
>gloryhorn the boner
Amazing.
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>>721168802
>Online experience was just sorc's teleporting around using archangel's staff of apocalypse to instantly clear rooms
Little did we know that this would be the future of the genre.
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>>721135575
D1 characters are losers
D2 characters are gigachads (save for the Sorceress who got assassinated shortly after her return)
No one cares what happened to D3 chuds, they're non-canon
Not sure why D4 rebooted and pushed all the player characters away for an Asian chick

D2 Necro killed Diablo while Baal was a teamkill, he's basically the new Rathma now and has a fuckton of followers including the D3 and D4 Necro
D2 Barb returned and is the same Barb for D3 but they uniwittingly pushed him away for his female counterpart, Harrogath and every Barbarian city was wiped out thanks to Tyrael and they're nomads now
Assassin disappeared and was never mentioned again
Amazon became kween of Wonder Woman's planet, still alive
D2 Druid became shaman of all Druids, still alive
D2 Sorceress was assassinated by an assassin from the same order as the Assassin she fought alongside with because the other mages got jealous of her
Negro Paladin went back to help rebuild Kurast and the Zakarum but Mephisto's grip on the Council Members and the closed portal to Hell was too strong it kept corrupting the Travincal so he and some volunteers sealed the dead bodies along with themselves in some faraway keep to forever combat the demons physically and spiritually
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>>721168379
It was the royal you
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>>721169564
>D2 Sorceress was assassinated by an assassin from the same order as the Assassin she fought alongside with because the other mages got jealous of her
What is this retardation? Assassins arent for pay
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>>721146907
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>the last horadrim was the lucky faggot who got saved by tyroneal in the reaper of souls trailer and another horadrim npc fat guy who didn't exist prior
>they don't matter now and didn't rebuild
>tyroneal disappeared
>didn't even reappear when inarius returned
>then everyone did not matter because only the yellow gook matters despite not being a horadrim
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>>721168987
>act 1
You're thinking of the literal giant spider boss, Cydaea was in late act 3.
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>>721142568
>angels are le bad
Getting tired of this Jewish subversion.
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>>721170106
Hey, I liked Lorath. Only somewhat decent character in D4 honestly.
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>>721142568
Diablo angels are so fucking cool bros
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>>721170106
>yellow gook
I like to refer to her as rule 63 short round.
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>>721170453
>Dude the giant ring of burning eyes said be not afraid, that totally means we can trust them!
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>>721170453
Imperius was not evil lmao.
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>>721170569
>big titted Diablo angle that's just faceless divine light in a cloak
>but really big tittiediesys hnnng...
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>>721170475
Liam Neeson? Yeah he was alright.
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Darksiders Genesis is better than Diablo.
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>>721171448
Darksiders is barely a good Zelda/GoW clone.
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>>721170569
The trailer with Inarius descending upon a horde of demons who are recoiling from his mere presence probably sold 200k copies by itself. Kinda funny how the full cinematic ends with him dying like a little bitch.
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>>721153952
Anon D4 IS the Diablo MMo.
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>>721171676
and it makes me fucking seethe, pushing the open world mmo aspect destroys the gameplay at it's very core
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How can Blizzard ever hope to save the Diablo name?
I suspect there's more people playing d2r than d4
Has anyone on the staff even played diablo 1/2?
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>>721171195
I wonder what Auriel's mortal form would look like...
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LOOKING FOR BAAL?
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>>721171791
Sadly I think they're very happy with how Immortal did.
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>>721171791
if blizz cocks up wow vanilla+ they're completely dead to me
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>>721171782
I don’t mind the open world, except that the horse camera is too zoomed in, and the map is built like the roads of a French village from 1875, so you have to look at the minimal which is 10% of the screen size in the top right
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>>721171825
Bald negress
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>15 meteor spamming Blood Lords
>15 Council Members (which means 15 Hydras)
>3 Super Unique Council Members, 2 of which you are probably going to need to kill 9/10 times
I don't care how easy it is to kill Mephisto, this is grueling.
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>get to vessel of hatred’s ending
>Jesus becomes a demon zombie

Isn’t this a bit too much
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>>721170150
Oh yeah she was the boss before fighting Azmodan, when you're descending into the mountain
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>>721171631
>Kinda funny how the full cinematic ends with him dying like a little bitch.
That's because D4 started development at the nadir of the "subversion" craze in media and games. I can't speak for the expansion just the Inarius vs Lilith thing, even though they're both portrayed as being villainous Lilith is portrayed as a scorned mother lashing out (sympathy) while Inarius is portrayed as a pathetic control freak (derision).
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>>721170614
Lmao both me and my friend thought the same thing
>WE GO SAVE MY MOM, DR. JONES
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>>721172120
what, you hate loot?
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>>721171825
Deborah Wilson.
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>>721172248
>d4
>everyone’s morally grey! Sanctuary is full of Game of Thrones character!
>so what’s the human element here? What is the player fighting for
>lmao I dunno
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I want to main a polearm. Which class is for me?
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>>721172912
fury druid 100%
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>>721169168
Oh, I get it.
>>721169843
The Lord of Destruction!
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its like meeting a celebrity
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>>721172248
At the end of the day D4 was never going to be much more than a scrapped D3 expansion stretched over a scrapped Lost Ark clone with a couple of banger cinematics glued to it and a truly ludicrous amount of marketing for it's barely there main villain.
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>>721167663
Nioh and Stranger of Paradise, bro
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oh wow, maggot lair is just bonemancer's safari
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>>721174461
and skellymancers purgatory
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>>721171791
https://www.ign.com/articles/diablo-developers-vote-to-unionize-at-blizzard
450 devs means they're surely working on something big, r-right?
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nice thighs
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>>721174753
MY ROGUE SCOUTS ARE FUCKING DEAD
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What made his music so fucking great?
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>>721171631
Yeah all that hype and he dies pretty lame and didn't even put up a fight

He already banished Lilith a bajillion times prior
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>>721174629
Skellymancer is so fucking weak in comparison to bonemancer but it starts out far stronger
fucking teeth
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>>721175332
wtf skellymancer is hands down the strongest build all throughout the game
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>>721175017
>https://youtu.be/Ld-5-TyinAk?t=1
even his outtakes are pretty interesting.
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>>721175557
I see people ALWAYS saying this but like really. The kill time on this class is slower than me taking a morning SHIT.
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>>721135304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQCg-uHOrZk
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>>721175676
only till corpse explosion
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>>721175749
you don't need to be skelly mancer for that
bonemancer can corpse explode too
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>be skelly necro
>play d2 lod online
>unsummon skeles pls
>STOP USING BONE WALL
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>>721175812
skelly has 10x the survivability and comfy boss killing, fucker can even do ubers
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>>721175332
It's fun as fuck in Nightmare when you get a merc with fant aura and they start ripping through shit.
Falls off in Hell though, stuff takes too long to die even with amp damage and there aren't nearly enough interesting revive targets.
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>>721175581
Dman that is some good shit. Why did the soundtrack lose that prog rock feel about it in later games? The ost in Diablo 3 is so timid you barely notice it half the time.
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>>721175908
cool story bro
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>>721175676
Nothing beats a sorc. The class is so strong and useful for acquiring loot for your other classes. Teleport is OP and being able to craft spirit so easily as well as being able to very easily craft Insight for your merc makes the class even stronger in D2R
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>>721174629
Skelemancer in Faggot Lair is literally DOOR STUCK Simulator
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>>721175557
You are out of your fucking mind if you genuinely think Necro is the strongest at any point in the game.
Skeleton damage starts to fall off a cliff at P2, it literally just took me 10 minutes to clear Den at P3. I could clear P5 Den as a Paladin or Sorceress in half that.
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>>721176268
obviously I'm talking p1 since CE doesnt scale past that, if you want real autism barb is obviously the best class because of teleframes and HORK
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>>721176497
Even then he's the worst bossing character in the game by a longshot and skellymancer is worse than every other of his builds for it.
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>skelemancer is crap, bonemancer good
>skelemancer is good, bonemancer crap
is this waifu wars class editions?
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>>721176026
Skelemancer is literally the easiest Uber class in the game, pretty sure you could do it naked if you wanted to.

Doesn't mean it's the best though, just easiest. Necro is by far the slowest with none of the 3 primary playstyles being anything more than memes.
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>>721177397
the real player is dedicated cursemancer
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>>721177397
Both are crap, Necro is crap.
Problem is he's the most fun character in the game.
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>>721177687
this is extremely contradictory
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I am enjoying Kicksin.
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i always end up playing barbarian
what class should i try next?
I'm one of those retard that enjoy spinning
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>>721178446
A little P1 jaunt through Normal as Necro is the most fun you can have in the game. It's just that anything past P1 Normal is CBT and even his performance on that difficulty level is well below the efficiency of the other classes.
Summoning giant skeleton armies and blowing up corpses is fun, it just isn't very good.
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>>721171791
I've said this before but soulslike soft reboot prequel set during the sin war is the way to go. Blizz loves arriving 5-8 years late to popular new trends.
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>>721179069
Blaze Sorceress
Reject teleport, instead run around at 30mph
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>>721178446
not really.

The class is shit, and largely underpowered compared to the others. But it's fun to play and thematic as fuck.
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from all of this, i have gleamed the only easy breezy classes are apparently sorceress and paladin
so you have to play as either a woman or a nignog
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>>721159456
There's a side quest in Hawezar where you find a temple he was protecting and you fight his ghost. They don't explicitly come out and say that he was the paladin from Diablo 2, but there are enough context clues that you can figure it out for yourself. Apparently his canon name in Carthas.
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>>721179926
lol, what a bitch
didn't hammer enough
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>>721179818
Javazon
Trapsin
Mosaicsin
and Pitzerker are all viable endgame builds, though they do require a fair amount of gear. You can make low gear javazon's and Zerkers if you are comfortable not going as fast as possible or doing everything.

Druid is the only class in the game that doesn't have a dedicated spot on any farming tier list. Wind, Fire, Feral, Summoning are all shit, on par with necro honestly and worse to a degree, Necro just gets to be babies first ez mode playthrough or Uber farm.

This is not to say that Druid isn't fun or playable, just...everything you do is done better and faster by the other classes.
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>>721138668
>frogposter is sensible.
rare
I resent how koreans just dug up Diablo's corpse and made it into a freemium abomination.
Fuck Nexon.
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>>721177527
Based. Curses are op
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>>721180636
>Mosaicsin
>D2R
ewww
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>>721139349
>fucked up their build
one of the things i missed about early d2 was that you had to create new characters to try a different build. so even if you were late to ladder start you could still find people to level up with
synergy was gay and akara reset killed the game for me
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>>721159141
fuck Leah, look what they did to Deckard Cain
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They need to introduce normal non-socketed and socketed rings and amulets.

Introduce a runeword that gives Teleport at low levels.
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>>721180636
>Trapsin
If I wanted to play a caster, I would've gone sorc
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>>721170150
Seven vaganias
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>>721181519
unless your a faggot still clinging to some outdated and shit mod, D2R is the way to play.

I will admit that the new sunderedcharms and the stupid mosaic shit kinda fucked D2 quite a bit, but the changes they made across the board to classes and skills are almost entirely positive. You can actually be a Fire Druid in endgame now, not a great one...but you can be one.
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>>721182336
kys cuck
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>>721179818
Mosaic Assassin mogs both

Paladin is too gear dependent

Every nigger starts out with Sorceress because Teleport is too OP and every build of hers is also OP

She's used as a fast clearer to build your Hammerdin/Tesladin/Smitenigger

Too bad Blizzard has stopped updating for a couple of years now; all of the new runewords, QoL, Terror Zones, Sunder Charms were much needed
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>>721175676
You have to actually supplement your minion army by doing more than just afking while they do all the work.
>getting a staff with teleport charges to drop them on powerful foes as a stack
>using curses like attract, decrepify or dim vision to help them against powerful magic users or ranged enemies
>using revive on enemies with crushing blow to speed up act boss killing
>using items that can empower your army further, like a call to arms powered up by +to all skills item to beef up their stats even further
There's a lot you can do with a minion army.
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>>721182472
Sunder Charms were not needed, and are a fuckin meme shit anyways. The only thing they did was make Blizz sorcs even more overpowered.

It always was, and always will be, faster to switch to a different element/Physical to kill the odd immune you need to than it is to fight 95% resistant mobs.
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>>721182768
Sunder Charms made other builds viable instead of just resorting to the same Sorceress/Paladin spam
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>>721140262
Seasonal content felt fresh and eventually made the game good to get back to every time a season started. In D4 it's just borrowed power every single fucking season, blizzard just stopped giving a fuck.
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>>721182472
>Mosaic Assassin
>D2R
not canon
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>>721140262
It was such corporate garbage that it set me free from modern gaming.
At least until Dark souls restored my hope.
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>>721182768

the 95% resist baseline makes it so your other other sources of resist reduction aren't being wasted on trying to reduce the target below 100%
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>>721166817
Kill yourself frogjack posting scum your kind is not wanted here.
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>>721183002
Your fanmade mod isn't and will never be canon
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>>721182336
probably a pod tranny
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>>721182880
No they didnt you dumbfuck. Every class already had a way to deal with immunes if they had to fight them.

>>721183147
If you can afford Facets and gear you don't need a sunder charm, it's literally an afterthought and sometimes you don't even pick one up in favor of just getting another skiller.
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The endgame is farming Ubers for keys to sell for forum gold.
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>>721183492
???
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sunder charms were made so that the necromancer and druid can keep up
they unwittingly created a monster with mosaic
the other classes don't need sunder charms but bone/poison and fire/wind druids do
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Druid Summoner > Necro Summoner
there. I said it.
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>>721135304
>D1 fighter (warrior)
>D2 barbarian
both good grug classes but necromancer really was the show stealer, and sorc once you get frozen orb
it's sad that amazon didn't reall get good until d3 when they made bows feel a lot more fluid unlike d1 and 2 when enemies can slowly strafe to the side and avoid the projectile
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>>721184603
kys dogfucker
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What's a nice early game runeword for a polearm barb?
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>>721184603
Too weak, gets mogged in Maggot Lair as opposed to just taking too long.

No S-tier builds for the Druid but the Fire Druid and Werewolf/Werebear are solid A-tier builds.

Wind Druid is obsolete now though still a B+ build.
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Does Amazon have her ass out the entire game?
asking for a friend
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>>721184860
>>721184913
>YES! I LOVE RUNNING OUT OF CORPSES BECAUSE MY SKELLIES DIE FROM A STIFF BREEZE WHILE MY GOLEM TAKES A CENTURY TO GO INTO MELEE RANGE!
Listen guys. I summon my pupperinos, my bearino and my thornino spiritino, alt-tab to videocall your mothers for some spicy gossip about you, and when I come back I just take my loot and go. No muss no fuss.
>B-B-BUT MUH TIERS
I make my own meta. Also I make sure my dire wolves eat all available corpses so my necro teammates seethe.

>>721184932
Yes, with the old graphics enabled.
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/players 8
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>>721185123
>Yes, with the old graphics enabled.
if only it were fun
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>>721159141
I kept expecting her to get the Kerrigan/Sylvanas treatment in D4.
Perhaps it's best that she's gone forever...
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I SENSE A SOUL IN SEARCH OF (you)s
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>>721140137
Making Diablo 3 soft-noncanon was the best idea Blizz had in ages
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>Diablo 4
>you don't fight Diablo at all, he's not even mentioned or around
>you don't even fight Mephisto even if he's around
KWAB
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I liked the sexo femdiablo in d3
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>>721184464
Wind druid is already dual spec with Hurricane and Nado, Nado deals phsyical so all you need is a merc with Amp Damage weapon to break phys immunes.
Fire druid was always shit, but after D2R they are better and are dual specced Fire/Phys naturally, charms don't really help druids low damage out at all, and needing a full set of -fire res jewels and gear is stupidly expensive for what little power you gain.

Poison necro never had an issue whatsoever, there are only a couple poison immune not broken by lower resist anyways and none of them save for Baal waves matter. Bone necro deals magic damage and there's what? 4 Magic Immune mobs in the game, the two important ones being tunnels and baal waves, neither are zones Necro really wants to fuck with anyways.

Sunder charms were good for Fire sorcs though, Fireball spam got better, flickering flame + 3 piece tal set with weapon for -30 fire resistance is great. Cold sorcs were the only true winners of Sunder charms, since they get a skill that lowers naturally. thank god they nerfed it too, giving sorcs a free -100 res was broken, at least now it's only -30 to -40 with investment.

Again, sunder charms literally did nothing for the vast majority of classes, but idiots like you think it's gamechanging cause you're all too stupid to pick up a secondary skill or just not farm areas loaded with your immune type.
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>>721185481
this is her now, feel old yet?
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wait, D2R can use the old graphics?
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>Malthael disappears
>becomes Reaper of Souls
>Tyrael disappears
>???
Also surprised that the player character of 4 doesn't just become Aidan 2.0
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How come 1 and 2 had incredible music but 3's and 4's was mostly forgettable?
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>>721185612
Evil women aren't for sex tho
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>>721185987
Lilith was the good gurl, wanted Sanctuary to have their own hero even at the cost of genociding her great great great great n** children
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>>721185987
D4 was a soft reboot and it utterly failed
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>>721186293
>Lilith was the good gurl
it's concerning how many people actually believe this. I blame it on low media literacy
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>>721185827
Hurricane does shit damage though and Tornados miss alot.

Fissure, Volcano and nu-Armageddon don't.
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>>721184895
Malice (Ith El Eth) is a very good runeword early on. It's not huge damage but the Open Wounds and -defense makes it one of the best runewords, although you can often find better rares.
Strength (Amn Tir) is similarly a low investment, but the mana regen on kill is nice, and it gives a hefty chunk of crushing blow which is great for bosses.
Insight (Ral Tir Tal Sol) is one of the best early game runewords in the game. 99% of the time you're putting it on your mercenary, but it actually has damage modifiers that make it a competitive endgame weapon. It can roll 200-260% enhanced damage and gives +1-6 Critical Strike (potentially 46% crit rate). It also completely solves your mana problems and carrying it yourself means you're not reliant on your merc staying alive.

There's also a lot of good unique polearms but that depends on what you find. https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Unique_Polearms
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>>721185967
Yeah you can toggle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUk44zXDQSw
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>>721186392
t. Inarius
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>>721185987
knowing blizzard they'll just turn him back into an angel but not before he "dies"
imperius will go evil first
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>>721186628
>Inarius wants to kill Lilith to get back to heaven. hates humans but doesn't *really* get out of his way to kill them
:(
>Lilith wants to kill most of humanity to make the rest her chosen servants
:D
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>>721186368
>Mephisto
>Mephisto 2
>Mephisto 2: Lord of Destruction
>Mephisto 3
>Mephisto Immortal
>Mephisto 4
>Baal
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>>721135304
why is path of exile so shit
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>"Randomly generates" map functionally identical to every other randomly generated map the game will ever generate
>"Randomly generates" you a sword with a paragraph's worth of affixes but it's mechanically indistinguishable from just getting a simple longsword +1 from AD&D
>"Randomly generates" a rare monster that hits slightly harder or whatever
Is Diablo artifical game design?
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>>721186293
the bigger the tits the gooder the girl or something
that's why Inarius wanted to break up with her because her tits deflated
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>>721186443
>Tornadoes miss a lot
but somehow
>fissure don't
lmao, get a load of this nigger. Fissure is the worst skill in the game for boss killing, Nado cast directly ontop of a mob once positioned correctly always hits. And hurricane does respectable damage if specced for it and geared, It's nothing noteworthy, but it will take out Phys Immunes not also cold immune. It's not like Druid is speed clearing p8 anyways, so the lower damage from hurricane doesn't hurt it as much as you might think.
Nu-armageddon still misses a shit ton and it's damage is merely ok, Volcano is great though after d2r, if the boss stands still long enough that is.
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>>721138668
Because Diablo 1 was a turn based rougelite for 90% of the development. It wasn't until they were in the final stretch and play testing that it went real time.
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How to build Javazon?
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Inarius died too fast and Lilith was easier than base game Act 4 Diablo

Diablo fucked you up and adding LoD made him easier
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>>721186917
>Le epic hard game for le epic hardcore gamers
that's why, it's designed with autism in mind and "balanced" around trying to keep an ARPG hard.
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>>721138668
This is why Diablo 2 should be speedran only or with a rule that you never clear the same zone twice.
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>>721185881
>titty carapace
sexo
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>>721187760
>D2 speed runs are just luck based as to who can get Tal+eth at countess first try
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>>721186072
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>>721186072
Lilith cares for all of her children and went neurotic rage
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Is it actually worth getting resurrected when you can easily download the original on the internet for free?
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>>721186917
Rubberbanding, on death effect, drops balanced around trading
you remove these 3 and add wasd and a /player equivalent
Game fixed
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>Six Mephisto runs in a row
>All magic items aside from one rare
>360% MF
I mean, I guess it's doing what it says on the tin but also fuck you.
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>s
phoenix strike assassin
any sorc build
any paladin build
lightning fury amazon
lightning trap assassin
poison necromancer

>a
wind druid
fire druid
werewolf druid
fire kick assassin
battle orders barbarian
corpse explosion necromancer

>b
werebear druid
strafe bow amazon
summon necromancer
gold find barbarian
berserk barbarian
mercenary corpse explosion necromancer

>c
bone necromancer
whirlwind barbarian
leap barbarian
any other build
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>>721190260
>six in a row
wow, six? that's some serious grinding
stay hydrated and remember to take stretch breaks
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>>721190797
Is this based on effectiveness or general enjoyment?
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>run four ubers on singleplayer
>necro
>necro
>barb
>necro
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>>721190873
I take shits longer than six Mephisto runs.
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>>721190797
>phoenix strike assassin
nani
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really helping against those lesbian stereotypes

also, bloodraven's ass really is just out
all of it
why aren't assassin and amazon the same?
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>>721191593
it's mosaic specifically
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What's the most fun paladin and why is it Zealot
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>>721191797
>D2S
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>>721191797
>>721192274
D2R, I mean
but you knew that
faggot
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>>721192170
Shockadin is indeed fun as fuck.
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>>721184603
Fire Druid > Fire Sorc. There I said it.
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>>721193284
you druid fags have become too uppity
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Not a general board.
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>>721193395
https://www.4chan.org/janitorapp
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>>721190797
>S tier
>poison necro
nah, it's good but's not nearly as good as the other builds. A tier is fine, it needs way too much gear before it starts to push P8 like Paladin/Sorc/Javazon does

>CE Necro
Not a build, all necro's are CE necros.

>WW Baba, C tier
Nah bitch, Twin Oath in Eth Balrog blades Whirlwinding through Trav is amazing. easily an A tier build.
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>>721193371
leave them alone, druid is so cucked in D2 it's really not even right to pick on them at all.
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>>721193701
that dude is very clearly the schizo trying to bait people, half of his list is pure dogshit opinions
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>>721191693
Front loincloth only?
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>>721194481
sure
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>>721140262
I liked how the legendary items could completely change your playstyle. It was fun to experiment
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>>721190797
In terms of fun or power?
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Runewords ruined D2
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>double wizardspike + fcr ring barb with enigma
Now this is podracing
Best class for farming keys once you actually get geared up
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After getting a decent stash built up leveling a Barb is pretty damn fun, great excuse to use the toys you've been hoarding. Also really make me appreciate the implementation of Set items, I'm using three different sets and clobbering the fuck out of everything.
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>>721191693
*slaps both asses*
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>>721197220
as we all should
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>want to play assassin as a melee character and not a caster, especially not waiting for a duration area effect to do its work
>combo point system means 3-4 ability casts per area effect attack
>mosaic is high level
>anything else is highly gear dependent
I played traps up through countess runs and I think I dislike playing around making Wake of Fire efficient. What do? Can I have a not-terrible time making it to Mosaic or Chaos with a non-trap build? Like do Blade Fury/Kick/Venom?
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>>721182523
that's so much more effort than just tele'ing in spamming static field and fireball/orb a couple times.
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>>721199532
just focus on kicking
put three levels in cobra strike
wield fast weapon to stack quickly
kick
win
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>just got a cham
>realized that cham sucks ass outside of Pride
At least it's half a zod?
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>>721192170
2h zealot is so fucking cool. I made one with a death in a colossus blade one time it was tight
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>>721200697
Just get two jahs, two Los, and two surs and make an auradin (:
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>>721200541
>only single target attacks
>win
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>>721190797
>>s
>any paladin build

demon machine gawds we are winning
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i loved pre-ladder when there were dump/gibs lobbies

got 4 bers, 4 jahs, 6 ohms, 2 surs, 6 los and a dozen ists and vex
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>>721202516
Dragon Tail
and Phoenix Strike
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>>721202729
what the fuck am i looking at
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>growls
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>>721204375
someone playing a holyfire paladin using the demon machine crossbow
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>>721135304
>Luv Diablo 1
>Loike Diablo 2
>Don't care about the rest
Simple as
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>>721185881
You telling me, D1 protag fucked and came inside THIS?? Woah...
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>>721207827
Diablo 3 was meh until Reaper of Souls came out.
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>>721209934
Diablo 3 was shit until RoS came out where it then became meh.
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>>721194935
Lack of rebalancing and bots ruined D2, both things could be fixed easily but activision is too busy with milking retards who still play Diablo 3.5
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>>721199362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1WElHtjKLo
>back when i had dialup and patching took ages
>listening to this music while the blood orb slowly filled uo
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Will Diablo V be like Dark Souls?
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I think IV is objectively the best in series, but my favourite is 1. Will women still want to date me if I reveal this?
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>>721165330
Name one character with a completely useless skill tree. Not being able to kill as fast as a hammerdin doesn't make a skill tree useless.
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>>721211316
Women don't want to date guys who play video games enough to even know what Diablo is.
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>>721137635
They’re talking about d1 retard.
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>>721211770
No he isn't you ESL.
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>>721211770
Adria is in Diablo 1. Do you think the D3 team invented her?
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>>721211209
No, it'll be like D3 and D4 since those games are very successful.
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>>721185881
Would.
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>>721211558
Wait until they find out you hang out on an anime Facebook to talk about video games based on Dungeons and Dragons!
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>>721212097
>no “Happy Diablo I for PS1 Ryan”

Crazy what white women can get away with.
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>>721212097
>tits got bigger
shame
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>>721146907
Immortal takes place before 3 and I'm pretty sure the necro from 2 is the mentor of 3's necro and he shows up as a force ghost before the Malthael boss fight
4 necro has no ties to previous necros
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Is Immortal any good? I wanted to go through it for the story.
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>>721212510
I hope more D3 and less D4.
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>>721170150
>Im not into spider g-
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>>721215640
>those UIs
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>>721215698
You would not believe it's the PC version.
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>>721215884
wtf
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>>721215884
>deckard cain is a twink
I thought this took place just before D3
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>>721215884
>Make a game for the Asian market
>Turn the frail old man into a pretty boy amalgamation of a white man and k-pop singer
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I made a controller emulator in python - it's mainly for other games, but I use with DevilutionX to enable WASD movement - mouse still works normally. Just hate clicking on everything all the time. If someone wants the script I can catbox it.
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>>721216007
>>721216109
Flashback.
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>>721216007
And yes, it still does.
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>>721215884

they just made him luke skywalker
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>>721147030
>Nobody played Diablo Immortal.
Don't you people have phones?
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>>721135304
For me it was the quest books you'd come across in dungeons.
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>>721140262
It's actually good now that they got rid of the real money action house.
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Not enough female witch doctor porn.
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>Diablo 1 thread
>Everyone just talks about Diablo 2 and Diablo 4 after the first 30 posts
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>>721218079
I've played D3 on and off since the week of release and I don't think I ever spent more than 20 minutes playing a WD because I was never a fan of the theming.
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>>721218205
Is a Monk using melee and spell (both staff and mana) effective?
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>>721135580
>Warrior
Starts off decent, but gets worse and worse as the game goes on
>Rogue
Starts of OP but becomes weak by end game.
>Sorcerer
Starts off weak, becomes decent by mid game, OP by the end.
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>>721218828
My Rogue was really strong by the end of the game, she shot her bow so quickly that I stunlocked everything including Diablo.



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