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What are your thoughts on used goods heroines in vidya?
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>>721210725
Post the black-haired flattie
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>>721210876
Fine.
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>>721210725
its cuck shit, total cuckold death.
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>>721210985
She cute
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>>721210725
A lot of them are chicks, so at least they don't count!
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>>721210725
The used goods thing isn't what bothers me about Luca, it's everything else.
>>721210985
Absolute best girl, would replay the games again just for her cosmosphere and the feelings it gave me.
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>>721210725
I definitely preferred Cloche for AT2. But given you have to dive balls deep into all of them in their respective routes you have the opportunity to actually work through potential issues.
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>>721211912
>actually work through potential issues
Hmm yes, totally.
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Used goods heroines aren't so bad, as long as their whole character isn't
>I used to be a slut
>I have zero remaining first romantic experiences, by the way. Did I mention that today?
Then it becomes obnoxious.

Used goods heroines>the prettiest NTR heroine
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>>721212108
The translators really wanted to fuck up this series for some reason. Ar Tonelico 1 was fine but then in 2 got weird even going so far as to cause a crashing bug and then 3 was like that image. What were they doing?
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>>721210725
I can fix her. You tiny dick fags can get cucked and cower in the corner.
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>>721212429
Why would you think the translators came up with the shitter related stuff?
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>>721212429
NISA has always been pretty garbage to be honest.
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>>721212271
Judging by how fantasy novels usually go, yeah. It's easy to spin used goods, NTR is really bad though.
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>>721212886
Somehow only Disgaea got away. Even 7 in Nisa's prime woke phase got a faithful translation. It really dependa which team does the job. Another good example are the Labyrinth games that were properly translated as well.
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>>721213072
>Somehow only Disgaea got away.
No it didn't. It got a bad translation too.
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>>721210725
I'm sorry, but has Luca even engaged in sexual intercourse? Oh, that’s right. She hasn't even made contact with a man outside of dive therapy. In fact, it’s only therapy involving fields for soothing. Does not having a cliche tsundere personality make you a slut? Is that what you’re saying? Because if you’re saying that I can assure you that you’re wrong. Why would you make this topic when the game is already finished and we know for certain she is pure? Luca has to go up against one of the sluttiest reyvateils in Ar Ciel who just happened to have a lead because she was praying on Croix's innocence. But you know what? Cloche is still a whore. Luca is the best heroine in all three games, she has the best songs. Luca has already won Croix over, she would have done it sooner if it wasn't for her tragedy with her sister throwing her for a mental loop. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Luca is proven a better waifu than any other in AT2. Cloche tries to latch on to anyone who would have shown her a different and free life. Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I’m fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you’re the only guy making all these anti-Luca topics because you’re a faggot hater who doesn’t like a heroine because they’re canonically pure. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking idiots on the board, like I give a fuck. It’s so easy to spot out your threads now, you’re a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don’t you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That’s just you, you’re always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.
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>>721210725
Trash, should've died in a fire.
Last time I checked Luca is still a virgin though, she's one hell of manipulative bitch though.
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>>721213331
What's a bad translation, straight up rewriting shit? Someone would have had to compare scenes on purpose. I think you lot are peddling memes.
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>>721213590
>elf
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I really enjoyed Ar Tonelico when I was younger, I still get the tunes in my head sometimes.
I can't remember a single thing about the PS3 one though.
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>>721213813
Uhh Cosmoflips? It's a catchy one.
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>>721213813
it's the shitty one so you're better off
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for me, it's misha
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>>721213562
I hope this was written in 2009
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>>721213072
>Somehow only Disgaea got away
In what fucking world? They fucked up Disgaea 2 with all their DLC fuckups and Disgaea D2 has multiple crashes and an overheating issue, none of which are in the JP version
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>>721213939
I found the two that stuck out most to me, I'm gonna end up listening to all of them again. Really underrated series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWKSfdo9DT8&list=RDYWKSfdo9DT8&start_radio=1
https://youtu.be/Thrl3fFGgdE?list=RDThrl3fFGgdE&t=149
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>>721214083
it might have been
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The chance to get your dream woman and you pick one that was fucked by other men.
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>>721214383
it took me a while to realize that phantasmagoria was the best hymnnos in the series. It encapsulates the games well
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>The chance to get your dream woman and you pick one that isn't me. You should leave her for me right now!
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>>721214794
Eh. I still prefer Chronicle Key.
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>>721210725
I don't care as long as they don't constantly bring it up.
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>>721210725
>used goods
>heroines
Choose one.
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https://youtu.be/eoicX3RPf5Q
bop
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>it looks like this is the first and last time I stick something into you
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>>721214083
I think it's an edit of another pasta that's been lost to time.
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how is these even a choice
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>>721217526
*this
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>>721210725
Yakuri is better
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>>721214248
>D2
dlc was fine, whats the problem?
>DD2
we talk about translation here, not that one crash that you have to go out of your way to reproduce
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>>721217526
It's irrelevant if you're going for Jakuri anyway.
From a gameplay perspective though, Cloche is so much better it's no contest.
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>>721217526
I'm a Lucafag. I'm not even sorry.
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Why were the girls in 3 so fucking ugly?
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type delta
>40 year lifespan, needs constant medicine
>type beta
>300 year lifespan, you will die before her. Your children will become inferior type delta
human girl is still better
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>>721215798
Almost all the Hymnos are fantastic.
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>>721212108
It's gotta suck to be known as the toilet girl.
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>>721218739
Damn thats a cool collection. I can only find a single copy though and its the equivalent of just under $300
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>>721218628
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Croix was a boring protagonist. Jacqli was much better than the 2 main girls. Ar Tonelico 2 had great world building but the cast should have been more likeable.
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>>721218919
Want me to play devil's advocate? It's not an unrealistic hangup to have. I hate shit too.
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>>721213813
The final boss theme was really good.
https://youtu.be/SGaM07Pc-nI?si=jkpVyKYS_9oAS3JN
Too bad you won't hear it like this in the actual fight.
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>>721210985
My wife
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>>721210725
This is the greatest series i never got into.
>stumble upon the hymnos on youtube
>read about the game and the very cool lore
and when i got to play the games they were painfully mid at best, one of the most tragic cases of wasted potential in all honesty.
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>>721217526
*tits
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>>721219354
You're the kind of person who says mid so clearly this kino is wasted on you.
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>>721212429
Not to mention the text they used for the US version of AT3 is dogshit and too lazy to use the text from 1 and 2 and JP version of 3 which was much clearer. That text made it hard to read and what was NISA smoking using that shitty text?
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>>721218725
>have male children with reyvateil
>they just randomly explode one day
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>>721217882
>dlc was fine, whats the problem?
They removed the voices from the DLC characters and didn't even bother releasing all of them because fuck us Westerners I guess.
>we talk about translation here
Oh, well nvm then
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>>721211016
good morning saar
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Years later I still hate Luca.
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>>721220207
It was an issue with using composite output for some of their PS2/PS3 games. I never saw the problem with text because I was always using component/HDMI.
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>HUHHH?? Croix's FIRST TIME will be with this... this RANDOM GIRL with way BIGGER ASSETS than me?? and I... *gulp* will have to HELP them get STARTED and WATCH!?! HOLY A R T O N E L I C OOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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>>721224279
You asshole, you actually made me chuckle at that meme for the first time.
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>>721219143
And you're an idiot hung up on NISA's garbage translation and with a severe lack of reading comprehension.

>>721219354
Imbecile, as if the worldbuilding wasn't in service of the music, characters and story.
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>>721219318
That's not the final boss theme. It's Ec Tisia ~Tarifa~
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>>721210725
Bitches
And
Whores.
>>721210985
Reminder this is a mother who has already given birth.
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>>721214026
Me too but only her loli form
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>>721224554
>Reminder this is a mother who has already given birth.
media literacy at its finest
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why would you stick reproduction organ in bio pc tho? their cloning technology is much faster and cheaper than normal procreation.
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>>721224508
I guess that's more the final boss theme, but they both play in the same fight.
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>>721224848
sex with cyborg girl
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The boobs are a lie.
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>>721210985
>>721219351
>ywn learn Hymmnos just to sing a love song duet with Jakuri
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Gust need to stop shitting out atelier and start working on a new Tonelico. And mana khemia too.
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>>721224848
because what if i fall in love with a bio pc
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>>721222846
Coco will always be the best girl in AT2. too bad she didn't get a route.
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>>721210985
>That scene where Luca & Cloche ponder how the fuck they both lost to the girl who came out of nowhere & joined midway in the game
Even Alpha-Man just straight up said you'd need to be insane to continue pursuing either of them.
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>>721236019
kind of neat croix picks her if he no way fags the other three. no real route with her but at least him being inside her is part of the main plot.
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>>721210725
I drop any game with them if they are one of the main choices
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>>721236171
The best part is she had no protection.
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>>721235874
>posting super forgetable girl
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>>721236121
i'm a bit on the fence between cloche and jakuri due to personal tastes. but in terms of an ending that is more bang for your buck, jakuri sweeps. it's just unfair for cloche and luca. croix learning hymmnos and how to sing just for her. that's too good.
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>>721222846
I get that she was waaaaay too much better than Cloche at the start & had to be knocked down a peg, but they went so fucking hard in this scene. This is the kind of shit that makes you unable to ever look at someone the same way again.
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>>721236505
>HEY HEY YOU YOU I DON'T LIKE YOUR GIRLFRIEND
shurelia-sama don't you have a tower to run
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>>721210985
Wife.
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>>721236914
>Adult body
>Child hair
what the fuck is even going on here
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>>721214794
It's a phenomenal sendoff. I love hearing the little band noises at the very end. Makes me vibrantly imagine all of the musicians giving the game a big sendoff, a sort of meta-message of "Yay! We played all of the songs! You have reached the end of the play, where the band banters and packs up"
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I miss this series so much. Probably should replay them someday.
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>>721237481
she's allowed to have different hairstyles, you know.
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>>721235874
Misha is love, Misha is life.
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>>721217526
Jakuri is best and Cloche gets Replekia, it's pretty easy choice.
I went Luca on my first playthrough and regreted it towards the end of her last cosmospheres.
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>>721241053
she is quite charming
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It's sad that their respective songs only play in like one fight or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoicX3RPf5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CQL1WUR6pk
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>>721219495
Anyone got the you mad edit of this?
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Shurelia best girl!
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ra ra ra ran ran ran

fun fuuun fu fun fun fuuun
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>>721210725
What kind of is this? Looks pretty interesting, art and sprites reminds me of Remember11 and Atelier Iris
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>>721241798
>canon has a bugged GPS system built into her so it makes her get lost easily
>she can't ever get it fixed because anyone who know how she works is long gone



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