Why didn't VR gaming succeed?
HOL UP*SMACK*SO YOU BE SAYIN
>>721213431no vr child porn
>>721213431WE
>>721213431Because no graphics card can do 400hz at 8k x2.
>>721213431They 1000% designed it on purpose.
>>721213431Cause it sucks. It isn't fully immersive, doesn't suck you off, and is expensive and bad for what it is. Next fucking question.
>>721213431SHIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
>>721213431people were expecting it was .HACK/Matrix -tier mind-meld.Also, the only perspective worth playing in is first person which limits the sort of games you can make a lot
facebook fucked it over. splitting up the player base and locking everything to the meta store cucked it so hard, and all so they could just use research from it to fuel their attempt at making the "next smartphone" with their AR glasses. TBF they are cool but I wish VR gaming hadn't been completely bulldozed out of the way in favor of that.
BIX NOOD
>>721213431Resolutions way too fucking lowOverhead way too fucking high TethersShitty controllersEvery single system has a shitty UX that feels disjointed between the frontend and the game proper
>>721215452also, there's GOOD games on it. Pic is the most fun I had with a game in years and RE8 VR was so fucking scary I had to go back to standard.VR porn has basically fully replaced normal, can't go back once you've seen LazyPro animations in VR
>>721215738>pistol whip came out 6 years ago
>>721213431Too complex for the layman
>>721213431this is the third time VR has failedinherently autistic technologymotion sickness doesn't help
>>721213431good hardware too expensive
>>721215880>6 years oldall good VR games come from PCVR, which zuckerburg killed years ago
>>721213431looks like a monke face
>>721213431Zuckerberg killed PCVR, and mobile VR is ass.
>>721215452>Also, the only perspective worth playing in is first person which limits the sort of games you can make a lotI for one would enjoy a classic styled turn based Dungeon Crawler in VR.
>>721213431kek
>>721213431No enough watermelon in games
>>721219726It adds basically nothing in that case unless we're talking like Ultima Underworld
george's sneed and feed
>>721221043>It adds basically nothingAnd? Not every game fell for their console/system's gimmicks. I'm just saying a VR dungeon crawler just seems like a cool perceptive. Its a simple genre that doesn't need much. The game could be made like DOOM and use 2D images to simulate 3D for all I care.
>>721213431One day 20 years from now we'll get a 200 hour action JRPG with a AAA budget and a chuuni story and you can date the girlsMedium is dead until then unfortunately.
>>721213431Because it gives normalniggers motion sickness.
>>721213431expensive, shit games, hardware intensive, need a dedicated space instead of just a spot to sit, too gimmicky
>>721213431
>>721217107More like because people keep expecting it to be some fully immersive true virtual reality/dream experience when it's always been a fucking gimmick, but at least a slighty better one with every new iteration, just like 3D shit
>>721223602High-concept post
>>721223602I don't see it.
>>721223602and this guy on the side
>>721215452>people were expecting it was .HACK/Matrix -tier mind-meld.I mean its what we want. But realistically VR has been tried every decade since the 80s and it still suffers from the same problems it had in the 80s. >expensive>runs like shit>no games>games it has are gimmicks>shit controls>no battery life>wired versions have dangling cords everywhere>causes nausea and headaches in like 1/3rd of people>does the above in everyone if you use it for more than an hour>you need an entire huge empty room dedicated to it during a housing crisis where everyone's paying $350/wk rent to share a house with strangers
>>721213431>MUHFUGGA BIX NOOD
>>721213431Take a pick.- Very expensive- Bad games- Requires clearing out a space for it which you may not have room for- Motion sickness- Ultimately it's just a gimmick that's neat for like 5 seconds but doesn't actually do anything better than a normal monitor
>>721213431OP, I get why you do this. Anyone who frequently VR threads understands why, but you suck. Genuine conversations can't be had when you're just baiting retards to bump these threadsAnyways, what y'all niggas playin'? I tried out Sushi Ben for about an hour yesterday. Cute game.
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>>721215738>can't go back once you've seen LazyPro animations in VRWhere the fuck are you supposed to find high-quality non shit VR porn that you don't have to pay for? Every site is cucked with subscriptions to look at or download anything.
Its completely counterintuitive to me. Making me use my body makes it feel less immersive. Doesn't make it not fun, but it calls my attention to it, like playing an arcade cabinet with a gun. I don't really need that experience in my home. We had that orange playststion gun with point blank and time crisis, they were cool, but that's basically what VR feels like for me.
>>721223602Good shit.
>>721226526you haven't tried VR
>>721226087Been playing Dungeons of Eternity, pretty fun coop dungeon crawler, does not fuck around difficulty wise thoughalso was messing with Google Earth VR, very cool
>>721213431judeo-american ponzi scheme
>>721226634Sure thing.
>>721213481>>721213515>>721215403>dude niggers lmao
>>721225220go back
>>721213431It will eventually. It's just not time yet. The concept and creativity are ready to go, but the hardware isn't quite there. Software is downstream from that, really. Because if the hardware was on spot, the demand for software would have been much higher. Porn is still the greatest use for it.
>>721227482>eventuallythat shit isn't happening in our lifetimethe amount of tech required to actually bring you into a true virtual reality is insane, and you can bet a lot of literal brains will fry before they even get it remotely rightKinda sad given our brains are innately able to do that already through dreams and shit
>>721213431Because unironically most of vidya here is mostly "Tech demo" tier where all you can do is messing with stuff around with these controls, also you need some space and assuming that most of gamers usually live in very small rooms.Amd even if entire experience is a new gimmick, but once you get used to it you will realize that gaming in traditional way is still way more fun.Vr should be full dive like in many "VRmmorpg anime" where people can dive into another world and experience things that cannot be experienced in real world like healthy romantic and loving relationship with cute girl, then people will go VR.
I had a rift cv1 in 2018 i think. Blown away by it, truly felt like some next gen shit. Then... nothing. same games, over and over and over again, everything had been made, and it was all shooty shooty shit or sim racing/flying stuff, and that was it. Then everyone hyped up hl:a, it came out, i remember playing it for about... 2 hours? and i lost all interest. I was getting really tired of taking the thing out and setting every fucking thing up, hooking up 3 usb devices and the headset via usb and hdmi just to get the fucking thing started, it went into a case and i haven't touched it since alyx came out. Recently got a quest 3 for free. Tried it out... thought "oh cool it's wireless! what good ga-">it's all the same, just worse looking now because the quest is just an android tablet strapped to your face>wireless pcvr requires a router specifically for it (another usb device hooked up to my pc)>wired vr is easier, but it's basically the same shit as what ever was happening since alyx released, nothing newit's now sitting in a case next to my pc and i am not certain what to do with it.
>>721221891It's a hassle, the hassle really has to be worth itbetween playing an EO-like on a VR headset or a screen (or even better, a DS) everyone would pick the latter
Quest 3 with Horizon+ at $10/month with over 30 games is all you really need
>>721227743Alyx was the peak, after that Quest took over and it's just been cheap mobile shit. Only hope is if zucc gets bored of VR and stops paying everyone to be on his shitty platform
How fucking small are your houses that you cant clean up 3 feet ahead of wherever you're sitting to play the majority of games?Just get an office chair and swivel around instead of walking if you dont wan to turn with the joystick.
>>721213431No hdrI'm serious
>>721213431Too expensive for the masses. Remember when 3D movies were a thing?
>>721213431>90s to early 00s is a console gaming bubble >No VR investment in the 2000s because of said console bubble>After 2012 the console gaming bubble has well and truly popped, but a bunch of bagholders are flailing around and trying to stay above water with microtransactions, freemium, mobile gaming and other shit>VR debuts again in 2012 and gets pulled into the bagholder orbit, promptly getting nailed with walled gardens, corporate dickwaving and Windows exclusivity right as Windows becomes non-viable as a computing and gaming platform with Win 8 and Win 10>No game industry and anyone willing to work professionally in the games industry gets drafted by bagholders to work on slop like Horizon Worlds, not even productive work, they're just benchwarmers for stock market shit>The constant walled gardens means that a lot of games get developed on platforms like PSVR and are just lost instead of being added to the catalog>Community efforts are constantly stymied by walled gardens until interoperability becomes more standardized, ironically due to locked down wireless headsets that can just be streamed toIt's getting better now and if Deckard ends up releasing (2050) without being locked down Android shit, then VR will probably progress much faster than it has been while being held back by Meta. >>721228969It's as cheap as a console.
>>721226723>Been playing Dungeons of Eternity, pretty fun coop dungeon crawler, does not fuck around difficulty wise thoughIs it worth the price. I find it difficult to pay high prices for VR games, when even the best of them can be found for extremely cheap of 3rd party sites. Also, have you played solo?
>>721226491how are you THIS new to animated porn bro just search and you'll find it
>>721213431Why does the headset have lips?
>>721213431head hurtwallet hurtpenis hurt
>>721223602Fuck I see it
What is your standard for "succeed"?VR gaming is extremely active, all niches in it are healthy and alive, and every third space in virtual space is not only populated, but has had a sustained, ideal "old regulars vs regular new blood" rate for half a decade now.VRSpace is the only thing in the world resembling the golden age of the internet and has been for close to 10 years now, but people love to pretend it's "dead" because it's not being destroyed by locusts and bots like anywhere else online.
>>721230025people want fast, disposable experiences for everything todayif you cant get in, just take, then leave, then it's dead to the average consumerunironically vr is completely inaccessible if you're not white it's impossible you'll understand the concept of sticking to a space to contribute to it as much as you take
>>721230025People are basing their expectations on the console hype train of the 90s and 2000s. They do not see an entire aisle of Chinesium consoles being sold for 50-100$ and a bunch of 10$ shovelware.
>>721229647Do you mean your literally just watching videos in a VR space? Or are you watching VR porn? Because if you mean your just watching regular porn on a 2d screen in a VR environment, what the fuck is the point of that? VR porn is different than regular porn
>>721213431>I CAN'T SEE
>>721213431People will say it's because the hardware sucked or whatever, which isn't even really true. The real answer is that it was building up a TON of momentum and then Facebook torpedoed it all by dumping a shitton of cash into trying to sell it as MUH METAVERSE when absolutely fucking nobody wanted that. It essentially burned VR in the eyes of the public and in the eyes of people with enough liquidity to make a decent VR game.If Valve makes an Alyx followup it'll probably reignite interest in VR by a fucking ton, because right now the main limiter is the lack of games. I'm still mad at the lack of good rail shooters.
>>721213431look at those dick sucking lips
>*stick 2 screens into your eyes*>dude virtual reality lmaoI can see motion controls having their niche but the fucking visor is cringe, retarded and gay.
>>721231387facebook also paid all the VR devs to abandon high end VR and scared off most of the hardware competition by buying up their supply chains and severely undercutting them
>>721213431no games
>>721227161nigger
>>721227161Guys i think hes a nigger
>>721227690Nah, I don't mean a full-blown neuro-experience. Just smaller, lighter headsets. More powerful, obviously. Higher resolution. No cords. Perfect controller tracking. It needs to be powerful enough for an amazing experience, but casual enough that you can slap it on for a 10-minute gaming session (not taking 10 minutes to set up in the first place). It's simply not there and we won't have the tech for another decade. But those simple refinements will be more than enough to get mainstream adoption. AI will also go a long way towards taking current games and adopting them to a VR setting quickly.
>>721227161>I KNEW WHEN I SAW DEM DRUMS A BUNCHA NEGROS WOULDA BEEN ALL UP ON DEM THANGS>BLACKS LUB DRUMSpeople don't say that anymore
>>721213431>everything's going well, VR is taking off, mostly thanks to the Quest 2 making VR easy and "cheap">Facebook gets their head up their ass and buys up a ton of VR specialists/companies>VR continues growing>Facebook goes all in on the Metaverse / Horizons shit>other companies are starting to rub their hands together, investing into it too>everyone's trying to invent some Quest 2 standalone competitors (or photoshopping out the wire in their ads)>Facebook finally dips their toes into the Metaverse via Meta Horizons>game absolutely booty-blast diarrheas the bed, makes back like 0.01% of its budget>nothing Facebook does saves the project, VR Chat stays king>so bad of a flop that they can't even gaslight/memoryhole their way out of it like companies usually do>every company that was expecting an easy win is now scared shitless, soiling themselves too>Facebook guts most of their VR stuff, which deflates VR as a whole since they were the ones propping it up>canceled headsets, canceled games, even a lot of indie devs run offRelated:>Apple decides to get into VR>people are happy because a big company funneling money in breeds competition and growth>AVP releases and is shit for a million reasons>flops, scaring off even more companies>Apple memoryholes it after a monthAlso related:>every investor on the planet funds Zenith, the VRMMO because ??? instead of Ilysia or Oathbreakers>devs clearly have no idea what the fuck they're doing outside of "let's just make a shit copy of SAO because that's popular">release the game with two (2) classes, "mage" (uses two guns) and not-Kirito (uses two swords)>game shits the bed, 99% of the fanbase is gone day 1>gameplay sucks too and there's no content>people 100% the game in a day (and get yelled at for "rushing")>finally add a new class like a year later: Cyber Ninja (uses two swords + bow)>updates all suck>game flatlines>investors mad>game gets a shit F2P mode and the devs disappear
>>721232801The sheer scale of the anti-marketing on display via misinvestment is astounding.Even Bethesda managed two "mods will fix it" VR conversions, and UEVR is converting games to VR as a fully fanmade effort, it wouldn't be hard for most games releasing now to have official VR modes.
>>721232801 (me)Also funny with Zenith was that the fanbase went pure cancer DAMN quick, felt a lot like the Star Citizen shit, it dove headfirst into cult status. Hell, if you asked anyone on their Discord server, basically 100% of people would agree that Zenith is the first-ever VRMMO, somehow, and even a few big journalists agreed, despite Orbus and Oathbreakers already being out, and that one Chinese (Korean?) VRMMO that already came and went before that too.The devs could do no wrong, if you don't like something you see about the game, shut the fuck up, you can't have an opinion until you've bought and played it for 100+ hours.I was one of those few people who stuck around after getting yelled at for being a "troll" for pointing out how shit the game was looking to be as a game, and I was called all kinds of names for choosing to wait to buy it (I never did) until I can verify that the game is good enough to buy. I was being as objective as I could (outside of being kinda autistic about how the game had no sword-and-board class), but nope, people would just shout at me like I'm insulting their religion.The game eventually released like someone constipated as hell painfully trying to squeeze out a giant log of shit, and people were still in full damage-control mode about this or that, yelling at people for getting refunds, shouting at people for "giving up" so easily.Time passed and the game never got better. Then more time passed and the very few actual content updates were ass clearly cobbled together in a panic, barely any of the Kickstarter rewards were fulfilled, even the game finally getting a third class went so shit that the devs had to cancel half of what the class was supposed to do and heavily simplify it and make it into a third dual-wielding class because ???Feels pretty vindicating that I was right about all my complaints and that they never got fixed.Still wish those idiot investors would've put their money towards better VRMMOs though.
Nah it's literally VR (180° SBS)The guy re-renders them for VR, we got the Luna riding clip this week, there's also a shitload of the other XV girls (the only good thing to come out of that game)Standard view porn just doesn't hit the same when VR exists>>721232536Pico does most of that already. I just use my home Wifi for all my connections with Virtual Desktopthrow it on, play some SuperHOT, take it off when I'm done. Plenty of charge for 2-3hrs of gaming.I also use it to play games in bed, like Monster Hunter works both in standard and with REframework VR
>>721213431>ME CAN'T BREATH x(
>>721234234first part of this was for: >>721230613
>>721227161SARSAAAAAAAAAARNO POOIN LOOBICHBASTERED
>>721213431The Oculus Fent?
>>721213495No such thing exists
>>721213729Doesn't work IRL
>>721213431NIGGERBOOJIGGERBOOCOLOREDCOONY
if it was just a replacement for a monitor with a bit of head tracking, that worked for normal games i would have been all in the minute they added motion controllers and forced all games on vr to use them it was dead to me. if i could play hl2 with a controller and a vr perspective i would have been all in, but instead we got hlA wich plays super slow and limited because of motion controls and roomscale. motion controls will never be fun for gaming long term and having to stand up and spin around while you have $1000 strapped to your face just sounds fucking annoying. i never even tried it after seeing the wii-mote style slop they made for it. if it was just a display option added to a games setting meant to be used seated and with a controller i would have loved it but those games fucking suck man. theres no suspension of disbelief, despite the inherent immersion of VR
>>721213431thought this pic was an ai basedjak
>>721239553Just use UEVR then, there's plenty of games that restrict themselves to head tracking.Controller based gameplay is also already super slow and VR controllers heavily overlap with conventional controllers in terms of their capabilities, so it seems like you're projecting the deficiencies of those games onto VR.
>>721226526Exactly. You want the minimum amount of "friction" or "resistance" between the neuron firing in your brain and the action happening on screen. Twitching your thumb a millimeter is infinitely less of barrier than having to pantomime some song and dance every time you want to reload your gun or whatever. In the end your just using a Wiimote (which to wit, people got sick of "waggling" instead of just being able to press a button after the novelty wore off) while standing really close to the TV.
>>721213431no big games and also makes people throw up and also headsets are too heavyI bought vr skyrim and had fun with it, but later got a neck fusion surgery and VR headset makes remaining disks hurtIn NMS my controllers don't seem to work and any VR-specific title is either not on steam or is just a mobile gameIt's good for watching movies though
>>721213431Many reasons but Facebook probably did more damage than good for it.
>>721228841god damn thats hot...
>>721215484i hate how the lighting looks in vr
>>721213431So is this the ultimate tourist test?If you start screaming about niggers instead of seeing the Dark Souls 1 serpent, you're not the one.
>>721213431I still play it regularly, although that's mostly flight sims.
>>721231387>>721231903Did Zuck ever explain his obsession with VR? Why did he throw $60 billion at it? Did he watch the Lawnmower man one day in 1992 and something broke in his brain? All he had to do was nothing, just let people make games for it and it would have come around naturally.Not now. VR is a money sinkhole as far as venture capitalists are concerned. $60b fucking gone into the Metaverse. Such an absurd thing to happen. Palmer Lucky could have just not sold Oculus too. So many things had to go not just wrong, but catastrophically stupid wrong for this to be our timeline.
>>721223602>high effort meme>with actual creativity Did I take a time machine to ten years ago?
>>721227161i'm supposed to see a soijak right...
>>721223602underratedhey everybody... EVERYONE!! STOP FIGHTING!!! CHECK THIS OUT!
>>721227161if you see it you're too far gone
VR gaming failed because they didn't make any VR games.
>>721213431Everything I hear about African culture makes me like it even moreI want a lip plate gf
>>721243697They made some VR games but people didn't buy enough of them => no more VR games.
>>721213431Clunky, expensive, no games.
>>721213431My only experience with it was the PSVR2. It was cool at first, definitely a different experience and I was quite impressed. I did have mild motion sickness, but it went away after a couple of sessions. After a couple of months I was over it, mostly because of how tedious it was to put the headset on, adjust the sweet spot, cable management and constantly thinking about my surroundings.It’s probably much better if you have a lot of space.The headset itself was a bit uncomfortable, heavy and quite finicky because of the small sweet spot. I also have hyperhidrosis so I’d get sweaty after longer sessions, especially around my forehead. Gran Turismo 7 with a racing wheel and pedals was great, but everything else I played felt gimmicky and clunky.
>>721227161> :O
>>721223602Honestly if there was one(1) good vr porn game, it'd be worth it. Also GOOD SHIT, anon.
>>721227161Yes, and?
>>721213431People are poor or make bad decision what to buy such as>quest shits>big screen beyond shit>pimax shitThere are epically good things out there like thishttps://youtu.be/Q9eM6gD6EXYbut people are too poor or too much off a morons to buy good product.
>>721226087>Anyways, what y'all niggas playin'?The Sonic CrossWorld demo works pretty well with UEVR. I'll be playing the single player content with it, but I assume it will be detected as a cheat if I tried to use it online, which is unfortunate. It gives loads more spatial awareness, so it would be cheating in a sense.
>>721213481Top lulz
you niggas out of your mind, VR is crazy good
>>721245210I'm gonna wait until they patch the game to run at more than 60fps because that sucks ass in VR and I'm also worried about the anti cheat preventing you to inject completely at all even if playing soloBut yeah the game is crazy fun in first person and feels way faster
>>721245963I don't think that they will patch it to go above 60 because really it's just a console game.
>>721213431Not everyone likes first-person games. It's really that simple. You know those smartphone screens that are sort-of-3D? When TVs and monitors can do that is when I think this sort of thing will really take off. >>721213729There's a difference between not wanting to look at nothing but sausage for a long game, and wishing that you're pretty-sparkle-kawaii in a dress.
>>721246180The thing that makes VR look good is scale where everything around you is the correct size. You can't replicate scale with a monitor, so they will never be able to take the place of VR. You also still get the same visual benefits in 3rd person games.
>>721215484Essentially this.VR should be like a display, you plug it to your PC and it works. Instead they wanted it to be an "experience". VR needs to be standardized before it becomes good, same thing had to happen before GPUs, gamepads, and sound cards really took off.The other thing is games justifying the purchase. There was a time when people didn't get a GPU because it wasn't worth it yet. VR needs a hit that everyone wants to play.
>>721213431because people expected Matrix/neuromancer/Sword art online or Star trek Virtual Reality, where you could enter a different World while you feel it with your senses and experience it without moving a single muscle in real life, instead we got a fucking monitor/phone glued to the eyes
>>721213431no true deep dive/ thread.
>>721246538I think people want 3-D more than they want VR.From my perspective VR will do the most damage when it can simulate a giant movie theater screen so ANY movie you want to watch is an IMAX experience. But that has nothing to do with gaming, and I also think the industry as a whole is keeping VR on a leash for the reason of protecting the movie theater experience.
>>721228841It's actually pretty fun. I like the purple landlady Botan more than the wannabe hime.>>721241454If someone can mod this to add different panties to the various females, it'll be a 10/10
>>721247018James Cameron showed up on the most recent Meta Connect to talk about movies and how he tried to push for 3D hard during his career.Basically he was saying that VR headsets are 100 times better tuned for a premium cinema feeling than most theaters are doing and in a few years with better resolution, luminance and color accuracy it will be his favourite way to view movies.
>>721247018This is peak VR cultist delusion. If they could make headsets with the 16k per eye you'd need for a movie like experience, they would. Running 32k screens when most people struggle to run 4k, though? Not really going to happen any time soon.
>>721243697kek
>>721213431Have to wait for people to be born with technology interfaces installed as babies or children, basically. I won't pretend to know the non-existent jargon but we need>A port on the skull that directly feeds electrical impulse to the brain>A technology or console that can be plugged into the port and send electrical impulse to the brain>Programs that can be coded to induce very specific hallucinations as interactable gamesUntil then VR is just "screen close to face" and/or "wiimote, but expensive," and cringe crap
>>721241454>Tanned tomboyYeah, my dick approves
>>721247193This is why I stopped using my movie projector after I got the quest 3 (quest 2 not even close)
>>721247018The thing with 3d is it "feels" like it has better resolution even when it doesn't when up next to 2d. But you can't really compare the 2 without being in a vr space with a 2d window around.
>>721243779Vr games sucked. Only vr modded games are worth anyone's time
>>721234234I prefer 3d converted (in standard aspect ratio) over vr180. Vr180 just looks like shit 90% of the time when 3d converted can be as low as 720p and still look good
>>721215484Only correct anon in this thread. Having "exclusivity" for VR headsets is beyond retarded and divided up an already extremely niche playerbase.
>>721228969Now all movies (all video and pictures) are 3d with a bit of a wait and its mostly free (if you can deal with the extra setup instead of the easier paid ones) at this point i dont even watch anything without first converting it to 3d
>>721228387Alyx actually sucks. Modded games are 10x better than alyx.
>>721227743Lol just say you have a shitty wifi setup
>>721225614>>causes nausea and headaches in like 1/3rd of peopleTell me about it. I've been powering through for years and I still can't make it past 30 min before I'm puking.
>Arizona Sunshine Remake+2 is 50% offAre they still worth buying for singleplayer? I don't have any friends to play co-op with, but Metro was pretty good
>>721215484is fallout 4 made good by playing in vr? never tried any bethesda games in vr
>>721250925Arizona sunshine sucked ass. Boring af. Why tf would they remake it
>>721251226Yes but you're supposed to mod tf out of it. And gotta find a more recent mod list cause nexus controversies keep having modders pull their mods.
>>721249754how?180 just needs 1440p quality to look almost lifelike, 3D converted is like watching porn on a 3DS screen it's just worse than flatscreen
>>721239553>motion controllers and forced all games on vr to use themAre you retarded? All vr simulators require a keyboard or a HOTAS
>>721246180>Not everyone likes first-person gamesYou're playing one 24/7, how are you coping>ummm actually it's fine that I play as womenOh, so not very well
>>721250925i played the original arizona sunshine and it sucks. there's basically no ammo even when hitting every zombie in the head, no melee weapons or l4d shove to avoid using ammo, every panic event drops invisible walls around the area that you unexpectedly back into while running around looking for fucking ammo, and the guns stick in your hands really really fucking bad when you need to switch because you only have one mag for each. hopefully remake improves it and adds melee, i should look up a video>>721251226it has some of the worst controls i've ever fucking seen, when you look at something it tells you a button but not on which hand, the same button on each hand does something different so you constantly do the wrong thing. using menus uses console controls instead of something better like a laser pointer from your hand. there's no way to rebind controls ingame so you have to rebind the controller themselves' buttons in steamvr, and then the game is telling you the wrong button for everything. and you need a special dll patch for the index because the game was designed for touchpad controllers instead of joysticks. but i admit once that's all sorted out it is fun leaning around rubble shooting raiders and console commanding piper to be 7 feet tall
>>721250925Shit games, sequel is bad too. There was just nothing else to play so they were relatively popular. Even VTMB Justice is better
>>721228841>>721247056Is it just a VN where you sit around reading text like an idiot? Or is it an actual adventure game with stuff to explore and puzzles/mini-games to play
>>721213729>"Playing" as a girl in real lifeI'm glad they acknowledge it's just delusions
>>721251990>3D convertedworks really well for 3D videos, the SFM kind. those are easy to convert too since they're so short
Quest 3 now or waitâ„¢ for the new Valve set?
Just tried 3D conversion with owl3d and it's pretty fast on stock settings like it took 90 seconds to convert and encode a 60 second clipI tried both half sbs and full and half is fucking dogshit. You lose so much quality.Surprisingly easy on the eye with the conversion. I remember 3D shit making me go crosseye and get a headache a few years ago
>>721252450Valve headset will be 1k+ so if you're poor just buy a Q3
>>721227401you should join him if you know what that is
>>721252220vn, but with exploration and minigames. like VA-hall-a, but you can walk around the town and do minigames like fishing, too.
>>721252452Apparently this is a better way to do it nowhttps://github.com/nagadomi/nunifhaven't tried myself though, only did owl3d too
>>721251226When you mod the fuck out of it, yesAlso we are getting physical reloading in the near futurehttps://youtu.be/49PHg5QjZbs
>>721252597>VN in VRWhat were they thinking... Reading is like the worst thing you can do in VR
>>721252603i tried nunif last year but I couldn't find settings that didn't make me want to gouge out my eyeballsif there's a way to somehow rip the settings from owl3d and plug them into that one 1:1 then i'd try it again but dude getting a headache for the rest of the day because of bad 3d is not on my list today
I'm glad other people saw it.
>>721252603Only better cause you can sideload new models that owl doesn't run yet (or they're in the beta branch planned for premium tier) but a hassle. Needs some very specific tuning for different models granted its just a field or 2 but if someone isn't spoonfeeding you during active testing period (in discord) when new model drops you will miss those details.
>>721241565That's an unfortunate consequence of them nerfing the outdoor lighting/shadows (hardcoded shadow distance/quality nerfs while outdoors, indoors uses full quality) and graphical options on VR (eg no SSAO or SSR and they didn't even bother making them render properly in VR)
>>721252753No. The gouge eyeballs thing is in reference to primarily 3d strength. It let's you turn it way up than what looks good. Back when I was using owl it rarely mattered how high I tried to set the 3d strength. On distilled models I dont go above 3. On the older vda models I couldn't go above 2. Theres some newer vda models I was able to crank up to 6 on animated but meatspace looked like shit. Currently I stick to distilled cause its fast and pretty good quality. The current best stuff if you have the gpu for it are the ones that use inpainting. I think owl has one in the beta branch or it did a few months back from what I heard. For those nunif won't work i think, you're supposed to use like stereocrafter I think
>>721253289Piggyback question but do you know a site where people share already converted videos?
>>721253460No. Dmca is a problem everywhere. If you have a paid cloud you can usually link/host something but the free ones aren't large enough for 3d video. There was a vr thread running in the wg board >>>/wg/8085966 but its probably dead already or about to be. Main poster stopped posting. It was mostly cam girls and movie clips as music wallpapers. Its not a blue board so 18+ is allowed
>>721213431Simply almost no real games
>>721253887This is basically how I listen to music now but it takes a ton of hard drive space. I have like 1terrabyte dedicated to just 3d "wallpapers"
>>721253887Ah shame. Cool thread I guess but I've got zero interest in 3D gooning.
>>721215452A top down grand strategy type thing, especially a sci-fi one, could be fun in VR. I'm in my command bubble ordering my ships and armies around my vast domain.
>>721254159Try the demo for this gamehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3778980/BattleGroupVR2_Demo/
>>721253460Actually I forgot wallpaper engine you can but nobody does (currently). They won't dmca you for the most part but they will hit you for anything that can be considered "sexualized" but mostly only if it trends. Despite 90% of their content being hard-core hentai porn. Their moderation makes no sense to me
>>721254159I think homeworld is supposed to be vr moddable. Verify first tho
RE4 OG on Quest 2 is the best VR game. Sony and Zucc paying for exclusivity on these games/modes is fucking ass.>>721223602Too much effort for a wank
>>721252941Owl isn't free, and I don't see a pirated copy floating anywhere
>>721254275But when I was posting on there I was getting average 40 Downloaders for regular ones and 400-1k if it was a sexy woman. China hours seemed to be prime hours at a ratio of 2 to 1. China vr market must be at least twice that of western vr market
>>721254604It's free for 1min clips but unlimited 1min clips (or at least used to be). I used to just restitch them in a video editor after. Nunif is the free one, look for it on github
>>721254460What's this effort people talk about? Press a button to turn it on, put it on, you're in.
>>721213431because it's a meme
>>721213431I don't know. I'm personally not into it because the vidya I enjoy isn't vidya that would be improved by VR perspective. But I get that wider VR adoption would be cool for others, so I wish you the best of luck
>>721222036that's the gayest gay concept i ever heard, kill yourself immediately
>>7212134311. It's expensive2. It's full of grifters. Literally any useful tool is proprietary and costs 10 bucks.3. The average software is shit. It's made to awe prople who use it for the first time and no serious use.4. Since it's unpopular for the reasons above, it doesn't get dev support to fix its faults.6. As others said, the system is split between the meta platform having the biggest share for developing cheap gear, and others costing $1000. Meta, being the most globalized spyware company in the world, reduces their liability by restricting everyone to their ecosystem, making you go through hoops to install third party software and forbidding you from wiring to PC without using their proprietary drivers.The real innovations in here are VR JAV porn. I've only tried Koikatsu in VR so far and there's a lot of trouble setting the controls, awkward bugs etc which make you unable to relax.Everyone else just make shitty toys like AR fps and so on.>tldr niche applications, expensive cost of entry, shit software and support, proprietary handrails
>>721255093I don't think 200 bucks for a 4k display and 3 controllers is expensive
>>721255093It's always poors who are the problem, isn't it?
>>721255697>>721255603>Meta trash>$300-400>PSVR>$400>Other options>$800-2645
"Virtual reality" makes it sound like TRON movie where you literally experience the video game. But in reality the only notable change is you use your head to look around instead of mouse which is harder and more annoying. Not to mention shitty wii controllers instead of superior kbm.That will be dozens of billions of dollars.
>>721256312I literally got my uncle to try pavlov yesterday and he thought the 3d aspect, motion controls and being in the game was mind blowing.Last games he played was crash bandicoot on the ps1.
>>721213431Looks like a fucking APE
>>721213431Everyone who shilled and fell for the VR meme on /v/ is a giga retard
I got a Meta Quest 3S, was hoping to have fun doing world-hopping in VRchat only to find that the screen really is kinda shit. Everything has a slightly blue tint to it, dark things are way too backlit. Should've known better and spent more. At least it's still fun to fuck around with friends
>>721256474brown
>>721256312Even if there were no advantages over KBM, which there are since VR controllers have full 6DoF tracking in addition to significantly more fidelity than Wiimotes, VR motion controllers are vastly better than the current controllers that all console games and therefor most games on the market are designed around.The hate against Wiimote is primarily based around the misleading marketing and the inherent downsides of fixed console control schemes leading to the forced use of Wiimote shaking to perform any action, something that just isn't the case in VR.Ultimately the usefulness of KBM is significantly lower in VR, because all of the same advantages that make the Mouse better than the analog thumbstick for 2DoF still persist for VR controllers, except you now have 3 controllers with full 6DoF.
>>721256312>Not to mention shitty wii controllers instead of superior kbm.That means fuck all. Racing games and tapping A-D gets me to 99% of my best lap time. I didn't dump 500 bucks in a wheel with force feedback, a h-shifter and a handbrake to "improve" my scores but to increase the enjoyement I get out of the fucking game.Same shit, I use a flight stick and throttle to play mechwarrior and my aim is considerably worse than using a mouse and yet I would never play any other way.You're a gay baby that will forever be miserable irl no matter what. Stick to your from slopware.
>>721225614Every VR game use teleporting, where a black screen block your view in 2 seconds. Moving in a VR space with thumbsticks? You need $1000 treadmill for "walk" inside of VR
>>721256312Stop being a fatass.
>>721256902Dude, I can't adjust fucking speed in koikatsu with vr controllers since they don't have a scroll wheel. It's awkward to press any control in the tony-stark screens while hands are trembling with acathisia. VR controllers ARE shit. I don't judge their performance in VR things, but they're shit simply because they're gimped controllers lacking a shit ton of buttons and every application must build around their limitations.While the ecosystem keeps focusing on first-time players and keeping things minimal for their ease of use, the thing will only be a shitty toy.
>>721252158so true. its so hard trying to find any games to play in VR because 90% of the time you only come across retards shilling dogshit. its always the same fucking games too
>>721256902Being able to roll your view means nothing when trying to click or track. So it's not a competitive advantage. And you'll put the gun in your face to aim better anyway making the separation of gun from eyeballs meaningless in fact a downgrade. Mouse is just faster and better.VR is for porn/erp nothing else.It's not a legitimate way to play vidya.
>>721257620>still playing indie trash and complainingstop asking
>>721226526You're right. Full motion controls can be fun as a gimmick, but that's all they are.VR should have primarily been considered an immersive viewing method, by far the best way to use it is as an enhancer for ordinary games that you'd still good play without VR. UEVR saved the platform for me.
>>7212565533s is basically a quest 2. Youre supposed to get a quest 3 for the lenses
>>721213431>janky as fuck>huge hardware costs>motion sickness,>room and space requirements>impractical (wrestle with wires or deal with batteries and latency)>no killer appjust some of the most glaring issues
>>721258194>pepe reaction image>strawman with no correlationpost hands
>>721257349I don't think that's an inherent disadvantage to VR controllers, it's just the stagnancy of the market.It would be ideal if games were more supportive of rebinding controls and if there were open standards for VR controllers that all headsets adhered to so that we could get more niche controllers, rather than each headset releasing a low-risk set of Rift clones.
>>721258329>>huge hardware costsbrown
>>721245963>vision stays steady despite car spinning and flippingWhat's even the point then?
>>721258008
>>721259106
>>721259084>yes goy just drop $700 on a headset to chat a few hours a day with strangers on a glorified chat room. everyone has that much casually lying around to spend in a heartbeat right
>>721259694brown
>>721258726Someone has to put in risk and the companies aren't willing to dip into the niche experimental project. The grifter dev scene isn't willing to risk wasting dev time in polishing programs for a platform nobody uses.
>>721259694good morning, sir!
>>721259694nta but I got a used vive pro for like $500, tax not included. I also have a Steam Deck. Do I use them everyday? No way lmao, but it's nice to have when I want to try something different or can't use a PC.
>>721213431>expensive>uncomfortable>motion sickness>nogaems
Lack of space. Most gamers have a single room with a bed and desk taking up the space. Most living rooms have a couch and coffee table the mom tells you not to hir. VR couldn't work because people don't have room to play it.
Need Helldivers but in VRI want REAL PTSD from fighting clankers in the binary-speaking jungles of space 'Nam, and bugs with retards who don't understand how to deal with breaches
>>721213431Lack of quality VR games to attract people who have a general interest in games but no particular interest in VR. When Alyx came out, the internet was ablaze because it was not only excellent, but specifically because people who didn't have VR wanted to play this VR game too. VR needed a lot more games like that to pull people in, instead it just got arena and "roguelite" shit that has like 2 cool VR mechanics and gets old in 2h because there's no actual fucking game. And shovelware, a lot of fucking shovelware.>>721215484>and all so they could just use research from it to fuel their attempt at making the "next smartphone" with their AR glassesNah, they wanted to make the "metaverse" which failed in a most impressive manner. This AR glasses shit is just them attempting to salvage what they can from that utter trainwreck.
As someone who has a VR headset and isn't a faceberg tard>It's 2025 and the only good game is still alyx>People pinned way too much stake in VR chat only for them to go full in on groomers gooners and nft tards>Valve abandoned Steam Home and didn't even release a SDK for Linux users meaning it has no devs (VRchat could just import shit from unity and its dev tools work on linux)>The entirely self destructive marketing of it being a replacement for standard displays and not a niche alternative (both not actually a problem and also THE reason 3D displays are a dead tech)>It's a giant pain in the ass to use 2D applications in VR/AR and relies on a ton of paid middleware that you'd have legitimately ZERO way to know about as a casual user who hasn't had a headset since the oculus or vive originally came out>Devs have ENTIRELY unrealistic expectations of what is a fair price for software they slapped together in a week in Unity with prefabs
>>721260451>>It's 2025 and the only good game is still alyxstopped reading hereyou are retarded, opinion discarded
>>721260517Cope, seethe, cry, you know I'm correct, and the sooner you accept this, the sooner we can have better VR games.
>>721260605alyx is trash and you are a fucking idiot
>>721260046I think VR is best played from the comfort of an office chair. Controllers should be optimised for moving in the VR environment. Making people do effort by moving unnecessarily, walking etc is fucking retarded, research should be put into the significance of human movement. I don't mind extending my hands to grope a virtual girl, leaning to the side to not clip into her head is heart, but having to move around her, do complex movements etc is retarded.
>>721260517you only proved his point lmao
Because it costs too much.Standalone is fine but the majority enthusiast market had already invested in PCs and chained headsets, so, all the devs follow the money and make games for chained headsets, or worse, try to make it for both chained and wireless, and then you get two distinctly different games, usually the one that gets more sales gets updates and the other gets ignored. Green hell VR is a great example. quest version outsold steam like 700:1, so it's got full co-op, three full updates, tons of performance fixes and now even looks better, hilariously.VR is basically doomed to be a quest platform thing forever until someone else comes out with another all-in-one device, under $500, and will sync with steam easily. People are still coping about a steam headset but I don't think they're really going to do it, if they haven't at this point.Wireless is a non-negotiable for most people, it's just a fact, sadly.
>>721257114every PCVR game uses OpenVR, so unless you're stuck with Quest standalones, any game should be able to move around like this using the grip move function in OVRAS.
>>721260605>>721260648NTA but I find Alyx pretty mid and lately me and 3 friends got into dungeons of eternity and we are having a blast so I dont think you are right.
>>721260108>I want REAL PTSDThat reminds me, what are games where you stab women? Asking for a friend (my boner). Surely it's ok to ask because violence is not sexual and we see it all the time in movies.
>>721260790Wireless is fine but how the fuck does anyone tolerate the shit refresh rate?
>>721223602JEJ
>>721261067How shit are we talking? 72 is ok for social garbage and 90 is enough for racing and other stuff.I only use 120 when playing vrfps competitive sloppa.
>>721261201I mean, unless you're using it next to your router, the thing will stutter nonstop whatever you do. Do people buy custom routers to play wireless VR? I would think people who can't be assed to use a wired connection wouldn't care enough to buy one.
>>721213431Zuckerberg killed it
>>721260762only a braindead retard would call alyx a good gamehe has no point, because his iq is too low>>721260790>Because it costs too much.brown>>721260893>me and 3 friends got into dungeons of eternity and we are having a blastdungeon of eternity is such a garbage game, I really wonder why you didn't like alyxboth of those games have "80 iq drooling retard" as the target audience after all
>>721260932Blade and sorcery if you wanna be a murder hobo
>>721261384I have very minimal framedrops when streaming and I turned off videobuffering to save like 10ms of input lag.You just need to find the balance between bitrate, codec and framerate that works with your router. Now I did spend 200 bucks on a high end wifi 7 router so I could play at 120 with no drops I'll admit but stable 90 with buffer on is possible even on 50 dollar trash.
>>721260932Definitely Blade and Sorcery for viscerally respecting womenIf you want regular old sadism there's Blood Trail
>>721260046I think the single room scenario is arguably the least problematic.A desk can be moved towards a wall, the bed can just be chosen to maximize floorspace. If you have a room to yourself and it's not a closet or doubling as all your storage space, you have room for VR and VR becomes arguably more space efficient than TVs and monitors in that single room.Where you run into issues is when you share the space with other people or have couches and tables in the middle of a room.Even if you don't have room, simulators can all be played seated and there are numerous seated VR setups.>>721260790PCVR streaming just werks and is how I use my headset.
>>721261494>dungeon of eternity is such a garbage gameOpinions. It actually feels like a complete game and not a tech demo which is like 90% of all VR games.As for Alyx is not that I didnt like it, its just that it gets boring as you play it, I started playing it 3 times and 3 times I dropped it before finishing it. I might finish it next time I pick it up.
>>721213431Too expensive (needs good gpu + headset)Lack of games because of Zuckerberg fuckery
>>721223602Captain Vidya's ribald brother
>>721261729>It actually feels like a complete game and not a tech demo which is like 90% of all VR games.It what way? It's barebones trash. 3-room "dungeons" with braindead enemies who just walk into you. The whole game is just completely retarded grind of piss easy missions to roll weapon gacha. A complete waste of time. If you are older than 12 and find that shit enjoyable, you should be euthanized.
>>721215484This. I wanted in but wasn't going to deal with Fuckerberg.
>>721261494>brownnah, just a realist, you have to be real about why the fucking platform has been around for 15 years and still hasn't broken past "experiences". The only titles to make proper use of the platform are STILL fucking sandboxes the user has to fucking put the good shit into (b&s, bonelab, h3)
since these headset display monitors is nothing but a meme now, when do we get actual full-dive VR that feels like you have been transported into another world? I feel like there's a lot more in it for investors since there is many NEETs like me who don't like real life
>>721262193brown
>>721213431The games suck, but it's not really worth making good games because there's no market share.
>>721262231>but it's not really worth making good games because there's no market share.braindead cope, ps5 has 0 games too, despite dominating the market share
>>721262109I dont know what to tell you, with 3 people the difficulty scaled up and we upped the main difficulty as well so the dungeons feel very challenging and everyone is having fun.I got it for 20 buckaroos and my friends for even less and have gotten many hours out of it and we are still not even at max level, it feels like a game.
>>721262372you are a drooling retard, and that's fineenjoy your crayons
>>721262445I think you are just jaded and cant enjoy things anymore. Have fun in your gooncave using the VR just to fap.
>>721262578No, I just have a working brain and that thing, called standards. You wouldn't know anything about that though.
>you are just jaded and cant enjoy things anymore
>>721262194How are you going to make money (or why would you make money) for those investors if you can just deep dive into a virtual world all day instead?
another of the zigger schizo shitting on everyone playing videogames
>>721262660>>721262786This is how mad you are.
>>721262914go back to your containment thread, retarded troon
>>721263041call 117 and do the world a favour
>>721262878hes probably going to wageslave for 8 hours and then spend another 8 hours playing his favorite SAO clone packed with a shitton of microtransactions and spend all his money on it, just like thirdie gacha life players
>>721263041
>>721261410so it is jews every time
>>721263150right after you dial 8
>>721262194NeverEven if it ever exists it won't be for the goylem slave caste (that's you and the majority of the human race, in case you were wondering)
>>721213431>Valve capable of creating a budget headset and selling it at a loss>Every VRFag with a Index comes out of the woodwork coping and malding>NOOOOOO VALVE IS ONLY INTERESTED IN PUSHING VR TO THE EXTREME>NOOOOOO VALVE CAN'T SELL IT AT A LOSS THEY'RE NOT FACEBOOK (Ignore the literal casino they're running with CS2)VRFags only have themselves to blame, really.
>play for 90mins>refund>goes back to playing elden ring or deadlock (lmao)>"LET ME TELL YOUR ABOUT YOUR VR GAMES"
>>721234234Every site I find doesn't let you download VR videos without a sub
>>721227161LMAO
Looks like thgere's currenty a VR sale; any good games worth getting?Had my eye on Superhot but apparently it's a really short???Also is it just me or are all these noname games pretty pricey
>>721263643No way this isn't AI generated
>>721263474Based
>>721263878Niggers are unfortunately real.
We're simply not there yet.
>>721241565that's mostly due to Unity having shitty lighting on a low-end hardware.PCVR on UE5 or UE4 with Ray-tracing, actually looks pretty amazing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy9dlmvciQE
>>721264279just seeing that fps alone gives me motion sickness
>>721250116i have a usb cable for pcvr with it, and it works just like it did with my cv1 just with less cables. i have zero issues with the link cable. yeah, i don't have super duper wifi 7eac or whatever the fuck, and it's not fast enough to play wirelessly with my pc without artifacting and shit, but having a wire literally never bothered me before.i think you missed the real point i was trying to make in that there are zero fucking new games or concepts for it since the cv1 came out. nothing new has happened.
>>721213431Any game recommendations with good single player campaign? already played Alyx, RE8 and Behemoth
>>721261384>Do people buy custom routers to play wireless VR?Yes? Having a dedicated access point for your headset is common practice to avoid exactly what you're complaining about, and has the added benefit of preventing them from phoning home to Facebook because it doesn't need to be connected to the internet since it's just a display for what's happening on your PC
>>721264451unreal scales terribly with higher resolutionsif you drop down to 2000x2000 (total 4k) per eye then it runs okay for most games but then you get low quality shiti don't remember exactly where the bottleneck is but I know that the 4090 and 5090 have a massive advantage to get playable experiences because of the huge memory bandwidthon my 4080 I can't render anything above 2500*2500 per eye or it'll start dropping frames hard
>>721261384Yes we do. Didn't need it but wanted the boost (double the speed)
>>721264602Real vr players dont play "made for vr" games. We play UEVR because vr devs are busy making baby games for literal babies
>>721245210>UEVR
>>721263857Last Clockwinder is great.Riven is an amazing game but I don't know if they fixed the VR port, which launched with shadow issues.
>>721264894lol> because vr devs are busy making baby games for literal babiesthat is true though
>>721265038Yes we know some people are to retarded to not be spooned everything like an iPhone app. That's a feature not a bug. It filters the braindead
thinking of getting bigscreen VR 2but I heard it has really bad binocular overlapso it will look weird in VN porn when they put the girl's brapper close to your face
>>721265376kill yourself
>>721213431Something has to be convenient besides being "cool"
>>721265478nah, it just needs worthwhile content which makes people put up with inconvenience
>>721264894>Real vr players play halfbaked bullshit to turn regular games into SHOOTY SHOOTY on the vr headsetthis doesn't surprise me whatsoever, but even doing that, it's not a new concept
>>721265558Alyx didn't convince anyone, nor would Half Life 3
>>721259165
>>721265638because alyx wasn't a good game
People couldn't be arsed to waggle a stick on the Wii or wear 3D glasses for blu rays. Why the fuck would anyone want to wear a clunky goggle on their face? People are lazy and just want to sit with a controller. The only way you can make it succeed is to make it lazier than games already are
>>721265661holy kekpost more!
Tried a Quest 2 and it was blurry low resolution shit, Have headsets improved a lot since then?
People rag on FO4 for being a shitty VR port but being accosted by a VERY large and VERY pissed off deathclaw in VR is a pants browning experience
>>721265727> it was blurry low resolution shittry proper pcvr, quest 2 was not the problem, it has decent panels
>>721265765Has modding saved it like it did for Skyrim yet? I recall it having very poor support not even 2 years ago
>>721264787just further proof that vr aint ready yet
Speaking from the perspective of someone who has both the hardware and space to play VR, and has seen plenty of games that interest me that are VR exclusive. There's simply too many games in the market for me to justify buying a VR headset and changing my set up. This applies to any game that comes out above the price of 40 Eurodollars too. Shit is getting more expensive now, but there's also an overabundance of entertainment as well, so I simply cannot be bothered paying a bunch of money for a select few games that can only be played under specific circumstances, when there's other alternatives for cheaper.
>>721265667you'll just use that as an excuse for every game
>>721265038It just works. I didn't even change any settings since I obviously want to see my character in kart racer focused on characters.
>>721265765reddit the post
>>721265881It's improving, FRIK had some major updates this year, some key f4se stuff got ported to VR, we got better holstering and there's physical reloading on the way, you can play Fallout London in VR as wellSome good momentum this year for FO4VROne of the weapon mods for VR figured out real picture in picture scopes as well
>>721213495https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEZsGUqgtHQ
>>721266029alyx objectively was not good, it was mogged by hl2vr mod of all thing, that's how hard valve fucked up
>>721265679>people couldn't be arsed to waggle a stick on the WiiWii sold a shit ton though you dumbdumb
if you are poorfag with no space, you should totally get rid of your boomer western bed and get an authentic japanese futon so you can easily move it to play VR. very comfy setup
>>721266104You sound like an expert on Reddit, perhaps you should return and stay there
>>721266153excellent to hear. Thanks for the update anon
>>721265474whyam I wrong
>>721266252unfortunately people like you make sure I get enough reddit experience even browsing /v/
>>721265881skyrimvr sucks even with mods doughbeit. combat is nothing special and questing is boring
>>721266221I got this instead of a futon for more playspace
>>721266305I linked the physical reloads showcase earlier in the thread if you want a teaser for what's to come, cylonsurfer is a fucking wizard
>>721266221If you're a poorfag you don't really get a choice on what furniture you get in your rented apartment and you can't exactly throw existing one out.
>>721266981maybeI live at my boomers
>>721266194HL2 objectively was not good
>>721266205Yeah and it sat on shelves collecting dust because everybody went back to playing their Xbox instead. That's why Nintendo never made another console with motion controls and the main option. People didn't give a fuck about it past the first couple uses
>>721266981wait you rent furnished apartments? lol
>>721268342I literally don't have a choice in my city, rented apartments are all made with the idea of renting them and bringing their landlords profits, so they all have cheap extensible sofas and shit.
>>721213481GIBS ME DAT
>>721213431because it's only good for porn, but big studios nor any other company wants to do any of these
>>721213431Everyone tried to rush into mainstream success during the experimentation phase. However, mainstream success requires having enough solid foundations to minmax, which they skipped over. It's like trying to make a Ubisoft slop open world game before the core formula was even figured out.So you get stuff like Batman and Asgard's Wrath where no one can be paid to give a shit about.
are any of the facebook exclusives even good?I don't want to get a quest because I hate their way of doing things but idk
>>721266221>authentic japanese futonBut those only work because tatami floors are way softer than normal floors.
>>721270068nta but bedframes are a memejust put a normal mattress on on the floor and lean it against the wall if you need space
>>721270068feels fine on carpet, but it's a bit thicker futon than the typical japanese one I think
>>721223602+1
>>721242012Zuck hates VR, he wants AR glasses and VR is just a stepping stone for him. He raped the VR industry and then he's just going leave it raped and move on to AR (that's also going to flop)
>>721266221>making room to wagglanno thanks
>>721270228As long as you're not giving up the boxspring. The difference between sleeping on just a mattress and a mattress on a boxspring is night and day.
>>721270509Why would you need room for waggling controllers? Just sit and waggle.
Why does it look like George Floyd?
>>721223602lmaoing my ass off
>>721266221>yessss *rubs hands together*... throw out your furniture and buy "authentic" japanese bedding at marked-up pricing... don't you want to be like an authentic samurai? only $300! (for the cheap stuff)No thanks, fag.>$99
>>721270019haven't tried it but i saw they have RTCW for quest if you do a bunch of shit to get it from your pc to the headset
>>721215484The insane cope of anyone using the jewy rat Fuckerberg as their only scapegoat never ceases to amaze me. Even if he never fucked over Oculus, there are plenty of problems VR would still have. Comfortability. Control schemes. Motion inputs still being ass. Price point. Ease of use. Good hardware (which is strongly related to price). Software, obviously as well. There's just too many obstacles for VR to take off. It's like people think there would be this alternate paradise where there are hundreds of millions VR headsets sold that are $200 bucks with OLED pancake lenses, 200hz displays, no ghosting, and whatever the fuck if he hadn't entered the market.
>>721213431why? because it requires some physical movement beyond just fingers, fat faggot on here could never stand for that (literally)
>>721213431it looks like a star fox 64 character but im not sure which one
>women don't want to have it attached to their heads since it messes up their makeup so that's half the potential gone>zoomies and genalpha have to compulsively check their phone every 5 seconds so they can't have the VR set interfere with that so that audience is gone as wellall you're left is millennials that compulsively buy overpriced gadgets to fill the void in their life, but that's not enough to sustain this particular business modelbottom line is nobody wants to have a device of that size attached to their face for longer periods. they might try it out a couple of times and go "wow this is cool" and then the usage drops off sharply
ar > vrsimple as
>>721271953you can link your phone to windows and see your phone notifications in VR
>>721247193headsets are not comfy enough yet to replace monitors for movie viewing IMO. It needs to be as easy and light as putting on glasses or at least goggles. They have a very expensive goggles option now but its 1k.
>>721228841>>721252220>>721252665Yeah this, I tried the demo and it looked great, comfy etc, but not only do I dislike VNs but a VN in VR is pretty questionable. Maybe with lighter headsets, but with the typical consumer brick if I'm putting that on I want to do VR stuff.The only VN I like is ace attorney and VR ace attorney would be god tier though
>>721271971ar is also dead since meta is doing glasses
>>721256312thanks for your opinion pajeet, your cousins already told us though
>>721258008An analog stick is a massive downgrade from a mouse and FPS was still the most popular genre on console for years. I would say you don't know what you're talking about but even you know enough to dismiss your own opinion with common knowledge. You're just an idiot
>>721272984Controllers have extremely powerful aim assists
>>721273170And?
>>72127197130 years from now it will be when I can go outside wearing AR glasses and see AR shit all over the neighborhood. Right now it's even more gay and useless than VR
This is pretty good
>>721273243Are you going to implement aimbots in VR as well so they don't get cucked by kbm players?
>>721274035Not needed
>>721274094That was not even remotely as fast as a mouse. Your whole arm can't possibly move as fast as just your wrist
>>721266701Oh fuck, I didn't see that. That's awesome dude!
>>721274035If there was a crossplay game that would probably be a good idea, what does this have to do with anything?
>>721213431The only genres available for it are first person shooters and first person meme reddit physics-based streamerbait
>>721274193your wrist can
>>721274035It just needs to be good enough for zoomers to shit on you so you can throw your mouse at the wall in impotent rage
>>721250925Check key site anon! VR games are typically cheaper on 3rd party sites. The deluxe edition isn't on sale and I got it for WAAY cheaper on kinguin
>>721270019Basically just RE4 which is1.) just okay2.) remake version on PSVR2The rest are kusoge. Source: played basically all of them
>>721271515At the very least we would have had good Linux headsets from the start, since he canned the promised Oculus Linux release in favor of taking money from Microshit to push Windows 10.
Feels like there's a hundred different minor reasons why it doesn't work, and every individual person has at least a handful of those problems as their issues. I'd use my quest more if I didn't live in shithole America where housing is a direly precious commodity that is massively overpriced and developers only build expensive homes because it's more profitable. Which is to say if I had a small fucking spare room or some other area to move around I'd use it more, but shitholes are shitholes so I simply cope with my cuck space that is not conducive for VR. It would appear VR simply will not take off until America collapses and is rebuilt to be less gay and jewish.
>>721274193The whole reason for mouse precision and speediness is that you use your whole arm instead of just your wrist.
>>721254159There's an anon here making one like that, but it's not sci-fi
>>721274035gamepads playing kbm with crossplay was rare and never anywhere close to becoming a standard feature. You're asking hypotheticals about things that don't even need to happen. So to give you the answer you wanted, no someone will not be cross playing CS2 in VR. No shit
>>721232616people dont have scat fetishes either
>friends constantly annoying me to play lasertag, paintball, airsoft, nerf>explain to them over and over that these human interface methods are inferior to a mouse and keyboard and If I could play these games with a mouse and keyboard I would destroy them and show them my superiority for choosing a superior input method>friend gets vr and asks me to play some shooter>explain my usual thesis>he tells me eyetracking in VR is faster and more accurate than my arm will ever be, that he simply needs to look at me and I will dieI'm literally shaking and crying right now bros. How do I respond?
>>721263878Niggers are not ai generated, very unfortunely.And you can feel when its official ai slop and when its real or cia grade ai slop.
VR is good for watching with your friends
It's very comfy
because VR games have to be VR exclusive to be good. anything with vr support bolted on sucks. nobody wants to make vr exclusive games because the market is small. it's as simple as that. you would have to bundle vr headsets with a console somehow, or make some attachment for the switch that turns it into a vr headset.
>>721275538>2013>oh my god imagine the amazing gundam VR game that's going to be made. It's going to be like piloting a real gundam>2025>you can watch gundam cartoons with your friends pretending to be anime girls
>>721213729lipstick blowjob
>>721275735Becoming anime is the entire point of VR
This webm caused people to spend thousands on VR setups.
>>721275965there's an morbidly obese latinx male with acne all over his face and chest behind that avatar btw
>>721276050
>>721275728I played Halo VR and it was one the best experiences I've had. Skyrim VR is still one the best VR games. The half life 2 VR conversions are fantastically done. I played superhot VR the other day and was surprised to learn it was initially a flat game. VR subnautica would be god tier but the mod only got so far and the developers are faggots. I can't quickly think of a first person game that wouldn't be improved by a VR conversion even if you can't meet every standard for a ground up VR game. You just need 6dof aiming / melee weapons.
>>721276050hot
>>721276242forgot doom VFR which only sucks because it was designed for vive controllers but it still works. Waiting on an oled headset to play doom 3 but I didn't like doom 3 flat so I don't know if VR is going to make a difference.
>>721276050but it's not talking so i don't have to think about that
>>721274360how many hours a day do u have to be spending in vr to get this good wtf
>>721274360Single most overrated aim training exercise ever.Those huge targets trains bad habits by making you not care about precision. You need small targets to improve your precision. THEN slowly work on your speed. Any training exercise involving giant targets is extremely bad for 99% players who lack fundamentals to begin with.Targets' spawning places are also too close together so you barely need to move the crosshair.I know this post is disingenuous bait but just gotta point that out for non shooter fags.
The 1) economical barrier of entry was high, 2) the experience rather unpleasant with motion sickness until you grew a resistance to it and 3) the actual library of games was very small. Add to that 4) game design issues like how the player was initially supposed to move with a node system without vertigo. Even now the solution is usually to design a game with nodes or very small playing areas or just to be played while sitting down. That limits the scope of games. Which led to 5) VR just doesn't have many games tailored just for it, most are just glorified chatrooms or "real" games with a VR mode.
>>721275728All VR cockpit games do not need to be VR exclusive and in spite of everything Bethesda has shown that you only need to make a passable modding framework that can be used to expand even a subpar effort into something that people will praise, so a dev team that actually gives a shit and knows how to make a game can throw in an expandable VR mode during a gamejam without that much more effort.
>>721274360The debate about VR shooting vs mouse is always the aiming, but if you play something like doom VFR where you get pressured by a lot of enemies you'll realize its actually turn speed that needs to be talked about. Your turn speed is going to closer to an analog stick than a mouse because you can only swing your body so fast. Do I give a shit? no.
>>721276461huh when I wanted to get good at vr fps I was reading some comments about the best aimers at the time and they barely just said that doing basic ass drills for 30min per day is enough to get this fastyou dont really use the sights anyway 90% of the tiem
there's tons of made for 2D games that would be very fun with VR option if they just put a tiny bit of effort into it
>>721276482hard to say because this is VR with only a small window out of his full field of view, just because you perceive them as big in this frame doesn't mean its big compared to flat games. The target size is about the same as the width of his gun's slide. Do with that information what you will
>>721275735No offense but if you don't understand the value positional audio provides to social situations you might be genuinely retarded
>>721252753Hold up turns out I'm wrong. Nunif does have an i paint one. I'm testing it now. You have to switch branches to an inpaint branch then update. I'm doing this on a potato 1080 so I dont expect it to work. Its working but super fucking slow 5x as much time imma let it finish tho
>>721277232>social situations on a video games boardcome on now
Can't the best shooters in the world do shit like shoot coins in the air with real guns? Quit being a pussy. Yes using a 2 dimensional device stabilized by a flat desk is going to assist you. But you're still a bitch that doesn't want to find the limits of your mind and body if you will only use that.
>>721277340Multiplayer games are inherently social. You don't have to be a normalfag to engage in social behaviour.
>>721276774https://youtu.be/3i4aC0wU5uM?t=473
>>721277232No offense but if you thought that was the point of my post you are genuinely retard no questions asked
>>721277232You're completely dodging the point of all of these people being absolute fags and repulsive to anyone else
>>721277340One of the first VR experiences i had was some multiplayer Bridge Crew. We did a few missions together, and then I realized we'd spent 40 minutes chatting in the briefing room.VR is inherently social.
>VR shootersIt must be so amazing to get immersed in a game where there's no physical feedback from the gun and the firing sounds like someone hitting a table with a plastic ruler. I do envy you.
>>721277554It feels great reloading and operating a gun, even when it's virtual.
>>721277554>and the firing sounds like someone hitting a table with a plastic rulerWhat games are you talking about? Because the shot sounds in Alyx and H3VR are great.
>>721277278Inpaint. Already dropped down to 2.5 hours so 2.5x as long not 5x
>>721213431Its not VR. Its just shit goggles on your face. Wake me up when we reach matrix level.
>>721213431When meta releases their binocular display meta rayban glasses with the horizon store and horizon+, VR is going take off again>>721277554If you'd rather lose your hearing you're welcome to turn your volume up
>>721277554I really think zuck needs to be strapped to the hood of a car for not providing a premium audio option for the quest 3. And that's being nice, The quest 2 should've had it too. Playing alyx in the index/revergb g2 then going to the quest, I realized most people were only getting half the sensory input from this game.
>>721277157They are very bighttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT-TL_GOiN8Compare it to small target i am talking abouthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXmoSA2La0Y
ZUCK>ZUCKZUCK>ZUCKZUCK>ZUCKZUCK>ZUCKZUCK>ZUCKZUCK>ZUCKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cpnK9AfIhg
>>721277514>we'd spent 40 minutes chatting in the briefing roomI'm fucking finnish can you even conceive how horrible that sounds?
>"Smartglasses">never giving credit to meta>thinking the rest of the industry is anywhere near their level of polish when it comes to smartglasses
>>721278228>never giving credit to metaUnfathomably based
>>721223602>effort post>in 2025 /v/Am I dreaming?
>>721278228Two minutes of battery life and doesn't do anything your smartphone can't already do. Amazing innovation Zucky. Get that five-sense zogverse going and you'll have my attention.
>>721278414>2 minute mspaint slop>effort postwith that logic this post is effort post too cuz it took me 20 seconds to write this shit
>>721272743>The only VN he likes is Ace AttorneyShit normalfag opinion. SG is better and it's not even close.
>>721215484correct and well said
>>721271515the actual correct and well said post
>>721278605Go back newnigger
>>721266582holy shit I kind of want this
>>721278471>They last up to six hours of mixed use and charge in a collapsable case for up to 30 hours of battery life.https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/17/meta-ray-ban-smart-glasses
>>721213431Personally, it's the hassle of the setup.I have a VR headset and I like VR games but setting the thing up every time is fucking annoying.>just keep it plugged in forever!Fuck off. Too bulky, too many wires.
GabeNigger should stop being a jew and start selling VR googles at a huge loss like every single real console manufacturer have done in past instead of wasting money on his epstein yachts not like he can get it up
>>721277853>No 6.35mm port or external audio option at all when the original Oculus CV1 used to let you swap the standard audio.
>>721279128just reminded me I left my vive plugged init was so hot, not even being turned on
>>721279128With wireless you really just need to turn it on and you're done. I do agree that the setup of the wired units is a bit of a hassle.>>721279129Not even console manufacturers are selling at a real loss anymore, since the hardware and subscriptions cover the cost.
>>721279128I'm glad I got a Vive Pro second hand. Literally just have to plug a single cable to a splitter when I want to play games
Would you subscribe to a service to get monthly quick game every month?
>>721278608What is SG, most people havent played your anime picture books fag
>>721274360aim community in shambles
>>721277554>no physical feedbackcause mice have physical feedback right?cause there's no gunstocks with haptics on them right?
>>721263878Just being CRT scumheres the original.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mpB8ia5CUXo?app=desktop
>>721213431>See thread in catalog>"Haha, that image looks like an ope. I wonder if anyone else sees it">Enter thread>"AYO, LIP SMACK NIGGER NIGGER WE WUZ"Cornballs.
I think the ready or not vr mod just got manual aiming
>>721282350Ah its unreleased so far
>>721275076>saucy is germannot surprising
>>721247193It feels great to watch 3D movies in a black void and I only have a Quest 2. It's a shame that 3D movies are so dead it's just this one guy doing 3D conversions.
>>721215738For me, it's Arizona Sunshine and whatever the control point gamemode is called in H3. Loved doing custom loadouts based on my favorite kino and video gamesRobocop>M9 Cleric>ScrewdriverAstartes>Chainsaw>KWG1 w/ slugs &/or explosive shells>No96 Impact GrenadeRainbow Six/Clear & Present Danger: Ding Chavez>Remington 700>MP5 >flashbang grenadesSplinter Cell/Sam Fisher>combat knife>FN 5.7 suppressed w/ laser sight>Steyr AUG(since there's no F2000) suppressed w/ laser sight & grenade launcher>grappling hook
>>721276832Yeah I agree. When we play pavlov if you flank someone from behind they're dead 27/7. There's no way to turn irl fast enough and the smooth turn is too slow as well on top of the bad netcode
>>721213431looks like that ugly bitch from ghost of yotei lmao
>>721283808top kek
I sold mine for 380euros + 1x16gb of ram Corsair Vengeance LPX(I was trying to sell that shit since Jan)
>>721213431Shit gamesHeadache inducingToo expensive
>>721247193i watched the new avatar trailer on quest 3 (i believe the HFR is quest exclusive for some dumb reason). james cameron is such an unbelievable retard, he's still doing that shit where only some parts are high frame rate, so it will randomly drop to 24 fps and look like absolute dog shit. in the previous avatar even in the same scene it will change frame rates. what the fuck is he doing? i think 3D/vr content should all be high frame rate, but at least stick to one or the other because the change is so jarring.
>>721223602Impressive. Very nice
>>721282517You can do them yourself now. Owl3d os the easy way, nunif is the free way
>>721285910Movie people HATE anything over 24fps. Also has something to do with the broadcasting standard. Its a hill boomers will die on.
>>721286031How good is it compared to a good manual 3D conversion?
>>721285910Cinephiles are just a notch below audiophiles in their retardation. I was personally convinced when people didn't like the HFR Hobbit films not because of the dogshit writing but due to the high framerate that "made it look wrong". Yeah god forbid I panning shots aren't unrecognizable much anymore.
>>721286210If you do the inpaiting ones (probably using depthcrafter or stereocrafter) probably better. Those take forever to convert tho (at the level I seen tested that the clip literally had me giggling maniacally due to how impressed I was) and that was almost a year ago.
>>721275076uh ohstinky
>>721276050Yeah.That's literally me.
>>721270019batman arkham shadow
>>721286210The faster ones (models) are good enough. They definitely look better than the flat one just for the colors alone. Inpainting removes the weird warp effects you get already the items that are being brought out and allow you to push the 3d even more without the defects. Only about a year ago or 2 ago they cracked doing it without horrible artifacting (and eye strain) advancements are moving pretty fast
>>721262786holy fuck he literally me...
>>721275538>"just watch anime bro nothing bad will happen">ends up hanging out with a group of men dressed as anime girls having gay sex on a tranny game
>>721286174The whole movie is in 48fps he just duplicates the frames in some scenes so it appears as 24fps because he thinks the soap opera effect is only when people are talking for some reasonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoNpFAUo0jo#t=7m54s
>>721287686he's not wrongaudiences hate it when low intensity scenes are high framerate
>>721286981gb2/reddit/
>>721213515WERENT
>>721223602
>>721213515ANYTHING
>>721219726Check out Demeo.
>>721244696>YO MY UNCLE CAN'T BREATHE
>>721213431Too expensive for a small collection of decent games at best. Not to mention the sheer motion sickness most people get using them after a short period of time. Ill grab one when they are eventually found in bargain bins to play some beatsaber
Shiieett mup da fo betta boppa powerball
>>721213729porn addiction isn't a slippery slo-
>>721256474got over 2000 hrs of fun out of vrc because i can yap for hours and watching anime and movies in vr for free is the most kino experience outside of a theatre. and anthropomorphic animals are sexo
>>721291394>vrc>furry>defends vrThe stereotypical VR user.
>>721290680the switch 2 has 2 games and costs $450 and $80 per game. you can get a quest 3s for under $300 and every game is free.
>>721263857Dungeons of Eternity if you like dungeon crawlers.
>>721288373MEET N' HUH?
>>721291493
>>721263857>most games are indieslop nobody has ever heard about>two of them are games from the 1990s but with an official VR modgrim
>>721291901I care. I judge your character before I judge your opinion as that gives me context. In a world where I can only be sure of my own existence it's the only metric that matters.
>>721274735>At the very least we would have had good Linux headsets from the startAnd that would've helped.... how?
>>721292030hey nigga this u?
>>721223602I appreciate you and implore you to keep doing shit like this but this is captain vidya-tier and I just can't see it.
>>721292030>In a world where I can only be sure of my own existenceYou can't be sure of that.
>>721292224fatter, balder, hairier and no hat then yeah sure
>>721260046it's a shame more devs aren't sticking to vehicles only for non-racing games. think driving sim sections, rails shooter (as a stationary gunner in a vehicle) sections, spaceship or plane sections, mecha games where you move like in gorilla tag. just give me good single player experiences I can play sitting in a chair or standing in one spot that don't feel like tech demos.
>>721275871>clear gap between them in the screenshot thumbnail>but not from the camera pov
>>721213431i dont want shit on my face while gaming
>>721275871That's two grown men.
>>721277421You can just play AceCombat or any other cockpit games in VR.Modding flight sims to run in 6DoF was a thing even before those VR headsets exist.Where do you think all the "head tracking" tech even came from?
>>721294852IL-2 1946 VR support is lackluster and frankly no other combat flight simulator matters.
is warthunder good in vr?or is the simulator mode still too arcadey?
>>721225220stay
>>721295120War Thunder isn't good in any mode. Much less VR.
>>721295120I played it with headtracking and throttle and joystick not VR and it was fun because it has actual matchmaking and opponentsit didn't have buttons to click in the cockpit or anything but still fun to fly against real people
new gunman contracts devloghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYLqLfTHo-8
AYO
>>721295120aces of thunder soon
>>721273371>go outside with your ar contact lenses >coca cola logos on literally every fucking surface to the point that you can't actually see anything>"please pay today's ad restriction fee - $70 in a high-traffic zone, with a $5 discount for our AR Premium members">your lenses are overheating, you can literally feel your eyes being cooked>swear aloud at the inconvenience >mfw immediately reported to the police for antisocial behaviour>mfw your contact lenses shut themselves off and completely blank out your vision for a tos violation>mfw money stolenno thanks
>>721223602Okay, that’s good.
>>721299585>refuse to buy facebook spyglasses>everyone else wears them and records you>spotted not saying "black lives matter" at the appropriate time>mfw put in solitary confinement with facebook spyglasses on as punishment
>>721213431They need a flagship game. Something that everyone has and buys the system for.No, VRChat and Beat Saber don't count because one's just secondlife and one is just a bog standard rhythm game with wagglan. Nobody really made that game that really showed what you could potentially do in VR.
>>721261384you just need a wifi 6 router (any will do) that's directly connected to your pc, you can just daisy chain the new router to the old one and you're golden, if you have a 40 series or rx6000 gpu use the avi1 encoder this completely eliminated any stutter or perceivable latency for me.
>>721213431>High price of entry>Small library of games>Features are rarely standardized
>>721301615You gotta admit though, beat saber is practically the "tetris" of vr. If you have a headset, theres nearly a 100% chance you own beat saber.
>>721302652i dont own beatsaber i "borrowed" it from a "friend"
>>721263878Dont tell him about Penn Station.
>>721228201Nigga this is nuts
>>721223602Gentlemen, we beat racism.
>>721262786I do this but when I see cleavage.
>>721291641THEY DID HWHAT IN DA KINGDOM???
>>721213431once you see jay z... its over...