It's pretty obvious the switch 2 has been a success but like with every sequal console it won't sell as much as the original Furukawa has said in an investors meeting the switch 2 price has priced out the younger market with their average audience aging
>>721239986They will probably go left feild like they did with the wii, ds and switch
The switch 2 just came out
new mascot female blue hair
>>721239986>Furukawa has said in an investors meeting the switch 2 price has priced out the younger market with their average audience agingKek it's actually real!
>>721240859The industry as a whole has priced out the younger market honestly. There's a good reason why kids only play Fortnite and Roblox nowadays.
>>721240859"Furukawa suggested that children can engage with Nintendo characters through other means, such as theme parks, movies, and the Nintendo Museum, if they cannot afford the console itself."The absolute state of Jewtendo.
>>721241052>go watch movies instead Huh...
>>721239986Up
>>721241052Nintendo's greed will get to them in the long termThe nindroids who buy everything will age eventually
>>721239986> priced out the younger market Does he think 8 year olds were buying consoles before? Or does he just realize the Mexican kids’ parents can’t afford it but he’s being politically correct?
>>721242118When it comes to Nintendo handhelds yes
The success of the Switch caused Japan's mobile market to stagnate. Remember, back in 2016, investors were telling Nintendo to start making mobile games. The Switch was so successful, they told them to fuck off. Developers were able to make real games, on a real console, that was viable in Japan.This consequently led to massive stagnation in the Japanese mobile game market, leading to the rise of Chinese and Korean games, that now dot billboards in places like Akiba. If Nintendo cannot maintain strength with the Switch 2, this could spell some degree of trouble for the Japanese market as a whole.
Remember the Vita TV?I think we get a console box Switch 2 this gen. No screen and no battery. For like $300
>>721239986is this your next cope?
>>721239986>It's pretty obvious the switch 2 has been a success but like with every sequal console it won't sell as much as the originalThe Switch is the best-selling system of all time, selling less than that won't matter as long as the Switch 2 still does solid numbers.
>>721242659Then it's not a Switch anymore because the console can't "switch"
>>721242659lite SKU makes senses but not sure if the perma console mode will sell without hindering the main one.
>>721243078Just like the Switch Lite.
>>721242304>massive stagnation in the Japanese mobile game market, leading to the rise of Chinese and Korean gamesThe gaijin platform and gaijin audience go hand-in-hand. Would have happened either way. Japan would be better off not producing any software at all than reducing theirs to gachaslop.
>>721241052I don't see this strategy working out for them longterm. A kid who watches the mario movie probably isn't going to grow up to want their games if they and their peers were raised on games like roblox and fortnite. Nintendo doesn't have virtual social sims like that. I know they are trying to make their own minecraft/roblox with that secret playtest game but as someone who tried that its very unintuitive and confusing for casuals.
>>721244427switch2 lite will save the day.
>>721239986will there be a next console ? will they make steam games next? sad to think about it
>>721239986>it won't sell as much as the originallel. It's gonna get RDR2, GTA 6, RE9, 007.When you look at Switch 1 library, everyone recommends indies or Nintendo games. Switch 2 will get basically everything. To think that shit like GTA 6 won't boost sales is rubbish. It'll also cause tons of xbots and playstation players to completely switch sides
>>721244482They should get onto making that yeah. My brother has bought a few Switch Lites for each of his kids. That's something parents can't do with the current Switch 2, especially if it gets a price increase like PlayStation and Xbox have recently
>>721244720Rockstar is not going through the trouble of downgrading GTA 6 for Switch 2
>>721244825they did for xbox S, just need a bit more optimization.
>>721244482It will certainly help but the game prices are still too highThe software sales will be where nintendo take the biggest hit not the consoles
>>721244825Nigga why you think they're porting RDR2 in the first place? Because it speeds up the GTA 6 port. If it didn't get delayed Switch 2 could get the port in 2026, now I'm not sure because they're not even finished with the game yet.
>>721244720Another 4k sales on the switch 2!
>>721245123GTA 6 will make Switch 2 sell tens of millions and cause people to double dip and it'll seriously hurt Playstation because why the hell would anyone buy PS6 when you can get everything on Nintendo.
>>721244864if we're talking about kids nowadays where vbux and robux are normal things for them. I'm not sure. We'll see. But what I can say is that Nintendo usually realized the stalling momentum or sell-through in around 6-9 months. So I expect to see them readjust after that.
>>721239986>but like with every sequal console it won't sell as much as the originallol
>>721245176Actually come to think of it, the delay might actually benefit Nintendo a lot. Rockstar has to reveal stuff in investor's meetings and so on so we might find out about the upcoming NS2 port
>>721245176We know, you've been dreaming about people dropping their consoles to buy shit ports on the Scamtendo 2 for months. Shame about it already being outsold in multiple countries and the shareholders saying that 3rd party games flopped.
>>721245554Okay spammer.When consumers choose what console to buy and Switch 2 got the greatest exclusives and third party games then consumers are gonna choose Switch 2. This is simply economic reality
>>721245236playstation target audience isn't family and kids and the gaming industry has changed so much since the year 2000
>>721245647>no GOTY or exclusives >B-But coomsumers...Pretend you won personified.
>>721245746BOTW/SMO etc did win GOTY
>>721245726Okay. And you think that means it didn't sell more than the original PS1...why?
>>721246017it sold well because it was reasonably prices and sony's brand as a video game company was established during the ps1
>>721246095So it sold more than the PS1.
>>721239986They said they could make up the increasing cost of development by making much more smaller scale games as well. So expect more games, but lower priced then 70,-. Their older user base spends way more money on software, where most of their money is made.Attach rate means a whole lot more then consoles sold.Buuut, sega consoles always had an insanely high attach rate and see where they are now. So maybe I'm just a random internet dude who thinks he knows anything
>>721246276mario tennis is 70usd
>>721246337>mario tennis is 70usdWHAAAAT THE FUCK???WHO THE FUCJK IS BUYING THIS SHIT, ITS FUCKING BASEDBOYS I BET YOU, AND DESPOITE THE FUCKING PRICE TAG I GUARENTEE YOU THAT IT WON'T BEAT NEW PLAY CONTROLS MARIO TENNIS FOR THE WIIFUCK BASEDBOYS
>>721246535Boy I got news for you about other sports games where people spend thousands of dollars yearly to play the exact same game
>>721240245No left fields left except for VR/AR and that doesn't sell. Unless they do holograms or something, somehow
>>721241052Every console is too expensive. And their prices are only going up.
>>721239986>Furukawa has said in an investors meeting the switch 2 price has priced out the younger market with their average audience agingwait you mean kids can't afford a $500 console and $80 games?this christmas is going to be interesting
>>721239986>but like with every sequal console it won't sell as much as the originalPs2 has entered the chatFucking zoomie
>>721246805glorified DVD player in a time when no one had a DVD
>>721239986Brace yourself for this...Switch. 3.
>>721241052playstation and xbox keep increasing in price every other month, I think they are way more out of touch
>sequalAlso ps2? xbox 360?
>>721246769it's just anti-nintendo cope. Kids don't buy shit, it's their parents buying it for them, and they can afford it
>>721247114the switch 3 would flop
>>721246952Yes. That's why it sold more than the PS1.
>>721241052I was at the Nintendo theme park last week and let me tell you it was absolutely filled to the brim with children. They were going crazy for the Nintendo stuff, the how to train your dragon area was fucking empty. And the kids knew the names of all the Mario characters, even the random mooks like spike>inb4 those are the rich kidsNo. Orlando parks are almost all Brazilians and other Hispanics
>>721242304No, what happened is that Genshin Impact started the AAAifiation of mobile games. As someone that was heavily into mobage for years starting with Puzzle & Dragons and Brave Frontier in the early 2010's, the mobile market used to be cheap clones and cash grabs using different popular IPs so you'd have a bunch of generic card battlers with IPs ranging from more obscure like Majikoi to very popular like Yakuza(this is where Ichiban is originally from).What happened is that after Genshin, the production values needed to release a mobile game greatly increased, before releasing SNES tier 2D games was fine, games like Uchihime and Dragon Poker were popular enough but now you need a high quality product, the gold rush is over. A bunch of pro consumer laws were enacted as well so the games couldn't be as maliciously greedy as they once were when compugacha was a thing, rates didn't have to be disclosed, and no pity systems existed. So you have to spend more money to make less money in the current market. You can still make shitty low quality cash grab Switch games and have them sell, look at Uma Musume mobile vs the Uma Musume Switch game for a good example of that, the mobile game is infinitely higher quality. It's paradoxical but mobile games now have to be higher quality than console games.
>>721247170*and Nintendo Don't leave out your favorite corporation.
>>721247232>it's just anti-nintendo cope. Kids don't buy shit, it's their parents buying it for them, and they can afford itthat's just it, its too expensive for a christmas gift.nintendo priced families out for the first time.
>>721239986nintendo need the child audience to brainwash them into becoming virgin man children who shill for them
>>721247408>the switch will flop>switch 2 will flop >the switch 3 would flop Delusional snoy
>>721247232I grew up in a well off family, but I had 2 siblings so there was no chance my parents would ever spend $500 on a Christmas present for me. $200 was the limit which meant I got the SNES Super set, Dreamcast, and Gamecube but the PS2 was something I had to save up and buy for myself. I had to make extensive use of trading in games to get new ones, meaning I let Babbages fuck me in the ass.What my parents did love to buy me were handhelds since those were cheap. That was how I grew to love Nintendo as a kid, via the Gameboy/GBC/GBA. That avenue has been shut down for modern kids, they have phones and tablets instead. Parents don't need to buy them cheap $30 Gameboy games before a trip to shut them up.
>>721248194>that avenue has been shut down for modern kids, they have phones and tablets instead. Parents don't need to buy them cheap $30 Gameboy games before a trip to shut them up.Okay switch has sold 153 million so clearly the mobile shit didn't matter. If anything people bought a Switch to get away from all the gacha scams, I know people who bought a Switch 1 for that reason
>>721248436I have never even seen a Switch outside of a store, ever. People don't play this stuff, you guys know that right?Its nobodys like main console.Its a meme.
>>721248194$500 today is roughly the same as $200 was in the year 2000.
>>721248528Obviously people don't use it like a DS, you can't just put it down in your pocket
>>721248436The Switch Lite retailed for $200 and the actual console was $300. The switch 2 is $450. I would have been able to get a Switch Lite for Christmas(and even a Switch 1 if you take into account inflation) but the Switch 2 would have been something I'd need to buy myself. And if I was a little retard kid today I'd probably use that money on Vbucks or Robux or whatever the fuck those paid currencies are called. Even as a teen I got WoW gold for Christmas once to get an epic mount.>>721248573It's $375 today.
>>721240946Must suck being a kid nowadays. Gaming PCs and consoles are ridiculously expensive, and no normal parent will bother affording their kids these luxuries. Even simple toys like legos have ridiculous price tags that are catered more toward adults. Kids are left with table scraps and free2play slop on their parents' hand-me-down phones
>>721248528>I have never even seen a Switch outside of a storeI have people at work who bring switches in. I don't expect to see people whip one out at the park or on some random bench in town but taking the train I've seen plenty.
>>721247981thats what they have their disneyland for
>>721248638Switch 1 would be $400 today so nothing has changed. Switch 2 will get a Lite version so they got a cheaper option in the future. That's why I think Sony can't win overall, a cheap console that can also play all the third party shit? Unbeatablehttps://www.inflationstation.net/
>>721241052>can't afford the console or games>can afford to go to the theme park or buy a plane ticket to japan to visit the museumhuh?
>>721248573You have to be 18+ to post here
Bankruptcy. Shite tablet for toddlers without games.
>>721249009>that can also play all the third party shit?Except those don't sell due to the keycard bs
>>721239986I'm saving up for a PC, kek.
>>721244864Yeah, I'd be surprised if any game in any given franchise makes switch 1 numbers
Nintendo has not only put all their eggs in one basket by merging their console and handheld divisions, but they are continiously disappointing their againg loyal fanbase while not bringing any new fans in. Hypothetically speaking, if Switch 2 did flop it would be a disaster for them. They don't have mobile to fall back on since those games are shut down or on their deathbed
>>721249013The hidden in plain sight message here is that Nintendo games are dogshit and going to a theme park or watching a movie is the same experience.
Nintendo should make an iPad with a roblox like game in the mushroom kingdom
>>721249069Lots of third parties are charting though.Sony's handheld will be digital only and Nintendo still got cartridges so you end up saving a lot of space with that. Either way you only need to get a microsd express card, even if GTA 6 is like 400GB it doesn't really matter, 512GB cards don't cost that much
>>721249296They will suffer next gen if they don't lower prices
>>721248638wrong.
the next console generations are heavily AI oriented
>>721239986>but like with every sequal console it won't sell as much as the original >PS2 is the highest selling console of all timeThis board is fucking retarded.
>>721248194Nintendo consoles are bought for the whole family, not just one child
>>721249009>a cheap console that can also play all the third party shit? UnbeatableThe key problem is that kids want to be streamers and kids want to play with each other. Nintendo's locked down ecosystem will be the biggest detriment to adoption when every other platform can play and chat with each other. Kids will want a PC to stream but even the kids that don't will still want to play with their friends so they'll want something that shares servers and voice chatting apps. The variable is as console prices in general get more expensive, parents might just want their Snoystation or Xbox to play GTA on and then the kids can use it to play games too, so you get kids stuck on the Xbox or Playstation ecosystem because their parents are in it.
>>721249594>Nintendo's locked down ecosystemWhat does that mean?I can play a bunch of third party Nintendo games cross platform. Fortnite and Minecraft to name the big 2 for kids.
>>721249594All the PC crap is just bad for Playstation because they don't have exclusives anymore. NS1 proves everyone wants Nintendo exclusives. What Nintendo lacked since N64 was third party support and now finally they got it back.>The variable is as console prices in general get more expensive, parents might just want their Snoystation or Xbox to play GTA onXbox is dead next-gen. Switch 2 Lite will be way cheaper than PS6 or their digital only handheld so Nintendo wins on price too
>>721249657A lot of the popular games aren't on the Switch 1 and the voice chat itself is the part that's truly locked down. You can't use f2p voice chat options on the Switch, you have to use phone Discord and no one likes the guy that isn't using push to talk on his phone and you can hear everything that he's doing. Marvel Rivals was a big game for a bit, any kid using their parents console or PC could play that with their friends, the ones stuck on the Nintendo console were left out. The Switch 2 is most likely going to be a repeat of that just due to the hardware being much weaker and game devs becoming lazier and games being horribly optimized. >>721249865>What Nintendo lacked since N64 was third party support and now finally they got it back.Games currently barely run on the PS5 that's obviously not going to last. PC and mobile will be the winners in the end. Phones were stronger than the Switch 1 for years, that will most likely repeat again with the Switch 2 but phones are $1,000 so of course they'll be stronger.
yeah, idk. Switch 3 is probably DOA.
>>721249984>Games currently barely run on the PS5 that's obviously not going to lastRight, the myth that companies want to lose money and release games on fewer platforms when everything's multiplat nowadays. They released PS4 games forever and that thing came out in 2013
>>721239986>but like with every sequel console it won't sell as much as the original>Playstation 2How does it feel to be wrong?
>>721239986They should begin downsizing back to pocketable DS sized handhelds. If modders can make a retroid flip 2 run switch 1 games moderately well, theres no reason nintendo can't scale their handhelds back down.
>>721250070It they fire furukawa and doug in the short term and make a concentrated effort to turn things around the switch 3 will probably be salvageable, but they're not yet in a position in which shareholders would ask for both of them to be removed, and when it does happen it will probably be too late
>>721250148The Switch 1 was so weak that they couldn't do that however, even with everything being multiplat most games skipped it. Unless devs keep making PS4 games when the PS6 is out then history will repeat itself. We're already seeing concessions made for Switch 2 ports of current gen games where tons of NPCs and enemies have to be removed to have it run, so the worst case scenario is that games are held back to be designed for the Switch 2. The best case is that the ports are simply bad so that gaming in general doesn't suffer. Pic related was being posted to show that the Switch 2 is running Star Wars Outlaws better than the Deck but watch it and look for NPCs, it's a night and day difference. Cyberpunk is the same way.
>>721250070I think it kind of depends on if it's digital only or not, there's pretty much no point in consoles without physical media, especially so if nintendo's first party output continues to dip in quality
>>721250213as someone who uses my 3ds more than my switch this would be the dreamanimal crossing on 3ds was special
ditch the tranny fag pandering, put shit on deep discount as reparations nintendo couldn't look more like a groomer brand, its disgusting
>>721250729>Unless devs keep making PS4 games when the PS6 is out then history will repeat itselfThen you have no idea what you're talking about. NS1 also had to prove itself back when it came out. None of those companies doubts who's number 1 now, It's Nintendo. >Switch 2 is running Star Wars Outlaws better than the DeckUnderstatement of the day, PC handhelds can't even play the game without blurry framegen>but watch it and look for NPCs, it's a night and day differenceIn the past Nintendo didn't get the games and GTA 6 will have to cut some NPCs, that's a big difference.
>>721250729Eh, I'm looking forwards to it, either compeanies will wake the fuck up and make Switch 2 titles or they will continue circling that Playstation/Xbox drain.
>>721251204Other than the "style" selection with the switch 2, what else looks groomer about it? The gay character designs for the newer pokemon and fire emblem games?
Roblox
>>721251228>Then you have no idea what you're talking about. NS1 also had to prove itself back when it came out. None of those companies doubts who's number 1 now, It's Nintendo.The Switch got a lot of 360 ports even early on, with Skyrim being the biggest early one but it got other current gen ports like Witcher 3, Doom, Mortal Kombat, Harry Potter etc. But many devs couldn't be assed to get their games running on it and that's why you had Capcom and Square do cloud releases that flopped. >>721251337The problem will be that PC is still the largest market thanks to China. Look at a Chinese game like Black Myth Wukong which did good numbers solely due to the chinks, if China puts out their own big games with better graphics then those games designed for the Switch 2 will get glossed over in the PC market. Especially if they're $70 or $80, indies are gaining a lot of ground on PC due to their price tags so games like schedule one and peak are huge. Games that look and play like last gen most likely aren't going to sell, especially not at the current prices. The industry is going through a massive upheaval and I don't think the Switch 2 is going to save third parties when the majority of the games sold on the system are first party titles.
>>721241052>you can't afford the 500 dollar console?>how about you spend 1000 dollars to visit our museum in Japan or the theme park instead if you're so poor?if Nintendo was retarded during the Wii U era then they're completely lobomized now
>>721241052>The console's price has priced out the younger audience>Therefore, they can entertain themselves with out products by spending hundreds of dollars in attraction theme parks, plus hotels, plus traveling, plus food and drinks.Genuinely, what the fuck is wrong with Nintendo?
>>721251204sony is the one selling fag flag consoles as well as being propped up by the groomer games of choice
>>721239986nintendo need to release a switch lite 2 without joycon drift for 300usd
>>721251675>The Switch got a lot of 360 ports even early on, with Skyrim being the biggest early one but it got other current gen ports like Witcher 3, Doom, Mortal Kombat, Harry Potter etc. But many devs couldn't be assed to get their games running on it and that's why you had Capcom and Square do cloud releases that flopped.Again, NS1 didn't have the anywhere near the same hardware. It wasn't anywhere close to PS4. You're just proving my point that it couldn't play most games. >The industry is going through a massive upheaval and I don't think the Switch 2 is going to save third parties when the majority of the games sold on the system are first party titles.See you're just repeating the same myths all the other retards say. NS1 sold a ton of third party games, it's just that they were the games that it could handle, even some of the late ports sold extremely well.
>>721244951To be fair, getting a 7 year old game to run on the Switch 2 is probably a lot different than a game still in development. Especially one that seems to be going all in on the graphics and technology. And let's not forget all Rockstar games already run like absolute fucking ass, even on the most powerful console in each generation.If they pull it off and it's not a disaster of a port, It would be legitimately impressive.
>>721251987>Again, NS1 didn't have the anywhere near the same hardware. It wasn't anywhere close to PS4. You're just proving my point that it couldn't play most games.The rest of the industry is moving forward too, the hardware is still behind current gen consoles and the next gen is most likely 2 years away. We're both in agreement that the Switch 1 can't play most games, what I'm saying however is that's going to be true for the Switch 2 as well and games struggling to run on the PS5 right now make that very obvious to the point where I'm not sure where anyone would think otherwise.
>>721252204>and let's not forget all Rockstar games already run like absolute fucking assWhy you pretending the RAGE engine is bad? It's one of the best>getting a 7 year old game to run on the Switch 2 is probably a lot different than a game still in development.Without RDR2 on Switch 2 a GTA 6 port could take 18-24 months, with the RDR2 they can do it in 12 months. >>721252227>The rest of the industry is moving forward tooThey only started dropping support for PS4 now when it's 13 years old, Switch 2 will be supported even longer.
>>721252227Games struggling to run on consoles means they're being too demanding of hardware that is set in stone.PC's are weird Frankenstein machines where any number of setups could appear but consoles it's always going to be the same. It's a basic understanding that some hardware is stronger than others but growing consensus is a game actually running well instead of looking prettier. Shortcuts like frame generation has lost any favour over actually optimising games.
I think the issue that not just Nintendo but every other console are facing is that the game industry is in a decline and more devs/companies have been faced with the reality that if they release their games on just one console, they are just shooting themselves in the foot. Exclusivity has only worked for first party games, and even then we are seeing that Sony and Microsoft are slowly getting rid of it by making them timed exclusives, or porting some of their old titles to PC.While it's cool that Switch 2 is also receiving ports of new games that are coming out, no one with a PS5 or a capable enough PC is going to buy RE9 on the S2 when it runs worse. Nintendo has to step up with their future titles, ideally lower the price but that won't happen, and give more dev kit tools to more devs.
>115 replies in>look up sales prices >”Nintendo Switch 2 is the most sold console in history”
>>721252548If the industry is moving away from the PS4, why do you think something akin to the PS4 pro is going to be supported even longer? The industry is moving away from the PS4 is a bad sign for Switch 2 longevity, not a good one.>>721252620It's gotten really bad, even the highest end PC hardware is struggling to run some new releases natively at 60 fps. When games need frame gen just to run on stronger hardware, it completely kills any hope of the weak hardware running them at all. UE6 might make everything infinitely worse too.
>>721252548>Why you pretending the RAGE engine is bad? It's one of the bestI'm not, I'm saying Rockstar priorities other things like visuals to the point where their games run like absolute fucking ass on consoles.Like if RDR2, GTAV, RDR and GTAIV is anything to go by, it will regularly hover around 25fps on the PS5.If they still get that running on a Switch 2 with the same frame-rate, without massively downgrading the game. It will be genuinely impressive. Especially since even 5 year old games like Cyberpunk already struggle on the Switch 2.
>>721241052quote is misleading, read the investor Q&A
>>721252819>no one with a PS5 or a capable enough PC is going to buy RE9 on the S2 when it runs worse. Nintendo has to step up with their future titlesWhile everyone has said that mobile phones will kill Nintendo for like the past 15 years now. The fact that they are starting to port over AAA games like RE4 to smartphones could make that even more true. Granted I can't image phone sales will be as impressive.
>>721240245They’re gonna do a tablet that doubles as a handheld, too many ipad kids not to try it
>>721247425The problem is its not like Disney World where Disney is the attraction. Its in Universal which also has Harry Potter world among other stuff (used to have Marvel but not sure if thats changed). Point is its another brand in the Brand Theme park. You aren't going to getting kids in the same way.Come to think of it, Nintendo has always had a problem keeping kids. They really don't have anything you can "grow up" into. At least Disney has Marvel and sells to Women who are peak consumers
>>721239986>It's pretty obvious the switch 2 has been a successIt's been out for a few months, that doesn't mean shit. Sales are going to crash soon enough, it won't get past 40-50 millions.
>>721253621The biggest problem for games on mobile is that they're against f2p games and it's hard to beat free. Randy Pitchford's comment about "premium" games was retarded but a game does need to be high quality to get people to spend $70 when they could play some other game for free instead. This is what is "killing" the video game industry right now. On Xbox, PC and Playstation people are playing f2p games instead. On console it's even more pronounced because you can play the f2p multiplayer games without needing a Xbox Live or PSN sub.
>>721252819>no one with a PS5 or a capable enough PC is going to buy RE9 on the S2 when it runs worseRE9 will absolutely sell a lot on Switch 2, Switch has sold 35-36 million in Japan, Nintendo has a massive advantage over Playstation for any game the Japanese likes to play>>721253112>If the industry is moving away from the PS4, why do you think something akin to the PS4 pro is going to be supported even longer?Because Nintendo is bigger than Playstation now and PS4 is also losing support for the HDD, Switch 2 doesn't have those type of downsides.>The industry is moving away from the PS4 is a bad sign for Switch 2 longevityIt's actually a good thing because PS4 owners are more likely to choose Switch 2 over PS5, they've seen Playstation lose exclusives. I've already seen people who say shit like "Oh RE is on Nintendo now? Don't have to buy a PS5 anymore." It's true Switch 2 will receive a billion PS4/Xbox games and all but that has nothing to do with getting new games>>721253179>If they still get that running on a Switch 2 with the same frame-rate, without massively downgrading the game. It will be genuinely impressiveWhy? Nowadays companies don't have to cut content due to size, they got good memory and a decent CPU and DLSS. I'm expecting NPC/traffic cuts but visually I expect the game to look very similar. I think a lot of people commenting on these things don't understand RTX and open world has already been done with Outlaws.Switch 2 has certain advantages over Series S too.> Especially since even 5 year old games like Cyberpunk already struggle on the Switch 2.Base game runs fine, Phantom Liberty came out 2 years ago and they left that engine behind for UE5. RAGE is way superior and it's well optimized for open world games
There's no reason to release a new console. There aren't that many game studios that can take advantage of the PS5 Pro's hardware, Microsoft won't release a new Xbox and GPU companies don't care about the gaming market as much now.
>>721254127>Switch has sold 35-36 million in JapanAnd how many have Switch 2 units have been sold so far in Japan?>Nintendo has a massive advantage over Playstation for any game the Japanese likes to playIsn't Sony Japan's territory?I'm not saying it won't sell on the S2, I'm saying it won't sell that good especially if the same customers have the means to play it on better hardware, and that will probably be the case for most AAA third party games.
>>721253761this would unironically be greatplaying animal crossing on an ipad works so well
>>721254127>It's actually a good thing because PS4 owners are more likely to choose Switch 2 over PS5Why would they ditch their current library to go to a place where they have to buy games they already own for full price again? Sunk cost will ultimately be what keeps Playstation going, it's what's keeping Xbox going right now.
>>721252819>no one with a PS5 or a capable enough PC is going to buy RE9 on the S2 when it runs worseif the port runs decently at 30fps, that's more than enough for the the majority of folks including myselfEven for me who owns an old but still capable gaming PC, I won't mind double-dipping on the Switch 2 ports of the very few PC games I've bothered to buy since 2020 (Elden Ring, Earth Defense Force 6, Lies of P). Besides the hybrid format itself being convenient, I found out there were extra advantages in playing on a console rather than the modern state of PC gaming. >and give more dev kit tools to more devs.People somehow parrot this rumor despite there is already a massive amount of devs that already got their hands on Switch 2 dev kits, including many small publishers and indies.
>>721254127>TX and open world has already been done with Outlaws.Outlaws it's also drastically more ugly compared to the PS5, while running at half the framerate, and from what I can tell that port was considered fantastic.Admittedly the game does look ugly as fuck on the Series S as well. >Base game runs fine,No. You would expect a $450 dollar console released in 2025 to be able to play a 5 year old game in native 1080p 60fps, but it struggles to run it in 540p at 30fps. That's not a good sign.
>>721254931>You would expect a $450 dollar console released in 2025 to be able to play a 5 year old game in native 1080p 60fps, but it struggles to run it in 540p at 30fps.There is no system at the Switch 2's price point that runs cp2077 better than it does.
>>721254005Capped for the holiday season when it passes 50m easily
>>721254665>Isn't Sony Japan's territory?Hasnt been for almost a decade
>>721255286buddy you can go on amazon and buy a switch 2 right now, the demand is gone.
>>721239986Why would I care how much it sells? For me they just have to keep making games I want to play.They will announce a cheaper Switch 2 Lite in 2 years.
>>721239986They painted themselves into a corner. No more consoles and the handhelds are no longer disposable trinkets for kids.
>>721253428Anon. We don't care about the truth. If you want truth then you are a cultist corporate bootlicker
>>721255447You don't know what the word "demand" means, do you?
>>721246535>new play controlsmario tennis gbc blows every other one out of the water
It might actually be over for Mr. Furukama and friends. Right now things seem peachy. A lot of people naturally bought Switch 2 with the expectations thst came from the prior Switch. But the games aren't there, and even Bananza which was met with praise has now been soured by the $20 scam.This combined with the broccoli hairs and e celebs spreading bad word won't end well. They don't have a BOTW or Oddyssey to win everyone over this time
>>721239986>switch 2 has been a success.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnHByfPoAuQ
>>721255641>wejust because you're willing to lie for a corp doesn't mean everyone else is.
>>721249296??? bro?fucking pokemon TCG pocket top the chart every month in japan the chink's gacha chart has to exclude japan revenue from it to make it a comparable to other games.
>>721255849Mogs by Genshin impact.
>>721251692Exactly. When I was a kid in the 90's we rarely went to a theme park. I have never been to a Disney park.
>>721254665>And how many have Switch 2 units have been sold so far in Japan?2 million already, they'll beat PS5 in no time. For third party companies console sales is everything, the more you sell, the more potential customers.>Isn't Sony Japan's territory?https://www.gematsu.com/2025/09/famitsu-sales-9-8-25-9-14-25Not even close, PS5 only recently broke 7 million and that took 5 years, now that Switch 2 is out it's even less likely those people will buy PS6. Famitsu sales show Playstation games are rarely even in the top 10, the top 30 is mostly Nintendo (as in software, not just exclusives)>I'm not saying it won't sell on the S2, I'm saying it won't sell that good especially if the same customers have the means to play it on better hardware, and that will probably be the case for most AAA third party games.Resident Evil probably doesn't benefit a ton from being on a hybrid console as much as replayable games like 007 but still, people are underestimating how much third party games can sell on Nintendo. But the fact it's there day 1 means it will sell more than it would have if it was a late port.>>721254685>Why would they ditch their current library to go to a place where they have to buy games they already own for full price again? Sunk cost will ultimately be what keeps Playstation going, it's what's keeping Xbox going right now.Most don't have huge libraries and if they do they can just keep their PS5 to play their old games. >>721254931>Outlaws it's also drastically more ugly compared to the PS5Not true. The 30 FPS is true but so what? That's why it hurts Playstation. People will buy third party games on Nintendo.>That's not a good signYou completely ignored the fact they left that engine behind and RAGE is way superior but that doesn't mean my points went away.
>>721255958that what i was saying, the chart you always see will have every other games as combined, but only the TCG pocket has global revenue only.
>>721255958Genshin impact and other free to play games like it are all the poor kids have. There is always going to be a cheap hand me down phone or tablet they can play on.
>>721255286Sure, let's meet here to discuss how stupid you were for actually thinking that
>>721255794>and even Bananza which was met with praise has now been soured by the $20 scam.Also, apparently the sales don't match the praise, considering it got a demo two months AFTER it came out. That's never ever a good sign. Nintendo was betting on Bananza being BIG (hence why they put the 3D Mario team on it) and it might have just blown up in their faces.
>>721256361>considering it got a demo two months AFTER it came out.Why do you keep pretending this actually means something
>>721256475Why do you keep pretending it doesn't?
>>721256361>considering it got a demo two months AFTER it came out.Are you retarded? There's never anything wrong with a game getting a demo.
>>721256106>People will buy third party games on Nintendo.nta but as long as you need to pay to voice chat, they really won't for anything with multiplayer.
>>721240859Gaming is generational. If you’re not millennial or zoomer, you will not play video games besides Roblox and Fortnite. Nintendo knows that the end is near for this medium of entertainment.
>>721256539Except when it's post-launch. That's frequently industry code for "shit this didn't sell as much as we needed it to".
>>721256592I don't see how that would matter at all, PS+ is vastly more expensive and they lack good multiplayer exclusives so Nintendo wins there too.
>>721256592>but as long as you need to pay to voice chat, they really won't for anything with multiplayer.Voice chat is part of the online services which are behind the NSO subscription. Why is the voice chat alone singled out as a problem?
>>721256773because you can use discord?
>>721256694>>721256773because voice chat is free and crossplatform everywhere else. you can also just sit in a single player game and voice chat with friends(you can do this with game chat on switch 2 as well). that functionality is locked behind a paywall on switch 2.
>>721256828And this is somehow going to stop GTA 6 selling like crazy on Switch 2? You'd need the paid online to play those games anyways
>>721256828>that functionality is locked behind a paywall on switch 2.the paywall being the NSO subscription itself, like I said. Again why is this a problem? It's no different from the other consoles
>>721256923no, game chat is a separate subscription from nso. it's just free as a trial right now.
>>721256907>And this is somehow going to stop GTA 6 selling like crazy on Switch 2?No, GTA6 not coming to Switch 2 is going to stop that.
>>721256979>nintendo hater once again proves to have no reading comprehension and rely on misinfoI'm starting to see a pattern hereGameChat is currently free for everyone, including those who don't own a NSO subscription. Past March 2026, GameChat will only be available to people who are subscribed to NSO.
>>721256979No it's not. It comes with the subscription. It's free if you do not have the subscription right now, but that's only until next March.
>>721257090Keep dreaming, loser.
>>721257108>>721257134i take it back then. unless that coincides with a price increase, it's not as big of a deal but it is still the only console with paid voice chat(and the only one that can't crossplatform voice chat).
i seriously believe they would delay it to port the game to switch2..........if series S can get it why not switch2 maybe optimizing for xS would already cleared 80% of the work needed to be done....
>>721255794>even Bananza which was met with praise has now been soured by the $20 scamYeah, I was planning on buying the game but not anymore, not for the time being at the very least, I'm not paying $70 for an incomplete game
>>721257328It won't be day 1, it'll come out months later.
>>721254665Only missing the part where those 36M switch owners on average only buy 2x more (physical only) than a 7M PS5 user base.Now ask about digital and see their reaction.
>>721257470Me too. Like I was just about to buy it but I figured I'd wait for the Direct to see what other games I need to get, and then they announced paid DLC out of nowhere. Makes me wonder if I should get Air Riders and Prime 4 on launch or wait to see if there's DLC.
>>721255794>a lot of people naturally bought Switch 2 with the expectations thst came from the prior Switch. But the games aren't thereThe absence of MKW in the direct was honestly concerning, it doesn't inspire much confidence, when it's supposed to be an evergreen title but they're acting like they're abandoning it already
>>721247795I really think that the summer launch, while an insane boon in the short-term, could prove to be a misstep in the longterm. It doesn't have the same new-toy appeal like a typical holiday-launched console, nor does it have the momentum and built-up library ready like the Switch 1 did by launching nearly a year before its first holiday. The fact that Metroid Prime 4 is still a crossgen release, despite being their flagship holiday season game and Nintendo recently going full arrogant-bastard, is a sign that they're not fully confident in the Switch 2 alone having enough momentum going into the holiday season to carry it either.>>721258795If you intend to play Air Riders online frequently, maybe get that at launch. Otherwise you'll probably be safe waiting.
>>721255794Yeah, the direct failed to provide a reason for people to care about the console for the foreseeable future, not only for the casuals with a lack of big titles but also for the diehards with nothing that really counts as fanservice like a franchise revival or something
>>721258984>nor does it have the momentumIt sold better than any console in history
>>721239986VR, please...
>>721259091fucking read my post
>>721256656>Nintendo knows that the end is near for this medium of entertainment.And who's to blame for that? It certainly isn't the alphas and their parents for choosing fortnite and roblox
>>721258984>misstep
>>721259176I did, it's retarded. It has bigger exclusives and franchises than Sony or Xbox has. Pokemon dwarfs anything they make and you don't think it'll do well during the holidays? lmao
>>721259264Pokemon will do well. On the Switch 1.
>>721241052Pokemon games do fuck all, real money comes from merch and related.They aren't exactly wrong per se but that kind of shit need caution, still people would murder to get stuff like Splatoon or even Xeno animated.
>>721258795Same reason I'm on the fence about Prime 4, Air Riders is 100% getting DLC though, what remains to be seen is if it'll be free or paid
>>721259232>>721259091>literally proving that Nintendofags have no mind for second/third order effects or longterm thinking in generalYou're no better than the snoys who bragged about the PS5's launch day/month sales. Look how that turned out for their stupid asses.
>>721259334And MKW, DKB etc etc etc.
>>721259367>pokemon games do fuck allThey're the 6th and 7th best selling first party games on the console
>>721259482>getting rid of the MKW bundle right before the holidaysGood luck selling it for $80.>DKBSweet, we're already at the "the holidays will save DKB" cope.
>>721258991It's the same crossgen problem that Sony had, right now if you care about Pokemon or Metroid you can play them on your Switch 1. And there's a good reason to wait because there's no OLED model and it gets 2 hours of battery life for more demanding games. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a holiday bundle with MKW and another game later this year(Maybe Prime 4?) because right now Switch 2 units are readily available in stores and online. They started manufacturing way too many consoles to (successfully) thwart scalpers but they're not flying off shelves. Even the invitation system has been removed fro Amazon, you can simply buy a Switch 2 whenever you want after 3 months.
>>721258984>The fact that Metroid Prime 4 is still a crossgen release, despite being their flagship holiday season game and Nintendo recently going full arrogant-bastard, is a sign that they're not fully confident in the Switch 2 alone having enough momentum going into the holiday season to carry it either.Makes me wonder if pokemon gen 10 will be switch 2 exclusive, it will probably move systems regardless of how shit it is, however, I'm 100% certain Z-A will underperform PLA, not only does it look worse, it's also like 40 dollars more for the complete experience, and makes me wonder if it'll damage the pokemon brand
>>721259476It's everyone else that couldn't think long-term. Sony gave up their exclusives for nothing, Xbox thought they could outspend everyone else.Nintendo knew exclusives sell consoles so they never gave that up. PS5 sales haven't even been impressive, after 5 years it's still only 80 million, 2 million behind PS4 despite Xbox dying.
>>721259556They sell like crack but issue is that TPC don't give a shit and want new games for more merch.They would murder it for gacha or anything else, Pokemon go caused ton of damage.
Playstation and Xbox already solved the demographic issue. Just put your games everywhere on as many platforms as you can. Younger generations cant afford to buy new consoles but they can afford to buy the games if it's on a device they already own.
>>721259651It will be. Gamefreak hackers said Gen 10 started as Cross gen but the Switch 1 version was labeled test and had been abandoned for a year at the time of the hack.
>>721259695>PS5 sales haven't even been impressive, after 5 years it's still only 80 million, 2 million behind PS4 despite Xbox dying.my question is how many people are STILL on their ps4 because there's no big reason to upgrade yet?
>>721259780They'll just upgrade to Switch 2. PS5 got literally nothing
>>721259731>They would murder it for gacha?They've had a gacha for apparently 6 years now and are still making more games.
>>721259889It's getting official sim. It's F2P even.
>>721259867kinda doubt it, all their games and achievements are tied to playstation. what you're saying is the equivalent of "epic game store has exclusives, everyone will swap there from steam". which didn't happen despite all the exclusives esg got. people are locked in, they're not gonna swap. phil spencer said this ages ago and it's the crux of why xbox is giving up.
>>721259651Anon, even as someone doomposting the Switch 2, I can tell you that you're out of your fucking mind if you think the Pokemon brand can be damaged at this point. Pokemon fans will not only take the abuse, but they'll do it even harder just to spite you for pointing it out (just like they did for SwSh).
>>721259731>"Pokemon go caused ton of damage"Like bringing in hordes of casuals that will buy any garbage game freak shits out which results in an endless feedback loop of lowering quality
>>721260045>achievementslol>phil spencer said this ages ago and it's the crux of why xbox is giving up.Yeah he said that and Switch became the biggest console on Earth. He's the loser that killed Xbox.Playstation is now in the same position Xbox was, without exclusives you're gonna start missing out on millions of sales and when they all go to Nintendo companies notice.
>>721260008So it gets an official version of Showdown. It still doesn't mean the previous post was correct to say "the games do fuck all".A quick glance shows that owning other games means you have more to use and less to grind in champions.
>>721260301Nigga, everyone inject mons.
>>721260271nah man, you're just too optimistic about something that's not gonna happen. the switch 1 wasn't even in competition with the ps/xbox/pc because they didn't get the same games. that's why you'd have a switch and then one of the other multiplat boxes. the switch 2 is prolly gonna be similar but even in the scenario where that's not the case, people aren't ditching their old libraries. this isn't the old days where the next gen comes out and none of your games are playable so a fresh start is viable. really the big thing is that normalfags adopted digital so they can't sell their old games and move on, they'll feel retarded if they wasted so much money on games they can't keep playing on their new system so they cucked themselves into paying $1000 to stay in the same ecosystem instead.that's why the pc analogy is spot on. no one will leave their steam library when they've got thousands of dollars of digital games they can't sell on it. it's the ultimate vidya sunk cost. it doesn't matter how much better gog is or what exclusives egs has, they're staying on steam. their friends are there, their achievements are there, their games are there.
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>>721250729Thats kind of based and making me want a switch 2 desu. Who gives a fuck about npcs if it's going to cut performance.>but the HUSTLE and BUSTLE of the cityDon't care 1-2 npcs is fine to make it feel lived in. Give me my frames bitch
>>721260760Basedtendo
>>721260971>Thats kind of based and making me want a switch 2 desu. Who gives a fuck about npcs if it's going to cut performance.I wa literally thinking the same thing, I dont really want to play these types of games on a wall tv or at my pc i rather play them for a few hours at night comfy in bed and it'll give me a chance to check out things like this and cyberpunk
>>721239986Nintendo's hardware is going to flounder and it's going to tank everything else they do. Expect them to try to make their own launcher on PC in the coming years, but they're almost certainly going to be so greedy and controlling and addled with DRM, they'll struggle with that too.
>>721258984>The fact that Metroid Prime 4 is still a crossgen release [and not NS2 exclusive]if they made it nextgen only you would have cried for months on /v/ about how nintendo is scamming switch 1 owners who bought the system years ago just for mp4
>>721260742>you're just too optimistic about something that's not gonna happenPeople said this when I said Switch 1 would sell 140+ million or when I said Switch 2 would break records. I was right, they were wrong. They only think about the past.Sony has lost a ton of stuff over the years and they can't compete with the hybrid console or power vs PC and they've lost their exclusives. There's nothing they can do vs Nintendo right now. All of their upcoming temporary exclusives look like ass.>that's why the pc analogy is spot on. no one will leave their steam library when they've got thousands of dollars of digital games they can't sell on itLike I said people can just keep their playstation if they got one of those mega libraries but they still end up useless for future Sony. They'll start investing elsewhere.>it's the ultimate vidya sunk costIt's ironic you say this about Steam now when Playstation games are on PC. That's why Playstation is losing
>>721260760Cheaper doesn't=cheap
>>721262252No, but when you're faced with a brand new console at one price and 2 others that both cost more and are 5 years older, the choice should be obvious for most customers.
>>721261791>Sony has lost a ton of stuff over the years and they can't compete with the hybrid console or power vs PC and they've lost their exclusivesyour key mistake here is thinking the average gamer even cares about exclusives right now. all their favorite ips they grew up with are now multiplat if they aren't by nintendo. every big huge release is multiplat. think about how cucked you have to be to have bought an xbox series s/x after the xbone. 32 million people out of the 58 million xbone owners did that. you underestimate sunk cost. >Like I said people can just keep their playstation if they got one of those mega librariesthe core component you're missing out on is the desire to have all their games in 1 place. we saw this happen with the launcher wars on pc, people don't want to have half their games on switch and then half on playstation, that's how you end up with switch 1 owners that only buy switch 1 exclusives and buy their multiplats elsewhere.>That's why Playstation is losingplaystation is losing because people are still playing live service games like fortnite or ff14 on ps4. it's like how wowfags only upgraded their pcs when wow stopped working. there's absolutely smart gamers ditching ps for pc, but a lot of people with the money to afford a decent pc probably have a ps5 around as an early access box if they care about series like final fantasy and dumb gamers are gonna stick with what they know.
>really wanna play 'kart>need to shell out 550$ +tip (online) to just to play 'kartthis is like one of these things I'm totally gonna regret or the exact opposite. fuck.
>>721239986>switch 2>successLol! Lmao even. The buyers remorse people have for switch 2 is worse than wii U. Its a dead console.
>>721262867switch 2 has sold half thr wii u in 3 months
>>721247170They said every month not once after 8 years blind anon.
>>721262252Well, if the Switch 2 is too expensive for most people then gaming as a whole is fucked cuz that thing is the cheapest piece of hardware that's ever gonna come out these days.
>>721260760Portal is much cheaper than any switch.
>>721263257You're acting like people didn't buy current gen consoles for $200-$400 already, which makes them more hesitant to spend more for a weaker one right now. The Series S was down to $200 for a while.
>>721262252Or good.
>>721262769You're going to regret it. World sucks. Stick with 8 or play the older games for your fix trust me.
>>721263509Well yeah, its a game that came out in 2007.
>>721263257Gaming Is fuckedMost Companies are suffering with lay offs and diminishing returns
>>721262745>your key mistake here is thinking the average gamer even cares about exclusives right now.That's just reality as long as you got great exclusiveshttps://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/switch.html>you underestimate sunk costSony fanboys already bought NS1. With NS2 they can completely skip Playstation, that's just a fact.>the core component you're missing out on is the desire to have all their games in 1 placeNo, I'm aware there's tons that would also do the PC/Nintendo combo but a lot of people do want the convenience of only owning 1 platform. That's Nintendo. >we saw this happen with the launcher wars on pcNot relevant but Steam won because they were first but Nintendo did hybrid consoles first so they won there too. Nobody can compete with that.>playstation is losing because people are still playing live service games like fortnite or ff14 on ps4. it's like how wowfags only upgraded their pcs when wow stopped working. there's absolutely smart gamers ditching ps for pc, but a lot of people with the money to afford a decent pc probably have a ps5 around as an early access box if they care about series like final fantasy and dumb gamers are gonna stick with what they know.Again you're just talking about the past. Games like Fortnite were barely playable on Switch 1.
>>721263530>which makes them more hesitant to spend more for a weaker one right nowYou guys are never gonna learn that people genuinely don't give a fuck about this, are ya?>The Series S was down to $200 for a whileXbox is pretty much dead at this point. Especially with those new prices.
>>721263028what does this even mean, ESL nigger? The ps5 has increased their prices 4 times since it came out
>>721260760Nowhere near cheap enough. I just u a deck, which can do and play far more.
>>721264615>u*bought
>>721264325I actually sent it to the wrong anon but it seems this shitty site didn't delete the message.It was meant for the one that said "*and Nintendo".
>>721263641right now I'm just watching shortcat and some bloke called l1am. they seem to have a ton of fun playing discord MMR lobbies (no intermissions)
>>721239986>It's pretty obvious the switch 2 has been a successIt's been 3 months, literally. You can't possibly conclude that a console has been a success after just 3 months.The ONLY reason it sold well up to now is because it was riding the coattails of Nintendo Switch 1, and logically people concluded that the Switch 2 would just follow the same beats as the first console, however with each passing Direct, it's very clear that Nintendo actually has nothing to incentivize buying a $450 console.Switch 2 Edition ports with 2 hours of new content and drip-fed performance upgrades aren't enough for most people to justify an entire console purchase, so it will inevitably drop in sales in the coming months.The real question is what in the fuck were they busy doing for the past 3 years? Did they really think that Donkey Kong Bananza and a downgrade from Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (MKW) were enough to get people to buy into this scam?
>>721264615The Deck isn't exactly cheaper, you have to pay extra for the dock which is included with all Switches
>>721263257>cuz that thing is the cheapest piece of hardware that's ever gonna come out these days.That's not compelling anymore when it's a difference of just $50 in this economy. The Switch did gangbusters in 2020 and 2021 because it was $200 cheaper than the new competition AND had the game everyone was going apeshit over at the moment (Animal Crossing). Switch 2 has neither a big price advantage or an exclusive killer app yet.
>>721253761idk I think that ship has sailed.
>>721240946considering ps4 still gets games kinda weird sony stopped selling it. coulda just made it their budget console
>>721240946yeah the gaming industry is gonna be in trouble in about 10-15 years from now
>>721265336Killer apps will definitely come. But we'll see how Nintendo see the market internally. It took them 6-9 months to realize wiiU/3DS wasn't going to sell and did the huge price cut.
>>721265215You don't actually need the dock, you can just plug it in and have it display to the TV.
It's weird how people are treating this new console like it's been on the market for years. Making claims about it's success, popularity and even the amount of games it has as if it's been available for years.It's almost like they've never seen new hardware before and don't know how to judge it.
>>721253761Isn't that the Wii U?
>>721239986>switch 2 price has priced out the younger market with their average audience aging>Meanwhile Sony and Microsoft are selling 800$ consolesNintendo more than ever has become the affordable options once again, the competition is literally 20-75% more expensive moron
>>721265215I got my deck for cheaper, and I don't care about or need the dock. The games are also way, way cheaper and I don't have to pay for things like online. The library I already have on this thing is obscene.
>>721266975>listings are straight from Steam/Nintendo for faid comparison of brand new hardware>"yeah well i got mine cheaper"
>>721266816>dishonestly comparing a $450 price floor on Switch 2 to an $800 price ceiling for Xbox/Playstation>also posting an image showing that Xbox has a lower price floor than Switch 2at least don't post images that undermine your own fucking points
>>721267172Yes. Check those numbers.Besides I got mine $110 off.
>>721266816It's still too expensive for the casual market who view Nintendo as budget family system Also expect price increase during the generation
>>721239986Even nintendo-shill sites are coming together to dunk Mario Kart: WILDS lmaooohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=vO3zIhD00so
>>721263656>I-It doesn't count.Well it does and the games look significantly better than anything on the switch 2.
>>721267691DKB is GOTY, MKW is second but there's no way they would give it to Mario Kart no matter what. ACNH didn't even win that year, I think it was tlou 2? Despite the story sucked ass. Critics seem to all agree early on in the year what they're gonna vote for
>>721267464You missed the daily tendies victim complex thread were they pretend that people lie and attack Nintendo for no reason.
>>721267691inb4 "yeah well th-th-they're just grifter snoys anyway">>721268024There's no possible way DKB wins when Silksong and Industryplant 33 came out this year.
>>721268181Who cares what critics think? They're literally all fags and trannies. I was talking about what I think but silksong seems to be falling hard, a lot of people loved the beginning and then it becomes much worse
Nintendo will release a Switch 2 Lite that's $100 cheaper than the regular Switch 2, they'll then release an OLED that's $50 more than the Switch 2. Valve's base model Steam Deck 2 will just be $100 more than the Switch 2. Meanwhile, the PS6 handheld will be $700+ while the home console will be close to $1000 and the next gen Xbox will be over $1000 while its OEMs will be in the $900 and over $1000 costing more than the next gen Xbox from Microsoft. Yeah, Nintendo and PC gaming won so hard.
>>721268013What the fuck are you talking about?
>>721268365>Who cares what critics think?That doesn't work anymore after Nintendofags spent the past near decade spamming BotW and TotK awards/opinion headlines.
>>721268486And here's more of shit that didn't happen at 11. If you care about that shit then you're just mad Nintendo are successful in general so it wouldn't even matter if it won or not.
>>721268660>And here's more of shit that didn't happen at 11.motherfucker you cannot be serious
>>721264776fair enough, my bad
>>721268740I've seen Sony fanboys bringing up Astro Bot more
>>721256907>GTA 6 selling like crazyThe browns are being deported, the gangs are being imprisoned, the left is being wiped out. Xbox is $800, PS5 will be $850 or $900 by the time GTA 6 releases. GTA 6 will be the first $100 game. It's over, This game is doomed and will usher in the fall of the AAA industry. I expect 2K Games/Rockstar to put it on PC and Switch 2 very soon. PlayStation and Xbox can no longer save GTA nor influence gaming.
>>721263509What retard would buy a cloud-based handheld over a native one?
>>721252819Globalisation of the vidya market is finaly showing its symptoms corporate suits chasing the bottom line has stifled an industry that used to be dominated by passion projects and is now full of cookie cutter milquetoast safe as shit slop that people are reluctant to buy.
>>721268660>And here's more of shit that didn't happen at 11.Fuck off dude, you gaslighting bootlicker.
>>721241052this reeks of wanting to go hard on mobile games but refusing to acept it since it could tank the stocks.
>>721267464>Base S which is equal on power to a Switch 2 is only 50$ cheaper>Base Xbox X is literally 200$ more expensiveI know you been brainwashed by YouTube but please tell me you are not this retarded>>721267547All consoles are for casuals moron, only PC is for enthusiast hence we pay 1500$ for our builds, the Wii was 250$ almost 20 years ago, the Switch 2 is only the 5th most expensive console they have release when you take inflation into account, you are a retard that has been flagersbasted by YouTube propaganda.
>>721269339You could shut him up by posting proof. Otherwise it's just claims with no backing.
>>721269339Try playing video games instead of being obsessed with 1 company all day
>>721252819Nintendo knew this was going to happen and stayed out of the arms race, Valve sat on their fat asses waiting for Sony and Microsoft to bring everything back to where it started. Simply put, Nintendo and Valve played the game well. Sony and Microsoft nuked themselves by wanting an all-in-one entertainment hub that then lost its way and became prebuilt PCs.
>>721268863Because you live in a fucking echo chamber.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/VcjyjYLct3bc3LnrMmlV_w/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/ltgfBdbETBxjRhewwG8nIg/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/7eaaos4qxPc0x8hH4zfFDg/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/HUuqe6_cnCo72bRQ8M02GA/https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/JfsGEZoOs-EbNn-23zePKQ/https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/RdiFtWf25zTUTj8GxB4tFg/https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/E93UYBKusTEQNGUULoLxkA/And these are just from a cursory search using phrases nintendorks repeatedly use (prolonged, raping/raped, etc).>>721269393>just because it's cheaper doesn't mean it's cheaper! that doesn't count!
>>721239986>It's pretty obvious the switch 2 has been a success
>>721269634Echo chamber? You're thinking of Sony fanboys. Neogaf, iconera, reddit.There's dozens of anti-Nintendo threads on 4chan daily.
>>721269745Because you faggots keep shitting them up with your retarded fanboy spam.
>>721269745>Echo chamber? You're thinking of Sony fanboys.No, he's thinking of Nin10yearolds, you disingenuous faggot. Eat literal shit.
>>721269718yes, we know you guys struggle to read after a few words
>>721269789Okay so people force you to waste time online instead of playing video games. That sounds terrible. I hope it gets better for you
>>721269950>he says as he also spends time here instead of playing Nintendo's clearly amazing and evergreen gamesinb4 NUH UH I'M TOTALLY PLAYING MARIO KART AND GETTING BLOWN BY SUPERMODEL TWINS I'M JUST ALSO HERE TO LAUGH AT YOU LOSERS
>>721269117There's zero hard numbers for it but according to the mouthpieces for Circana and stuff, it apparently sold ~3 million so far.
>>721270158Which are counted as PS5 sales apparently
>>721270158lol, it sold less than the Steam Deck? Wasn't this sold in retailers?
>>721269453You all know already. You ask this purely just to waste people's time.
>>721267691What an omegaTRVKE
Hologram displays. I'm not kidding.
>>721271619can i see a hologram of daisy's fat ass
>>721271817No. Because Visa and Mastercard will prevent you from looking at her butt without consent.
Nintendo is doing better now than ever statistically
>>721272243AMEXCHADS RISE UP
I'm not sure what Nintendo can do besides keep making new switch consoles which will be more successful
All nintendo shitty tablet enjoyer older than 12 should be sent to re education gaming camps.
>>721270226According to the Nintendo Derangement Syndrome Bible.The more you cry the more you lie kek.
>>721272592Statistically better in what way? More money?
Nintendo is an old man company now. They just re-release games that we grew up with and charge $70 because old men can afford it. Enjoy your remakes, remasters and ports of all the games you grew up and still have, but now upscaled because current TVs can't play 480p content anymore. This is video gaming in 2025.
Why the fuck isn't the switch 2 hacked yet? I got one day one and have no fucking games.
>>721268365>>721268365Bananza isn't even good. It's a boring baby game.
>>721274362Nintendo makes games exclusively for children with ADHD attention spans and their parents. They have nothing but contempt for manchildren and do not make games designed for them.They only do ports all the time now because it's proven to be a quick cash grab. It wasn't common before because it's such a scam they thought people would complain and never buy it just because it's on a new console.
>>721265336Switch was successful well before the PS5 and Xbox Series dropped, and in fact, I'm pretty sure you could get a PS4 bundled with a couple of games for like $250 while the base Switch model was $300.The same thing will happen to the Switch 2. Do you think the PS6 and Nextbox are gonna be $500 again? Lmao
>>721272592Statistically better at violating their consumers. Not by actually selling more hardware or games compared to 15 years ago.
>>721276850>15 years agoLmao. The wii had terrible software sales. Switch 1 is the most success Nintendo has ever had.
>>721277087It didn't and if only it was just the wii. 100 million more units of hardware, half a billion more units of software 15 years ago. Now all nintendo has left is one hardware line that isn't looking too hot at the moment.
>>721265554 sony pulled the plug on ps4 production earlier than they should have
>>721278191They got the biggest console, most active users, their new console broke records in most countries.Keep coping
>>721278513Like Microsoft, Sony is fucked next gen.
>>721278513You can't support a console forever anymore like PS2 days. Sony claims PS2 sold like 50+ million after PS3 released.Sony is gonna have to do it again with PS5 vs PS6, it's impossible to just keep making 2 consoles year after year, especially when they stop selling completely. PS5 is already selling less
>>721278718>most active usersUtterly mogged by pc
They need to make a new gameboy.99 dollars, games cost 10-20 bucks, it's mostly aimed at indie developers, and it's pretty barebones, but receive great 2D nintendo games.
>>721278718Keep missing the point. It'll be fun watching people like you get blindsided by the predictable.
>>721279037That's what phones are for.
>>721279097You guys have said Nintendo is doomed for decades now
>>721279147>touchscreenNo
>>721279147Where are the Nintendo phones games?
>>721279321https://youtu.be/A7qac5AZRlY?si=2Aqv2JWZw1GfhAIj
>>721239986>It's pretty obvious the switch 2 has been a success Does he know?
>>721279221One hardware line left and they're burning every single bridge.
They priced out the jeets
This generation is so boringEven the name is boring,Switch 2....The old Nintendo would never call a console (console name) 2
>>721280406jeets were never priced inthat's sony country
>>721280283>they're burning every single bridgelol. Xbox games, probably Playstation games as well, they got third party support now so what bridges?
>>721280523>they got third party support nowThat nobody is buying. Don't be surprised when everything keeps skipping it again.
>>721280618Cool story brah
>>721280458so trueI hope this generation is shorter than the switch was
>>721278834Not him, we know Sony is going to raise the prices of the PS5 again, they're also putting their games on everything and see multiplatform as the future. They've divested in PlayStation hardware, the PS6, in general, is going to be expensive. Both the PS6 home console and the handheld will cost more than the Switch 2. Sony looking to bring in PC mods just solidifies that both Nintendo and PC won in the end.
>>721239986Just enough switch 2 exclusives to justify its existence (like 3 a year max). Mostly going to fall back on the switch 1 install base with releases like tomadachi and rhythm heaven being switch 1 releases. I really dont see them caving on their absurd pricing unless the global economy gets so bad that people cant even afford 60 dollar releases (possible). With switch 1 hardware getting a price increase we're kind of in a wild west here. If were going by historical precedent, we'll likely see sales drop by the start of year 2, everyone who wanted to get one regardless of price will have already done so and any future buyers will need to be convinced that 450 +70-80 dollar games is worth it. Wiiu and 3ds saw their sales sharply dip after a few months because of this.>>721242118I'm assuming this includes the parents who are actually buying their games. Kids are expensive too and not every family has 80 bucks to just throw around every other month.
>>721278191Looks like everyone else is down to just one hardware line and theirs is doing worse so your concern is misplaced
>>721280283If third parties drop them, they'll only be hurting themselves. They only have 2 places to go, Switch and Steam, ignoring either is a death sentence for them. They can no longer ignore Nintendo and PC gaming. Xbox is dead, PlayStation is dying.
>>721247232>it's their parents buying it for them, and they can afford itlol no. Kids are expensive as hell. Maybe your parents were well off but thats far from the reality of the average family.
>>721239986(speaking on specifically the american economy i dont know shit about overseas) It is very strange how every time we talk about videogame pricing, defenders will go to great lengths to avoid acknowledging cost of living/inflation/wages as a major factor in all of this. If groceries are expensive for you are you dumping 500 dollars on what is essentially a toy, especially when theres other affordable options on the market? Another major factor being avoided is that theres more people buying videogames than ever. Publishers crying about development costs when their newest entry is making record sales should not be taken seriously.And finally nintendo could absolutely sell the hardware at a loss and still make insane money on digital sales. They did that with the 3ds, and sony does this with their hardware. More people in the door to your online store.
>>721278191I call bullshit on wii selling more software. The average first party switch game sold at least twice as much as its wii counterpart. The hardware argument is retarded too because they're making more profit today and have a higher stock price
>make a $500 console, the most expensive base console on the market>the only games are remakes and portsWhy would I pay $500 for a $700 port of Super Mario Galaxy? What happened to Nintendo?
>>721281548No, because I recognize and accept consoles are dying.
>>721281358Exactly. Even at the most optimistic prices it's like they'd be $600, $1200 total. Normal people won't go for those prices in my opinion.>>721281390>If were going by historical precedent, we'll likely see sales drop by the start of year 2, everyone who wanted to get one regardless of price will have already done so and any future buyers will need to be convinced that 450 +70-80 dollar games is worth it. Wiiu and 3ds saw their sales sharply dip after a few months because of this.Animal Crossing and the Lite version will probably hit 2 years from now so sales won't dip by then, ACNH was huge and then they got Smash and 3D Zelda at some point, 2D Mario. Nintendo got a lot of franchises and with third party support helping sales the entire time.
>>721282223I didn't say the wii sold more software. And you're missing the point. The point is that way more people were buying Nintendo hardware and software in the past compared to today. Right now all they're doing is fleecing the people who've stuck around as much as possible and that's the only reason they're making more money. That's not sustainable.
>>721282717Ok PC vegan
>>721282763Yeah I'm more willing to think that nintendo is just being outright malicious here rather than being stupidly overconfident in the past. It's entirely likely they have a road map planned out with the pricing backlash in mind. Like i also said they still have the switch 1 install base to fall back on, unlike with the DS or GBA where they lied about how the next gen wasnt going to replace it, i do believe that will actually happen here. At least for a while. 3rd parties are not going to abandon the switch 1 anytime soon considering how abysmal the switch 2 sales apparently are.
>>721283191Reality doesn't care about your shitposting.
>>721282763Exactly, the worst scenario has happened for both shills and third parties. Sony has the PS3 era mindset again and Microsoft has the Xbone era mindset again. They believe people will buy their next products because of their backlogs and would spend any price for it, that's not what's going to happen. People will stick with their PS4s and Xbones, and if they have them, PS5s and XSeries, no one will jump into next gen but a very small few. Most will get a Switch 2, build/get a PC, or just buy a Steam Deck 2 when that releases. Third parties are going to start admitting that Nintendo and Steam are the market leaders of gaming.
>>721282962>The point is that way more people were buying Nintendo hardware and software in the past compared to todayYou are completely wrong. The Wii was a Wii sports machine for geriatrics. It had terrible software to hardware attachment rates. The DS was a bigger success, but got raped by flashcarts.15 years ago, Iwata had already started to use Blue ocean marketing to cultivate fanatics and not directly compete. I do understand what you are trying to say, but you are doing so in a retarded and factually incorrect way. Nintendo tried to compete with the gamecube and failed. Once Metroid prime failed to really make a splash like Halo ( or Mario 64 / OOT or goldeneye last gen) Nintendo gave up and pulled the plug. Yes, new blood doesn't even consider Nintendo an option Nintendo did this on purpose. Their real failure is in their inability to make any generation defining games anymore. They make Nintendo games for Nintendo consumers. They aren't the ones putting out pop-culture megasellers like Minecraft or Fortnite.
>>721283267meant for >>721282717
>>721283434Consoles are redundant and Sony and Microsoft both know the only way to survive is to sell their garbage to the growing third world markets. These will be Fifa machines for retarded africans, south americans and south asians who can't use a computer.
>>721239986into the trash
>>721283484Microsoft killed Minecraft and Fortnite is dying. Can't really say Roblox because the US Government is about to have their way with that one. All things are aligning to Nintendo taking over the kids market and Valve taking over the older gamers/adults market.
>>721282962>Right now all they're doing is fleecing the people who've stuck around as much as possible and that's the only reason they're making more money. That's not sustainable.I'd say that's what Playstation is doing whilst they're offering less than ever. Originally PS+ actually offered a lot of high quality games and the price was a lot lower.>>721283206Nintendo can bring back brouchers and such, $80 pricing is just something that's weird to talk about because most companies have been charging more for all kinds of things. 24 hours early access if you pay $10 more, things like that. It's rare companies actually offers the entire game for full price nowadays, Nintendo is one of the only companies that still does. They haven't even talked about the MKW DLC yet.>3rd parties are not going to abandon the switch 1 anytime soon considering how abysmal the switch 2 sales apparently areThird parties have been charting since launch>>721283434Unless Steam Deck 2 make any gains from the original then most companies won't bother optimizing for a device that sells so little. >Third parties are going to start admitting that Nintendo and Steam are the market leaders of gaming.Agreed. If you're not on Switch 2/Steam you're definitely losing a ton of money, we've seen how many games flopped on Epic
>>721283484Nothing I have said is wrong. Nintendo had an extremely successful home console and handheld. The Switch still hasn't surpassed the DS alone, and the DS was not carried by Wii Sports. Playstation had both a successful home console and portable and the Xbox was successful. All of those things were true at the same time for consoles 15 years ago. A stark contrast to today.
>>721283628Next Xbox made by Microsoft themselves is the Surface Line of Xbox, Microsoft will sell the XboxOS globally through partner devices be it handhelds or prebuilt living room PCs. The in-house box will only be sold on the Microsoft Store in North America and United Kingdoms. For both Sony and Microsoft, I don't know how they'll sell these devices at high prices but we'll see globally
>>721283735>Microsoft killed Minecraft and Fortnite is dying.Wow games are starting to wind down after literally a decade and hundreds of billions of dollars.
>>721281390>Just enough switch 2 exclusives to justify its existence (like 3 a year max)what? they've already announced at least 5 exclusives for 2026
>>721283961>he Switch still hasn't surpassed the DS aloneHey buddy you may want to consider what each of them and each of their games cost. The DS was carried by it's duel touch screen gimmick. That's the point, blue ocean = make weird shit that doesn't compete directly.
>>721284139I preferred when Nintendo does weird gimmicks
>>721284139Hey buddy you might want to do the same.
>>721283961And now they have an extremely successful hybrid console.
>>721283961Dunno about Xbox or Playstation but you're quite literally wrong about Nintendo lol.
>>721239986>Muh investor meetingWhen the fuck did you lil niggas turn into corporate followers? Play games damnit.
>>721284082The only exclusive for next year we have is dusk bloods. Everything else is releasing this year. Of the 6 exclusive games we have this year only 4 are first party, Thats extremely low for the first year and I dont think we're going to get a boom of first party games going foward. Metroid and pokemon are releasing on switch 1. Switch 2 editions arent being counted here.
>>721284269They still are. They are just failing at it. Look at Nintendo labo or mario kart live. Look at the virtual boy and the 3DS ( where they literally removed the 3D later lmao)Gimmicky nintendo makes hardware gimmicks and doesn't innovate in their software. Everything they put out is all flash and no substance.
>>721284428b-but inflatio...
>>721283889>Unless Steam Deck 2 make any gains from the original then most companies won't bother optimizing for a device that sells so little.Most are already starting to take it into account with Valve pushing for it more with rumors of them treating Deck 2 more like a console launch. The future is not pushing for high-end, it's making sure low-end looks and works great. While handhelds are the future, that's specifically the Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2, nothing else fits that category.
>>721283889>Unless Steam Deck 2 make any gains from the original then most companies won't bother optimizing for a device that sells so little.How well the Deck 2 sells has nothing to do with that. It's already an extremely capable device that gets tons and tons of games, features and support. What will determine its sales is simply how Valve treats its marketing and retail presence. They'll probably keep going the quiet, slow and steady route. It worked wonders for PC. They also know everybody else's handheld PC and future Xbox (lol) are just going to be running Steam anyway, so they don't even care about that.
>>721284430If you haven't noticed, were talking about the company that makes the games. Said company is making decisions based on what the investors want, that affects the games that we get to play. Hope that helps.
>>721284271You are the gayest retard that had ever existed. The DS had 1 million sales over the switch lmao at half the price for both games and hardware.
>>721284428Nothing I have said is wrong. I already said why they're making more money and why it's not healthy.
>>721269389Anon when they did mobile their stocks went up but they didn’t want to actually invest into it because the devs outside of IS did not like it
>>721284663Do you think they'll get a little louder with the marketing of the Steam Deck 2 given that the original Steam Deck was merely a test to see if such a device could sell?
>>721284776Hey buddy the point is flying so far over your head it'll reach mars before elon.
>>721269389Iwata was the one to fight against going mobile because he knew it would end up turning into gachashit. Exactly which happened right after iwata died. Fire emblem heroes has made more than the rest of the franchise.
>>721284843Knowing Valve, probably not. They don't really need to. Every handheld PC they inspire is going to be a Steam machine. But maybe if they solve the kernel anti-cheat problem and they know the casuals won't complain about not being able to play Fortnite, they might give it a bigger push into the mainstream. And the anti-cheat problem should resolve itself as more people buy the Deck or start using Linux.
>>721284936>Investors push for mobile games>Sabotage said mobile games to prove tat they're not worth it>Devs keep making games the old way Pretty based.
>>721239986I am winning so hard by not buying any Nintendo shit. Life's good.
>>721284779Healthier and more sustainable than how PS, Xbox, and Valve makes money. That's everybody else in the industry btw.
>>721285218I believe that's what they're counting on.
>>721285296>and Valve makes moneyAhahahahaI'm sorry, but that's funny. I don't even care about valve, it's just funny to me that you think that.
>>721285284What are you buying?
>>721285413Nothing I have said is wrong.
>>721285416Not Nintendo shit that's for sure.
>>721248528I work in a super market. I see kids with switvhes all thr time.Ffs some employees play on theirs during their break.You are full of shit and coping.
>>721285296Not him, but PS and Xbox are making more revenue, not profit. They're closing down studios left and right, laying off multiple employees, cancelling multiple projects, and can only focus on what's guaranteed money. They've both signaled that hardware isn't the future for them and that multiplatform is their future with the hope that Switch and Steam can boost them. They both pushed graphics too far and now have reached diminishing returns. Both have a large amount of debt they need to pay off to finally fulfill those investments.
>>721285547Are you afraid I'll make fun of what you're buying?
>>721240245What can they even do at this point? Full on and affordable VR???
>>721285456They literally rely entirely on one hardware pillar that if flounders, tanks everything else they do with it. Why do you think they trying to branch out into theme parks and movies. They know how risky their console model is.
AM I the only one who still loves nintendo.
>>721239986Isn't the point of being one step behind is that are ahead in the long run?
>>721248528Wtf is up with people who think like this>Gee I personaly haven't seen anyone using this thing, surely that must mean nobody is buying it!
>>721285706No, I love both Nintendo and Valve
>>721285706I love Nintendo.
>>721284493Yoshi, Mario Tennis, Pokémon Pokopia, and Fire Emblem are all Switch 2 exclusive
>>721285706I love the Switch, but the company is oretty scummy.Hell, i'm playing M&L Brothership right now
>>721285706I wish I could say I still do.
>>721285796>>721285825Thank fuck im sick of these griftersI checked nintendeens youtube account, he was having literally zero views approx 1k views per vid until he switched and started hated the month NS2 came out, fucking apthetic and it's same with the others too
>>721285982All these look and should be on switch 2
>>721285706I like the talent they employ and the games those people create, The switch 2 is a well built system. I, however, am not loyal to the point that I will turn a blind eye to the company trying to fuck me in the ass with price gouging. Nintendo is not your friend, It is a publicly traded company who has to prioritize their shareholders over your loyalty. Have you considered people are so any BECAUSE they like nintendo?
>>721285701>they can sneeze and make billions merely licensing out their decades of cultivated characters and stories>this is bad and I won't elaborate further
>>721285706I have a love-hate relationship. I love the people at Nintendo that make games but not the company itself. The company's current direction is what I disagree with.
>>721255447Nigger yiu are retarded.It won't sell50mil by holiday season, due to that being absurd and nintendo saying they have 20-25mil units ready for year1 sales.But that preproduced stock will be gone by january/february easy. Ffs its already at 8mil global.You fags are in DEEP denial its unreal.>inb4 goalpost shiftNot that anon btw
>>721285796Valve doesn't make games
>>721286207I mean last year companies were talking about going up from calling their studios Triple-A to Quad-A. They even said prices would increase to possibly 100. So whats the problem?Only one game so far was 80, DK was 70Do people really think GTA6 is going to be lower than 80?
>>721286481Deadlock, Left 4 Dead 3, Half-Life 3
>>721284428ds games were $35. now they get $60 for handheld games. makes quite a difference.
>>721286520The fact that all 3 major publishers are price gouging does not make it excusable. There have been rumors of GTA outright being 100 dollars, which is absurd, but doesnt give nintendo a free pass either. However, UNLIKE non-nintendo releases, those 80 dollar releases will go on sale within a year. Nintendo now has a policy of never dropping a game's MSRP and only putting them on sale for more than 20%-off on black friday.You're also forgetting the fact that once upon a time, nintendo had a reputation for being the affordable option. Now that wasn't really the case with the switch 1 generations, not even getting a nintendo selects lineup and the cost of peripherals, but the price jump from 1 to 2 in every single aspect is too blatant to ignore or excuse anymore. 50 dollar amiibo LMAO cmon man.
>>721286783Not bad
>>721286520>>721287204I also want to include how much more aggressive nintendo was with free addtional content and substancial paid DLC for a short time there. Balloon world was free while emerald rush is 20 bucks. Octo expansion was 20 dollars and added an entire new campaign. ACNL welcome amiibo was free, while ACNH wasnt even supported as long as nintendo stated. That mario golf game that came out late switch 1 blatantly had content held back as DLC and the game still barely had any content at the end.
>>721239986>Furukawa has said in an investors meeting the switch 2 price has priced out the younger market with their average audience agingI'm sure the virtualboy (cardboard version) will renew interest in the younger generation. it may even inspire legal child labor
>>721287204Nintendo games are polished and you get the whole game. RDR2 was more or less fine but actually received more bugs later which they never fixed. I don't get why companies always gets a pass for this. There's also some smoke bug if you got high end PC hardware.
>>721265554they could have instead they raised the ps5 price to $800
>>721287594>while ACNH wasnt even supported as long as nintendo statedThis is a lie. People lied about it just like people have been lying about Switch 2 the entire time.
>>721288067>Nintendo games are polished and you get the whole gameThey just released a paid cut-contend dlc for Bananza that's only a month old.
>>721244951What proof is there that RDR 2 is coming to the switch?
>>721287204The price increases are pretty insane. $100 for a pair of joycons in particular is wild, you can get a refurb kindle paperwhite for that price and have every book in the world in your hands on a "premium" device and we don't know yet if the new joycons are going to drift quickly or not where you might have to buy the $100 replacement whereas that Kindle is probably good to go for 10 years.
>>721287204>once upon a time, nintendo had a reputation for being the affordable optionFurukawa admitted recently that actual children are priced out of their products and that Nintendo should focus on pushing movies to them instead
>>721288067rockstar is just beyond greedy and evil they cut RDR2's legs out from under it trying to put a sharkcard copy into the game like GTA5, but they couldn't justify flying homing missile shooting horses
>>721288204That's just not how these things work, they finish the game and then start working on the additional mode. ER is way more content than the balloon mode in SMO>>721288251Besides some leakers that talked about it I think it leaked in some store and it's part of all the games that leaked before that mostly are already out. Only Elden Ring and RDR2 are still missing.Rockstar also reveals games on their own so it makes sense why it haven't been part of any directs or whatever.It also serves as a secondary purpose to speed up the GTA 6 port. Yeah, that most likely means Switch 2 will get RDR, GTA 6 and still not have GTA 5 as bizarre as that seems unless they had another team working on that which I doubt, there's been nobody talking about GTA 5.Found ithttps://nintenduo.com/exclusiva-red-dead-redemption-2-version-nintendo-switch-2/
>>721288480>they cut RDR2's legs out from under it trying to put a sharkcard copy into the game like GTA5, but they couldn't justify flying homing missile shooting horsesYup. But still it sounds like they're working on RDR3 next so T2 seems to be fine on them working on non-GTA titles as much money as that brings. I don't personally mind another Western, especially because of where GTA 6 takes place. I know they're probably go back to New York or whatever again which I think is boring, brings me no hype whatsoever
>>721288594A massive open world game like GTA6 would probably be too hamstrung by the Switch 2's CPU. RDR2 should run no problem since it can run on PS4 and that also has an awful CPU.
>>721288594Nintendo's shitty online wouldn't work for GTA. You can't even play Mario Party or Smash Bros without lag and you think you'll be able to do crazy GTA shit on it? Fucking delusional tendie.
>>721288887You really think size matters when gamekeys exist? GTA 6 could be 400GB and it doesn't matter. People will spend 110-120 and get that 512GB microsd express card.People trying to make this look like a Vita situation are hilarious, those were Sony's proprietary cardsthat was even more expensive.>GTA6 would probably be too hamstrung by the Switch 2's CPUEvery time people say this they get proven wrong, people thought Outlaws would run like shit and look like garbage, it didn't. >>721288912Stay mad bro, only had 1 connection error in MKW
>>721288912PSN is total dogshit and people claim to play online mutliplats on that
>>721289306And Switch online is worse. How's that a gotcha tendie? Nintendo hasn't proven you can do half the online shit the 360 could in 2005. Even their game chat has fucking lag lmao>>721289281Does your father ever get jealous of how well you suck Nintendo's dick or is he proud and gives you pointers?
All I wanted was to play Mario Sunshine this Summer and those faggots at Nintendo couldn’t even deliver. Worst case scenario is that we don’t get Luigi’s Mansion on NSO for Halloween.
>>721289281Massive referring to the scope, not the file size. >Every time people say this they get proven wrong, people thought Outlaws would run like shit and look like garbage, it didn't. Well Outlaws had to remove a lot of NPCs to make that happen. You're not getting a 1:1 version of it, you're getting a watered down handheld port. The same thing happened with Cyberpunk, it's way better than something like the FF15 Switch edition but it's still a lesser version.
>>721289446you just gotta get dolphin running man.
>kids can't afford itKids can't afford anything, they're kids.
Nintendo is over the moment GTA 6 drops. Nothing can stop the force of that game. They have nothing big in the bag to come close
>>721289463>Massive referring to the scopeRight, draw distance in Outlaws is still big. Everyone acting like GTA 6 will be some cut down version a la TW3 are retarded>Well Outlaws had to remove a lot of NPCs to make that happenYeah it's almost like GTA 6 will also have to remove some NPCs and traffic, shocker. And I know Sony fanboys will pretend that completely kills the game and PS5 has the "best version" of the game and then the PC version comes out and they'll just start the usual "well at least we played it first." Sony fanboys will keep coping as Playstation keeps selling less.
>>721289431>snoy is seething that PSN is overpriced underperforming shit
>>721289830it getting delayed another year and rockstar wanting to charge well over $100 for a sharkcard infested mess
>>721288067Dk bananza was definitely not polished Those void kong fights were terrible
I hope they just keep iterating on the same concept tbqh. Games have plateaud fucking hard in terms of what visuals can provide as well as what devs can realistically deliver in a reasonable timeframe and eventually handheld power/battery life will catch up.
People saying GTA VI is gonna be on Switch 2 remind me of people who used to say Wilds was gonna get ported too.Lilke c'mon, it's not happening.The tech gap between the Switch amd current gen consoles is closing but we're definitely not there yet. I don't see the Switch 2 getting stuff like MHW, DD2, WTW4 or GTAVI.
>>721290274Polish and drops are two different things. BOTW was insanely polished but had FPS drops in the master sword area, TOKT had some nasty drops with Switch 1
I wouldnt call a console that stopped selling units after its first month a "success"Go to any store and they will have them fully stocked and if you ask they'll tell you theyve been collecting dust for months now. Tragic.
>>721290492What does Wilds have to do with anything?>>721290812The fact people couldn't find PS5 due to scalpers meant people bought NS1 which helped Nintendo in the long run, those people are much more likely to buy Switch 2 now than PS6.
>>721289959>tendie somehow thinks a worse online infrastructure is going to be able to support GTAlollmao even
>>721290894PS6 and Xbox Series 720 are at least another 3-4 years away. Switch 2 will likely see a price increase either before holidays or after. The OG Switch already got a $40 price increase, an 8 year old handheld which was already obsolete when it came out.
>>721290812are you retarded?
>>721290812Yes but it's had record breaking success
>>721291541>Switch 2 will likely see a price increase either before holidays or after.I'm going to shitpost against the tendies so hard when this inevitably happens lmao
>>721291541The prices for switch 2 outside America are pretty good but no one mentions this
>>721290894Do people actually do this? Even as a kid (when my parents could only afford one console) it wasn't an either this or that situation, if I wanted a PS2, I was gonna get a PS2, I wouldn't have traded it for another console.
>>721291565Feel free to elaborate, retard. Until then, hold this L.>>721291615No it hasnt. Again, it hasnt sold JACK SHIT in nearly 3 months.
>>721291710What are they going for outside the US? 400?
>>721291823>it hasn't sold jack shit in nearly 3 months.Proof?
>>721291823Just asked them and they said Switch was selling so hang on to that L
>>721291541Well, Xbox is straight up dead now and Playstation has what? The new GoT? Lmao.Sony must be praying evey night that GTA doesn't get delayed again.
>>721291959Learn to read. Your proof was already posted.>>721292070Cool headcanon, lil bro
>>721292198You too lil bro
>>721291804I don't know I always see people online say multiple consoles were common but where I grew up people had 1 console and a lot of people had PCs, 1 console per generation at best. I do think a lot of parents today would say no to more than 1 console, economy isn't what it used to be. Everything is more expensive.
>>721292178GTA 6 isnt even a timed exclusive for Sony. They ONLY have the advertising rights. Xbox will get it same day. And Sony is 100% gonna bump up their systems another $50, should happen in less than a month. It would be funny if they gutted the storage again too, maybe 700GB this time?
What is there to do?Nintendo is going to overtake Disney Just release soulless switch consoles and turn every franchise into breath of the wild
>>721285706Wouldn't say I love them. I enjoy a lot of their games but they're not really doing their PR any favors lately.
>>721241052>Thinking families that can't afford a simple game console are going to take a trip to a museum and pay for hotel rooms, restaurants, etc.Kek.
>>721244427And also, who is going to like the Mario movie if they haven't played the games? Even with nostalgia I thought the Mario movie was terrible, and I can't imagine somebody with no outside exposure would enjoy it.
People say "is like the games but not the company" but the games have also taken a nose dive,We're stuck with open world mario kart for 8+ years
>>721293386MKW is the best MK and Bananza is my favorite game this year so
It's pretty much over, Nintendo and Valve already won 10th generation before it even really got started.Nintendo's plans:>Switch 2, possible Switch 2 without dock, Switch 2 Lite, Switch 2 OLED, exclusives, theme parks, movies, animations, comics, toysValve's plans:>Steam Frame, Steam home console, Steam Deck 2, Steam/PC exclusives, proper console launches for home console and Deck 2, SteamOS expansion from handhelds, to desktops, to possible VRsSony's plans:>PS6 home console and handheld, multiplatform with plans to optimize for Switch and Steam hardwareMicrosoft's plans:>Xbox home console made by them only sold in NA and UK on their online store, third party handhelds and home consoles released through iterations, multiplatform with plans to optimize for Switch and Steam hardwareNintendo and Valve are taking over with their ecosystems going for audiences of different ages. Gaming is looking to belong to both with Valve finally addressing their anti-cheat issues on SteamOS. This is a fight Sony and Microsoft can't win.
>>721293535>Fetus game is my favorite game this year soYou need to be 18 years or older to post here.
>>721291541>>721293547It's legitimately over for PlayStation and Xbox, if Nintendo didn't already kill them, Valve's about to put them both six feet under.
>>721293640grandpa being grumpy at the young'uns enjoying stuff, what else is new
>>721293535That says sad things about you more than anything else.
>>721248646Eh, I mean, there's decades worth of shit worth playing that you can easily emulate and indies are very easy to run.A modded Wii U gives you acces to Nintendo's entire history minus 3DS and Switch 1/2.Keeping up with what's new in gaming has always been a luxury, sadly.
im convinced the sony IDF members in this thread are paid to spread negative press about nintendo
>>721294183>are paid to spread negative press about nintendoNintendo does that without needing to pay anyone lolTendies just defend them for free.
it depends,the gaming landscape is constantly changing and nintendo's entire history is being ahead of the curve when it comes to innovationif the technology for vr gaming improves in 10/20 years i can totally see them trying that out
>>721293535>MKW is the best MK and Bananza is my favorite game this year soThis. All my buddies say MKW is the best mario kart, I also agree DK is best game of the year
>>721291385sorry snoy, but PSN has always been the worst of the three
V/ jannies need to ban obvious console war threads
>>721293535>I have shit taste so i LIKE these shit gamesNot the own you thought it was
>>721291385>721290894PSN was down for hours with silksong. Nintendo actually was the best by far and yet more people bought it on the eshop than psn
>>721294950PSN was the only store NOT killed by people buying silksong in droves
>>721294950>tendie trying to desperately convince others than a network that can't even run a party game like smash bros without lag in a 3 minute match could run a complex game like GTAInsane that you believe this..
>>721295093Xbox was fine too. Shit unfinished game tho, glad i didnt pay for it
>>721295293>snoy is still seething at the fact that anyone that has tried to play a sony console online knows how dogshit PSN is
>>721295472Says the guy with shitty peer to peer servers that Nintendo charges him for lmao
we will never get the old Nintendo backwii u/3ds was the last generation to have soul
>>721295472>Nintendo's infrastructure is worse than 2005's xbox 360Lmao
>>721295671People are slowly waking up to that fact. Took me way too long to realize it myself.
>>721295549keep coping snoyPSN is slow, unreliable dogshit that leaks credit card information every month
My NS2 is just a glorified 3rd party machine because idk what Nintendo but im not paying $20 for non-existent servers nor am i paying $80 for old games.
>>721295972>what Nintendo is smoking but**oops
>>721239986>Furukawa has said in an investors meeting the switch 2 price has priced out the younger market with their average audience aging>release increasingly childish games for toddlers What was the plan?
>>721296305they tried to appeal to the frozen market with dk bananza but only pedos brought it
Given this >>721293547, how is Sony going to be able to go against Nintendo, and how is Microsoft going to be able to go against Valve, realistically?
>>721298209Literally none of them can go against valve.
>>721299150Nintendo won't, nor will Valve go after Nintendo, different markets, different games. Their blue ocean strategies killed Sony's and Microsoft's red ocean strategies. Sony and Microsoft kept wasting money on graphics and now they're force to put their games on Nintendo's and Valve's platforms. They're still trying to compete next gen but they have no way to lower the prices so they're going to have to fight against too companies that will have affordable hardware next gen along with exclusives. It's over for PlayStation and Xbox, multiplatform is their future.
>>721239986This is the first system wirh launched without reggie in charge
Nintendo youtubers are saying their views have plummeted Switch 2 is really falling off
