so what's next hero in Deadlock
they should add a hero called your mom and her power is being so fat the game needs to invent a new type of byte just to fit her
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
find out in 4-5 months when valve employees come back from mandatory vacation.
>>721272378I like the left one doe
That anon who suggested adding demoman genuinely had a great idea
i have 2 hours in the game, i am now the objectivist god of balanceopanyone i dont likewaifusmina specificallyupanyone i likevictor victor againsex with victor
>>721272378Skitzo fuck off
>>721273208Did also have level up ideas that made the post too long
>>721272378>person on right>how did you know i was somali
they should add this guy
>>721271783reloading in this game is a fucking chore, are there any early items that lessen the gap between being able to shoot again?
>>721275857That game has one of the worst fanbases I've ever seen, we don't need that baggage
>>721275926Active Reload and Quicksilver reload, staple items in basically every build
>>721271783>some characters have great kits that are easy to play with>some characters have abilities that synergize well with themselves and items>and there are characters who just have a bunch of random shit for no reasonWith the most recent updates I feel they killed a lot of character expression and now people just pick whatever it is meta else you die immediately. Character like seven are easy to build for but what the fuck do you even do with Mirage and viscous. their abilities are just there and whatever you build is usually just half as good as other characters.
The worst part is having to pick 3 dudes to playI've been frosty mciceguy in all but 1 game because I have him enabled with two othersIf I turn him off, I'll just get some other fuck i don't want to play instead of the ones I do
Quickest speedrun to cancer hyper mobility hyper scaling I've ever seen in a "moba">Two dashes, but also they reload and give her more damage >Also just passively does more damage>Also said passive also just passively bursts you>And scales her ult, which she can use while flying thanks to her double dash>Which already does insane damage before scaling>And it silences you, so gl escapingNo wonder the game is bleeding players
>>721278593>>Which already does insane damage before scalingNot really. It's like a worse version of Bebop's ult.>>And it silences you, so gl escapingYeah, this is bullshit.
>>721278593They are 100% nerfing her before release so I wouldn't get too worked up. On the bright side, the dumb retarded e girls playing her can get kills without having to actually try so it is increasing the success of deadlock e dates.
>>721278801That they added her to begin with bodes really poorly.Usually it takes years before characters like this get added, not in the fucking alpha
>>721278801Mina is annoying, but she is nowhere near as bad as Infernus.
i hate how long the games go on fortheyre fucking endlessit just turns into team wipe except 1 guy whos in the corner ratting, repeat
VenatorSAINTS...It's coming...
>Be me>Pick wrong character by mistake>Make no effort to learn how they work>Buy items at random, don't read what they do>Nearly 10 times as many deaths as kills>Team carries me"GG EZ"
>>721276437>ViscousI get Mirage, but you can't see the synergy Viscous has?
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>721280071in your mouth
>>721279909honestly not really.>his 1 is super short range and area of effect, even with tier 3 you can fuck it up>his 2 is there to save people, so I get that one>his 3 is easy to miss and people use it more as a movement tool>his 4 is there to stun niggas during team fights but most just use it to run awayWatch a few people playing him and it kinda just feels like they are carried most of the time.
>>721280357Yeah, Viscous is the drive by hero.>Puddle punch into fights>Goo the enemies while flying by>Use your pretty decent gun to try to get some meaty damage in>Cube an ally>Ult and rescue beam them away safelyOr just say fuck it and go full gun because for some reason it can get nutty in fire rate.
>>721280545you got any good builds. the ones i tested were all shit
>>721280664I'm still tweaking mine, I'll post the id when I am satisfied to share it more often. Keep in mind, I'm more of a memelord rather than a proper player, so a lot of my builds are more unorthodox and weird shit rather than "good".
>>721271783>so what's next hero in DeadlockI assume Priest is up next. Considering they've already got one reference to Kouta Hirano in Drifter, they might as well go full Anderson. Someone leaked that there's going to be a Kunkka hero as well.Beyond that, I would hope for some Hermetic Order alchemist, Skinwalker-like creature or some big game hunter mixed with a cryptozoologist.>>721278593The only issue is her ult melting towers. She's only a problem if your team refuses to buy at least one slowing hex/knockdown and then focus her.Doorman is by far the most cancerous of the new heroes added.
Slork.
I want a mimic/techies character. Someone who puts bombs on crates and can disguise as one.>>721272378>he's been posting this for over a year now
>>721272378Don't you get tired of posting the same shitty bait every thread? Artifact was going to fail either way with RIchard Garfield designing it.
>>721278593>Quickest speedrun to cancer hyper mobilityAPOLOGIZE
>>721271783I don't know if the speech bubbles was intentional, but it makes extremely toxic chat so fucking funny, it always comes off as extreme butthurt and you can autistically imagine the character saying it
>>721281747>Get first blood>Ez>After the bubble disappears>In case you didn't get to read it:>EZ
>>721276267thanks. I haven't played anything but a few bot games and I sucked so need all the help I can get. can see this will be the next big thing
>>721281151I want a Neeko character that can disguise as allies/troopers/neutral creeps, it seems our interests align.
Are Wisconsin girls really like this?
>>721278593Only nerf she needs is for ult to deal half damage to objectives, including midboss.>>721278872Deadlock is a mobility game.
>>721282597 Exactly, man. Give me some chaotic espionage shit. Disguise as your team’s carry, stand mid-lane, bait an entire enemy rotation, then explode into a pack of homing mines or something. Or go full neutral creep during downtime, chill in the jungle like a goblin until someone facechecks you. Playing mind games is way more fun than straight fragging half the time.
>>721271783Looks jerma
>>721271783
>>721282752Lizards? Yes.
>>721278872Her ult will get nerfed vs objectives, and as people get better and learn to buy items to deal with her dashing away she becomes really easy to kill.
>>721282923I love majestic leap man, such a nice feeling item.
>>721282752Vyper is like the most believeable femcel character I've seen in awhile and she's more just a fuckup than that specific archtype
>>721283378It's kinda funny how the only character that responds to her advances is fucking Billy.
>>721283204i think its proof they want this game to be as crazy as possible with movement and arial combat and all that shit, which i'm very excited about
>>721275857omg its undertale robot!!!
>>721283637>nerfs heavy cancel
>>721283762hmc movement was great just by having it, it's already good enough at baiting out parries and for its intended use of run n gun. It got downright insane with melee charge.
>>721283204>>721282923>magestic leap>stamina masterythats how you make a based build
Sovlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4VjWNUb2E
>>721282752>same actor as ALLMIND from Armored Core
Anyone know about the Guardians having voicelines?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8l5I7ngJY
>>721284509Yeah, they were Neon Prime leftovers. Wouldn't fit Deadlock but funny nonetheless.
>>721283494girlfailure mets boyfailure, love blossoms <3 they kill each other eventually probably
>>721284753I'd rather them to be like Shao Kahn and Sindel. Wonderfully shitty but absolutely devoted to each other. Anyways, I just want like some how the complete opposite of whatever the fuck Sinclair's relationship is like. Like only these two get each other internally and implicitly. Plus it would be funny if Billy was a cuck because of her Lash obsession.
The big "open beta now" moment is when they rework jungle, update all the jungle, guardian/walker and patron models.
>>721280357Viscous is like the second most nerfed hero because he has broken burst damage, be it gun or Spirit.
>>721285395I don't think Guardians and Walkers will get too much of an upgrade, they are fine as is.Jungle will be the big one.
>>721285464Well they already have new models just not finished. New patron model is also leaked, it sits in a throne.
>>721285464What if it took the Monday Night Combat route where two things happen.1. You can spend currency on additional and special minions to send up the lane instead of on items.2. As things progress you get stronger minions to the point where the base starts spewing out the equivalent of Guardians and Walkers up the lane.
>>721285786I really hate it compared to what we have currently.>>721285862Supposedly they are working on something like that with Patron voicelines referring to a "Juggernaut" or something like that.
>>721284753You're joking but I think either Billy or Vyper would make good protagonists for the VN since they're both massive fuckups with obvious room to grow. Billy more so since he just needs a older figure or rolemodel to tardwrangle his rage into a postive direction
>>721286057Snake Game.
>>721271783I let this game rot in my library for over a year and finally tried it last week. I like how something as seemingly basic as Hollidays barrel is actually a very versatile tool for poke, burst, setup and combos. Not too keen on many of the designs, but I quite like the variety of characters and their tools.Anyways how about a skater/rollerblade character that can grind on walls/props. Some momentum mechanic where on of their abilities is a melee hit with their skateboard/whatever that scales with speed.
>>721285956Nah it looks way more thematic to the world. A literal part of a building rips off and becomes sentient.
>>721286057i think vyper is too psychopathic to have room to growbilly could though, he's more pathetic than anything else
>>721286231Maybe, but the current guardians fit with the occultist ritual thing a lot more and has thematic ties to the candle troopers.
>>721286213>one guy with titanfall movementThat might work
>>721286313Ties to a temporary units, no way the candle boys are sticking around either.
>>721286232>That voiceline from Vindicta basically saying Billy is a poser.>>721286434Sad, because I love the goofy little guys. Again, fits with the occult ritual stuff.
>>721286232>he's more pathetic than anything elseMy impression is that he's been neglected by the society he's found himself in (maybe since birth if you assume he was born as a goat headed freak) and is perma seething as a result. Like I said earlier he probably had zero father figures in his life (or shit ones) and by the time he's a adult he's a seething ball of rage with nothing to really direct it towards. So he just copes and seethes at everything he judges as injust which is why he comes off across as a poser.
>>721286856It'd be funny if someone like Paige manages to turn him around, iirc, she's the only person next to Vyper that he has a positive interaction with.
>>721276437Mirage will get reworked to not be a boring POS. Viscous is great with mobility items and can clear camps very easily
>its a mina uses her absurd hyper mobility, damage and ult to repeatedly solo guardians in literal seconds and basically no one can do anything about it because she has twice the dashes anyone else has and her ult also silences
>>721288614Your cc, bro?
>>721288738Brb being everywhere Mina is on the map as the CC guy who can get her when she's floating in the air when the game didn't actually let me play anyone who can hard CC her at that range because you need to line up 3 people while she has a low cooldown double teleport so she's always at everywhere before everyone else and away too
>>721288943Not my problem
>BillyIntended: Bad-ass goat man with a punk aestheticReality: Whiny fucking loser who just seethes all the time
>>721286856>Nice try buddy, but people have been trying to kill me since I was in the WOMBBilly has had a very hard life.
So many of the designs in this are like... who the fuck are these for? it it wasn't a volvo game no one would careLike why the fuck does Yamato have an actual penis for a head?
>>721289334Because she came from a completely different version of the game back when it was a cyberpunk setting called Neon Prime.It's the same deal with Grey Talon and even Shiv.
>>721289552>He says, posting a picture where her head isn't a penisThey CHANGED her design to be a sapient dildo
>>721289604Nigger, this is concept art for her remodel. You can find footage of Neon Prime with the Yamato currently in Deadlock alongside a few others.
>>721289604>they changed her design to be completely out of step with the rest of the gameno they haven't gotten around to changing it yet because the game wasn't supposed to go public for another year
>>721289705>Still doens't have a penis headWhat's your pointThe version in the game has a dildo for a headYou can post art all day, if its not in the game, its not the design they used
>>721289552>>721289705I hope the model is as good as the fan one floating around. >>721289824Designs aren't final. There are test models in the game now to replace Vyper, Viscous, and a bunch of others.
guy that literally steals your soulshe gives them back when he dies
>Neon Prime discussion.We avoided such a shit show.
>>721290247I'm glad they kept at least some of the ideas from Neon Prime even if most of what they had clearly didn't work.
>I NEED to turn the based lightbulb head lady into a generic waifufaggots
>>721291348It's a matter of fitting the setting. Ayylmao weeb might've worked in an intergalactic cyberpunk setting, not so much in prohibition era new york with occultist elements.
>>721291348Yamato is ugly and doesn't even fit the current direction of the game.
>>721271783honest question, is there ANYONE here who is older then 28 playing this game / talking about this game? Can we do an age check? If you are OVER 28 reply to this post with why you like this game
>>72129170853I just play the ghost girl and stare at her thighs
>>721291708Just hit the cutoff of your question:Because I was a DOTArd and I love movement shooters.
>>721291708its a lot of fun, i'd play dota2 but ive already got 8k hours on it and theres a point where you just play one videogame too much to want to play another secondhonestly id be suprised if there are any players under 25, in the game voice chat everyone just sounds like depressed older men
>>721291787>>721291928how do you deal with the first 10 minutes of the game being a complete snoozefest where you sit around popping balloons? This is the big bottle neck I just cant get past
>>721292290>popping balloonsI don't. Souls are auto collected in a radius around me so I spend most of the laning phase dunking on my enemies to make them back off.
>>721292290bro if you dont find popping balloons irl fun then idk you might be a fucking vulcan or some shit
>>721292378but then your opponent just sits back as fuck popping your ballons
>>721280357>1nuke, nothing special but at max level can possibly deal 300% damage in appropriate locations>2can save people, can save yourself, since you get mobility with 3 and ulti you become even more slippery>3long range, spammable AoE nuke that has really strong displacement if used correctly and can move both yourself, allies and enemies this skill is fucking awesome. and it's melee damage so it applies all on hit melee item effects (such as lifestrike). key to using it is realizing you can cast it on walls and knock enemies like 15 meters in the wrong direction>4can use it to just get the fuck out, can use it to cause chaos, can rape people indoors, when max level you can use your other abilities and items when rolling so it can be used to chase people down and nuke people with 1 and 3, and you can blink onto people to deal an additional hit
>>721292546Not if I bully them out of lane so they don't have time to deny.
>>721291708i'm 32 and I like dota but swore I would never ever ever play it again, this is like dota but good
>>721271783He really said that ?
>>721292659show me a replay where you do this.
>>721291708I'm hoping the game will have other modes, maybe some PvE like a Mann VS Machine equivalent, I'm really interested in what this game will morph into on release but I know I'm too old to get good at competitive games, especially when they require aiming AND extensive meta knowledge
>>721293561When I get home from work, sure. But what do you think that Billy, Shivs and Drifters do all lane? Pussy foot?
>>721291708it's fun as hellbut I have like 4k hrs in dota and 2k in tf2 so I already know how to play this game
>>721293635i'm asking because it takes a split second to deny orbs, you're likely just playing against actual stupid people that don't even know you can deny.the choice between shooting at you for 20 damage or stealing your orb is such an easy decision to make that i refuse to believe people are actually not denying your orbs as you let them float for 2 seconds.or you're bullshitting and securing your orbs, or controlling your lane so hard that you're meleeing every trooper which is valid.
>>721292290you must dump your skills to maximize damageeither you spend it popping balloons faster so you can push and end the lane phase or spend it killing the enemy so you can push and end the lane phasethen you can immediately hop around to your teammates lanes and help them end the laning phase so you can all stop popping balloonsthis can be done under 10 minutesthe game ends between 20-40 minutes
>>721294007Not him, but look at the Shiv gameplay in this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a59ZKuSg_i0Most of the orbs aren't being denied or interacted with, he is switching between bullying the McGinnis/Abrams or pushing the wave. There are several points you can see orbs just naturally popping.
>watching people play the game>reading guidescuckoldry
>>721294513I just plucked that video as an example of what laning in deadlock is more like, being a pussy and trading souls through secures/denies isn't going to get you far.
>>721291708I'm 37 and I talk about the game, but I don't play it. Dota 2 killed my interest in games like this, but I still like Valve.
where's my gambler from wc3 dota gaben, let me get that sweet soul betting character in debt to wraith and just an all around sleezebag
>>721278593Isnt she literally one of the weakest heroes in the game if she gets focused early. She cant recover at all.
>>721294828No, because she has the best mobility in the game with a hitscan weapon and the ability to effectivel flyy. She can't be focussed if she's not stupid.
>>721271783Venator (Priest) was the most complete and people thought he'd be part of this update. Witch (Boho), Swan and Skyrunner will probably be added with him.>>721286213A carhop girl would be cool.
>>721294117Never played Shiv, didn't realize you can shotgun jump with the alt-fire, neat.
>>721295234Try doing it with express shot or split shot
>>721294117I was gonna say so far I'm not impressed after he got first blooded but then he came back to the lane and fucked them up
>>721286856Is Billy the Jersey Devil?
>>72129170833 years old here
craziest part about this game is there being an entire wiki dedicated to JUST the movement options and tech in the game and specifically for each character https://www.dlmovement.wiki/doku.php/start
>>721296475Movement is one thing that games should always get right.
>>721291708Just turned 29. I enjoy the complexity.
>>721291708I'm almost 34.I've been playing Dota and MOBAs in general since I was like 12.
>>72129170832, it's pretty cool, I was also a dotard so I adapted fast
>>721298864The day they removed the ability to mod and killed the NBA Jam announcer was the day Dota 2's soul died.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtCVSBvHnBo
why do we have so many shitters here that complain about mina? surely people realize that she is, at best, average power level? even at the lowest skill brackets she has a pretty poor performance.
>>72129170832, Already sunk Over 500 hours in somehow with another friend who's a year younger.I like how this game doesn't have some set meta and will continue playing for as long as I can be flexible with builds.Love how agile you feel too.
Just had a game where we dunked on haze so hard he quit before the 10 minute mark. the due only had 3 deaths but was unable to kill me or geist with a fucking yamato as lane partner. I am going to download the replay jsut to check if he raged in chat
>>721299059literally never been a metric that mattersat lower levels she's popular because she's the hyper mobility character that's also a cute girl for troonsthese characters nearly always have low win rates yet dominate in comp where the players are actually goodits like saying medvh (completely invincible alt form that let him get 100% perfect vision of the enemy team by flying over walls, invul nearly on demand, team teleports), Genjizzle (something like 5 mobility tools, half of which reset on ASSIST) and Dehaka (global teleport into hard CC chain) were bad in Hots becuase they didn't have the best win rates, even though their dominance in Comp and how the team with the most of these guys specificlaly pretty much always won is a large part of why Hots died off and killed its comp scene entirely
>>721290247>>721291071ya thematically it was a complete mess but hey thats what early closed alphas are for,
>>721271783barring something completely out of left field I would say Slork will finally get his day.
>>721299059in the hands of a good aimer shes oppressive as hell in lane, even in lower ranks they just need to shoot heads until love bites proc and thats lane free farm and poke. she falls off hard if aimers cant play the rest of the game tho
>>721302539They should use my concept of a Thulian Sorceress from Germany that uses a variety of Aryan magics. The nazis will still exhist but without the backdrop of WWI they never took off and have become a small but powerful magical cult looking to purifiy the world.
>>721302692>aiming as minashe has the lowest bullet damage in the game and love bites procs at the same rate no matter where you hit, just go for the center of mass.
>>721302964oh i didnt know that, never played her. as a new player she seems super oppressive in lane and a big nuisance that i struggle against
>>721296475I don't think I'm young enough for this GunZ type shit anymore boss
>>721271783Why do the text boxes in Deadlock make saying nigger so much funnier?
>>721286057Paige does a good job tard wrangling billy telling him hating her doesn't make any sense because she doesn't even know her.
>>721303243because you read them as the characters.
>>721303397Which characters would actually say nigger though? It is the 1920's so it should be pretty common.
>>721303150>enemy is doing flips and shit>pull out the acme anvil
>>721303493>Seven on the electric chair, being asked if he has any final words before execution:
>>721303493Keep in mind that they have literal demons walking around, the insult would Ixiggers.
>>721303493https://youtu.be/6l-vr5o4qAUI urge everyone to watch this match.>looking for a vyper guide>find this video>about 6 minutes in Grey Talon starts to be mind broken>he fights with the other teammates, Dynamo is especially vocal about how bad of a teammate talon is>Grey talon proceeds to literally throw the match, he even goes out of his way to get the spirit urn and wait for the other team to kill him near the delivery spot>even so the team doesn't give up and fights on, shitting on talon at all times>they still managed to win even though the game took almost an hour>even the other team starts dunking on TalonSeeing Dynamo sayin "STFU TALON YOU ARE RUINING MY VIBES" and how much he hates russians is hilarious.
>>721272320xD
>>72129170828was looking for a new moba because>LoLLoL, no. fuck no.>Dota 2gate entry isnt worth it>HoNdead >heroes of the stormdead before i could enjoy it>smitecompany sold its soul a loooong time ago>predecessor/paragonhow dead do you want your moba?only thing keeping deadlock afloat is the fact that the game is fun and that its made by valve. that is it!
>>721301958>literally never been a metric that mattersexcept that nobody here is complaining about their tournament performances. they are not facing tournament teams employing tournament strategies.oh, and mina has mid-level showings in tournaments, anyway. she wins just about as much as she loses, and isn't a particularly contested pick. the only statistic in a competitive environment she stands out in is farming. not dealing damage, not damaging objectives.>she's the hyper mobility characterif two very slow low ranged omnidirectional dashes that don't interact with momentum and don't allow for literally any movement tricks on a 2 stamina character is hyper mobility to you, you'll need to invent a new phrase to describe viscous, lash, and holliday.>these characters nearly always have low win rates yet dominate in comp where the players are actually goodtrue... except she isn't one of those characters, because nothing about her kit is enhanced or demands organized play, other than the most basic of following up a teammates CC with your ult for optimized damage output.
>>721284101>goes from a purposely robotic silted performance to one of the most realistic nasty ghetto bitches I’ve heard in a gameHonestly I’m impressed
>lashjumps to X>viscousalso op>holidayalso op, and you can see her mobility tools and react before she uses themmina can dash in any direction she wants any time she wants and every time she does so, she gets damage and ammo in a game where reloading is otherwise insanely slow unless you buy a specific item which works on a coodlwn
>>721304318https://youtu.be/WQW6kNLyGZ0?t=1088>this is the average mirage player
>>721304318What's with the bot insult? Tons of people throw that out even if I am on coms speaking and trying to wrangle the team.
>>721305192kek, thats hilarious
>>721282923An amazing play by Bee bin Bop, emir of the Sapphire Flame mujahideen. Mashallah.
>>721278593>watch enemy Mina take 15 minutes and five deaths to kill guardian>gets hooked by Bebop every 15 secondsAs long as her playerbase is retarded it almost equals out
>doesn't know how lash works>doesn't know that mina's 2 isn't a reload OR a damage increaseholy fuck... this is the power of mina complainers...
>>721296475I've been doing this shit accidentally for over a year and only now know how to do it consistently. Insane.
>>721289604>>721289824Anon the art he's posting is concept art for what they're changing her TO, not what they changed her from. The dildo head is the old design, those art pieces are for her new design. They're making her a Yakuza samurai demon chick.
>>721305192FOR THE DJINN!
>>721305412People have no idea how to argue online ingame anymore
>>721305412"bot" means like a video game bot. which are usually not very smart.
>>721305783I guess? But it's the most I've heard this particular insult in an online game, it's mostly retard, nigger and several nationality based insults.
>>721305873it is safer than saying retard or nigger.
>>721305192>>721305768obligatory https://files.catbox.moe/0vz8un.mp4
>>721271783cant wait til they drop the fomo key beta access and it launches with less than 50k players because underneathe all the secrecy and faux hype it's (somehow) a more gayer, androgynous coded overwatch with added moba cancer
>mina is op-Anvil.>b-butAnvil.
>>721305115I think you're really overestimating how good the Mina dash is if you consider it better than Lash's hook. It starts off at an almost 30 second cooldown, and need to hit the second upgrade to get the 8 extra bullets and fire rate increase. By the time she gets to the final tier and can spam it, you should be able to buy slowing hex or some other counter item to shut her down. It doesn't even make her as mobile as lash or viscous, and she has less health than them too. Literally just buy slowing hex, knockdown, or any other disable item. It's good against other heroes too so it's not like it's a waste.
>>721306082>More gayerNo confirmed buttfuckers or carpet munchers yet, we do have confirmed straight people.
>this falloffOh mein gott, how DEAD is this.
I have no clue what to do when you get behind in this game.
>>721306082Why cant you wait? How does the success of a game you dont play affect.you? Do you really have so little going on in life?
>>721304930>only thing keeping a game afloat is it's fun
>>721306302>Slow her down>She literally teleports the exact same distance, which is twice as far as anyone elseWow, that fixed literally nothing
>>721306819Understand Moba types often have severe mental health issues.
>>721306620Me neither. I usually play passove outside of trying to push up lanes and set up urns. Im terrible at farming nuetrals efficiently
>>721306872Read item descriptions retard. Genuine skill issue.
>>72129170835 and I love it, reminds me of kz/surf from cs with air strafe and all that good shit, mixed with dota mechanics which I was never good at but in a shooter environment I'm thriving.
>>72129170833. I'll follow anything Icefrog does. Dude is a god.
>>721299059The only thing that's genuinely good about her is solo pushing with the ult. Other than that she's totally mediocre and outclassed by the other new heroes.
>>72129170829 here and while I adore the aesthetic and movement mechanics, it's just too much of a time investment to get into. I had 1500 hours of dota 2 when I was in high school into college and I can't stand the genre anymore. In deadlock, there's just too much to think about at any given moment for me to consider it a 'leisure' activity, but I can't deny the amount of TLC that's gone into it. I love the lore, aesthetic, and personality that it has.
>>721305772Its what we get when you wont let gen-z learn any real slurs.
>>721287030There's also Geist, unironicallyEven if she's a bitch about it, she insists on him having some self respect by calling him William instead of Billy
>>721303493Warden unequivocally.
>>72129170832Came for Ivy, stayed for the gameplay. And for Ivy
>>721308415then she buys debuff remover and you're fucked again
>>721314430warden isn't a cop, and his personality actually amicable. he just wants to protect the world from the patrons.based on the incomplete interactions characters have with him, he's meant to be a miserable, grim and permanently-gloomy alchemist who wears an outfit consistently referred to as ridiculous or compared to a halloween costume.i don't see him ever saying nigger, unless it was the secret invocation that disintegrates patrons.
>>721306197>*presses 2*Thanks for your input, anvil nerd. Sorry you had to spend your last 3.2k for it though! :)
>>721314705ivy tips/build?
>>721272320If they added your mom to Deadlock, Bebop would be the second fattest hooker in the game.
>>721315093Excellent work.
>>721314945Was doing thwompwalk with double stun + vortex web after health nova + locket rush, but it seems to have fallen off in effectiveness randomlyCurrently experimenting with more damage-oriented options, such as replacing locket with cold front and picking up 3200g worth of gun items early on for the weapon damage boost
>>721315465the nerf to onhit items has absolutely raped gun support ivy. Inhibitor and toxic bullets takes upwards of 15 headshots to proc at anything past dick length. Really tired of only coming online past 25k souls every game for pretty much every build
>Install game>pick some dude who can knock people up with a stomp>have no idea what the hell is going on but get my teammate a bunch of kills with some good plays, mainly get what's happening but damage feedback feels weird since I look at my health and I'm like at 10% when it didn't feel like I was being hit by shit that hard>we get to ~15 minutes and the point where towers start going down>the enemies from the other lane at are like 19/1 k/d>absolutely trash my ass and my team's ass completely unopposedOh yeah, forgot this was a moba.
>>721272378And Wraith's here too!
>>721278593>Buy knockdown or slowing hex>rape herIt's that easy.
>>721315928You should exert influence on the other lanes with the advantage you gain from winning yours.
So why did everyone suddenly decide this game is good now? Did they change something?
>>721316253It got a small graphical overhaul and introduced an anime vampire waifuYes, that's all you need to distract shitposters
>>721289025WRANGLING EM
>>721316253nobody plays this garbage, its just a handful of mazed shitters jerking each other off
>blood tributename 1 hero who even buys this pos
>>721314735Then you can buy Knockdown to get two things against her. Besides, you can still catch Mina with slowing hex for long enough to prevent a teleport away as long as she isn't expecting the hex. If you constantly spam it you deserve to get debuff removed. Better to save it for kill confirms. Also debuff remover is 3,200 while slowing hex is 1,600. That price difference kind of matters in the early game. And chances are the Mina won't invest in debuff remover unless she gets constantly harassed by slowing hex or there's a debuff hero on your team.
>>721313279>teammate calls other a faggot at the 4 minute mark>let’s it eat away at him for the next 40 minutes>keeps trying to do a “gotcha” here and there>as we’re all dead near the end comments on it again>absolutely everyone snaps and just starts laying into him>leave’s immediately, 20 seconds before it’s actually overThat shit was 3 weeks ago and it was so pathetic it burned directly into my mind
>>721282923Why is he jacking off before jumping?
Are bot games in any way representative of what the real game is like?I want to learn but all the characters and building items and shit is kinda daunting and i dont want to grief my team. never played a moba before
>>721320110Kinda, real players don't react as quickly as some of the bots do.Also, bots don't seem to contest urns.
>>721320110>Are bot games in any way representative of what the real game is like?Mechanically? AbsolutelyPlayer intelligence and skill? Absolutely notJust join whenever, you’re going to learn how retarded some people are quick, maybe look up a guide on farming if you’re confident is shaky, as long as you’re a thousand or so ahead of the enemy you should have atleast 1 item that makes or breaks the match
>>721302964>>721303073first anon is a retard, headshots build it faster.
>>721319845Placing sticky bombs on himself and waiting for their duration to expire a little bit
WHEREISHEYOSHI
>>721290247The right is so good damn better its unbelievable
>>721285862>1. You can spend currency on additional and special minions to send up the lane instead of on items.that's just legion td or enfos
>>721289025>>721316638>simps still simping for this whore
>>721316253I didn't like it originally but started playing again a couple weeks ago and am enjoying it now. not sure what changed.
The next character is a wholesome older woman who makes Lady Geist seethe because people like her and she’s fine with aging gracefully
>>721271783A stereotypical New York cabbie, with some occult aspect to his design
>>721321675I still to this day do not know how they got so far into Neon Prime before saying "Hey, maybe this neo noir occult setting might be better".
>>721322564Neon Prime was unironically the sweet baby game.
>mina players
>>721303243
>>721325176Drifter players are the most in character on average.Dynamo players are the least, they have zero fucking chill.
>>721325226I've had so many Billy players that are 1-to-1 fucking little shits
>>721285786>New patron model is also leaked, it sits in a throne.Care to show it?
>>721291708I'm 23.
>>721325395everytime I play billy I become billy I can't help it
So is THE LASH Jacob's real personality or a classic heel persona?
>>721291708I am 30 and i love this shit. It's like dota but i can understand what the fuck is going on, and i don't lose sight if my hero here.
>>721326375>zoomed in fish halo fov viewpoint of vertical teamfights>BUT I CAN SEE MORE THAN ISOMETRIC
So... Portugal and Denmark have a lot of monsters in the Deadlockverse? Grey Talon says a lot of baxter society skinless corpses end up there.
>>72129170832. I never played Gunz, but hearing people say that the movement is somewhat similar is pretty cool.
>>721326728What does he say? Never heard that before.
>>721326763https://youtu.be/jcaZmvzFH0M?t=422
>>721292546Anon, the it's dual lane. You can keep the enemy away while your partner is making you both rich.
>>721326792I hope that's not just "lmao quirky random country" but instead there's an actual reason why portugal or denmark.
>>721326881Could be an Astral gate thing or the Vampire courts have high numbers there.
>>721326881>>721326937Puerto Rico became the 51st US state because a hellgate opened there. So yeah Denmark and Portugal probably bave theirnown fucky dimensional rifts.
>>721285786thats a jungle creep
Is there any assets that are Neon Prime holdovers that you think should stay in the game? I'm so used to the current jungle creeps and mid boss that they have to be used in some way.
>>72129170834I've never played DOTA or LeagueI did play Aweseomnauts for a short while a long time ago and Deadlock reminds me a lot of that, just not in 2D.
>>721326937Another astral gate sounds too simple and lame. Vampire courts on the other hand sound very interesting
>>721276001>Mandalore gaming as the sekrit bossGod that's cringe. I regret buying it.
So what character would you like to see next?I'd like to see some italian-american character
>>721327278What the fuck is mid boss anyway?
>>72129170834 here, I really like mobas as an idea, but everything I've played either became stale, became incredibly dogshit or simply died. 3.5k hours in Dota 2, god knows how many hours in WC3 Dota, played league a bit (mostly at the beginning), played HoN when it cost money, still play HotS to this day (best isometric moba)I also love fast shooters like Titanfall, and now Valve of all companies are trying to marry the two? That instantly piqued my interest, and after playing the game for a bit I can't wait for its actual release. It really helps that I am into the art style and setting, the game has stellar voice acting, I love most of the characters, and it seems like the devs support a lot of player freedom in how you play/build heroes.
>>721289169So you're saying he's a punk?
>>721327278I unironically like the current Yamato model and will miss it when they replace it with a generic nip swordswoman
>>721272378How am I supposed to install the game when I see shit like this getting posted?
>>721289169trantifa goat
>>721291348the yay lmao grew on me I must admit. Warden needs more interaction or another design tho
>>72129170828Yeah I dunno what it is, but this shit is cash. Never really got into mobas but deadlock pushes all the right buttons for me.
>>721291708Turning 28 soon.I'm getting sick of every match being russian roulette with your teammates or theirs tbqf. It's just endless stomps in either direction, but usually against my team.
every hero uses the same purple itemsgood balance
How do I Lash?
>>721289169Intended: Whiny fucking loser who just seethes all the time, with a punk aestheticListen to the voice lines retard, everyone knows hes just posing
>McGinnis is the strongest splitpusher in the game and one of the hardest characters to 1v1>Kelvin has an absolutely cancer movement and fire rate slow on low cooldown even in lane with the ability to fly over teamfights in a safe spot and an ult that makes him a 1v1 menace or allows him to stall for time>Pocket has two get out of jail cards and can shit out ridiculous damage with barely any items
>>721289169Valve is making fun of tryhard anarchists. The design is intended.
>>721328968I don't. I play shit ton of Vyper and Ivy and go for mainly orange and green items.
>>721328130As I've brought up before, the Ayy lmao doesn't really fit Deadlock's new setting. I hope that whatever they choose they can marry the occult and east asian influence well for her.
>>721294828She was pretty shit her first week but is very strong right now
>>721328130Im pretty sure shes going to be part yokei, at least during her ult. If it makes you feel better some version of her current Ayy look will 100% be an early premium skin
>>721289169yes that's the point. Geist shits on him and paradox with PANACHE
>>721331540>It was a multi-million exhibition with the emotional depth of a 10th grader writing "I will rage against conformity" in a poetry unit of Remedial English. Jesus christ Geist, calm down.
>>721331592>Homer is also overwrought
>>721331592>we're friends!?!>no vicooseWhy must she be so cruel?!
>>721331664at least she agrees she got good smell. Am more surprised Haze loosens up around Visc. beebop french was horrendous bouregeois is male, shoulda be bouregeoise
>>721331664She likes the cube, that's something.
>>721331664For me it's Seven being "oh god it's talking". At least visc gets to wear Holiday's hat and Talon's bow
>>721331932>im viscous>I can see that..Maybe my favorite line outside of Lash and Vyper
>>721271783If they are not retarded, they will add a character who look like picrel.
>>721332005Seven in general is a delight. Mirage is also an unexpected surprise because he has no fear toward drifter
>>721332005For me, it's the line about apotheosis.
>>72129170831 playing with an ergo keyboard and mouse.I like dota 2 and titanfall 2, this game is a mish mash of both, plus I'm a sucker for unique art styles.
>>721332068That "No. I'll kill you" is delivered so fucking well.Also has a good exchange with Vyper.>You smell of cheap whisky and cheaper cigarettes>Keep talking like that and I'll lead you to a cheap motel.
>>721332147Yeah there's 0 arrogance here. Also he plays bowling. Ivy's va is also good when she's angry with vyper
>>721332208Ivy's hate towards Vyper is more personal since she killed for Mendoza
>>721332252>Vyper's disagreement isn't over the fact she killed for Mendoza, it's the fact the body count is actually way higher than 13.Love the girlfailure.
>>721332050Something like that is cmoser to what wardens final designnis going to be except hes going to have a massive cape
>>721272378At least they got the black negrees baldness right
>>721281151What compels a person to do this?
>>721326636I can see less, but i don't get counfused. Isometric visual makes my brain shut down for some reason. I can play stuff like ULTRAKILL and P rank everything in brutal, but i miss half the stuff in baldurs gate 3, because of the fucking isometric view makes me confused. There is definetly something wrong in my brain
I like they got a variety of wishes.>I want to help my friend's bar>I want to make sure my creator gets better>I want to achieve apotheosis>I am a bored elder god with nothing better to do.
>>721332412I would assume at this point its multiple people or a bot. Surely no one can monitor every Deadlock thread for close to a year now?
>>721291708zoomers wouldn't touch this shit
>>721327183Yes, that's probably just one of the creeps that can spawn on the roofs.
>>721332252That and vyper saying her sis works for Wraith. Lash Ivy vn when
>>721332670Perfectly legible UI and I don't know why people still keep trying to pretend otherwise
>>721331108I don't give a single fuck if people think it "fits the setting"She looks cool and uniqueShe is going to look okay and genericIt sucks
>>721333236Have some faith in valve's artists.They made a doorman, a background character in any movie or show, be a main character and a standout design.
>>721331664She's one of the characters canonically relying 100% on an outside, third party to even be able to fight at all (even mirage doesn't rely solely on his genie) so she has to compensate somehow
>>721333356We've literally already seen what they're turning Yamato into; a generic waifu.And Doorman is a pretty meh design too.Has by far the stupidest looking dash. Like they were supposed to be able to run instead, didn't do that, then left him with just the start of a run
>>721333487Waifu?Weren't they redesigning her into a yokai?Her kit makes no sense for a waifu.
>>721333671we are not sure if this will be her final design.from the new designs we only know how viscous and vyper will most likely turn out
>>721333671I knew the reply would be exactly this retarded take>No one fetishizes office uniforms>No one fetishizes edgy women>No one fetishizes sadako hairLike I said, generic waifu
>>721333710if you want to play an ugly character mo and krill is right there
>>721333709Sure I wasn't expecting this to be her final updated design, it's a sketch after all.I'm dreading the viscous redesign I really like his fish bowl.>>721333710Anon, are you retarded?They have to make her appealing, even drifter has a good looking face and he's a murder hobo.Giving her appealing traits is no the same as a generic waifu.
>>721333935viscous redesign looks good. him being a goo tourist is funny. besides currentl he is just a reskin of kelvin anyways
>>721332670Idiot. Just because there's a lot of visual effect on screen doesn't mean shit about the UI. There's barely any text to read on the right picture
>>721333935Sorry I'm not a slopslurper like you
>>721291708here 35 I hated the game with 4 lanes, the changes they made so far have made the game 100 times better.
>>721333874Dont talk about my boys like that you faggot.
>>721333710Generic is a strong word
New heroMedic TF2:Passively runs faster than normal, because medic TF2Melee is low damage, but if he hits your back, he does 5x damageFirst ability is the crossbow, which is a hitscan weapon that crits on headshots, like holidaySecondary lets him turn invisible, or, if used when about to be hit, makes you invisible with a speed boostThirdarary lets him throw out a tool which "saps" enemies, giving them silence and rootUlt lets him instantly explode himself for no damage, killing him with no revive time, effectively returning to spawn
>>721278593>No wonder the game is bleeding playersbecause the average fps players is too retarded for this game. Overwatch and Rivals are pathetic low skill compared to Deadlock.
>>721334585*Are too*Are pathetically low skilledAnd its not even a comparable skill set between those games.
>>721334696>And its not even a comparable skill set between those games.yes aiming is however, overwatch and rivals have zero movement mechanics or any deeper mechanics.
>>721334585the average player of trannylock is literally a BPD whore woman. What "skill" are you talking about you fucking shill nigger? enjoy your paygrade of absolutely nothing.
>>721334781>. What "skill" are you talking about you fucking shill nigger?deeper movement mechanics, knowing the map, knowing items, knowing heros. Hero shooters are literally the dumbest genre in shooters.
>>721278784Except bebop's ult is actually fair because he has the turning speed of a grandma using a walking stick so you can easily escape bebop's ult by just pressing A or DYou can't escape mina's ult by just pressing A or D.
>>721334907You literally can, there is cover everywhere.
>>721278872Retard takeShe was designed in a boardroom with Paige, all heroes are overpowered on release so that people play them
>>721335103>She's more oip than everyone released since her, even nowRetarded take.
>>721291708yeah, game is great and reminds me of my early days playing dota movement is fun, skill ceiling sky high and you can actually carry even as solo player in a 6v6 game unlike some shit games like overwatch
The actual problem with Mina is a bug where she need Spirit Burn and enough power to trigger it.All she has to do is ult a objective or the midboss and the burn explodes multiple times.I think it's because on heroes her passive usually has a cooldown for applying after the bite but that doesn't happen to non-players.
>>721335498Spirit Burn has no cooldown if it doesnt hit an enemy hero, its just that Minas ult has no 50% damage nerf that every other Spirit damage ult has vs objectives.
>>721333710Valve does like their stereotypes but Japans been pumping out Asian Women designs on mass for decades now there’s hardly anyway to be purely unique without one pre-existing Waifu out there looking similar, I kinda like the alien cockhead look, makes me wonder what happened in the Deadlock universe to make Japanese people look like that
>>721335498this is not bug, this is JUST how spirit burn has always worked.it's simply most noticable on mina because her ultimate is usually 100 or so instances of damage in the span of a few seconds, which paired with her current HP% damage per bat, constantly makes her deal 500 damage to reapply spirit burn.basically any character that has a good gun paired with mercurial magnum and a fuckton of spirit can produce a similar (but worse) version of this interaction, since they will be shooting out a fuckton of spirit damage instances really fast. vindicta comes to mind, especially because her 2 gives her even more spirit on-hit and she can layer the crow on for current HP% damage.
>~5 years ago valve was making a mixed VR/flat multiplayer game where the VR player would have a RTS overview>the patrons are giant floating heads and armshmmmmmm
>>721332445>Viscous wants to kill a Eldric entity that may devour the world>Paige can’t be bothered to hire a PI to find her brother
>out of all of the abandoned projects Valve had over the years this one managed to become a playable gamebetter be a blast at release or else pcbros might have a critical error in their program for the first time in years
>>721335782Also her ult scales over the with no listed cap for some reasonA mechanic I don't get the reason for adding
>>721335782>>721335954Oh that's how it works.There still needs to be some alteration because it can't be right that she get's to melt any objective like that. Teams don't even have a response time to it.
>>721291708I know a college “esports team” that can’t get into Deadlock to save their lives but seen them have almost aimbot level aim in most FPS games they play and it’s really funny watching them trip over their balls because they can’t be bothered to read item descriptions
>it's just a game bro ;)>don't get mad I fed the enemy carry on the other side of the map ;)
>>721335962They’re changing the Patrons to be giants embedded into spiky thrones if the leaks are anything to go by
>>721336020>implying they all get their wishes granted
>>721336106They’ve been working on Deadlock for some odd 8 years now and probably atleast another 2, I don’t think it’ll have gangbuster player counts but the games been fun so far, hopefully they don’t pull a Valve (again) and decide a full rework is in order (again)
>>721336328Doesn’t the leaked VN show that the patron followed through on *some* wishes?
>>721336106Reminder to thank uncle dane
>>721336106still leagues above other acclaimed studios like nintendo or fromsloft
>>721336106Realistically it'll be fairly dead.The alpha shouldn't have really existed and hasn't given the best impression with its incredibly questionable character designs, poor tutoritalization and iffy mechanicsThey can fix these things, but a great deal of people have already installed, tried then uninstalled the game
>>721336209>doing well on Blue>entire enemy team arrives>no ping>no callouts>Billy already has 6 kills
>>721336260I hope they add some actual lethality to them. The attack it has currently isn't threatening at all unless you deliberately stand still.
>>721336736>starts to push>blink one second>your mate left and drifter is suddenly on you
>>721336641Nah, Valve will have a whole banner and announcement for its launch day, people will come, that launch week will probably be the most fun it’ll be for years as everyone plays it like a shooter and you end up with 12 man brawls in a broom closet before the 3 minute mark
>>721336641>hasn't given the best impression with its incredibly questionable character designs, poor tutoritalization and iffy mechanicsLiterally the opposite of truthWhere do you guys come from
>>721336501The Patron in Geist's VN followed through precisely on every wish it was given to the letter, no more no less. No monkey paw bullshit, but it did EXACTLY what was asked and nothing else>Abrams asked it a question about his tome; the Patron answered truthfully then told him to fuck off and word his questions better when he tried to ask another one>Geist asked it to repair the tome and bind Oathkeeper to it; it did>Geist asked it to use her son's life as a sacrifice in exchange for Oathkeeper's unwavering servitude for 200 years; after checking that the terms were agreeable with Oathkeeper, it did so>Geist asked it to use her life as a sacrifice to banish Oathkeeper from Earth forever; it did>Geist asked it to dissolve the contract between her and Oathkeeper and enforce a NAP between them; it did so
>>721336143it's simply too gimmicky. it's not actually -that- strong of a benefit, seeing as she continues to relatively mediocre at best showing in low ranks all the way to tournament play.however, the truth is, you really can't buff her much more than this. you can't have a hero that is this gimmicked into instantly killing objectives but is also actually good at other shit. it does have to go, but she'll need some meaty compensation buffs to pair with it. i don't think the spirit burn interaction needs to be changed, either; it's a pretty core interaction for spirit-gun characters that they're allowed to proc it repeatedly in PvE. the elegant solution would be to erase her current HP% damage on objectives. they already did it to vindicta a long ass time ago.
>>721272378>valve character designlmao
Paiges brother and the troubadour obviously going to be future heroes but what's the chances their the same guy? Perhaps dabbling in dark magics sent the little feller over the edge.
>>721271783>enjoy your sad life [racial slur directed at black people]Doorman would never say that.
>>721337189I think he might.
>>721337189Yes, he use nigros instead of nigger
I fucking love playing Yamato bros...
>>721336531i wonder if he's perma seething nowadaysDeserved honestly since TF2 is a retirement home nowadays.
>>721333671They're going to make Yamato super pretty lmao. They see how much people loved Mina.If they need to make her ugly then it'll only happen during her ult.
>it's another paradox hitting you for 800 damage from across the map game
>>721336896Reality.You think bald black literal cat lady, 30 year old russian who talks like a 12 year old, whiny goat, 15 mile long forehead, literally just a blob with a stupid voice, butch lesbo engineer (who only has a single skil lthat's not actually magic) or Wukong if he was a greaser are going to make people rush to play this game that already isn't doing well with its player count? They're going to magically all think these shit designs are cool because you do? You're the minority. That's reality.
>>721337615good news there is a single T4 item that will completely erase all 30k of her souls invested in being able to do that
>playing krill>enemy buys debuff remover and spellbreaker
>>721306620you bitch in team chat that there isn't a surrender option despite Deadlock being more snowball than any other ASSFAGGOTS
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE LEAKS
>>721337673Half the designs aren't even finished and are neon prime leftovers and you're shitting your pants on even the new good ones. Billy has a amazing design you're just a flavourless pleb>literally just a blob with a stupid voiceYesHe balances quite nicely actually since he's a good guy with perfect intentions. A nice palette cleanser to the rough and harsh reality that makes every NYC fag a shitty person.Every opinion of yours is wrong. So congrats I guess
>>721337673>literally just a blob with a stupid voiceYou did NOT just insult Viscous.
>>721337961>Half the desi- holy low IQ batmanGoddamn bro, think before you post>The alpha (which is now)>Shouldn't have (past tense)What they look like on release doesn't matter to the people who already tried this, saw Yamato's forehead take up the entire map and uninstalled
>>721338060Getting players who already quit back is always harder than getting new players you dunce, of course they're gonna be going for new people entirely especially considering you still need an invite to even play atm. The people who already gave up on the game don't fucking matter to Valve, odds are they're never playing again.
>>721275857i'd like some combo/devil may cry spin character league of legends has one
>>721337673>"its not like my gacha games so its going to be unpopular"delusional
>>721294085when exactly does the laning phase end, when you take the first guardian? noob moba player here.
>>721337673>30 year old russian who talks like a 12 year oldI'm trying hard to think of who you're actually referring to with this. Victor?
>>721338484It's something you feel rather than something you seeIt's when people are no longer sticking to the lanes and have dissolved to go to the jungle or to other lanes. One or even both Guardians can still be alive for this to start happening, especially if heroes from other lanes start spilling into yours
>>721338452>StrawmanI've only played about 5 minutes of genshin one time and I dropped it when the first enemy did like 5 damage>>721338583Lash
>>721275857We already have dash/wall jump movement, a robot with a hook, and tossed projectiles you shoot
>>721271783what kinda of microtransactions will this game have?
>>721339083*kind of
>>721339083vindicta feet picsmina bathwater
>>721338989>LashWhat on earth made you think he's meant to be r*ssian?
>>721339083Hats. Assload of hats.
>>721339083momo dakimura
>>721339237bet hes some retarded russki himself
>>721338484In this game around 8 minute mark
>>721339237>hated by everyone>rivalry with drones>HIV positiveI could see it.
Why Mina's ult silences and procs her passive and sclaes infinitely
if i dont get victor i just afk in baseaint dealing with this retarded "pick 3 dudes" systemmost people wont, its gonna kill the gameshit like this is what killed ow, a much bigger game and its system wasn't nearly this restrictive
>>721339570really sucks they took a break from releasing balance patches so she's left in this fucked stateit also sucks that a bunch of shitters play her so her win rate is artificially low
>>721338989He's 100% American. His bio confirms it.
>>721339548>rivalry with droneskek
hes literallhy just braum with less roids
>>72129170830.Fun heroes and great skill ceiling. I mostly enjoy frustrating russians with vortex web + echo shard luggage cart on Doorman.>>721339657>her win rate is artificially lowThat's always the case with glass cannon characters. Once they balance out her ult, she'll be fine. Anyone with functioning brain cells knows to buy Spellbreaker in the late game to stop her passive from one-shotting you.
>>721271783are souls still shared after 8 mins or was that patched out, can't find info on it.
>>721339083At minimum, cosmetics. The 2024 christmas event is pretty much a confirmation that you can change what heroes wear.On that topic, Yoshi if you're reading first, what the fuck are you doing here, and second, Ivy in a maid outfit is too lucrative an idea to pass up - would fit as being a job she's trying out, whilst also feeding the ivygooners.
>>721331664>that call out to Yamato for speaking Japanese around everyone all the timeMan if a frenchy has to tell you to stop something like that you’ve really gone too far
I stopped playing because losing in this game feels horrible.For some reason I don't feel anything when losing in other games, whenever you win or lose you can have some fun.But suffering 30 minutes of this game when your teammates feeding 0:10, or refusing to participate in teamfights and non-stop farming, is just not fun. And it keeps happening again and again. I would rather play something else instead.
>>721342049i just take the time to look at my teammate's builds and laugh at them while we're all dead and waiting for them to kill our base during our 60s respawn timers.
>>721342205Yeah at some point you can only laugh at stupid decision making once it’s all over
>>721342049Its because of how long the games last if one side doesn't just stomp the other, which rarely happens since the game explains itself so poorly most people don't actually know how to playAt some point you'll have every slot full of seemingly the best items and nothing to do but hope your team actually waits for respawns before diving the enemy base and not run in solo and die again
being in pisslow elo is hell. no matter how good you do, your team will always make sure to feed the carry or never capitlize on you
>>721272378why are you posting haze next to calico when wraith is there
>>721344887if you cant outplay retards then maybe you should stay there
>>721305746>>721289705Not this retard your fighting with.Sick they really need better girls in this game, gald they see that. Mina is a good start but some characters are just ugly. They should add a NY winter map for this game, or seasons. We have all 4. (For better or worse)
>>721342049It was way worse last year, its far better now. People just grab rejuv and go end, they dont farm for 30 minutes before finding the courage to push base.
Post this disgusting vile creature
>>721342049Yeah the aesthetic is there for sure buy since its still a beta they really need all the modes of play. Maybe even a shorter game mode. They could add that one mode from league were its one lane too.
Tank builds don't feel very tanky in thisAlso mina ult should not silence
>>721336913>Abrams tripped over his balls at the finish lineThat’s really funny, guy got lucky enough to meet a non-monkey paw wish granter and even fought for the right and he stumbled over his own words
>>721336913Damn Geist really made good on her one wish but I thought she liked her family? She brags about her sons career I’m surprised she threw him under the bus so completely
>>721291708Im old, I Think moslty old heads are playing this rn, its a bit more complicated and you gotta go through steam forms to get a key. You need basic speech skills, I gave all my bros a key after I think a dev gave me a key.
>>721336913>The Patron is actually pretty fair Abrams is just retardedHuhTo be fair I never got the impression he solved cases with actual smarts... if anything he probably just bulldozes through everything with a bit of brutal cunning here and there when needed.>>721346242There's a difference between loving your family and dying for it and I guess for Geist she's willing to do anything. ANYTHING.
>>721336743>try to shoot wheelchair patron>bunch of spikes shoot youwould be broken if it pinned you to the ground like Paiges ability?
>>721337562The TF2 community is loyal, and the prick is probably making hand over fist between patron and server donations, if anything he’s probably less on Valves shitlist than Tyler Mcnigger
Geist hasn't dealt with the oathkeeper, she's dealing with it now because she's a pathetic loser with no abilities of her own
>>721346590She has the ability to be a sexy hag, and that trumps most of the other abilities
>>721346670That's literally the exact deal she made with the oathkeeper.Her looks are from it.All her powers are side effects.
>>721346242She's a mercurial motherfucker.There is clearly some love you can see in the good ending where she asks the Patron to dissolve the contract for her, where she casually gives him a fortune when she's leaving the country. But at the same time, she casually threatens him to his face early on in the story ("Pity. I don't maintain relationships with useless people.") and abuses her access to him to get a list of his medical clients. He definitely respects her but also fears her - he's nervous and not sure if she's joking when he threatens him, but he also tries hard to get her good advice seemingly out of good faith.I surmise they both keep each other at a professional distance, despite being family. He knows how Oathkeeper works, but wants to pretend nothing's amiss as long as he can, so it's likely they just don't talk much and are fairly distant with each other. That'd make it pretty easy for her to sacrifice him, just like she does anyone else who's not useful to her.
>>721346402>Giest tries to kill Bebops mom on a whim>He pops the one thing controlling OathKeepershe might be more opportunistic than thinking desu, yeah she clearly thought out her wish but she was forced to wait for that so she probably had a nice little list forming in her head
>>721336913>>721346242>>721346402I believe that’s her grandson she sacrifices. Her son created the ward that bound oathkeeper, he’s been dead a while and she speaks fondly of him. She seems quite disconnected from her grandson—even threatening in her first interaction and going after one of his patients She’s just a naughty little treat like that
>>721345552how do I outplay a fed haze or infernus which shreds me in two seconds even if I buy knockdown?
>>721346885Spirit protection and the Buddy system, a lot of people underestimate the value of a second person there
>>721346670Specically she looks like this.She feels very out of place where everyone else is some whacky mary sue with super powers and Mina literally just paid to be an immortal vampire with seemingly no downsides.Every aspect of her character is cucked by the oathkeeper.Its the reason she has a magic arm (dunno what happened to the old one), its the source of all her powers and even her melee, its like 90% of her dialogue (even though the thing is apparently pretty weak and would die almost instantly outside of a body), etc.Really doesn't fit to take this thing so seriously and then on the other hand be like>lol whacky blob XD>This guys is a GOAT>AND A SNAKE>XDDDD
>>721346985and let me guess debuff remover alongside a retard and something which doesn't negate most of the dmg and does nothing against bullet dmg sprinkled in
>>72129170834, I just want a moba that isn't a) deadb) infested with rootkit malwarec) feels more modern than dotadeadlock fits all of those
>>721347009There’s definitely some form of power creep in the newer heroes. Before seven and Geist were the big dogs and even they barely graduate from being just criminals who are evading a downfall (currently). Even supernatural power creep in someways: take kelvin to Victor (or Geist already being a pseudo vampire and then they just add vampires)Now there’s drifter, some ancient evil monster man, and doorman, a literal god.
>>721347009Valve wanted as much variety as possible for their moba so some designs/characters are gonna feel out of place but I’d say a universe where magic is intertwined with normal reality you can do practically anything with the concept, Viscous might be a silly little guy but he’s there for a serious reason and even going against his nature to fight for it
>>721347009>Mina literally just paid to be an immortal vampire with seemingly no downsides.We don't know thatFor all we know this be a VTM thing where being a vampire turns you immortal but at the cost of your humanityMina/Drifter are already pretty clear cut examples of losing your self. Mina's might seem less extreme but that could be due to her being a vampire for a small amount of time.Shiv seems desperate to cling to his humanity and for all we know could be one bad day away from being hunted by his fellow baxter society comrades.
>>721346885Disarming Hex instead of KnockdownMetal Skin if the movement speed reduction won't hinder you too muchBullet/Spirit Resilience as appropriatePlated Armor if possibleJuggernaut and other fire rate slows can drastically reduce their damage if they don't have UnstoppableEthereal Shift if your team is mostly playing with you and you just need to live for a second or two longer while they distract her
>>721347032Man if you’re just gonna come up with new scenarios with every reply of course there’s no actual answer, it’s a per game basis, build around them, even if it feels gross, if you notice one guy is pretty much carrying you’ll have to find a way to completely shut them down
>>721346849From what we can tell is dialogue, she was married to Johann Senior. He died.She has a son, Johann Junior, friends with Infernus (one of the only characters she seems to mutually like), he's alive.So she must have sacrificed grandson or someone else.>>721347189>>721347256Its just a shame more aren't like her. She could even get an arc where she truly conquers the stupid parasite or figures out whatever magic others use to do the same shit on her own power. Her having actual flaws that aren't parodies like Billy (real name william btw) or the stupid gloop monster or generic ice guy with an ice gun and ice powers from ice land where there is ice makes her by far the most interesting hcaracter, which they've already leaned into by giving her her own VN.
>>721346849>>721347408Yeah it's her grandson, not her son, I misspoke
Some of the writing also just doesn't make sense, like geist telling kelvin he has "no idea what he's talking about" when he says she'll get him when she's older.She's.... literally his patron (non-magical) and explicitly super famous. Her being youngified would be common knowledge. How would he not know that? he was only out of the picture for 1 year.
>>721347408We don’t know if they’ll even keep the VN aspect still, or who will even get their own (an entire mini game each for 30+ characters would be a ridiculous amount of effort) but you’re not giving the others a chance, Giest is incredibly fleshed out, of course she’s way above the others
>>721347376most of these cost 6400, game is usually over before I can buy two of them. Since the jungle is cleaned
>>721291708Literally just hit 29.It scratches the Dota itch and also lets me play with my friends who like shooters
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>>721347601Which characters do you think would be the best for a VN?Already confirmed>Giest>HolidayBut I want some real motherfuckers>Shiv>Billy>Warden>Seven
>>721346402>probably just bulldozes through everything with a bit of brutal cunning here and there when neededYeah that sounds right, he’s meant to be a Hellboy version of a 1920s pulp detective and those guys usually bumbled through their cases only for some fem fatale or some other Deus Ex Machina to fall into their lap that solves the case at the end
>>721347894Viscous has alot going on but we hardly hear about it outside of some interactions, would be nice to see
>>721330289>dive in>press all abilities + actives>kill everything>refuse to elaborate>leave
Characters I want to see fleshed out or playable:Geists dead husband (she's supposed have a 'necromantic pact', not a 'throw balls at people and succ them' pact, revive he and have him be disappointed in her)Geists doctor son (seems like a nice guy)Nashala (she's actually already playable, but only because Mirage uses her in the same way Geist uses her arm; he mentions she can leave the vessle and fight on her own if she wants) Da Troubador (have him actually be scary in the way Drifter seems really desperate to be, or her, or it)Shelly and Marla (as a duo that switch with their ult, shelly throws gears and marla throws pies and their special power is dying of a heart attack)
>>721348001Yeah Viscous would be perfect, just for the lore dumps of the deep and whatever else. Also I think the upcoming Priest could be cool too. I want to see how religion has adapted to the astral gates and the supernatural in general. Would they embrace it? Just fun ideas like that.
>>721347686Disarming Hex, Metal Skin, Bullet/Spirit Resilience are all 3.2k.The 6.4k items' advantages are in either having stronger, longer effects or being passive, but the 3.2k can still do the job fine. Just pick the most appropriate of them based on how you're dying and what they have>they don't have Unstoppable and you're pretty sure they're too dumb to get itDisarming Hex>they do have Unstoppableprobably Metal Skin>you're getting stunlocked or cursed so you can't pop an activeBullet/Spirit Resilience, or save up for either Plated Armor (if they'll get Unstoppable or already have it) or Juggernaut (if they don't/won't)>before I can buy two of them.Don't buy two 6.4k's just to shut down one person unless you're playing a tankoid like Victor or Krill. Maaaaybe a 6.4k+3.2k, but not two 6.4k's.You're thinking the right thoughts by itemizing to counter in the first place, sure, but you have to actually buy your own shit too.
>>721332670>is that....>.....information on MY SCREEN?>reeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>721347601She's inherently superior just on design by being one of the only people in this setting full of apparently dangerous magic and reality warping deity like beings to be paying a cost for her abilities instead of the explanation being>That race can just do that>Someone built them, its inherent to their design>They're just THAT GOOD>Magic is easy bro>XD quriky door man of doors XDDDD
>>721347337I hope they expand the biological lore of being a vampire in this universe. Mina literally fangirls about Geist. I suppose there’s something about being a vampire that is somewhat inferior to Geist’s arrangement, perhaps blending into society—there seems to be a reason why vampire high society is so insular. It would be funny is 99% of vampires barely live longer than 100 years just from various factors that make their lives perilous: sunlight, being hunted, needing to suck blood>>721347542This is speculation from various dialogues but it does seem like Geist’s atrocities is only recently becoming common knowledge, as both talon and haze warn her about being in the radar for being put down but the Baxter society just don’t know the extent of her inhumanity and the OSIC are literally breathing down her neck. It’s likely her time spent in society paired with Oathkeeper’s greater appetite have accelerating things.People have likely suspected something was up with Geist but from the VN it seems most people don’t know how old she truly was. And even Holliday, who is investigating people like her doesn’t exactly know what she’s up too only that she is a monster of some kind. A lot of characters underestimate Geist and seem unaware that she’s a cold blooded serial killer. A lot of criminals just think she’s just some rich lady. But another states (I think talon) that her partaking in this death game is proof of her pure desperation.So in this universe it seems there’s rumours about the ageless socialite but only people in the know are aware of the darker aspect. And even fewer know the extent. But as she has to kill more and more people and more time passes “those in the know” increases. In some waysSo it wouldn’t surprise me if Kelvin, who, while friends with Geist is too wrapped up in his own adventures and wealth to notice things, and his recent absence hid her increased depravity.
>>721348783>>This is speculation from various dialogues but it does seem like Geist’s atrocities is only recently becoming common knowledge, as both talon and haze warn her about being in the radar for being put down but the Baxter society just don’t know the extent of her inhumanity and the OSIC are literally breathing down her neck. It’s likely her time spent in society paired with Oathkeeper’s greater appetite have accelerating things.Not my point.>>721347009She looked like the left, then she looked like the right and kept attending parties.Therefore, its common knowledge she aged in reverse.Its also common knowledge how long she has been in high society; her entire family is famous, seemingly because of her.There's no logical reason he wouldn't know how long she has been around at all, her faults are completely seperate from that
>>721348231I'll try but I don't see the point if I don't deal any dmg. yeah I'll stop them but I'll still get molested afterward
>>721295048>Carhop would be cool>Others in the thread wanting SMNC-esque contentAre we in the Megabeth rebirth era
>Had fun with character X>Want to try a slightly different build>66% chance I don't get them, then sit through a 20-40+ min game as someone I don't actually want to play throughProbably the biggest thing they need to look at or have this actually be dead on arrival.This kind of thing nearly killed OW
>>721348951Geist faded from the spotlight and people basically forgot about her until she entered the scene again. And most people who knew her back then were dead or equally irrelevant. Now she’s been the belle of the ball for nearly 40 years. Not hard to imagine how she could fabricate ways to blend inGo to a new place, a different crowd. Hell, maybe she moved to New York for that fresh start. >not my pointKelvin doesn’t know how old Geist is because he doesn’t know her very well
>>721349424It actually is hard to imagine that in a world where you can literally buy immortality fairly easily, when she specifically interacted with the richest people around
>>721349010>I'll try but I don't see the point if I don't deal any dmg.Ye that's why you still need to make your own purchases. If you can't threaten them back or at least escape to your team, they will just wait your shit out then punish you anyway. Another thing to try if they buy Unstoppable may be to combo Metal Skin + Disarming Hex, one after another. You might Metal Skin through their Unstoppable, break LoS, then Disarm them once it wears off. It's cheaper compared to the alternatives and might buy you more time, like 8 seconds or more depending on how well you space it. If they're dangerously fed and ahead of all their teammates, it may pay to kill the rest of the enemy team instead. Use your defensives if he goes on you and just ignore the guy. If you can kill the rest of his team and leave him alive alone, he usually won't be able to do much anyway so he might as well be dead.
>This will make people play our game
>>721348783Doesn't her infatuation with Geist have more to do with her fashion background and dayjob?
>>721350047whomshe didnt say anyone is infatuated with geist
Where can you look at all this dev art and updates?
>>721316253Not much has changed but generally it's mostly people that like a game that post in 'em. I still think Deadlock has a long way to go before it's actually fun, too much of it is still essentially rage-inducing.>respawn timers are timer-based instead of soul-based so the 10/0/3 Haze that your entire team spent 20 seconds ganking has as long of a respawn timer as your 1/7/5 Grey Talon despite the former having 1.7x the amount of souls that the latter has>rejuvenators buffed so that it's basically a free revive and generally a game-winner on its own for whichever team gets it because... reasons>soul orb popping because there isn't enough tryharding in lane and the opponents will get a clear advantage unless you also engage with this mechanic
>Yamato runs at us>Retard screans>I swap hp and she dies basically instantly>She respawns>Retard screams>Gets CC'd and dies >She respawns...>Retard screams...I don't even know what that shit does, but I guess she's who all the Master Yi braindead players chose to play in this, they just do the same shit every time
>>721350010What the hell is this?
>>721349498Maybe people aren’t assuming she was nearly 80 when she received her immortality. Maybe it’s all this magic shit that lets people brush of Geist’s youthfulness as not being a Faustian bargain>wow I’ve know Geist for nearly 15 years, she hasn’t aged a day>maybe her moisturiser is made of mermaid tears or something idkAlso crowds change those around her rotate in and out making it a little harder for people to corroborate on the facts. It also seems that Geist, at least recently, isn’t that social given some dialogue she has.>>721350047Well Mina’s primary discontent is how vampires all keep to themselves and there’s no “Viscount of Newyork” in a real sense so she admires Geist who manages to maintain a high standing in society despite her vampiric life style. The fact she can suck someone’s soul out for lunch and mix at the Met after dinner is exactly who she wants to be—powerful and fabulous
>>721350481Also>Tutorial doesn't explain the green snake things at all>There's a miniboss, no one cares, because its also not explained(no, them being listed in the shitty video tutorials doesn't count, no one is watching that shit, it should be in the playable tutorials)>Can't actually practice a hero, variety of builds, etc, because you HAVE TO enable 3 characters>If you like a specific archetype, like "pull guy" or "cc spammer", you probably only have 1 or 2 dudes to pick who don't need to use ult to do the thing you like to do, so the best option is to... go play Dota 2 instead, where this isn't an issue>Reload time is slow as fuck outside of one item, but you specifically shoot orbs to break them. Very awkward on anyone with a small ammo pool. Whic his a lot of the cast.Moist of the time what happens is one team reaches enemy patron, nearly kills it, gets whiped because the enemy team can fully heal at 0 risk in their giant spawn with 6 different exits you need to try and keep an eye on (that's a huge issue on its own), then team 2 goes to the enemy patron and kills it before anyone can respawn because respawn time gets so insanely long
>>721350567https://deadlock.wiki/Cadence#Upcoming hero
>>72129170835, still just looking for a game that is Dota 2 but better.
>>721282923a second bomb has hit the patron
>>721350895Also a really good example of the in-universe power creep.Geist took a parasite onto her arm to compete with... a fat chick with a good voice
>>721350895>he doesn’t knowCadence has been redesigned to be a giant demon mommy
>>721351051Its literally on the page I linked, I just wanted to mock their shitty placeholder models, like yamato's forehead
>>721289552Acting as though a yakuza goon dragon lady wouldn't fit in an urban-fantasy-noir setting like Deadlock. Shit, you could adjust her to be triad and you have Chinatown rep, it fits better than the ayy shit we have now.
>>721291450Its pretty much MOBA darkstalkers of paranormal shit beating the fuck out of each other. An Ayylmao fits this game like a fucking glove and way more than a chink bitch.
>>721350567Datamined model from Neon Prime for Cadence. Her recycled version is a character in Ivy's VN, and pic related is concept art of her (she even has a song in the files https://files.catbox.moe/gh8zam.mp3). Might be a playable hero someday, another Ixian.
Why is he called the Doorman when he's clearly a bellhop?
>>721350512Her ultimate used to make her unkillable IIRC so maybe that's still a thing people expect from her
>>721351742Why is he called Billy when he's clearly a goat?
>>721271783I love playing Seven and ultmaxxing, turning the entire team fight area into a storm with duration extender and mystic expansion
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