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Just replayed STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl (original, not enhanced) with mods. Why does it still mog the fuck out of stalker 2 despite being almost 2 decades years old?
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>>721283947
>>>/vr/
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No, it doesn't. It's ugly as fuck, full of loading times. Horrible to a tee.
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>>721283947
What's wrong with enhanced? Genuinely asking
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>>721283947
Because it wasn't made as a cheap cashgrab.
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>>721284674
They censored EVERYTHING Soviet, including the posters in the bar, the monument to the Chernobyl Nuclear Energy Plant right outside the sarcophagus, the mural on the wall in the military base and the statues in Pripyat, which is pretty dumb for a game set in Chernobyl.

There's also MSAA which makes everything super blurry, and they added a workshop but you're not allowed to upload mods that actually change anything such as weapons because it's against the EULA or something.
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>>721285008
Well that's gay. Does the original version need any tweaking to get running on modern systems?
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>>721285206
Shadow of Chernobyl will run just fine on Windows 10 most of the time, but I'd recommend you install the Zone Reclamation Project (you can find it on metacognix) as it fixes a lot of bugs and performance issues.
Call of Pripyat doesn't need any patches or bugfixes at all, Clear Sky is broken in many different ways and needs the Sky Reclamation Project patch installed or you'll get softlocked and experience constant crashes. There's also some balance changes and optional plugins I'd recommend you install that come bundled with the Sky Reclamation Project (that fix misaligned ironsights, among other things)
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>>721284674
it's a console port of a pc port
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>>721283947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3fj8TOrPt8
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>>721286124
Wassat? Radiophobia?
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>>721286284
OLR 2.5
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>>721286594
Oh yeah, I remember OLR had really nice lighting.
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>>721286889
The labs in particular look amazing
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When is openxray gunslinger coming out
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>>721287000
How come no other of the XRay engine versions have as nice lighting. Pretty sure I still have this somewhere on my PC, maybe I should pick it up again.
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>>721287174
It uses some super ancient build renderer.
The modder who put this together downgraded it in 3.0 because of performance or something.
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>>721287142
Never. Pretty sure openxray is dead in the water as well
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>>721287356
Based on what?
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>>721283947
>Why does it still mog the fuck out of stalker 2 despite being almost 2 decades years old?
Because the S2 is literal consolitiz-UE5 slop, made by woke fags for the Far Cry 3 audiences.

>>721285008
>There's also MSAA which makes everything super blurry,
Wrong. MSAA would be sharp as fuck, as it renders polygonal edges at higher res.

You are thinking about TAA or FXAA, the post-processing shit.

>>721285206
Dude, they are literal DX9 to 11 PC exclusives. Unless Wee11 is so irredeemable that it's blocking Windows 7 era games already, there really ain't any issues playing them.

You may want to look up the "Starter Pack" mods to make the experience a bit smoother. Pic related.
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>>721286284
Yeah, OLR 2.5. It's like the gold standard for grognard SoC autists who want 1:1 restoration of cut content and early demo builds. Lighting is way moodier than most other mods, and the atmosphere feels oppressive as hell, especially in the underground labs. If you vibed with the E3 builds back in 2003-04, this is the closest you’re gonna get.
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>>721283947
Because modern devs cant into game development.
Not that Stalker was ever good, it's a clunky RPG shooter full of bugs with a community of modders who, despite having the devkit, they've only made mods to make the game an insufferable slog.

At least Fallout's modding community does fun stuff.
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>>721286594
>>721286284
>>721286889
>>721287654
this reminds me, I played stalker way back when with a mod called "Rebalanced" or something.
I remember it was quite nice. Anybody know what I'm talking about? How does it rank up?
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>>721287654
>made by woke fags for the Far Cry 3 audiences.
I've seen numerous redditors cope and seethe every time I mentioned Stalker 2 is literally Far Cry Chernobyl Edition
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>>721288525
Stalker as a whole wishes it was at the level of Far Cry 2.
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>>721287654
You're right I was thinking of MLAA
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>>721288448
never heard of such a mod
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>>721285008
>They censored EVERYTHING Soviet
not even that but they "removed" the russian language despite it being the language that the game was developed in and released with. enemy callouts, NPC banter, dialogues are still in russian yet they still like to pretend that the language is completely absent. makes me kek
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>>721286594
>>721286889
Redpill me on OLR
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>>721283947
Stalker is just Metro's ugly, unpopular and asmathic cousin.
No idea why people even bother with them, Stalker games are buggy, underbaked and have the production values of a Skyrim mod.
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>>721285008
No problem with that, all commie shit should be wiped out from all media, and communists should be beaten to death, it's the system of the weak and of the trannies.
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>>721288697
Grigo spent the original STALKER devs' paycheck on a new car so it wouldn't surprise me if that grifting faggot is responsible for the censorship to garner sympathy.
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>>721288690
I remember it had moody, harsh shadows and lighting and some rebalances.
>>721288697
wait till you see what they are doing with ukranian language to pretend they are somehow different.
The level of rewritting history and everything to pretend ukraine is something completely different from soviet union is funny.
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>>721288615
>wishes it was at the level of Far Cry 2.
In would say both FC2 and STALKER are as IMSIM as you can get an FPS game. FC3 is vastly inferior to both.
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>>721288960
>grift
American detected
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>>721288690
I think I found it
https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-rebalanced/downloads
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>>721288763
It's trying to recreate the old version of the game hat was called oblivion lost and had a ton of content that was cut and ideas that weren't fully implemented. It's like a whole different game comapred to SoC with never seen before maps or early version of known maps.
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>>721289074
Stalker has literally no sim aspects.
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>>721289171
Always loved the sky boxes in this game
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>>721288985
Don't pretend you can even speak Russian or Ukranian, you are just the typical Amerimutt who only cares about that war because you absorbed it into your culture war.
99% of people who talk about the Ukraine war couldn't point where Ukraine or Russia were on a map before 2022.

You fags are the geopolitical equivalent of a poser.
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>>721289397
stop coping ukie. You aren't a real nation, you are literally a small fraction that splintered off and are rewriting history like mad and lying to yourself and others about who you are.
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Are there any good mods like OGSR that extend the original story and add new areas for Clear Skies or Call of Pripyat?
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>>721288960
Griga is barely involved with stalker 2, if anything he's too busy giving interviews and pretending he's the greatest patriot by giving 0.01% of his money to the army
>>721288985
>wait till you see what they are doing with ukranian language to pretend they are somehow different.
Elaborate on this, please. I played Stalker 2 with ukrainian dubs and could barely understand anything despite regularly watching ukrainian TV a decade or so ago. It's strange to me that they seem to be pushing for oxford ukrainian despite 70% of the country speaking either surzhik or a regional mixmash of russian and ukrainian. Even in the azov pro-war propaganda vids, people still mix up russian and ukrainain all the time.
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>>721289763
>Elaborate on this, please.
Replace every G with a H and you get their retarded attempt at being different.
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>>721289171
I remember the release of OLR 3.0 a year ago and people said it was dogshit to play. Not every idea from the builds was worth reimplementing.
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>>721289518
No eastern European nations are legitimate because they are occupied by slavs, which are asian and turkish mongrels, those lands belong to whites.
Specifically, Europe goes from Portugal to the Ripheal mountains, called Ural by the slavic occupier.

Which is why I insist that the only tragedy in the Ukraine war would be that for it to end, right now it's just enemies killing each other.
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>>721289763
Reason is the first casualty of war, and it also makes the Russians unreasonably butthurt so it's only natural that they would try to stand out by removing as many Russian aspects from their language as possible.
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>>721289172
>>>literally no sim aspects.
>NPCs react to the world
>missions have branching paths
>gameplay has somewhat of a sandbox despite being heavily linear
yeah, right. No SIM asppects whatsoever.
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>>721290183
Those aspects dont simulate anything.
The closest STALKER has ever been to being a sim is AREA.
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>>721290132
>and it also makes the Russians unreasonably butthurt so it's only natural that they would try to stand out by removing as many Russian aspects from their language as possible.
ah yes, the russian thing, being honest. Ah yes, lying is so anti russian, we should all do it to make russians butthurt.
This is the logic somebody deep in copium actually believes, when they put out flat out lies as propaganda and rewriting history.

The irony that anybody with a soul is looking at this act and is disgusted by it simply out of principle of truth and honesty is beyond them of course.
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>>721290435
Damn, propaganda during wartime? How dare they.
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>>721290534
>WOAH It's my god given right to lie, not only to the enemy, but to myself, my people, and everybody else in the world
DISGUSTING! behavior.
I don't expect you to understand, you are clearly a soulless person with no moral core.
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>>721290435
Anybody with a soul is watching that war while eating popcorn, fucking no one cares about Ukranians, or Russians, the shitholes they both claim or what they insist is a "culture".
The only legacy of these countries is that time they were so fucking stupid they made a chunk of their own land uninhabitable to human life for the next 20.000 years.
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>>721290791
>Anybody with a soul is watching that war while eating popcorn,
shut it, you already proved you are a souless faggot who doesn't even care about truth and honesty. I expect you to have NO standards after that, as it all will be fill with delusions and broken logic.
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>>721290435
I know enough Russian to know Russian and Ukrainian are not the same language, and every time it's brought up a Russian or someone who drank the pro-Russian kool aid will blow a gasket trying to convince everyone that Ukrainians are just Russians who got confused by evil CIA Obama mind control in 2014 and if they just stop fighting back like the dirty fascists they are and submit then all will be well and people can stop dying )))
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>>721290384
>AREA
oh god, an other analmeme player shitting his trash opinion once again...
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>>721290625
And you are one of those fags who thinks lying is worse than killing, likely someone who's moral compass is some kid cartoon character like Optimus Prime.

Welcome to real life.
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>>721290132
>makes the Russians unreasonably butthurt
I'm sure they don't even care since a good portion of the western world still speaks russian to some extent. There's 40 milions ukrainians, give or take. Let's be generous and say that 20 million are "native" speakers. Russian still has a quarter million "official" speakers. They got the better numbers, statistically speaking.
>>721290435
>looking at this act and is disgusted by it simply out of principle of truth
nah, people don't give a shit. Ask anyone in eueope or the US and they wopn't be able to differentiate a russian from a ukrainian. Well maybe the ukrainian will ask for gibs while the russian is gonna do the same while being an asshole.
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>>721290904
The truth is that Ukraine and Russia could be nuked tomorrow and the world's reaction would be "Damn, that's rough" and go on as usual.
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so, now that the thread has successfully been derailed I guess no one will notice that I actually kind of like Clear Skies
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>>721290925
>Oh I'm so nuanced, I'm okay with lying for my own gain, that makes me mature
as I said, souless, with no moral compass.
There is no point in talking to you.
>>721291003
>nah, people don't give a shit.
Yes? Majority of people are the same souless mass of flesh, doesn't matter if they are russian, ukranian, american, they are all the same, same mindset and behavior.
>>721291123
And?
You are making up scenarios and then saying nobody will care about your made up scenarios.
Annnnnnd? Your point?
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>>721290907
>Russian and Ukrainian are not the same language
Nobody claim otherwise
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>>721290907
>they just stop fighting back like the dirty fascists they are
Not the anon you replied to but you make a solid point - they should stop fighting and figure a way towards peace to at least ensure that there's a generation left to rebuild ukraine but their "leaders" are making a killing off of the gibs that come from the EU and US. If peace was a real goal, they would made steps towards it years ago.
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>>721291134
nah clear sky was great, I enjoyed it, I remember spending a lot of time enjoying the god rays and shaders, like water, smoke, paralax and other lost tech devs these days can't use.
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>>721283947
Because Stalker 2 is terrible
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I'm so tired
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why can't we have just ONE(1) Stalker thread outside of /wg/ that isn't full of picrel
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>>721290384
>Those aspects dont simulate anything.
>shills for AREA
GAMMAniggers should not post in stalker threads
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>>721291232
>There is no point in talking to you.
Yes, everyone lies all the time, sorry for breaking your world.
By the way, dont look up Santa Claus' real identity.
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>>721291410
>/pol/ game
>/pol/ trash talk
>WHY WHY WHY
I hope you are pretending
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>>721291134
Clear Sky is the better looking game. Shame it has the worst gameplay that STILL hasn't been fixed with mods.
Also I will never forgive GSC for what they did to my boy Scar in Stalker 2.
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>>721291232
>Your point?
That is strange seeing people pretend so hard they care about Ukraine, Russia, their languages or culture (not that slavs have anything resembling a culture) when absolutely no one does.
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>>721291404
Looking back, True Stalker kinda sucked. They had a solid baseline but the quests dragged on for way too long and were fanfic-tier shit.
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>>721291583
>/pol/ game
Nah, its just /v/ is full of 3rd world shitskins, only people who care about the communist civil war.
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>>721291485
>>721290916
Filtered casuals, I suggest you stick to Complete 2009
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>>721291794
It was a highly polished trash mod, I enjoyed the ride of the protag how hot bonked on the head one too many times
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>721291919
>Complete
look at this newfag, mf trying to shit talk but all he can do is bring up the top list from moddb lmao
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OP 2.2 is the one true STALKER experience and you'll never be right if you think otherwise.
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>>721288832
No one cares about Shitro
>>721288392
No one cares about Redditout
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>>721284674
>removed content
>poorly re-done AI upscaled textures
>quest "fixes" that go against the original design
>horrible performance despite looking worse
>STOLE code from modders to use for screenspace shaders
It's a poorly done remaster to cash on the legacy of the original games and remove a few aspects that modern politics deem problematic.
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>>721292265
>soup slop
>true anything
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>>721292185
of all the things I like/dislike about Complete, the thing I don't like the most is the fact it adds mountains to the skybox, when you're in the middle of Ukraine.
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>>721292459
Cope, your franchise is defined by being underbaked slop.
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>>721291919
>Filtered casuals
I don't have 20 hours to waste on grinding fetch quest for a chance to get a repair kit for a weapon that I wanna use to smoke some bandits. Fucking Tarkov niggers spend less time doing tedious shit.
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>>721288832
>Stalker is just Metro's ugly, unpopular and asmathic cousin.
Stalker is Metro's daddy. It was made by the same people. Then they went full circle and the people that made Metro went to work on the new stalker. Also when the fuck is the next metro game? It's been more than half a decade at this point.
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>>721292459
Metro is Stalker if it wasn't made by 10 drunks with a total budget lower than the game's sale price.
Doesn't need modding to be good and polished either.
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>>721291953
>It was a highly polished trash mod
very good way to describe it. wolfstaker may be a talented dude but he cannot stop smeling his own farts if his best work is true stalker. Was there really no one to tell him no when making the quests?
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>>721292265
Isn't that the mod that has quests that incorporate glitches into quest design?
I think there was one mission to recover some documents that literally needed you to glitch out of the map.
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>>721292865
>Doesn't need modding to be good and polished either.
The metro games still had some inherent jank to them but man were they teeming with SOUL. Very comfy atmosphere even if some if it diminished in Exodus.
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>>721291134
Same. The turf wars in the swamps at the start are fun, I think it's a perfect blend of a dangerous environment and the fact that everyone has shitty pistols and shotguns made shootouts fun.
I also don't remember having any problem playing it or getting softlocked.
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>>721292823
Seems like they only took the bad ones considering Exodus shits on Stalker 2, and the trilogy as well.
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>>721293153
>Exodus shits on Stalker 2
Elaborate on this, please. I played Exodus years ago and remember having mixed feelings on the combat and exploration.
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>>721292265
Stalker soup is for insane people.
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>>721283947
I don't know if I'm in the minority or not since /v/ shits on everything, but I have been really enjoying STALKER 2. To the point where it scratches that itch that I've been craving since the OG.

All you really need for STALKER 2 are some the of the mods on workshop like better ballistics, better death animations, and longer day/night cycles and you're good to go.

although, I did get the game just a couple weeks ago, so I'm unfamiliar with how it was during release.
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>>721296363
>but I have been really enjoying STALKER 2
return to form?
having a blast?
reddit spacing?
2 ruppees redeemed?
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>>721296363
>but I have been really enjoying STALKER 2
enjoy the time you have left, it goes downhill fast after the duga missions and the flaws become noticeable. I clocked in 150 hours on to separate playthroughs and it becomes readily apparent that they haven't playtested any quests beyond the first few areas you visit.
There's fundamental game design problems that mods cannot fix, like non-existent AI simulation, subpar combat behavior, UE5 performance etc.
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From where are we suposed to get the original STALKER releases now?
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>>721296919
That's what I've been afraid of.
And yeah, I have noticed some goofy animations and glitches here and there, but SOC had that too.
Idk, STALKER is a big part of my gaming childhood so I may have rose-tinted glasses on.

There should be another big update coming up in a couple days to a week so we'll see. It's good to know they're still working on improving the game.

>>721296630
funny, le epic 4chin funny



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