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>>721372526
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>>721372526
But schizobros, you keep saying how Playstation is dying?...
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Any idea how much sponduli the Conker, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, and Kameo IPs will cost?
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Unironically the next console gen is going to be cloud gaming akin to google stadia but we actually have the technology this time
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Good. The never added anything useful to gaming
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>>721372526
>dying
*died
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Does anyone on /v/ actually own a series X/S?
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>>721372861
Dumb zoomer
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Everything is an xbox
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>>721372958
Dumb Microshill
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>>721372958
Besides Halo what else did Xbox have?
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>>721373153
I'm not spelling it out for your zoomer ass you missed out. Go play seige and mario.
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>>721372526
MS pulling a Sega?
it's funny because I coincidentally just watched a video about Dreamcast's and Sega's downfall and the videocreator put up the assumption that MS entering the market played a big role for Sega to resign
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>>721372526
but what is an xbox
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>>721372861
>he's never lived through how Sony treat their customers when they're on top
>mfw Sony rootkit installed on my family PC
>mfw $499
>mfw RIIIIIIIIIIIDGERACER
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>>721372842
>>721372985
It's unironically this. Their strategy going forwards is to turn every single thing that has a screen into an Xbox that can either play or stream Xbox games. Having a console won't be necessary. It's the same as being able to access Netflix from anything with a screen, you don't need a dedicated Xbox console.
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>>721373153
he means xbox live probably as if this sort of cucksole multiplayer platform wouldn't exist without microshart (total delusion)
the story of microsoft are accidental successes that they knew nothing what to do with naturally correcting themselves to total failures
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>>721373153
it's an unironic "you had to be there" moment.
Hating halo also doesn't take away from the sheer value it brought to millions of people.
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>>721373478
Your mom is an xbox
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>>721372526
Almost no Swedish stores keep them stocked, at least online from what I've seen. You can buy them directly from Microsoft but they cost 830 fuckin' dollars in Swede bucks now.
All they had to do was make cool games and instead we get bullshit and nig-tranny garbage. I'm surprised they haven't just gutten 343/Halo Studios, they can't make anything worth shit.
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>>721372526
What kind of retard buys US products in 2025?
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>>721372885
Beck'
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>>721373587
My mom is dead
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>>721374036
lmao GOTTEM
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>>721374036
So is Xbox
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>>721372526
couldn't be happier
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>>721373587
>>721374036
exactly.
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Acshually I do, I own over 120 games for it (mostly backwards compatible stuff) and Gamepass
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>>721372861
>implying a console monopoly is a good thing
Sony has been going down the shitter for a while now, but now they have literally no excuse to care at all. Have fun with eating literal shit for the next decade.
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>>721372842
And you'll need to live in like one of the four cities that has Google fiber internet to even be able to stream the game. So it makes perfect sense Microsoft would completely fuck up ANOTHER console gen
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>>721372526
What the fuck is costco?
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>xbox is dying bros lmao
>$9.99 has been deducted from your account for xbox game pass
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>>721374342
Because they totally gave a shit until now.
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Sony has no games?
Xbox has no fucking CONSOLE
KEK
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>>721373480
>mfw Sony rootkit installed on my family PC
I never owned a single Sony console except the ps4.
Quick rundown?
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>>721374523
See >>721373480

It can always be way way worse.
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>>721372861
They kicked Sony's massive ego down a peg when it was needed. There were 6 solid years where the 360 was a better console than the PS3, and that was with half their boxes near self immolating.
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>>721373274
>mario.
Well don't mind if I do. Mario is the fucking best anyways
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>>721372842
>we actually have the technology this time
Barely anything has changed since the stadia days.
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>>721374554
>Sony has no games?
Sony had one of the greatest mascots althoughbeit
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Xbox died, but it took until the industry collapse for it to happen
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>>721374342
What good is a console that doesn't have any exclusives these days? At best it's an entry vector for pirates that got their bounty spoiled by Denuvo
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>>721374587
But Xbox has done worse than all of those.
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>>721372713
sony has fuckyou money, no regular company would have survived the ps3 which was losing them BILLIONS every year
concord is a drop in the bucket for them
notice how the 3 big console companies are all multibillion dollar corporations that could bleed money for decades and survive
it ain't a world for companies like hudson or sega anymore
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>>721374948
'cuz of gayness
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Roblox
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>>721374581
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal
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>>721372526
>$150 price increase
Not only is the Series X much more expensive than a PS5 now but is $50 more expensive than a fucking PS5 Pro that wipes the floor with it specs wise. It's clear at this point MS just don't give a shit about Xbox.
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>>721375340
And have in my handling the Series X so poorly like this will make people care even less about their next Xbox/Handheld or whatever they are doing. They are pretty much cooked and irrelevant.
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>>721374338
Kys useless coomer
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>>721372526
Good.
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>>721374342
Competition has given us nothing but $80 games, $700 consoles and pay to play online. It has literally given us nothing of value. How much worse it can get?
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>>721372885
this is now a becky cunny loli thread
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>>721375825
Biologically engineered for BBC
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Lmao

This lunatic moron had made a spam thread only for trying to censor my comment on the last thread

Like i explain few minute ago, Microsoft are trying to give a free and base tier hardware with their gamepass monthly subscribtion for people who they had not enough money to buying game hardware too frequently

This hardware are named project Keystone and they are now made by second party hardware manufacturer and they was be planned to be annonced by the end of this current fiscal year

The first are set to be released next month and they are probably the ASUS Rog xbox edition

Keep seethe Snoy

Your oppoment are now the gafam or the chinese tech giant and you had no chance to win at this time
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>>721372842
The thing holding the Stadia back wasn't technology but the laws of physics
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>>721375853
>How much worse it can get?
Cloud-gaming becomes standard.
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>>721372842
Next console gen?
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>>721375853
what gaming has is very negative competition thanks to FUCKING IPHONES!!!!!!!! THATS THE FUCKING REASON WHY THIS MARKET IS SHITTTTTT!!!!!! In the snes era it was way more healthy because of the lack of internet so you actually had to compete in terms of hardware and software alone. SNES generation had a lot of competition and it was awesome because of it. It wasn't just Sega and Nintendo but also PC and of course all the other consoles like what atari and SNK had.
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The funny thing is that "dead Xbox" sold a lot more consoles than GameCube or Wii U.
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>>721376191
stadia was reality challenged
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>>721375825
just being able to watch would be satisfactory for me
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>>721376163
You understand that nothing Xbox will ever sell again, right?
Stickers and Xbox buttons on 3rd party hardware is going to flop 10x harder than the series S/X.
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>>721376743
Nintendo had the handheld lines to soften the blow. And also Xbox always had the retarded "advantage" of still having FIFA and COD slop for thirdies. Third parties are like fucking allergic to Nintendo for some reason.
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>>721376743
>Wii U
Selling more than a poorly selling console when the market is twice the size of the market back then isn't something to brag about. People don't buy Xbox because it has no interesting games that would bring you to buy it. It's just multiplatform games now.
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>>721376191
Google stadia was only a bad manner for the current gaming playerbase,

they are free (not a problem) and the mininum internet requirement (the first problem) are absolutly a golden gate for the typical gamer

Secondary, the absence of physical hardware are a critical problem for Google stadia

Personally, the apple Silicon gaming solution are probably the worse into the industry with their ideological and pathological fixation with the mobile gaming market

Nobody wanted to Play with mobile game except the casual gamer and the technocrat politician
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>>721373153
Paying for online.
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>>721372825
how does he get a boner with all that armor?
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>>721376286
>can't buy a console
>pays $100 every month for fast internet
And the tablet, phone or wtv you play on is free?
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>>721377000
Xbox has been dead for 2 gens and it's still doing better than either GC or Wii U, and not even exclusives could save Wii U.
Another piece of irony is that Microsoft published games are constantly the best selling games on PlayStation
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>>721372842
>next console gen
lol
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>>721373497
>their strategy
There is no way that you don't know that that's simply them giving up in a way that allows them to save face. What's wrong with you?
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>>721372885
Becky x Sex
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Good. Consoles are a scam, always have been. Just buy a PC

>muh price

You always had to have 3 fucking consoles + Nintendo handhelds to play all the games which costs more than a PC. Imagine falling for this obvious scam and defending it.
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>>721376743
The funny thing is that the Wii U did not make Nintendo give up on making consoles.
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>>721377305
>Another piece of irony is that Microsoft published games are constantly the best selling games on PlayStation
You don't understand the numbers you're talking about.
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>>721376705
I neve ronced gamed on my phone except for sudoku puzzles.
I can't imagine actual "'gaming'' on a fucking phone. Even if I was a turdie, I stll wouldn't. An absolute inferior experience.
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>>721374342
There's not a console monopoly without xbox. Just play your microsoft games on PC.
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>>721376705
Correct. The industry peaked with the 16-bit wars.
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>>721372932
I had one but sold it last year when it was clear M$ was going third party. Kinda wish I had waited until after the tariffs hit because I could have got more money.
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>>721372842
We might have the technology but most of the US doesn't have the internet for it.
The US is majority of game sales and if majority of the US doesn't have good enough internet for cloud gaming it will not take off.
Gotta fix the ISP mafia before then.
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>>721375853
Yeah because no competition leads to lower prices, right?
Holy fucking retard
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>>721376705
PC games couldn't even really do proper scrolling when the NES came out. Modern consoles are a joke. The PS5's loading times were actually something PCs couldn't do, at least. But now PC has that with Direct Storage and it's even faster.
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Was it ever alive? A multigenerational spanning console being kept alive by americans while everyone else barely knew it existed
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>>721372842
decentralize server and let autists run their own playstation/nintendo/xbox servers out of their basments, it would be cryptomining 2
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>>721375024
Microsoft is a much larger and profitable company. It's not even up for debate moron
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Just two more weeks.
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>>721373478
how many of you sperges have enough of a lap to hold a laptop?
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>>721372842
Cloud gaming doesn’t work because of latency issues you’d have to completely transform the network everywhere it’s sold. It’s not about the device at all. It’s a nightmare.

They already have the hooks they want: digital only copies, non transferable copies, copies that can self destruct, access that can be bricked. You WILL pay the subscription goy.
Only thing holding back the tide of streaming tv type shittiness is Steam being the biggest and having some standards (even if they do some of this).

If Gaben dies and some jackass replaces him you’ll pay monthly fees to keep access to games you already bought.
Rent seeking is absolute poison to economists of all stripes and it’s also what all monied interest want. Debt slaves, forever.
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>>721373480
How did Sony console related treat its customers? Because I simply bought a console and game and enjoyed it without an issue. I bought a tv without issue

>>721374581
Something unrelated to the consoles and downloading software as if Microsoft didn't have a myriad of issues
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>>721372861
Niggerfaggot if not for them, Sony would have remained the absolute egomaniac clowns that they were during the PS3 generation.

Be glad that the 360 kicked Snoy so bad they had to lose billions to make the PS3 even remotely close to a decent console.
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2 more weeks uys
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>>721372526
they should try raising prices again
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>>721379008
Xbox ≠ Microsoft.
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>>721379413
>d-d-doesn't count
Nigger, Microsoft invests heavily into Xbox now more than ever, "the brand" will never "go away"
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>sony has nothing stopping them from going full jew now that xbox is dead
>nintendo has already been doing it since reggie left
>pc involves so many different companies that going full maximum overjew is impossible because that would require a dozen different companies across multiple different industries to form a cartel to fuck with every single piece of hardware and software
The worst we have to deal with is nvidia overpricing gpus. I'm so glad I dropped consoles years ago.
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>>721372932
I do, mostly play older backwards compatible games on it.
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>>721372526
>dying
They're already dead
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>>721372713
/v/ has been saying Playstation and now Nintendo are dying. This board is filled with PCbros who deny reality.
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>>721372526
i went to Costco today to buy maple syrup and they had none
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>>721379008
the difference is Microsoft can survive without xbox. sony can’t survive without playstation
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>be xbox
>create the most abhorrent and hostile user experience possible by forcing users to always be online and sign in
>mandatory updates
>doesn't matter if you're playing a game and haven't saved for an hour
>MANDATORY UPDATES BITCH
switched to pc; will switch to linux in a decade when 10 kicks the bucket like 7 soon will

fuck microsoft
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>>721373153
Nothing, plus Halo would have been better as a Mac/PC exclusive. That version of Halo was killed for the dumbed down baby FPS one with a shitty control scheme.
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>>721373324
>MS pulling a Sega?
No, worse, they're pulling a Microsoft, meaning when their product doesn't do well, they gut it and shove it into Windows before they fully kill it.
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>>721372526
Strangers waitin'
Up and down the boulevard
Their shadows searchin' in the night
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>>721374948
Going on like two decades later and I still giggle
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>>721372842
No, it's not, Phil Spencer already spelled it out, idiot. Xbox going forward is just an extension of Windows. Prepare for the worse along with your backlogs getting wiped, again.
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>>721374338
why are you a pedo?
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>>721379892
ok cool have fun with your PC indie shithole anarchy experience I guess.
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>>721372842
Why? Phones can run modern console games, there's no need for a cloud
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>>721380343
This, switching to Linux is already on my list. I can't do this anymore with Microsoft, I just can't, man.
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>>721380767
what does that even mean?
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>>721372713
They are, at a slower pace. The moment you decide to put your games everywhere is the moment you gave up. They're not even pushing the boundaries forward anymore. PC and Nintendo are the leading platforms again. Don't try to argue about this, EXCLUSIVES ARE EVERYTHING.
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>>721380841
With indies It feels like pure anarchy at this point and have no stability. It's a phase where indies are so hyper experimental that it'll take a while before new established games become a reality. And having something be established is good actually because then it can advance properly with tradition for a little while.
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>>721372713
SONY is dead to me and there's no reason to buy a PS5 if you are not brown
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>>721380989
Holy shit learn how to speak english before you post on an english imageboard.
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>>721380953
yeah playstation has at best PS6 and maybe PS7 left and then it's over. And even sooner also if it's all digital.
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>>721373478
I’m scared at the chance there are normies who fell for this obvious marketing scam and actually believe all of these are "Xbox". So when the day comes that they abandon hardware, they’re going to be like
>nuh uh xbox is not dead. Its more popular than ever before!1 Look at all these players (not sales) You are just a Sony fan!!!
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>>721372526
I doubt you can even afford a costco membership
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>>721381025
IKR???? Especially after the fucking deranged devs mocking charlie's death, like im fucking done and PS has been dead to me since 2020. I'll still emulate ps1 and 2 since it's legacy at this point. But yeah I'll just stick with fucking PC at this point and cry over the state of the west today.

Actually I will also still have my Switch around since I have a sizable physical library for it of course. And I'll get Switch 2 once the meaty Zelda game drops for it or once the library becomes big enough.
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>>721381145
>worrying what idiots think
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>>721381145
Worse yet, that'll just be Game Pass. So even less purchases will be made.
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>>721372526
>this is the new cope
Always goes back to hardware sales as if Xbox didn't colonize the "PlayStation Nation" ages ago.
>>721380343
>pc troon blatantly conflicting with an Xbox single-player game with an mmo or ftp fps game
Like, what is the point? It's so disingenuous. Just play with your toys in peace.
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>>721381278
>Just play with your toys in peace.
Microsoft won't let me. Tried that.
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>>721381237
it has no games and borderlands 4 runs at 720p
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>>721380989
What's this gay shit you're spouting? If somebody makes a great game, they made a great game. It's not like you're sitting in front of your PC going, damn that indie dev is not stable enough to be part of my console war team, so I can't play it.
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>>721380801
Be careful with that. Linux is not anywhere near as user-friendly as the people who made it their identity claim it is. And windows isn't as fucked as they claim, either.
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Consoles are an outdated and obsolete concept that only still exist as a means to leverage laziness, stupidity, and blind fanboyism into making idiots pay more for less.
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>>721381538
Guess I'll use Linux for gaming (SteamOS/Steam Deck 2) and Windows for everything else not gaming then.
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Man I sure do love having less choices to make in how I spend my money.
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>>721381584
For consoles, only Nintendo needs to exist, for PC, only Valve needs to exist. The rest are worthless.
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>>721381584
wow look at this fucking fruitcake
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>>721381694
It might actually correct itself in the long term once companies understand what needs to be challenged. If Sega stops fucking around they might actually get themselves in the position to get back to consoles by 2030s.
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>>721372526
so who won the console war? playstation, xbox, nintendo, they all are pretty shit at the end of the day
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>>721381879
They won't, Sega can't do consoles just like they couldn't even do arcades. Nintendo won by simply making video games toys, everyone else just made shit that can work as third parties. Only Nintendo and PC are unique.
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>>721375853
We got those things precisely because xbox died witht the bone.
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>>721381993
Nintendo only thanks to everyone else becoming retarded
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>>721381993
Nintendo dumbass. Literally are about to finish off PS2 at this point.

Enjoy the new monarchy I guess. They don't call it the mushroom kingdom for nothing.
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>>721381993
No one, Nintendo created their own market, Valve created and won their own market will completely win their market in 2027. Sony's and Microsoft's living room market is dying because it was never built to last. Video games never evolved from being toys and nerd software.
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>xbox is le dead, xbox is le relevant
>maxed out thread
You insecure fags are clearly threatened by Xbox, stop pretending. You've been saying shit like this for 15-20 years now. The Rog Ally X can play Sony games, and it scares you. The next Xbox will have Steam integration, and that scares you. Exclusivity is dead, the console war was never worth winning, get over it
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Good, fuck Microshit and fuck it's retarded fans.
Ruined console gaming and almost killed PC gaming.
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>people unironically believe that normalfags will switch to pc to play fifa and cod
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>>721382213
>Video games never evolved from being toys and nerd software.

well that's exactly how it should be. Games as art was AWFUL
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>>721376743
Ok but xbox had 2 bad gens in a row. N64 and wii money helped soften the fall. Also the switch recovered them all the money they could have ever lose.
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>>721382251
Even Phil Spencer said your green box is dead, it got shoved in Windows and that's where it's staying before Microsoft pulls the plug completely.
>Exclusivity is dead
For Sony and Microsoft yes, for Nintendo and Valve, no.
>The next Xbox will have Steam integration
It won't, if it even still exists, the OEMs will though.
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>>721382271
They'll switch to mobile
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>>721382273
Agreed, Sony and Microsoft tried hard to changed this during the 7th generation and just couldn't, lol.
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>>721382458
to play cod and fifa?
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>>721382518
the amount of journo shilling was crazy. Playstation is fucking DESPERATE to maintain the narrative
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>>721372932
I own a SeX and an Xbone X. I only play dudebro, Ubisoft, Lego, and BC games on them. They are not worth it compared to any other platform.
>The UI is worse.
>The controller design has been worse than the 360 since the Xbone outside of the d-pad.
>The screenshot and video capturing is easily the worst of the big three by a country mile (Taking screenshots and then doing an instant replay corrupts the video. Absolutely genius.)
>Many physical games are not on the disk compared to PS4 or PS5.
>You are outright missing countless games that get released on Switch 1/2 or PS4/PS5, particularly Japanese ones.
>The performance increase on the SeX is barely notable most of the time compared to the base PS5 because less focus is given to it.
You're just wasting your money. There is no benefit to it and I only got it because I specifically like certain game brands and game types to be on certain systems. If I didn't have this preference I'd never have owned an Xbone X or SeX whatsoever.
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>>721382570
Yes, all they want is to consume and be part of a community/event.
They don't give a shit about the gameplay.

AAA niggers just want to scoialize through videogames.
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>>721373274
>not spelling it out
>seige
heh
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>>721382271
It mainly depends on if Valve's home console/handheld strategy kicks off in 2027. Deck 2 should be fine and be huge at retailers, home console is up in the air, PC guys will go nuts for it, but normalfags will probably ignore it hoping Sony's PS6s are cheap (they won't be). But, I think they will fuck off to mobile or get a life and gaming will be filled with kids and nerds again.
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>>721382653
So then why haven't they already done that?
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>>721382715
>gaming will be filled with kids and nerds again.


FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>721382612
They are, games will never be Hollywood movies or Netflix's junk. Betraying gamers was always going to bite them in the butt.
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>>721382319
N64 didn’t really sell that much. Only like 1/3 of the PSX. Tendie YouTubers make it seem like the console was something everyone owned. Nintendo’s handheld division was their money printing license. Everyone DID in fact own a GameBoy in the 1990s and a DS in the 2000s.
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>>721372526
I'll be honest, no idea costco sold consoles.
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>>721382758
They are COD is much bigger on mobile than console and still being played mostly by 30-40 year old retards.

Half the reason for the skins is influence from COD mobile.
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>>721382931
iPhones were a disaster
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>>721372932
Yeah, got an X early gen because I was way out of the loop. It serves its purpose for new releases and gamepass, just missing some Sony stuff
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if xbox and playstation arent going to have different games then what is the point of having different consoles? it makes more sense for microsoft to just focus on pc gaming on windows, especially considering windows is losing marketshare so fast.
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>>721372932
I was gifted one at the end of last year. I bought 6 months of gamepass before I realized all I'm really interested in playing was Oblivion Remastered after it came out. I also don't like the anxiety of paying for something monthly and feeling like I have to play so many games to make it worth. I just let it lapse and went back to playing Rocket League on my PC
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>>721372526
Vased
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>>721373478
Disappointed they didn't sneak in a pic of a water cooler
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Good bye Xbox, everything was an Xbox btw.
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>>721383010
Halo and COD were a disaster
Microsoft was a disaster
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>>721383186
I still can't believe that happened, imagine comparing playing vidya with office chitchat.
These upper management executives are all clueless nepobabies up their own ass.
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>>721375853
>Competition has given us nothing but $80 games
No, retarded politicians and PC graphix fags who wasted over 3000 dollars for indie games and poorly emulated games is what gave us $80 games and $700 consoles
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>EVERYONE LOOK A BLUE CHECKMARK SAID A FOOD STORE WASN'T SELLING XBOXES
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>>721382715
Even if retailers get the Steam Deck 2 I don't believe that's going to get as much traffic as everyone seems to think considering the Rog Ally had actual demo units at every single Best Buy and that thing shelfwarmed like mad to the point that it was $350 and still not leaving their stores. If the Xbox Rog Ally doesn't move then I sincerely doubt the SD2 would.

When it comes to the home console side of things I also think that will be niche at best and be stuck with computers, not in the same aisles as Nintendo or Sony systems. When you have nothing but the system and digital store cards to show for it your footprint is going to be negligible in stores and won't stick out.
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>>721374342
If Nintendo did get a console monopoly there's nothing stopping them from going back to making traditional consoles.
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>>721372526
Consoles in general are dying. And good riddance.
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>>721377070
>>721372842
Smells like Phil Harrison in here. Get outta here, stinky
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PlayStation and Nintendo will meet the same fate. Literally nothing is selling right now thanks to the price increases.
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>>721384298
The thing is, the ROG Ally was expensive and without exclusives, this will be affordable and launch with Half-Life 3 as a killer app. It may also get more PC players interested in getting one.
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>>721384867
Only Sony is rumored to be increasing their PlayStation prices again.
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>>721384979
Steam Deck also has no exclusives you clown, nice headcanon about HL3
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>Even if retailers get the Steam Deck 2 I don't believe that's going to get as much traffic as everyone seems to think considering the Rog Ally had actual demo units at every single Best Buy and that thing shelfwarmed like mad to the point that it was $350 and still not leaving their stores. If the Xbox Rog Ally doesn't move then I sincerely doubt the SD2 would.
The Steam Deck is sold in stores though?
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>>721385085
Valve's plans to give the Steam Deck 2 and the home console a proper console launch, Half-Life 3 is the start of them developing games again and making Steam PC exclusives.
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>>721372526
COSTCO? JUSTIFIED
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>>721385139
>$15,499.00
>In Mexico
Oi, why does it cost so much for a Steam Deck OLED 512GB there?
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>>721385045
Nintendo will too. They preemptively upped the price from $400 to $450 before release and will most likely eat what losses come later this year then after holidays theyll up it to $500. No way in hell are they going to up it before the upcoming holidays when Xbox and PlayStation being $150+ more than them is guaranteeing them the win. Pair that with the only worthwhile game coming out next month and they will be the only console selling
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>>721384979
>the ROG Ally was expensive and without exclusives
It doesn't matter, it was still able to run Steam and the Armoury Crate came with it done by default if I remember right. You're asking console players to switch to a platform they have no games on or very few games on with something like a Steam Deck. The Xbox Rog Ally at the very least has the backing of the Xbox Store and you being able to play the majority of what you had digitally on your Xbox.
>launch with Half-Life 3 as a killer app
Don't act like things like this will happen. You have no way to believe that would ever happen.

Even if these got retail releases they'd be relegated to the PC side of the store, not the console gaming side of the store. PC gaming has no footprint outside of digital cards meaning they'd look like an extremely sparse and dead section of the store. It's why the Rog Ally demo units are right next to either the PC accessories or laptops at Best Buy. At best they'd have an extra controller to buy and the dock. Meanwhile consoles have all the physical copies, accessories, and things like Amiibos to extend their brand to span aisles. As it is things like the Meta Quest are relegated to a random end of the aisle or even put into the smartphone section of stores and those have entire controllers, face replacements, and other accessories in them.

>>721385139
Not in the US. The only things sold in stores are Legion Go and Rog Allies with only the Rog Ally having demo units, and they're always in some accessory section or laptop section of the store. One of my Best Buys literally slapped the Rog Ally in a corner near the refrigerators and USB cables.
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>>721385297
Its Pesos. Costco is probably too lazy to change the dollar sign. Converted to freedom bucks thats $844.18
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>>721373478
bro where's the xbox fridge baka

oh yeah that actually existed. Is it any good, or am I better off getting a normal mini fridge
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>>721379892
Consoles have stopped being consoles since gen7. They have just been worse lockdown PCs. I miss true consoles. They are now just the worst parts of PC and what they once were all at once. Sony likewise is dead to me. Sony was like a hybrid of a Japanese and a Western company. It went pure western cancer during gen8.
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>>721385335
The Switch 2 was always going to be $450 as per leaks. Its price will stay the same.
>>721385453
>It doesn't matter, it was still able to run Steam and the Armoury Crate came with it done by default if I remember right
It matters a lot, no one gives a shit about OEMs.
>You're asking console players to switch to a platform they have no games on or very few games on with something like a Steam Deck
You're ignoring the fact that the Steam Deck 2 and home console will have Steam exclusives made by Valve.
>The Xbox Rog Ally at the very least has the backing of the Xbox Store and you being able to play the majority of what you had digitally on your Xbox
No one gives a single shit about this piece of crap, plus, Xbox is dead.
>Don't act like things like this will happen. You have no way to believe that would ever happen.
It's almost finished being developed saved for a huge hardware announcement.

Everything else you're saying is pure cope, SteamOS is coming in a big way in the coming years.
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God what a crying shame. I hate how these giant corps just let these brands rot away as they chase AI. So fucking gay.
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>>721372932
I managed to get one during the kung fu flu when scalperniggers were all the rage. Has been collecting dust since making the jump over to PC. Might just sell it for some chump change and cut them off entirely.
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>>721386531
>It matters a lot, no one gives a shit about OEMs.
The context matters when it comes to the general public. The Steam Deck 2 will likely be viewed just like any other OEM device.
>You're ignoring the fact that the Steam Deck 2 and home console will have Steam exclusives made by Valve.
Where's any of your proof for his?
https://gamingbolt.com/valves-steam-store-page-lists-unannounced-game-as-upcoming-release-rumours
This is the best I could find and that's one single title potentially being made alongside Deadlock.
>No one gives a single shit about this piece of crap
It's still getting a boatload of coverage from all the usual places and will very likely be placed in the console section because it's Xbox branded. The "Steam" brand likely wouldn't afford console aisle space in the same way.
>It's almost finished being developed saved for a huge hardware announcement.
Again, where's your proof?
>Everything else you're saying is pure cope
No, it's completely reasonable views on how the situation currently is that you're willfully ignoring.

Valve doesn't have access to console spaces because it's a PC company so it's very likely to be relegated into a much lower traffic area in laptops and PCs, especially since both the SD and a future Steam Machine would just be toned down PCs. SteamOS being great doesn't change the fact that you now have to get Xbox, Playstation, and Nintendo users to shift from their already established ecosystems, especially if they weren't PC gamers prior. I personally know at least two people who only play on Playstations and have never touched PC gaming for example so they have no Steam account, and another friend who has a Steam account but only plays MOBAs on it.

I personally don't expect their Steam Machines to do well at all and at best the Steam Deck does a bit better than an (Xbox) Rog Ally unless Valve somehow convinces companies to put it with their PS5s and Switches and also explains that it's a digital-only device.
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>>721372526
Not good. We need retarded manchildren playing consolewars to maintain a competitive console environment. It is important to me as a PC gamer.
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I don't agree with that at all. Games ARE art, the problem is that the ideas of "art" that game journos and Sony Naughty Dog types had were really stupid. Their vision of "cinematic" games are boring, generic, handhold-ey slogs that are pretty to look at but don't have much else going for them beyond the surface. It genuinely makes one wonder what kind of movies they even watch - or if they even watch movies at all and base their ideas on what "cinema" is off of mainstream popcorn normie slop or other entry-level "cinema". Compare those games to those made by Hideo Kojima, a guy who is an actual cinephile, saying his body's made of "70% film" and recommending that creators read more books and watch more movies. Say what you will about his games having weird quirks or taking themselves too seriously despite the presence of said quirks, but as someone who's watching more movies himself, I honestly think he might be right. Like, a lot of those more kino artsy movies also have silly or dumb shit in them, but there's actually a lot of cool stuff to find than people give them credit for. Maybe those Sony "games as art" types need to go deep dive a bit and watch some actual fucking kino movies to discover a more authentic "cinematic" inspiration and incorporate that into gaming in a way that respects the medium instead of pursuing this stupid shitty bland ideal of "cinrmatic" that desperately tries to imitate movies (or the more generic ones] that only game journo morons and others insecure about gaming as a medium think are "artistic".
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whenever i think about microsoft products i think of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_mXvgKXxpY

it is the perfect story/example of how little microsoft gives a fuck about the customer experience. seriously whenever i'm furious trying to figure out some fucking obscure windows bug or i'm inconvenienced in any way because of this fucking company i rewatch this.
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>>721380953
Which pc exclusives are you talking about then? Surely you can name things with a higher peak player count than 15, right?
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>>721387378
>The context matters when it comes to the general public. The Steam Deck 2 will likely be viewed just like any other OEM device.
lmao, the Steam Deck is the PC handheld market, Microsoft will be crushed completely. Valve beats them in everything PC gaming.
>Where's any of your proof for his?
There's literally multiple leaks on it, you can easily look it up.
>It's still getting a boatload of coverage from all the usual places and will very likely be placed in the console section because it's Xbox branded. The "Steam" brand likely wouldn't afford console aisle space in the same way.
Paid coverage, with each having the same title of this changes everything. Digital Foundry is one of the few that spilled the beans on how shit it is.
>Again, where's your proof?
Look it up
>No, it's completely reasonable views on how the situation currently is that you're willfully ignoring.
It's cope, Xbox no longer has any pull. The Xbox PC Microsoft Store isn't getting any games, only Steam is. Xbox is no longer getting review copies, Steam, Switch/Switch 2, and PS5 are, no one is selling Xbox consoles in stores now. Xbox ROG Ally can't even play your Xbox console backlog. Xbox is no longer selling physical games. Xbox is dead and Valve is about push PC gaming to the mainstream by consolizing it. While I don't expect the Steam home console to set the world on fire because home consoles are on their way out, I expect the Steam Deck 2 to not only sell far better than the original but outright own the PC handheld market. You seem to not understand how far Xbox has fallen.
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>>721388614
Half-Life mother fucking 3, bitch
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>>721381584
You're very stupid, people who are a bit smarter than you want a simple box to play their yearly release and GaaS garbage on.
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>>721383489
Games have historically and on average always been more expensive on consoles than on PC. You retards are paying extra to use your own internet.
You retards are outraged about PC people complaining about bad ports, because having any form of standards is a foreign concept to you. You just go "runs fine on my shitbox" while watching a powerpoint presentation.
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>>721373478
Who comes up with this shit? What were they thinking?
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>>721388614
Counter Strike 2.
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>>721388650
>the Steam Deck is the PC handheld market
Yeah, I'm not denying that. What I'm saying is that the Xbox Rog Ally will have visibility in stores because of the Xbox brand.
>There's literally multiple leaks on it, you can easily look it up.
https://x.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1968781269510070704
No you can't. Even looking "Valve video game leaks" and limiting it to the past month or six months that link I gave you is the best I could find that isn't just talking about Deadlock over and over.
>Paid coverage
Paid coverage that gets far more casual eyeballs. Microsoft is trying to push this to laymen.
>Xbox no longer has any pull.
Xbox still has its ecosystem that they can leverage to get at least several million people on its handheld. Valve can beat this by making the SD2 $500 though.
>no one is selling Xbox consoles in stores now.
All of my local Targets, Walmarts, Best Buys, and Gamestops still have them in stores. The only thing that has slimmed down is their physical games which are primarily only the most recent games (Like AC Shadows or Call of Duty) and clearanced games. All these stores still sell the systems, accessories, and some games meaning Microsoft can still leverage these sections even if they're much smaller than before because they're directly next to Nintendo and Sony.
>You seem to not understand how far Xbox has fallen.
No, I understand it very well, but you are denying reality for a much more bleak outlook on how things are actually working currently. Xbox is on the way out but it's not gone yet from stores.

Valve putting Steam Decks in stores would be treated just like Meta Quest 3s: That weird device in the aisle with all the figures and plushies that costs $500 or that thing in the PC aisle that costs $500. They have no physical games to prop up a section, at best they'd sell controllers and docks, and their only claim to fame is digital storefront cards. Their visibility is going to be just as small as a Rog Ally in Best Buy now.
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>>721372526
xbox is basically gonna be switching to selling specialized prebuilt pcs
Because consoles in general are dying out completely
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>>721389297
>CS2
>pushing boundaries

Which?
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>>721389471
>Because consoles in general are dying out completely
NS1 is beating PS2 and NS2 broke all records. It's just Xbox and Playstation that's dying
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>>721377704
That's because you had the experience of gaming with a proper controller. And you're an adult that can afford those so you won't settle with less. Turdie children and teens just make do with what their parents bought them.
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>>721389212
>t. Spent enough on a PC to gloat about a library of shovelware and indie games

>Enough funds spent to support a console online for 15+ years.

Get real!
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>>721389628
Playstation isn't dying either, it's sold what, 60 or 80 million PS5s despite next to no games justifying it? Console exclusivity from Microsoft and Sony is dying which is beyond retarded though. For Microsoft it makes sense because they're turning into Sega at this point, but for Sony they're retarded full stop.
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>>721372526
nintendo will be the last one standing. gaystation nation is no more.
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>>721372842
>but we actually have the technology this time
We invented quantum tunneling for networking?
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who cares, costco is a woke dei store anyways
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>>721389792
Still millions behind PS4 and now Switch 2 gets third party games, Sony also just fudges the numbers by pretending PS4 is part of the "PS5 generation" so it looks better, the remaining PS4 owners can switch to PC or Switch 2 for all we know
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>>721372932
I do. It’s my main platform where I buy all my multiplats and spend the majority of my gaming time on. I fucking hate the direction MS is taking it and I would have moved over to the PS5 at the start of the gen instead if they made the fact Xbox was going full multiplat known instead of waiting till longtime fans like me bought one then fucking us over. Faggot cucks that said exclusives don’t matter are eternally shown to be fucking retarded. Xbox has no identity or games of its own anymore and it’s in the deepest hole it’s ever been in. Games will always matter for a console, I don’t know how this is hard for tards to understand
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>>721372526
xbox?
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>>721389441
>Yeah, I'm not denying that. What I'm saying is that the Xbox Rog Ally will have visibility in stores because of the Xbox brand.
The Xbox brand is dead, it no longer has visibility. If it did, the Xbox PC app wouldn't be getting crushed by the Steam Launcher and they wouldn't be trying to sell this "Xbox" handheld on having Steam.
>No you can't. Even looking "Valve video game leaks" and limiting it to the past month or six months that link I gave you is the best I could find that isn't just talking about Deadlock over and over.
You can literally look up Half-Life 3 rumors/leaks on youtube and get it right there.
>Paid coverage that gets far more casual eyeballs. Microsoft is trying to push this to laymen.
No one gives a shit about the ROG Xbox Ally and there are signs that both will be very expensive, still no price.
>Xbox still has its ecosystem that they can leverage to get at least several million people on its handheld. Valve can beat this by making the SD2 $500 though.
A shrinking ecosystem and Valve doesn't need to change anything because Microsoft isn't a threat.
>All of my local Targets, Walmarts, Best Buys, and Gamestops still have them in stores
And no one is buying them, Xbox is irrelevant.
>No, I understand it very well, but you are denying reality for a much more bleak outlook on how things are actually working currently
I simply see the writing on the wall, Xbox is dead.

>Valve putting Steam Decks in stores would be treated just like Meta Quest 3s: That weird device in the aisle with all the figures and plushies that costs $500 or that thing in the PC aisle that costs $500. They have no physical games to prop up a section, at best they'd sell controllers and docks, and their only claim to fame is digital storefront cards. Their visibility is going to be just as small as a Rog Ally in Best Buy now.
Steam is huge and a massive marketing campaign with affordable prices and games optimized for their hardware out of the gate will sell wonders.
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>>721389628
This

>>721389792
It's dying, going multiplat is waving the white flag.
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>>721372526
FINALLY THANK GOD
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>>721389212
>Games have historically and on average always been more expensive on consoles than on PC.
No they haven't because physical copies exist. Unless you are willing to deal with grey market CD keys like G2A or CDKeys it always takes longer for digital to drop below physical let alone stay in that permanent price drop point. Even then some games have way more frequent sales physically like with RDR2 and Sekiro as two major examples that took years for PC to catch up. A great current example is the CoD games which are typically priced fully on PC but on consoles you can get basically everything but the most modern stuff (Like, the last two releases) for $20-30 new. The older stuff nowadays is at least $20 on PC but the closer you get to even games 5 years old you're paying full price.
https://isthereanydeal.com/game/call-of-duty-modern-warfare/info/
https://gg.deals/game/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2019/

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-standard-edition-playstation-5-playstation-4/J7G4C98RVY
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-Xbox-One/468628334

>>721390159
>It's dying
It has no equivalent in the console space. Switch 2 isn't aiming for its general fidelity and Microsoft is pretty much dead.
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>>721390386
>It has no equivalent in the console space. Switch 2 isn't aiming for its general fidelity and Microsoft is pretty much dead.
Doesn't matter, if I can get your game anywhere else, why by PlayStation hardware. Sony already saw this strategy killed the Xbox and yet, they follow the same failing strategy.
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>>721372932
I do. I like it. But im an idort.
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>>721390485
*buy
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>>721390159
Sony has sold as many ps5s as nvidia has sold gpus since the 30 series. If the ps5 is dying then so is pc gaming.
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>>721382715
It wont be able to run fifa or cod.
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>>721390602
High-end shit is dying, handhelds are the future but only for Nintendo and Valve.

>>721390645
Given that Valve's doing what Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft does with developers to get them to get serious with their hardware with these upcoming hardware, chances are, those may end up being playable. Original Steam Deck like the Steam Index is nothing more than an experiment before the real deal.
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>>721390090
>The Xbox brand is dead, it no longer has visibility.
It has visibility. it literally still has sections in stores. You can walk into basically any big box store right now and there are still Xbox sections.
>You can literally look up Half-Life 3 rumors/leaks on youtube
https://gamerant.com/half-life-3-leak-development-update/
Alright, fair enough, and it would garner enough hype to push people towards the SD2 if it does actually happen.
>No one gives a shit about the ROG Xbox Ally
Not the point. They're going to stick it in stores so that people who also peruse the Playstation and Nintendo aisles might mess around with it and these early discussions about it are at least getting common people to speak about it instead of just enthusiasts. I don't expect it to sell well but it'll sell something.
>And no one is buying them
This doesn't matter. The point is that that section exists at all is free advertisement for Microsoft to push their Rog Ally reskin which Valve would not get when pushing the Steam Deck 2.
>Steam is huge
It doesn't matter. What matters is actually pushing the device and with how they present themselves they would be put into PC sections or in a section that denotes an enthusiast device like the Meta Quest 3 already does. I don't know how to simplify this more for you.

>>721390485
>if I can get your game anywhere else, why by PlayStation hardware
Because your options are Switch 2 or nothing. PC gaming isn't what console gamers want in terms of a setup and people already on Playstation don't want to lose their libraries. I agree with you that both Microsoft and Sony went full retard in making their exclusives multiplat, but at this point your option for non-PC gaming is either the Switch 2 or the PS5 and the Switch 2 is absolutely not going to have cutting edge modern games with modern graphical fidelity on the thing. As it is Star Wars Outlaws is pretty pared down and Elden Ring looks like some in between of PS4 and PS5 performance.
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>>721390868
Unless they out windows on it, it wont run cod or fifa out of the box
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>>721391121
Get windows on it. Fucking autocorrect.
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>>721390868
The steamdeck does not have a relevant amount of users. It exists to piggyback off the popularity of the highend stuff and will die a pathetic death on its own.
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Perfected marketing to retards, then taught publishers just how stupid the audience was and how best to rip them off.
Knowingly sold a defective console to millions. Had to be sued into doing something about it.
Pioneered paying to use your own internet, which as become standard. Pioneered wildly overpriced DLC. Pioneered shipping broken console games and patching them later.
Nearly killed Japanese console games in the late 2000s trying to hurt PS3.
Lied their ass off about Kinect. Tried to force it on everyone anyway. Tried to force always online consoles.
Fired everyone they had who knew how to make games.
Tried to play good guy when they lost everything.
Goodbye Xbox, you piece of shit.
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>>721374036
sorry about your mom anon
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>>721389628
>3 months of no sales = breaking records
Stop just reading article titles
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>>721372526
Go Woke, Go Broke
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>>721372842
They announced this a while back with that "This is an Xbox" ad showing people using everything but an actual Xbox saying "This is an Xbox" which came out around the same time they were in talks to allow Steam on their consoles. They want you playing your games across all platforms.
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>>721390964
>It has visibility. it literally still has sections in stores. You can walk into basically any big box store right now and there are still Xbox sections.
No one gives a shit about Xbox anymore, only Switch 1/Switch 2 and PS5, Xbox is dead.
>Alright, fair enough, and it would garner enough hype to push people towards the SD2 if it does actually happen.
Pretty much, if the Steam Frame didn't happen, chances are this wouldn't be happening, glad it's happening.
>Not the point. They're going to stick it in stores so that people who also peruse the Playstation and Nintendo aisles might mess around with it and these early discussions about it are at least getting common people to speak about it instead of just enthusiasts. I don't expect it to sell well but it'll sell something.
And people will look at it and ask why get this when the Switch 1/2 is cheaper.
>This doesn't matter.
It won't come close to the Steam Deck's number and when Microsoft's partners releases the ones with the next gen Xbox's chip, it will be crushed by the Steam Deck 2.
>It doesn't matter
It matters a lot, Steam crushes Xbox on PC. When this baby hits the broad audience, it's over.
>Because your options are Switch 2 or nothing
Your options are Switch 2 or Steam Deck, soon it will be Switch 2, Steam home console, and Steam Deck 2. SteamOS is console-like and console players don't need to worry about the Desktop Mode if they don't want to use it. It'll feel like your usual console, but you can go beyond that if you want. Steam home console and Deck 2 will also be cheaper than what Sony and Microsoft are cooking up.
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>>721372526
Good. Xbox sucks and Microsoft is evil.
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>>721391121
It's mainly a dev decision, Halo works on it despite not working on it originally.

>>721391250
It's an experiment.
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>>721390386
>It has no equivalent in the console space
Why you think Sony is making a digital only handheld lol

>Switch 2 isn't aiming for its general fidelity
You think of all things this is what matters when PC exists? Nintendo played a different game and Sony got outplayed
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the economy is imploding rn, Microsoft is going to go software-only and start publishing on Switch2 as well.

you'll see an Xbox streaming app on both Switch as well as PS5/6.
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>>721372526
Xbox and Microsoft have done nothing good for gaming. In fact, they have hurt gaming with making paid online and paid dlc popular
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>>721372526
>trump presides over the death of another american company's manufacturing handing the monopoly to foreigners episode
How does he do it?
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>>721391807
but it's fine when nintendo does it right?
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>>721372932
Me, I only use it for gamepass and the backwards compatibility, I will probably skip next gen and go full pc (I dont like sony's games and will only think on buying a switch 2 once it gets hacked)
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>>721372842
No we don't. Streaming is still shit with massive input lag. Screen Clarity is better than before but at same time worse as games use temperatura blurry AA.
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>>721391546
>No one gives a shit about Xbox anymore, only Switch 1/Switch 2 and PS5
It still has an ecosystem of like 30-40 million people and even more if you go further back that have Gamertags and purchases tied to them. I'm not denying Xbox is on its way out, I am telling you that there is still a market there that Microsoft themselves are trying to attract.
>And people will look at it and ask why get this when the Switch 1/2 is cheaper.
Well yeah, I'm not saying it'll sell well, I'm saying that in general it'll get far more leverage in the public space because they have visibility in stores in sections people specifically look at for gaming and an existing ecosystem people are invested into.
>It won't come close to the Steam Deck's number...
I'm not arguing against any of that, both the Rog Ally reskin and their future handheld will 100% flop, anyone with a brain can see that coming from a mile away. My argument here is stemming from the fact that Xbox has visibility in shelf space and the retail sector while Valve doesn't have that luxury. They do not have physical games to prop up an aisle, they do not have major accessories like third-party controllers because they're a PC, and they do not have general third-party accessories because it's a PC. They're at a disadvantage compared to Microsoft trying to actually attract people on the retail level.
>SteamOS is console-like...
Yeah, but you need a Steam account and are starting your collection fresh in most normalfag cases unlike with a Switch or PS5/6.

>>721391671
>You think of all things this is what matters when PC exists?
Yes? Normalfags are very tribalistic about this. They want high graphical fidelity and no setup. The Switch 2 is still being viewed like the Switch 1 was when the PS4 and Xbone were still the main focus. It's a side device, it's not your "main" console. Newer major releases like Star Wars Outlaws and Elden Ring are also showing that this is likely to be the case going forward.
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>>721391629
>if they fail it's because they didn't try
>they'll succeed next time for sure just give it 2 more years

Most reasonable shill.
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>>721392105
Deck 2 isnt coming out until 2028, so yeah!
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>>721392132
Plenty of time for you to buy the rope after it bombs.
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>>721391873
holy shit shut up fuckwit no one is talking about nintendo, it's not fine when anyone does it
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MS already tried to gain a foothold on Nintendo's platform, it was the basis of that weird deal around 2019 where MS and Nintendo supposedly had a partnership but it basically amounted to MS porting old xbox games to Switch and nothing else. They were stonewalled by shrewd japanese businessmen who were wise to MS' Acquire Integrate & Absorb strategy. Xbox will never have an app on Switch 2.
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>>721372842
Isn't Ebin Games trying to do something like this but exclusively for Fortnite?
Unfortunately, the trend of having a smartphone as your only device is increasing, and with that much money on the table I do think we'll get more Stadia-like solutions in the future
I guess I've been doing the same thing myself, have a Windows PC running Steam and Sunshine with dummy HDMI and mouse attachments, and play my games on the iPad or my mini PC/thin client running Linux
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>>721392418
I have no idea how Xbox as a brand works going forward. Nintendo and Sony don't want a Game Pass app because it will heavily affect their bottom lines (Or even directly interrupt PS+ Essentials) so that means Microsoft is stuck to whatever devices they make (Like the Rog Ally reskin or that standalone handheld that may or may not be cancelled) and pushing stuff on PC. But since Microsoft would lose a lot of its leverage now that it's exiting the console market it might be significantly harder for them to make deals to justify AAA games releasing on GP or even releasing their own games on GP.

They're in a lose-lose situation of their own making because they only survive on PC.
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>Yes? Normalfags are very tribalistic about this. They want high graphical fidelity and no setup. The Switch 2 is still being viewed like the Switch 1 was when the PS4 and Xbone were still the main focus. It's a side device, it's not your "main" console. Newer major releases like Star Wars Outlaws and Elden Ring are also showing that this is likely to be the case going forward
I've seen Sony fanboys cope about this for generations now and it's getting silly now, I told them with NS1, we're getting all the games that can run on the system. NS2 will get pretty much everything like GTA 6. Why you think Rockstar is porting RDR2 over GTA 5 Because it's more modern and speeds up the GTA 6 port. And T2 saying "Nintendo ain't the kids console and we're gonna support" it? Because they already supported NS1 and plans were already in place for Switch 2.
Tens of millions already only owned NS1 and same will be true for NS2. So if Sony fanboys buys Nintendo but the opposite isn't true. I pretty much never hear Nintendo fans talk about Playstation in any manner, main or side console because they don't own one. Why would they when PC gets everything + PC exclusives?
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>>721372526
bruh will the new games stop supporting xbox controller?
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>>721392132
2027, that leak from Kepler came from a secondhand source. They don't know Valve's plans at all, Valve is signaling 2027 as the year as they stated they have hardware to announce once again on their anniversary, 2026, last time they did this, which was in 2021, they announced the Steam Deck.

>>721392105
Valve intentionally sold a low number of Steam Decks along with only selling it on their online store to test the market. They've been slowly opening their markets since then with multiple tests. They're now ready to get real with their next hardware ecosystem.
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>>721393480
Sure thing boss.
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>>721392737
The guys buying FIFA, Madden, Mortal Kombat, GTA, Call of Duty, and so on aren't doing it on Nintendo consoles. They're doing it on Xbox and Playstation because that's where they get the best visuals for little effort and not spending what they perceive as thousands of dollars on a PC they have to play in a different room instead of on their couch.
>will get pretty much everything like GTA 6
I don't doubt it, but it'll be at worse performances or visual fidelity which triggers normalfag autism. It'll likely also be after the initial release period. The Switch does not have the same market as the other platforms, just look at how Ubisoft games sell on Nintendo systems vs. other platforms. People don't want pared down versions, it's why the SeS is constantly getting clowned on as a platform, why the Xbone got clowned on, and why both the PS3 and Wii got clowned on. People do buy the various pared down ports, but it's typically not in the same ballpark, just look at The Witcher 3.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/witcher-3s-sales-by-system-how-the-game-has-sold-o/1100-6475832/
>Why would they when PC gets everything + PC exclusives?
People who are Nintendo-only are typically Nintendo-only, not PC + Nintendo. The people here do not represent the average consumer, not in the slightest. Even considering PC gaming is not normalfag behavior unless you're genuinely a Gen Z gamer and that's primarily to play Minecraft and Roblox rather than gaming in general.
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>>721391406
>AI slop
Lmeow
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>>721372526
BREAKING NEWS

PHIL SPENCER COMMITS SUICIDE CAUGHT LIVE
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>>721393617
>article from 2020
>When switch was still growing
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>>721372526
Couldn't Microsoft wait until GTA 6 to pull their Xbox? GTA 6 was supposed to be Xbox's savior, with it being a normie magnet.
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>>721392101
>It still has an ecosystem of like 30-40 million people and even more if you go further back that have Gamertags and purchases tied to them. I'm not denying Xbox is on its way out, I am telling you that there is still a market there that Microsoft themselves are trying to attract.
That numbers about to tank. Steam's ecosystem eclipses that and will grow even more.
>Well yeah, I'm not saying it'll sell well, I'm saying that in general it'll get far more leverage in the public space because they have visibility in stores in sections people specifically look at for gaming and an existing ecosystem people are invested into.
Steam Deck is barely in retailers and it's still the go to PC handheld, slapping an Xbox on one does nothing.
>Xbox has visibility in shelf space and the retail sector while Valve doesn't have that luxury
Xbox's visibility died after they Xboned themselves.
>Yeah, but you need a Steam account and are starting your collection fresh in most normalfag cases unlike with a Switch or PS5/6.
Only console you don't need an account on is the Switch 1/2. Not an issue.

Sony and Microsoft were able to enter gaming with killer apps for the PSX and OG Xbox, why couldn't Valve do the same?

>Normalfags are very tribalistic about this
Not him but normal are the most disloyal fanbase and will drop you on a dime if something else catches their interest. They would go for the most affordable along with the most shilled. If they're not interested, that's fine, they can leave gaming any time.
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>>721392629
>I have no idea how Xbox as a brand works going forward
It doesn't, Microsoft is going to kill it.

>>721393601
It's happening, trust the plan
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>>721393872
Those are the only numbers we have that provide a direct comparison like that that I can think of offhand. Ubisoft doesn't provide any numbers to compare that I can easily find, EA doesn't, most numbers that do pop up are from "I made it up" VGChartz, and since around the Switch 1's release many companies they've taken to combining every platform's sales including PC making it impossible to tell what sells as much.

https://nintendoeverything.com/more-capcom-sales-data-leaked-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-trilogy-dragons-dogma-onimusha-hd/
Capcom's leaks are the only one that give us a decent breakdown of the split and it's fairly divisive or sometimes massive in the case of things like Dragon's Dogma.

If you've got any other comparisons I'm all ears.
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>>721393924
MS has been trying to end Xbox for years, it's people like Phil Spencer keeping it on life support by begging to let it continue. Xbox since the original Xbox released in 2002 has never ever even made money. To MS Xbox does not matter at all, it's just a money pit.
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>>721393924
Microsoft has no faith in Xbox, it basically died the moment Sony cut ties with Linux. Microsoft has always wanted to get rid of Xbox because it wasn't the console they wanted. What Microsoft actually wanted is what Valve is doing with Arch Linux with the SteamOS. Making a first party console that runs a consolized Windows. When the Xbox team went away from that, Microsoft wanted to get rid of it but didn't mainly because it was keeping Linux gaming from picking up. When the PlayStation was no longer a threat to Microsoft, they since wanted to kill it since the Xbone.
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>>721372526
>costco
who the fuck shops at cosco besides old people
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can the xbox fucking DIE already so champ Gabe "Gaben" Newell can launch the god damn killer console Steambox with all pc game off eternity on it pl? ty
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>>721394557
2027, trust the plan
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>>721394459
Literally everyone nowadays.
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>and that's primarily to play Minecraft and Roblox rather than gaming in general.
Bro, what year do you think it is?
Nobody is buying a PC to play fucking Minecraft and Roblox, those games are on consoles already, and are extremely popular on consoles.
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>>721372932
I got a SeX back in 2022 when it was the only one available for purchase because of the chip shortage, after having skipped gen 8. I used it to play a lot of shit i had missed thanks to backwards compat and gamepass. But I have barely used it this year.
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>>721394557
Steam Machine 2 is still far away; Valve is still going for VR/XR thingy.
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>>721372526
Good job Phil.
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>They're doing it on Xbox
Not anymore lol

>The guys buying FIFA, Madden, Mortal Kombat, GTA, Call of Duty, and so on aren't doing it on Nintendo consoles
Keep coping

>I don't doubt it, but it'll be at worse performances or visual fidelity which triggers normalfag autism. It'll likely also be after the initial release period. The Switch does not have the same market as the other platforms, just look at how Ubisoft games sell on Nintendo systems vs. other platforms. People don't want pared down versions, it's why the SeS is constantly getting clowned on as a platform, why the Xbone got clowned on, and why both the PS3 and Wii got clowned on. People do buy the various pared down ports, but it's typically not in the same ballpark, just look at The Witcher 3.
But in reality NS1 outsold PS4 by tens of millions and it's still selling just like NS2 will outsell PS5 or PS6. Nintendo did that mostly with exclusives and now they're getting all the normalfag third party games that they care about.

>People who are Nintendo-only are typically Nintendo-only, not PC + Nintendo. The people here do not represent the average consumer, not in the slightest. Even considering PC gaming is not normalfag behavior unless you're genuinely a Gen Z gamer and that's primarily to play Minecraft and Roblox rather than gaming in general.
Even kids are growing up with PCs, don't act surprised when they only buy Nintendo when it has all the games they want
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>>721372932
I have both. Enjoy them both. And Sony is notorious for plaguing this board with shillbots. Don't read too much into it. Anytime something is in the news about any console, the board explodes with pro-Sony posts anti-everyone-else posts. They're pretty blatant.
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>>721393689
Cute cope. That "AI slop" knows more than you ever will. The Shitch 2 flopped
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The funniest part of this post is it's actually a supply shortage. Yes, I know that sounds hilariously cope. Which is why I said it's the funniest part. But, it's 100% true. Xbox has been having supply shortages since Christmas.

You can google it. There's tons of search results talking about it.
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>Steam Deck is barely in retailers and it's still the go to PC handheld
Handheld PCs are still ultimately an enthusiast platform despite Valve's very impressive sales just limited to their own storefront. It's also functionally a brand new ecosystem for people to jump into since Steam is more synonymous with PC gaming and most people might not even have an account.
>Not an issue.
It's an issue in the sense that people are resetting their entire ecosystem. They have zero games going into it whereas on their Xbox or Playstation they have thousands of dollars spent. Hell, it's one of the main reasons Phil himself cites for Xbox's downfall.
>why couldn't Valve do the same?
Valve doesn't have the output to do so. They rely almost entirely on third-parties and produce next to nothing in-house. Sony, Microsoft, and Sega all had consistent first-party releases. I do think Half Life 3 would get even casuals into it because of the sheer fact it's being released (Kingdom Hearts 3 also had this effect), but I think in general it'll be harder for it to find retail presence unless it's put together with PS5s and Switch 2s. It has to be in those sections right next to the Switch 2.
>and will drop you on a dime if something else catches their interest
That ultimately depends on their investment into said brand, especially if they have spent thousands in the brand or their friends are there.

>>721394935
I never said they weren't popular on consoles, I'm saying that Gen Z and Alpha are both sticking more to PC gaming and smartphone gaming over consoles and playing Fortnite, Roblox, and Minecraft as their main games on them. This is even reflected in data
https://sqmagazine.co.uk/gen-z-gaming-platform-preferences-statistics/
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>>721372526
I still see Xbox shelves at my local EB games and most stores I've been into. I highly doubt Xbox will disappear any time soon. Also now that we know Sony's exclusive titles will come to the Xbox and Switch we now know the exclusive wars matter less than originally thought. They still need to course correct from a lot of the missteps lately though. Cancelling their first party games like Perfect Dark was a bad move.
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>>721395784
They've just stopped making them willingly.
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>>721374338
that's a man
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>>721373497
Microsoft doesn't need consoles. They are a software company. They have Windows, which is what basically every gamer uses. All they need to do is make Xbox a licensing thing for hardware manufacturers to make their own consoles that play PC games. Basically like what handhelds are doing but with home consoles.

All consoles are just simplified PC's now. They all use the same architecture and hardware manufacturers. There is no need for them to be proprietary devices like they were in the past.
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>>721372842
THIS TIME WILL WORK FOR SURE BROS
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>>721395784
>>721396228
I'm not going to sit here and fight with you faggots all night. You're perfectly capable of using Google and finding discussions, reasons, and production numbers. You'll have to take out your Switch2 and PS5 buyer's remorse on someone else.

>www.google.com
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>>721374953
What good is a console when there are no games period? We get like 2-3 good games a year now. The only worthwhile gaming device is one that can play old games.
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>>721372842
FUCKING RETARD AHAHAHAHA
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>>721395080
>Keep coping
You're not even giving me any arguments to counter this. The major normalfag brands are pretty much never in Nintendo's favor. This is like the only thing I can find for FIFA topping any charts and it was solely for UK boxes copies and it was about 22% of the total sales of the game meaning it sold 78% everywhere else.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/12/uk-charts-mario-kart-8-deluxe-still-leads-for-switch-in-another-positive-week
>NS1 outsold PS4 by tens of millions and it's still selling just like NS2 will outsell PS5 or PS6
and? It can sell well, that doesn't mean that that's where people want to be for those games specifically, especially when they're typically worse versions than their competitors.
>Even kids are growing up with PCs
Like I said >>721396047, they're growing up with PCs but it seems to specifically be aimed at things like Minecraft, Roblox, Fortnite, and other games they play with friends on. It's not their primary system and they bounce around between console (No specific brand) and PC interchangeably with mobile taking up their most time.
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>>721372842
What exactly would be the benefit of this considering I already can buy an Xbox and purchase digital games that download fast as fuck because of my internet connection?
I mean seriously, if I have to buy a console to play cloud games there's no point, if I don't have to buy one, they already offer a cloud solution for game pass, so nothing would change. It's over for them.
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>>721372526
They never even tried to replicate what made the 360 so successful. Phil Spencer took over and gave up immediately and kept making excuses.
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>>721396747
>making excuses
he only people makign excuses are the people who acepted his ideas, top of microsoft and board directors

thats what happens when you dont understand what you invest into, you roll a dice. should have been better at telling the mids form the good ones.
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>>721372526
>Somehow luck into finding people to design the slickest best console ever
>Completely piss it all away as usual
Microsoft is truly a blight on this earth. I think the industry would be in a far better place if they folded with the xbone. One giant festering pool of smelly jeet middle managers
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>>721372842
>Unironically the next console gen is going to be cloud gaming
Tell me what's gonna change, there's already game pass with cloud gaming on any device.
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>>721376743
33 million sales and they gave up, Nintendo sold 13 million and they still kept trying until they found the biggest success in the industry. Maybe Microsoft should try fucking anything before giving up again.
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>>721395784
Fact is normies love GamePass like they love Netflix. They love that business model, even more-so with GamePass because games are so expensive now. Nintendo and PlayStation can not compete with GamePass. So Xbox is soaking up all the people that aren't hardcore gamers on the edge of their seat for the next AAA release due out in 4 years. Those causal gamers make up the majority. And they don't spend all day on /v/. I easily believe that Xbox is far more popular than this board would have you believe.
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with xbox out all playstation has to do is reverse the multiplat decision and offer a (actually affordable) handheld ps5 to japan and they have the industry locked down

but because the retarded investors need line to go up they will keep chasing short term profits over long term gigaprofit
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FUCK Phil Spencer, the absolute worst thing that could have happened to Xbox, with their fucking "long term" strategy that they can't fucking sustain for more than a couple of years.
>le "power of the cloud"
>dropped for "most powerful console in history"
>also dropped for a cheap accessible Xbox series S
Anything but having games I guess.
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>>721396434
>There is no need for them to be proprietary devices like they were in the past.
There absolutely is and wanting everything to have the same things is a massive detriment to the video gaming landscape. It's why Sony opting for multiplats on their first-party titles is a terrible idea. It's why people who just want gaming to be PC-only are probably some of the worst people for the hobby. You should be actively pushing for PCs and consoles to coexist, for there to be at minimum two exclusive consoles out there, and for there to always be exclusives that force you to buy each brand's systems.

Exclusivity and consoles bring competition, bring niches to your various platforms, it allows games that wouldn't get visibility on other platforms to find a home on your platform, and it allows for brand new ideas to take hold on your home platform and spread from there. Soulslikes as a genre would not exist if not for Demon's Souls' exclusivity and the Playstation brand being a place where lesser known JRPG ideas could be floated. The pretty big success of DeS led to Dark Souls' creation and the rest is history. Another simple thing is companies like Wayforward who owe their success to Nintendo specifically or Squeenix and Capcom who owe both Nintendo and Sony for their continued existence.

No one should be pushing to make gaming into this singular platform monolith, it will stifle success and game creation. The Switch 1's release is the perfect example of this where indies that couldn't find success at all on Steam found actual success on the Switch because it had next to no games on the eShop, high visibility, and allowed their brand to grow instead of being stifled by the extreme difficulty of getting into PC gamers' eyes.
https://nintendosoup.com/blossom-tales-has-sold-20-times-more-on-switch-than-steam/

The Vita and its VN/DRPG scene would have died instantly if those devs went to PC, but they flourished on Vita because of the small ecosystem and niches.
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>>721396843
The Series X is just a huge joke, when it released we already knew it would have 0 exclusives, at least the Xbone tried to do something and people still had faith because of the 360.
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>>721397275
>ps5 to japan and they have the industry locked down
It's already too late, Japan loves Nintendo and they won't go for another option because it's not just the handheld thing, it's the games and Nintendo being an actual Japanese company, not a corrupted California one.
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>>721380989
So you like AAA slop. I see.
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>we actually have the technology this time
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What does Xbox even do? Do they still have Gears of War?
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>>721372932
my wife's uncle does
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>>721372932
I do but I don’t play it much anymore
I swapped to PC last summer
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>You're not even giving me any arguments to counter this
GTA 6 is the most hyped game of all time and somehow the portable version isn't gonna sell on the market leader console? Okay bro

>and? It can sell well, that doesn't mean that that's where people want to be for those games specifically, especially when they're typically worse versions than their competitors
Clearly it is, especially now when Playstation doesn't have exclusives.

>they're growing up with PCs but it seems to specifically be aimed at things like Minecraft, Roblox, Fortnite, and other games they play with friends on. It's not their primary system and they bounce around between console (No specific brand) and PC interchangeably with mobile taking up their most time
Which is why Playstation is dying. No exclusives, no reason to buy the console and Switch 2 got all that plus third party.
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>>721381237
Awwww they didn’t like Charlie? boo hooooo, fucking retard. Can’t believe how mind numbing Americans are, the average iq is in the gutter.
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>>721372842
no we don't. The input delay is still there.
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>>721397358
No one cares except Nintento. Microsoft stopped caring about exclusives years ago. Sony is catching up now and doesn't care either. They both see the writing on the wall. I don't like the phrase "consoles are dead" because it implies failure. It's not a failure. It's just that technology has gaming moving in a different direction and consoles as proprietary gaming devices will be a thing of the past. We will still get a new Xbox and PlayStation next gen, but it's not going to have a disc drive and a bunch of exclusives. It will be more like a Roku hosting different gaming services.
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>>721381025
this but with nintendo desu
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>>721397389
It's crazy how there's no exclusives and they don't fund anything interesting. A similar ITX case for a PC, just the case, costs more than that entire console. It's such an elegant design I still remember the shameful PS5 teardown idk why they even forced that poor Japanese guy to do it. It was obvious he wasn't proud of the guts.
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>>721396047
>Handheld PCs are still ultimately an enthusiast platform despite Valve's very impressive sales just limited to their own storefront. It's also functionally a brand new ecosystem for people to jump into since Steam is more synonymous with PC gaming and most people might not even have an account.
Valve's going to change that with the Steam Deck 2.
>It's an issue in the sense that people are resetting their entire ecosystem
You either start over or get ready to spend $700+, for Microsoft, they're more likely to kill your backlog like they did in the past.
>Valve doesn't have the output to do so
They will and this a sad excuse given that neither Sony or Microsoft had any either. All you need is one game to put you on the map.
>That ultimately depends on their investment into said brand, especially if they have spent thousands in the brand or their friends are there.
It depends on the price, despite having the backlog, people weren't in a rush to drop $500 or $600 for a PS3 over a $300 and $400 360 along with a $250 Wii.
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>>721398651
>Valve's going to change that with the Steam Deck 2.
It's gonna be even more niche because the novelty is already gone.
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>>721398054
>Which is why Playstation is dying
Brother they’re literally the biggest gaming company on the planet. First party doesn’t matter if you got a deal with Rockstar promoting their game. They are above Tencent and Nintendo combined in revenue.
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>>721398054
>somehow the portable version isn't gonna sell on the market leader console?
Did I say it's not going to sell? No. I said it's not going to sell as much as on the consoles that tout graphical fidelity, especially since Sony in particular is pushing it hard as their "exclusive" game and it's likely to only com eout with the PC release. RDR1 doesn't even have sales figures for the Switch 1 that I can find and that was not only a big game, but on the best selling platform ever. We don't even know if it outsold the 360 or PS3 versions.
>Clearly it is, especially now when Playstation doesn't have exclusives.
You don't even have examples to prove your point. Sony itself has Rockstar pretty much making the PS5 its target system.
>No exclusives, no reason to buy the console and Switch 2 got all that plus third party.
To normalfags this does not matter, stop viewing this as an informed consumer. To a normalfag their buddy is on the PS5 so they get the PS5. To a normalfag they see Sony advertising GVA6 so they buy it there. Why would they wait an extra year and buy it on the Switch 2? To a normalfag they're buying FIFA, Madden, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, and GTA on their systems and they want them to look pretty and actively argue about how pretty they look.

The Switch 1 already exists, it already has these mythical third-party games that the PS4 and Xbone did and those versions did not sell as well as on those platforms. Why would this be any different for the Switch 2 when it's facing the same visual fidelity and performance issues for the general public?

>>721398239
>No one cares except Nintento.
Which is why it's a big problem for everyone. Sony chasing short-term profits is going to cause issues down the line, especially since they've already alienated their Japanese playerbase quite heavily. I genuinely can't understand this mindset because you're causing a lot of damage for your brand for little to no reason chasing the multiplatform userbase.
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>>721397389
GamePass is, for all intents and purposes, and exclusive. It's also the best exclusive on any system on the market right now. Right now, there's 37million active GamePass subscribers. Last year, it was 34million. In 2023, it was 32 million. That means not only is it significant, but it's growing. Xbox isn't dying. It's consumer-base is increasing year over year. And no one actually complains about Xbox. The only people attacking it are Sony and Nintendo shills. You rarely hear anyone with an Xbox say it was a mistake.
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first xboxu now nintendo with their game key cards. playstation is the last man standing.
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>>721373480
hating on the ps3 god you are a troon
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>>721399035
Xbox is going to be a publisher only, in a year you’ll see game pass subscription on PS5. Microsoft cares about money, and their ips selling like crazy on ps5 is all that matters.
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>>721386210
We have one, it does what a mini fridge does. Got it on clearance and no complaints.
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>>721382715
I feel steam deck 2 and steamOS is gonna be huge. I sense it coming and with hl3,deadlock, who knows what else.
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>>721381025
>there's no reason to buy a PS5
I want to get the tomba collection edition and the castlevaine one and soul reaver
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@colteastwood if you are lurking in this thread tell us how to cope.
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>>721397389
I really don't know what they were thinking. You can tell the Xbone was the real last Xbox. PS3 may have been the end of the line for the real PlayStation but at least Sony was smart enough to know what people wanted for the PS4 until they went to shit with the PS5.
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>>721399103
nta but ps3 was one of the worst consoles to ever come out. It's the entire reason the nogames meme started.
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>>721382715
>t mainly depends on if Valve's home console
thread all about how consoles are dead but if my steam console happens
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I bought one wanting to return to console a bit, but the experience is nothing like it was and Halo Infinite was garbage.
I sold it, bought a Steam Deck and have been happy since
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Steam is gonna take over the American gaming market , Xbox is finished.
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>>721398352
When you start looking beyond your console, it's over for your console.

>>721398824
Wrong
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>>721372932
I had one in the first year of it's life. Only because both it and PS5 were impossible to get at the time and I tried to get either whenever they were available. I was somehow able to get a series x. I sold it after like 4 months when I decided to just build a PC instead.
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>>721399314
>tomba collection
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2851150/Tomba_Special_Edition/
>castlevania
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2369900/Castlevania_Dominus_Collection/
>soul reaver
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2521380/Legacy_of_Kain_Soul_Reaver_12_Remastered/
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the fact that idiots think the steamdeck will do any sort of real numbers is funny
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>>721398943
Cope

>>721399008
>No. I said it's not going to sell as much as on the consoles that tout graphical fidelity
You say this like Xbox isn't dead and PS4/PS5 sold nowhere near NS1. Almost like that graphical fidelity market went to PC. Sony talked about this in the past, it's why they started doing Pro versions to try to stop it from happening.

>To normalfags this does not matter, stop viewing this as an informed consumer. To a normalfag their buddy is on the PS5 so they get the PS5. To a normalfag they see Sony advertising GVA6 so they buy it there. Why would they wait an extra year and buy it on the Switch 2? To a normalfag they're buying FIFA, Madden, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, and GTA on their systems and they want them to look pretty and actively argue about how pretty they look.
It does though, it's why Playstation lost.

>Why would this be any different for the Switch 2 when it's facing the same visual fidelity and performance issues for the general public?
Sony couldn't compete for the last 8 years, their most well known game this generation was Concord. They'll keep losing
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>>721399383
It was a great console managed terribly
Just like the Vita.
Sony instead got stuck playing catchup to the cancer that was and is Microsoft.

>>721399438
Play Mercury Rising I and II
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3021510694
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>>721399383
you are a fucking idiot, i dont care about stupid memes
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Still my favorite brand of all time.

Haven't paid for a game in years, based game pass
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>>721379852
The Xbox "brand" will persist in some ethereal form, but Xbox as a console line is absolutely on its way out. I give it one more generation.
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>>721399730
>it's why Playstation lost.
Lost what?
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>>721372932
No, I was going to get an xbone but since they started going all in on pc it was just one less console to pick up. I have switch, pc and ps5
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>>721397285
Was Don Mattrick really that much better? he just got lucky to have landed a job when the xbox 360 turned out to be a massive success. I don't know if there's any correlation towards whether the company would have been better steered by Mattrick over Spencer for example. Although he did want to see Sunset Overdrive 2 and Scalebound become real games, so he deserved some credit for that I suppose. At least I wanted those games.
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And you're an overly emotional faggot. I know being poor and brown is hard but go suck a dick and calm down or something
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>>721399048
>SXSG is 22 gigs on Switch 2
>Max Switch 2 card capacity is 64 gigs
>It's still a GKC
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Next xbox will be straight windows pc with full backwards compatibility with xbox libraries. Tho I worry about the price, they should negotiate a deal with steam or straight block it, I don't want to pay 1000$ because of steam. Planning to use it as a pirate machine anyway
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>>721399541
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2851150/Tomba_Special_Edition/
https://superdeluxegames.jp/en/collections/ps5/products/ps5-tomba-de
>castlevania
https://superdeluxegames.jp/en/collections/ps5/products/ps5-castlevania-ds-de

soul reavers got no cool collection
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>>721399873
Lost his mind crying about how playstation lost obviously
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>>721400138
No, it does have a collection. Look at the link I posted
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>>721399873
Gaming market share
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>>721399917
I am not, your a meme sprouting dipshit that I guess was a baby when the ps3 was out or poor and just whines about something he didn't have, I dont like xbox's never brought them so I cant really talk about them yet you who's never had a ps3 thinks he can talk, then says stupid shit like 4chan said nogames
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>>721400018
According to the Star Wars devs, the streaming rate of assets from a switch 2 game card is way to slow for modern games, which is why they went with Key card.
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>>721399696
Yeah, and PC gaming was dead bro!
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>>721400252
What? If you're talking about revenue across every platform combined then everything other than mobile is irrelevant.
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>>721400241
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/257103576386?_skw=soul+reaver+ps5&itmmeta=01K5T83RGWAQ45P4XTXTYEYX2Z&hash=item3bdc913d42:g:vy0AAeSwxm1owyHO&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1e5bOmR1hbWNdhdJxciYU4xBc6s6Mcx5DaIGz6YZcEL1EuAklwI%2B%2BB1AQ8jLwcv73ZJe%2F5HIYVVBls6ywsKMi2vuamSSoTJdR3oKEI3AkiS14vEZ29RjUMgxMfib7QjrOKfi2wwFfkcafJQplOMazTFeDQXm2xJXcGrq7mz1eIHTSyabe8IN8OEKe%2BiKK75BA9YHy5BolipoQLAozDMjvF2KgCmyJrI4jc5u5bwNelAUjYHR%2F%2BDHvhq1zhzm%2FFEEARtLgWRzaPh%2FDmZtEkvqoanGNaDpvQRkcf%2FBlsAr01C6Q%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9iIj8iuZg
got this would look much nicer on my shelf then hidden in a steam folder
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>>721400357
I was 2 years out of highschool when PS3 came out and you are still an overemotional brown faggot
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How do we cope about the recent price hikes tho? They are trying to squeeze as much money for the nextgen and nextgen would be the regular pricing?
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>>721400252
It’s literally the biggest gaming company.
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>>721400376
they are not the samething
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>>721400043
As cool as it would be to have a PC I could stick my XB/360 discs in and have them play, there's no way in fuck MS would do something like that. At best they set them up as digital purchases in the MS store, that can only run on the specific systems.
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>>721399802
>>721400357
Calm down lil zoom, there's no need to be so mad. I get that you were a toddler back in the day so you don't know about the reputation the ps3 had but that's no reason to sperg out.
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>woke company dies
good
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/browse/transgender-and-non-binary-communities
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>>721400435
OH EM GEEE YOU ARE SO RIGHT XISTER, I'd put it next to my Funkopop and anime babes (uwu) figures, then everyone would know I'm quircky gamerman when they come over to visit!
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>>721399460
This is true and when it does the Linux Market is going to jump massively, The industry is ill prepared for Valve basically enforcing a new standard that they control. Microsoft losing was the best thing to ever happen to videogames and the world.
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>>721399414
Yeah, I know, I feel like the Steam home console is more and lines a bad idea and hope it got canned. I don't see people being interested in a $600-$700 home console that while cheaper than Sony's PS6 and Microsoft's neXtbox, it's still expensive and a Steam Deck 2 would be more impactful as home consoles are going the way of VR. But hey, Valve is doing the Steam Frame still so who knows. What makes me believe the home console may not happen is there is no leak images of it like there is for the controller and the Steam Frame.
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>>721400438
so your poor and couldn't afford it
>>721400561
I wasn't, I dont care about the reputation from trannies and pedos wait thats the samething
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>>721400435
>anon is a co.uk immigrant
it all makes sense now. Leave the Brits alone, Jaspret
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>>721372932
I got a Series S at a pawn shop after I pawned a bunch of shit my old room mate left. I like playing Halo Infinite, Rocket League and some other free shit on it :\
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>>721400568
All of the current console manufacturers would need to die to get rid of LGBT. You need to remove the pride shit from the business world in general.
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>>721400743
Is there any reason why you're so mad? Is it because you live in a third world slum?
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>>721400728
>Steam home console is more and lines a bad idea
its a shit idea and just like the deck wouldn't really sell anything, valve is stuck to steam and maybe making shit games that dont sell like there new shilled shooter game
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>>721400743
I was 20, living on my own and making $17 an hour at the time which is like $30/hr nowadays. I had every console you could imagine. Ps3 had the least amount of games by far, and the only reason anyone bought it in the first place was because MGS4 was exclusive to it. Little Big Planet was fun, too. Once again, you're a faggot and certainly brown.
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>You rarely hear anyone with an Xbox say it was a mistake.
I've already said it >>721382617. The Xbox is a mistake and a waste of your money past the 360 era. Unless you are a dudebro normalfag or don't care about owning your games it's objectively the worst of the three consoles in terms of UI, controller, and the general ecosystem. Microsoft alone is keeping controller technology in the past by not having gyro at the bare minimum.

Game Pass is a mistake for the consumer. It devalues games, makes it harder for anyone to stand out meaning only the big indies and AAA studios get a spotlight on them, heavily pushes AAA games, is a subscription service so you don't own anything, constantly gets games taken off of its service, and continually raises its prices because it's unsustainable. You as a consumer get rushed into completing games and are constantly given choice overload due to the catalog. It's only worth it if you genuinely can't afford games even at sales prices but in the long run you won't own anything by doing so which is what everyone is coming to terms with with Netflix and co. falling off.

>>721399302
>in a year you’ll see game pass subscription on PS5
Sony and Nintendo have zero reason to allow it. Even if they would give Sony/Nintendo 33% of the subscriptions on those platforms it directly conflicts with PS+ and NSO respectively and it causes a boatload of issues with the sales of games not only on their platforms on the digital side, but also the physical. Accepting Game Pass on your platform is just killing your market for no reason.
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>>721400915
I dont like liers like you
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>>721401061
4chan was a lot better when your country didn't have internet access (you probably weren't even alive back then)
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>>721400753
a paki is not buying fucking soul reaver
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>>721401061
what's the lie? That ps3 had objectively fewer games than the other two competitors? This can be confirmed with a simple search.
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>>721401168
Sure thing goat fucker
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>>721401168
Being a Paki is honesyly more enticing than being a Britoid nowadays.
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>>721401030
had all this money had all the consoles
yet dont know the the hidden gems just say two big games, god if anyone asked you whats good on the xbox you'd say halo
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>>721396608
>>721396907
Abdul (12 y.o.) from Malaysia can now play AAA games on his shitty Xiaomi because paying something like 5 dollars a month for GamePass is cheaper than owning a console or a gaming PC
For multiplayer games like Gaypex, Faglorant: reduces cheats like wallhacks or anything that requires memory exploits
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>>721399730
>and PS4/PS5 sold nowhere near NS1
https://sonyinteractive.com/en/our-company/business-data-sales/
>PS4 - More than 113.5 million
That was with 2020 numbers, I can't remember if the system production was sunset or not. That is still an enormous amount of sales.
>PS5 - 56 million+
This is with April 2024 numbers. Sure, neither are Switch 1's 150 million numbers but the amount you are downplaying this is insane.
>Sony talked about this in the past, it's why they started doing Pro versions to try to stop it from happening.
Their fear was people going to PC. That has since stopped being a fear of theirs because they've been porting games to PC for at least two or three years now like retards.
>Sony couldn't compete for the last 8 years, their most well known game this generation was Concord.
Helldivers 2 is literally one of their top games that exploded on all platforms. They are still somehow selling over 50 million PS5s despite having basically nothing on it but multiplats.

Stop acting like someone who only gets their news and video game knowledge from shitposting with people and start acting like someone who considers the general public in your arguments instead of enthusiasts like people here. The general public are not jumping to PC en masse, Gen Z are playing consoles and PCs more or less equally, consoles are still several billion higher in profits than PC despite the amount of people on Steam and other platforms as of 2024 and the projections going forward are still pointing to it being in the lead that I can find at least.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/gamesindustrybiz-presents-the-year-in-numbers-2024

Seriously, why does this have to be a console war thing? Why can't you acknowledge how each sides has their own strengths going forward and also weaknesses due to preconceived notions or simple market factors?
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If Xbox SeX is dying does that mean the console price is gonna fall?
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>>721376451
>Image
Whore is already on break.
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>>721401598
besides Tokyo Jungle, there were no hidden gems that weren't also on xbox
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>>721402201
Maybe? If they stop making then suddenly the price may spike for a bit first
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>>721402325
yes folklore the xbox game
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>>721401598
>doesn't deny being brown
you're a subhuman with subhuman opinions
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>>721402508
You didn't play Folklore at launch, you're googling shit now to win a internet argument that's been settled for ages. Concession accepted.
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>>721402573
being called brown is like being called a gay it means not a lot to me
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>>721402646
I played fucking sonic 06
I played that shit lair
I played that shit heavenly sword didn't beat it cause it sucked cock
I found demon souls watched its trailer 20 times then brought it off play-asia cause I wanted it so much
folklore is not a hard game to find when you brought like every sony game at the time
I brought fucking super rub a dub, flower and fat princess and that asteroid shooting space game
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>>721372842
We had the technology then, but we still don't have the internet infrastructure.
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>>721400990
Looking back, Valve back in 2022 seemed excited to come back to that but as of 2025, it sounds like the home console thing got pushed in the back and isn't a top priority. Steam Frame and Steam Deck 2 along with that Steam Controller, the Ibex, seems to be their priority at the moment, along with Half-Life 3. I think not focusing on a living room PC is a smart move given where gaming is headed.
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>>721372842
yeah man playing my hatsu mika project diva on the cloud will be so fun and not laggy at all
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>>721372842
based and rent-extraction pilled
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>>721372526
Almost like they went two fucking console generations without any fucking video games or something. Are they really surprised that nobody is showing up to buy their multiplat machine when you could either:
buy a ps5 and have a couple exclusives
or
get a fucking PC
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Never cared for the Xbox but things were so much better for us consumers when all companies were fighting over us.
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>>721372526
>Be gaming console company
>Your objective is to get people to buy a console worth several hundreds of dollars
>Have exclusives?
>Not any more
>Good for third parties?
>Nope
>Is it the best specs/price ratio?
>Nuh uh
>Is there any reason to own your console at all?
>Nadda
Who is actually surprised by this? Xbox used to fill out the important boxes for consoles with exclusives and good price-spec ratio and being the best for 3rd parties. Then suddenly they just decided to do the opposite for some reason.
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>>721403215
They never think of rhythm games at all when discussing cloud gaming, it's always niggerball, ubislop or indie platformers
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>People on /v/ bought an Xbox because their contrarian brains couldn't handle Sony being popular
>Their console dies

Kekkkkkkkkkkkaro
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>>721403305
It's not even about exclusives. Xbox doesn't get third party games that even nintendo gets. It's a below second class gaming system.
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>>721403463
they dont think about anything cause most of these ppl are steamies and they dont play fucking any games
like why would you even wanna play hollow knight on the cloud it makes no sense to even want to cloud game
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>>721403554
also xbox killed buying games on the system now its wait till it comes on game pass
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>>721372526
The 360 is such a cool console that it makes me sad to see the current state of Xbox. It's easy to imagine what it could've been if they didn't spend the last ~15 years being so fucking retarded
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>>721372842
Not as long as there is still 60 ms ping (=120 ms delay on your actions).
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>>721403370
Based Gwen chad with the truth nuke
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what's going to happen to my achievements bros.....can i turn them into trophies or steam achievements
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>>721403576
It's for people without a console or gaming PC
Don't be surprised but a lot of cloud gaming's target audience only have a smartphone and maybe an iPad
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>>721403689
Or wait, ping is there and back right?
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>>721403692
when it's game over, your gamer score resets to 0
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>>721403434
I don't even get what Phil was trying to do because it seemed like he never committed to any one thing. The Japanese market in particular was fumbled so badly when it's a very important market for you to at least get third-parties from. Sure, the Capcom leaks showed Xbox players bought them in really low amounts, but this could have at least been corrected by having consistent support for them and funding Japanese exclusives. They were already doing this in the 360 era pretty heavily and got Cave (Or was it Treasure?) on board along with the Indies program getting people invested as well. They even had niche games like NieR on their side so I don't understand why they'd give all that up. He made a half-hearted attempt early on in the Series generation but then immediately gave up.

There's this huge chunk of the market they outright do not have and it took years for Taiko to come to them at all just as a basic example. Even then the actual Xbox version has insane input lag that no other version does.
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>>721403703
so theres no market for it
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>>721385139
>that thing shelfwarmed like mad to the point that it was $350 and still not leaving their stores
We saw the GamersNexus video.
Asus has a NEGATIVE reputation and has been fucking people over for almost a decade now.

There is a reason no one wanted it, it's better to make Asus eat shit and take the L than have one.
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>>721403980
https://tech.yahoo.com/gaming/articles/chance-stay-roblox-gen-alpha-232629036.html
Most of the Gen Alpha kids are arguably the market.
>"The entry barrier on PC is lower than console, because in most families, there is already a computer, there is a laptop," Rosier said. "But the other thing is that the younger players, they play the free-to-play cheap games that can run on any device. You don't need a GeForce RTX 5000 to play Roblox. You just need a browser."
They're primarily just using their phones or very lower powered PCs to play things like Roblox and Minecraft and genuinely do not care about visual fidelity or performance.
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>>721372932
Yeah, most games I want to play are on it and I also have retroarch and xbmc installed. Right before PS5 prices went up I got a slim because I have lost all faith in microsoft. I got a set of the indigo chroma faceplates too. I still play what I have but don't intend to buy anything else for the SeX out of principle.
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>>721372526
OP is probably lying, not even a source URL.
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>>721372842
Go ahead, I'm out. I have no further reason to buy consoles beyond collecting the old ones.
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>>721372526
Last time I went to Costco they told me I'm not allowed to pay with anything but mastercard and kept pushing me to sign up so I dropped my groceries and left. Are they still doing that shit?
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>xbox dies
>all the cancer they introduced to vidya stays
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>>721375024
>no regular company would have survived the ps3
Get a load of this retard. Ever heard of the Wii U?
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>>721375853
>Competition in theory:
Companies vie for more customers with competitively lower pricing, better features etc.
>Competition in reality:
One company waits for the other to do something hyper jewish and predatory, then immediately copies them. If you can't beat them join them teehee.

This is hell.
We're in hell. Gaming is dead.
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>>721375024
>no regular company would have survived the ps3
yes no company would want a 100mil selling console
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>>721404725
playstion and nintendo did wait sometime before fucking the player with paying for online
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>>721379413
But sony = playstation? You are so fucking retarded
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>>721372526
>dying
That shit died point blank during E3 2013.
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>>721404825
Sony didn't at all. The instant they saw the xbox get popular despite paid online they rushed to get in on that on the PS4.
Nintendo waited a little while but playing older games is locked behind a subscription in a subscription for fucks sake. They're not innocent at all.
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>>721404676
Nintendo still had the 3DS doing fairly ok and while the Wii U was a total failure HW-wise the games didn't do all that bad relatively. They sell their consoles at a profit, which helps too.

PlayStation with the PS3 was billions of dollars in the red. They didn't make a profit that entire generation, the first year of PS3 alone erased every single cent of profits the PS2 and PSP had made until that point.
If the Wii U lost money on this magnitude, Nintendo would 100% not exist as they did. Sony could only survive the PS3 because of their parent company.
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>>721404494
Well at least they won't be able to introduce more cancer.
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>>721373615
PlayStation is owned by Sony entertainment which is very much an American company too anon. Obviously Sony is japanese but the company responsible for gaming is american.
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>>721372526
They're going to just slowly leave the industry, aren't they? I was hoping for a massive announcement that would cause an ESL mass suicide.
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>>721406205
It's likely they just turn into Sega. They have too many brands and companies under their belt now to just shut down, they can push Game Pass onto Windows users through ads or the Microsoft Store (Which they are now forced to interact with), they can make games to sell on every platform (Game Pass is "free" obviously), they can fund small and large projects alike, they're not beholden to the Xbox "push" anymore so they can do some things more freely, and they still have major brands like Call of Duty on their end.

I think they'll be fine and they'll pivot Xbox to being a PC thing or an app once all is said and done and you'll see Xbox on Steam Decks and stuff like that.
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>>721398054
GTA 6 won't be on Switch 2 nigga
it'll be
>PS5, XSeX
>PC
>PS6, XSeXXX
>PS7 with the Definitive complete edition in 2036
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>>721403370
True, 7th generation was a mistake
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>>721400727
based futuresight bro.
we see things don't we.
gabe about to do a power move.
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Consoles will probably die next gen. More people are getting PCs which can play all the new and old games.
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>>721407191
>Consoles will probably die next gen
It's very unlikely that happens even within the next two generations because PC is only getting larger on the cheap budget end, not the gaming end due to the newer generations of kids playing less intensive games. Console gaming is still an enormous part of everyone's gaming life.
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>>721407191
>PCs
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>>721372526
and it was murdered
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>>721372842
Google Stadia worked fine on my first world connection.
Problem was third world internet providers like in the USA, with their "limited data usage" even on cabled comnections. Like, LMAO you retards. Move to a better country. Lol
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So, what happens to gaming after the high-end side dies?
>next gen Xboxes will be unaffordable
>PS6s will be unaffordable
>desktop GPUs and gaming laptops will be unaffordable
Will normalfags fuck off and gaming gets reduced to just Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 with people sticking around with gaming going for these cheaper more affordable options for 10th gen gaming? Real answers, please.
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>>721372526
>saying Xbox - brand
>saying PS5 - console
>saying Nintendo - brand
Fucking inconsistent faggt
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>>721407503
steam.
the future is steam.
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>Nintendo is dead
>Xbox is dead
Sony bros... we won
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>>721407263
Sony won't be able to figure out a way to cool down stronger consoles with just one cooling fan.
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>>721407503
I'm expecting $600 consoles maximum because anything more than that is absurd for anyone to be expected to pay especially after the Switch 2's absurd $450. Even $600 is absurd and Nintendo itself has already admitted the $450 is going to be pricing out children for example so I can't imagine Sony going that stupid to go 599 US dollars a second time.
AAA starts toning it down because for the past few years they've actively been saying themselves it's unsustainable. Either that or their bubble pops, whatever is first.
Normalfags will get pissy but they'll likely have to accept the changes, as it is Silent Hill f is apparently already running at 720p upscaled to 1080p/1440p/4K and people are taking notice of it.
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When Dreamcast became Sega's last console, no one was screaming that all consoles were dead.
Why is /v/ such an exaggeration?
Is it because Xbox is an American brand?
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>>721408086
Its big in a power vacuum of Microsoft stepping out of it. yeah. that and its interesting to see if steam will do anything.
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>>721372526
>Sony is dying
>Xbox killed itself
Fucking hell, Nintendo with zero competition is never at its best.
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>>721372842
>but we actually have the technology this time
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Gen 9 has been the biggest advertisement to just get a PC of some kind. Desktop, Laptop, Handheld, whatever. It's better than the current options console-wise. None of the current exclusives are worth paying $500+ for, and you can get a PC for less than that.
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>>721388614
BeamNG
MSFlight Sim
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>G-guys, it's not just Xbox that's dying, everyone else is too
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>>721407191
PC can't play new games while also being affordable. The cost ratio is too out of whack for it to be a viable gaming platform. PC is only for old games.
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>>721408776
Dude, my 3770 and Ryzen 5 3600 can't even keep up 60 FPS in Wuthering Waves let alone Marvel Rivals at 1080p and I paid $1000ish for this around 2021 or 2022. Just to upgrade this thing to do so would cost in the ballpark of $500 to get a Ryzen 5 9600X, a new mobo for said CPU, and a new PSU. What kind of computer do you think you can get for $500?
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>>721372842
Most people use WiFi and on WiFi, even streaming steam to your TV can be too laggy for action games
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>>721407838
>$600 consoles maximum
You're smoking crack, Xbox Series X is already $800, PS5 Pro is either getting bumped up $50 or $100 as Sony plans to inflate the price more like Microsoft just did. PS6 is going to be either $800+ or $900, next gen Xbox (non-OEMs if it happens) will be $1000 or $1000+ while the OEMs will also be expensive. $450 is going to look like pocket change by 2027. Nintendo will release a $100 cheaper Switch 2 Lite. Most of AAA will die while others will get smart and tone it back, but now they will be gauge on whether they're woke or not.
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>>721374718
Wii was the winner and ps3 had second place. 360 was only selling in US and even there it was 3rd.
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>>721407492
Based Comcast saving us from cloud gaming.
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>>721409091
My 2019 PC can, and it cost less than $500. Got it just before the crypto boom. But you can get a Steam Deck that'll run practically anything if you know what you're doing.
Get gud is basically what I'm saying or pay out the ass like a retard.
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>>721374718
Wii buckbroke PS3 and Xbox360 so hard, that they came up with their own Wiimote rip offs. Xbox got buckbroken so hard that they bundled Kinect with the Xbone.
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>>721409568
As ass as the Kinect was, it was actually a massive success for the 360. Look up the numbers.
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>>721409407
>know what your doing

AKA running at 360p and avoiding most new titles. You're a fucking retard.
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>>721409298
>Xbox Series X is already $800
For the 2TB version, not the 1TB. 1TB is like $550 or $600 after their hikes and that's caused enormous outcry for it.
>PS5 Pro is either getting bumped up $50 or $100 as Sony plans to inflate the price more like Microsoft just did.
Yeah, and people were already feeling priced out of the original Pro. I'd love to see how these price increases are harming their sales because they've been awfully quiet about them since they started doing them.

>>721409407
I meant a 3070, not a 3770, whoops.
>Got it just before the crypto boom.
Your opinions are irrelevant then because you've never dealt with current prices and I very much doubt you're playing at a consistent 1080p 60 on either of those games even with DLSS and stuff on medium. My GPU alone is the price of a PS5 and it's considered a "budget" GPU now. Unless you are willing to buy some used GPU like a maniac that is roughly how much your GPU alone will cost. This is sorted by lowest price by the way.

That CPU I mentioned is considered a "Budget friendly" one at $200. The PSUs that are 750~w start at $150 unless you want Chinese house fires to grace your PC for $60. The mobo I was looking at is an MSI Mag x870 Tomahawk and that's in the $200 range because I don't want just 2 SATA ports. If you want 2 SATA ports you can get a mobo for about $100.
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>>721408776
The overwhelming majority of people already have a PC you mouthbreathing retard. Who do you think buys all the hundred million laptops and MacBooks annually?
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>>721410064
I made the PC myself using coupons and discounts and some sales from NZXT. Speaking of, you can get a pre built from them for not much more than a PS5 or XSX right now.
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>>721410262
An NZXT prebuilt for 500$ doesn’t even have a dedicated GPU
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>>721373478
Is this an XBOX?
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>>721407080
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised since that new console and its specs were leaked awhile ago. The Future is Valve atleast for the American Market.
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>>721410142
Most don't use those crappy Chromebooks or Macbooks for gaming. If they do, they also likey eat struggle meals like Ramen Broth microwaved eggs.
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>>721410064
>For the 2TB version, not the 1TB. 1TB is like $550 or $600 after their hikes and that's caused enormous outcry for it.
Xbox is dead.
>Yeah, and people were already feeling priced out of the original Pro. I'd love to see how these price increases are harming their sales because they've been awfully quiet about them since they started doing them.
Microsoft and Sony no longer care about hardware sales, they care about multiplatform now, Switch , PC, Cloud, each other's platforms. This means you should expect very high prices from them next gen because they're no longer focused only on their own platforms.
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>>721410345
I didn't exclusively use NZXT in 2019 when I made my PC. I just used them to get some discounted parts.
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>>721410395
>Most don't use those crappy Chromebooks or Macbooks for gaming.
They absolutely do, this is even reflected in the link I posted >>721404269.
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>>721410542
I'm think it's safe to say it's not most. A significant amount? Sure, but not the majority.
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>>721372842
>but we actually have the technology this time
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>>721380343
The full clip of this gif never fails to amaze me, the security detail is so fucking inept they basically just lead him along the pie procession.
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>>721410368
I don't think the Fremont is happening, it could happen after the Deck 2 or it may not happen at all. Valve at first seem interested in revising the living room PC in 2022, but this year it seems to be of low priority with the focus being on SteamOS on PC handhelds and Steam Deck 2. From leaks, Steam Frame and Steam Controller (Ibex) are also of high priority. The kind of pushed the living room PC into the dock, so my guess is, they will allow the Deck 2's dock to boost its performance like the Switch 2.
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>>721372526
They never recovered from losing Timdog
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>>721410686
Why did the Belgians pie him?
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>>721410395
What do chromebooks and MacBooks have to do with anything when more than half of Steam users are turd worlders being unable to run games made after 2015?
You should be more worried about the 200 million consumer computers being sold not bumping the Steam numbers and still being stuck at 140Million MAU in 2025.
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>>721411160
I'm not worried. All I said was that any person not getting a PC instead of a Gen 9 console is a retard.
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I find pc gaming offers too many distractions for me. I need the console and so I don’t get the urge to jerk off or watch YouTube.
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>>721411392
What you said is oxymoron and borderline retarded. Most people already have a PC, and most likely some sort of console as well. I have a PS5 and 2 computers including a Mac and a Windows desktop. why do I need a third one specifically for gaming?
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>>721372526
Guess that's why Phil looks like shit at the Kojima event.
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>>721411392
It's the most cost effective way to play hard to run new games with a resolution larger than a post stamp. PC got too expensive to be worth it.
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>>721411392
Consoles are not only cost effective compared to a PC but it's very likely their friends are on it too and it's far more social if a friend comes over and you boot something up on it. There's also the fact that until consoles get rid of physical copies you objectively have more ownership on consoles short of piracy. If you pirate everything then yeah, PC has the best form of ownership, but not everyone is a pirate nor views that morally right.

I will continue to buy games on console until they stop physical copies and then I'll see where I go from there, likely Steam Deck 3 or 4 or something, but I also like trophy hunting and PC achievement systems are by far the worst out of everyone's because they have no difference from saying you just cheated them in.
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>>721372526
Erm actually do you see all those TVs back there? Those are Xbox’s
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>>721389260
Xbox wants to move away from hardware entirely. Gamepass is the first step
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>>721411762
>Consoles are not only cost effective compared to a PC
At this point, that's no longer true
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>>721412432
It has always been true. Once you need to upgrade your 500$ GPU with another 500$ in 4 years time you’ll also need to move from AM4 to AM5 and that means new CPU, new Mobo and new Ram.
Which is another 500$ expense.
You need a whole new computer after a console generation. Not just a GPU
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>>721412614
I think you people over exaggerate how much you need to update PC parts. To justify getting a console, it's kinda silly.
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>>721412916
Please don’t tell me you’re still using the ryzen 5 1600 from 2018 with your brand new rtx 5060 or god forbid 5070/5080 due to Nvidia cucking you to 1080p with limited VRAM
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>>721372932
Yeah, I like mine, the only thing it lacks are extremely weeb games
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>>721372932
yea it's the better option if you are a poorfag cuz game pass
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Intel Core i5 9400F with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660
It's been able to handle anything I've thrown at it.
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>>721413892
>>721413187
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After that OD trailer, they deserve it. That trailer made me OD.
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>>721413892
At upscaled 360p* like the series S does
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>>721374338
who?
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>>721414339
Trailer was so uncanny. I wish I could punch Kojima in the face.
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>>721382871
This misconception is likely due to at least everyone in the friend group knowing 2-3 people in it that had it, and as it was 4 player they'd play it.

As a huge Nintendo fag at the time, PSX felt like a miracle to me because of the size of the library and how cheap the games were.
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Is Microsoft the most retarded company in existence
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>>721372861
That's why Sony destroyed their business for Bungie products not just once, but twice (Firewatch Studios)



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