>>721380059
It would likely be boring

>>721380059
>Why can't we play directly as best primarch
That's not Khan or Sanguinius tho

>>721380059
Primarch are too OP, it would have to be some kind of boss rush game of Guilliman fighting greater demons, Norn Queens, war bosses, other Primarchs etc. Guilliman is just an extremely smart stronger , faster, and bigger version of a space marine

>>721380059
Isn't he just a politician in armor?

>>721381880
>Isn't he just a politician in armor?
He's unironically hypersonic and he can lift several tons. There's nothing "normal" about the Primarchs. They're all demigods

>>721380059
No mere mortal besides Malcador could run an intergalactic empire full of retarded and paranoid zealots while also being a military commander.

>>721381880
He can survive in space without a space suit and punch through power armor with his fists

>>721381880
He's the closest thing to a protagonist that that franchise will ever.

>>721381880
He's the only guy that's trying to unfuck the Imperium, which is definitely easier said than done.

the only correct type of game for these guys is musou series.

space marines, let alone primarchs, should be only lore entities and never directly involved saved for the rarest and briefest appearances.
this would improve the setting dramatically
being seen as divine beings while also being the only ones adhering to imperial truth and being conflicted every time they do anything would be kino.
the more we know about them the less impactful they are.
I feel like fans have ruined them.

If we play as Sanguinius/Lion/Khan/Vulkan/Horus/Leman then
It will be like Devil May Cry/Metal Gear Rising/Ninja Gaiden. They all use swords as main weapon.

Issue with other Primarchs is that they are not combat focused.
Gulliman here is good statesman, Perty is a mechanical + computer engineer. Dorn is a civil engineer. Ferrus makes weapons. Angron is too retarded to have a game lore accurate. Konrad is punisher+ Batman so maybe. Lorgar is shit. Magnus is a mage so that doesn't work.

You can have games with Primarch but it has to be high stakes where you mostly beat down demons.

>>721380059
>>721385712
40K Musou actually sounds kinda okay

>>721386785
The Imperial Truth was a lie my dude

I just want a game were I can play as my own space marine and go on cool adventures

>>721386796
Konrad game would have been pure cinema, especially if you embrace the Night Haunter and Konrad being two different people angle.
>Nostramo childhood where you Batman your way through endless misery and urban decay
>Navigating his horrific visions of the future
>Manhunt tier executions as he slowly works up the Nostramo scum totem pole in his teenage years
>Seeing the city transform from a crime riddled shithole to an orderly, if terrified place
>Ending the game with the arrival of the Emperor where he speedruns the Horus Heresy in his mind's eye and lets M'shen kill him.

>>721388115
of course the emperor was a retard
im still sympathetic to what he was trying to do and think it would be badass if you had a group of fanatical adherents

>>721388115
>>721388525
also its not really a 'lie', one can theoretically just disbelieve chaos away.
if he had succeeded and managed to make it stick with out underestimating humanities need for diety the imperium would look way better

>>721380059
40k damage just by looking at the enemy

>>721381880
He's Space Marine Julius Caesar
If all the primarchs have a different aspect of big E, Rowboat Girlyman has his administrative/logistics skills.

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>>721388115
It isn't, it's an ideology of perspective. It's taking the stance that things like psychic powers, the warp and the entities within it are not "magic" or "gods" but real phenomenon that can be studied, understood and controlled.
Bile is one of its few remaining followers and he is objectively correct. Warp entities, even ones as big as Slaanesh do not possess free will. They are not sapient beings imbued with traits derived of emotion, they are emotions manifest. Slaanesh can never choose to do anything but what it is essentially programmed to do. It's like expecting a rock rolling down a hill to consciously decide to stop, turn left or roll back up.
That doesn't mean it isn't dangerous, or that you can't communicate with it, but it isn't a living thing in any sense of the word. It is as in control of its own actions as that rock.

>>721384002
there's dozens of characters who have novels novels focused on their escapades. Ahriman has 5 books just about him.

there's lots of "main" characters in Warhammer because in a setting at eternal stalemate, every faction has potential to take over the galaxy if they just got that edge

Girlyman probably feels the most protagonisty because he invented the Primaris, the worst thing introduced to the setting

Only cool thing he did was let the Emperor hijack his body while in the garden of Nurgle and burn half of the place to the ground.

>>721390859
This is just predeterminism, the idea that there is no actual randomness in the universe, simply interactions we don't understand and that all actions, thoughts, and anything that happens is a consequence of molecular interactions that were always going to happen. People that belive in this, or belive there is randomness but ultimately anything that happens was going to happen anyway and there is no real free will for anything or anyone.

>>721386785
hard to do that when there's hundreds of space marine legions
i know the universe is big but it would make you think "what the hell have these guys been doing!?"

>>721391513
I personally agree with determinism but the IT isn't that. The IT's main thing is trying to strip away the reverence and mystic aspects of things like psykers, daemons and the warp. It is trying to entirely eliminate the concept of the "supernatural" and all the connotations that come with it. They're a natural phenomenon like any other. The Emperor is essentially trying to get people to stop worshiping warp phenomena in the same way we used to worship phenomena on earth like the sun, weather and oceans. It is only our lack of understanding of these things that makes them seem like unstoppable, insurmountable forces.

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I wanna fuck a Sister in a Castigator

>>721380059
Alright, what's your idea for a good Primarch based game then?

>Joboute Girlyman

>>721394403
A kart racer

>>721391290
>Primaris, the worst thing introduced to the setting
Why's that?

>>721380772
>too OP
>gets taken out by assassins
nah

>>721380059
total war 40k soon, trust

>>721394403
Dance Dance Heresy

>>721380059
Primarchs are gay marvelslop for secondary fans.

>>721386785
Thats how every single franchise works.
SCP was a microcosm speedrun of the effect. Same with backrooms.
Retard fans will always seek to put their stupid bullshit front and center. But it sucks any mystery or intrigue or interest out of the setting. Boiling it down to 3 page wiki articles that have every possible fact and tidbit about everything codified and open.
I don't even truly blame GW for the state of things. I think this is just how every single long running franchise ends up.

>>721380059
Jewdubs made all this lore about the imperium's top dogs and proceeded to adapt none of it

>>721396145
Primaris marines are just "better space marines"
They were effectively made so GW could refresh the marine model line with an in setting excuse. But what actually happened is that they invented "better space marines" then had to go back and make every important character survive the "actually super dangerous and probably won't succeed" primaris upgrade process.

Basically imagine that DC made a new IP and it was called "Better Batman" and it was just Batman but he also had laser eyes and could fly. Thats Primaris.

>>721397010
PrimarchGODS run this franchise, cuck

>>721396589
>he wants the shitters that work at the sock puppet corpse of CA to make a 40k game on their shit engine
you really don't. wait for someone to come along and make a fan game at some point in the future. it'll actually be good and made by someone or people that actually like 40k.

>>721397475
>he also had laser eyes and could fly. Thats Primaris.
More like, he's slightly taller and has a couple of new tricks that he never really ends up using.

Necrons and their lore is the only interesting thing about this setting.

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Isn't he only kept alive by his armor because he got so fucked up by Fulgrim?

>>721398479
>Gay, slop enjoying, secondaries run this franchise
Yeah. I can tell.

>>721397475
They made better Batman and its kino

>>721398903
Originally yes, but I believe they fixed that later on.

>>721380059
They're too powerful for it to even be a challenge or fun
It'd be like getting the Force Commander unit from Dawn of War, giving him the combined health pools of every epic unit in the game, giving him attacks that deal good damage against all unit and building types, and then giving him double speed and no morale penalty
Plus spammable abilities depending on the type
>>721381880
The books are very fucky about Primarch power level and each one is different too
Fulgrim regrew a foot and survived a sniper round to the face, but Roboute could have been killed by a single fucking bolter round, and then Lorgar survived a fucking titan shooting him with its hellstorm plasma cannon, but then Roboute held his breath in the vacuum of space for like an hour also with his head exposed to space, and then Vulkan is killed a thousand times because he regenerates so naturally he gets no plot armor at all, and then Fulgrim is tossing around psychic blasts and ripping apart buildings no problem, Ferrus Manus got his head cut off from a single blow, blah blah
It's impossible to properly display their power levels in media and especially video games
Think like that one webm from Dark Souls III where they sped up Gundyr and you're close to how it would look
Just about the only thing primarchs are weak to is male pattern baldness

>>721380059
Which Primarch will return next? Awhile ago, some people were saying it was going to be Rogal Dorn.

>>721403470
They're going to reveal one of the mission ones and they'll be a female primarch and only produced female space marines
These would be able to breed new space marines which went against the emperors design that humans would rule and space marines would eventually be discarded like the tool they were
He had to kill her and the other primarch because they'd began breeding each other and their marines
So anyway they'll bring her back and she'll have the super knowledge that's greater than even the emperor and his sons gained from her time in isolation

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>>721403754

>>721403359
Vulkan can't die because he's a Perpetual like the emperor, you can vaporize him but eventually he'll just pop back up somewhere else, none of the remaining primarchs seem to be Perpetuals just Vulkan so he directly inhereted that trait from the emperor.

>>721380059
Because best primarch is dead

>>721403754
>Bring in female primarch
>Cawl locks her in a breeding machine and pumps her primussy full of genesneed for the next 10,000 years
based

Imagine how good the dick is.

>>721403754
Imagine if the female primarch created space marine by unbirthing and then rebirthing the aspirants haha

>>721380059
If it ain't Vulkan, it ain't worth speculating

>>721403956
Based.

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>>721388115
There is nothing there.

>>721397475
>meanwhile chaos chads get to have bigger minis without any cope

What is Horus BETRAYED the emperor and TRAPPED him on the golden throne for 10000 years(full story)

>>721380143
fpbp

a Gorillaman game would most be an X4-like or a RoTK-like

>>721381880
Girlyman has beaten traitors to a pulp in the vacuum of space without a helmet. Being a statesman is his specialty but he’s still a one man army like all Primarchs.

>>721403359
>Fulgrim regrew a foot
was he corrupted by chaos at this point? You said "foot" so he wasn't a snake demon back then
>Roboute could have been killed by a single fucking bolter round
I think that applies to all human primarchs, given the round hits the spot
>Lorgar survived a fucking titan shooting him with its hellstorm plasma cannon
Daemon Prince Lorgar?


Anyway, I just got back from a trip to an actual European country and brought with me 3 novels. Namely Assassinorum, The Infinite and the Divine and Leviathan. I'm about half way through Leviathan. Any tips for next ones after those 3? I think I'll try ordering somewhere online if they're not expensive. I heard Horus Rising is great but I don't know if I should go back that far back, If I did I'd get my autism want to do this chronologically and just start the Horus Heresy which is like 50 novels and that'd take forever.

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>>721380059
Best case scenario Guilliman will appear in SM 3 to save Titus from whatever version of Chaos they wanted to sell that week

>>721408169
Eisenhorn is great. Gaunts ghosts is quite good although the later books aren’t as good. Fire caste is great. Ciaphas Cain is good. The ahriman and Fabius bile series are good chaos books

>>721380059
Because Leman Russ is still lost in the warp

>>721388256
Ah yes, like how there isn't a harry potter game that allows you to start from a year 1 to graduation. One day we'll get what we want.

>>721380059
they never should have had any fucking primarchs brought back to start running around again to begin with

>>721408169
I second the Eisenhorn trilogy, it is definitely the best thing in the Black Library. Ravenor is a step down but ok and Bequin is... well it is there if you really like the characters or don't like them I guess.

>>721408169
Fulgrim was still human and this happened shortly after he killed Ferrus, as the legion started its descent into degeneracy
Lorgar was still a primarch back then also, he was protecting Angron and trying to cure his nails by turning him into a daemon

>>721387724
Yeah that could be cool

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>reddithammer fans are actually goycattled and zogslopped enough to look forward to gay workshop's plot developments
much more grim than anything in the setting

>>721409398
Why does Chaos get to keep it's Primarches? That's not fair.

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I just want a game that let's me romance a Sister of Battle.

>>721380059
Because world is not yet ready for basebuilding game starring Rogal Dorn

how does one explain russ and khan fucking around in the warp and webway for 10k years and vulkan never resurrecting

>>721409653
He says posting the redditfrog

>>721409704
because theyre mostly useless anyway. they turned the only competent perturabo into a demon too for whatever fucking reason

>>721410294
Vulkan just went to buy milk, khan is racing around killing elder, and leman Russ got lost and went to a furry convention

>>721408945
>>721409403
Eisenhorn seems great indeed. Plus I think the Inquisition is cool. Also Fabulous Bill is a great character when it comes to chaos and now I'm also thinking of the Belisarius Cawl book.

I'll come up with a list of great books for each faction and then I'll read them in the order of my most to least favorite faction I guess. I've already started with Space Marines so next up would be either inquisition or Necrons
>>721409565
Damn, power levels are really fucked up. Also random question, from what I know so far Lorgar wasn't that bad of a guy right? He was just retarded and wanted to make a religion out of the emperor and then Erebus fucked everything up by acting like 40k Jeffrey Dahmer

>>721380059
>4x game with RTS, RPG and Hack and slash elements
could work if you turn it into something like dragon commander

>>721410397
shit talking the hate symbol grenouille

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>>721380059
Because he's dead, bro.

>>721410510
Lorgar's primary sin was being slow. The worlds he conquered were obscenely loyal, but his legion was moving significantly slower than the other legions due to Lorgar's desire to spend time building up the worlds he'd conquer rather than taking a planet and moving on. The Emperor wasn't stoked on his worship, and mercilessly castigated him for it publicly, but he would have ultimately tolerated it for the duration of the Crusade had Lorgar been speedier with his work. Sad!

>>721381880
I mean, the guy inexplicably has to figure out why the imperium of man has a skull economy, but he is also literally the greatest ablebodied warrior they have. He could totally go back to doing his warrior shit if dad would get out of his chair or if Vulkan could just stop pretending to be dead for once & pick up some slack.

>>721411602
But if the Emperor gets up from his chair, he'll get attacked by the Grey Knights!

>>721380059
They'd never let you play as a primarch because you're supposed to be a grunt, especially a traitor primarch like Magnus as you suggest

>>721411602
>he is also literally the greatest ablebodied warrior they have
Didn't the Lion come back recently? He's duel circles around... well, basically any other primarch

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>>721411780
i don't even want to know what the terminus decree mcguffin will do

>>721411331
>All stats maxed out except for Loyalty
>Somehow, Loyalty broke the cap an was even higher

>>721412021
he also has new powers. i guess GW didn't like nerfing him ever so slightly for aging 10000 years so they gave him his own pocket dimension, the 'forestwalk'

>>721412046
I think Big E is pulling another prank, just to bully the Ecclesiarchy and the Inquisition again.

>My marvelslop replacement father figure is best
>No! MY marvelslop gay bear daddy is best!
Primarchs were a mistake.

>>721380059
because Fulgrim is too busy having sex to be the protagonist of a game

>>721412580
Fulgrim can't have sex with anyone but himself, you know that.

>>721409760
Guilliman, kill all the Sisters of battle, the Black templars and Grey Knights and basically the totality of the Inquisition.

>>721386785
I actually like that about space marine lore. They're halfway mythological to the average Imperial citizen, but the reality is they're just a bunch of quasi-autonomous paramilitaries with absolutely ludicrous warmaking capability but no real organizational structure beyond the individual chapters capable of pointing it anywhere useful other than cleaning up after everything's already beyond fucked. They're awe-inspiring to the people of the Imperium, but they're completely ineffectual and kind of goofy from a bird's-eye view, and that's the privileged position we get to look at their world from.

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what went wrong

When's my Trazyn game

>>721412782
No Tau or Dark Eldar to shoot. Also, the Death Watch are more interesting than the Ultramarines.

>>721412782
I played the Campaign and then uninstalled as I don't friends to grind this with so I haven't experienced ONE multiplayer mission. I tried but I got stuck queuing because someone would keep leaving or getting disconnected so in the end I was like ok fuck it and was even midday hours in Europe it wasn't some fucked up timezone on a Tuesday morning

>>721380059
I really wish you would get the fuck out of my game. Fucking retarded faggot.

>>721412906
Pokemon came out in 1998.

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>>721411602
>but he is also literally the greatest ablebodied warrior they have
Am I some kind of joke to you?

Could do a dynasty warriors styled game with Primarchs.

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>oh hey looks like Eldar got a new faction wonder what they’re up to Yvraine sounds neat
>practically killed off
Fucking GW

The custodes are just fucking stupid after the retcon

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>>721380059
I want a 40K game where you play as a dread. tutorial level is you as a space marine getting fucked up but saving the day during the Heresy. Then you awaken as a Dread and keep getting woken and put to sleep over leaps of time and famous conflicts, gaining prestige for your chapter while the player is allowed to customize weapons and armor and dread chassis for cool unlocks.

>>721380059
Bringing back primarchs was a mistake.

>>721411331
Knowing the current state of 40k, he's going to come back as the space marine version of Saint Celestine

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>>721414529
how do you unlock swimsuits

>>721414629
You cannot have every loyalist primarch magically disappear or die and keep Angron running around fucking shit up and Fulgrim and Magnus and Mortarion and not only that but 3 out of 4 of them are now chaos daemon princes as well

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>>721414736
They already have that.

>>721396145
Space Marines were always too small. In lore they tower over regular humans, but when it comes to models, not so much. GW had a perfect opportunity to release "true scale Marines." Instead they made it a lore in-universe thing. Making Primaris bigger in lore than the regular Space Marines made them still wrong scale.

>>721414782
Traitor primarchs were a mistake as well.

I just think Rogue Traders are neat.

>>721414757
First you have to unlock the secret beach level, then you beat it for the palm tree and bolter pattern trunks.

>>721414423
It doesn't even make sense, if the emps wakes up that means no more astromicon, which means super secret Titan and its silver faggots hidden in the Warp have no way to actually get to the Imperium for their retarded little faggot plan.

>>721380183
ANGEL FEMBOY IS DEAD ANON, just, just give it up maybe he'll come back in the future if the GW gods are merciful enough.

>>721398903
when he came back he needed his upgraded armor, but then he decided to just not die without it.
Basically, even the "tamest" primarchs have bullshit ridiculous hacks. Bobby is just one of the most down to earth giganiggas compared to other animu tier dbz primarchs

>>721414782
they should decide what to do with lorgar and peter, considering the absolute jobber state of every one traitor primarchs.
Unironically, daemonhood is a downgrade for their anime protag developement.

>>721415739
>Unironically, daemonhood is a downgrade for their anime protag developement.
What do they even do when they're not fighting? I can't see Angron not murdering and instead taking a shit and reading the newspaper or having a hallucinogen drink. Magnus will likely still be a dork but now he looks goofy while reading books though and Fulgrim now has another appendage he can stick in someone's ass I guess

>>721398903
After he was infected by Mortarion's Godkiller plague and the Emperor said "fuck that shit" using Robute as a Psyker conduit to not only obliterate part of Nurgle's Guarden but wound Nurgle directly, making Mortarion shit his pants in fear and run away like a little bitch, he now no longer needs his armor.

>>721415615
>capeshit
>DEAD

>>721380059
I have no idea why we can't play as best primarch. They really ought to just make a Corvus Corax game already so we can

>>721411780
Caldor Draigo could solo all the custodes, the sisters, and the god emperor with only 50% of his power

>>721416337
I would unironically play a Dorn sim where it's just an Imperial city builder

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>The Primarch designed to be a healer
>The literal physical manifestation of the Emperor's empathy
>Lands on shithole a planet as a baby
>Eldar assassins immediately show up to try and kill him to prevent a prophercy whicy states that this baby will become a Daemon Lord in the future
>The baby, named Agron, fights them off but is greviously injured
>Injured enough that cartoonishly evil slavers can capture him and force him to fight in a gladiatorial arena for their amusement
>Normally Angron would have been strong enough to fight them off but the Eldar fucking crippled him
>So he's forced to fight and kill people, which tears and gnaws at his soul as someone who is the literal embodiment of empathy
>Even so Angron defies his slavers and refuses to sink to their level of depravity
>So the slavers literally lobotomize him by driving nails into his brain and neural system to leave him a state of perpetual brain and aggression, a state where he can hardly even think clearly
>The procedure is so hardcore that Angron loses his healing powers and a huge chunk of his empathy
>Even so, Angron's remaining empathy wins out and he leads a revolt against the slavers
>But with a crippled body and a fractured mind, he isn't strong enough to win
>The rebellion crumbles before Angron's eyes until it's just him and his most loyal inner circle preparing to make their final, 300 style last stand against their oppressors
>The Empire shows up
>He negotiates with the Slavers, letting them get away with literally everything
>He hates you for being weak and he calls you a failure
>He snatches you away on the eve of what would've been your final stand, leaving you with the painful knowledge that everyone you loved died while you "abandoned" them
>Everyone on your planet calls you a failure and a coward
>The Emperor wants you to enslave millions of planets
>Your own legion thinks you're a failure because you're the only Primarch that didn't conquer his planet
It's literally not fair

>>721416610
It's fine anon the Grey Knights can now erase Chaos taint entirely

>>721416610
none cares

>>721416610
Also
>Finally die
>Your brother brings you back by selling your soul to the demon lord of war
>Now you're forced to suffer for all of eternity since you literally can't die
>Your brother, Guilliman (who got everything handed to him on a silver platter), calls you a childish fool who can't let go of the past
>When every literal second of existence for you is utter agony and you didn't even choose to sell your soul

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>>721416758
>none cares
t. Guilliman

>>721416610
>>721416807
Aaand another example of how marineswank ruined cool concepts like Chaos

>>721416610
All sympathy for Angry Ron's tragic backstory goes out the window when he orders the World Eaters to Butchers Nails themselves. It would be one thing if he said nothing while they mutilated themselves in an attempt to connect to their broken father. Angry Ron hates the Nails as much as he hates himself, and he still gave the order personally. That's a Primarch level dick move.

>>721416887
>when he orders the World Eaters to Butchers Nails themselves
It makes more sense when you realize Angron hated the Emperor, the Imperium, and even his legions. He never wanted to be a conqueror and oppressor like his slavers were, but the Emperor forced him to fight and conquer in his name.
Angron lobotomizing his army was done out of spite. There's a line in one of the books where Angron says he would've even without chaos or the nails fucking with his mind.
So Angron sabotaging his sons, as evil as if was, was really a fuck you to the Emperor, a way to cripple a part of the Emperor's armies.
>That's a Primarch level dick move.
100% he's still evil. His motives just make sense when you put them in context.

>>721416610
Almost everything about angron's backstory is fucking stupid and needs to be rewritten. Preferably by someone who isn't ADB.

>>721417592
>Almost everything about angron's backstory is fucking stupid and needs to be rewritten.
Why?
The concept of an empathetic healer being broken and turned into an insane berserker who can't even think clearly is a really cool concept imo. He's one of the biggest what ifs in the series simply because he could change so much in the plot if he wasn't mentally broken before the Emperor found him. The dude could literally take away mental pain with the powers he lost from his torture. That could've saved some of his brothers from falling. Or maybe he could've rebelled early because of his empathy and gotten himself and his sons killed? There's so many different ways his story could've gone if he wasn't fucked over from the start.
It's also kino how the Eldar created a self fulfilling prophecy. They tried to kill baby Angron to prevent him from becoming a Daemon Lord. But their actions ironically damned and put him on the path to becoming one. Because if the Eldar hadn't intervened, then Angron would've been strong enough to conquer his planet like the other primarchs did. More importantly, Angron wouldn't have had the nails, which means it would've been impossible for him to become a Daemon Lord of Korne.

>>721417860
It's a neat concept but the actual execution of it was pretty bad. Particularly everything that happens once emps appears.

>Angron somehow taking out a bunch of eldar despite being literally seconds old
>was then raised as a gladiator but kept trying and failing to escape from a bunch of regular humans as a fully grown demigod
>was also somehow knocked out and implanted with the nails despite the above
>led a rebellion but failed despite etc.
>then the emperor arrives to save angron but leaves all of his comrades to die for no reason
>let's the slavemasters who turned angron into a rage monster keep ruling the planet
>declares angron a "failure" but let him take charge of a legion knowing full well what he would subject his astartes to and the billions of humans he'd slaughter as a daemon prince
>and somehow couldn't remove the butchers nails when he fucking made angron and possessed god like psychic power

>>721417860
>Why?
>khorne's chosen champion
>is a whinning crybaby
Geee I wonder why

>>721419191
For your first few points, Primarchs aren't normal babies in the pod. Curze also had his burrow into the planet's core and he had to dig his way out. They're also not invulnerable, and without proper armour or weapons they can still be wounded/die relatively easily. Guilliman almost died to sustained bolter fire at an Alpha Legion assassination attempt.

As for the last bit, I like the theory (backed by some evidence) that the Emperor knew that half of the Primarchs would rebel. Possibly it was even a cost for their creation with the Chaos Gods. He just didn't know when, who or how, but when ahead with stacking the deck so that the traitor side would be filled with all the fuck-ups and shitheads. So the Emperor mistreating Angron may well have been a
>I'm 99% sure he's going to turn traitor
>May as well get some use out of him before the flip

>>721419780
Angron isn't even Khorne's first choice but Sangunius, who doesn't need to be lobotomized to be a berserker.

>>721420105
>For your first few points, Primarchs aren't normal babies in the pod.
Except they written like they are.

>>721380059
That's not The Lion

>>721381880
When compared to other Primarchs. But like all his brothers he's a demi-god of war

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>>721380059
>best primarch

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>>721411331
What that sick bastard did to bestboy makes me almost cry

>>721422598
>makes me almost cry

>>721380059
Cope. People played doom 1 and 2 for years.

>>721380059
Primarch fighting game when?

>>721383690
So he's Taft?

>>721422598
OMG NOOOOO! JUST LIKE IN THE FIRST ENDGAME MOVIE! NOT MY HECKING BOYERINO!!!!

>>721381880
Girlyman unironically has autism as a superpower, he can do all the calculus for moving fleets across the galaxy in his brain faster than any logic engine (a 40k PC)

>>721381880
Rowboat and by extension all Primarchs are superlative fighters, he's just maybe near the lower end of his demigod siblings in martial prowess by the time the Heresy started. Politics and logistics are his jam, the Ultramarines were the single biggest legion, and the only one that got a net gain in manpower by the time the Heresy ended despite some other retard (Peturabo) having the unique benefit of a lower gene seed rejection rate because he ran his legion like the Imperial Army.

>>721403754
The 'missing' Primarchs are both dead. They died during the Heresy, specifically the Rangdan Xenocides. It's implied that they both had their brains hijacked by the Rangdan and Russ had to put them down, with the Emperor forbidding anyone to talk about them to not bring attention to their failure.

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Phoenix Lords are cooler than Primarchs.

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>>721380059
Any chance for this fag to annex or genocide Tau once and for all, they're in his backyard, right?
Would pay a doom clone for it.

>>721411602
> or if Vulkan could just stop pretending to be dead
Cant wait for the day of shitstorm when they bring him full african american black, not just black.

>>721406660
chills

>>721420402
>the KHAN
>going anywhere near a psyker race like the eldar without intending to ram into them at mach 20
bro hated psykers so hard that is was tattooed onto his eyelids
and he was right, fuck you Magnus, you big dumb idiot

>>721406660
>Tries to be le enlightened athiest
>Slaanesh just giggles and shuts off his organs one by one

>>721430498
thats a small hindrance for the galaxy's top apothecary

>>721430902
Considering it drove him mad coping over the true masters of the galaxy, I don't think he took it very well.

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Love this whiny fag like you wouldn't believe.

>>721425824
You could remove eldar from 40k and it would there would be literally no downsides, in fact it would only improve things. Crawl back to /tg/ where you belong.

>>721380059
>Raw butt

>>721431643
I do except IW to get new figures when the next edition comes out. Plus I like their HH figures

>>721431793
the harlequins and their meddlings over fates is the worst faction in the setting

>>721432827
All of the eldar factions sucks and honestly 40k would be better off without them.

>>721433678
but i love my deldar

>>721433821
They're just diet Chaos worshippers. You could roll them into a Chaos army and it'd pretty much not change anything.

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You guys think GW would allow Gorillaman to make an appearance in SM3?

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>>721434287
It's almost guaranteed that he will. Titus is the new main face of 40k, having him beside Guilliman would be huge.