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H-hidoi....
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>>721418982
I thought /v/ hated Trails? Prior to the remake, I always saw people shitting on it. But now all I see is praise and people discussing the game with joy and enthusiasm. Not that I'm complaining. I'm just surprised.
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>>721419072
>>721418982
Sell me on this. How good is the choice of romance?
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>>721419072
Sky and Calvard are kino
Everything from Cold Steel onwards is derivative slop
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>>721419072
Tendies probably moved to another game to shitpost, maybe silent Hill f or some shit
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>>721419153
Honest question or question where you already know the answer and you will act offended and disappointed while avatarfagging as Le depressed cat?
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>>721418982
I have never played this franchise, but this is extremely comfy so far, also the main girl is a cutie
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>>721419617
Enjoy it anon. Also they will probably remake till Azure, they are cheap as fuck to make anyway
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>>721418982
She says that but she is the one getting plowed by the boy in question.
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>>721418982
don't want one anyway you baka woman
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>>721419298
Bro, both Cold Shit and Calvard are the reason people fucking hate Falcom today.
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>EN Crossbell cast
yikes, Tios scene gonna fall flat and the JP one will probably get recast
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i'm still in Ruan. really taking my time with it
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>>721420120
Forgive him he's such a tourist he confused Crossbell with Calvard.
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>>721419617
That's the inferior Estelle you're seeing btw, she's way more entertaining in the original. Probably the best female protagonist in vidya
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Very good and functional game
https://streamable.com/3sxt0q
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>>721419298
Calvard is NOT kino. It giga flopped and is woke as hell
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Doing well on Nintendo eshop. 2nd in Japan Switch 2. 4th on eshop U.S.
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>>721419072
Modern Trails games are still fun to play imo but since CS3 the plot has been retarded in a very bad way and the most recent games all feel like they're calculated to seem epic while actually having as little resultant drama or overall plot development possible

Like compare Daybreak 1&2 to Cold Steel 1&2 and you have a pretty clear, obvious reason why nobody cares about modern Trails
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>>721422084
>W-whoazerinos broseph! You aren't one of these... these.... homosexuals they have now? What the actual flip?!
Americans need every line of dialogue to be the verbal equivalent of jangling keys in front of the eyes regardless of whether it sounds fake & inauthentic, it's weird
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>>721422383
Kai still forcing you to do 4spg quests in chapter 1 was rough. They could've skipped to van's night patrol after the prologue and nothing would change. It would still be a slow burn nonetheless.
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>>721422634
Nta but holy shit I miss the bigger maps that let us explore. I'm so sick of being stuck in some generic European city all the time.
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>I'm 12 hours in and still in the prologue
Even though I'm playing on nightmare I feel like this is taking way longer than the original. I'm having a great time so this is nice I guess.
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>>721418982
Is this one of those JRPGs that keeps getting easier the further you go until all challenge is gone?
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>>721422383
cs3 is when they started outsourcing a lot of the writing and it shows
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>>721422762
That gripe exist for me since cold steel just send the mcs through the rails. I don't care anymore.
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>>721422383
>Cold Steel 1&2
Both dogshit
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>>721422953
Looking at how an anon was crying about this fight last thread, I can understand why devs don't try harder
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>>721423202
Nah. Especially CS1. CS2 is also the last time the music was any good.
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>>721423278
That fight was a joke
The peak of difficulty so far has been the prologue boss and after that you're hurtling downhill fast
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>>721423202
Wrong, they had high highs and low lows but overall fun games.
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I'm going to Tita
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>>721419153
>Choice
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>>721422896
Nah you are good. Everything is bigger and slower.

>>721422953
Challenge disappears as soon as you can get Earth Guard on at least one character.
Wait until you find out that it stacks with Wall lmao.
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>>721422084
>HOLD ON, YOU AREN'T ONE OF THOSE GAYS I KEEP HEARING ABOUT, ARE YOU? WE DON'T LIKE YOUR TYPE IN A CIVILIZED SOCIETY!
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>>721422084
this line is 100% xseed fanfic btw
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>>721419072
We set aside our nihilism and shitposting so Bestelle’s game could get the praise it deserves
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>>721419072
i only hate nu-trails, cs3, cs4, kuro 1, kuro 2 and kai are some of the worst jrpgs ive ever played
the sky remake is actually great
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>>721419617
They stacified (bimbofied) Estelle appearance in the remake
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>>721424709
they already did that with cs4
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>>721423278
>anon was crying about this fight
Are people just not attempting to minmax their quartz and character builds at all?

On that note why the fuck does Estelle have higher STR gain and Joshua have higher ATS gain when Estelle has zero decent Physical abilities and all of Joshua's Physical crafts are great?
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>>721424830
I'm not even trying to minmax anything I'm just spamming buffs/delays/statuses that prevent actions and had no issues so far, aside from the fights when I still didn't have enough quartz at the very start of the prologue.
Guard + Wall + Foresight + Clock makes your party near unkillable normally, only problem will be surviving the rage since you can't do much about it.
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>>721424760
Yeah but this is relative to the original game
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>>721424830
Estelle's second s-craft has high stun multiplier.
Joshua's high speed make him a great caster. Time element restriction means he practically has no restriction because you want action and cast anyway.
Also estelle was supposed to be weak, inexperienced, and excels at nothing, but the new balance in the remake made her as good as joshua anyway
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>>721425102
>surviving the rage
Well as soon as they buff up you S-Break remove buffs / Impede out of turn with Joshua
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>>721425453
I thought rage made enemies immune to that.

>>721425432
Estelle definitely feels a lot stronger, I saw Comet hit for 4k in chapter 1, no way you can do that shit in the original.
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>>721425432
>Estelle's second s-craft has high stun multiplier.
You can't build a STR character around a single S-Craft which you can barely use, the overwhelming majority of her actions are going to be ATS scaling. Meanwhile Joshua can spam Flicker or physical Impede as needed and his high speed makes him great at repeatedly triggering AT Delay so you can get multiple chains out of every stun
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>>721425617
Rage mode enemies is still susceptible to debuffs and anti sept. The rage itself can't be removed but it's not that strong without the buffs.
Comet now scales with ATS and they buffed the shit out of its multiplier. Being able to steal bonus is also great.
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>>721425928
Cool, guess making Estelle into the caster pays off again and even better than the OG.
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>Schera tries to convince Joshua to drink with her by telling him she'll teach him lots of... things
>"okay, she's the hot and seductive onee-san, cool"
>she's actually married
What the fuck
Why is she such a slut
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>>721426196
huh? schera isn't married in fc
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>>721419072
I played a bit over an hour of the demo and thought it was obvious dogshit.
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>>721426224
Estelle says she is when talking to Rinon's mom with her in your team though
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>>721426294
well its either some joke or a mistranslation because schera isn't married until cold steel 4 where she marries olivier
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>>721426196
She wasn't when she said that
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>>721425928
Yea comet is great, but I'm finding myself using Morale more as the game goes on to keep CP up so Joshua can freely spam crafts
I'm only a little way in but this how I'm trying to specialise them. I guess Estelle's line setup makes it difficult to get the high end damage spells so she has to be more of a swiss army knife buff/utility caster
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>>721423202
*katana slices you in one (1) attack*
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>>721426685
>Yea comet is great, but I'm finding myself using Morale more as the game goes on to keep CP up so Joshua can freely spam crafts
Why not both. Estelle gotta do something with her turns anyway in-between refreshing buffs. Hurricane also helps since it's a steal bonus now.
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>>721419072
It's mainly the mentally ill losers from /vg/ and from shitcord that autistically cry about it.
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>>721426883
Well you don't need to build anything specific to use Morale so you still build ATS to use Comet anyway and then quartz setup is preferably a spread of utility options because casting damage arts with her is questionable
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>>721426685
I built everyone as caster (except people like agate) since I have no patience trickling every mobs' hp with crafts
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>>721427252
>because casting damage arts with her is questionable
I do it occasionally against mobs that have weaknesses. Building her for support still gives several offensive arts so might as well.
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>>721423202
They still have passable character interactions. The writing past CS2 is so bad that everything is just a checklist of tropes. Only mentally deficient ESLs would think it's anything but shit.
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>>721418982
>I'm never gonna get one if I leave the house either. might as well stay comfy
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>>721427262
>trickling every mobs' hp with crafts
Ever taken 10 turns before a boss exited Stun, with each hit triggering Brave attack?
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Do I play the original?
Which version is best?
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Azure has been pretty fun so far and I think it's trying to be more linear so it feels less overwhelming
Vaan's dad gotta go to prison though
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>>721427576
They are very different honestly. I will say I enjoy the gameplay a lot more in this remake.
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>>721427576
Remake plays better
Honestly it's a hard question, I love the originals but playing the "same" game twice might be too much for most? Keep in mind if you start with this one the sequels are still chibi unless you wait for the first 5 games to be remade (should be easy since they recycle the maps)
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>>721427517
You can do that with arts too, impede affects arts in this game
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>>721427675
Crafts don't have casting time though you will impede twice as much by just spamming crafts or even normal attacks.
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>>721427675
>60% chance
Extra delay on Arts and the lack of forced Delay means you're overall landing far fewer attacks between each enemy action even if we ignore any EP costs
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>>721427662
It's not like they have to play the crossbell games. SC is a good stopping point honestly.
Just ignore the ouroboros and think of weissman as a lone mad scientist recruiting a bunch of loonies
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>>721427517
Not yet in this game, but in CS1 I remember beating ILF members without letting them have a single turn. I went in expecting to spam earth walls again but you don't even need that.
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What's so good about earth wall? I don't think I can get it yet
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>>721428329
Gives all your party members a buff that makes them invincible until the get hit once.
Also stacks with Guard in this game because it was changed to a 1000HP overheal, and that assumes you are getting hit at all behind all the delays/stuns and foresight when Kloe joins the party.
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>>721428329
>I don't think I can get it yet
Earth Guard is plenty, I have not yet reached the point where I needed more survivability than Earth Guard
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>>721428329
Earth wall is only useful once enemies can oneshot earth guard
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>>721428526
earth guard falls off hard around zeiss
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>>721424709
You're not gonna whine about what they did to Joshua?
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>>721428573
>>721428597
It's really falling off either because it did reduce 1000 damage. Unless you have literally no healing equipped(shouldn't be possible when you have Kloe) wall isn't strictly necessary but still gud.
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>>721428649
Nu-Joshua sucks
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>>721428738
It's not really*
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>>721428743
Based. Both Estelle and Joshua were cute/moe, now they're too beautiful. A lot of people (women) bitched about the figure Estelle got but she honestly looks better there than whatever she'll look like in the SC remake.
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>>721428743
the original joshua was based because it made the reveal at the end make so much more sense and because they completely redid all of his portraits in sc as a result
now he's just gonna have the exact same model in the sc remake and its not gonna hit as hard
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Also don't sleep on Clock Up EX.
It's effectively a single target Heaven's Kiss available way earlier than LV30 Schera
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>>721429413
I've used this on other characters who were standing in boss AoEs to advance their turn so they could move out of the area before the attack came out and that made me feel like a clever little bastard
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>>721429649
I use it to do things like instant art cast or giving more turns to Joshua when I want to flicker harder.
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what difficulty do I pick
how's nightmare?
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>>721429820
>what difficulty do I pick
Everything but Nightmare is kinda free if you know what you are doing, and even that would be only difficult in at the start when you don't have access to the good arts.
Still, you can switch during your playthrough
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>>721429990
alright thanks anon
I'll go with nightmare then
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>>721429990
>Still, you can switch during your playthrough
Can I switch UP to Nightmare? Hard seems too easy
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>>721430248
Yes. I accidentally switched down when I was changing settings and the game warned me that I won't get an achivement but allowed me to switch up again.
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>>721428649
Maybe, but Estelle is the clickbait here, so might as well mention her
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>>721419072
Viral marketing from a certain investment firm
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>>721430283
based actually
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>Joshua: You won't find friendly soldiers outside of Liberl

Uh, has he played the rest of the series?
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Is Estelle supposed not to have voice lines when talking to the otthers on top of the tower?
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>>721429413
Heaven's kiss is available earlier than that, I got it in the middle of chapter 1.
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>>721430432
I'm esl and I thought he meant liberl soldiers when fighting other countries.
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>>721430881
I remember only using in endgame for the original, did they change the craft level up requirements?
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>>721430327
Ok, Nintendo marketer
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How the fuck does Joshua not kill himself despite getting brotherzoned literally every 5 minutes
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>>721430960
Yeah, along with buffing them with extra effects. Lichtkreis now has earth guard effect for example.
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>>721431307
Realistically, estelle will never score with anyone else anyway
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>>721431378
>Kloe has both guard AND a foresight AoE now
Damn they really like her huh.
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>>721430960
Not him but pretty sure yeah, I'm just starting Chapter 2 and Estelle already has Comet, Josh already has Cloak and Dagger.
It's strange because you'd think with all the buffs to crafts and CP generation and burst assaults that compared to vanilla you'd expect them to be busted but somehow the exact same spells like Clock Up and Earth Wall and Aero Storm end up being the only spells I cast exactly like in the original.
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>>721431378
>Lichtkreis now has earth guard effect for example.
Doesn't that make it even stronger than Emma's ultimate spell?
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>>721431502
I'm using Earth Guard a lot more here, but that's because it's AoE now and a separate buff to Wall.
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>>721431441
Anon...
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>>721431618
I mean, I like it, you probably can pretend it's Cold Steel and play it like that but they also somehow balanced it that the old tactics also still work well.
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>>721418982
it’s true. stayed cooped up at home my whole 20s
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>>721430327
>5% shareholder
>having any say at all
You guys don't get how shareholding works, do you?
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>>721431564
I thought emma has all-reflect
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>>721430327
What happened to kondo and his friends?
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>higher difficulties is just stat increase to enemies.
Why bother?
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>>721432154
Because the base stats are low
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>>721432154
to test your resolve haha
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>>721432154
Because it forces you to change your tactics?
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>>721419072
Tho is now the 4channiest game of the year next to Expedition 33 and Silksong. You MUST buy it or you’re a “jeet”, “thirdie” or “macaco”. It’s just something you gotta do man. I don’t even like this shit but I bought it anyway to show support for Anonymous and all the work they do.
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>>721431996
anything above 0% for the retards here means they run the company
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>>721419617
It’s a generic anime game with generic writing and art. Estelle comes across as yet another tsundere copy-paste like every single anime these days. Not sure if it’s the game itself or the localization, but this isn’t as fresh as it was in the 2000s.
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>>721431996
They also hold 5% of all the other companies
Then they also hold 5% of all the other companies which own those other companies
Then they also hold 5% of all the other companies which own all of those other companies which own all of those other companies

Their total influence is gigantic, but isn't anything specific to Falcom
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>>721418982
What are girlfriends good for in the game?
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Heaven's Kiss is now LV16
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>>721432285
>Seething about e33 and silksong
Found the tendiejeet
Go back calling others poorfags for not wanting to buy the switch 2, marketer
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>>721432154
What's the point of all these combat mechanics and options if you can just attack enemies and they'll die first?
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>>721432267
Ai should be smarter or add new exclusive skills to higher difficulties.
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>>721433113
Nothing needs to be "smarter". Enemies are not an AI, they're a list of abilities with a priority flowchart and they do not need to be anything else.
Enemies need to have numbers high enough that they force you to engage with the systems properly
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>>721432267
But youtube man told me that's "artificial" difficulty and it's always unquestionably bad?
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Is there stronger version of Earth Guard? 1000 point shield starts to fall off later and Earth Wall just gives you immunity against one hit.
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>>721433475
You go FAST and just maintain Earth Wall that's what we did in the old days.
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>>721433475
Foresight becomes available by the time guard "falls off". Also you could just spam wall
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>>721431012
AAAIIIIEEEE
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>>721432154
The game mechanics are clearly designed for nightmare. Hard mode is normal, normal and below are for people who play video games for their friends.
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>>721432901
>Trails in the Sky now costs over $500 (game plus Switch 2)
What happened to the gaming industry? I am not paying $500 for a remake, “macaco”.
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>>721424830
i'm building Estelle as a big bonk breaker (with earth guard as per tradition) and joshy as a crit/spd demon
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Josette's hot
Especially the zoom on her ass when she does her rush attack
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>>721431996
you're the retard here and it's not even funny
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>>721419153
Only the Cold Steel games have dating sim elements
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Sex with Estelle
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Trails of subhumans
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>>721436051
Calm down FEroastie
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>>721419072
It's pretty bad but the writing is full of anime tropes so people pretend it's good. What sets trails apart from other jrpgs is the huge amount of timed optional content and optional NPC dialogue but that stuff doesn't really make the game fun.
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>>721422953
this game was never balanced, the entire series is a fucking nuclear arms race between players and devs
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>>721428743
He was a Mary sue that ditched Estelle the moment the going got tough. Yet you're forced to use him in your party at the final dungeon in SC even though you had plenty of other powerful characters that slot could've gone to at that point.
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How is the Switch 2 performance?
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Now i see the true value of xstelle
Literal translations fucking suck massive dick
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>>721419072
Trails was falling apart for about five games straight with a Persona wannabe high school harem sub series. A lot of people have nostalgia for the first few games.

Also this is the first one to get a real marketing push, so there's shills about. You'll notice them pretty easily, they scream if you even mildly criticize the remake.
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>>721424616
I had more fun with Daybreak 1 than I did with all of the Crossbell and Erebonia games.
I had the most fun with Sky 3rd and Daybreak 2



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