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>>721418982I thought /v/ hated Trails? Prior to the remake, I always saw people shitting on it. But now all I see is praise and people discussing the game with joy and enthusiasm. Not that I'm complaining. I'm just surprised.
>>721419072>>721418982Sell me on this. How good is the choice of romance?
>>721419072Sky and Calvard are kinoEverything from Cold Steel onwards is derivative slop
>>721419072Tendies probably moved to another game to shitpost, maybe silent Hill f or some shit
>>721419153Honest question or question where you already know the answer and you will act offended and disappointed while avatarfagging as Le depressed cat?
>>721418982I have never played this franchise, but this is extremely comfy so far, also the main girl is a cutie
>>721419617Enjoy it anon. Also they will probably remake till Azure, they are cheap as fuck to make anyway
>>721418982She says that but she is the one getting plowed by the boy in question.
>>721418982don't want one anyway you baka woman
>>721419298Bro, both Cold Shit and Calvard are the reason people fucking hate Falcom today.
>EN Crossbell castyikes, Tios scene gonna fall flat and the JP one will probably get recast
i'm still in Ruan. really taking my time with it
>>721420120Forgive him he's such a tourist he confused Crossbell with Calvard.
>>721419617That's the inferior Estelle you're seeing btw, she's way more entertaining in the original. Probably the best female protagonist in vidya
Very good and functional gamehttps://streamable.com/3sxt0q
>>721419298Calvard is NOT kino. It giga flopped and is woke as hell
Doing well on Nintendo eshop. 2nd in Japan Switch 2. 4th on eshop U.S.
>>721419072Modern Trails games are still fun to play imo but since CS3 the plot has been retarded in a very bad way and the most recent games all feel like they're calculated to seem epic while actually having as little resultant drama or overall plot development possibleLike compare Daybreak 1&2 to Cold Steel 1&2 and you have a pretty clear, obvious reason why nobody cares about modern Trails
>>721422084>W-whoazerinos broseph! You aren't one of these... these.... homosexuals they have now? What the actual flip?!Americans need every line of dialogue to be the verbal equivalent of jangling keys in front of the eyes regardless of whether it sounds fake & inauthentic, it's weird
>>721422383Kai still forcing you to do 4spg quests in chapter 1 was rough. They could've skipped to van's night patrol after the prologue and nothing would change. It would still be a slow burn nonetheless.
>>721422634Nta but holy shit I miss the bigger maps that let us explore. I'm so sick of being stuck in some generic European city all the time.
>I'm 12 hours in and still in the prologueEven though I'm playing on nightmare I feel like this is taking way longer than the original. I'm having a great time so this is nice I guess.
>>721418982Is this one of those JRPGs that keeps getting easier the further you go until all challenge is gone?
>>721422383cs3 is when they started outsourcing a lot of the writing and it shows
>>721422762That gripe exist for me since cold steel just send the mcs through the rails. I don't care anymore.
>>721422383>Cold Steel 1&2Both dogshit
>>721422953Looking at how an anon was crying about this fight last thread, I can understand why devs don't try harder
>>721423202Nah. Especially CS1. CS2 is also the last time the music was any good.
>>721423278That fight was a jokeThe peak of difficulty so far has been the prologue boss and after that you're hurtling downhill fast
>>721423202Wrong, they had high highs and low lows but overall fun games.
I'm going to Tita
>>721419153>Choice
>>721422896Nah you are good. Everything is bigger and slower.>>721422953Challenge disappears as soon as you can get Earth Guard on at least one character.Wait until you find out that it stacks with Wall lmao.
>>721422084>HOLD ON, YOU AREN'T ONE OF THOSE GAYS I KEEP HEARING ABOUT, ARE YOU? WE DON'T LIKE YOUR TYPE IN A CIVILIZED SOCIETY!
>>721422084this line is 100% xseed fanfic btw
>>721419072We set aside our nihilism and shitposting so Bestelle’s game could get the praise it deserves
>>721419072i only hate nu-trails, cs3, cs4, kuro 1, kuro 2 and kai are some of the worst jrpgs ive ever playedthe sky remake is actually great
>>721419617They stacified (bimbofied) Estelle appearance in the remake
>>721424709they already did that with cs4
>>721423278>anon was crying about this fightAre people just not attempting to minmax their quartz and character builds at all?On that note why the fuck does Estelle have higher STR gain and Joshua have higher ATS gain when Estelle has zero decent Physical abilities and all of Joshua's Physical crafts are great?
>>721424830I'm not even trying to minmax anything I'm just spamming buffs/delays/statuses that prevent actions and had no issues so far, aside from the fights when I still didn't have enough quartz at the very start of the prologue.Guard + Wall + Foresight + Clock makes your party near unkillable normally, only problem will be surviving the rage since you can't do much about it.
>>721424760Yeah but this is relative to the original game
>>721424830Estelle's second s-craft has high stun multiplier. Joshua's high speed make him a great caster. Time element restriction means he practically has no restriction because you want action and cast anyway.Also estelle was supposed to be weak, inexperienced, and excels at nothing, but the new balance in the remake made her as good as joshua anyway
>>721425102>surviving the rageWell as soon as they buff up you S-Break remove buffs / Impede out of turn with Joshua
>>721425453I thought rage made enemies immune to that.>>721425432Estelle definitely feels a lot stronger, I saw Comet hit for 4k in chapter 1, no way you can do that shit in the original.
>>721425432>Estelle's second s-craft has high stun multiplier.You can't build a STR character around a single S-Craft which you can barely use, the overwhelming majority of her actions are going to be ATS scaling. Meanwhile Joshua can spam Flicker or physical Impede as needed and his high speed makes him great at repeatedly triggering AT Delay so you can get multiple chains out of every stun
>>721425617Rage mode enemies is still susceptible to debuffs and anti sept. The rage itself can't be removed but it's not that strong without the buffs.Comet now scales with ATS and they buffed the shit out of its multiplier. Being able to steal bonus is also great.
>>721425928Cool, guess making Estelle into the caster pays off again and even better than the OG.
>Schera tries to convince Joshua to drink with her by telling him she'll teach him lots of... things>"okay, she's the hot and seductive onee-san, cool">she's actually marriedWhat the fuckWhy is she such a slut
>>721426196huh? schera isn't married in fc
>>721419072I played a bit over an hour of the demo and thought it was obvious dogshit.
>>721426224Estelle says she is when talking to Rinon's mom with her in your team though
>>721426294well its either some joke or a mistranslation because schera isn't married until cold steel 4 where she marries olivier
>>721426196She wasn't when she said that
>>721425928Yea comet is great, but I'm finding myself using Morale more as the game goes on to keep CP up so Joshua can freely spam craftsI'm only a little way in but this how I'm trying to specialise them. I guess Estelle's line setup makes it difficult to get the high end damage spells so she has to be more of a swiss army knife buff/utility caster
>>721423202*katana slices you in one (1) attack*
>>721426685>Yea comet is great, but I'm finding myself using Morale more as the game goes on to keep CP up so Joshua can freely spam craftsWhy not both. Estelle gotta do something with her turns anyway in-between refreshing buffs. Hurricane also helps since it's a steal bonus now.
>>721419072It's mainly the mentally ill losers from /vg/ and from shitcord that autistically cry about it.
>>721426883Well you don't need to build anything specific to use Morale so you still build ATS to use Comet anyway and then quartz setup is preferably a spread of utility options because casting damage arts with her is questionable
>>721426685I built everyone as caster (except people like agate) since I have no patience trickling every mobs' hp with crafts
>>721427252>because casting damage arts with her is questionableI do it occasionally against mobs that have weaknesses. Building her for support still gives several offensive arts so might as well.
>>721423202They still have passable character interactions. The writing past CS2 is so bad that everything is just a checklist of tropes. Only mentally deficient ESLs would think it's anything but shit.
>>721418982>I'm never gonna get one if I leave the house either. might as well stay comfy
>>721427262>trickling every mobs' hp with craftsEver taken 10 turns before a boss exited Stun, with each hit triggering Brave attack?
Do I play the original?Which version is best?
Azure has been pretty fun so far and I think it's trying to be more linear so it feels less overwhelming Vaan's dad gotta go to prison though
>>721427576They are very different honestly. I will say I enjoy the gameplay a lot more in this remake.
>>721427576Remake plays betterHonestly it's a hard question, I love the originals but playing the "same" game twice might be too much for most? Keep in mind if you start with this one the sequels are still chibi unless you wait for the first 5 games to be remade (should be easy since they recycle the maps)
>>721427517You can do that with arts too, impede affects arts in this game
>>721427675Crafts don't have casting time though you will impede twice as much by just spamming crafts or even normal attacks.
>>721427675>60% chanceExtra delay on Arts and the lack of forced Delay means you're overall landing far fewer attacks between each enemy action even if we ignore any EP costs
>>721427662It's not like they have to play the crossbell games. SC is a good stopping point honestly.Just ignore the ouroboros and think of weissman as a lone mad scientist recruiting a bunch of loonies
>>721427517Not yet in this game, but in CS1 I remember beating ILF members without letting them have a single turn. I went in expecting to spam earth walls again but you don't even need that.
What's so good about earth wall? I don't think I can get it yet
>>721428329Gives all your party members a buff that makes them invincible until the get hit once.Also stacks with Guard in this game because it was changed to a 1000HP overheal, and that assumes you are getting hit at all behind all the delays/stuns and foresight when Kloe joins the party.
>>721428329>I don't think I can get it yetEarth Guard is plenty, I have not yet reached the point where I needed more survivability than Earth Guard
>>721428329Earth wall is only useful once enemies can oneshot earth guard
>>721428526earth guard falls off hard around zeiss
>>721424709You're not gonna whine about what they did to Joshua?
>>721428573>>721428597It's really falling off either because it did reduce 1000 damage. Unless you have literally no healing equipped(shouldn't be possible when you have Kloe) wall isn't strictly necessary but still gud.
>>721428649Nu-Joshua sucks
>>721428738It's not really*
>>721428743Based. Both Estelle and Joshua were cute/moe, now they're too beautiful. A lot of people (women) bitched about the figure Estelle got but she honestly looks better there than whatever she'll look like in the SC remake.
>>721428743the original joshua was based because it made the reveal at the end make so much more sense and because they completely redid all of his portraits in sc as a resultnow he's just gonna have the exact same model in the sc remake and its not gonna hit as hard
Also don't sleep on Clock Up EX.It's effectively a single target Heaven's Kiss available way earlier than LV30 Schera
>>721429413I've used this on other characters who were standing in boss AoEs to advance their turn so they could move out of the area before the attack came out and that made me feel like a clever little bastard
>>721429649I use it to do things like instant art cast or giving more turns to Joshua when I want to flicker harder.
what difficulty do I pickhow's nightmare?
>>721429820>what difficulty do I pickEverything but Nightmare is kinda free if you know what you are doing, and even that would be only difficult in at the start when you don't have access to the good arts.Still, you can switch during your playthrough
>>721429990alright thanks anonI'll go with nightmare then
>>721429990>Still, you can switch during your playthroughCan I switch UP to Nightmare? Hard seems too easy
>>721430248Yes. I accidentally switched down when I was changing settings and the game warned me that I won't get an achivement but allowed me to switch up again.
>>721428649Maybe, but Estelle is the clickbait here, so might as well mention her
>>721419072Viral marketing from a certain investment firm
>>721430283based actually
>Joshua: You won't find friendly soldiers outside of LiberlUh, has he played the rest of the series?
Is Estelle supposed not to have voice lines when talking to the otthers on top of the tower?
>>721429413Heaven's kiss is available earlier than that, I got it in the middle of chapter 1.
>>721430432I'm esl and I thought he meant liberl soldiers when fighting other countries.
>>721430881I remember only using in endgame for the original, did they change the craft level up requirements?
>>721430327Ok, Nintendo marketer
How the fuck does Joshua not kill himself despite getting brotherzoned literally every 5 minutes
>>721430960Yeah, along with buffing them with extra effects. Lichtkreis now has earth guard effect for example.
>>721431307Realistically, estelle will never score with anyone else anyway
>>721431378>Kloe has both guard AND a foresight AoE nowDamn they really like her huh.
>>721430960Not him but pretty sure yeah, I'm just starting Chapter 2 and Estelle already has Comet, Josh already has Cloak and Dagger.It's strange because you'd think with all the buffs to crafts and CP generation and burst assaults that compared to vanilla you'd expect them to be busted but somehow the exact same spells like Clock Up and Earth Wall and Aero Storm end up being the only spells I cast exactly like in the original.
>>721431378>Lichtkreis now has earth guard effect for example.Doesn't that make it even stronger than Emma's ultimate spell?
>>721431502I'm using Earth Guard a lot more here, but that's because it's AoE now and a separate buff to Wall.
>>721431441Anon...
>>721431618I mean, I like it, you probably can pretend it's Cold Steel and play it like that but they also somehow balanced it that the old tactics also still work well.
>>721418982it’s true. stayed cooped up at home my whole 20s
>>721430327>5% shareholder>having any say at allYou guys don't get how shareholding works, do you?
>>721431564I thought emma has all-reflect
>>721430327What happened to kondo and his friends?
>higher difficulties is just stat increase to enemies. Why bother?
>>721432154Because the base stats are low
>>721432154to test your resolve haha
>>721432154Because it forces you to change your tactics?
>>721419072Tho is now the 4channiest game of the year next to Expedition 33 and Silksong. You MUST buy it or you’re a “jeet”, “thirdie” or “macaco”. It’s just something you gotta do man. I don’t even like this shit but I bought it anyway to show support for Anonymous and all the work they do.
>>721431996anything above 0% for the retards here means they run the company
>>721419617It’s a generic anime game with generic writing and art. Estelle comes across as yet another tsundere copy-paste like every single anime these days. Not sure if it’s the game itself or the localization, but this isn’t as fresh as it was in the 2000s.
>>721431996They also hold 5% of all the other companiesThen they also hold 5% of all the other companies which own those other companiesThen they also hold 5% of all the other companies which own all of those other companies which own all of those other companiesTheir total influence is gigantic, but isn't anything specific to Falcom
>>721418982What are girlfriends good for in the game?
Heaven's Kiss is now LV16
>>721432285>Seething about e33 and silksong Found the tendiejeetGo back calling others poorfags for not wanting to buy the switch 2, marketer
>>721432154What's the point of all these combat mechanics and options if you can just attack enemies and they'll die first?
>>721432267Ai should be smarter or add new exclusive skills to higher difficulties.
>>721433113Nothing needs to be "smarter". Enemies are not an AI, they're a list of abilities with a priority flowchart and they do not need to be anything else.Enemies need to have numbers high enough that they force you to engage with the systems properly
>>721432267But youtube man told me that's "artificial" difficulty and it's always unquestionably bad?
Is there stronger version of Earth Guard? 1000 point shield starts to fall off later and Earth Wall just gives you immunity against one hit.
>>721433475You go FAST and just maintain Earth Wall that's what we did in the old days.
>>721433475Foresight becomes available by the time guard "falls off". Also you could just spam wall
>>721431012AAAIIIIEEEE
>>721432154The game mechanics are clearly designed for nightmare. Hard mode is normal, normal and below are for people who play video games for their friends.
>>721432901>Trails in the Sky now costs over $500 (game plus Switch 2) What happened to the gaming industry? I am not paying $500 for a remake, “macaco”.
>>721424830i'm building Estelle as a big bonk breaker (with earth guard as per tradition) and joshy as a crit/spd demon
Josette's hot Especially the zoom on her ass when she does her rush attack
>>721431996you're the retard here and it's not even funny
>>721419153Only the Cold Steel games have dating sim elements
Sex with Estelle
Trails of subhumans
>>721436051Calm down FEroastie
>>721419072It's pretty bad but the writing is full of anime tropes so people pretend it's good. What sets trails apart from other jrpgs is the huge amount of timed optional content and optional NPC dialogue but that stuff doesn't really make the game fun.
>>721422953this game was never balanced, the entire series is a fucking nuclear arms race between players and devs
>>721428743He was a Mary sue that ditched Estelle the moment the going got tough. Yet you're forced to use him in your party at the final dungeon in SC even though you had plenty of other powerful characters that slot could've gone to at that point.
How is the Switch 2 performance?
Now i see the true value of xstelleLiteral translations fucking suck massive dick
>>721419072Trails was falling apart for about five games straight with a Persona wannabe high school harem sub series. A lot of people have nostalgia for the first few games.Also this is the first one to get a real marketing push, so there's shills about. You'll notice them pretty easily, they scream if you even mildly criticize the remake.
>>721424616I had more fun with Daybreak 1 than I did with all of the Crossbell and Erebonia games.I had the most fun with Sky 3rd and Daybreak 2