Nintendo's lowest point
>>721419281The game was good, though. You could have posted woolly world, or 3d land, or 3d world, or tropical freeze, or mario kart 7, any of those and I wouldn't have said anything. But NSMBU was good.
>rearrange assets into actually new levelsNah, Tears of the Kingdom is Nintendo's lowest point.
>>721419382>over 20 million copies solddo you know what lowest means
>>721419281Nintendo's lowest point Not a single new good game just gimmickslop and friendslop
>>721419716mogs your top 10 favorite games combined
>>721419281The Wii U announcement is their low point. Alternatively, Labo or the 40th anniversary of their most important game being a movie everyone already knew about, a paid update, and a bunch of Japan-only advertising.
>>721419281nah>100$ for plastic shell>25$ for cardboard
>>721419281Making Luigi U DLC for it and trying to pass it as a standalone game was lower
>>721419382>>rearrange assets into actually new levelswhy do they exclusively do this to games that nobody wants them to mindlessly repeat? Where's my fucking yoshi's island 2?
>>721419839And plastic visor...And lenses...
>>721419498Yeah it means when they secure a lot of sales by appealing to the lowest common denominator like (You).
>>721419369Wooly world copping strays. It may have been mid but its only been downhill for yoshi since.
>>72141990940$ is what they should be charging max
>thread about Nintendo's lowest point>nobody can agree because there are so many good candidates
>>721419976It had been downhill for yoshi for years already at that point, woolly world was mediocre at best so at best it was a bump on the side of a mountain
>>721419281That game is arguably the best 2D mario game ever made
>>721420036honestly everything NES to Gamecube was fantastic for consoles, and handhelds were all wonderful GB to 3DS. Anything Wii and beyond are points you could argue something went wrong.
>>721419281I would say this was specifically
>>721419946>revising definitions to appease your autismtroon brain
>>721419281NSMBU is the best, most complete 2D Mario game>>7214193693D Land, 3D World and Tropical Freeze were excellent, Nintendo was firing in all cyllinders when it came to platformers during the 3DS/Wii U era
>>721419909>for 14 infamously garbage games>that you don't even own, you're renting from Nintendo
>>721419909>plastic visorAren't you just supposed to shove your console in
>>721420284>3D Land, 3D World and Tropical Freeze were excellent,3d land/world felt entirely unfinished; their mechanics were janky at best. I'll admit world is better than land but both were frustrating to play unless you cheesed every single course.tropical freeze was mediocre with only like 3 good levels and only 1 good boss.
>>721419281Why is it the anti Nintendo schizos never criticise them for bad shit they actually do?
>>721420421>>for 14 infamously garbage gamesnah most of the vb games were actually alright, it was just the eye strain people were complaining about.
>>721420498Wow you have one of the worst opinions on platformers I've ever heard. So what are some good ones?
>>721419281>games? uh, a 5 hour submarine game and some pilot wii sport minigames XDD>actually, the whole 3d thing? fuck that heres a doorstop without it versionits honestly amazing they managed to turn the ship around from flop to a must have
>>721419281You're right in that it was a Wii U game. Nintendo's E3 2015 in general was atrocious, I'm sure the shitposters who pretend the Switch 2 line-up is bad would've had a field day back then if they weren't still underaged.
>>721420556yoshi's island and mario 64 for starters
>>721419369Wooly World is still the second best Yoshi game ever made.
>>721420720I wish I bought half a dozen of those doorstops those were a steal for the price they were charging after they were out for like a single year.
>>721420917That is not a high bar to clear.
>>721420917not like that's saying much, the 3rd and 4th best ones are hot garbage
>>721420938Or you could have just bought government bonds with that money, they would have appreciated in value more than a dozen 3DSs and require no storage
>>721419281That's not Mario Kart World
>>721420036When you're a successful company that's over 100 years old you're going to have a low point every two decades or so.
>>721419369I hated New Super Mario bros 2 so I skipped this one since it looked like more of the same, would you recommend it to me?
>>721419281/thread
>>721419498. Pokemon has outsold its older gens, does that make them better?
>>721421105idk I didn't play nsmb2 LMAO
>>721421105It's not as bad as NSMB2, although that's not high praise as you probably know
>>721420036unironically that's a good thing, it shows nintendo tries new things that different people dislike with different strengths instead of being a constant downward spiral like xbox or falling into a comfort zone where everything is the same like playstation
>>721420535The only good VB games are Warioland and Jack Bros. All others are too short to justify the price or just bad.t. played them all on my hacked 3DS
>>721421238this is about the LOWEST point in nintendo, not whether or not the games are better.
>>721419281I'll forever hate the Wii U version of this because it forces one player in multiplayer to only use the gamepad for gay touch shit instead of letting them control a character like normal.
>>721419281But enough about NSO
>>721419281wrong
>>721420892Yoshi's island is not a better platformer than tropical freeze in any wayMario 64 is a GOAT, can't say anything there
>>721421643This. Shitcube is abominable
>>721421640NSO was only bad for the first few years, it has amassed a ton of value now. I'm surprised they didn't hike the price up when they added Gamecube games.
>>721421704Subscription services have no value by definition
>>721421837This>>721421704At face value, paying to play modern games online is fineIt's retrofitting any other possible features into nso to get those who don't play online, that's what pisses me off
>>721421837I'd rather pay 10 bucks a year (with family plan) for temporary access to hundreds of games than 5 to 10 per game to own a ROM of it. And I'm sure they would've charged 15 to 20 for Gamecube games since N64 ones were 10.
>>721421980ROMs are freeIt's not even like modern games where pirating requires you to have some esoteric knowledge about which trackers and repackagers to trust and get malware once in a while, they're just immediately accessible and will run on anything, in fact unofficial emulation solutions are objectively better than what Nintendo offers in a number of significant ways
>>721421980I'd rather pay a one time for each thing I actually want, instead of continuously slinging money for a blanket service I'd never fully utilize, and not have Internet connection as a requirement. Kinda kikls the spirit of portability, depending on the circumstances, ya know?
>>721422195NSO games don't require an internet connection to be played, they're all downloaded upon being added.
>>721422279This was the better game out of the two.
>>721422242Even if true, I need to maintain the membership to be able to play, so it still is not worth it to meSay for instance there's really only like, 5 games I want to play, that a la VC might've cost me 70ish total, after that $70 mark in subscription dues, I'm officially pissing away moneyIt's a scam, and greedy sleazy corpo shit. And I'm tired with pretending it's not
>>721419382the worst part is most people don't see it for what i is. I still can't wrap my head around how the fuck they took 6 years for a glorified DLC.
>>721419369do you even like videogames?
>>721422279I was just emulating this yesterday.It's pretty fun, but what I really felt like playing was 3D world, only it apparently broke because of nvidia drivers.That's what I get for updating my drivers for the first time in 4 years.
>>721420223this is the only real answer from an economic perspective
>>721420521It's probably paid opposition, at least in part. They can't discourage anti-consumer behavior, censorship in localization, or DEI garbage because their corporate overlords would look just as bad when they inevitably try to pull the same shit.
>>721421503Teleroboxer is great and the only reason someone would claim otherwise is if they've never played it or they're mad because they're bad at it.
the wii u & 3ds were the last nintendo consoles with soul
>>721422471The tier with NES, SNES, and Game Boy is 20 a year, and subscriptions can be canceled. There are plenty of reasons not to want to pay for it, yours all just sound like uninformed excuses.
>>721423123And I want the 64 and gc games, 9n a regular basis, so my point is still very much validI enjoy retro games much more than most modern games
>>721419281Nintendo's lowest point is right now.NSMBU is just the Mario Wonder of the Wii U.
>>721422862It is, but it's going to play like ASS on all of the Switch's controllers.They should've fucking made a modern version of the VB controller instead of spending so much on the fucking stand.
>>721419839This honestly has to be the most retarded product Nintendo has made.>Here you can recreate the Virtual Boy right down to everything that made everyone hate it>Also, it doesn't come with a controller! So even though we've made this shitty experience faithful, actually playing the games isn't faithful at all!At the very LEAST they could have added a headstrap to make it comfortable, let alone even just a wireless Virtual Boy controller.
>>721419281This is probably the best NSMB though.
>>721423282>There are plenty of reasons not to want to pay for itNice reading skills, fuckwit. What I said was that his reasons all sound like petty excuses, many of which can be disproven. It's like saying you don't want to go outside because bears will eat your penis, when the reality is that they won't, and you don't want to because it's hot and you're lazy. Just say that.
>>721420284>Nintendo was firing in all cyllinders when it came to platformers during the 3DS/Wii U eraNo the fuck they weren't, those games were the most rehashed shit I've ever had the displeasure of playing.Sure they're not that bad if they're your first introduction to it but if you had been playing games for a minimum of 10 years by that point it wouldn't have entertained you
>>721421238>does that make them better?Definitely better than 4, 6 and 7.
>>721419281Better than Wonder
>>721421837Nah, between the tons of classic games and the music for 20 bucks even I have to admit that it's one of the more worthwhile sub services.
>>721422471>after that $70 mark in subscription dues, I'm officially pissing away money>It's a scam, and greedy sleazy corpo shit.That's three years to finish 5 games if you're taking that long then that's on you.
>>721424301Maybe you should tell me what nonsense you think you read where I said that? Except you can't say shit, because it only ever happened in your head, you braindead fucking retard.
>>721423309This. Yes, 2015 was awful for them. But that was them closing off an already dead console. The Switch literally just started and is getting games which feel like they should come mid to late lifecycle, like the galaxy ports and yoshis book
>>721424524Switch 2*
>>721424446>1 year of NSO = 20>1 year of nso X 3 = 60>20 goes into 70 three times remainder 10Math, nigga
>>721422279The Year of Luigi was Based and Greenpilled tho
>>721419281Lowest or most boring?
>>721419281i loved my Wii U but it was insane that it didn't have any mainline entries. No Galaxy succesor, no mainline Kirby, no Luigi's Mansion. The best we got was Tropical Freeze, and at the consoles death we got BOTW. It's even stranger when you think about how much profit nintendo made off the wii. What the fuck were they doing?
>>721424843>What the fuck were they doing?Iwata went full jew and tried to coast entirely on brand which is also why he made amiibo and leveraged content on the disc.
2015 was a dark time for nintendo
>>721424381I replay games. That might be a concept lost on you, because most "gamers" these days only have the attention span to "play" modern games once through, because storytime is the main appeal to most games these days, with little to no replay valueSo yes, after a few years, I'm still wasting money
>>721425745Then you should have bought physical versions of those games like we did. I can go back and play my physical copy of s3nk whenever I please.
>>721424641Because it helps the downtrodden shareholders, anon.
>>721425810So... You don't want me to get a switch 2 because corpo mode is best mode?You kinda suck at being a shill
>>721425884Nigga I don't even have a switch 2. I'm saying you need to deal with the shit your generation enabled when you started buying subs.
>>721426001>your generation
>>721423450They should have packed it with a roll of silver duct tape as an homage to the only reason anyone under 40 knows WTF a virtual boy is.
>>721419281>Nintendo's lowest pointThat's not New Super Mario Bros. 2
>>721426595They came out at the same time if I recall
>>721419281I'll go straight for the obvious low point.Dropping Sony as a partner for fucking Phillips and then giving Phillips the rights to make games for their most notable franchises.Thank god they did for the great YTPs we got from it, but holy fuck was that the dumbest possible move at the time.
>>721426254>your generation enabled when you started buying subs.English is hard for you isn't it. In this context "you" isn't referring to you as an individual but as the collective gen z.
>>721426689>Dropping Sony as a partner for fucking Phillips and then giving Phillips the rights to make games for their most notable franchises.Oh no, that was a high point. That deal would have absolutely ruined Nintendo and because of it they've cemented their niche and become more of a cultural icon than they were before.
>>721426809It's your generation anon, that's why you're itching and moaning. It's all you know.
>>721420421>>for 14 infamously garbage gamesYou realize they canceled several fully completed titles due to canning virtual boy. Nso may see them get uncancelled much like what happen with star fox 2.
>>721426818It's still ridiculously stupid for Nintendo leadership in spite of the long-term outcome. The games themselves were comically dog-shit awful even for 1993.Sony did go and make the PlayStation extra awesome just as a fuck-you to Nintendo, everyone liked that.
>>721419909>>721419839Which is exactly why no-one but the most diehard of collectors will even bother with it.
>>721427165>It's still ridiculously stupid for Nintendo leadership in spite of the long-term outcome.A handful of bad games is an infinitely smarter outcome than having their ideas stripped from them anon.And as much as you want to think the ps1 was "awesome" it lowered the standards for gaming across the board.
>>721430323>standardised pricing meaning games that didn't deserve to be 40+ now became 40+ like sports games>console was released in a state where it the heat generated by the system would eventually warp and damage it>the beginning of graphics > gameplay era with people more fascinated by what they saw instead of what they playedIt effectively ruined the industry.
>>721430604Not a single one of those points were an opinion. Sports games used to be 20 or less, the warping parts are the reason you had to eventually flip your PlayStation and graphics were the main selling point for FF7 of all things, it certainly wasn't gameplay since it was just an inferior FF6.Deny reality all you want but it won't change it.
>>721430604Those are mostly factual claims thoughNot sure about the warping but heat from the power supply did cause game to not run on the first version of the consoleIt was fixed in later revisions thoughIt also had extremely bad colour banding on the first model
>>721427415then why bother wasting a direct on it and putting it on NSOpeople have been asking for DS, GB/GBA, Wii hell even Game and Watch would have been recieved more positively
>>721431360GB and GBA have been there for ages now you dumbass and DS obviously isn't happening.
>>721431360>GB/GBAYeah I don't think they've been asking for those ones.
>>721431006being an ignorant is not an arguement champ
>>721431360Other than the GB and GBA already being there it isn't even the first time nintendo has done something like this either.
>>721432064So are you denying that the ps1 had a fault that resulted in people flipping their ps1 to play it?
>>721422242You need to connect to the internet every seven days. Because apparently having it detect how long your sub is active for and giving you that long isn’t acceptable to the greedy kikes at Nintendo.
>>721432428>NoYou said that anon was lying though, so that means you are indeed denying it.
>>721430323NTA but the CD format was a godsend for making 50/60$ the industry standard while N64 titles went for 70 or 80$
>>721432582>Because apparently having it detect how long your sub is active for and giving you that long isn’t acceptable to the greedy kikes at Nintendo.It's more that there's hundreds upon thousands of ways of tricking a system into thinking no time has passed.
>>721432771>Where did I say that? Quote the exact text.Okay >>721430604>>721431006>>721431223This is you saying they're lying and that a fact that you know isn't true.
>>721432674https://www.nintendo.com/au/support/articles/can-these-classic-games-be-played-indefinitely/?srsltid=AfmBOor17dtMbYb4vCQYjKQ7_6IE6ADUpjIZU4V0rZ7RI6VJ6BjtoDEHCocksucking tendie faggot.
>>721419281is Switch 2
>>721430503>>the beginning of graphics > gameplaythis was usually the cope i heard from N64fags who spewed ''64 bits'' around every fucking corner despite the N64 having no good 2d gamesyou fuckers had to deal with the dogshit 3D Castlevania games while PSX owners got Symphony Of The Night
>>721433063https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/41205/~/nintendo-classics-%E2%80%93-nintendo-switch-online-overview-%26-faq#s1q6Lmao you tendie cultists are something else.
>>721433001>he thinks he needs to say it word for wordNot how language, let alone English, works ranjeet. What you've done is express doubt insinuating it's a lie hence the desire for evidence despite being a common issue.Basically what you've done is the equivalent to saying "you're telling me 1+1 is 2? That's a lie until you provide sufficient evidence, I don't care that its a fact."
I've never heard of anyone having to flip their PS1 in order to play games, but I HAVE heard about the PS1 getting hot enough to warp internal components, specifically of the disc reader
>>721419369>3d land, or 3d worldTake it back
>>721433802We don't have to prove a fact is right, it's a fact.The onus is on you to prove the fact is wrong.
>>721423450And you’re forgetting you have to lay $50 a year to rent the games. And it’s not even all of them. And the ones you do get aren’t all there at once. They’re going to drip feed them to you.
>>721434045In other words, you can't prove the very common issue was never a common issue.
I did not hate New Super Mario Bros. 2.
>>721434117Well duh, the issue was never that they were bad games but that they were repetitive.
>>721433331Sorry cultist. Try again next thread. I’m sure Nintendo appreciates your defense of them though. If only they could see it.
>>721433967>when he supplies his evidenceThe evidence is that it's common knowledge that ps1's had a defect that resulted in them only working when flipped over.Everyone knows this except you so you're the one who has to prove that what you believe is right.
>>721419369But I liked 3D Land. Everyone rages on it for being the weakest 3D Mario game but I always saw it as an experiment of trying to merge 2D Mario gameplay with 3D's.
>>721434348Jesus christ, how is flipping it going to bypass the region lock you fucking moron?
>>721434442And yet here you are still crying as if it's false. That Sony brand loyalty runs deep if you're getting this offended.
>>721434598He never will because it proves him wrong. That's why no one bothered posting earlier and just kept on making him mad
>>721434884See what I mean
>>721421112was this really that bad?
>>721435063>no story mode>no specials>only gimmick was WOW MEGA MUSHROOMIt was good in the sense that it could have just been a Wii Sports minigame but as a solo game it wasn't worth the price at all.
>>721419839Im sold. Like the virtual boy add on is so unhinged. Unwanted and unmarketable it loops back around to being interesting. Like it has to be some kind of joke.
>>721435479Honestly I'd probably buy it as an ornament or something. I'm never going to pay for the premium NSO but I always thought the design of the virtual boy was kind of cool.
>>721435479if it was free then yeah. but is $100 from your bank account a joke to you
>>721419281So I've been going through my Yuzu list and buying a bunch of it now that there's a better way to play it all with the Switch 2 and I thought I could skip this one, but I guess I'll go snag one now
>>721420223>>721422590True and why the rekindled Rosalina Galaxy spam is going to flop massively again
>>721435874>but is $100 from your bank account a joke to youWho do you think we are anon?I bought this for almost 200 bong bucks.
how about Mario Maker 2 is that still worth buying? They're probably doing a new one right?
>>721422473Because they had to change the code so the new powers didn't break the game. You people didn't even play the game.
>>721436661ah you know what that would make sense. if they wanted to add mario movie stuff to mario maker they could just do it with a switch 2 version too.
>>721436534They definitely have something in the works with Mario Maker to justify the mouse functionality
>>721419281At least it's better than Wonder
>>721419498>it sold a lot so it must be good!!ToTKs QoL fixes have rendered BoTW unplayable but at the same time it’s a pretty stupid fucking game in its own right
>>721437014>because you are not in the winning positionHe is though, he's presenting an irrefutable fact.
>>721419839It’s retarded but a little cool for Nintendo to acknowledge one of its biggest failures. At $100 it should be a standalone product without a need for the NSO
>>721419909>$100 for a hunk of plastic and visor and also you need the $449 console and also you need the $60 yearly rental subscription to play 14 shitty games that sucked 30 years ago
>>721437253The fact that PlayStation 1s had a defect resulting in them needing to be flipped to work.What next are you going to deny the red ring and yellow light of death?
>>721422473>6 years for glorified DLCBut enough about Silksong
>>721420917and they never put it on the switch. Crafted world was such shit in comparison
Nintendo on the whole hasn't really had a bad era. They always seem to just keep going along.Even the Virtual Boy isn't as bad as people think it is. It's just a kind of inconsequential sidegrade to the Gameboy. There's still a solid handful of legitimate games on it, even if one of them is Pinball, and one of them is Bowling.
>>721437542Oh my bad, continue
>>721419281I liked when they made a self deprecative sequel to this making fun of how repetitive these games are instead of making an interesting new game. Sonic Team tier bullshit lol
okay here you fucking faggots i searched it and got results
>two fucking retards arguing about the semantics of an argument over whether Nintendo made a good or bad business decision like 30 years agoWhat do either of you hope to get out of this
>>721419281actually
>>721437263i get a feeling they wanted to release this as a classic console but realised that anyone retarded enough to buy a Virtual Boy classic would also just buy a plastic shell for the switch
>>721430503>standardised pricing meaning games that didn't deserve to be 40+ now became 40+ like sports gamesJust because there was a standardized price, it doesn't mean that games couldn't be priced lower>the beginning of graphics > gameplay era with people more fascinated by what they saw instead of what they playedThere were grafics wars well before that, like with the Game Boy vs the Game Gear, and the bit wars
>>721422590lmao a this point nintendo could lose that money yearly for 50 years and still be alive, now with the switch success they probably can last a century
>>721419281I fucking hate this trend of using pictures with red borders as the thread starter.
>>721439601Luigi U is a good fucking game though
>>721439601>Best 2D mario platformerWhat did he mean by this?
>>721419498+5.82m from the Wii U release.
>>721419716Every time I boot up my Wii I'm surprised by how little of the library interests me.
>>721419281Fake fan or snoy. Pick one.
>>721419281the entirety of the wii u was their lowest point
You faggots already forgot this one. This literally killed Star Fox series. Captcha: M0ND0
>>721441290>>721441361niggersit's literally an asset flip of an asset flip
https://youtu.be/DM2DCflkA6s?si=OHb6ZMLCLk05lB1N&t=76
>>721419867Luigi U was good though. I even appreciated Mario U's easiness when playing multiplayer, and having another player be the tablet platform maker. I agree that as a single player game, Mario U is trash though.
>>721419281Since when did New Super Mario Bros. U get here?
NintendoGAF
>>721434314It's definitely one of my least favorite 3D Mario games, and that's says a lot, becsuse the game is pretty great.and it's miles better than Sunshine
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>>721442042Nah, I defend it, unless you dock points against it that the games got ported to switch>luigi u was a fun platformer with challenge>I didn't like 3d world, but plenty of people love it>Kirby and the rainbow curse was a fun budget game. I would have preferred if it was full price and longer though>wooly world was the best yoshi game outside of yoshi's island and MAYBE yoshi's story>captain toad was okay I guess>BotW, Tropical Freeze, and MK8 are fucking gold, they just get memory holed into switch games>Nintendo World was some of the funnest multiplayer I've had >wonderful 101>Hyrule Warriors>bayonetta 2>xenoblade chronicles x>The wii u games that are sort of obsolete now, but were better when they had the wii u's second screen, like pikmin 3, mario maker, rayman legends, wonderful 101I'm not going to say it's the best console ever, but it sure as hell had higher consistency than the fucking Wii, it's not the Wii U's fault 3rd parties or the public didn't give it a chacne
>>721443804Some retarded schizo got kirk'd
>>721442127Yep, genuinely one of my most hated games ever, /thread
>>721443991The Wii had a lot of good stuff too, for some reason people always just focus too much on the shoverlware.>Mario Galaxy 1 & 2>Sin and Punishment 2>Punch Out>Metroid Prime 3>XC1>Rhythm Heaven Fever>Return to Dreamland>DKCR>Monster Hunter Tri>Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword>Wii Sports Resort>Animal Crossing City Folk>Mario Kart Wii>Smash Brawl
