It was all on the developers, right?
It's on the manufacturer, there are no sizes smaller than 64 GB.
>>721462031Fuck smaller, Nintendo needs to start manufacturing 128 GB carts ASAPGame sizes are going up, not down
>>721461915Did the same shit with N64 carts. Alienated 90% of of third party support. Those that went back have battered wife syndrome. Fuck em.
>>721461915>unpopular among gamersPC went digital only like 3 centuries agoPS5/Xbox went digital like 5 years agoNow Nintendo gamers act surprised companies want to go digital only
>>721462179>PS5/Xbox went digital like 5 years agoBullshit many PS games come full on disc. That said many retards buy digital also statistics are manipulated with indie trash. dlcs and f2p shit. People didn't benefit from digital since prices and censorship only increased. At least some physical releases have uncensored builds.
>>721462031Most games are small still, with only a few AAA titles going beyond 64gb.First offer a 32gb cart to put an end to game key card bullshit asap, then offer a 128gb one once big games start being released.
>>721462179>Physically insert cart into system>Still have to download the game from the internetGame key cards are the worst of both physical and digital, there is no reason for them to exist.
>>721462726At least you can lend and sell them like any other physical copy, which beats pure digital. But they are worthless for preservation.
>>721462726It reminds me of late 90s/early 00s PC gaming, where you needed the CD in the drive to play the game. It'd almost be nostalgic if it wasn't for the fact that the very first thing everyone did after installing the game was download the NoCD patch.
>>721461915Nintendo made the keycards, so it's on them.
The read speeds aren't good enough to use off the cart for open world streaming. Nintendo needs a way to install to the hardware from the cart like Playstation does off the cd. One dev mentioned that it wasn't the price.
>>721463185It's Nintendo's greed.
>>721462179If you give a kid a console for their birthday with no games and a digital store, do you think they're gonna beg mom and dad for money to play a new warioware or sonic game every time it releases? No, they're gonna play whatever is free on the eshop, so Fortnite - or they play Mario Kart (that came bundled with the console) for a day and then they move on to all the different roblox games to entertain their adhd brains. Physical games gives more opportunities for gift sales.Digital only would kill so many franchises.
>>721463608>If you give a kid a console for their birthday with no games and a digital storeNobody does this>do you think they're gonna beg mom and dad for money to play a new warioware or sonic game every time it releases?Yeah? They get FOMO just like anybody else. Maybe not for the shit games that you mentioned though
>>721461915>It was all on the developers, right?Yes, developers who are too cheap to afford it.
>>721462031>there are no sizes smaller than 64 GB.because ninty asked them not to make them, the fuck else takes these cards nimrod?
>>721462673128gb existing doesnt mean turd parties will lose their minds an use them, it will be the opposite since the will be even more expensive than the 64gb ones...
Realistically these just exist to collect and aren't practical for storing games
>>721462606Companies aren't even gonna support it honestly>>721462726Gamekeys will always be better than digital only. Digital only locks you to 1 store and you don't get any box, a code in a box is literally the worst thing in the world besides digital.
>>721463965>Nobody does thisYeah, it's almost like physical needs to happen to let video games survive.
>>721462137Fuck are you talking about, Nintendo are developing 1-6gb video games for the Switch 2
Nintendo will soon use it for a first party bing bing wahoo and /v/ will suddenly love it, mark my fucking words.
>>721461915third parties are thinking that Nintendo is going to bail them out because their customers have jobs and are able to buy things.But they forget that those customers are very fucking picky about what they spend their money on. They're even picky about what nintendo games they buy and it causes losers who are into unpopular nintendo games to constantly seethe about the series that are far more successful.
>>721464003From what I've been able to gather, the tech behind these cards is in its infancy and the company manufacturing them hasn't been able to figure out any size smaller than 64 gigs. This isn't a case of Nintendo not wanting 32 gig or smaller cards to exist, it's a case of the technology for them not existing in the first place. Said infancy is also why they're so expensive to produce at the moment.Said manufacturer has said they're currently looking into more storage sizes for their partners (including Nintendo), so maybe it'll change. At the end of the day we don't know.I think this is a case of all parties being stuck between a rock and a hard place. Nintendo needed to boost read/write speeds to support modern games but the technology to do so is limited, this results in physical cards being too expensive for a lot of publishers to justify, defeating the point entirely in the end.
>>721464458Physical games are old tech, and the industry is already moving on. Most people bought the digital version of MKW for example. The only people holding onto physical games are old millennials. Most of them are too jaded or fatigued to even like modern games
>>721464618/v/ tendies you mean
>>721464836god why does this sound like UMDs back in 2007
>>721464003Why would they do that when it hurts their own bottom line? There's no reason for them to put a game less than 10 GB big like Donkey Kong Bananza on a 64 GB card unless it was the only option.
>>721464173Look at the games that use gkc. Many of them are 4gb, 12gb, etc. Then only a few are like 50gb which does show some publishers don't want to pay for the real card when by all means they should. But for the former? They can't justify the cost of a 64gb card for a game so small.So first offer 32gb cards, or reduce the price of the 64gb ones. That will get rid of 90% of gkc from the market.
>>721461915maybe you should stop bloating your games to over 64gig
>>721464836I think Nintendo could have a unique advantage of physical if it works out, even the gamekeys because then you're getting more value than digital only. Sony can't compete with that.
>>721462137Nintendo Switch games are not allowed to be a bloated mess unlike all other platforms.
>>721461915Yes, they are given the option and purposely ignoring it. It just N64 Cartridge all over again.
>>721464836It's worse because Nintendo is using TWO immature storage systems. The ones they use for carts that Macronix (?) makes and SDExpress. They're really gambling on Switch 2 being successful enough to lower the prices for these mediums otherwise it's gonna bite them in the ass hard.
Is Elden Ring every going to come out? I'm so tired bros..
>>721467028is not gonna bite THEM. It will definitely curl 3rd party tho
>>721466346>Most people bought the digital version of MKW for exampleIt was a pack-in, idiot, and most of those were codes, with the remainder being GKC which are also "digital versions".
>>721467028Micro SD Express isn't that much of a gamble, it's just the next iteration of one of the most widespread storage systems around. Cards are riskier, but also the only realistic option for physical games on a handheld device. All handheld PCs are digital-only including the upcoming not-Xbox handheld and if Sony really decides to make PS6 a hybrid, the handheld unit is definitely going to be digital-only and not use discs, as funny as that would look like.
>>721462137>I CANNOT PLAY MY COD WITHOUT 200GB OF TEXTURES
>>721467225MKW is not on a game key card, so you're just making shit up.
>>721466780>Nintendo now offers 32 gb carts>turd parties starts using them to publish their +50gb games that they could perfectly fit in a 64gb cart, so you still have an useless cart without a proper 1.0 version of the gamewhat's the fucking point
>>721466805>even the gamekeys because then you're getting more value than digital only.You really aren't. There's no practicality to key cards, it's all the inconviniences of physical and digital with none of the benefits of either.
>>721462160Uh oh sisters, I believe where we're heading with 3rd party support on Switch 2 ...
>Knows this information>Doesn't know how much they cost
>>721461915>according to an anonymous developerWhy are they acting like this is some top secret thing? Everyone already knows all you get are the 64GB card or Game Key Cards. Game Key Cards were also made by request of 3rd party developers.
>>721467776Retards say that but they clearly don't understand anything, digital only is the worst thing for consumers
>>721461915We've known that and the $16 a pop since the Arc hack.
>>721467859IIRC the ArcSys leak said they cost $15, which is a bit over 10 more than Switch 1 cards, and probably why Nintendo raised the price of its games by that amount.>Why don't most third parties just do that too?I don't know.
>>721468040Third parties have to pay nintendo fees too. The math works better for nintendo than third parties
The state of handheld gaming in 2025 is fucking SAD.Switch 2 sucks, the deck sucks, ally sucks, legion GO sucks. They all suck and are overpriced.Give me a 1080p VRR Z2 extreme handheld with a trackpad thats good and even then it still wouldn't be that good. Fuck handhelds they are a scam. One of the worst form factors to exist peddled by emulation fags and retro consooomers. Do you genuinely enjoy playing on a small ass screen? Just get a fucking 1080p gaming laptop for the same price and plug in a controller you twat.
>>721467916But key cards ARE digital, there's nothing "physical" about them, the card may as well be a piece of merchandise like Amiibo.
>>721468268See? You don't get it
>>721461915I hate the fucking key "cards" more than you can imagine.
>>721461915Both cartridges are slower than sd cards that's the problem. It's like Vita all over again. The cart and Sony memory card is slower than any third party microsd.
OI M8 YOU GOT A KEY CARD FOR THAT DERE GAME??!!?!?! *batons your switch*
>>721468224I think one of the new ayeneo or gpd has a trackpad but it is probably going to be $1500+
>>721464836switch 2 reads switch cartridges- they can just manufacture old carts with the new form factor for small games, since theyre not saturating the old bandwidth anyway.
>>721468326Pray tell, explain it to me then.
As long as you have space and as long as the games aren't fucking massive, there is nothing wrong with game key cards. Somehow 99% of people still fail to understand them. It's not 100% digital, but it's not 100% physical. Yeah I would always prefer 100% physical, but this is still way better than a one time use digital download code.
>>721461915This was the price of going physical on a handheld in 2025.The only other option would be keeping the Switch 1 carts but forcing installs on NS2 titles which people would be complaining about too.
>>721462179>People are surprised when the only company that still cares about physical is doing less physical
>>721461915Better than digital with no card
>>721468224>muh small screenfuck off. it's not my fault you have myopia. i hate you faggots whining about this shit all the time. do you keep your phone up to your face as well and bitch that it isn't a full sized monitor? kill yourself.
I'm mainly annoyed at third parties that are doing cross-gen releases where the Switch 1 version is fully physical but don't give the option to upgrade while the Switch 2 version is on a game key card.
>>721467776>You really aren't.Well you are since you can sell them.
>>721467776You can RESELL a gamecard.you CAN resell a Full Digital. If you are looking for a Full Physical, its awful. If you looking for a Full Digital cause "I dont like to carry physicial media", Its Awfulbut if you like Digital and like to sell games you completed, its the perfect choice.
>>721469003>buy game>buy dlc>get switch 2>move game onto switch 2>the fucking dlc does not move automatically>I turn my switch off before leaving home>I can no longer access the thing I paid for for the duration of my tripIf only something like a digital library existed. I'm going back to piracy the second I can for simplicity alone.
>>721470075>buy game>buy DLC>forget to bring my laptop with me on vacation>I can no longer access the thing I paid for for the duration of my tripNever buying laptops again, WTF
>>721470841>sign into new computer while on vacation >play game there>with dlcThere is no problem.
>>721470075>use your other switch that you didn't forget to transfer DLC onThere is no problem
>>721470075That's a (You) problem
>>721461915What grift is Nintendo trying to pull where 64GB memory is considered expensive.>tfw for the price of 1 Mario Kart World you can get a 1TB card and fill it with every game Nintendo has ever made since the NES.
>tfw lost all my cartridges from the 90s to wear and tear but all my backed up PC games are still just as pristineplastic always loses
>>721461915>It was all on the developers, right?It's both on Nintendo for even offering key-cards in the first place and the devs for being lazy fucking kikes.
>>721462179>PS5/Xbox went digital like 5 years agoDude digital adoption stagnated at 30% years ago. The charts you see have to lie and include digital only content and dlc.
>>721462606No they do not. You’ve had to download hame son the PS4 back in 2013. You also couldn’t play them off the disc once you downloaded them, you needed to have the disc in much like with key cards. Don’t try to lie, I literally had that console and distinctly remember all the times I waited for hours after release for games like Fallout 76 to re-download 80 GB of itself after every little update.
>>721471520Plastic always wins actually. Looks like you personally lost due to being poor and stupid.
>>721462179>PS5/Xbox went digital like 5 years agoYeahhh, and look how well that went for them
>>721469195Small screens literally cause Myopia. 300,000 years of basically nobody having it and within a few decades most of the world will have it.
texture whores ruined gayming
>>721462031Then why games that would require 64gb anyway are still on key cards?
>>721471520Sound like a you problem. I have a snes street fighter II world warriors cartridge that I found on the grass in a fucking park and it still works. Stop being a filthy third worlder.
>>721472176Because game key cards are cheaper and most publishers are all for pushing customers towards going digital.
>>721464481prime 4 is 30gbhyrule warriors is 45gb
>>721471359>DLC "card" is there>game "card" is notHmmm
>>721472436They were there in my hypothetical scenario.
https://youtu.be/XFDccmcmG8g?si=ldC5auLaWxeIeXE1UH OH STINKY
>>721472052No. your genes are the cause of this. blame your parents and cope.
If some dev says Switch 2 carts are too expensive look no farther than a small publisher like Marvelous putting all their games on cart.Not to mention $120 collectors editions that only include GKC.It's just greed, plain and simple.>>721464003You are an actual retard.The manufacturer needs to put money into setting up production lines. They aren't going to go that far for a single customer.>>721467028SD express are't immature. They've been around for years just no one had a reason to use them up to this point.
