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i fucking hate game remakes
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both look like shit but one was made in a much harsher technological context
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>>721476682
Sir, our Mumbai team is very professional.
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Explain what's wrong with right
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>>721477016
the one on the left is from his childhood so the one on the right is automatically bad
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>>721476682
What's wrong with the remastered version?
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>>721477016
no stylization. face scanned realistic slop.
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The CGI in Diablo II remake is one of the very few that impressed me.
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>>721476682
game devs were always chasing realism. you're retarded.
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>>721476682
i don't even know what this is
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>>721476682
you're a manchild
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>>721477186
Dark Wanderer's bitch boy
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>>721477113
>>721477114
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>>721477016
semitic
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>>721476682
The right one looks better.
And if you think Blizzard's animations weren't made by professionals at the time, I don't know what to tell you. These FMVs were the cream of the crop back in the day, and to be honest they hold up really well aside from a few weird shots like in OP's picture, they didn't need to be remastered.
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>>721477509
>The right one looks better.
certified goy cattle who feast on slop.
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>>721477016
It looks nothing like the left??? Are you trolling or genuinely this dense
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>>721477114
The other one looks like goofy shit
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>>721477596
You need to take a break from the internet.
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>>721477616
Left looks like shit.
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>>721477635
that's the point you retard

>>721477737
you're mentally handicapped
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>>721476876
>>721476682
Are we really shitting on D2:R which is one of the best remasters.

You can literally just play the game in the old version still by hitting a button.

You guys are fucking sooks. Get back to crying about Kirk you faggot bitches.
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Remake looks better, nostalgia fags think looking like shit is "stylization" lmao
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>>721476682
I do generally say old good new bad (Diablo 1 > Diablo 2) but this looks fine
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>>721477845
>one of the best remasters
Jesus gaming really is cooked.
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Is this the thread?
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what bugs me most about d2r is they made the stat and skill point icons floating
old d2 removed that with 800x600
they coulda added the option to always hide the quest one too but never did
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>>721477790
Left looks better gam-gam. time to let go, baldfat
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>>721478304
Got to love the obligatory nigdwarf. Thank Fink that this product was remade better.
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>>721478304
>top one has way more realistic armor and weapon designs
>bottom just went retarded fantasy mode with them
why tho
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>>721477016
ultimately >>721477114

the left Marius appears not just old and sleep deprived, but also possibly starved due to being inside the asylum. the depth beneath the cheek bones suggests this. the style allows for the exaggerated features to do this more easily than the realistic style. the realistic art style Marius on the right meanwhile, has to more closely obey the rules of "realism" which means that he can not be as old, tired, or starved as the left appears to be.
left Marius seems genuinely frail, while the right Marius seems merely hung over.

all this ignores the technical skill in replicating human features (Left Marius' ear, and the impossibly vibrant white hair that's in shadow, gg light renderer) and the visual fidelity limitation of 2000's video compression.
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>>721478304

old...
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>>721478643

...and new
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>>721476682
There is nothing funnier than retards mistaking bad early game CGI failure to capture the realism it's targeting as "stylization"
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>>721477121
I agree, it was very good. D2 remake was fun to play for a while since it didn't really change anything fundamentally but simply brushed up the graphics.
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>>721478175
>FOOOOOOOOKIN PRONOUNS
Still mogs the original and nothing you spill those chud tears over will change that
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>>721476682
>Made by amateurs
Fucking lmao
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>>721478927
I got one funnier, a genuine soulless goylem that thinks art becomes a failure due to advancements in technology.
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>>721478927
you are a retarded faggot, yes. we already know.
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>>721477616
Left one doesn't even look like a human.
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>>721479015
Not him but yeah I'm not playing shit that normalizes mental illness.
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>>721476682
>university educated
lmfao
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>>721478643
that art really takes me back
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>>721477016
>old good new bad!!
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>>721478837
Art direction got absolutely smoked by remasters. Abondoned lab level is so ass now and one where you go through city and avoid those flying things that are afraid of light is dogshit too in remasters. First GoW was going for horror elements with its gritty art direction and lighting and remasters fucked both lmao. I dont mind remasters and remakes but sometimes it really looks like its bunch of jeets just putting source code into default Unreal 5 wrapper and AI upscaling textures and thats it.
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>>721478927
It wasn't about failure. The artists that worked on those trailers understood, obviously, that they could not achieve photorealism with the tools of the time, the product they made was based on careful decision around that idea. They specifically and delberately had to utilize stylization to get a truly effective result regardless of whether they wanted the most realism possible or not
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>>721478837
holy shit, kill ALL niggers who cried about brown and bloom, they need to die for taking us here
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>>721478927
the flaws give it soul that modern streamlined manufactured processes fail to capture
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>>721476682
>Made by amateurs, with limited time and resources
Retarded post. I hope for your sake this is ragebait and not something you're dumb enough to assume.
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>>721479238
when your town is corrupted by diablo living underneath it isn't farfetched
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man diablo 2's cinematics were all so sick
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>>721479652
>humble man vs sociopathic narcissist
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>>721478837
Impressive. Never for a moment did I think I would miss brown and bloom, or ever say it's superior to anything yet here we are. I guess this happens when you outsource the job to Mumbai.
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>>721476682
Boomer.
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>>721477016
ultimately >>721479302

these two baboons
>>721477114
>>721478627

will make up all kinds of bullshit to justify their nostalgia
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>>721477016
>left: really old guy, emphasis on his cheek bones, wrinkles under his eyes, sunken eyes. It's a cartoon.

>right: Tim Roth with makeup. Doesn't look that old or miserable. Goal is "this CG looks like like real life. Isn't that impressive?"
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>>721480015
retard
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>>721478472
>Left looks better
Glad you came around
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>>721480224
faggot
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>>721478627
Left looks like he's made of playdough and took a hit of acid since his eyes are fucked.
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>>721480015
>new good! Must consume new! Ignore the reasonable detailed arguments! New is better, duh!
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>>721477016
nothing. If you talk to anyone on the planet that isn't fucked up from 'old good new bad,' they'll say right looks better.
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>>721478304
Gatekeep your hobbies and interests
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This is wild.
I've never heard ANYONE shit on Diablo 2R's cutscenes before. They look great.
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>>721478627
>>721477016
Left Marius looks cartoonish and there is nothing behind his eyes since there is quite literally no iris so the greater and more subtle ability to express emotion is absent. His head is entirely too disproportionate and block like and his lips have a soft clay-like textur e and a poorly animated pursing draw to them, which overall gives him a Claymation or Reboot look. Right just looks like a crazy old guy.
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>>721476682
Funny how you always try to pin it on the devs, and not the studio leads and management that both told them to make it look like this and decided to put it to market. They're the ones that are actually telling you to pay for this crap. Don't blame the cow for shitting when it's the farmer that's shoveling it over your fence.
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>>721478607
because that's what the miniatures in the box look like
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>>721481058
>This is wild.
okay zoomer
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>>721481419
I'm not a zoomer. I survived 9/11.
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>>721477016
The lighting and expression
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>>721480893
>gatekeeping videogames
this. we must gatekeep the thing that has been normalnigger's delight since the 70's arcade boom
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>>721477016
Nothing
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>>721477016
Death of an art form. There's no simpler way of putting it.
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>>721481560
>gay little alphie that doesn't remember before 2007
You absolutely could not tell normalfags that you were into vidya, DnD, or any nerdy hobby without ridicule before the 2010s.
Even when the Lord of the Rings films came out, normalfags had to justify liking them by saying it was different than that "nerdy DnD stuff."
So, yes, gatekeep your hobbies and interests, and don't let alphie troons try to rewrite history and say they were always in the "nerd" scene.
>t.born before 95
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>>721477016
>people who work to earn money and higher quality livelihoods are le bad because they aren't heckin middling creatives
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>>721476682
D2R is genuinely the best remake/remaster, all they did was try to remake everything as faithfully as possible and overlay the new art assets over the preexisting logic engine. this character design change is a nitpick, but regardless it was probably made by the main nuBlizz cinematics team and not Vicarious Visions (who were based as fuck before getting absorbed into nuBlizz). y'all are faggots if you're lashing out at Vicarious Visions in particular.
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>>721477016
left = seen some shit
right = seen by left
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>buying Diablo 2 Reforged after Warcraft 3
Shiggy.
Please tell me you faggots didn't
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>>721478837
Despite being more desaturated grey brown bullshit of its era, I can actually see the silhouette of the enemy in the OG more than I can in the bloom filled mess of the remake.
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>>721478596
I thought you were joking but Habro is completely pozzed.
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>>721479015
Why do you argue for the destruction of games? You don't even buy them.
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>>721478738
Looks like only the background and dragon were rendered together while the rest was just slapped on without giving a fuck.
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>>721482129
i should also be clear, Vicarious Visions was trying to do everything that we would've wanted but got hamstrung by nuBlizz.
they recovered all the original art and tried to recreate it as faithfully as possible.
remember how there was supposed to be extensive mod support? nuBlizz axed that. in fact, the VV devs indicated that system was fully developed and they had to simply remove it.
so if you want to complain, please aim it at the head retards and not at the devs on the ground floor that meant to do something wholly Good.
besides, you guys could be complaining about far worse remakes instead like Demon's Souls PS5, one of the biggest travesties that deserves far more blowback so their approach is never attempted again.
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>>721482260
I did. It’s the best remaster of any game, and arguably the definitive way to play the game.
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>>721482892
It shouldn’t really come as a surprise that an online multiplayer game with cheater problems won’t allow mods. I would have axed that either if I was in business decision position.
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>>721481865
You must have been some bullyable faggot. Me and my buddies talked about videogames all the time. I still remember inviting people over to play Mario 3 fer wwatching thehe Wizard in summer camp and bringing SNES into independent study to play trash like Earthworm Jim. I remember fights breaking out at a pool hall over MK3. But yes, DnD and mtg were for fags and got you bullied, but too many people played videogames. I remember going to a rugby tournament nd playing NFL Blitz all night in a hotel room
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>>721483149
then they shouldn't have announced and developed it in the first place. who said I was "surprised"? it wasn't "my problem" until they conjured it from thin air.
and obviously mod support would be locked down in several ways. you wouldn't just allow it to be directly used on official ladder servers, Anon...
if nuBlizz wasn't shit they would have seized the opportunity to provide paid modding infrastructure like a more robust version of custom games in WC and SC. all these D2 mod projects would be going thru them, which is exactly what they act like they want, given their problems in the past with, for example, DotA. permanent cashflow from boomers. but what this indicates is all they wanted was a quick cashgrab from the launch and nothing else.
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>>721483936
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>>721478643
>>721478738
Ruining the iconic everquest babe is unforgivable
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>>721478304
bottom looks like ai
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>>721479652
>I haven't played it
>I won't play it
World of difference
Kojima is a hack
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>>721484290
It's probably not. AI usually fucks up backgrounds by not putting as much effort into them, and most of the background characters and terrain is still readable, if overdesigned.
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>>721478837
Why the fuck does the lighting get worse as years go by, why can't shadows exist anymore?
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>>721476682
RIP Asmondad
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>>721484715
because muh bloom and muh godrays and other shit get in the way and often aren't used very well
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>>721476682
the remake cutscenes look great. i usually can see what the chuds say when they shit and piss their pants about remakes but the d2 remaster is great and the cutscenes look fantastic. i really fail to see the issue.
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>>721478627
>>721480039
>right has dry lips, bloody gums, wringled skin everywhere, bloodshot eyes, sunken cheeks, thinning hair, multiple eyebags which are discolored not into grey, but red, suggesting it's the freshest skin, probably because that's where he was touching his face to keep awake
>I can't even tell he's tired and malnourished!
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if the diablo 2 remaster isnt good enough, i really do wonder what is good enough for /v/. you seemingly cant win.
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>>721476682

I really hate this remaster. People rave about it as if it's good but it looks like shit to me. All of the item art looks ridiculous, most of the spells and enemies look like shit and the Paladin looks like a 70 IQ crack addict
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>>721476682
there is nothing remotely wrong with right, some of you just want to whine like children
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>>721478643
>>721478738
>removed the black person
kinda racist ngl
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>>721484715
Because real shadows haven't been invented yet then sir. You can only have them now, if you enable Nvidia's RealShadowTracingFinalV3 (that will be -200 fps)
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>>721485134
New games and not doing the past again with """improvements""".
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>>721479867
>>721484401
Whole different situation you disingenuous retards.
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>>721484715
the industry is filled with people who think good art direction is 'unrealistic'
it reminds me of Jon Favreau when he's talking about the Lion King CG remake and he's going on about how the original movie being colorful is 'unrealistic'
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>steady paycheck
>games industry
Don't make me laugh.
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>>721478304
whats with everyone having to scream
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>>721476682
>when all 3 kid's college funds runs out and cannot take out another mortgage for a vacation
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>>721476682
>hmm yes today I will make a team of people and together we will spend three years making a video game without any source of income and once we will just I dunno go homeless from all the debt we accumulated lol
anon what
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>>721476682
What's the point of overlaying these narratives like the OG devs were "amateurs"? the face on the left is actually very detailed and well done, not done by an amateur at all. It's almost like both are done by skilled professionals, using the technology of their time.
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>>721485075
Left conveys a more haggard appearance than right, is not just realistic details, it's the style in which the face expresses emotion. Right could be a neutral expression or whatever expression modern actors do because they can't act.
We don't value creativity based in how accurately it can replicate real life in the end. Also you are a nigger and a faggot too.
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>>721479015
Fuck blizzard and fuck you for supporting they/them/it
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>>721486137
That's just normies. Realistic = for adults.

I watched Bad Guys 2 earlier this year and holy shit that was so well animated and voiced but ultimately the audience is for that is small compared to the people who want to see their favorite actor playing in Marvel slop #234.
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>>721486137
Disney is a soulless zombie without identity

https://characterdesignreferences.com/art-of-animation-7/art-of-the-lion-king-part-4
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>>721486937
>but ultimately the audience is for that is small
Which is why the art style for that movie is simple on the technical rendering end. They made it profitable by budgeting properly for its audience. Where-as cape slop somehow all need 300mil budgets.
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d2 remake is one of the best next to demons souls . op just a seething poor fag like the delusion faggots who tried to say original oblivion looks better than remake lol, straight delusion
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>>721476682
Me too but I don't play them so they don't affect me. As a result, I hate people like you who essentially smear shit on the internet by constantly spamming garbage that everyone hates more than remakes.
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>>721487217
Capeshit is hard to render? I don't know, it feels like CGI sticks out and you can tell that it's a greenscreen. Like the movies are done so quick and most money goes to marketing and actors.
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>>721477016
no soul
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>>721485513
This. I never stopped playing Diablo II. Never needed a "remaster" and I'll never touch it.
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Very soon we'll see "controversies" of games and movies looking like they're full of soul, and then the filmmakers will be exposed for having used a ton of ai for it and it will be disavowed retroactively.

People already can't tell the difference between ai and non-ai. As the tech advances, the only meaningful difference will soon be the knowledge of it being made by a human or not,, and people will be in a constant fight trying to figure it out or not, with some people embracing the idea of a coin flip, where if they don't know if it is or isn't beforehand. that's good enough for them, even if they end up consuming a ton of ai content.
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>>721480893
Bottom would work fine if you cut out the pastel eyesore, manic pixie dream girl, and one of the two lesbians.
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>>721480893
I found a pretty cool scifi tabletop game. Came out last month. Already has a good amount of lore and they have some decent writers. I think this time around I will not show my friends.
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>>721480893
Simply don't have lame friends and you'll find yourself somewhere in the middle, top looks like the most generic Everquest free trial shit I've ever seen.
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>>721477737
even if that was true it wouldn't matter
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>>721480893
But the bottom looks better.
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>>721476682
Marius as a plot device was about as retarded as Stratholme
>Hey come here and yank out this soulstone pls come on pls im totally not psyopping you or soft mind controlling you
>ok
>MARIUS YOU FOOL
>GO, UNARMED CIVILIAN OF ADVANCED AGE, TO THE MOST CORRUPTED SPACE FULL OF EVIL DEVIL THINGS AND DIVE THROUGH A PORTAL TO HELL GUARDED BY THE THREE MOST POWERFUL CREATURES TO EVER COME OUT OF HELL
>No im too scared pls
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>>721477016
Nothing. If they used right back in 2000, people would have their mind fuckin' blown.
Conversely, if they used left today in the year 2025, people would rightfully say it's shit
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>>721488932
Yeah and if Da Vinci had Maya and ray tracing Da Vinci’s demons would have looked like Unreal tech demos too. It’s literally just tools advancing, not some objective elevation in taste. But people love pretending modern = better, like half the current industry isn’t just HDR skin pores slapped on soulless facemashes and depth-of-field filters.
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>>721478304
what game is this?
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>>721477016
Right was churned out by Indians working for a dollar an hour in some content mill while working on a dozen other Unreal engine remakes.
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>>721477016
High fidelity is not a replacement for style.
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>>721481560
You say that but aside from casual tendie shit vidya was and is for the most part niche. No one really gave a shit about it until around 07/08 when nerd culture became hip and trendy.
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>>721489597
Snoy's first console sold like 60m and then continued to climb.
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>>721485513
nice "but i did have breakfast this morning" tier reply, sperglord faggot. i am obviously talking about in the context of remakes and remasters. i also dont care for nor do i want remakes/remasters, but when we are getting them they might as well be good just like diablo 2 and resident evil 1.
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>>721490332
Crash Bandicoot and other shit is still casual normalfag shit.
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>>721477114
>slop
I'm so sick of this buzzword. Can we come up with something new already?
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>>721490617
Exactly. I fail to see how videogames haven't been for normalniggers for like 30 years.
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>>721478596
that and the femorc.
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im watching the original and remake cutscenes side by side. Here is my feedback:
1. Jail/asylum
The baal having robes in the original is better design than the cape in the remake. The light coming through the window in the original being more clearly defined trapping marius is a 'cell' of light is much more impactful. Original tyrial design is just better. Likewise the dialogue matches the movements of the original better than the remake.

2. Tavern
Remake is better in pretty much every way. If i had to find a criticism its the lack of lamp shadow right at the end as marius is leaving the burning tavern.

3. Act 2 Desert
The first part pre dream is again simply better in all ways with the remake.

4. Act 2 Dream
The dream sequence has a few things that are worse such as the lack of distortion/burryness at points which helped sell the dreamlike nature, as well as tyral design again. the old diablo2 design of the strands of light being brighter and less well defined fit a lot better than the new blueish white design.

5. Act 3
The original takes this. The only way the remake is better is just by being more advanced. The animations, the framing, the design, original has better composition.

6. Act 4
Remake is better here. They stuck to script and just made it better

7. Epilogue
Original has better animation matching the voice acting and since thats most of the scene original wins here. The end with baal walking away looks better in the remake, but thats just modern graphics. The rats were a nice touch though

8. Act 5 intro
Original is just flat out better. I cant even say its much of a graphical improvement. The lighting contrast in the original is way more impactful, along with baals design and animation

9. Act 5 end
Original. Remake fucks up how the 'substance' of the wings and worldstone come across, and breaking it in the remake is just like a big red rock broke, in original it reflects properly the lores metaphysical status of the rock.
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>>721490990
Because it’s always the same shallow shit you retarded child. 90% moved on once they hit 12.
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>>721488096
AI use for in-between frames while the artist does the key frames would be good.
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>>721478175
Any futa elves?
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>>721485038
Why you racist?
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>>721492228
I remember thinking the action looked awkward as fuck when Tyrael fought tal'rasha in the remake
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>>721493012
?
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>>721492228
Thank you for the honest take, anon.music.
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>>721486137
>Right only ever happened because they couldn't do left back then
Insane to think about, honestly.
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>>721477114
The old version has no style either, that was them attempting to be as realistic as possible.
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>>721477016
new=bad
old=good
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>>721476682
does resurrected have the option to watch the original cutscenes?
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>>721476682
Right looks better. Cope seethe and dilate
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>>721482158
kek
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>>721492228
I agree.
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>>721476682
How the fuck did Marius venture out of Kurast and inside the Durance of Hate level 3?
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>>721496462
Someone gave him the Durance of Hate level 2 WP and he let his twinked out merc handle the mobs.
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>>721496558
>being so obsessed with old games that you can't stop remaking them
lol, lmao even
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>THEY SLIGHTLY CHANGED THE SHADE OF GREEN ON A BLADE OF GRASS WHAT THE FUCK
these are all the complaints im seeing so far.
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>>721478304
>barbarian's face
of course, how else would they attract the zoomer audience without a screaming face right at the center
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>>721496558
Sorry Le Dasha, no one wants to play your barely functional game about how hard it is being a fat black single mother in the projects for 70 dollars. That's an incredibly niche audience you're appealing to.
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>>721496816
>these are all the complaints im seeing so far.
>deliberately not reading the thread
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>>721477016
Worse things have soul.
>winning the lottery: soulless
>getting gang raped and murdered in Mumbai: SOVL
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>>721497736
remastered games are made by medriocre devs, back then mediocre devs made shit games nobody played, good devs are making original games
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>>721498262
>having sex: soulless
>masturbating in Walmart and getting arrested on a serious sex crime because a child saw me: SOVL
Sounds about like what you're saying.
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>>721479015
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>>721477016
>Explain what's wrong with right
From my childhood = Good
Not from my childhood = Bad
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>>721489048
>>721496986
Its the boxart from the formerly-based Hasbro board game HeroQuest. It has an unreleased Nintendo game based on it. The company went full DEI without hyperbole, hoping to have 50% female employment by 2025. They have been sued for their insanity.
https://aflegal.org/press-release/america-first-legal-files-federal-civil-rights-complaints-against-americas-largest-toy-companies-for-illegal-racial-discrimination-and-promoting-a-radical-lgbt-agenda/
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/diversity-inclusion/563975-hasbro-insider-claims-company-wants-to-teach/
https://csr.hasbro.com/en-us/downloads/esgreporting/esgreport/dei/DEI_report_2021-2022.pdf
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>>721490980
Fuck off, faggot.
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>>721499240
kek
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>>721480893
oh look its the artist who designed all males in deadlock
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>>721496558
Then make a good game, you fucking nigger. You're kind have been trying for fifteen fucking years and you can't.
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>>721477016
On the left we have a character and on the right its just some guy.
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>>721478304
>>721478738
Its like going from Conan the Barbarian to WoW, everything looks like fucking toys or something.
>>721480893
Look at these smarmy faggots, ready to burst into Marvel quips and sexual induendo at a moments notice.
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>>721476682
>left looks near death
>all that's left of him is skin and bones
>you can easily imagine what his soon-to-be bare skull will look like
>right is just an old dirty guy
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>>721484047
Ew what the actual fuck.
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>>721483936
>>721484047
Prime example of a needless demake.
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I love SOul vs soulEss threads :)
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>>721502792
True SOVL. If you play good games, you're an amerimutt golem goy jeet shill consoomer paypig with sunk cost fallacy.
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>>721485513
/v/ doesn't like new games either
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>>721477016
>the retards complaining about old good new bad
okay but did you ever explain why new is better than old ever
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>>721478837
Ultimate > Classic > Reloaded
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>>721504870
>v is one person
also all the "new" games i see faggots defending are always AAA fucking big IP company games.
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I thought the diablo 2 remake was mostly good. Them taking away the nudity and making the amazon a tranny was a shame but otherwise I enjoyed it for the most part. Mods fix a lot of the issues.
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>>721480893
What is the bottom style called? I see it in a lot of new comics and it looks like fucking ass. The color tones are ass, heavy black line weights look like ass, the flat colors and semi-pillow shading looks like ass, the shitty "run overlay black at 40% opacity to make a shadow" looks like absolute fucking trash and is something I'd only expect from a place like Deviant Art.
I know it sounds like I hate it, but it's more so just extremely fucking bad and I'm confused as to why it's in everything illustrated now. The top is literally easier to make and looks better.
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>>721478304
>>721478738
What is this style called? Surely WoW alone can't be responsible for making fantasy look cartoony as fuck.
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>>721505515
Warcraft and WoTC were the earliest prominent users of it that I can recall. WoW did the first major permanent blow of quality to video games. Prior to it the mark of quality was Ultima Online which was obsessively crafted by a hyper autistic renaissance man who was fixated on Shakespeare and Britain. WoW was made by a bunch of fat faggots who would call you an evil racist singapoor yellow rice pecker at a movements notice.
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>>721488807
Yeah, the Diablo story really, really didn't hold up at all.
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>>721478304
World of Warcraft has been an absolute fucking travesty for all fantasy related vidya aesthetic. Decades later and we are still suffering from this malignant art tumor
There were signs of it in Diablo 1 and 2 but they were much more subdude
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>>721476682
Remastered looks better
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>>721476682
played d2 for years back in the day. I like new cinematics.
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>>721478607
>Top
>Realistic armour and weapon designs
Uh...
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>>721505784
>those giant fucking retarded pauldrons and
I hate this shit. Does anyone have that one comic?
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>>721492228
a resonable take anon
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>>721476682
Horizon zero dawn remastered was not perfect, but still waaaay better
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>>721486137
>>721480893
>>721478304
Sometimes I imagine long into the future comparison images like these will be projected in classrooms teaching about the enshitification of 21st century western cultural output
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>>721505692
I'm not too familiar with MtG but weren't a lot of the earlier cards quite grounded in the older fantasy aesthetic? And given they started as RTS first, Warcraft and Starcraft I can cut some slack with exaggerated looks by virtue of unit silhouettes, and things like earlier tabletop miniatures might do it with features due to tech limitations and modeling lenience (ie space marine pauldrons masking mistakes).

Suppose it's not far-fetched to believe that WoW did a big number on its own given it used to have a fuckhuge userbase, while other things like LoL probably locked it in and WotC perhaps more or less got more people inspired by the former than oldschool sword and sorcery stuff, on top of digital artistry.
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>>721476682
>EAST... ALWAYS INTO THE EAST
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>>721476682
D2R was a legitimately great remaster though
only downside of it was no TCP/IP play for modders
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>>721484047
The fuck happened to the hud? Why are modern devs so allergic to good UI design?
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>>721476682
You mean newbie, nepotism hires.
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>>721488807
marius is a good character
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>>721490980
I prefer slurry
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>>721482129
the remastered cinenmatics were dogshit and that comes with me playing the remaster first cause i missed out on diablo 2 when it came out. they removed the snowing weather outside the tavern in the opening cinematic. dumbasses removed the atmosphere.
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>>721479015
You only played it BECAUSE of this change.
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>>721476682
d2r is great
fuck off cunt
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>>721477845
You guys are the only ones bringing up Kirk out of nowhere. Fight your own battles.
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>>721477114
This.
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>>721484715
Standardization of game development (outsourced to jeets) had led to the utter death of art direction.
Also arrogance, the game industry thinks itself above old methods like baking shadows into textures because it's a simpler and better way to achieve shadows, they'd rather just slap goytracing on it and never think about it again
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>>721488807
all of the things you listed are my reasons for liking the character
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>>721477016
Weirdly it feels very cartoonish
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>>721480893
>The juggler
>We're LGBTQIA++ btw
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>>721478627
I can’t take chatgpt posts seriously
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>>721480893
I wouldn’t play either desu
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>>721480893
mighty nein's design is totally fine except for this fucking kike
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It appears your terms.... are unacceptable~
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>>721478627
trvke
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>>721509515
I keep seeing this haircut everywhere in media for some fucking reason.
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>>721477016
it objectively looks better thats why its bad!
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>>721476682
>D2
>made by amateurs
>limited time and resources
poser zoom zoom alert
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>>721476682
the only real crime in d2r are the hideous player models
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>>721479015
>fooking pronouns
he won btw
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>>721480893
Top is still bad because of le strong indpendent feminist warrior thot. You think society started decaying in 2016, I realized it started decaying somewhere in the 50s.
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>>721501843
this
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>>721477104
/thread
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>>721478304
I fucking hate warcraft so much
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>>721507386
If anything it's a consequence of the series being a ripoff of Warhammer, where the miniatures give all the units more cartoons designs
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>>721476682
Why does it have to be a remake?
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>>721476682
>d2
>motivated by love for video games
>when blizzard were very open about making game that will be played by people who don't like video games
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>>721477016
It looks good, but not particularly faithful.
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>>721476682
new one has soul
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>>721476876
The diablo 2 cutscenes look fucking incredible. Obviously a 2000 game cutscene doesn't have subsurface scattering and shit but artistically they were top notch. Look at nu-marius vs old marius, old marius looks like a dried up skeleton with truly pitiful facial proportion, he's an old man with nothing left, NOTHING because he made companion with the devil. Nu-marius looks like alcoholic uncle johnny.
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>but you need path tracing and fake frames!!!
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>>721478927
Working within the technical/artistic limitations you have and representing something other than how it looks like for real is what stylization is, dumbass.
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>>721477016
it lacks the masculine energy
since you are an emasculated bug man you cant see it



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