The Last of Us is the first true video game.

>>721477187
didn’t ask

>>721477187
>Play old game I’ve never played
>enjoy it
>must be nostalgia

K

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>zoomgroid mad his generation's media sucks balls
many such cases

>>721477673
Boomers say the sane thing about your childhood

>>721477187
>Nostalgia
so true. Modern hits like Avowed and Concord are totally at the level of Morrowind and Team Fortress

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>play an old game for the first time as an adult
>realize games actually were better back then and it was not nostalgia at all
Your response, OP???

>>721477798
Boomers were wrong, Millennials are right
>t.zoomer

name a single modern game with sovl so i can laugh at you

>>721477798
>>721477938
Boomers and Millennials are right.
>t.x

>>721477938
Millennial and zoomers are more similar than they are to boomers, your opinion is irrelevant

>>721477187
No, they genuinely were better made at least the actual good and even mid-level games. You can play Tengo Project's stuff and still get that same feeling. Modern gaming is slop designed by committee with 20 different sub-studios that have no communication and half of it is farmed out to jeets as well and all of it is trying to be movies.

>>721477798
And they're wrong. The 1990s through the mid-2000s is basically the peak of childhood history.

>>721477904
What game?

>>721477187
Games were made for Whites and Asians in the 90's. If you find yourself repulsed by modern gaming then that's a good thing, it's a sign of humanity.

>>721477187
Everything has an era where it reached its peak. Late 80s to early 2000s was probably the golden age of vidya. So its not a matter of being blinded by nostalgia.

>>721477673
Quite the contrary. Every known record is being broken.

>>721478364
Not him but, I wanted to play ocarina of time and majoras mask since forever because I liked how they looked but never had a n64. I made a good pc recently, and finally emulated them. Guess what? They are both in my top20

>>721477187
Okay now judge all your own favorite games and media using that point of view. Nothing you like is good on its own merits, you're just a child.

>>721477520
> 'pick me' simp
stop trying to impress millennials. they won't fuck u

>>721477798
I dont give a fuck what boomers say. They got to experience a booming economy back then while the majority of us were still in diapers or havent even been born yet. Besides according to the matrix, civilization peaked in 1999.

>>721478876
post your 3 favorite modern games coward

>>721478992
Define modern.

>>721477334
That was just a remake of snake eater

>>721479078
Anything released after 2005

>>721477187
The answer is economics and the passage of time. Nobody is going to invest millions of dollars on making a PSX-scale game anymore. No team is going to build up the seniority required to do it well anymore. There's only overextended AAA slop that can't afford to be risky or creative because of the massive production budget, and whatever indies can afford to produce alone in their basements. Everything in between is dead.

>>721478364
Recently?

Contra Hard Corps
The Ninja Warriors Again
Gekisha Boy (uber based game that could never be made today)
Baldur's Gate 1
Morrowind
Shadowrun for the Sega Genesis

>>721479359
>Nobody is going to invest millions of dollars on making a PSX-scale game anymore
aren't psx games small by current standards? Open world slop which is dime a dozen now wouldn't have been possible on PSX

>>721479872
holy slop

>>721480401
Hang yourself

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>>721477187
I'll give an answer from a non-nostalgic perspective. Older games respected your time. You just booted up the game and start playing. New games are like 100GB and have all these DLCs, microtransactions, multiple unskippable cutscenes, some movie-style plotline, a giant open world, its too much and as an adult you dont have time for it. I believe this is also why modern indie games are so popular nowadays, cause they respect your time and you can be done with it within an hour.

>>721477187
I just played and beat Aladdin on the SNES for the first time a couple days ago. Even a half-baked movie tie-in from the early 90s is better than a grand majority of new releases. That's the state of modern games.
Anyway this thread is just gonna be mostly pointless shitflinging, so should I try out the Genesis version too? I've seen people say it's better because Aladdin has a sword but the SNES game was plenty fun.

>>721480457
You could've at least chose good games you complete fucking retard. You chose some of the absolute worst and are a total poser faggot subhuman

>>721480467
this
fucking god do i hate tutorials
it's never like "welcome to the worlds of niggertopia here's how to be the best nigger you can be with helpful tips and tricks" it's literally like basic instructions on how to operate the controller and highlighting all the ui elements and explaining pointless shit like i have never played a game before

>>721480585
Then post games that you think are good, retarded niggerfaggot.
>and are a total poser faggot subhuman
But all of those I either 1CC'd or played 50-100+ hours minimum. I finish every game I play. Cope harder.

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>>721477187
Not true.
The pre-casualization era (circa 2006) vidya simply was more diverse, varied, more challenging, less patronizing, more daring and often had far deeper gameplay, stories / themes, and superior art-design.

Countless mid-to-late 00s' kids have been "finding" this pre-interwebs era gaming treasure trove, getting their young minds positively blown after decades of toxic e-sport and disposable AAA movie-slop.

>>721478509
You're also the first generation where all of you seem to think metrics like records and numbers actually matter. Before you guys we used to say these things appeal to the lowest common denominator which was just mindless normies but now you're all mindless normies so you never hear anyone make that statement anymore.

>>721480896
>1cc
>in Morrowind
>in Shadowrun
>in BG1
>in some shitty photography meme game
yeah ok retard

>I finish every game I play
You want a medal big boy?

>Then post games that you think are good
I could name 30 better games just that I've beat this year. Fuck off idiot.

>>721481085
>either 1CC'd
>OR
>played for 50-100+ hours
>>>>>>too retarded to understand what this sentence structure means
Please kill yourself and remove yourself from the gene pool immediately (not like you will have children either way)
>I could... uhhmmm..... uhhhhhh...............
Yeah that's what I thought you genetic dead end faggot.

>>721480981
grok is this true?
>Record-keeping for sales began with the earliest civilizations; for instance, Mesopotamian farmers around 8000 BCE used tokens to track agricultural products, the earliest known form of record-keeping.
Hmm..

>>721481384
>crying this hard over getting called out for shit taste
Lmao you are big manchild permavirgin crybaby faggot

>>721477187
seething tranny, i love to see it
47% yourself, faggot

>>721481384
you have normalfaggot cattle taste, get over it.

>>721477995
define "modern game" first

>>721481532
Can't even pick up on what I'm saying and relying on AI to provide a response. You guys are a lost cause.

>>721481913
You got debunked sadly.

>>721478364
dossun! ganseki battle, zero 4 champ rr-z, wrecking crew '98
now proceed to tell me how i would have played any of those extremely japan exclusive games as a kid in the 90s when i never even knew they existed, and then kill yourself

>>721481807
why are you avoiding the question? pick a
your own definition and list a game

>>721479236
hylics 1, drod rpg 2, melty blood actress again: current code

>>721481579
>the sheer autismal seethe and projection
>with absolutely nothing to back it up
Loving every laugh.
>>721481723
Embarrassing samefag.

>>721477187
eat shit retard

>>721480981
this is too true, and it's the central problem with zoomniggers, they're all such unrepentant soulless retarded niggers who need to be culled for the good of humanity

>>721477187
its because old games let you use your imagination and develop a closer attachment to the game, modern games show and say too much, its less an experience and more like being in fucking class

>>721480896
Cave Story
ALTTP
Sin & Punishment
Banjo Kazooie
Rollercoaster Tycoon (OpenRCT2 now)
Max Payne (1)
RE4
Contra Super C
Elevator Action Returns
Katamari Damacy
Metal Slug
Star Fox 64
Pikmin 2
Raiden II
Fallout (1)
Rayforce
MGS3
Paper Mario
Ratchet & Clank 2
ICO
Red Alert 2
Crash Bandicoot (1)
DKC
Animal Crossing (GCN)
Streets of Rage 2
Batsugun
Rocket Knight Adventures
Super Monkey Ball
Castlevania Bloodlines
Revenge of Shinobi
Katamari Damacy

Now those are classics. You're naming bullshit.

>>721477187
its not I i've just played all the gba Castlevania games, I've never played any before
1st felt the oldest but the 2nd best
2nd felt the smoothest to play but it was ok
3rd is just the best of the 3 and one of the best games ever

>>721478364
American Mcgees Alice

>>721482257
I debunked him >>721481532

>>721482503
you're beyond retarded and also vantablack, proceed to your nearest cliff and jump off

>>721477995
Demon's Souls
Astro Bot
Cuphead
Hotline Miami 2
Furi
Darkest Dungeon
GTA IV
XCOM
Thumper
Catherine
Mario Galaxy
LittleBigPlanet
Mass Effect 1

>>721477187
you're retarded and need to stop sharing your retarded thoughts with the world
a toddler can identify why old games are more fun than new ones

>>721482292
Well said, anon. Well said. I agree.

>>721477187
Your walking movie simulators are shit.

>>721482371
LMAO I've literally played over half of those already you motherfucking nigger. You got exactly the type of shit I play on your list and you're sperging out over my recent plays? Utterly baffles the mind.
You are genuinely mentally ill and you need to get off the internet immediately.

>>721482292
Yes I would definitely say the level of abstraction in older games actually helped players get more immersed in the game compared to the way modern games do things. This to me feels more immersive than anything in modern games:
https://youtu.be/ccvufhTBcWc

>>721482371
>most basic bitch taste imaginable

>>721477995
diofield has soul
Unicorn Overlord
Voice of Cards
Wasteland 3

Nioh 2

>>721483072
>I like good games I just chose to name dogshit instead
you sure got me, good one bro

>>721482371
>I only play games on top 100 lists: the post

>>721483128
I've beat tons of niche games but the classics are classics for good reason. Hidden "gems" are hidden for a reason 99% of the time.

If someone is naming a bunch of no-name bullshit in their top games, they're just trying peacock as some enlightened underground fag for internet cool points (for anyone gullible enough to fall for it), and they're insecure about their true taste.

>>721477187
Games took a turn for the worse when developers started assuming 99% have Internet. A lot of bad came from that.
>Day 1 patches
>Part of the game sold as DLC
>No cheat codes
>Episodic releases
>Early access (aka Paid Alpha)
>Stealth edits/censorship

>>721483250
After taking a closer look at your list I realize my first reply was too positive. Mediocre shit like Bloodlines and Revenge of Shinobi is absolutely not better than Hard Corps. You're a shit taste subhuman double nigger. This will be my last reply.

>>721483693
>the classics are classics for good reason
Because they're easily digestible

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>>721477187
I just played Majora’s Mask for the first time like three years ago. It quickly became one of my favorites. Good gameplay and atmosphere are timeless.

>>721477187
>You only like older games because nostalgia!
>look at popular new titles
>games simulating retro games

>>721477187
Games felt like games
Modern games feel like shit

It's that simple. Modern games feel better cause they were made to be games. Silent Hill (psx) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Silent Hill f, it's not even close

>>721483970
>Games felt like games
>silent hill
lol that was a clunky movie game

>>721484059
The original? Are you like..retarded o algo?

>>721483839
I've beat Hard Corps US with no deaths. I prefer it over both of those games, but not by a large margin. I didn't bother to name it because you already did. It's a good game but extreme muscle memo with very low execution skill.

>You're a shit taste subhuman double nigger.
>You got exactly the type of shit I play on your list
Make it make sense. Change your diaper you big fucking baby then type a coherent response.

>>721483848
Easily digestible by virtue of actually being good and enjoyable to play. Not necessarily easy, casual, or accessible. I generally prefer hard games with stakes.

>>721484119
Yes you retard, SNES games are real games after that was proto movie era with worse controls and framerate and less gamey features like high score boards

>>721483848
Name 10 """hidden gem""" games you beat that were difficult, I'll wait.

>>721482371
Those are pretty good. Hardcorps and Ninja Warrior is also petty good. Recommending Shattered Hand for the N...........
>elevetor action

HOL UP THAT GAME IS GARBAGE

>>721484258
Elevator Action Returns, it's miles better than the original.

>>721484258
>uhh, elevators

>>721484240
no games are really hard unless your into gay shit like ddr

>>721478364
Kingdom Hearts, Sly 2, Okami, SotC were this for me.

>>721484379
Those are all modern games. Try actual old game from 80s.

>>721484374
>no [thing] is really [thing]
is this the bedrock of discourse?

>>721484586
what you go gib me hard hidden gems like being hard means shit to a fly

>>721484573
>Super Maro Bros
>Super Mario Bros Lost Levels
>Super Mario Bros 3
>Ghosts N Goblins
>Ghouls N Ghosts
>Gradius
>Space Harrier
>Gun.Smoke
>Zelda
>Zelda 2
>Tiger-Heli
>Tetris
>Punch-Out
>Castlevania
>Castlevania 3
>Ninja Gaiden
>Splatterhouse
>Contra
>Super C
>Space Harrier
>Darius II
>Revenge of Shinobi
>R-Type II
Bangers

>>721485067
You just copy pasted those from Wikipedia

>>721478364
Deus Ex is still a fucking masterpiece.

>>721485115
Nope, I've played all of those, and beat all of them except for 1

>>721485171
Proof?

>>721479872
Holy based, especially Shadowrun.

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>>721483129
>diofield

From time to time I pick up some old legendary game I never tried.

9/10 times they are better than anything coming out the last 10 years. Fuck off OP

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>>721479872
>The Ninja Warriors Again
Tip, there's a modern remake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv3_R2rrwTU

>>721485480
Funny how you can't name a single one.

>>721484258
EA Returns is a fun ass game, fuckwit.

>>721477187
The reason is they were made for reasons other than exclusively milking as much money as possible.

>>721477187
>The answer is nostalgia
I don't think so. it was just the peak of game development talent making game with passion that will never be recreated.

it's similar to how people who got to watch 80's anime on release and compare it to what they make today...

>>721477187
so true zoomer bro

I feel nostalgia when playing fortnite fr

>>721483839
>literally the best classicvania ever
>mediocre
that's an indictment of castlevania and nothing else

>>721477798
80's and 90's media is better but playing outside had been nerfed massively by then, by the very boomers that decry childhood is ruined mind you.
>why don't the kids go outside and do all the things I made illegal?
>why don't the kids go outside when I've made everything unsafe?

There are some great old games, but majority of the time they suck regardless of their reviews and reception.

Some retro stinkers I've beat in the last year alone:
>Luigi's Mansion
>Advance Wars
>Star Fox Assault
>Shatter Hand
>Ninja Five O (not terrible just overrated)
>Beyond Good & Evil
>Max Payne 2
>Super Mario RPG (not terrible just overrated)
>Super Mario Bros 3 (not terrible just overrated)
>Spyro 2
>Ape Escape
>Diablo
>HoMM3 (so bad I couldn't even finish it)
>Zelda II (not terrible just a massive downgrade from Zelda 1)
>Thunder Force IV
>Dynamite Headdy
>Mother
>Mega Man X (not terrible just overrated)
>Shadow Dancer
>Rondo of Blood (not terrible just overrated)
>FF7 (not terrible just overrated)
>Sonic 3
>Oddworld
>Mario 64
>Sonic 2
>The Guardian Legend

Even games that aren't that old are better than current day shit.
Compared Dying Light 1 to 2 for example.

>>721477187
>the weather was better yesterday than it is today
>...
>last week's basketball game was a lot more exciting than this week's
>...
>that Psycho remake with Vince Vaugn and Ann Heche is so much worse than the original
>...
>video games were at lot better 20 years ago than they are now
>"shut up fucking nostalgiablinded boomer"

Things are capable of getting objectively better or worse you know

I've been having lots of fun lately going through some old Sega stuff I've never played before (Mega Drive and Saturn) and realised I just don't care about new games anymore. I haven't even been interested in a new game in years at this point, guess I'm not the target audience anymore. But that's fine since I can just play some retro stuff and have fun instead. I only really come to /v/ out of habit at this point, and also because /vr/ is so slow.

There are some games that are made today that are great fun but aren't getting enough attention for gaymers. I'm thinking about Speed Freeks.

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>>721485905
>Mother
Fucking filtered

>>721485905
>Luigi's Mansion
>Sonic 3 (& Knuckles I hope)
>Sonic 2
>Mario 64
>Rondo of Blood
>MEGA MAN FUCKING X
>stinkers
You just got some shit taste buddy

>>721486063
JRPGs are a bottom of the barrel genre, and Mother 1 is the worst of the worst.

>>721486104
Rondo and Mega Man X are still good games, just extremely overrated. The rest of them are genuine garbage. Sonic 2 and 3 is sad because I enjoyed Sonic 1, but they are just 'hold right to awesome' rube goldberg slop.

>>721478364
classic Splinter Cells
Hitman Blood Money
F.E.A.R.
Beat Down streets of vengeance

>>721483707
This right here
Shit was over the moment they realized consoles can be used to make transactions

>>721485726
>>literally the best classicvania ever
3 shits all over it, it's not even close. Bloodlines is just a coked-up mess. Also Rondo may be objectively worse but even then I have more respect for that game than I do for Bloodlines.

>>721477187
Old games feel better because I don't have to fuck around with online patches or dlc or subscription services.
Fuck off, I just want to play the videogame.

>>721486210
>JRPGs are a bottom of the barrel genre
>>>/g/b2/reddit/

>>721486312
Nobody gives a fuck about your respect faggot. Bloodlines is miles better than Rondo and CV3 in level design, boss design, game feel, replayability, and graphics

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Meh. Over the past few years, I've replayed old games I grew up with as a kid and I've played brand new games. I've both liked and disliked games from both categories.

>>721486210
Sonic 2 is designed a lot worse than 3&K in a lot of places but 3&K's level design is just top notch in every regard.
I think I understand what you mean because in Sonic 1 you could NOT just complete any stage by taking the "worst" (lowest) path and just holding right. 2 & 3 kinda loosened that a bit by making the fuckup path relatively easy on most stages, but the core 2D Sonic appeal of performing better to get to higher, more skillful paths and especially finding hidden rings is at its best in 3K, nothing in Sonic 1 could even come close

>>721477334
This but Dark Souls

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>>721486460
>boss design
Haha, good one.

>>721486542
The level design is just ass. Going fast is inherently fun because everything is a blur and it's pure memorization because you can't see anything before it hits you. Sonic 2 and 3 have numerous instances where they set you up to go fast then set stupid trollshit gotcha crap in your path. Majority of the game is just going through these superficial spectacle paths where you watch the game play itself, but you better hurry back to the controller when it's your turn to play because they just shoved some bullshit in front of you that you need to instantly react to.

It's just not fun at all and they completely missed the point. Also 1 has much better artwork and soundtrack.

>>721486460
>Bloodlines is miles better than Rondo and CV3
Anon I could maybe hear an argument of Bloodlines vs Rondo because they're such radically different kinds of games that you just happen to prefer one to
But come the fuck on man be real
CV3 is one of the tightest games ever put together and it was on the fuckin NES

>>721482658
remakeslop
nostalgiaslop (forced soul)
forced soul
indieslop
came out 10 years ago
troonslop
came out almost 20 years ago
came out 15 years ago
idk
came out almost 15 years ago
came out almost 20 years ago (again)
came out 20 years ago
came out almost 20 years ago (third time)

>>721478364
God of War 1 on the PS2

>>721477187
I played parasite eve and vagrant story last year and they were better than any rpg Ive played in the past decade.

sadly I think I peaked early because ive tried chasing the high with bof IV, xenogears and valk profile and none of them are hitting the same.

>>721485905
>Sonic 3

Wut

>>721486719
That's not the final boss, just one boss in the final bossrush. I don't think any of the final bosses are particularly great, but I've never really enjoyed the Dracula fights.

>>721486745
CV3 is a janky piece of shit, somehow they regressed from CV1 even. It feels like shit to play honestly, although it can be fun in its own obtuse jankshit kind of way. It's refreshing to play a game that outright hates you.

Bloodlines controls like butter, elegant and effortless but with the challenge to match.

>>721482658
20 year old games

someone ping that retard outside, he'll be shocked at the current year of our lord

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>>721486734
>Sonic 2 and 3 have numerous instances where they set you up to go fast then set stupid trollshit gotcha crap in your path.
If you recognize that it keeps happening, why aren't you doing what's necessary to avoid it? (Especially in the game where they gave sonic instant-air i-frames?)
Like you're complaining that the game has too many "automated" segments but then you describe how the game punished you for treating them like "automated" segments...
Maybe you're just ass?

>>721477187
Yeah I think the PS1 is nostalgia, games were more primitive then. it's only really PC games of that era that still hold up on their own. But 6th gen it is not the case. The PS2 saw much bigger and more ambitious games.

>>721485905
>Luigi's Mansion
>Advance Wars
Early 2000s Nintendo is fucking garbage and it only gets talked up by people who were in elementary school at the time or were too poor for an actual PS2 or even an Xbox. The Gamecube is one of the shittiest consoles ever made and while the GBA is good it's not because of Nintendo's games.

I will not ever entertain the idea that ps2 era action-platformers were good

>>721487135
You need a high baseline speed to do these sections, because they are pipes and corkscrews, which is why it has the spindash, so you can never get locked out. Or it's just outright waiting for environmental pieces to move you on like tubes, or springs that slowly wind up. The inclusion of the spindash is the crux of these issues, as you no longer naturally need to gain speed and control yourself organically, you just spindash to proceed with the rube goldberg machine. The alternate paths also makes the levels very forgettable and feel almost randomly generated. And again, the trollshit level design is pervasive EVERYWHERE, you are constantly getting jolted through then having to slow down to a crawl because they want you to go fast but also want to troll the shit out of you by forcing you to memorize exactly where you must slow to a crawl to avoid some trollshit trap.

It's just not fun, I don't need to explain it. If the game is boring as fuck to play, I'm not going to bother. I beat Sonic 1 with no continues, I had zero desire to even finish Sonic 2 and 3 and each minute spent with them was excruciating boredom.

>>721486063
sex with 'tora

>>721487183
most 3d psx games are indeed janky, but there are some that can be played today just fine.
From the top of my head: nightmare creatures, gran turismo 2, crash bandicoot 3, bloody roar 2, tenchu...

>>721487559
>Crash Bandicoot 3
>the worst game in the series
for shame. Crash Bandicoot 1 and 2 are masterpieces

>>721487183
The PS1 era had a lot of little games with experimental styles and aesthetics and that hit really hard with a lot of people even to this day.
Games like Parappa, MM Legends, wipeout, Capcom fighters like MvC and Darkstalkers (not as good as the Arcade/Saturn versions but better than nothing), games with weirdly trippy soundtracks like Sheep Raided and Blade

Might not have pushed the gameplay as much as MGS or RE but the look and feel sticks with people

>>721478364
He posted Deus Ex, you dummy. I also played it for the first time a few years ago and it's one of my favorites now.

>>721477995
Beyond Citadel

>loved Syphon Filter as a kid
>try replaying it on an emulator
>controls are total dogshit
>quit and delete the ISO

>>721487517
Sounds like you need to literally get gud

test

>>721477187
>the answer is nostalgia
>can't even buy a game without agreeing to a 2,000 page EULA which tells you the game will last 10 years at most and every bit of it is encased in microtransactions and FOMO
sure nigger, meanwhile my copy of MGS still works today without a single extra cent past the disc spent. Find the game that lets me do that nowadays.

>>721487876
Get new material retard. I outnumber your clears 50:1

>>721478509
>>721481532
>Every known record is being broken.
Wow! Do those records make your shit games any better or does it mean you share an IQ with 60 IQ subhumans in Africa?

>JRPGs are a bottom of the barrel genre
You don't have to eat shit if you don't like eating it. You sound miserable.

>>721477520
Yeah because it has elements that only existed during the time period you feel nostalgia about. Genius. Like I'm only furry because we had so fucking many games and VHS with furry characters.

>>721488029
>>721477187
all of /v/ is miserable, all of this thread is miserable. Anyone who isn't a miserable retard with a head full of shit wouldn't start a thread with
>The answer is nostalgia. It's always fucking nostalgia you stupid manchild.
as if nothing good was made before 2012 or whenever he was born

>>721477187
Old games feel better because they're literally the same as new games. Everything these days is being remade, so "retro" games are merely the most authentic form of modern games. If you don't like that, try living without remakes and see how you like it.

>>721482081
>why are you avoiding my loaded question?
I don't wanna end up like Charlie Kirk.

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This was my favorite and most played game when I was 4 years old. I haven't really played it in 25 years

Does it still hold up?

>>721488043
>Yeah because it has elements that only existed during the time period you feel nostalgia about. Genius.
wow, so you're saying there are objective reasons to like old games because they contain things new games simply lack.

genius
holy shit you just admitted new games are garbage but are too stupid to realize it. Worse, you'll try to hastily cover up your blatant ESL moment by mewling something about "uhhh reading comprehension I didn't mean that even though I said it pajeet brown-skin lmaooo"

>>721488109
You're beyond help. Good luck.

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>>721477798
And they were right. It's all been downhill. That's why millennials are inherently superior than zoomers, but boomers were superior to us. At least they went outside and trusted their neighbors.

>>721478258
>And they're wrong. The 1990s through the mid-2000s is basically the peak of childhood history.
CONSOOOOOM! MORE CHINESE PLASTIC MOMMY!

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>>721477187
>The answer is nostalgia. It's always fucking nostalgia you stupid manchild
>OP poorly coping with his electronic children's toys not being focused on entertain him and being creative anymore

>>721488109
The objective truth gaming timeline:

90's-2012 lots of cool stuff with sovl. Industry was starting to crab near the end. 2013-now: industry declined in quality drastically. Exceptionally decent games stand out even more now which is why SilkSong a very average but fun game is doing so well. We are in the midst of a competency crisis and ideology wars.

>>721488250
I'm not the garbage subhuman saying "Everything before <MY TIME> is shit" like you are, mentally ill nigger.
You'll make this thread like six more times over the course of the next week to spread your personal shortcomings around, too.

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>>721487626
I agree with that. I don't think any compares to the original look of Spyro. Remaster/remake messed it up. Therefore it did a disservice to displaying the game's basic art direction. It's strange how a Spyro fan indie game somehow managed to replicate this exact idea. Yet the one's in charge of touching the official game screwed it up.

>>721488209
>oh wow I like things more that I experienced during my youth than the things I didn't
crazy

>>721487626
>The PS1 era had a lot of little games with experimental styles and aesthetics and that hit really hard with a lot of people even to this day.
I think that also explains why the 16-bit era up through the mid-2000s was so good. The consoles, arcades, PCs, etc. were powerful enough compared to old games where they could do more which led to enthusiasm, wanting to see what ideas could be done and push the technology forward. Put it wasn't so powerful that they could just do anything with little thought. Gaming creativity really died out after the PS2 era and everything now being made in the same engine (unless it's Capcom which somehow uses an even worse one with ugly visuals) just means everything has become the same. There's nothing to really advance anymore and teams are way too big and disconnected to allow the same level of creativity.

>>721477187
Then why did I play through all of the Mega Man Legends series last year and fucking adore it while most of modern dogshit just makes me doze off? I'd only ever played the original Legends as a kid, but I played the other two last year as well and loved the shit out of them.

>>721488206
No. And it wasn't great at the time either. It is easily bested by most the came before it and most that has come since. How it is so highly regarded should be relegated to a case study of mass hypnosis.

>>721488332
Leave, then.

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>>721478042
This. The whole period from the 60s until early 00s was amazing for kids or young people, that's a huge period, even a life's worth of advancements and quality media creation

>>721478364
Thirding or fourthing Deus Ex
Played it for the first time last year and it was amazing.

>>721488415
Even from the title screen alone you can tell this game is fucking magical and soulful in a way that no game ever was and no game ever will be again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2wzMZzdNJA

>>721477187
Kys braindead zoomie

>>721488471
I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying it's grotesquely overrated.

>>721483129
>wasteland 3
I've never heard anyone play this, did this sell even a thousand copies? Same with tyranny. I dunno how they get their money back since they're not crowdfunded unlike original pillars and wasteland 2, but I'm glad they can manage .

>>721477187
I played swat 4 a year ago and it was so fucking good. Baldur's gate 2 was also insanely good.

>>721486963
>Bloodlines controls like butter, elegant and effortless but with the challenge to match.
Come on now anon, this is just most video games.
I do agree Bloodlines has one of if not the best whip controls, but it has the exact same jumping controls as the NES games. The latter is clearly restrictive on purpose.
Not that the controls would make up for my issues with the game's gimmicky set pieces and boss designs, but anyway.

>>721488253
Zoomoids like yourself hate millennials because we grew up in an actual real world while you grew up in an iPad hellscape being groomed by pedos on Minecraft.

>>721488867
Are you trolling or do you not even realize that each character has their own jumping mechanics and physics

>>721483129
>voice of cards
unironically kill yourself

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>>721480903
I crossed out every game on your list that was either a direct sequel, a numbered series or a remake. Obviously some are missing or could be debated, but there is a steep increase in sequels, remakes and rehashes after 2000. Towards 2005 we go full into sequel spamming and even some full-on remakes. Nowadays, a majority of the AAA games that get released are remakes and remasters. It's groundbreaking for an iterative sequel to be made. This is what I think the main difference is. There is nothing new anymore. Even GOTY of this current era, Baldur's Gate 3, is a numbered iteration with old concepts.

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>Wanted to compare old games with their new counterparts
>The "new" counterpart came out 10+ years ago
Modern game dev was a mistake.

>>721488868
>millennials grew up with Minecraft and iPads
What the fuck are you smoking, Aidyn? Did someone get your pronouns wrong today?

>>721487517
>The inclusion of the spindash is the crux of these issues
Then don't use it, you don't have to outside of those things that can grab you in Mushroom Hill.

>>721478364
Shadow Man

>>721488913
>physics
They literally don't, though. They have different attacks available on the ground and in mid-air but they jump the exact same way - like in the NES games. I don't think John's whip swinging and Eric's pole vault move count as regular jumping.

>>721489326
>they jump like in the NES games
no the fuck they don't, stop spouting bullshit retard

>>721477187
>The answer is nostalgia.
The answer is mourning, because - creatively, in Western society - history has effectively ended.

We're stuck in old genres, old media, old ways of expression. There hasn't been anything truly new for decades now. Constant remakes, constant slop. Constant "homages". Creativity has been so commodified that people feel like history has effectively ended. People live in the past because new forms of expression aren't arising anymore, for whatever reason.

Loathe it or not, you could point to AI as being somewhat novel, but when you really look at it, it's little more than a means to hyper-effectively reorganise media. It can't create anything truly new.

>>721489068
You were warned plenty in gen 7 that graphicwhoring was a bad thing but you didn't listen.

>>721489936
Real niggas knew consoles were dead back then and all you needed was a PC + DS or DS emulator

>>721489563
Uh I just tested it for a couple minutes and yes they do. You can do either a standing or a moving jump with no mid-air control. They also drop straight down of off platforms.

>>721490078
Real niggas knew gaming was dead if graphicwhore became a thing, specially on consoles. As for consoles there was Wii giving the options and delivering a better approach to gaming but the consumer was too stupid + normie influx in droves

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OR is it?

>>721478364
Thief 1, 2, Deadly Shadows (stretching with this one)
Splinter Cell 1, Pandora Tomorrow, Chaos Theory


We haven't made real stealth games since early 2000s, except for HM. It's a fact we stopped making stealth games. But sound focused and shadow intensity based stealth was the peak of design. Levels built around manipulating light sources and sound in general. Why was that abandoned? it was a better concept. Now we have some very basic zero depth & shallow tacked on mechanics in open world games, but we've never had real hardcore stealth since the 90s and early 2000s. Commandos is a different idea, much like HM.

Screw it, Hitman Contracts, Hitman Bloodmoney. Yeah I liked older HM more too. Although it's harder to explain other than I just liked their levels.

>>721490124
And it feels great, the NES ones don't. I don't know how else to put it.

>>721477187
it's not always nostalgia, sometimes things were more handcrafted, artistic, aesthetically significant, leading to inspiration, elevation through beauty. Feel like a lot of games these days are function over form. That function being keep the player addicted and extract as much money from him as possible.

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>>721490389
pic related

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>discussion about actual vidya and reliving classic games and old memories
>tranny jannies set it to autosage

>>721490389
>>721490460
anyway I would suggest anons to play older games for unmatched aesthetics

https://youtu.be/hBNW9sQABdk

>>721488206
As a Zoomie who played it for the first time recently, I thought it was great. Sure, the open world is tiny by today's standards, but the dungeons were pretty fun, even the infamous Water Temple (although I did have the luxury of being able to assign the iron boots to a C button, so that helped).
Greatest game of all time™? Not really.
Still a fun experience? Definitively.

>>721490668
>Greatest game of all time™? Not really.
Then what is?

>>721490552
OP probably got on the Jannies' bad side for something unrelated and this is their punishment.

>>721490768
IDK.
I don't really rank my games anything more complex than "Kino", "Great", "Mid", "So bad it's good" and "Dogshit".

>>721490369
That's fair.