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>Level is a recreation of the last days of 3 dead civilizations
>A civilization that died out due to an incurable plague.
>A civilization that overcame the plague but died because of senseless wars.
>A civilization that advanced to such an extent that there was nothing left to do but apathy.
There's nothing more kino than that.
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It was so good they did it 4 times.
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>>721486606
I count five "reliving someone else's memories" dungeons
>Amaurot
>The Dead Ends
>The Lunar Subterrane
>Alexandria
>The Meso Terminal
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Yeah the final dungeon of the story being a video of random aliens was so kino
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should have kept the japanese name of "The Final Fantasies"

basically a pointed statement that all the final fantasy games are on worlds where the good guys won, but on countless others, they didn't.
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>>721487784
I really wonder what trials and dungeons they are going to include that are related to an expansion that is still a year away.
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>>721489014
I wish they'd go back to doing separate quest lines for the additional trials. It just feels weird having a big boss fight in the MSQ every time it advances. Almost makes them feel a bit less special. Also, Sorrow of Werlyt is one of the best storylines in the game.
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>>721488208
This is kino but I still love "The Dead Ends" as a name. It's very evocative, as is the final fantasies.
Especially the way it pairs with the name of the song, "Of Countless Stars"
That kind of shit is so based
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I look forward to players maturing a little and realizing Endwalker is the worst expansion by a significant margin.
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>>721491803
That's Dawntrail but Endwalker is right behind it
Surprise it's the 2 last expansions
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>>721491803
Delusional take
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>>721491803
I mean, its clearly the second worst expansion, but its not THE worst.
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>>721491803
Endwalker is the second best expansion and was a fantastic capstone to the 10 years of story.

I look forward to players maturing a little and realising that.
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>>721491803
ARR is not interesting, nor is it nearly as sexy. Heavensward is mid as fuck with the most bland CHURCH LE BAD plot of all time, and Stormblood has Lyse + a bunch of annoying niggers like Yotsuyu. Dawntrail is the worst though, don't give it some false equivalence with anything else, at best it's about as shit as the Endwalker patch quests.

Garlemald niggers get the rope. That said I would gladly go back to this setting/story having some bite, everyone getting along wore out its welcome once the story outright ended in EW.
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>>721496526
Yeah, EW was great up to 6.2 when the Zero story really started. And even that would have been an acceptable filler if DT wasn't a complete fuckup from start to finish.

Gameplay wise it sadly started the trend of "Do savage or nothing" which they bravely continued with DT.
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>>721486409
I really liked the music of this dungeon
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>>721500851
for me it's paglath'an
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>>721491803
It is.
>>721496526
>Endwalker is the second best expansion and was a fantastic capstone to the 10 years of story.
No it wasn't. The expac was originally supposed to deal more with Garlemald but they changed literally everything a gave Garlemald 1 shitty zone. I became genuinely upset when I found out about this because I really wanted a Garlemald expac and they fucking rug pulled us with the absolute garbage that was EW. Elpis was fine but everything else fucking sucked. Especially the last zone and Zero.
https://news.gamebase.com.tw/news/detail/99435494
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need a fanta to change my height, just a little bit taller
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>>721500943
For me, it's Qitana Ravel. I was so hopeful when they first announced Dawntrail, thinking it was going to be all mysterious ancient ruins and jungles like this.
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>>721487784
the meso terminal is a .5 at best. he's sending memories to attack you, it takes place in the present and at the location you're at instead of teleporting you somewhere
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bros...
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>>721486409
>Aetheirys if we didn't stopped black rose
>Aetheirys if we didn't stopped Ultima
>Aetheirys if the Amaurot mfs never faced any problem
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>>721502916
I got 3 lines only once.
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>>721502916
that brat really needs some grape correction
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>>721487784
and you know what

it was good every single time
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>>721503454
finally...when do we get married?
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>>721491803
endwalker had shit-all to fucking do while it was actually going on even by dead expansion standards. hated every single second of it and actually checked out maplestory for a while
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>>721503514
lunar subterrane is the weakest of the 6.x dungeons imho
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>>721503627
i'm in agreement i remember actively hating lunar subterrane when i'd get it, first time was a fair good run though
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>>721503573
She's already married to me. Her sister too. You can have the sunslut in the pink outfit.
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>>721486409
honestly really enjoyed my ffxiv playthrough as an active wow and osrs player. I think I'd play the game mode often is the endgame was a bit grindier with more active things to do, but I understand that not everyone likes that in their mmo.
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>>721503848
find some old relic weapons you like
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>>721503627
it's not bad, the last 2 bosses are fun and people always seem to die at least once to the antlion
would've been better without the blinding white vignette over most of the dungeon tho
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>>721486409
FF1, FF2, FE1, BoF3.
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>>721503848
holy fuck I had a fever moment there I'm sick. I meant
>I think I'd play the game more if the endgame was a bit grindier with more active things to do
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haven't played since 6.2, what's the general consensus on the game these days?
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>>721504114
kinda spinning the wheel until 8.0, occult crescent was a bit of a dud but the FF5 nostalgia wank is on point and most of the relics look good, still waiting on deep dungeon, 7.2 and 7.3 ended surprisingly decently and introduced an autistic shota for a villain
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>>721504114
not enough cunny
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>>721504114
7.0 had some really, really low points and unlikable characters.

normal mode encounter design is improving though
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>>721504114
the game is not bad the problem is that the content is just stale. Its the same release cycle every expac, same gearing system, with a new relic weapon thrown in. People are tired of that cycle. There's also just a lack of endgame stuff to do that pushes away people like >>721503848
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>>721502582
I can play back the first strings of Unwound at any moment inside of my mind I liked that tune so much, together with the flute once in a while sounding off its own "La hee".
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Ra la fucking kill me please ra laaa
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>>721504395
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DT cured my FFXIV addiction. I really wish I never bought it and stopped after EW. Maybe when ShB is part of the free trial I'll play the game again.
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seat of sacrifice really was the peak for me
some devs just dont know how to handle success
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almost had a party of actual fighting outfits
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>>721504580
because shadowbringers was kino.
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>>721504620
me in the back
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>>721488208
and the quote should have been "Mankind's first hope... and his FINAL FANTASY" It is more based than cringe.
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>>721504620
me using the miniscule debuff to peak under the lala's skirt
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>>721504062
Breath of Fire's setting just keeps getting worse for the people in it as the timeline goes. First you had the empire at its height that was creating its own gods, then a late ancient, early medieval age where the dragons were starting to die out, followed by an era where all the dragons but you are guarding the gate to hell. Then in BoF3, the setting is mostly recovered but is still living in the shadow of Myria controlling humanity and waging a war against dragons, and finally the dragon blood is so diluted that dragons might as well not exist, and humanity has to retreat underground because the world is uninhabitable.

Every time period the clan races' numbers dwindle further and further, implied to be due to interbreeding with one another and humans which dilutes their bloodlines and removes their unique traits. It was even a huge plot point in 2 that the Winged clan can no longer turn in to birds due to Ryu intermingling with Nina.
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>>721504620
if that femroe is doing /beesknees I ask that you kill them repeatedly with the orbs
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>>721504580
>seat of sacrifice
It was peak, the climax, and their magnum opus. Everything after was okay. Actually, I'm still pretty upset that Yoshi P decided to wrap up the Hydaelyn & Zodiark story early. Because he thought all the new players that came in ShB wouldn't enjoy it.
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>>721504973
looks like one of the eating emotes
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>>721504620
mirin' the roe in the back wearing the starter samurai gear
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What was the nekropolis and what happened to them?
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>>721504973
what's wrong with beesknees
moogle dance is worse
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>>721505014
and not giving us a cinematic of hydaelyn and Zodiark fucking fighting. Endwalker was kind of anti-climatic. Also endsinger being a wall boss was kinda boring.
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>>721505014
Everyone that's not Koji, Ishikawa, or Maehiro should stay the fuck away from story, dialogue, and lore. Work those three to a coma if you have to, but they should be the only ones allowed in the writer's room.
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>>721505104
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>>721505153
it could been just like my marvel movies
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turn off cleric stance bro
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>>721505175
i will not accept maehiro glazing, ARR and HW both suck on their own and FFXVI is a disjointed mess full of all the same writing foibles as ARR and HW
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>>721505104
my headcanon is that some aethereal phenomena happened and probably blinked everyone out of existence instantaneously without warning
like the aether equivilent of the higgs field just quantum tunneled into another vacuum or something
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>>721505104
They became the skin of Numidium.
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>>721505263
Everything you mentioned past 2.1 is fucking awesome, fuck you.
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>>721505350
>introduce moenbryda
>kill her barely a patch later for cheap drama
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>>721504957
I like the theory but its very much confirmed in-universe 3, 4 and 2/1 are on different universes
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>>721505104
they literally explained it, meteion accidentally thanos dusted them when she got hit with the hivemind sync
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>>721505383
>becomes a plot point in EW for Urianger
i hate everything around this forced plot device
now if she were there from the start, it'd have a bit more weight to it
and you'd be able to see how the two bounced off each other in more occasions
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>>721505510
it's mostly ishikawa doing a salty runback for maehiro killing her pet femroe ten years prior but i do think making her a fixture of urianger's subplots is a good way of salvaging her
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>>721486409
Yugiri
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>>721505592
is for Hien
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>>721505582
maybe my cynicism prevents me from seeing it in that perspective, but really those subplots just came off as "hey, member this?" to me
i think i would have preferred they memoryholed moenbryda
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>>721505785
that is cirina
appropriate as cirina is actual feces
yugiri meanwhile.... yugiri is YOURS
she even took you to meet her parents
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>>721505827
Cirina is for Sadu
Yugiri is for Hien
Yuki and Kurenai are for the WoL
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>>721506018
>sadu
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>Trancers STILL seething
holy shit move on already.
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>>721506065
Sir this is a Wendy's
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>>721506049
I don't make the rules anon that's just how it is
Yugiri is mid anyway, there are way cuter Au Ra
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>>721506154
but how many of them are kunoichi
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so how's phaenna? i haven't been there in a few days. i see the cosmoboard is cheap now
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>>721505491
NTA but Ive heard the opposite, they have a chronological order?
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>>721486409
>Give me the light Ra'La
Why can't Ra-La be real?
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>>721486409
i remember it was quite annoying to heal on sage because of people getting poisoned on the first boss and doomed on the last boss
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>>721506819
why is onahole angry
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>>721508476
no hyur men nearby
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>>721508476
because the last lalafell she tried to drain told her "I only date keepers" and now she's spiraling in the aetherochemical lab like it's her sadgirl playlist on loop
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>>721510557
>"I only date keepers"
based taste
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What did you do in fino fanto 14 today?
I ran the latest 24 man and an alliance roulette
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I bet the 11th arcadion fight will be the ascian and the final is some kind of new threat tied to the ascians that they're frigging around with
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>>721491803
Dawntrail is a better expansion than Endwalker in terms of playable content.

FFXIV's lowest point to me will always be 6.1-6.55, and Dawntrail sucking only blew up as bad as it did because people had been sitting there since 6.1 waiting for it, trudging through all the shit.
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Can you get a Fan Dance IV proc from Fan Dance III or just from Flourish?
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>>721503514
I'd say that is arguable depending on how you view it, Amaurot is honestly nothing special after the first run aside from the last boss and it coasts on its narrative placement and how it plays into Emet-Selch's characterization rather then the Dungeon/Bosses itself, Dead Ends is great all the way through very worthy of being a "Final Dungeon", The Lunar Subterrane was pretty crap and dull, yes yes i member FF4, Alexandria is neat but at that point suffers from "Strictly Formula" dulling the experience. I haven't done Meso cause i dropped the game before it hit.

As a "Spam to Level/Gear Jobs" experience i think i had a better experience with Paglth'an (Which is a EVERYONE IS HERE Dungeon, not a MEMBER Dungeon). The issue? Better means relaxing, Pag was really cozy for being a warzone.
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>>721510802
>Dawntrail is a better expansion than Endwalker in terms of playable content.
It's about the same
Occult Crescent bombed
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>>721510831
Both fan spenders have a chance to proc it
I noticed the proc is significantly lower at lower levels
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>>721510831
Only from Flourish.
>>721512292
That's Fan Dance III, IV can only be used after Flourish.
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>>721486606
It's so fucking funny that everything about SHB has been subsequently ruined by their over-reliance of reusing elements from the one expansion that difnt see drops in playerbase (despite the reason being due to covid and more related to the game).

Emet's "Remember Us" was already ringing hollow by 5.3, but everything after truly took a massive shit over it.
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>>721510802
In terms of quantity yeah, but quality is about the same.
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>>721510738
>more ascians
I'm so bored of memberberries. Wouldn't even be the first time they stuck ascians into a boring raid story to make people pay attention
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFGw1RI0Kts
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>>721512661
This nigga does NOT play the game
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>>721512937
Everyone has ascian fatigue, it's not my fault CS3 is creatively bankrupt they immediately go to key jingling after one bad expansion.
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>>721513103
Ok but you don't play the game
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>>721511804
EW had no exploratory system, it loses by default. The only good aspect to the content in EW was that it had 2 ultimates and they were both extremely polished, obviously ultimates are not for everyone and well yeah. Let us also not forget that ShB had ishgard restoration and DT has the moon(s), meanwhile EW had a literal black hole of wasted potential and zero content in the island sanctuary.

EW was horrible on the content front.
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>>721513126
I do, THOUGH.
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>>721513374
>and they were both extremely polished
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>>721505504
No, retard. That was one of the first planets she arrived on and they were already gone. The only indication anything happened was that the planet was drenched in despair dynamis that contributed to the creation of the Endsinger.
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>“I’m more of a businessman,” Yoshida said, “and I make games, and of course people tend to say we’re creators or creative, but I am an employee at Square Enix and I receive money to make games."

So much passion here, wow...
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>>721505491
I doubt that, at least as far as 1, 2, and 3 are. Three literally opens with a mural of the cast of 1 fighting the endboss of 1. Four implies the creation of Myria by Yuna by taking part of Deis, which is why they're considered sisters later.
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nice "game"
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>>721504114
worst state ever
that is what happens when you get complacent and think that the perfect storm you got by sheer luck (wow exodus + covid) is really just your incredible talent
those japs huff their own farts while the game is in pre stormblood state
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>>721504114
It's bad. Content is decent enough but comes out way too slowly and the shitty 7.0 MSQ pulled the veil away and made everyone look at the slew of half-functional systems like glamour and housing, the glacial pace of content, unfun job design, etc, so everyone is hyper critical of everything and pretty pissed. And Yoshida can't stop going to interview after interview putting his foot in his mouth. Population has noticeably dropped.
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>>721486409
The first one wasn't plague, they fucked up their own planet
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>>721516770
It was a plague created by industrial pollution.
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>>721513860
They were, both DSR and TOP were polished as fuck, compare that shit to FRU and how unfinished it felt. If you haven't done either, which I assume by your half assed reply, watch a no commentary/no ui clear of TOP.
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>>721517698
Not that anon, cleared TOP on patch. It was not fucking polished and still isn't. How do you not know about the buff cap problem if you claim to have done the fight?
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just how retarded you have to be to play MMOs?
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I'm done if Ascians are the enemies again,
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>>721518168
bad news bro
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>>721518009
It's a minor inconvenience in a single phase of the fight, it's hardly something I would ever knock points off a rating for. It's a bigger issue in DRS and a tiny bit of a problem in the forked tower. Irrelevant issue when discussing quality of a contents design, FRU had half assed mechanic designs that worked even without all 8 players alive, poorly designed visuals and markers, and the entire fight lacked the visual and audio polish of the previous two ultimates.

EW was a complete disaster content wise and only it's ultimates came out looking good.
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>>721518364
Any content in which buff overcapping is possible is not polished, simple as that. And yes FRU was also shit.
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>>721518524
ok whiny, anyway
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>>721510709
I decided to try to go back into being active on PF and start to prog DSR, which is a fight that i always wanted to do. But it took hours to fill a fucking fresh prog, once we went in it was an okay experience but not worth waiting hours to fill.

Time to accept that it's only possible to play things on release if you don't want to waste infinite hours waiting for things to fill.
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>>721518592
>DUDE IT'S POLISHED AS FUCK
>just ignore losing your two minutes in the tightest dps check in the game you whiny baby nitpicker it's not even a big deal
Polished content would not fuck your pull because of janky coding. If they wanted to do the dynamis mechanic then they needed to actually stop being incompetent faggots and increase the buff cap or make it work without a buff.
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>>721518774
I'm progging DSR now and I really don't care for it. Over half the fight is downtime and the clock loading screens are annoying.
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>>721518364
What is half assed is TOP, one of the phases is the same as an earlier one but gold (in the case of Bahamut it was cool) and the last phase new boss is atrociously bad. FRU also has voice acting which is a plus over the others.

Last but not least, it had bugs on release and the mechanics are so badly designed (in the context of FF XIV mechanics) that people just use AM for everything because no one is gonna bother to create prio rules for that.
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UWU was the ult of the back to back limit breaks, on TOP they tried to one up that but it turned out bad in my opinion. TOP is the least cool ult by far for me.
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>>721519126
The last phase of TOP is by far the most impressive of any ultimate, arguably any raid in the game.

Production values anon, most of FRU didn't even have quality control done to it's animations or effects.
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>>721491803
>hydalaen saves our ass from ultima (2.0)
>death of a close friend pushes us over the edge (3.0)
>we need the power of a literal dragon to defeat a dragon (3.3)
>rival makes a dumbass move by mantling a primal (4.0)
>tsukiyomi (4.3)
>defeat ascians with a rock and the power of friendship (5.0, 5.3)
>travel to the edge of the universe through prayer and defeat the cloud of darkness with hopes and good vibes (6.0)
Idk fuck all about DT but there seems to be a disconnect between 4.0 and 5.0.
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>>721520467
It's because of Azem and their crystal. In 4.0 we were still a normal, albeit very strong adventurer, who could count on other expert colleagues to take care of things, but ultimately needed some kind of support to deal with stuff and find solutions to serious problems. In 5.0 the game clearly hints at us being sundered Azem, and for some reason this justifies the fact we're now almost invincible, that our charm is so strong everyone loves us and is ready to sacrifice themselves for us, and Azem's crystal has basically made us invincible McGuffins, since we can summon super stronk adventurers even in virtual realities or at the very end of the universe.
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>>721518168
Latest patch already confirmed it is Ascian again
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>>721520467
it's because 5.0 confirmed the wol was an important member of the convocation, and the devs rode that wave like there was no tomorrow. azem was friends with everyone, azem was so cool and rebellious, azem always had the right ideas, azem was best friends with one of the major villains, azem could have helped hermes get over his depression had he travelled with them (ishikawa confirmed this), azem came up with a lot of funny and beautiful concepts yadda yadda yadda. many fans, especially in japan, were OBSESSED with this, so much the devs even made emet's jap va read the lines from the seat of sacrifice scene during one of the jap fanfest and everyone creamed their pants.
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>>721504114
Probably the lowest. Not much content to do nowadays except maybe relic weapon and crafting
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>>721520467
>defeat ascians with a rock and the power of friendship
i hate that, i hate that we got the magic powers of gacha... WoL summons random niggers from other universes hoping they can help him defeat enemies... that's isekai tier shounenslop where the MC has gacha "op" videogame powers...
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>>721521058
>for some reason this justifies the fact we're now almost invincible, that our charm is so strong everyone loves us and is ready to sacrifice themselves for us
Oh god, are we the non-furry version of Wuk Lamat?
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>>721521824
>Oh god, are we the non-furry version of Wuk Lamat?
I will kneel if Yoshit-Piss uses Anti-Wuk comments on forums and social media and have NPCs say those lines but towards the WoL.
Dogeza even...
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>>721521871
>oh gods, here comes the warrior of light again
>everyone smile, maybe he won't stick around for lon-
>SEVEN HELLS
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>>721514053
Why is he like this? Why can't he just understand that he's supposed to say that shit to shareholders or at internal board meetings but to a customer to someone who plays games that saying shit like that sounds so fucking boring and unimpressive.
I don't feel enthused at all.
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>>721486409
And the games still full of cheaters? Unfortunate
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>>721521058
I'm fine with azem basically being retard us during retard times, but trying to turn Azem into the most perfect person because they have to characterize him since hes not a player character, but can't make him have flaws since he's technically the player character meant the whole idea turned stupid.
Azem failed he wasn't playing 9th dimensional chess to give his own reincarnation superpowers after the 7th apocalypse.
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>>721522205
he's trying to remove the "cool guy fr fr" stigma he got from some players/fans so he can excuse himself for picking the big-corpo choices for the game. it's like he's trying to pull a "you think you want classic but you don't" or a "don't you guys have phones" moments but if he does that now as people consider him a "gamer" then the consequences will be more severe. If he manages to distance himself from the gamers then he'll be able to do and say more corpo stuff without having people say:
>WAAH YOSHIDA YOU WERE OUR ALLY! YOU USED TO CRY ON LIVESTREAM ABOUT THE GAME! WAAH
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>>721486409
A tale of Loss, and Fire, and Faith. Absolute Cinema.
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>>721491803
Nah, Stormblood still the worst.
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>>721505785
>>721506018
>Yugiri/Hien even though she says she'd prefer to stay with the Warrior of Light in Eorzea if not for her duty
>Cirina/Sadu because... uh... JUST BECAUSE, OKAY!? Nevermind half of SB ships her with Hien
Where in the world does such retardation spring from?
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>>721521058
>>721521310
Wouldn't it be funny if we weren't Azem? I hate all this wanking going on with the mc.
>>721521457
You hit the nail right on the head. 14 went from a standard ff game to looking like a korean mmo. They even got the shitty modern day clothing.
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>>721521457
>magic powers of gacha
oh god that's it, you actually "roll" to find decent players to clear up content... we've become gachaniggers but in-game instead of irl playing a gachaslop...
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>>721488208
Except they already pulled this trick with Amaurot.
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My hate for Endwalker stems not from being a Garleaboo but from how rushed and squandered the expansion is in general. Finding Ancient ruins and then immediately going to the past was horrible. Let that shit marinate, I wanna see more ruins and try to interpret what its original purpose was. The Final Days felt like the final hour with how rushed it was. We should've been trotting around the globe to fight on different fronts. There was no buildup, unlike Ilberd's falseflag attack or the Warriors of Darkness.
Endwalker just makes me frustrated.
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How's the music in DT?
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>>721504620
SE ruined this game by introducing modern slop at every opportunity
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>>721518774
>PF DSR prog
Sounds like a nightmare
The only reason I was able to do it is because some previous clears wanted to help some of us clear in a premade static, I don't think I could stomach that fight by doing it in PF years later
It was the same deal with doing all the Criterion Savages recently, had someone drive 3 of use to hop in and it was pretty fun
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>>721491803
Extremely fucking based and real trvth nvke

>Garlemald collapses offscreen and is relegated to one zone
>Final Days (selling point of the expansion) relegated to one half of one zone
>Sharlayan and Thavnair squandered forever
>Pacing is pure dogshit
>But don't worry you can have a full zone fucking around with space rabbits and another half-zone doing menial bullshit to prep a rocket
>Bootstrap paradox bullshit that could've easily been avoided by not including the fanservice wankfest that is Elpis
>Goes out of its way to obliterate all legacy plot threads (nice job slaughtering the Twelve btw!) because Yoshit Piss wants his whole new original story arc
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>>721504620
>sharlayan gear
>whatever the shoulder thingy is
>cool tank but also wearing a blindfold because nome of the hats work on viera
>viera wearing thavnair armor
>a faggot lala
>modern fag glamour
>a samurai
>a whore
3/8 almost doesn't cut it you worthless lalashit
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>>721526936
>au ra tranny with PS2 armor trying to grandstand about random player's glamour
Pffft, lol!
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>>721528456
I'll take psx era armor over whatever hi-rez modern clothing (you) are wearing. Dress for the job you want.
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>We saw the heavens
>But never the seven hells
Are they just made up?
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>>721529258
It's all made up. We never made it to the Source after 5.3. We're currently viewing a failed timeline in the void between worlds.
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>>721529258
We've been exploring them in dawntrail
We died on the boat over
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wouldn't be kino if in the next expansion we get a cutscene in which it shows that WoL wakes up from a coma after the fight with Zenos and the whole Void-invasion and Dawntrail never happened?
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>>721529258
Pande
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>>721529853
I like my idea better. Endwalker just changes too much of the og game
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>>721486409
>Amaurot:
KIIINNNOOOOOO
>The Dead Ends
KIIINNNOOOOOO
>The Lunar Subteranne
Okay this idea is starting to wear thin...
>Alexandria
Oh come the fuck on
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>>721530730
Word. They love recycling shit too much in this game. Not just story shit (yeah I get it, muh themes fuck you /lit/ fags pacing and new ideas take priority), but gameplay and even music shit to an extent. Too many "software developers" on the team, not enough creatives
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>>721491803
It was well understood back when Endwalker was still fresh but any and all complaints leveled against the game at the time got you labeled as a "trancer".
It's actually impressive that yoship managed to drop the ball so hard he broke the conditioning of every cocksucker that stuck around after 6.0
Both stormblood and endwalker were abysmal dogshit expansions that got one thing and one thing only right.
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>>721531476
SB is great.
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>>721531476
SB is good.
I got called a trancer once. It was funny
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>>721531585
For about combined 50 minutes total that Zenos is on screen and empathizes with you how shit everything in this expansion is and you are both there just to kill shit for fun , yeah, it's great.
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>>721517698
TOP was the most rushed piece of shit ever. Had like 5 bugs that needed to be patched, offered nothing new like DSR, it's a bad ult amd nobody liked it. He'll, only reason people liked DSR os because it's a cinematic fight that stream viewers can follow and MUH HORSEFART
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>>721531723
Nah, even for the MSQ alone it has good moments besides that. As a whole expansion it's one of the best, if not the best.
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>>721531964
Pure insanity but I guess dawntrail buckbroke the remaining playerbase so hard that they would actually look at the burning trashpile that was stormblood fondly.
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>>721531964
I enjoyed getting my shit kicked in by Zenos as a Monk. Then Ala Mhigo happened and I got to tank him. You can't get something like that from DT or EW.
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>>721532187
If anything buckbroke the fanbase it was EW
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>>721532187
I've been saying SB is good since before 90% of current xiv population started.
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>>721532698
Oh I don't deny that. From the get go I agreed with the original premise that EW was the worst thing to have happened to FFXIV. Doesn't change the fact that SB was horrible or that Dawntrail is physical proof that yoshida's trying to kill Square Enix which is a noble goal and I hope he succeeds.

>>721532874
Good for you, you've been wrong the longest.
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>>721491803
Endwalker wasn't about the WoL (which triggers self-absorbed trannies). It's about the most based man in video games reaching the end of his journey in the most kino way possible.
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>>721491803
Island Sanctuary is probably the shittest non-content addition I've ever seen to any online video game. The most damning indictment of CBU3 is that this made it all the way through planning as a serious investment of development resources.
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>>721533114
But they fucking skipped a bunch of his journey and nothing about that end felt earned.
They should have stuck with the original plan and taken a whole expansion to deal with Zenos and the empire.
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>>721521058
Something that always comes back to me is that Stormblood's optional content has a significant focus on the fact (You) are not the only hero.
>Tenzen is an ancient WoL who used the Echo to befriend wild animals an spirits, sacrificing himself to save them all
>Ramza is an ancient WoL who led an army to fight an otherworldly being
>Omega makes comment on how he's unable to understand how heroes throughout time and space manage to defeat those statistically beyond them
You are a hero, yes, and a strong one, but you are not the single end-all hero. You are not THE super special chosen one.
And then Shadowbringers happens and actually you ARE the super special chosen one and everyone has to rely on (You) because not only are you the most super duper blessed hero ever but you're also the reincarnation of the ancient super duper hero who was best friends with both God and the villains who are actually just sad wizards with dementia.
Then Endwalker even goes a step further to wipe away any ambiguity about 14's remaining mysteries
>The Twelve are actually just Ancients, you meet them all and then they all kill themselves, except for one of them who felt sad about his monkey
>There is no actual afterlife. Every soul is doomed to an infinite cycle of reincarnation and forgetting their past lives. You specifically go to the 'afterlife' and the only thing you find of past friends are fragmentary remnants.
>God is literally dead
Shadowbringers was a fucking mistake.
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i can't believe shadowbringers is still the best expansion content wise when it was hit by COVID
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>>721534065
>shadowbringers is still the best expansion content wise
The Nier raids are fucking garbage and Eden was absolute dogshit.
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>>721530730
>>The Lunar Subteranne
what was this again
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>>721534152
the nier raids at least had good glams, the only alliance raid that I repeat just for glams is the first one for endwalker
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>>721534245
Golbez and Duolingo's whacky adventures in medieval town
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>>721534245
>FOR KING AND COUNTRY FOR KING AND COUNTRY FACE MY WRATH FOR KING AND COUNTRY
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>>721534065
No one says this.
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>>721533996
That's what I miss most about Stormblood.
>>721534443
>nier
>good glams
I bet you wear the 2b bottoms you stupid viera. The only good alliance raid glams are the Ivalice ones
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>>721535030
puppet's bunker of maiming is nice imo. galatea magna really increased the scope of plausible in universe reaper glamours
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>>721526195
music's great in dawntrail, arcadion especially has unique tracks for every single boss
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>>721533114
I was always a love from Kazakhstan kind of person but finding out Zenos was written by a woman. Well, That really didn't leave me much of an option.
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>>721526195
the memberberry songs are all top notch minus necron's theme which is a little tepid

the original songs are all great. even that one leitmotif version of Smile that plays in the epilogue of 7.3
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>>721486409
Endwalker was so fucking kino that Dawntrail was doomed before it became a concept.
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>>721535030
any female character that wears the lore accurate dragoon glamour (any dragoon artifact with 2B bottoms) gets my vote of confidence
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>>721533062
Nah SB was the last great expansion.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca1iBhq-C90

monster hunter end of the collab is being shown off, bale armor with shadowbringer (the sword) and the GS has edge/flood of shadow attached to it and a counterattack slash is changed to shadowbringer (the skill)

also a pictomancer brush with functioning motif system, morbol minion poogie costume, and a cactaur pose
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>>721536812
And what do we get?
Another circular arena with garbage weapons and armor.
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>>721536812
Shadowbringers best expansion confirmed
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>>721537182
count your fucking blessings that we're not getting a second round of "monster hunter inspired" armor
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>>721537213
i do wish they'd have picked a better dark knight set but i can't ever be mad at the shadowbringer sword

could have been worse too, if they're fixated on shadowbringers then they could have picked the uglyass pteroslaver set for a second dragoon update
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https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/57c7f500bee862987da64f1e3f979fc15995f949

what will you be getting?
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>>721537739
oh shit y'shtola amiibo
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>>721537739
the GC pins are cute I gue-
>no Ishgard
NO BUY
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>>721537739
can i take the alisaie plushie's shorts off? this is important
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>>721538317
only if alphinaud gets his own shorts off for all the fujoshi
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>yfw kate, yoship, and sean (senna) all get fired
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>>721538317
You can undress the corn so maybe
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I wanted to talk about something xiv related the other day and I forgot what it was.
Oh well.
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>>721538705
>yoship
good luck with that
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>>721538825
let's talk about Fordola's fiery pubes
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>>721511804
Yes but the bar is that low.

OC is competing with Island Sanctuary, Criterion and Eureka Orthos
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>>721538825
rough unprotected sex with alisaie (alphinaud is being forced to watch)
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>>721487784
It's a solo duty (+8 man extreme version of the solo boss) but the stuff in cids memory too
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>>721507149
one theory is it's 4, then 1-3
i personally believe in being "true" chronological, with 4 being in a separate universe from the first 3, due to two separate characters from 3 showing up (one a party member turned npc, the other an npc turned party member)
Dragon Quarter and the dead gacha are completely unrelated, regardless of whatever you believe in
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>>721538828
>find lala sync cords or whatever they're called
>collect info
>send info to fox news
>make a stink about how modders are secretly sending cheese pizza through ffxiv
>make a statement about yoship actively hiding these users in his game
>get mods killed
>get yoship fired
If anyone wants to try that go ahead and be my guest.
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>>721510738
no, 11th will be the Brute Underbomber, trust me my uncle works at Square Enix
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>>721539802
>undead brute bomber
mite b cool
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>>721530730
I liked the concept/idea of Alexandria simultaneously being how it decayed and the SPEEEEEEN memory deletion; it's just like many many many other things in DT, it was executed poorly
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>>721526731
Been saying this since day 1 of endwalker. I have no idea how people pretend Endwalker is some amazing expansion. Shit content, shit story that ruined all of the lore and the constant bullshit of remaking the end of days dungeon was getting annoying by this point.

Devs need to redirect course and go back to original problems that didnt involve asscians or something. Like HW, SB and ARR
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>>721526731
>Garlemald collapses offscreen and is relegated to one zone
it's what garlemald deserves
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>>721533114
I don’t think anything in any video game I ever play in some hypothetical future will ever top the zenos reveal at the end of endwalker and the final sequence that followed. It was perfect. It was just so fucking perfect man
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>>721539735
there is no problem with lalas
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>>721540814
There isn't. But that's not what normies think
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>>721540814
EXTREMELY aggressive pounding sex with lalafells
no time for rest only time for cock
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>>721537739
scam
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>>721541450
I FUCKING HATE BLIND BOXES
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>>721541051
why do you post things like this?
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>>721538997
https://x.com/_uwaaaaaaaaa/status/1969036285835719061
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>>721538825
I remembered now. The last side story posted on Lodestone talks about the remembrance service that Sphene set up at end of 7.3. Apparently it’s all happening off screen on Everkeep, so that’s not what 7.4 will focus on.
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>>721541867
different link please. i don't want to go on twitter
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>they expect people keeping a sub for grinding old content to receive a relic with some particle effects and a deep dungeon for the rest of the year
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>>721510738
No, 12 is going to be Metem(psychosis).
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>>721541867
hot
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>>721540814
for me it's A-MAKI
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>>721542741
But anon, if they unsub they might lose their house.
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>>721512661
What do you want the big final plot twist to be then?

Arcadion doesn't have enough of a story to have a twist without throwing in something from the rest of the game, and unless it's a spare Ascian whoever it is well be stuck in sidequest jail and won't be in the MSQ ever again.

Unless you just what another 4 fights against newly introduced characters?
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>>721543903
A lot of EU houses did get blown up when auto demolition kicked in last week, so even that trick is not working as well as it used to.
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>FF14 players who love the game but find some faults try to share their criticisms in the hope that the game devs see the problems players are flagging in order to fix them be it bugs, or content.
>Other FF14 players in response tell the first group to "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP WHY DON'T YOU JUST QUIT HUH? HUH! SHUT UP AND STOP BEING NEGATIVE!"
>"JUST QUIT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT!"

>And so they did, they quit the game.
Why are FF14 players like this? Why are they so thin skinned they can't handle the idea that FF14 is not a perfect game, that there are valid criticisms.
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>>721544072
apart from lower population, RP scene in the EU isn't that strong.
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>>721543967
the twist with arcadion is 'its scripted and the wol isn't in on it'
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>>721543967
The twist is the whole thing was just a show and nobody ever actually died. Much like actual Wrestling.
Brute Bomber will show up again like this.
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>>721544521
The Brute Undertakerinator
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>>721544343
I see you bitch about this more than I actually see what you are claiming
And I am talking about on here and in game
I don't care about other places online
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>>721544343
Not beating the cult allegations.
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>>721519126
TOP is the most fine tuned ultimate, you need to be playing at peak efficiency and plan your mits. The fact that you can live through Pandora's box with mits and lb2 is a joke.
P5 in TOP is literally Omega trowing everything he used previously in the fight at you at the same time
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>>721544624
It’s just funny that all he’s doing is finding the JP equivalent of /v/ chuds complaining about it, and reposting it implying “These are Japanese posts so it’s heckin more valid!”
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>>721544343
Because toxic positivity became the norm for FFXIV. Then all Yoshi P had to do was cry on stream to pull the heartstrings for people to defend the game no matter what. Plus with all the modders its a sunk cost fallacy. They'll be playing the game even when it's on maintenance mode. But that's a good thing because at least it's a containment zone for the undesireables.
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i just hope the next expansion is cool and makes me want to care i just found the new world and alexandria boring and the soul thing like nobody seemed to care even though its obviously not a good thing
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>new world is plagued with a sleepwalking phenomenom
>every sleepwalker is moving in the same direction
>go around and watch the sleepwalkers to triangulate their destination
>fall asleep in an inn
>wake up in a different place
>find solution 9
>every sleepwalker is a synth being recalled to s9
>you are a sleepwalker
>couple of nerds present your comatose body to sphene and tout it as the ultimate being for souls
>other nerds disagree
>arcadion starts as a contest for the best body to house souls
>later find out your soul is a copy of azem
>nobody knows where the original is
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>>721543967
The twist is the lalafell is the president and final boss. I only say this because he reminds me of the jolly CEO from Pokemon Coloseum which had the exact same thing
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>>721542049
>lodestone stories
Who gives a shit? Not related to the game.
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>>721545272
85% chance the final boss is metem
10% its a fusion of one or more of the fighters (royal rumble?)
5% its neyuni (forma de la ascian)
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>>721541784
He's a porn addict and there are no dogs in sight.
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>>721545527
But enough about the avatarfag
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>>721545272
Metem being the president is so easy to guess
>"My ring!"
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>>721545795
Cocoli is an AGP lolicon, not a dogfucker.
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>>721533996
do the Nips even believe in a Christian-style afterlife? Was it ever even implied that FFXIV specifically had a Christian-style afterlife?
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>>721545351
How new are you?
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>>721544372
>>721544521
Ok that would be neat
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>>721538916
Orthos is kino, only people who didn't like it were speedtrannies
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>>721546048
Shinto has an afterlife, Buddhism has a cycle of reincarnation. Though now that you mention it, it's funny because EW is a criticism of Buddhist thought but cements the Buddhist cycle as a truth.
As for FFXIV, Eorzean religion has the seven heavens and seven hells, but we've known about the Lifestream since ARR. However, the lore of primal summoning in ARR also said that summoning fetches the soul of a being related to the primal from the Lifestream to act as the primal's heart, implying that a soul stays down there for some reason. Like summoning Garuda would fetch the soul of the Allagan commander of the Garuda unit, for example.
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>>721544624
Found one
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>>721544814
unfortunately he's a turbo weeb but it's funny sometimes when somebody actually reads the 2chblog thread being looked at, sees OP of the thread isn't the thread consensus, and he scuttles underneath the fridge like a roach
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>>721539802
THE UNDERBOMBER
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Oh hey, this thread thinks it's safe? Let me throw in some keywords.
XIV
Final Fantasy 14
Yoshida
Dawntrail
Kate Cwynar
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>>721546809
you sure love talking to them
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>>721544814
The game is a Japanese game, it's main player base is Japanese. I know this goes over your head because you're in the double digit IQ range but if the main player base for a game starts to actively dislike the game then there is a problem.
You are one of those types who want to yell "THEN JUST QUIT". You are the problem.
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>>721547259
>guys watch me summon myself hehehe
meds
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>>721547387
According to the census actually there are nearly 100k more NA players than JP players, making NA the main audience for XIV. Of course, they shouldn't stop listening to JP players because of this, but they probably shouldn't be so out of touch with NA players either.
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>>721548047
The NA player base ballooned during Covid, it goes from peaks to valleys. But the JP player base has remained very consistent for years and extremely loyal no matter what Yoshida has said or done, so it's a testament to how far the game has fallen in reputation or simply not fun currently when the most loyal player base for the game are loudly criticising the game and it's culture of "YOU QUESTIONED THE GREAT LORD YOSHIDA? JUST QUIT!" attitudes.
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This thread sucks.
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>>721548693
You posting the same pic every time certainly improves it
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>>721548693
Sucks you good?
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>>721548830
You catch on quick my friend
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>>721510709
I took a year long break and came back to see what I missed and was very unimpressed, FF9 is my least favorite FF game besides Dirge of Cerberus and 4 Heroes of light and seeing people make so many referrences to it that I understood felt very weird, I even understood the thematic referrences but I just don't care that much. I don't hate it, it's just uninteresting.

I kinda hate Kona more than I remembered and Solution 9 and Tuliyolal are very boring and the 'twist' at the end wasn't really a twist, if Calyx knows about primals and reflections and even calls his reflection the 9th, then yeah, an ascian is involved.
>>721522205
people that say stuff like this tend to make games that are boring and unimpressive, as dawntrail is boring and unimpressive.

Think about the content cycle of the game and his statement makes complete sense.
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>>721510709
You sure did little buddy
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>>721544343
I love it
they were so smug when the cracks were showing back in shadowbingers but now the game is on a death spiral and ultimates are empty, pf is dead empty outside prime time and wow housing is looking promising they are now not so smug anymore
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>>721549781
Put a helmet on you dumb fag.
Poser ass tank fuck off with your "lightly armored" bullshit
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>>721550327
Helmets are for special ed not for main characters
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>>721549781
you look like a faggot
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Is yoship really trying to kill off ff14's world so he can make his own mmo?
>>721550436
You're gonna end up in special ed if you suffer another blow to the head
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>>721550327
Gunbladers don't wear helmets
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>>721550047
>people that say stuff like this tend to make games that are boring and unimpressive, as dawntrail is boring and unimpressive.
>Think about the content cycle of the game and his statement makes complete sense.
I just can't wrap my head around how he's supposed to be head of 'Creative Studio 3' and is the Producer/ Director of an MMO, but he just wants to play at being a businessman, he really wants to be some boring salary man now doesn't he? He should just go and get promoted to sit on the board and let someone else take over FF14 who has a creative vision for the game.
Someone who is so focused on metrics won't be the guy who pulls FF14 through this funk it's in, they just won't.
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>>721550594
Starting a new MMO in a completely cornered market does seem like the sort of stupid ass shit that Square-Enix would do.
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>>721551683
I think they condemned themselves when they decided to make dawntrail, they needed to sunset FF14 and get working on FF14-2 but they decided to bandaid together this ancient game that's held together with ducktape and roll on glue, so even though there's more content the mobile version has more features.

I've noticed all the new stuff is technically just old stuff slapped and changed slightly to seem new, they have to up the difficulty for the normal content because there's nothing they can do but make it harder, pvp is the only place where they push the boundaires of what jobs can do but even that is limited by how shit and bottle necked the engine/network is and how broken they are because there isn't even a way for them to detect cheaters afaik, you have to manually report them and the jannies have to meticulously scrape through logs to figure out what's happening.
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>>721552549
The next "MMO" is going to be a Genshin clone
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>>721553334
>I've noticed all the new stuff is technically just old stuff slapped and changed slightly to seem new
Hit the nail on the head, there isn't any new meaningful content in the game since I would argue, since Stormblood. Since then things have been nothing but tweaks of existing content and systems but nothing ground breaking as to be a new piece of content.
Even Criterion is just a tweak of Extreme but 4 man which makes it to Savage tier difficulty in terms of personal responsibility.
Honestly, since Stormblood, what is a new and brand new piece of content that resembles nothing else existing in the game?
I can't think of a single thing.
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>>721554090
I'm eternally mad they scrapped the BLU battle royale mode they were thinking of.
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>>721539735
What in the holy hell is this?
M1 Carbine?
Ruger?
What an unholy abomination
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>>721544343
>>"JUST QUIT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT!"
They're right thoughever, nothing will change unless profits go down doe.
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>>721497174
Is this real
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I haven't played since Shadowbringers launch, reading everything in the thread just gives me a headache. Glad I stopped playing and moved onto Motortown Multiplayer
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>>721554993
There's contention among scholars. More like 60,000 overall.
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>>721555471
Eh, the game up until 6.1 was mostly still worth doing. Its from 6.1 onward that things massively started going downhill.
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>>721539069
What a weird context to fight Varis. I understand they had a fight laying around but it felt kinda hamfisted
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>>721554479
That's not the reason they are telling people to quit
They're telling them to quit because in their eyes defying and besmirching their game with criticism is an act of treason so they must go.
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>>721539802
This would be extremely kino
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Why couldn't they make blunt/slash/pierce a stackable debuff?
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>>721555804
Who cares, if they push people away sales go down and the company has a fire lit up their asses
These people LITERALLY help you get what you want and neither of you even realize it
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I wish FFXIV pulled me in more than wow does. I feel deeply that the story and design is superior to wow, but it lacks replayability which is critical in MMOs.
Once you complete an expansion there's zero reason to return or redo it. If I want to make a second character I'm stuck on a linear hallway redoing everything in order.

They need to introduce a more loose, non chronological expansion that you can do whenever you want without completing the 5 other expansions, and allow alts to do do expansions at any point. FFXIV needs chromie time for alts.
And make a PvP based expansion where players can choose 2 factions and the player base can split organically from there.

I have no desire for an expansion that's just a story. I want a game to explore.
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>>721519126
FRU had bugs what are you talking about
The aoe indicators would clip under the ice during intermission so you couldn’t see shit
Same thing happened to the LB indicator
>t. Casterfag

Half the fights in the game have bugs
Hell Forked Tower had straight up translation errors in some languages that made it impossible to tell what an attack was
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>>721555750
>people wanted to fight varis but oh shit he's already dead. what do we do?
>just have them fight some dream memory version of him lmao
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>>721556059
>they just need to turn xiv into other game
no
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>>721556059
Adventurer mode
No msq stuff. Just go out into the world and grind out those levels.
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>>721488208
i cant believe they took this from us
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>>721556025
Except nothing has happened, sales are down and SE is still unchanged, and people are not back and won't come back after being openly attacked for their gal of criticizing the game.
This (((tactic))) doesn't work if it's done this way.
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>>721498967
>Gameplay wise it sadly started the trend of "Do savage or nothing"
newfag. been this way since even before savage was a thing. imagine playing this dogshit in the year of our lord, <currentyear>
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From what I've read in these threads the majority of players will come back if
>dt and ew are retconned
>deeper gameplay
>removal of kate, sena (sean), hiroi, and yoship
>removal of modern glams
>a glamour toggle
>removal of mods
Am I missing anything else?
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>>721533996
Mostly right except I thought Tenzen and Ramza are also supposed to be your past incarnations.
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>>721556763
pablo niggas really think this would happen
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>>721556216
You're a retard. I said they should add replayability, the game is fantastic but as soon as you're done the main story what the fuck else is there?
Wow is set up so I can replay wotlk as a priest, then a death knight then as a druid, and experience each from a roleplaying perspective.
In FFXIV I'm the hero of light, same exact story beats, in a single line.

As soon as they wrapped up endwalker subs went down. I'm just giving my 2 cents as someone who hasn't logged back in for 3 years.
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>>721556251
By running fates? cool
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>>721547387
Holy shit you really are retarded.
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>>721533996
>>>God is literally dead
there are zero real gods revealed so far in the 14verse
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>>721556251
Monster mode
Play any monster in the game and level up into a boss like thos mobile game ads
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>>721549781
peak

seifer coat and dawntrail dante coat are the best AFs so far
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>>721554090
I mean, that’s just intentionally downplaying anything someone would suggest.
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>>721557549
FFXI has that
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>>721555848
doesn't really solve the "issue" of being equivalent to a personal power buff like disembowel gives, and party comps heavily favoring having DPS spreads that can give and deal piercing (dragoon and bard pairing in olden times) since so many jobs deal slashing while only monk and mage autos use blunt
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>>721557985
addendum: outside of savage speedruns this shit never mattered anyways, healer balance being so weighted towards astrologian and scholar was always a bigger issue than resist down debuffs
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>>721557985
It always bugged me how there are weapons that should change your physical damage. Monk patas, paladin machualtl (idk how to spell it), that kind of shit.
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>>721558615
They did exactly that in 1.0. That's why those macahuitls and those weird blunt tipped shell lances exist in the first place.
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>>721502582
An entire expansion of areas like the Ronkan ruins and the rest of the dep jungle was all I wanted from Dawntrail. I was unbelievably hyped for the longest time - though it all deflated pretty quick when they announced Solution 9.

The only part of the entire expansion that came remotely close to fulfilling this vibe for me was Mamook, and it was a short segment with a largely retarded story and only half a map with the rest being drab and empty
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>>721554301
Disregard this post. Lala is a huge fan of big roegadyn cocks.
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I'm glad we're past the era of everyone splooging themselves over every derivative music drivel like SOKEN COOKED Y'ALL WE ARE FED. Shadowbringers was neat at the time because it was different from Answers, Dragonsong, and Revolution, but everything after sucked massive dick.
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>>721557489
If that's what you think why don't you just quit?
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>>721559510
>”heckin Japanese 4chan users are more valid! Listen to me!!!!”
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>>721558996
SEX with vizex
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Shame on Square Enix, shame on FF14, shame on YoshiP, shame on CS3.
They fired Susan Calloway but still were only too happy to use her vocals for their anniversary event in Osaka.
Shame on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Cy_5pQXIc

Fire Kate, Fire Sena, Fire Hiroi.
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>>721560305
visex
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alright it’s time to pack up, discussion is finished
the folder is opening
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Mogs mounts cheevos we got em
Drop crits on the boss we one shot em
Vizex with the Roe he's on bottom
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>>721561620
>>721558996
got reported for racism too many times since you dropped the BBC, didn't ya
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>>721561707
Are you okay?
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>>721561824
lol
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>>721561620
actual bars
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>>721560407
>They fired Susan Calloway but still were only too happy to use her vocals for their anniversary event in Osaka.
A while back, I lurked a bit and found Amanda Achen's second instagram account. She purged it of everything except one safe post, but if you search around using her handle, you can still find posts by people who directly tagged her. Before becoming FFXIV famous, she was posing completely nude for NSFW artists, and some of her photos could easily belong on Onlyfan. Calloway was fired for a vague retweeted post, while Amanda can be an ex pornstar without any issue.
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FF14 story was never good or interesting. It had its moments, but for every hour that was remotely interesting there was at least 6 hours of meaningless slop filler clearly intended to waste your time. The characters are all generic and the story is boring for anyone who has ever read a book in their life or hell even played another video game. Yshtola isn't even hot. Baffling how they managed to take the bad story and make it even worse with Dawntrail.
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>>721486409
and that's why you should stop playing after defeating endsinger.
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>>721487784
The aetherfront more or less as well
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>>721562349
I saw all of them, she posed completely naked with a guy on a beach and I'm 100% positive they fucked.
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so when is 7.35? i need new content to get bored of in 2 days
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>>721562349
>>721563551
Proofs?
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>>721554090
Island Sanctuary is like nothing else in the game
And it sucks
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>>721566913
Fact check
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>>721565241
This is her second instagram account, now purged:

>https://www.instagram.com/theartache/

And this is one of the artists directly tagging and naming her, posting a series of nude sketches. Pic related.

>https://www.instagram.com/p/CmfTHdBP36r/

There is much more explicit stuff hiding around if you have time to lurk.
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>>721565241
The beach thing that one anon mentioned: https://x.com/The_Art_Ache/status/1626128112131129345/photo/1
Her modeling portfolio: https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/3563060/viewall

This is just the stuff that I found within a couple minutes of just googling "amanda achen nude" no real sleuthing or anything.
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>>721568640
>shibari
What the fuck
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>>721565241
Type in "Amanda Achen Naked" or 'Nude' into an image search and you'll see pics of her with her flat egg tits out.
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>>721562349
>>721568640
>>721569146
Quick, forward this to the archduke of transphobia. Be sure to mention about Susan Calloway's BS cancellation.
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>>721497174
271k at best, mostly from debuffs.
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>>721549781
you remind me of this guy
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>>721562349
>>721560407
>They fired Susan Calloway
Why did they fire her anyway? I don't really care if a VA does porn on the side, that's really none of my business and I think it's pretty weird that anyone cares
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>>721573478
She liked a tweet from, coincidentally enough, Charlie Kirk saying that children shouldn't transition.
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>>721539735
just tell the chuds XIV is an antifa safe haven
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>>721565179
Tell me Broccoli...is there a chance that the new Deep Dungeon will be any good?
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>>721576981
Depends on who made it, if it's the same retards behind Orthos then it's doomed
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>>721576981
They will 100% ruin it.
The Quantum gimmick they locked behind it and are trying to push is yet more raidfag content, so they'll make sure to streamline the DD to ensure that raidfags can steamroll it to unlock Quantum ASAP.
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>>721578561
This is like the 4th time they've tried "Quantam Difficulty" and its never worked before
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>>721538726
>corn
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>>721578638
"""Quantum""" is just a scaling difficulty every mmo-like game has had for the past decade. It's so funny because it literally can work with everything in XIV and actually be a huge benefit for those that feel the game is either too strict or a snorefest

HOWEVERTHOUGH, Yoshida is a fucking retard only looking at engagement numbers and trying to please everyone, so Quantum will get shafted due to the simple fact only a fraction care about DD
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>>721556763
return to 3 months patches and with more content, they don't have any content
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>>721577156
I've solo'd all three and Orthos was the most fun. PotD is boring, HoH would be good if not for big rooms. Only complaint about Orthos is that the start is too tanky but almost immediately becomes balanced at floor 31 so its a non issue.
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did they fire kate yet
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>>721581124
If they did, do you think they would announce it?
Doubt it
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>>721579363
>only a fraction care about DD
>only a fraction of that fraction are going to care about some turboscaling boss fight
Yeah it's fucking doomed.
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>>721581124
Femzn...pretty...
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Have they shown literally anything about beastmaster yet?
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>>721581682
lol no, the first footage of beastmaster would be probably in March.
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This thread is doing gangbusters
Truly dead as fuck
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>>721581682
They haven't even started making BST lol
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>>721576981
Why do you gargle this dude's cum so hard? You know this avatarfag on a name basis? Don't think your brother will be to happy to hear that one
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>>721581813
>>721581913
>march
Isn't that like two years since they announced it? Wtf have they been doing this whole time?
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>>721581682
Yoshida thinks it'll hit around 7.5 and that's still all we've got, but we did get forewarning it was gonna be pretty late in the expansion since all they had at FanFest was a confirmation of what the job would be
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>>721581964
>brother
What
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>24 hours and a FFXIV thead didn't hit bump limit
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>>721583578
I'm too busy spamming shf threads, sorry!
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>>721583578
it's prob primarily because the op isn't easily searchable with terms for xiv, so you don't have the real hard schizos popping in to spam shit
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ummmm trancerbros??? weve been exposed....
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>>721584312
A truly awful video, one of her worse
stared at 4chan screencaps for 20
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I've never known or understand what a "trancer" is in regards to these threads because I'm not cringe/schizo/retarded, can someone give me a qrd? Not clicking on any licks or giving any schizo youtube views.
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>>721585721
>some peeps thought there was going to be a big tweest of hydaelyn BAD, zodiark GOOD
>this was revealed to not be the case in EW
>this mindbroke people
there's the tl;dr
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>>721585721
From what I've seen its a group of the playerbase who hated Endwalker and Venat, siding with Emet and Elidibus. This comic for instance.
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>>721585721
Originally people who wanted Hydaelyn to be the villain of EW, referencing a shitty fancomic where WoL enters "Zodiark Trance" and kills her. It quickly became "anyone who says anything bad about EW" and now gets spammed by a single schizo who stalks random fags on twitter and tries to get 4chan to care about them.
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>>721585948
>>721585969
>>721586003
ty bros
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>>721584312
I don't think the timing of this is right, people are wanting the attention on Kate, on YoshiP's response, on Square Enix, on Tracey Fullerton and FF14 not on some retard trancer group from Endwalker.
I agree this is one of the worst videos AI thena has put out yet if for no other reason than timing, complete wrong time to post this.
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Since Shadowbringers, I believed that Hydaelyn and Zodiark were complementary. Killing them both was retarded.
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>>721586557
In the Westwolves timeline "Hydaelyn" was actually Venat piloting Zodiark's body.
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The entire Eden story feels wasted. Nothing came from it. I so very strongly believed it was a hint, but I assume someone decided to "SUBVERT EXPEXTATIONS" with their shitty writing.

>>721586652
>Westwolves

Huh? Never heard of it.
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>>721587063
>Huh? Never heard of it.
Twas a grand, glorious dream we shared.
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>>721587382
>A world where we got Beastmaster and Blue Mage as a full job, Corsair, Geomancer and Blitzballer
>Valigarmanda so powerful it becomes a recurring boss
>Brown loincloth wives
>Aztec temples WITHOUT Allagan glowing trash
>Besieged
>NO Wuk Lamat
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Venat committed a genocide THOUGHIE
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>>721589049
Define genocide, she technically multiplied all life by 14
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>>721589382
>BlueMageDanny
BLUbros...?
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>FFXIV content creators are trooning out
https://www.twitch.tv/ciderspider
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>PvP not perfect but pretty solid in EW
>completely fuck it up in DT
Man...
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>>721591087
don't look at the WoW ones
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>>721586003
>It quickly became "anyone who says anything bad about EW" and now gets spammed by a single schizo who stalks random fags on twitter and tries to get 4chan to care about them.
This doesn't seem right, considering most EW threads were moaning on endless repeat about Elpis' time loop in the same bot-like verbage for two years.
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>>721593034
You really don't want to talk about "bot-like verbage", little buddy.
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>>721486409
>Muh genocidal plague
That's such a stupid trope. Even the Black Death didn't have 100% fatality rate, and even the primitive medical treatment of that time greatly improved the odds of survival.
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>>721593193
Didn't mean to step on schizoid toes. I'll let you have your unmolested narrative.
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>>721593273
Plague was multifaceted, not only was it a flesh-putrifying illness spreading around but it was also compounded by them polluting the planet into being an uninhabitable wasteland.
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>>721593335
That's right, stay in the deltatroon thread where you belong.
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>>721576981
it needs to shake up the formula somehow. no, quantum is not going to do it. the easier checkpoints are nice, but that is just more accessibility and not content.

they should make use of the extra abilities system that other pieces of content have and let you dual class or something. make enemies have a lot less hp but hit a lot harder. the random boss mobs in EO are a good example. i also kinda miss the rare spawns that POTD has. i'd also like to see puzzle floors. something like 'you have to click the 3 braziers in the displayed order' or something. legend of zelda kind of stuff. why is every floor a selection of squares? let me climb a tower or something. we have 3 dimensions to work in. i'd like to see negative buffs that affect gameplay more. maybe make the blind floors reduce your line of sight significantly, add ice floors, rooms that have multiple traps. have traps that are rare and really stupid but cool to see, like something like this:

https://youtu.be/90DC_ri0WEY?t=41

finally, i think mimics should be more ubiquitous and not just be treasure chests. have special mobs that if not taken care off fast enough can link nearby mobs, or place/activate traps, steal a treasure chest and run with it, maybe specifically guard the exit.
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>>721587063
The first two wings of Eden were great but its ending sucked. It was like the opposite of pretty much every raid story up until that point, which started weak and ended strong. I almost want to blame Covid for it because Bozja also had a dogshit ending. Just a lot of wasted potential for both, but Eden is particularly annoying. After dealing with Emet-Selch and Elidibus and having a moment in the story where we're basically forced to say we'd want to try to understand Fanny Danny, we meet an Ascian that's NOT TOTALLY INSANE and not actively trying to end the world and we just kill him with no conversation or really anything going on. It had the potential to be a REALLY interesting story where we're able to communicate with an Ascian, learn more about them, have Gaia glimpse into her memories of being one, etc.
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sex with Khloe Aliapoh
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>>721491803
We could of recovered in the timeline where they pulled the trigger on giving us an actual Ilsabard expac and the doign the Final Days after.
Instead they were so desperate to ride the SHB popularity wave that they ruined two expansions by mashing the together.
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>>721585721
Long version
>this comic >>721585969 was the rallying cry of people that thought Hydaelyn was going to be evil, turned out to be like five ESLs from Europe and Slavic territories that thought that would happen
>buffed out their numbers with game official-forum trolls, account thieves and Garlemald worshipers
>still totals like 30 people but now they have guys that know how to spam places effectively, even having real money sunk into it in the account thieves' and forum trolls' cases
>/v/ turns into 24/7 spam lasting all the way up to very very recently and only abating in the past couple of months, /xivg/ turns out to be too well moderated even with how piss poor their moderation is
>some guy avatarfagging as Emet-Selch on /vrpg/ infiltrates their gay discord and exposes them as a bunch of rejects and account trolls
>some of them are so buck broken they dedicate themselves to spamming FFXIV threads on 4chan forever, entirely on their own time
>all the rest just lost interest, didn't care about the avatarfag's about expose or weren't even aware of it, and scattered to the winds to be less retarded
They're only still remembered anymore because they were the forming fetus of FFXIV's haterbase as the game grew larger and culturally eclipsed other MMOs, and because some of them are still buck broken and turned into twitter hall monitors looking for people that don't loathe the game to attack them, and shart really hard if the people they harass are smart and just block them or tell the ex-trancers to kill themselves, which got some pretty primo butthurt screencaps posted here trying to farm sympathy in support of spammers and trolls
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>>721594076
>in the opening of Eden they bring up Emet and ponder what might have been if you'd had time to actually talk things out
>Mitron, an Ascian who was betrayed by Emet and has been calling out for help for a hundred years appears and doesn't attack
>"OH SHIT IT'S AN ASCIAN KILL HIM"
>seeing his love betray him on a dime after so long of trying to reach her mindbreaks him and turns him into a threat
So fucking stupid.
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>be trapped in a prison of light for 100 years after being betrayed by your ally
>finally get out and reunite with the latest incarnation of your wife
>she's been stolen from you by a teenage lesbian and they both kill you
name an NPC you had it harder than Mitron
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>>721594197
>hydaelyn being antagonistic

was a legitimate theory till the aftermath of Elpis. and while the voice that came after destroying zodiark wasn't her in retrospect it did raise suspicion. after 5.2 and elidibus claiming that the mothercrystal wasn't sentient it became pretty likely that hyadelyn was suffering the same malady that he himself was. it should also be noted that just because hydaelyn may have been antagonistic in some way, this in no way exonerates the ascians

i'm pleased as punch that the grinding gear faggots are still shittershattered about her not being evil
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>>721594273
It's particularly irksome to me because Gaia has the potential to be a REALLY cool character but they do basically nothing with her. An Ascian born into an innocent girl that has inklings of those memories and is a link to that power (and necessarily has the Echo). And Ryne is my favorite character in the entire game with an asterisk for the last bit of Eden. So it sucks that the story centering around them shits the bed right at the finish line.

Just a ton of wasted potential and it just turns into a perfect encapsulation of Nomura-isms and not in a good way.
>we're friends because we're friends and NOTHING is more important than that
>muh memories (muhmories if you will)
>a weird autistic fixation on a specific piece of food as a symbol of friendship
>MUH DARKNESS
>nefarious bad guy that's sympathetic because he's sympathetic but we do absolutely nothing with that sympathetic angle and he might as well be a pure evil monster except that we say he's sad or whatever
Drives me up the fucking wall because with some edits it could have been really good, and it just feels like every character becomes a retard as soon as Urianger and Thancred leave. I mean, who would win in a fight?
>a love that transcends lifetimes, of two eternal souls linked together across multiple worlds and over multiple different lives, always drawn together and sharing their bond since before time began
or
>some dorky teenager you met two months ago that bought you cookies this one time and keeps insisting she's your bestie
I get Ryne's adorable but come on.
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>>721593709
Disregard this wall of text and it's ai slop, poster is a huge fan of erping with big green roegadyn cocks in the Quicksand and sometimes at the Gold Saucer.
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>>721594919
cocoli's greatest ally
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>>721594919
>>721561707
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>>721594602
Gerolt
>be an unparalleled smith
>fall in love and marry your dream girl
>wife takes out a ton of loans so she can start a shop, is fucking awful at it and racks up so much debt that now the loan sharks want her dead
>take all the debt into your name and skip town to save her life
>somehow, she decides you're the villain here and dedicates the rest of her life to torturing you after she falls ass backwards into the tomestone market
>every night you dream of your wedding while she counts money and thinks about how to further ruin your life
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Janitor applications are now being accepted.
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>>721595054
well, gerolt also can't keep his drinking under control. if he could sober up he'd be far better off, but at least with rowena basically owning him he won't be allowed to fall too deep into his cups
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>>721595054
WoL eats Rowena's crusty pussy for tomestone gear
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>>721585721
>we've hit the point where we're explaining the trancer meme to new players
Damn
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>>721585721
you're really bothered that shit you gave athena was just fraudulent and bad huh
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>>721587994
Heccin problematic CHUD
I hope this shit is on its way out in vidya, but I'm not so sure
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>>721593709
Random stuff like that would be cool, but the dev team is pretty allergic to fun as of late
I feel like they pigeonholed themselves with however they coded it so we're stuck with block generation
I just can't understand why everything they want to do is raid stuff, it keeps a select few progging but is ultimately detrimental to the game even for raiders since everything is raiding all the time
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>>721491803
No, DT will always exist to hold that title.
>>721504620
A shame about the shitter in the back.
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>>721595054
Wait, where is this all said?
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>>721596383
relic weapon questlines
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>>721596469
Unless it's during Eureka, which I haven't done, I don't recall anything like this being said.
Unless it was during the early parts of the Zodiac questline and I just don't remember after 10 years.
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>>721596383
Encyclopaedia Eorzea, but the thing about dreaming of his wedding day is from Bozja.
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>>721596546
>The man was happy once upon a time
How the fuck has he not paid back his debt juat via all the relics he's done?
Especially the manderville stuff. No fucking way did he do work for Godbert and not make bank.
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>>721596735
rowena very purposefully keeps making insane leaps of logic on his debts and what she's owed
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>>721596735
Rowena finances all the relic stuff and then fucks him on payment through various means which is how she keeps him on a leash. He always ends up in debt to her again by the end of it.
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I hate Rowena so much bros
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can we swap Rowena and Mowen? nobody has to know
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>>721562349
I don't think someone should be fired for having done porn in the past. But that's neither here nor there, the firing of Susan is unjustifiable in my eyes compared to the reputational damage Kate had already inflicted to Square Enix while still remaining employed.
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>>721596735
basically she knows what kind of booze he likes and then jacks up the price on it.

mind you, gerolt isn't in debt to rowena in the dawntrail relic quest. the expedition itself is
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>>721486409
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnKQLNVfH44
at first it was almost jarring but once the melancholy hits with such a beautiful theme it was ludokino.
I almost get teary eyed on command when hearing it
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So Venat had to kill off everyone because the ancients had to much aether to fight emo bird... but in the end we that were 7/13 parts ancients and Zenos that was a direct offspring of a pureblood ancients were able to fend off emo bird?
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>>721598850
I miss Zenos so much.
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>>721598850
Venat had to kill everyone because they were going to fuck the Lifestream to save their own comfort rather than face reality. The Ancients could manipulate dynamis, they could have defeated the Endsinger if they'd had the resolve to triumph against despair. But they didn't so Venat had to force evolve mankind to be able to do so.
Zenos being able to resist Endsinger is just bad writing because he was plagued with the same apathy and disregard for his life that the Ancients had, he was just there because his actual expansion got cancelled and they had to do something with him.
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>>721599054
>But they didn't so
We never know because Venat commit genocide against them
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>>721598850
Shard completion has little or no bearing on an individual's power level, more like their power ceiling or simple capacity for aether

Ran'jit was capable of soloing the Scions but not (You), Warrior of Light AKA Azem is just cracked the fuck out and is an amazing warrior no matter the shard or level of completion

Zenos apparently is Warrior of Light level on the source owing specifically to having Ancient juice in his soul from Emet-Selch's parentage (hence Varis was also a huge guy) but he's not shabby at all and still has huge potential even on other shards and as other selves as demonstrated by Durante/Golbez

Also Venat split everybody into 14 amnesic copies of themselves because they were just gonna kill literally everything and themselves to force the issue on Zodiark making everything better and pretend nothing happened
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>>721599119
Yes we do because there were lengthy debates about it and they refused. They did not have the emotional maturity to resist and were not interested in building it. If they were allowed to do what they wanted, they would have died off anyway via eating the Lifestream to sate their comforts and eventually Ra-la when they got bored like they were going to do before the Final Days.
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>>721599141
The people that venat scarified literally were gone FOR GOOD while the people that were scarified for summoning Zodiark was able to come back later and the plan was to bring them back when they've found the solution to fix the problems.
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I thought Venat did all those things because we went back in time and told her the things she did, and she had to keep the timeline intact, because any deviation means we might not have gone back to tell her all that stuff, and he wouldn't have put the tracker on Meteion.
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>>721599309
They weren't looking for a solution though. They planned to bury their heads in the sand and continue sacrificing to Zodiark.
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>>721599309
The Zodiark plan was stupid because it was sentencing a bunch of unrelated and completely innocent life to take the Ancients' place in Zodiark, there was no plan at any point to simply dissolve Zodiark (which would free the Ancient souls but not revive them)
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>>721599368
If that were the case Venat wouldn't have led debates against the Zodiark faction trying to convince them to find the will to carry on themselves.
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>Venat had enough people willing to sacrifice themselves FOR good, their souls and everything to make her a big god and destroy all life
>but there was not enough people willing to find a tracked emo bird and stop her
bad writing
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>>721599609
Venat only had twelve people.
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y'all niggas time loopin in here? elpis discourse again?
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>>721599658
well trancers were mentioned so they either think they're welcome or they're trying to get new people with old bait
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>>721599658
Yep, I guess you better fuck off back to the deltatroon thread like you said you would. You should be happy we're not shitting on your gorilla tranny obsession for once.
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>>721599654
And over 12 people of super powerful beans that are basically gods and can do whatever they wish is not enough to stop an emo bird which they knew the location of?
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>>721599484
I don't think that contradicts it. She made a last ditch effort to change their minds before sundering them.
The sundering is a big thing it makes sense she was somewhat hesitant.
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>>721599703
that nigga below you is really really mad the jig is up
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>>721487784
>next expansion we get a "bad" DRK WoL antagonist with dream related powers
>final dungeon is us going in and giving her a nightmare to force wake them up

Imagine if you will, killing the antagonists happy "What if" situations of herself. Killing them as a protector of their homeland that was destroyed in life but not in the dream, killing them as a goddess of love, attacking them as a version with a happy family they'd die protecting as a final boss.

Give me that Yoko Taro styled madness and for once let us be the explicit bad guys destroying something nice. We got the very lightest of experiences of that in DT when we shut the lights off in the final zone but we can go so much harder.
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>>721599731
Said emo bird was turning their aether against them. Only dynamis could stop her, which the ancients were pretty much incapable of.
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>>721599731
Those twelve people also lived an eternity in comfort. Maybe they had enough hope to place trust in the future but knew they couldn't do it themselves.
>>721599764
Boil a little harder because people are actually discussing the game you shitflinging dogfucker faggot. Kill yourself.
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>>721599828
So they could make an offspring, like Zenos. And we that were 7/13 part of an ancient could still stop her.

They could also just make a spear from non-aether, chuck at her and kill her.
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>>721599913
>Those twelve people also lived an eternity in comfort. Maybe they had enough hope to place trust in the future but knew they couldn't do it themselves.

another key factor of trancers is that they don't actually play the game
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>>721599828
That's incorrect. Dynamis could not mesh into the dense aether of the Ancients' bodies which is why she had to target their creations, that's all. We can see the Ancients affecting dynamis around them with Meteion and the flowers. They could absolutely manipulate dynamis.
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>>721600006
we're explicitly told they can't manipulate dynamis, influencing it because they have emotions ain't the same thing
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>>721600039
>can create beings made out of dynamis
>can't manipulate it
???
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>>721600006
this is also wrong
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>>721486409
the music in this Dungeon.
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>>721600097
meteions are not made of dynamis
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>>721600039
No, we are not. You're free to show proof I'm wrong. What we're explicitly told is that being unable to penetrate their bodies with dynamis beams is why she went after their creations instead. Again, what you're shown multiple times on screen is that the dynamis of Hermes affects Meteion and the flowers. Hermes created Meteion too, in case you forgot. The Nier collab written by Oda also says that Ancient magic used emotions which is why Hades is so powerful.
>>721600134
You don't know the lore Cocoli. Almost nobody understands dynamis lore somehow.
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>>721600097
They're not made of dynamis, but they're low enough on aether that they can tap ito it
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>>721599913
>Boil a little harder because people are actually discussing the game you shitflinging dogfucker faggot. Kill yourself.
Hey wait a minute this isn't discussing the game. This is just weening.
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The Ancients discovered dynamis because they could influence it. They discovered the concept in the first place because they were influencing the color of the flowers. The Ancients could influence dynamis, end of story.
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>>721600218
you don't know the lore. you couldn't provide the source of your claim even if you wanted to. i'm just going to keep pointing out you're wrong

Remember the the ancients would have eventually turned into the Nibirun. therefore, Venat was absolutely correct to sunder the world
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I'm going to have sex with Cocoli
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>>721600664
I just sourced my claim, dumbfuck. If the cutscenes in Elpis of Hermes pushing his candied apple obsession into Meteion wasn't enough for you >>721600529
>would have eventually turned into the Nibirun
Yes, that's correct. Yes, Venat was correct to sunder them. Glad we agree. Your point here, aside from showing you can't follow a reply chain?
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>>721600664
>Remember the the ancients would have eventually turned into the Nibirun
There's no proof of this, and EVEN if that was the case should we all just kill ourselves right now because in 1m year or so we might also turn out that way?
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>>721600731
we've all had her
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>>721600802
there he is. the real and true trancer. you always were easy to bait
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AIIIIIEEE ZODIARK
TURN YOUR TANK STANCE ON!!!!!!!
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>>721600831
but she enjoyed my cock the most
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>>721600795
you changed 'manipulate' into 'influence'. if you can't keep your argument straight why the fuck should i associate with it?

you are wrong and will continue to be wrong and no wordplay is going to change the fact that the ascians were in the wrong
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>>721600963
said that to you too, huh
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>>721594851
You forgot "muh OC with her shitty tsundere personality". Because you're that same person. I do like it for those reasons but even I admit Oda went full Nomura... assuming it wasn't Nomura himself
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>>721600973
Dynamis is never actively manipulated by anyone, it can't be. It's an emotional energy. Kill yourself you fucking retard. You know exactly what was meant. If you can influence dynamis with your emotions, that is how you beat the Endsinger. By pushing your hope into the dynamis and overpowering her.
>ascians were in the wrong
Yes they were. Again, what is your point here? You don't even know what the fuck my argument is, clearly. You can't follow 4chan posts any better than you can follow cutscenes. Here, I'll spell it out as simple as I can for you:
The Zodiark faction was wrong. They were wrong because they were going to eat the Lifestream.
Venat was right to sunder them.
The Ancients couldn't defeat Endsinger not because they were physically incapable, but because they were emotionally immature.
Understand, retarded nigger?
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>>721601230
>he can't control his emotions
strange how the scions were able to do in ultima thule. and meteion's attack. how can you be so wrong and so confident of it?
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>>721599246
>You can deal with your grief and loss and rebuild
>BUT NOT LIKE THAT
Venat kept Zodiark around so long as it served her ends.
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>>721601316
Those instances would have failed if the emotions weren't genuine. Jesus you're an idiot. Not replying to you again, you're just looking to fling shit.
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>>721600941
my theory/feature request for 8.0
>legacy movesets
toggle on each job as it was at previous level caps in some occult crescent bullshit or whatever
EXPERIENCE dark knight when it was fully kitted out at level 60 and had a bunch of counters and parry cancer
RIDE THE LION of scholar at level 70 during stormblood when it still had DoTs, janky pet AI included
PEETAH, REMEMBA DA TIME when samurai's highest level was 70 and you had a mercy-kill attack for enemies at low HP
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>>721600664
Disregard this post. He's still sucking roegadyn cocks daily.
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>>721601514
>lose argument
>fall back on neutered BBC shitpost
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>>721601584
Just stop gargling his cum. It's all you gotta do.
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DT's soul "conundrum" is barely one
they should have made the Endless getting more glitchy as time passed since they lost their sense of self with more data accumulating in the meso terminal
then when they get really glitchy they turn into those monsters in livingmemory and speen tries to recreate another same one to replace it

like the monkey stealing the guy's ring in living memory, they should have made it like when you found the monkey its revealed that the monkey has been hoarding tens of the same exact ring because it keeps stealing it from the same guy because the monkey was once the original endless having the ring

So now you have a solid reason to kill them and not 'lol were tired let us rest'
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>>721601005
Nah, only me. But she did tell me "that faggot avatarfagging as Ozymandius" couldn't find the clit and put in the wrong hole twice.
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>>721600941
>>721601478
oh right the entire reason i even responded to a funny tank stance shitpost:
WAR at level 70 so new guys can try out tank stance and DPS stance actually doing stuff when WAR switched between them
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>>721599703
can I get a qrd on trancers?
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>>721601584
>>721601639
never forget that these threads belong to the lalas
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>>721601686
>>721594197
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>>721594197
>>some guy avatarfagging as Emet-Selch on /vrpg/ infiltrates their gay discord and exposes them as a bunch of rejects and account trolls
Is he the same person who's using rhetoric from Nick Land to make his points about how Final Fantasy is about a mix of Christanity and Buddhism, vertical morality and "how you don't find your own purpose in life"?
Stellafag would hate him
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>>721601658
Avatarfagging is doing it over a long period, not two one-off posts.
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>>721501274
>Elpis was fine
Elpis was fujobait and literally memory erasure machine and time travel nonsense. What are you on about?
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>>721601686
>Ul'dah royal family bow to the Ancients
>they control Ishgard with an iron fist
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>>721601848
>>721601865
Goddammit Emet-Selch is the real Anti-Stellafag isn't he kek
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>>721594851
This sounds a lot like KH2...
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>>721601865
She also said you couldn't get it up because you already came 35 minutes ago
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>>721601848
>>721601929
>>721601865
Who the fuck is Stellafag?
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>>721601917
>lahabrea woz keeled?
>actiwate echo twansportation to ze first
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>>721504114
It's rancid dogshit.
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What's the point of doing the new EX for weapons when the newest relic is 5 IL higher?
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Go back to /ffg/, we don't need stellafag in here too. There's enough mental illness.
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>>721602083
newest EX is arguably less grinding, especially if you haven't yet started a relic
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>MH Wilds collab
>The hammer is a fucking staff
>The Insect glaive is a scythe
I don't know what the actual fuck is going on anymore.
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>>721602083
glamours. its always for glamours
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>>721602104
Not him, but I also don't know who Stellafag is. QRD?
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>>721601387
You can't even use that letter combination or you get bot jannied now
Pour one out for the fallen
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>>721602110
Have the paissa or whatever datamined them already? Is there a video?
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>>721602110
the DRG spear is a halberd, it's the gunlance (not sure why it's not the IG)
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>>721602171
Yes you do, kill yourself.
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>>721602110
>>721602207
>more ugly primal weapons
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>>721602104
Cmiiw but i'm pretty sure stellafag started out in v and was already playing 14 when barry threatened to rape him
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>>721602284
He literally didn't play any Final Fantasies until last year and only started playing because Barry kept raping him in arguments. They're both lunatics but at least Barry is funny. Stellafag just starts spamming about himself like he's a fucking celebrity.
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>>721602203
It's on the special site for the collab
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/monsterhunterwilds/
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>721602373
>Barry kept raping him in arguments
I guess the 15 fan community does exist then after all.
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>11 raid perfect to give everyone a cool 11 AF armor
>they dont do it
are you fucking kidding me.
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>>721602110
unironically i don't think there was a chance for WAR getting the hammer on account of arkveld having a switch axe

i'm hopeful for the actual S&S for paladin though i like it better than the charge blade
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>>721602284
>when barry threatened to rape him
wtf is wrong with these schizo posters
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>>721602480
dancer technically got one, mostly because a major female NPC wears dancer artifact (this also means males don't get their equivalent dancer artifact)

my perfect copium world is every job getting an FFXI artifact armor port while all the XIV exclusive jobs like reaper and gunbreaker get a FFXI-ized artifact
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>>721602373
>Barry is funny
Barry elicits a lot of laughs but he's not deliberately trying to make a joke. You're seriously performing Barry apologia in a 14 thread, you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself why you do this.
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>>721602602
barry's deranged and often threatens rape against people who minorly piss him off, i know he's been persistent enough to get rangebanned a couple times and he's like a roach and finds a way back
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>>721530191
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>>721602624
>calling barry funny because he's a retard means i'm apologizing for him and think he's joking
Get the dog cock out of your brain, dipshit.
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>>721531585
>>721531674
"Trancer" is just code for "aren't satisfied with lazy nips lazily milking their paypigs with minimum effort"
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>>721602729
that's so far removed from what zodiark trance is supposed to be that it's actually funny
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>>721602602
He threatened someone who he kept calling a 'Stellafag' for liking Stella's FNC backstory and potential Etro ties over Lunafreya and the removal of the FNC mythology, not necessarily the Stellafag who is being discussed. One person who was tired of Zeal's Paul Joseph Watson-style theatrics and leaks where he alleged that Aerith was the real enemy of Remake project and Masato Kato was Nomura's mentor infiltrated his Discord, dumped a bunch of screenshots and then started calling himself Stellafag. And then he (?) started namefagging.
Could've sworn he was a woman until that XVI thread kek
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>>721602683
I read the greentext. Is that /not/ what you're doing?
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>>721602926
>Masato Kato was Nomura's mentor
Anyone with half a brain knows that Soraya SaGa and her husband mentored Nomura like their son. Masato Kato was also a veteran game designer, just who was Zeal fooling?
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>>721602793
Nah, that's literally how it's used these days.
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>you can do TBN and the picto thing with armor skills in MH
thats cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca1iBhq-C90
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>>721602992
Barry is funny because he's a double digit IQ retard making insane claims. You are funny because you're a midwit redditor that fucks dogs and thinks you're superior to anyone and can't help but sniff your own farts routinely and somehow think your arrogance isn't immediately noticeable.
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>>721603141
nop
post-ironic "stop calling me chud" stuff has no power here
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>>721603165
>You are funny because you're a midwit redditor that fucks dogs and thinks you're superior to anyone and can't help but sniff your own farts routinely and somehow think your arrogance isn't immediately noticeable.
Anon are you ok?
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>>721603062
>Soraya SaGa and her husband mentored Nomura like their son
Wasn't Xenogears supposed to be Final Fantasy 7?
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Little Buddy has taken over his brain with the power of his stand, Homestuck. He is doomed to rant about dog cocks and Reddit until his final breaths.
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>>721603206
She just doesn't like that people disagree with her and hates it when people don't discuss exclusively what he wants to discuss. She also hates that people have different opinions and preferences. Disturbingly Barry is the exact same.
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>>721603281
FF7, Chrono Trigger, and Xenogears all started as the same pitch and split off into different projects which is why they have some shared elements.
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>>721603186
t. uses that word unironically because people don't like xiv
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>>721603281
>>721603378
Story goes, a man named Tetsuya wanted to make the next Final Fantasy numbering title a break from the recent Final Fantasy games that came before it. It had more urban elements, a strong dark science-fiction bent and comments on contemporary issues such as organized crime and class divide, etc., and it would have gameplay systems that haven't yet been tried in other Final Fantasy games but instead in other genres including platformer-style movement such as running around and jumping thanks to its fully 3D level design and free camera. Mecha robots and politics were going to be big story components, putting this closer to Armored Trooper Votoms, Devilman, or Space Runaway Ideon than Final Fantasy, about personal experiences affected by violence and the separation of church and state.

The producer rejected Tetsuya's pitch because it was too dark and complicated for a numbering title. He said yes to another pitch with the conventions from past Final Fantasy games such as linear progression from cutscene to battle to town to world map, contextual interactions that varied per level with identical inputs, and limited exploration on flat 2D planes with point A to B navigation. This time it used storytelling and railroading to bring people from one FMV cutscene to another almost seamlessly. This was known as the interactive movie design philosophy, as the producer wanted to use games to tell stories that could stand up to movies, and this pitch was very much inspired by shonen anime and some level of social commentary on the environment but had a very classic Final Fantasy narrative on metaphysics and grand philosophical ideas.

Tetsuya's pitch was good enough to get a dev team of young hires from other projects and a budget but Square suffered losses and mismanagement, this new game became compromised from what Tetsuya really intended. People still ask about the original vision Tetsuya had for his game in hushed tones.

Being Tetsuya is suffering.
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>>721603517
Kill yourself stellafag.
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>>721603517
Tetsuya... Takahashi or Nomura? Which one are you talking about?
>>721603562
Stellafag might actually be dead, he's disappeared for a little bit. Was this something he wrote?
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>>721601707
Disregard this post, he's a huge fan of bgc.
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>>721603608
>Implying this only happened once to developers named Tetsuya in the history of Final Fantasy
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Sex with every single femlala that has ever existed. Past, present, and future.
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>>721598850
Everything after 5.0 is just a bad fanfiction of 5.0 itself, don't think too hard about it. Ishikawa certainly didn't either.
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>>721603517
>urban elements
>a strong dark science-fiction bent and comments
>contemporary issues such as organized crime and class divide, etc.,
>gameplay systems that haven't yet been tried in other Final Fantasy games
>including platformer-style movement such as running around and jumping
>fully 3D level design and free camera.
>Mecha robots and politics were going to be big story components
>personal experiences affected by violence and the separation of church and state
This all explains the Xenofag's love for Versus XIII
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>>721602110
nobody cares
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>>721603854
>>721603608
>>721603517
Holy shit you're right this is both Versus and Xenogears lol
>that means Kitase ruined Nomura's career like how Sakaguchi did with Takahashi
Oh fuck lmao
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>>721603926
In retrospect it all makes sense. Nomura was very publicly dissatisfied with the level design framework and storytelling 10 and 13 had, anon. Takahashi was the same and even said 'you can't tell stories and express yourself in a video game through 2D walk meshes' as soon as 7 came out. I think he even threw shit at Square when he said 'level design is the most important part of an RPG' when he looked for developers.

Assuming the person who wrote that essay is the anon I'm thinking of I think he's responsible for discovering that KH2 level designers worked on 14 and 16 after Versus.
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>>721604126
>KH2 level designers worked on 14 and 16
At least they know how to do linear right lol.
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>>721603062
>Anyone with half a brain knows that Soraya SaGa and her husband mentored Nomura like their son
Am I brainless for not knowing this? 14 was my entry point to FF but I have at last heard of these names before.
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>>721604378
>Am I brainless
Yes. I didn't read the rest of your post.
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>>721603781
>Ishikawa
Wasn't she who taught Daichi Hiroi? I'm sure he worked for 14 before Matsuno took him in.
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>>721604902
We already brought up Nomura so let's bring up his new protege: I think Akiko Ishibashi and Tomoco Kanemaki should write main story plotlines for the next expac. Inherit the legacy of Yaeko Sato.



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