So "dream no more" is the canon ending, right?
>You played masterfully and proved you have a Steel Soul. >Thank you for taking the time to explore and conquer the world of Hollow Knight: Silksong.>We'll meet again with a new challenge for you...0.8% of players have the steel soul achievement on steam
I wish there were more gauntlets in this game, not one of them is anywhere close to Trial of the Fool.
>>721500128Is there a strat for Steel Soul that isn't just playing well? It seems absurd, especially in a game like Silksong
>>721500186Once you go down to two masks left, save quit the game and try again. Broken mask is excellent for this strategy.
>53% of steam players beat the judgeOh so all the bitching was just a meme then
>>721500186Exit if you ever get to low health.
Thanks for your tips last thread, I killed the fly chef pretty easily
>want to replay the game>I would get bored of replaying it so waiting for the DLC is the best ideaThis sucks.
I finally got the cursed ending. I dont know why i was struggling so much, GMS is not a difficult boss. Her moves are easily read and theres plenty of time to react. It was cool and im glad theres a lot of lore even if i dont 100% follow whats going on all the time. Now i can finally move on.
I can’t wait for the godhome style dlc where we finally get to fight Finale Trobbio
>>721500186What I did for Hollow Knight was grind Godhome until I became a god myself and then cleared it like that.I am currently waiting for Silksong to get a boss rush so I can do the same thing.
>>721500283Margit has 71% completion thoughbeit
More than anything else, Team Cherry really struck gold with the visual style of these games
>>721500445Margit is way earlier.
>>721500283Of course it was.And now that there are guides out there people are beelining for the poison tools + anti fire shit early on to beat him.
I liked Red Memory more than the Abyss Climb
>>721500283Soul Master and Mantis Lords have about 46% completion for comparison.
>>721500050most likely, though it could be embrace the void/delicate flowerhowever, I suspect the Lord of Shades form was just for funsies for the people who were able to get that ending
>>721500548I got the fire charm thinking I needed it to progress through lava land. And then I didn't even realize it worked on last judge.
>>721500559HK has 9-10M owners though. Silksong presumably only has 3-3.75M so far.
TFW hollow knight 3 is you playing as the hollow knight and ends with you storing the source of the lifeblood in your dreams because you’re the only being alive that has experience dealing with that kind of problem
>>721500608I think the dlc endings were added because they wanted the hollow knight to not be dead for a future project.
>>721500608its important to note that the moment the knight got voidhear he became the shade lordif you dreamnail the notchozo statue in the abyss it calls you shade lordgodhome just focuses and reveals the fullest autistic potential of a godmeaning radiance = absolute radiancealso mean knight with void heart = shade lord
>>721500050Dream no More is probably the canon ending, although it could technically be Embrace the Void instead. I think the brief appearance of the Shade Lord was just to signal that Ghost's potential is still there even if that ending never actually happened.
>>721500557>Abyss ClimbIts a shame that crescendo music gets ignored because of the finicky platforming.
>>721500745>its important to note that the moment the knight got voidheart he became the shade lordI never understood why watching the flashback of his past made him able to unite the void at will.
>>721500621I think the bigger difference is that HK has gone on sale. Only 71.4% of players have even beaten False Knight. That almost 30% is going to mostly be comprised of people that got the game for $6 having heard the name but not even really knowing what kind of game it is, deciding they don't like it before even making it out of king's pass, and then never touching it again.
>>721500763Yeah, RM has the benefit of being able to precisely control when the music swells and when certain instruments are added, since they can just cue shit up for the next cutscene.
>>721500745This is the big Godhome lore people forget and misconstrue. You're already the Shade Lord because of Void Heart.
Crawfather was great, some nice story elements and a pretty fun fight. I wish more of the bosses in this game had struck this balance, a lot of them felt fairly arbitrary.
>>721500608>>721500753Any discrepancy between Silksong and either Dream No More or the Godhome endings could be reconciled by offscreen happenings between the two games.
>>721500878Should have been an Act 2 boss.
Hornet = SamusWeavers = Chozo
>>721500280>>721500186alternativelly you can just make backups of your save at certain progression milestones, so if you die you still get fucked but don't go back to 0. I do this is some other game but will do it with Silksong like this:>1st checkpoint: after beating Bell Beast (this one is mostly so you don't have to go through the boring introduction again if you die)>2nd checkpoint: after beating Widow>3rd checkpoint: after getting the three melodies
>>721500557Same, it made me more emotional, probably because Hornet is easier to emphasize with since she has a voice, both her and ghost deserve a hug though.
>>721500934Which is crazy because this game has Busch more castlevania energy.
>>721500858It wouldnt have hurt them to give that escape scene more breathing room. You could see that they wanted to make it cinematic.
>>721500928I had the same thought.
So why didn't Pale King give the Void Heart to Hollow Knight
Give me loreeeeeeeee
>>721500637Sufferman must suffer
Why did the Bell Beast have a Silk Heart, what she chewed on it and got wrapped up, they're pretty lore heavy items to just be randomly given away
>>721500825The cutscene isn't that important I feel. I think the relevant portion there is that you took the Kingsoul and bathed it in the void egg you were born in.And since the Kingsoul is literally a god-tier aspect, Void Heart lets you prwctically become a Void God too.
>>721501108Cool lore fact: Lace is cute.
>>721501101All according to keikaku. We have no reason to believe that everything didn’t go as planned. Foresight is at the same time an extremely powerful power and an extremely useless power.
>>721501059>Busch more castlevania energyI never played castlevania. What similarities does it have ?
>>721500313read the journal, that's not a fly, it's a roach, all Sinner's Road enemies are roaches.>>721500928>>721500890someone should make a mod to bring Crawfather, Pinstress and Tormented Trobbio to act 2 (especially because their reward would see better use early on).
>>721500608>>721500698>>721500745>>721500890Or the shades can choose whether to assemble the Shade Lord like one big Megazord.
>>721501226The tools are very castlevania. Hornet has alucsrds swaying turn around animation. The Cogwork core is very reminiscent of some draculas castle stuff.
>>721501108Ogrim spanks it to thoughts of Isma every single night while laying in his cavern of dung.
You can love a character and still admit when they’re wrong. I love the pale king but I acknowledge his flaws (none he's perfect) and I can hold him accountable for his wrongdoings (he's done nothing wrong in his life) and call him out on his actions (which are always right).
Which way red bug?
>>721501360holy shit, he is literally me
>>721501393He’s wrong for the right reasons.
>>721501358The shards also feel like a weirder version of mana.
>>721501393I don't particularly care for the Pale Retard. He had the power of foresight and he STILL fucked everything up.
>>721501236>bring Crawfather, Pinstress and Tormented Trobbio to act 2None of these make sense from a lore perspective. You'd be better off adding additional fights or new enemies for Act 2 and moving their rewards earlier. Something like a Craw Bailiff could be interesting.
>>721501393His plan would have worked if he just neglected his son like a normal father.
>>721500050This was the hardest boss for me so far (took me probably around 10 tries or so) and I didn't even know that it existed until today because I've never seen anyone mention it before. What was I missing?
>>721501504Did he fuck everything up? The radiance was defeated.
One thing I never fully understood from HK, was the protagonist a failed experiment from the start that eventually became an empty vessel in emotion and thought during his travels back to Hallownest ? Or did the Pale King never bother to notice that he had made a second succesful vessel after he had already made the Hollow Knight ?
>>721501393His flaw was not breeding more higher being females multiple times his size, Imagine if he had bred granny silk, she could have helped contain the radiance, and also she wouldn't have gone insane for being childless. Hell, he should have fucked the radiance into submission too.
>>721501551I don't think his plan would've worked regardless now that we know the Vessels were never truly as hollow as he originally believed.
>>721501569Really? This guy was simple for me. I struggled way more with some other bosses.
>>721501393How does he mate?
>>721500418Play Bug Fables or Another Crab's Treasure instead.
>>721500050Reminder this game is nothing but a gay tranny allegory>Robot "gendering" themselves>A "male" robot named Pascal with a feminine voice>Robots before Adam boss fight pretending to be other genders while simulating sex>Adam and Eve have a homoerotic incest undertones>9S ripping off 2B's arm and attaching on to himself is a genital mutilation metaphor which made him go fully insane after A2 tried to reason with him>A literal suicide button>Director's obsessed with ass fetishes and people with ass fetishes are tend to be homosexuals>Homosexuals known to be attracted to younger boys (i.e 9S)
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>>721501236forgot one: Gurr the Outcast>>721501517>None of these make sense from a lore perspectiveif you just change the text in their quest sign then they do.
>>721501569You probably kept jumping into him when he spit his drill.
>>721501689Reminder that your benis has never entered a bagina
>>721501569ptsd
>>721501682Magic peepee. Works in ANY hole
>>721501731>"Why is there platforming in my platformer game?"
>>721501393For some reason people seem to think he messed up. Really he was just playing the long game. Never underestimate the ability to see the future.
>>721500425Absolutel cinema incoming
>>721501689I read this thinking it was about Silksong and was desperately trying to figure out how I missed all this lore lmao
>>721501393Why did he ignore Hornet? He could've just poured any pent up parental affection to her instead of the vessel.
>>721501504>Radiance defeated>entire primordial force of the Void bound under the will of his kind son>daughter likely is the last WeaverTrvst the plan
>>721501685>Tries finding a good Bug Fables/Hollow knight crossover fic>None of the authors try darkening Bug fables's setting to match HK's, they always do the opposite.
>>721501596Everyone in his kingdom is fucking dead. Hollownest is fucking dead. The Pale Retard and all but one of his knights are dead. All allies to Hollownest have either fled or completely sealed up their own homes. He completely, utterly, catastrophically failed on every single level.
>>721501643The Knight isn't empty, either. None of them were. But yes, the Pale King just took the first "successful" vessel and then sealed away the rest because he didn't think he needed them and void icky.
Would you consider it cheating to use a checklist to make sure you get everything? Im missing a handful of things still but i have no clue where to even start looking. Feels like ive been everywhere.
>>721501862Find any good fics? Either HK or BF
>>721501881But the radiance was defeated. Who knows how bad that could’ve gotten.
>>721501596After his entire kingdom got Raccoon Citied.
>>721500425>ASCENDANCE TROBBIO
>>721501414The outsider option
>>721501850post full
>>721501948The only reason he sealed the Radiance was to give the bugs of Hollownest free will, kind of pointless if they're all dead anyway.
>>721501948The Pale King's goal was to create the perfect kingdom. He failed.
>>721501939I think a checklist of, you missed x would be cheating.But a list of you obtained this much already so you can cross check what your missing would be cool, especially if it worked on the map.So much stuff I was missing was from places I saw on the map but must have never realized I didn't explore properly.
>>721500050Cute
>>721500878>crawfather
>>721500608It did show up for the DLC endings in Hollow Knight, it might appear again when they add a similar Boss Rush to Silksong with endings depending on if you have the flower or not when you beat the final gauntlet.
>>721501708>Gurr the OutcastThis one would actually work in Act 2 without having to change anything.>if you just change the text in their quest sign then they do.Not really. Pinstress loses a lot of meaning to her fight if you change it from a final fight before the world ends to just training, Crawfather loses a lot of meaning if you change it from him putting you on trial for the ruination of the world to just "murdering craws bad", and Trobbio doesn't make ANY sense if you have him go edgy before Act 3 tears the world apart.
>>721501393The plan unironically didn't work because he was too good of a father
>>721501939I only started using a guide at the end of the game, before the last dive, to get to 100%.
>check out the super secret part of the Hunter's March/Far Fields after boss in the region in act 3>it ends in a sprint minigameI don't like using the word filler because it sounds meaner than I'd like but this region definitely feels like it.
>>721502008>>721502010What I’m saying is the “no cost too great” could also refer to his own kingdom, as we have no idea how truly bad the radiance problem could’ve gotten. He may have saved the world.
>>721501993hope he's into smalldom
>>721501689Botsama, I think you're borked
>Read many anons beat Coral Tower first try>Took me two hoursI hate those fucking knife throwing flyers so much. Why does every single flying enemy in the game rubber band away from you so much?
>>721501993Fuck outta here slave. Go make more silkeaters.
>>721502175No, you just didn't realize he wasn't talking about Hollow Knight.
>>721501551He's the Pale King, not the Melanated King
>>721502105Sprint dude should’ve been accessible act 1 and he should’ve had a new route for every movement ability unlock.
I'm assuming i'm not crazy that there's a path up here. Why can't you reach it even with double jump and cling claw?
>>721502154Has the Radience ever been in the physical realm? Or has she always been stuck in the dream world?
I can't believe we still don't know what the fuck happened to the Pale King.We will likely never know.
>>721501939I feel no guilt using a guide because there is so much shit with zero clues. It's kind of ridiculous that Act 3 itself has zero hints in game on how to unlock.
>>721502278act 3
>>721502278You get another power later on
>>721501643In HK, the entrance of the abyss has a sign that says something like "beyond this door there is only regret. It will never open again"Now if the ghost did actually see the hollow knight walk out with the king, then how did the ghost get out not only from the abyss, but from Hallownest? I don't know. My guess is that, just like Silksong shows that the abyss is just a deep place and not precisely below Hallownest, maybe the ghost found an exit in a really far away place. So far that took him the same time to return it took for Hallownest to fall to the infection. Then the game startsIt's either this or I'm a retard. Sorry
>>721501947Havent tried looking too much into HK fics cause a lot of writers choose to just write a stupid family dynamic between Hornet and her half siblings. And now that Silksong gave me a new view on her character I cant stand seeing her being written like a basic angry bitch in some of the old fics. Figured its better to wait for newer stuff to be written after these writers play the new game.
>>721501569He just fast. He's probably the first zero downtime boss people will run into. And it's trickly to learn exactly where you need to stand to deal with his projectiles.
>>721502278Cause you need a different upgrade.
>>721500608>however, I suspect the Lord of Shades form was just for funsies for the people who were able to get that endingYeah, it was just foreshadowing for the flower in Silksong and a nice little bonus.
I have found a total of five (5) mask shards in 20 hours of gameplay. Am I retarded or are these hidden insanely well? One of them I bought.
>>721502251Most of that is hallucinatory nonsense even in the context of automata.
>>721501939I think it's reasonable to look things up after you reach 90% completion in the game. After that, the rest of the percentages become finding hidden walls, a few of which are fucking insanely well hidden, to the point where they do not look breakable at all. You can do it all on your own, but you would end up having to scour every inch of the map all over again from the start, which is simply a waste of time. Looking things up if youre stuck, tho, or before you are anywhere close to the end of the game, is just silly
>>721502284As far as we know, only in the dream. We don’t exactly know the method the hollow knight used to seal the residence inside himself, but it’s likely that he used the same method the mc uses in the basic ending of the first game.
I want to fight the Pale King.
>>721502327Probably a good call. I've never delved into HK fics, but I could totally see writers falling into the trap of turning Hornet into some no nonsense cunt instead of an actual character.
>>721502341>>721502301>>721502313thanks anons
>>721501993Is he a male spider? That would explain him being such a simp.
>>721502351There's way more of them later in the game. I don't know why they're so stingy with them early.
>>721502215Practice your clawline into pogo combo, and go weapons free with tools since they don't cost shards in the dream
>>721502278>he didn't get the brapping third jump
>>721502391Why, he’s a hero.
>>721501643>>721502315Multiple other vessels found a way out of the Abyss. It's implied Ghost's escape route took him outside the kingdom temporarily and gave him the same kind of amnesia as Quirrell.
>>721502286we may still find out if he just shed his bug form and fucked off once he decided that Hallownest was done for instead of actually dying
>>721502315The Knight isn't even the only vessel to get out. There's broken vessel, the one you get mothwing cloak from, and some corpses here and there. One way or another, they were sneaking out.
I've listened to the OST like 4 times now. I just can't fall in love with it like I did with Hollow Knight's.
>>721502391If hollow knight wasn't about bugs, the Pale King would be some world of warcraft kinda dragon person.
>>721502315There is an implied escape route on the very bottom left of the abyss that leads to nothing, which would presumably be outside the kingdom where the knight got his cute cape and nail before returning through howling cliffs
Was using a Simple Key on freeing the Green Prince a bad idea?
>>721500637Pale King foresaw the lifeblood issue and used the Radiance to train the Pure Vessel to fulfill his true purpose far in the future.
is Mount Fay a joke? instead of unique enemies, ice mechanics, fights and boss in the end its one long sadistic platforming sequence with no save points? thank God I'm on PC
>>721500186Just don't let the enemies that hit for two masks of damage knock you into stage hazards that also hit for two masks of damage, bro :)
>>721502540>The soundtrack is unmemorabl-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq8wGcWeXwg>>721502583>no checkpointsThere are two additional benches. They're just hidden behind fake walls.
>>721502583>no save pointsOof
>>721502631I didn't say that the OST doesn't have great tracks (Cogwork Core, Choral Chambers, Red Memory). But a lot of it feels kinda... aimless? Phoned in? I dunno, the original OST feels so much more focused.
>>721502583How the fuck did you get past the White Palace if Mount Fay is filtering you?
>>721502572You get as many keys as there are locks.
>>721502631Stop pushing cogwork as good example.
>>721500050Are these godawful tortuous delivery quests mandatory for 100% completion or any other achievements?
>>721502583Anon...
>>721501504>
>The Snail Shadow Government
>>721502286Sad that Hornet's daddy issues are preventing all of us from learning more about him. Seeing the mushroomfuck call her 'Wyrm child' just reminded me how cool a character he is
>>721502716Which one are you doing?
>>721501731>just click jump 20 timeswhy would this give you ptsd?
>>721502583Ok but how do you even miss the first bench lmao
>>721502468>Have to fight his giant Wyrm form>When you kill him his body crashes to the ground and becomes the stage for phase 2>Then he molts into his iconic form, bursts out from his corpse and fights you on top of itI just think it would be cool as hell.
I find it hard to believe that Hornet ever went through with taking a mate because she would have mentioned if she was a mother at some point. And we know she's fertile since 1/8th weavers exist.
>>721502734LEGALIZE LIFEBLOOD BOMBS
>>721502419I think he's the same species as the Huntress, whatever they are. The Huntress has wings and Styx appears to as well, so probably not a spider. He might just be old enough to have grown Silkeaters for the Weavers when they were in Pharloom and has been bereft of purpose since they left. He stayed loyal, and his loyalty has been rewarded by the appearance of a new Weaver to serve.>>721502162That seems to be his whole deal
>>721502687Did you think Verdania or High Halls had more focus ?
>>721502740To Fleatopia.
Sands of Karak and Mount Fay are great areas. The game should've had more platforming gauntlets instead of sadistic boss fights.
>>721502729Yes, the Radiance completely and utterly BTFO'd the Pale King and his so called """Eternal""" Kingdom despite the fact that he has the power of foresight. What's your point?
Lil Ghost is protecting her till she returns for the DLC
>>721502734
>>721502781Alright, maybe focus isn't the right word. My point is I can only really remember a handful of tracks. Meanwhile you could name just about any track from Hollow Knight and I would immediately hear it in my head.
>>721502870bro has the drill build
>>721502859She kinda got disintegrated when helping you.
>>721502785Yes, that one is required to unlock Act 3.
>>721502870what's with all the drills
>>721502771Maybe platonic or lesbian relationships.
>>721502859She literally used up the last of her silk to save Lace. She's fucking dead, bro.
>>721501504Comw to think of it, does the Pale Retard even know of the Radiance's existence? Or does he think it's some mysterious infection? If he knew about her surely he would've tried diplomacy?
>>721502771>picwhy is Hornet so hot?>would have mentioned if she was a mother at some pointIt's hard for weavers to have children. That's it. You'll either need lots of attempts or some divine bullshit like Herrah did.
>>721502943Anon, of course he knew. What part of foresight don’t you get.
Where do I find the second key for the White Ward? I already unlocked it but there's another lock in there
>>721502540(You) problemI like SS better than HKThey're both extremely good objectively speaking, however, and there is no need for comparison because theyre so close in quality that it just comes down to personal prefrenceIt's like comparing Kumiko and Mayu at the end of Hibike! Euphonium s3. They're virtually identical to the point that their retarded instructor just caused problems for everyone by not making the executive decision to keep Kumiko as the duet player. The aura buff the entire band would have gotten from their beloved president playing the soli with the band's Ace trumpetteer, who is also her best friend, would have vastly outweighed the potential 1% increase in quality of playing that Mayu may have provided. I understand their entire thing was to be pure meritocracy, but when two are virtually identical, you need to take a look at the greater context and see what other benefits they will provide. It should have never come down to a vote between them because the soli should have been hardlocked to Kumiko from the start
>>721502886So the problem is more of lack of identity ? Cause I get that part. A lot of the tracks dont feel like they were specific for section they played in.
>>721502943He'd have to be willfully blind to not realize the moth tribe he encroached on already worshipped another god. There's literally a statue of the Radiance at the top of Hallownest.
>>721502079>the world is ending, let's fightthat's such a deep lore, bro, the encounters lose all meaning without that piece of text telling you that (it was definetly not a decision they made just to push more content to Act III)
>>721502859no, lil ghost is helping her finally realize her wish and have children. They're void tentacles though.
>>721502987It’s in a bullshit hidden room in the Whiteward. If you need an extra hint use the act 3 movement ability
>>721502687>buzzwordsYou dont know why you don't like itThe truth is that you have less magic in you now than you did when HK came out
>>721502987It's in the zone.But it's not close by the lock.
>>721502923Those wouldn't even count as mates
>>721502771Her lines read more like her seeking to bond with someone, but giving up once she realized that she was going to outlive anyone she ever grew close to. Besides, Hornet's poor experience with her family would likely hurt her opinion on having kids.
>>721503020YES, thank you. That's exactly it now that you mention it.
>>721502905>>721502936Her and radiance are both alive, they will be redeemed in hollow knight 3.
>>721502920For clarity's sake, this is the Pill and Tipp delivery quest, not anything about getting the fleas to the lake, or collecting them all.
>>721502859I don't think he was there for anything except to fuck up another higher beingthen Hornet showed up and the plans changed
>>721502828>"Yes, the Radiance completely and utterly BTFO'd the Pale K-AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGH!!!"
>>721502771The expectation is there, but coupling up with a mate does not necessarily mean that copulation will occur. Hornet doesn't seem the hedonistic type, perhaps what she seeks more than offspring is simply companionship and she just has a very stilted and autistic way of describing romantic partners.
>>721503047>They're void tentacles though.*Silkworms
What is the grumpy guy underneath Bellhart's deal? I'm assuming he's Act 3?
>>721503069Post Silksong's equivalent:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDn70jh1V0
>>721502736I think any future content involving Hornet, either DLC or a third game, will be about her Wyrm half and coming to terms with it. Specifically because mushroomman refers to her as wyrm and says they will probably meet again
Why didn't the Pale King just throw cogflies at the Radiance?Was he stupid?
>>721503118>anons still don’t know that this was part of the keikaku
>>721503080It would if "mate" was used to signify a partner you spend your whole life with, which makes sense given the context.
>>721503145https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTicXQYw2ts
>>721503047>void correction
>>721503034>the world is ending, let's fightThose are some of the most kino moments. Even more if it's "we just saved the world, now there is no reason not to fight". Endwalker was so fucking chuuni, I loved it.
>>721503158That’s a waste of good cogflies for his jumping puzzles.
>>721502943The Radiance problem didn't come out of nowhere. The region worshipped the Radiance until the King showed up and declared total moth genocide.
>>721503209I love this track. I do. But it just doesn't hit like City of Tears does.
>>721503056It's accessible in act 2 tho
>>721503154I think the dlc for this game will be a lace campaign. If hollow knight 3 is about the hollow knight, I can see the pale king being important.
>>721502921spiral power vs spiral power
>>721503080There is more to mating than sex, even amongst animals.
>>721502859Final DLC will 100% have you fight with the ghost and his shade lord as phase 2 as an alternative way to lace and granny as a bonus
>>721502771>she would have mentioned if she was a mother at some pointSounds like she's tried and failed due to the Weavers' reproductive difficulties. All the other Weaver descendants captured by the Citadel had less Weaver blood but were still described as the last of their lines, so diluting blood may not fix those difficulties. In which case it might be a genuine curse rather than something genetic
>>721503158materials used for cogflies would be better served as sawblades
How do I enter Blasted Steps? I cleared every map in act 1
>>721502901>>721502921I just think they're neat.
>>721503301The hollow knight is dead, the next game will be about the city of steel and Hornet and Lace will likely be the protagonists, Mr. mushroom says they will meet again.
>>721500050>>721500608Team Cherry obviously intended for both to be equally possible endings. Therefor continuing their "nothing is canon, everything is equally canon" shit.Unless you're a sealed sibling/the hollow knight ending fag then fuck you lmao
>>721503034So I've been baited. Cool.
>>721503237>TFW you learn that the vocals in City of Tears are diageticAbsolute ludo. Silksong lacks the ambiance, atmosphere, attention to detail, and soul that Hollow Knight had. Hollow Knight had so many little moments where the game just let you breathe and take in the world around you which really added to the experience. Silksong has no such things and is always moving at breakneck speed.Nothing comes close to webm related in Silksong.
is green prince in greymoor in act 3? I wanna do his memory now
>>721503402>the hollow knight is deadNope
>>721503145This is my point thoughYou're asking for something that is "equivalent" instead of taking it for what it is. The city of tears and the citadel are not the same, thus expecting the same feeling to come across is pointless. The music was trying to do something different and it accomplished that. In CoT, it was this sense of wonder at a fallen but still beautiful metropolis. In the citadel, it was a haunting sense of oppression. The city of tears did not inherently make the world around it a worse place while the citadel did
>>721503402>The hollow knight is deadhead canon
>>721502943The entire plan to seal the radiance holds on the fact that they know what are they trying to seal to begin with
>>721502771Naked bug erotic…
>>721503428I agree with you, but I still prefer Silksong because it's way more fun.
>>721502987The well hidden entrance is near the area where Sherma is at for his quest.
What's Lace saying to the trapped spider ? Give the editor at /trash/ some ideas for a condescending dialogue.
>>721503370just go left of the shellwood bellway
>>721503490It was just some moth bitch lolJust get a big zap lamp lmao
>>721502780he only has a huntress-like mask because he stole it, there's a secret room with a bunch of them above him you can to get to with silk soar
>>721503154There's no fucking way there's a third hollow knight game in the works. I know the mushroom is seemingly alluding to this but I can't believe it
>>721503235>The region worshipped the Radiance until the King showed up and declared total moth genocide.That isn't what happened at all. The Pale King showed up, the moths ABANDONED the Radiance to follow him instead, and that pissed the big moth off so much that she made it her personal quest to ruin his kingdom and bring everyone back under her sway by force.
>>721501504>>721501393>>721501596>>721501948>>721501948>>721501881PK planned all of this btw.He especially planned Ghost impregnating the Radiance, Godseeker, and Grandma Silk
>>721503551Team Cherry found their winning formula. Why would they diverge from it?
>>721503551Team Cherry liked making this game. May as well make hollow knight 3 for a 2035 release date.
>>721503081>but giving up once she realized that she was going to outlive anyone she ever grew close toWho would "some of her mates" be?
>>721503363Her being its victim could refer to her wishing she had siblings to grow up with.
>>721503551Nothing can stop him.
>>721503505Silksong is the better game, but I think I'll look back on Hollow Knight more fondly in a few years.
>>721502771She's saving herself for me
>>721503605I remember reading somewhere that they wanted to work on something different after hollow knight. Also didnt someone on /v/ mention that they already trademarked the name for a future game of theirs ?
>Keep dying to Karmelita touching my hurtbox from her spastic movementsI feel like contact damage feels way more obnoxious in Silksong compared to HK where it was already one of the worst elements in its combat.
People forget that the whole reason why the infection happened was because Moth lady was pissed off at the Pale King for basically invading her land and taking over the citizens. If he never tried to build Hallownest on top of civilizations that already existed, the infection would never happen. Moths continue worshipping their moth mommy, no infection happens, bugs stay alive.
>>721503551They earned enough money for the rest of their lives, and had fun doing it. If they still have fun, why wouldn't they?
>>721500050When will Hollow Knight 3 be revealed?
>>721503450>>721503460Do you really think they'll make the boss rush ending canon? Besides, there's no way we're going back to a mute protagonist, his size would also cause too much trouble.
>>721503773The hardest ending is always the canon one.
>>721503748I was 20 when I played Hollow Knight and 29 when I played Silksong.
>>721503551They have fun making the games and love the world they've createdWhy wouldn't they?They're set for life on money and are doing it now purely out of the love for the creative process and the game itselfTheyre like concerned ape in that regardHe doesn't need to keep updating SDV or make HC, but he will because he likes making games
>>721503714I don’t doubt that they will work on another game, but I also think they’ll return afterwards.
>>721502828>>721503118>Radiance, get the FUCK off that shellputer and come make dinner bitch.>Y-yes dear.
>>721503748Next game is about foxes
>>721503519>"Lol nigger"
>>721503773Why add a new ending that explicitly leaves the guy the game is named after alive if you don’t have plans to use that character?
>>721503862>shade lord gets to fuck a giant moth mommy, a giant silk mommy, AND a giant godseeker mommyEnvy...
>>721503773>there's no way we're going back to a mute protagonistYou'll be able to choose between Hornet, Lace and HK. Hornet and Lace have normal dialogues if they're chosen for cutscenes, HK will only respond with "..." and everyone else will act as if he answered normally.
>>721503004nta. While I agree that the production quality of SS is superior to HK, it's use is what falls flat imo. HK had 2 Leitmotif (sealed vessel and hornet's theme) that are used for the really plot relevant and emotional parts. Each theme, for either place or character, had the actual subject in mind when producing it. Dung defender sounds heroic and playful just like the character, mantis lords sounds like a challenge/test as it should, nosk sounds like some predator, city of tears is city of tears, etcSD has some good themes, but that's all they are, good themes. They don't necessarily represent what they are showing. Some do, yeah, but not with the consistency HK does.
>>721503894Plans change
>>721503825I know you can save Pilby from the skull tyrant by not doing the quest or sitting at the bone bottom bench until act 2, but what happens to him after? In act 3 the pilgrims rest place gets destoryed. Does he make it safely to songclave?
>>721503930I think Lace and Hornet will just be a combo boss in the next game and have story relevance.
>>721503825>no one knows what happens to him in act 3>that building can get attacked tooHas anyone seen if the Rhino can kill him? It could be that the only conclusions for him are death.
>>721503958I fucking love this
>>721503971Yeah, the original plan was to have the hollow knight join the void. The changed plan was to have him live. Glad you came around.
>>721503974How is a little fry like Pilby going to make it to the Songclave canonically speaking?
>>721503958TROBBBBIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>721503958this is perfect
>>721504090Very, very carefully.
>>721503974Seems like something they may consider patching in.
>>721504090With faith
>>721504090same way Sherma did
>>721504090The same way somebody like Sherma can.
>>721503773Is the Hollow Knight mute on a physiological level, or was "No voice to speak" simply not teaching the vessels how to speak? We know "no mind to think" ended up failing and that it can roar, so surely it could've learned to speak now that it no longer has to repress its individuality
>>721503963That makes me wonder how intentional Silksong is with its music.The Knight has little to no personality so the music in a fight represents the abundance of personality his enemy has.While Hornet’s personality is very much there so the music represents a conflict of her and the enemy.Not that this is meant to sway opinions, but just maybe the logic to what TC is going for.
>>721503958So Trobbio is the Dung Defender of this game, yeah?
>>721504090>Fari doula zimanet>Doni pwana vorinet>Fina sami maniset>Dana fosyu lobun
>>721504187The vessels are completely mute. In pantheon the pure vessel makes no noise when he does his big scream.
>>721503773>there's no way we're going back to a mute protagonistHe starts mute, and learns to speak during the game, creating his own individuality along the way.
>>721503963>Each theme, for either place or character, had the actual subject in mind when producing.>Dung defender sounds heroic and playful just like the character, mantis lords sounds like a challenge/test as it should, nosk sounds like some predator, city of tears is city of tears, etcAnd so does Silksong, I don't know what the fuck you are smoking if you think it doesn't apply.And I say this as someone who 100% agrees that HK had better "vibes" and better music, your argument simply makes no sense.
Surface skrills dont care about no pale beingSurface skrills dont need no maskSurface skrills scuttlin' around unbotheredSilk? Soul? Surface skrill simply lives
>>721504090he's a flying bug, it's real easy to skip blasted steps hazards
>>721500128I'm still surprised to hear that people complained about this boss. I only had trouble with it because I was going for Witch-Trobbio Bind-splosions and you legitimately could not see the screen at all.
>>721503735Because of burn out? I personally have no trouble working on the same world for decades but they did say they had wanted to branch out after silksong. But that was said a long long time ago
Is the verdania area hard because its technically a bonus memory?
>>721504345The way bugs were meant to be until pale beings fucked everything up.
People will reply to it because people are dumb
>>721504419Verdania is not hard
>>721504090He just casually strolling the empty path that Hornet cleared when she's delivering the meat.
>>721503551>>721503669>HK3>another age passes>Sherma's Christ-like nature and role as a spiritual leader among the Citadel remnants inspires a new religion>New Pharloom, under the unifying power of Shermaism, goes on to become an international power>Shermaist missionaries are sent to neighboring kingdoms to spread His radical message of love and peace, threatening the tyrannical rule of Higher beings>Hornet earns a place in Shermaist scripture as a Samson-esque holy warrior>Hornet enters the dream realm and discovers Sherma has ascended to Higher Being status by the collective will of bugs everywhere
>>721504351Couldn't he have just flown over the Skull Tyrant? Surely it's loud enough to give a decent heads up.
>>721504480you'd think
>>721504447If he didn't make the second post, he probably would have gotten (you)s, but kinda exposed himself too quickly.
Just beat the ant queen with my trusty toxic spikes and toxic cogfly, just as team cherry intended
Dogshit flash game. Will always be and always will be. Failure of a generation. Niggers and brownies
what if you don't open the door for sherma
>Pharloom is a failing city>Grimm nowhere to be seenTotal fraud
What's the best variant of the silkshot? I got the architect one in my first playthrough, but I heard there's multiple different variants of it.
>>721504263That's the difference that made me think it's taught, rather than physically inherent. I figured he doesn't roar as the Pure Vessel because it's him as he was in the old days, trained to be empty by the King, whereas as the Hollow Knight, he roars because he knows he's failed to be hollow, wants to let out his rage, and no longer cares to stay voiceless
>>721504597She teleports forward anyways.
I really hope that all this interest in Silksong really pushes ahead the modding scene, particularly for multiplayer. I mean, it's a Unity game after all, seems like people can add full multiplayer to any of those, and it really busted a nut in my grits that Hollow Knight's multiplayer (at least to my knowledge) only ever achieved the usual of PvP and Progression Sync. Everyone knows it's Enemy and Boss Sync that actually matters.
>>721504597Judge let's him in. Yes. He is there to judge, and if you're faithful enough, you get in.
>>721504597Faith finds a way.
>>721504615I’m almost certain the standard hollow knight roar is just the radiance screaming through him.
>>721504597The Last Judge opens it for him and gives him candy for being completely without sin
>>721504606Grimm troupe DLC where we fight the future Grimmchild, trust the plan.
>>721504597Which door? At the start? It will open for him because of the music
KAI, LAI-LAI-LAI-LAIOOSHKA-LOOOW, LAHKAI, LAI-LAI-LAI-LAIOOOSHKAAH, MYESHKA LAI-AHKAI, LAI-LAI-LAI-LAIMYESHKA RO, MYESHKA ROO-OH
>>721504623This game will definitely have a huge modding scene since hollow knights modding scene was also doing a ton of work.
>>721504606The fellows in the wisp thicket tried summoning him. But he got to bilewater and turned around.
>>721504615The roar you're hearing is the Radiance.
What would Lace do in this situation
>>721504757Cum
>>721504284I did not say SS did not do it. The cog core works fine and so does the boss to unlock that place. I'm saying that HK did it way more consistentlyYou also seem to have missed the very important leitmotif part of the argument. That theme in HK carries the whole tragedy that is the story and we hear it a lot during the game.Maybe SS suffered from having sok much sidecontent that each plot relevant part is too far apart to appreciate the music moreIn any case. I am not alone in this thought. People definetly notice that there is something in HK that is missing in SS. I'm no music expert to tell you exactly what, but I'd say the criticism has shown itself enough times. A more serious analysis would be worth to see what's going on
>>7215047571 contact damage
>>721503209This track really reminds me of Chroma Zero.Specifically the part that starts at 1:45 in Choral.https://youtu.be/kQByEwaBGU0
>throw in constant gank fests everywhere >give bosses a shit ton of hp >make the magic pretty ass>make the red tools really really good, to the point where there's only a couple bad ones in the entire game>create a crest whose entire purpose is to spam red tools and can even refresh them for more>people think you're not meant to be spamming tools on bosses and if you do you're cheating Uh huh
>>721504394you good lil bro?
Why is Lace lost? Just get a map
>>721504757Hornet's head here looks like one of those duck/bunny trick pictures
>>721503734Non-moth bugs wouldn't have been living in any way that was worth it though, since the Radiance was a control freak and had them all as puppets/slaves.
>>721504757Get raped by Hornet's parasite tentacles
>>721504830Me on the right
>>721504830you killed the hobby. you are also incredibly brown, ugly and bald. So yeah im calm
>>721503958hornet would join them
>>721504829on top of that the steel soul exclusive stuff is for even more tool spam
>>721503909Godseeker is ugly though.
>>721504887I thought the moths were the only ones that were slaves to the Radiance? Didn't all the other bugs just have no will or high thought or whatever? Isn't that what the Pale King gave those bugs?
I am not having fun in Sinner's Road :(
>>721504880Map was in the room above, and she didn't have silk soar. RIP
>>721504962it's a pretty annoying area and gay water sucks
>>721504938Nah, you just haven't seen her drawn the right way
>>721504962Neither are any of the ghetto roaches there.
>>721504962Well, buckle up because the area after that is even worse
How are you supposed to normally get the spikes? I just found them randomly sitting in a house in act 3.
Why is Widow helping GMS?
>>721505094Mindbroken
>>721505074The bugs who were in that house ask for you to get them roach meat and give the tacks as a reward. They get killed by rocks in Act 3, so I guess it just falls out of their pockets
>>721504904even doe im unbothered and aryan (with a full head of hair)
>>721505235>aryanHAHAHAHHAHAH LOOOOOOOOOOOLThat's why you enjoy a flashtier game browsing a site with a bunch of niggers and browns? lmao epic.
>>721504954They had no higher will or thought, yes, that's what I'm saying. Only moths were people.
>>721505008>Posting her mummy dream form and not her true fatass form
>>721505050While bilewater is more overtly miserable, I think sinner's road is mechanically more unforgiving. Bilewater is full of weak, respawning enemies to farm silk on to heal or get rid of maggots. And the platforming is pretty easy and forgiving with the cost of failure usually just being a dip in maggot water.Sinner's road enemies are both more annoying and don't respawn. And they hired the pale king as their decorator on top of still needing to avoid maggot water.
>>721505121>Maskbroken
>>721505121Do you ever learn what she did to get punished by mindbreak? Was she like the First Sinner but not as badass?
Now he's samefagging...
most dogshit nigger boss award
>>721505407Say hello to my poison tack spam.
>>721505407It deeply annoys me that one of the coolest areas in the game has the worst boss.
>>721505407He teaches you that using tools is moral and ethical
Does Bellhart ever feel like an actual town like Dirtmouth or no?
>>721503825He outside of the building for me
>>721505407I didn't feel like using tacks since I felt like they didn't fit Hornet's vibe, but this boss is basically begging to get tacks spammed at him.
>>721505479I mean you get a house to decorate with one bed that you share with Lace
>>721505537Oh yeah where does she even sleep? Isn't she essentially homeless
>>721505479Bellhart is supposed to be more like a truckstop than a town.
>>721503773We should go back to a mute protagonist because the dialogue in Silksong is overdone and not particularly good IMO. That said, if they really were to do another HK game, I hope we don't play as an existing character.
>>721505479I think it feels like more of one. But then Dirtmouth never felt like much of a town to me. It felt like more of a bus stop.
>>721505591She sleeps on the coat hanger.
>>721505591normally? In the flower bed up top. Now? With Hornet, since someone needs to keep stitching her with more silk.
>>721505591In the Hermit's jug.
>>721505610>We should go back to a mute protagonist because the dialogue in Silksong is overdone and not particularly good IMO.Hard fucking disagree with this.
>>721505601It's the Buc-ee's of Pharloom.
>>721505601>Bellhart is supposed to be more like a truckstop than a town>>721505632>Dirtmouth never felt like much of a town to me. It felt like more of a bus stop.kek
Next time i want to play as a bug related to a non pale higher being
What's the deal with this guy and is he related to the samely named character in HK?
>>721500050Delicate flower is the canon ending and if you disagree you're a faggot scrub who couldn't beat the pantheon of Hallownest
>>721500825There's a lot that goes into it, like what the Void is actually made of, how the Void acts naturally when in a natural state, given shape, or put into a shell, and then the unique nature of the Vessels in both their purpose and possessing a Pale, natural shell, but to put it shortly: The Knight only is able to unite the Void afterA) He's become a Void creature in a Pale shell with exceptional Will (and one of his own), as tested by HornetB) He's bestowed and wielding a powerful Charm directly linked to two Pale beings C) He's made to remember that he's a Void creatureD) He's made to remember a scene of exceptional sadness and regretE) When you're dream-nailing the egg, you're technically also dream nailing the VoidAll of these things put together connects and synchronizes the Knight to the Void, while also giving him the power to substantiate his will in a way that reverberates through it.
>>721505806*punches your guts*
>dumped ALL my poison tacks and cogflys into him>still took an additional 20 needle hits at +3 literally the last boss I need to beat before act 3
>>721505661>gets to larp as diogenese>"what is a snail but an exoskeletonless bug">"Behold, a snail" *hold up ghost*
>>721505756No
>>721500557Red memory is weaker because the context is fucking stupid. Hornet knows about the delicate flower's ability to suppress void? And she knows a new one can be manifested with silk magic if she can visualize it well enough? And she knows the shamans have magic that would allow her to re-experience distant memories? None of this indicated or even foreshadowed, nor is it thematically relevant to any other part of the game. In fact, literally digging into her own past to find a solution to a current problem is antithetical to the greater narrative of act 3 in which Hornet rejects the obvious solution of just killing Silk and looks for alternatives to escape the fate of the divine crown which part of her wants to wear.By contrast, The Knight using the dreamwielder on himself to reconcile the tragedy of his origin and coming to understand that he is not actually a vessel made to contain evil, but a warrior spirit born to destroy it, is both a satisfying payoff to the story of his creation and a direct explanation of the change in strategy between the two base game endings.
>>721505806>who couldn't beat the pantheon of HallownestI couldn't, I'm really bad at boss rushes.
>>721500050I believe so, but I choose to view it as the knight can both exist in his voidchild form and also his physical form so hornet can return to him in HallownestI think there's also hints of Godmaster in there since he flashed that form before reverting to the dream no more form, unless we're assuming that bigger form was the pure vessels void body.
>>721505850however, now that you know this, all you have to do in the future is hit him ~20 times and then you win the fight by default :)
>>721504829Don't forget the 4 dream areas with 2 of the hardest bosses in the game reset your items without expending shards.The game is begging you to spam items lol
>>721505646>Putting Lace in the washing machine>Putting Lace in the dryer>Snuggling a warm and dizzy Lace
>>721505778You have to have a mask to be a person. Bugs born with a special sight can peer into the souls and natures of others. Those bugs have the potential to become mask makers, so that others may don masks.
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET THE CRAW SUMMONS?! Im in act 3, Ive returned from the abyss, Ive done the first crow gauntlet, I keep restarting at different benches but nothing
>>721500698The knight isn't dead in the Dream No More ending, he just cast away his shell for good. He does the same in Embrace the Void, he just also channels the cultivated divinity from the ritual combat to suck up a fuck ton of abyssal energy and become a god to surpass even the ascended beings.
>>721505921nta but, looking into her past lets her remember things that allow her to move onAlso, silk creating shit is kinda foreshadowed by Lace existing (made life out of silk).
>>721505907Unn is the only goddess i accept
>>721506013you should get it at bellhart, atleast that's where I got it
>>721505778Same profession.
does anyone have the architect crest meme at hand that shit cracks me up
Do we like Nuu?
>>721505989Can Hornet pilot Lace like a mecha?
>>721505778He's just chilling carving his masks slowly and enjoying the view of the mountains because he hasn't been asked to carve thousands of masks for dead void kids to the point of madness
>>721506142She was the first one I saw Hornet slap, and I liked that.
>>721506032I’m saying that the hollow knight (the title antagonist) is still alive in the dlc endings because you manage to kill the radiance for good in the godseeker’s dream.
>>721506185>one thousand abortion sized masks please>by tommorrow>the lady is about to birth another clutch
Just fought Trobbio. My favorite fight so far, he’s pretty easy (2nd try) but it was fun.
>>721505921Red memory was cool because the white lady was talking to the present day Hornet from the past.
>>721504781>I'm saying that HK did it way more consistentlyI know, and what I'm saying that argument is retarded, you can very clearly tell all the music in Silksong was also composed around a certain area or fight.>the Bonebottom song perfectly fits the weak pilgrims huddling together for safety in a shitty town>Lace's theme that perfectly conveys her haughty personality and sounds like two different string instruments clashing>the gloomy Greymoor song>the Bellhart theme full of chimes(and sync'd with Pavo's singing)>Widow's theme with the unhinged sounding strings>Sinner's road music perfectly conveys that the area is a shithole>the haunting Bilewater theme that defines the whole experience>the spooky sounding Mist theme with hints of the organ music that is haunting the area>the high energy organ song for the Phantom boss fight>the climatic Blasted Steps song that perfectly fits the last climb the pilgrims must overcome>the Choral Chambers music that only kicks in once you leave the indoors part of the Citadel>the cogwork/clover dancers songs>both Trobbio songs elevating the fight>the Mount Fay song perfectly fitting for a perilous climb up a frozen mountain>Skarrsinger singing mid-fight>the Sands of Karak song that perfectly conveys the "ancient ruins" feeling>Lost Verdania's atmospheric song fitting the mystical forest feel perfectly>the fittingly hype music during the abyss climb/the last diveAnd this is off the top of my head, you can say Silksong has worse music(it's true and I agree) but saying "the music doesn't represent what they are showing" is simply not true.And if you want to talk about unfitting music, HK has this piece of shit that plays like 6 different times across different locations, feels like music from a different game in all of them and it was so shit that they didn't even add it to the soundtrack.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BITaHFhldd0I don't think SS has a single song that feels as out of place as this one.
>>721501847The point of the failure of the hollow knight is that no vessel could actually be perfect because it is not possible to have a mind but no will. The hollow knight was perfect because his devotion and purpose were pure and unwavering, but these are still strings that can be pulled.
>>721506145What...? You mean like a ratatouille?
>>721505989taking good care of your Lace is essential, remember to iron her occasionally to keep those creases and shapes fresh
>they nerfed the giant buzzsaw blocks of death to only do 1 damageIs nothing sacred?!
>>721505842As some anons pointed out. The ghost is already the Shade Lord once he gets the void charmYou need to remember what the God seeker actually does:1. He tries to "attune" with the gods2. The gods are whatever they perceive as powerful in specific areas (each boss is named boss of X)3. Each God is thought as a perfected form, like the nail masters, sisters of battle, pure vessel and of course the absolute radiance.4. They need to do a ritual to attune with these bossesWhat you see in the godseeker ending is the ghost (shade lord) usurping the ritual and imposing itself as the ultimate god. Also he finishes the ritual while at it.The you can psysically see the body attune to this god, taking the shape of the void as tentacles come out from his bodyThe hollow knight gets to survive as a bonus too in that ending, but regarding the shade lord itself. The difference is if the shade lord will be either "normal" or be in a super perfected form as a consequence of the pantheon ritual thing
>>721501414This is the true ending after silksong
>>721506349Lava will always do 2 damage since magma bell is a thing
>>721506324More like, by wearing her
>>721506312Hollow Knight had such better NPCs.
>>721506440>inb4 they forget and bell makes you immune
game sucks
>>721502716No, I have 100% and only did the unique item deliveries and the one to bone bottom. There might be somerthing behind doing them all, but it doesn't affect completion percentage or act 3 access
>>721506490i love them but i also love my don quijote
>>721506440It's very funny that the second area's environmental hazard will be more damaging than all the later ones because of that
>>721506490Cloth walked so Garmond could ZANZAIBAAAAAAART run
>>721506490Strong BADABA BADABE vibes from this one
>>721506490Garmond > Cloth and it isn't even closeBut no Silksong character can even TOUCH Quirrel and Zote
>>721506145That'd be hilarious, but I'd doubt it. Maybe Lace could grow larger under the proper conditions like the Pure Vessel?
>>721506364Too bad that dumb flower kills you in the ending.
>>721506512yooo it's that bug that was fixed 2 weeks ago!
I don't like Lace, I think her head is stupid and she's annoying.
>>721506542Nothing in Silksong comes close to this level of kino.
>>721506512Reaper bros? Our response?
>>721504163>>721504167Sherma is so pure that bugs just ignore him. For example the guards in blasted steps do not even stir from their slumber as he passes by.
>>721506573everyone likes to compare sherma to myla but sherma was my silksong's quirrel
>>721506512lol. lmao
>>721506573SOVL
>>721506578I mean, she's literally made out of silk, like a stuffed bear. Just unravel her a bit in the middle, get in, stitch back together, use extra silk to expand her.
>>721506314Well yeah we all know that. But the pale couple clearly thought it was the fault of an idea instilled. They're just unreliable narrators. We know better because we actually seen otherwise.
>>721506648but nothing in Hollow Knight comes close to this level of heartbreak
>>721506573Fuck zote. annoying as hell. he's funny the the first time but subsequent playthroughs I just let him die.TLDR sherma>>>zote
>>721506262Now that I think about it it's a fun idea that Hallownest had the historical restoration group making sure to restore everything down to the smallest cobweb just for the fun of it, fanta or not, meanwhile Pharloom has slaver-I mean, penitents, to do that
>>721506740ZANZIIBOOOOO
>>721506740just don't do his quest so he's cured at the end of the game. are you stupid?
>>721506692It hit the water and should've died, but instead it just lost its hitbox. A cruel prank has been pulled once again in bilewater
>>721506573I like Quirrel. But I like Sherma even more. But it is true that Silksong doesn't have anyone as funny as Zote.
>>721506635She looks like her mom without the hat
Act 3 reached on steel soul mode18 hours
>>721506794by that logic cloth's quest is not compelling because it can end with her leaving unhappy.
>>721506794Do you not know what "Lost" means? He was already too consumed by the void at that point to be cured by stopping GMS.
>>721506810>anyone as funny as Zote.Nuu
>>721506661I don't like to compare or contrast them because I like them both and want Myla to live so they can form a singing duo together
>>721506814pretty cute look
>>721506763>he didn't follow the Fifty Seven PreceptsFILTERED
>>721506794>No one comes to help Zaza>Zaza tries to save Garmond himself>Zaza dies by the hands of his master>Whatever is left of Garmond at that point is powerless to do anything but watch
>>721505407Alright, anonsTC has put (You) in charge of giving the unraveled the traitor lord treatment. What changes?
>>721506142Depends on whether or not she is a slug that made a poor fashion choice with her backpack or a dirty filthy snail.
>>721506013>CRAAAWW CRAAAWWWW
>>721506013I got it at the Far Fields bench
>>721506989She's a silly little slug
>mfw just beat Karmelitta first try with the Witch's Crestholy fucking shit, Witch bros, you guys weren't joking.
>>721505407why did they give this thing a silk heart? like, first sinner would fit much better
>>721506075Me on the leftName my band Also, are there any other group pics of enemies like this
>>721506740mining girl???
>>721506960Increase his HP so he becomes obnoxious even after players empty their tool pouch on him.
>>721507027Where do I get Witch Crest?
Would Grand Mother Silk make a good grandma?
>>721506145>>721506324
>>721506364>The ghost is already the Shade Lord once he gets the void charmThat's what we're talking about, dingus. Getting the void charm and uniting it under a Will
>>721507043He's the surgeon conductor. He made the silkheart by himself. All the monstrosities around are his experiments. There's even an audio log.
>>721505407>just barelly tall enough that you can't just dash above from jump height>just barelly wide enough that you also need to roll a bit after jumpinghate this fucking nigger like you wouln't believe
>>721506815oh fuckI forgot to fight those two dudes down at the deep docks before going to act 3they're going to be voided now, aren't they
>>721506490Sherm clears
>>721507168which Will?
>>721507120She'd get jealous of you having real children and do something really fucking stupid because of it.
>>721507046>she took 4 masks worth of damage to make that, and Hornet now has to heal her.
>>721507173I understand why it technically fits, but then why are the other two Bell Beast and Lace? maybe Phantom could've been the other one
>>721507212Will is the Knight's name, dingus
Where can I get background art of the levels and environments?I can't screenshot, because that's too sloppy and Hornet herself is a light source, so stuff that's away from her will be too dark.
>>721507110upper rightmost corner of Whispering Vaults, there's a hidden passage (you'll see an open hatch), go there and follow these tunnels untill you find a noisy item. Then take this item to an NPC that is very similar to it.
>>721506814More like a hairstyle.
>>721507120No because she'd have to be able to be a mother first
>>721507179i had the same thing happen to me in my first full playthrough. they won't be voided, but the gauntlet that's down there is fucking impossible when they're all void. i think the adds will or will not be void, but rest assured the battle isn't too tough.
>>721507110Find the black baby by falling from the vaults into bilewatertake it to the shaman in shellwoodhead to the freaky doctor fly in greymoor to get fixed OR go beat GMS to get a new ending to act 2 assuming you can do it without healing or skills
>>721507248For platforming reasons they really wanted you to have at least one silk heart
>>721506814>>721507282not canon
>>721507179please update us on this.If they get voided and their adds also get voided, then this could be the hardest boss in the game.
>>721507248>Bell Beastno idea>Laceshe had one because GMS made it for her. We kinda ripped it out.
>>721507248Bell beast just had a shitload of silk trapping her
>>721507334tacs
>>721507292Honestly, the latter part of that is pretty easy to do, all things considered. She's so easy to beat with just the clawline and nothing else.
>>721506960Shrink him by ~10%. Rework the existing spears to be more like the patterned attacks of GMS, widow, the radiance, etc. Give him a couple of actual attacks, like hoisting a spear up and launching it at you and lashing at you with silk stuff like the zombies do. Reduce the amount of time he spends off screen when he dives down. Reduce his health by about 20%. Add a shortcut or something that lets you drop down without waiting on the elevator.
>finally get to the much awaited underwater area>it's just trial arenas>if you lose one you have to do them all over againThanks Team Cherry, very fun, very worth the seven year wait!
>>721507026Then I like her.
how do fuck do i trigger the Craw Summons, bros? I even went there and killed some craws but still nothing happen. Do i need to do the green faggot thing for this to trigger?
>>721507468>>if you lose one you have to do them all over again>retard didn't unlock the shortcut
>>721507248You cut the Bell Beast free of a shitton of silk trapping her there. Personally I would've just added a fourth Silk heart after you beat Widow.
I'm stuck at the 2nd phase of Lost Lace's 3rd phase.
>>721507212>>721507273When Will was a baby, I was scared of babies
>>721507468It looked so pretty and I couldn't wait to explore itI thought it was going to be loke VerdaniaBut noJust a tower with a lot of minion gauntletsFelt like I was playing a Kirby game
>>721507441>Add a shortcut or something that lets you drop down without waiting on the elevator.When you spawn at the top bench, step on the elevator button and immediately drop down into the sideways passage in the shaft. The elevator will pass you by quickly, letting you drop down to the correct floor. Step on the bottom elevator plate to bring it back down for the next respawn.
>>721507394I've only seen one person talk about doing it and they said it took them a long time. I personally can't be bothered, so I can't comment on it
>>721500939>Got the 3 melodies.>Who the fuck is widow?Fuuuuuuuuck...I thought I was slick exploring everything possible thus far.
>>721507531this. Just start with one from the beginning, and have the first one be from widow.This way it seems like the bell beast ate a weaver and is capable of farting out silk.
>>721507546... Holy fuck I never thought to go left on that platform after the first armored guy I always went right and had to fight the fly and the other armored guy
I still don't get how you have all these alien like higher beings, and then there's just the pale king and white lady who seem to be a part of a species and can reproduce and shit and have reasonable feelings
>>721507508Go rest at Bellhart.
Silksong 64https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q_ZE0Uqn28
>>721507594>Got the 3 melodies.>Who the fuck is widow?it's impossible to get the 3 melodies without beating Widow since she's the one that drops the Needolin. You must simply have forgotten her name.
>>721501119Maybe he mentally pulverises it and uses its inherent Being to build his personality?And his love for his father, which made him weak to the Radiance is what allows him to overwhelm the id of the plasmium and be truly his own being?I just want Sufferman to get the Suffer No More ending.
>>721507508I had it by being in act 3, resting in far fields, quitting and the reloading my game.I assume it's tied to you being in proximity to greymoor and loading into your save, similar to the scene in haunted bellhart where you get hung up by widow
>>721507546...this is the "90 second runback" I keep hearing people bitch about?
>>721507508rest in the bellhart benchrest in your home's benchrun right until you reach greymoorrun back to bellhart
Man I can’t way to get the clawline! Best Trobbio without it.
>>721500050fuck the high hall combat arena to all hell. whatever's behind that door better be important>look it up>literally on the last 2 enemies>died to a panic dodgescrew this, i'm going to hang out with my boi
>>721501393Not enough buzzsaws in the path of pain though.
>>721507626of course i already did that, anon.
>>721507619Radiance has reasonable feelings, she's reasonably pissed off.
>>721507619The Pale King may have been a lot weirder back when he was a monster the size of a mountain.
>>721507619They are literally all "part of a species". Radiance is a moth, Silk is a spider. Only Silk (and her uplifted weavers) have trouble reproducing. We don't know if Radiance had any potential trouble.
>>721507680Even Raging Conchfly, the longest one, is under a minute.
>>721507680Yes.(the bilewater one is completely justified in pissing people off)
>He doesn't use wanderer>He doesn't hit the boss 5 or 6 times when knocked out>He needs range to hit enemies
>>721507871I look like this and do this.
>>721507569Thank you. That will be good to know for the next time I have to kill him.
Doing the Mushroom Man quest before doing the final boss, is the 'Scorched Field on edge, shells black and burned' section supposed to be in Deep Docks or Far Fields? I've looked around the intervening points of both and can't find a sign of him.
>>721507871I use Hunter exclusively and 70% of my attacks are dash attacks or claw.
>>721501504Like giant Mushroom corpse says, foresight isn't useful if you can't stop a foregone conclusion.I remember reading sn interpretation of the Pandora's Box myth where the last thing to try and leave, the thing she catches and spares mankind from is Foreknowledge.Because it would mean we'd know every terrible thing that would happen, with no way to stop it.In the end you would meet the devil in Rome even if you never left Poland. Because you didn't realise the pub was named Rome.That is the Pale King. He can see the future. If he could change it it would meant he can't see the future.But, unfortunately, he can see the future.
Nigger lace is horrendous boss design
>>721508081She's great boss design.Every boss should have an ass that would fill a bus seat.
>>721507871I used Reaper for the entirety of my blind run through, but I'm gonna use hunter in future runs just because they keep forcing you to use Hunter after certain cutscenes like during red memory
>>721507508You need to tell people that you were responsible for fucking up the world, that way the craws know what you did and that they should put you on trial.
>>721507805Nah dude they don't count. The only species they're apart of is higher being. Like how god made humans in his image but he isn't an actual human himself.
>>721508081that is a deeply unpopular opinion.
>>721508081Skissue
which one was hardest for you guys to beat? bounce for me
>>721507754She just screams in our face, like grandma silk
>>721508173Now show the unskippable 20 second diving begore the fight and 30 second sequence to phase 3 of jumping over two waves
>>721507959I think it's in the upper part of deep docks but I genuinely don't remember, I found it by happenstance while fucking about. I do know it's in order though.
>>721508182juggle was a pain because the number increments only after you bounce them like 3-4 times so I hated it. I am never going above the minimum for the oil.
>>721507665yea, it was that (assuming you actually meant Bellhart), thanks.
>>721507959Far fields
>>721508182Juggle by a mile. Witch or reaper crests have great pogos for bouncing, dodge is pretty RNG but quick. Juggle sucks, Seth will remain unbeaten
>>721507960I almost never dash since I got clawline
Why can bosses just parry the fucking witch heal randomly?
Sneed
>>721508429You should have dashes downwards at the end. You know you can dash downwards right?
>>721508538>You know you can dash downwards right?No
>>721508429i don't understand how can you guys have the patience for these minigames.
>>721508329Nope, mine was in Far Fields Here's the pin they sent me with the summons.
>>721508569spam clawline
>>721508569I don't understand how people don't like the minigames. I got the high scores on the flea games before I even knew that you got the last oil from them.
>>721508569I was a little sad the silk anklets didn't work, and that pogo section in the third race at the end of the first turn was a killer for me.Chaining the Harpoon into Dash for the speedboost was something I think was the point of the minigame, but it was pretty fun.
>>721508569Because it's fun
>>721507323Obviously
>>721508569I get not wanting to bother with memento only highscores but the 100% required minigames were fun to do and didn't even take that many attempts.
>>721508650>I don't understand why people didn't like (x)>I did it the first tryevery time.
>>721508429>Act 3 is all doom and gloom>it's where most of the goofy minigames are thrown in>>721508569They're not particularly difficult and, aside from the flea juggle, they play off what you've already been doing in the game.
>>721508720He didn't say that, he said he MVP'd them unaware of the reward. Not that it took him one attempt. You need to learn to read man.
>>721508173>Trying to show off in the FIRST phaseLol. Kek even.
>>721508827It's the hardest phase, 2 and 3 is just her giving you free openings while she spawns shit.
>>721508818obviously it's not word for word, but the intent is clear. stop being disingenuous
>>721507334neither of them were voided, just the enemies in the run up rooms
>>721508720It took me multiple attempts. I just liked having a fun little challenge that was different from the rest of the stuff I'd been doing.
This is probably heaven for Hornet considering a decent chunk of her enemy entries are about fluffiness
>hornet's vag barely scrapes the enemy's shoulder >TWO DAMAGEContacting a fucking non attacking enemy should always be one damage, I don't even mind the prevalence of 2x damage but fucking grazing an enemy should never cause it
>>721508569I'd like them more if they didn't feel like actual RNG slots at times>big flea destroys the platform in flea dodge I double jump over and float through>doesn't come up before I fall to the floor
>Lost Lace takes a beating and get un-niggered>Lost Garmond takes a beating and fucking diesFUCK YOU
>>721508891Unironically this.
>>721508916>post says that he did the minigames before knowing there was a reward because he was having fun>HE IS BRAGGING HE DIDN'T SAY IT BUT HE WAS BRAGGING ABOUT DOING THEM FIRST TRY WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT READ BETWEEN THE LINESmeds, NOW
>>721508928Shaaaaaaaame
>>721509034>tip of your penis scrapes the enemy's shoulderwhat now?
>>721508928Getting there is harder than the boss fight itself
>>721509034She's very sensitive
>>721508916No, they're clearly distinct. You REALLY need to read more. Your statement is that he meant "I don't see how anyone could hate the minigames, I didn't struggle at all completing them" vs his actual intent of "I don't see how anyone could hate the minigames, I had so much fun I beat them without knowing there was a reward for doing so".The former implies that he dodged the misfortune of failing wheras the latter is talking about enjoying them intrinsically vs extrinsically and makes no mention of time or attempts.
>>721509034Enemies should have an animation they do whenever you take contact damage from them.
>>721509052Actually there is a good lore explanation for this and totally not forced suffering because uhhhhhhh......
>>721509052Lace was just silk soaked in void good. Garmond's soul was voided.
>>721509119>eroge protag with hyper sensitive body
>>721509034Are these wanderer crest problems?
>>721509034>hornet's vag
>>721509237Witch crest too. The aggressive crests force you to be close
>>721509034>Slash clearly goes through the enemy>It doesn't hit7 years development cycle
>>721509034She has a sperm receptacle and oviduct, not a vag
What happens if you get caught and dragged to slab while you have the parasite?
>>721509052Lace was spawned directly from a Pale Being, so she's made of sterner stuff. Or more repairable stuff, at the very least. The big silk infusion before the jump out of the Void was probably to heal Lace as much as it was to fuel Hornet's soaring
>>721509339You know what happens otherwise you wouldn't ask
>>721509339The parasite explodes, kills the jailer, and unremovable roots spawn around the area after Hornet wakes up.
>>721509237It's a constant lost lace problem unless you're cheering her with architect
>>721509339Parasite kills the jailer
>>721509052Lace was a construct made fully out of silk/soul, and Garmond is a regular flesh and blood bug.The fact he even managed to survive as far as he did is impressive as is.
>mess around with architect after beating the game>plasmium is hiveblood ON CRACKwtf why did nobody tell me it regenerated your HP twice as fast and with no limit?
>>721509406Never had this issuet. Huntergod
>>721509381I don't, I'm on my second playthrough and I've been avoiding the capture guys, and I saw one of them while doing the parasite quest.>>721509393>>721509423About what I expected if they thought of it, was wondering if they had caught that or if they had something crueler in mind.
Literally what were they thinking hiding the putrified ducts in the memorium? How was I supposed to find that out? On top of that the key to enter the jail map is there. Why?
>>721509448Everyone did
>>721509448Winners don't do drugs!
Is there a good site for checking off 100% with everything laid out nicely?
>>721509406If you're getting contact damage from LL it's a you problem
>>721509498>Literally what were they thinking hiding the putrified ducts in the memorium? How was I supposed to find that out?The find the merchant wish from Songclave directly takes you there>On top of that the key to enter the jail map is there. Why?that one I dunno, bugger got lost on his jogging route maybe
>>721509448Because nobody likes long fights, it's all about the flashy combos and high dps
>>721509498They think you'd do the quest, and most people did, you're probably one of the special ones who didn't
>>721509381Based
>>721500432I didn't even play godhome and I'm really looking forward to the silksong equivalent, HK had a lot of weak bosses I dreaded fighting again but even the weaker encounters in silksong are fun
>>721509514>>721509514
>>721509534>it's a you problem that you run into the teleporting pitch black enemy in phase 3 on a stage with constant stage hazards and a moving floor that are all the exact same color of black Ok
>>721507521the shortcut you get after beating all the arenas right
>>721509676Yep yep, she only teleports in an erratic fashion if you dick around with her
>>721503714I think they said they had silksong dlc in the works so I'd expect that to come before anything else
>>721509727That makes zero sense I'm playing hyper aggressive and she's constantly teleporting
