Reminder that Sonic Racing CrossWorlds is only doing so well because Mario Kart World fumbled so badly.As soon as Nintendo inevitably caves into the criticism and gives the players what they want (3 Lap Races online) alongside DLC tracks & racers (which will no doubt be free just to make Sonic's overpriced DLC look bad in comparison) as well as 200cc, it's gonna be over for CrossWorlds. It will DIE then and there, and in the future be remembered for what it truly is: An unpolished wannabe that relies on nostalgia & collabs over actual quality content, that knocked Mario Kart off its throne for a mere 15 minutes.Nintendo will BTFO this overhyped trash the same way they BFTO'd Nick Brawl, and it will be legendary.
>>721584073>2 MORE WEEKS!
>>721584138I'll wait as long as it is needed for Nintendo to finally give Mario Kart the elbow grease it needs to make this overhyped shit look like the overhyped shit it truly is
grown men shouldn't get upset over video games
>>721585959Grown men shouldn’t defend capitalism and scumbag corporations putting less and less effort into games like Nintendo is doing.
>>721584073>Sonic Racing CrossWorlds is only doing so welIs it? I haven't seen any reports good or bad.
>>721586132I'll bite. What economic system should grown men support if not capitalism?
>>721586382Give ME your money-ism
>>721586452I'm going to assume this isn't the person I initially replied to.
>>721584073Mario Kart 8 was so big, had so much DLC and lasted so long that a new MK would have always been perceived as smaller and barebones in comparison, It doesn't matter the amount of costumes, enemies or open world they introduce. The fumble was inevitable, until they release the DLC that is.
>>721586132>B-but capitalism and evil corporations!!!Get a job, redditfag
>>721586382HEKIN ARCHY EPIC JOKER!!!!!!
>>721586382one that is nice to the consumer for once :(
>>721586971>consumerSo capitalisr
ring racers 2.4 >>>> all else
>>721586686Would be better if they decided not to make the roster literally who's like a cow.>BUH BUH MUH MEMESThe cow meme died faster than the game did.
>>721586382Fascism.
Mario Kart did nothing wrong
>>721584073>As soon as Nintendo inevitably caves into the criticism and gives the players what they wantHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>721584073>Reminder that Sonic Racing CrossWorlds is only doing so well because Mario Kart World fumbled so badly.And isn't that a good thing?Why is wanting Nintendo to improve their games so competitors also improve theirs bad for anyone?
>>721588068Tell me how, at this point, it's NOT bound to happen? Nintendo is not gonna take SONIC THE FUCKING HEDGEHOG of all gaming properties threatening their kart racing market share without fighting back. In fact, they're probably just holding back the free updates and DLC for World just so CrossWorlds has a chance to sell.
>>721589374>he still thinks Nintendo is pro-consumer AHAHAHAHAHAHAthe switch era success went to their heads, and now they're as greedy as Sony is in the PS5 era
>>721584073We could have had a new CTR instead of this sonic shit
>>721584073>DLC tracks & racers (which will no doubt be freeNintendo is selling base BOTW for 70 fucking dollars on Switch 2, Kirby and the Forgotten Land for 80 dollars, and the other half of DK Bananza's post-game for $20, you're fucking kidding yourself if you think Nintendo's giving away ANYTHING for free in the modern day
>>721584073>As soon as Nintendo inevitably caves into the criticism and gives the players what they want (3 Lap Races online)You were playing the game wrong to them and they patched out the only way to get 3 laps, theyre not caving anytime soon
>>721589374They ain't run by Iwata no more nigga. Now you got a Soulless Salaryman and a goddamn, motherfuckin former EA exec.They led their last goddamn direct with a movie announcement. Games are no longer their main focus no more nigga.They don't give a shit, they just seein how much they can milk outta you.You really think kiddie-ass games that look like shit is worth 80 goddamn dollars?What's wrong wid you?
>>721586686>It doesn't matter the amount of costumesIt would matter. People fucking loved CTRNF for its skins. Hell, this game wouldn't be getting nearly as much shit if characters like King Boo got his LM design or the Koopa skins came in different colors and referenced the RPGs.>enemiesIn what sense, playable minions or hazards/bosses? Because again, people tend to like racing as enemies and have been begging for bosses to return ever since MKDS.>or open worldIt's not the open world that's the problem but rather how empty it is, the non-varied missions, and how pointless its collectables are.
>>721584073>DLC tracks & racers (which will no doubt be free just to make Sonic's overpriced DLC look bad in comparison)>free HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
I liked MKW. Knockout Tour is fun, and the costumes are a genuinely huge draw for me. It's kind of dumb to say, but Nintendo is so picky with their characters that seeing those costumes is kind of more enticing than usual, compared with other franchises. I'd be stoked if they had varied costumes in the next Smash Bros. I also like the open world and the music is top-tier.I'll fully admit I'm not the type to play online against randoms, nor the type to grind out tracks to pull off crazy off-track exploits, so maybe I'm not part of the conversation to begin with, so to speak. But still, I'm sure there are others who like the new stuff that exists.Anyway, I'm still getting Sonic AND Kirby day one, and hope to enjoy all of them.
>>721591985>how empty it is, the non-varied missions, and how pointless its collectables are.It has more fucking variety than horizon and yet people praise that game. The open world has a fuck ton to do. Im not sure what else you would like
>>721594537>has more fucking variety than horizonForza Horizon? It definitely does not lol
>>721594878>Forza Horizon? It definitely does not lolOk tell me what is so amazing about the open world in horizon that is so much better than than world?
>>721584073>As soon as Nintendo inevitably caves into the criticismNintendo does not admit they are wrong, they doubled down on intermissions.You will wait until Mario Kart 9 comes out.
>>721594913There's more stuff to do, better variety in locales, more cars etc
>>721595049>There's more stuff to do, better variety in locales, more cars etcMore cars is not the open world lmao. You really cant tell anything else lmao
>>721595119And what is there to do in MK World besides flipping blue switches?
>>721584073>(3 Lap Races online)They're already working on this. They aren't caving yet, but as more pressure is applied, we WILL see it happen before the end of the year.>200ccNot happening in this game. The tracks aren't built for it, they'd be miserable to play.
>>721595035>Mario Kart 9This IS Mario Kart 9 for the Switch 2 generation.You think this is some kind of spinoff?
>>721595310>And what is there to do in MK World besides flipping blue switches?So you cant name anything gotcha lmao
>>721595402>They're already working on this.2 MORE WEEKS!!
>>721586382Capitalism sans Juden
>>721595591>Further increased the frequency of lap-type courses appearing in the selection when choosing the next course in "VS Race" and wireless races.Yup.
>>721595573Huh, only now have I noticed that 7 and 8 are the only numbered entries in the Mario Kart series, how strange.
>>721584073>which will no doubt be freeLawlThat'll be 29.99 plus tip, enjoy your Diddy Kong and the 5 new tracks, with 100+ intermissions!
>>721595873Probably because they realized after DS and Wii that naming every Mario Kart after the system they released on was a retarded approach but couldn't think of any fitting and striking names for either entries so they just resorted to numbering them
>>721586753I have a job and my hartd earned money won't go to evil corporations as much as I can avoid it, retard
>>721584073>Better Movies>Better Kart RacerWhat a great time to be alive
>>721598496>Better Moviesonly sonic 3 was good
>>721598496>Better MoviesSonic has historically always had the advantage in terms of non-vidya content. He can beat Mario all he wants in all these other categories, most of whom Nintendo has rarely dabbled into, but will never win in the one the two were CREATED for.>Better Kart RacerOnly technically better by virtue of providing what MKW tries to gatekeep away from the players. It's otherwise worse in every regard and as soon as Nintendo, begrudgingly or not, removes those restrictions it will shoot up in quality FAR above Cross Worlds.
>>721584073>which will no doubt be free just to make Sonic's overpriced DLC look bad in comparisonLolLmao even
>>721599302You conzoomed it anyway. Why would they give in to what you want? they don't giuve a shit if you play the game, you already bought it.
>>721584073they would also need to patch drifting and trick boosting to be better, because otherwise crossworlds mechanics would still just be superior. making 3 lap races 100% would certainly help but there's a lot more they need to patch up to make it worth coming back to. more dlc tracks( which will be $20) will only get people to come back for a week or two at most especially if they're anything like 8s dlc tracks
>>721584073Is it actually doing well or just reviews? Never got the sense other kart racers had sales.
Debunk
What's that Plank? Plank says the rivalry is forced by midwits that have no inner monologue or self-awareness.
>>721586686mk8 deluxe honestly sucked for anyone who had a wiiu because you already played the game for 5 years already by that point and all the dlc in deluxe was tour slop. mkw add some cool new mechanics and the costumes are great but open world ruined the game on a fundamental level thats almost not worth fixing. I'd prefer if they went the mario party route and just made a new one and forget all about this failed experiment of a game
Crossworlds has three major advantages though.>Being multiplat>being crossplay>inevitably getting sales (because Nintendo games never do)I don't expect it to sell better than MKW regardless, but it if ends up being a solid contender that actually pushes Nintendo to get its act together, then that's fine for me. Competition like this is always good for the consumer in the long-term.
>>721598956even sonics bad movies are better than marios worse movie
>>721589374Dude Pokemon has shown that all they need to do is stay the course regardless of quality
>>721599957Also, Pokemon doesn't have to try because they can use their budget on suing anyone that dares to rock the boat and become competition.
>>721598496All Sonic needs is a couple of more mainline games that receive an average 8.5-9.5 score rating and a new anime with animation on-par with their game cinematics, and his reputation is back on track.
>>721584073>THE ONLY REASON SONIC RACING IS BETTER IS BECAUSE MARIO KART IS WORSEIncredible insight.
>>721590883>>721592669>>721599396What makes you think they WON'T do it as a strategic "fuck you" towards Sonic?>Bananza DLC was twenty dollars for a single area with no collectables and a post-game side mode!That was because Bananza is failing to meet their sales expectations, they released the overpriced DLC selling content that was scrapped close to the game's completion so they could cash in on the loyal fans who'd buy it regardless of the price, alongside the free demo to hopefully reel in newcomers.Mario Kart World has already made its cash, pretty much everyone who bought a Switch 2 either bought the bundle with it or has ended up buying it separately down the line. The real challenge for Nintendo now is retention, making sure the game has legs for the long-run. Which is important for Mario Kart as every game in the series has been a system selling juggernaut, ESPECIALLY 8 Deluxe which is still topping sales charts to this very day.So, free DLC alongside a PR win in the form of fixing THE most common, yet easily fixable complaint that plagues discourse around the game that has made a Sonic Racing game, off all things, become the more "desirable" product? That's an easy way to ensure sales in the long run.Let's be real here, now that the initial fan surge is over, and especially after that controversial recent Direct, Nintendo HAS realized how the aggressive Switch 2 pricing has scared away potential buyers, and are on the verge of starting to try to make sure reluctant buyers feel they are getting a good deal without actually reducing the prices. Starting with adding onto the flagship title that countless people have criticized for not being worth the 80 dollar price point.Perhaps they won't and I'm just being giga retarded, but I have a good feeling this will be the case. Nintendo is greedy, yes. But they're strategic greedy. They know when to tune things down when it's beginning to potentially hurt their wallets.
>>721600906>What makes you think they WON'T do it as a strategic "fuck you" towards Sonic?Because it's not 1990 anymore.
>>721600906>WON'T do it as a strategic "fuck you" towards Sonic?>Implying Nintendo give a shit about Sega OR the fanbase, and not trying to MAXIMIZING the profit
>>721600906Anon, you're projecting your reasonableness, financial savviness, and sense of accountability onto Nintendo. To do all of what you said is to admit that MKW isn't perfect and at the end of the day, Nintendo's spite towards their fans and insecurity always stands a better chance at overriding their "strategic greediness". Looking forward to being proven wrong but even if so, the fact that it would have taken them this long to do the right thing in both the financial and ethical sense, for the short term and long term, would still be a slap in the face as it is simply an apology for being caught.
>>721600906>That was because Bananza is failing to meet their sales expectationsBut you guys said it was a HUGE success that was making waves and on track to win game of the year. Was that not true?
>>721601939We literally don't even know what the total sales figures are like yet, and won't have a clue until November. Any claims that the sales are poor are pure speculation or shitposting.
>>721586382National Socialism
>>721584073lol
>>721584073Huh reminds me of some other game you lot said that about
>>721585959This desu
Any garfbros here?The release of the dogshit sequel made me replay furious racing insteadI finally scored perfect in all cups
>>721584073HOLY COPE
>>721595589NTA but in forza you had drift challenges, speed traps, air time challenges, reputation boards, barn finds, season changes to the map that affected driving.
>>721601939Good =/= Sells wellJust looks at Crossworlds. Far and away a better racer, but it's not going to sell a quarter of MK World's numbers.