What is the /v/erdict?
it's wokeit's gayI hate it
>>721614752What is more woke and gay about it than in EL1? Screenshots seem to be on par with it.
The rainy/drought seasons thing is cool, fuck sailing in 4X games. Combat seems deeper. Not enough content yet. I like the pacifist coral mech dudes.
Mechanically seems fine at a glance, at least in the early stages. Still have to get further in the game. Good thing they've changed the combat. Factions are kinda boring, but then again EL's were a mixed bag too with high ups and low lows.Writing is dreadful. What the fuck happened? I play as the zealot science lizards and the quest dialogues pop up all the time and are so stiff it's painful to read them.
>>721614667I liked the demo but I have not gotten into the early access yet.
>>721616335>Writing is dreadful. What the fuck happened?They still employ the same lead writer. He should have stuck with writing big picture narratives and keeping it somewhat abstract and streamlined. Actual dialog was always the weak point of Amplitude and it is what they doubled down on with writing now.
>>721614667Amplitude's competitive edge has always been UI. There's a common joke that a UI is either for Engineers who want everything on one page or marketers who want everything nested behind as many clicks as possible to maximize pretty space. EL2 seems to have swerved deep into the latter. It's not a vanity website, it's a videogame for a limited audience of INTJs. Get rid of the Visual Novel elements, any cutscene that isn't prologue or epilogue, and stop nesting critical information behind 3 fucking button presses.Hero's are now equipped from an inventory of loot drops, but none of the basic QOL features from RPGs are present. For example, hovering over equipment will not compare the stats for you in any UI element. You can cope that this is early access, but if that's the case, then what is Amplitude showcasing if not their UI? The thing they're famous for.Also it's annoying that the Balanced Lords had their name changed and that all of the resources are renamed with new icons. Also the factions that escaped Auriga used spaceflight, the lore confirms they passed through the events of Endless Space and that the Academy is currently divided and fighting the lodestone war, but the factions land safely and revert to their medieval lifestyle. Whuu?
>>721617138>He should have stuck with writing big picture narratives and keeping it somewhat abstract and streamlined.This exactly. The charm of only *implying* that EL takes place in the context of ES was very neat. Placing it definitively in the context of a war that shatters the galaxy and determines the fate of the Endless really shits on any sense of scale that planetary events can have.
It's great, goty materialI love necrophagesCaptcha: 4H0M0
>>721616189>Not enough content yetwhat are you looking forward to? roadmap only mentions custom faction, new factions and multiplayer if i'm not mistaken
>>721618180New mechanics with dlc
>>721618834Mayb if Amplitude actually commits to making them themselves this time, their prior games had some real stinkers made by third party studios. But I do have hope on Hooded Horse as their publisher now.
no cultists no buy
>>721614667the arts are great just like any other amplitude's games, but how's the game's balance? the studio is notoriously bad at it
>>721614667I dont understand 4X games that contain story and quest for specific race. Not only it create inbalance since AI is too dumb to finish his quests, but also make the game boring to replay because you are interrupted with same shitty visual novel dialogs where you have to kill the same enemies and gather same resources. At least in Age of Wonders 4 the story maps are in separate category. Here this is essential as winning the game depend mostly on finishing story quests that are easier than overall conqueriing the map
>>721620596I think it works really well in Spellforce: Conquest of Eo, but it is explicitly made into a single player only game.
>>721621343Yeah and they are by default banned on multiplayer games in Gladius since they literally give additional units or create independent quest cities and armies shitting up the map.Devs need to start separating games into single player only campaign and overall skirmish maps without the story. And Endless Legend is fucking it up in both games
>>721621343CoE is a weird game, I don't really consider it a 4x even though technically it fits the criteria. It's sort of a Heroes of Master of Magic RPG to me.
>>721622771It seemed cool but I could just never get into CoE
>>721614752fpbp
>>721623212I love it but I can see how people can bounce off it. It's really a game about upgrading the everloving shit out of your 1-3 doomstacks and should be approached as such, if you come in expecting "Civ but magic", you'll be disappointed. It does at times feel more like an army-based RPG than a strategy game.The magic is great though. This is something that I hate in AoW4 - the spells there are largely about stacking small stat increases into something noteworthy. CoE is more akin to MoM in that it doesn't really care about balance much and eventually escalates into outright bullshit as you tech up. Part of it being single player only, I guess.
>>721622771>>721624091The closest comparison I would make would be to compare it to the formula of Disciples 1 and 2, where the game is more about violently exploring regions of the map with small but strong warbands rather than conquering the world with an army.
>>721617138The Horsez guy?
>>721614667Early access should be banned from studios that are obviously not indie. Watch them keep it in EA for years like Eugen did with WARNO.
>early accessNo. Never again.
>>721624091>The magic is great though.I agree 100%, getting a new spellpage always makes a difference, as it should in a game about being a mage doped on allfire.I was stupefied, when picrel just basically froze the whole fucking map & made me into a fan of the game.
>>721624571>>721624685based i pirate all my games wither way
>4xcertified garbage
>>721624781Jesus Christ I want to give it another try now
>>721614667>Endless Legend IIShow me a single pic with a subfaction like this or I'm not interested
>>721627734Is a main faction with tomboy leadership not enough?
>>721627734me on the left
>>721627593Got all the dlc, boutta summon goth bitches from hell
>>721628272>there will only be 6 factions in the base game>this is one of them>bland visuals>main bonus is that you build military stuff slightly quicker I'm not feeling so good.
>>721614667Where are the cultists?>Th-there's a one city factionThat's not the cultists.
>>721629294Necrophages are objectively cooler, your cultists got absorbed into the better faction you are welcome saar
>>721627734Maybe she will show armpits if you give her enough Dust.
>>721624091Unrelated but amusing, your post got scraped by a spambot that's being used to try (and fail) to derail another thread
>>721630705S-she's back?
>>721624781I love magic being fucking tremendous in Dominions games too.
>>721628272>tomboyTomboy doesn't mean literally a man, dude. You posting that in reaction to what I posted might as well be a huge insult>brown>shitty hair>tits completely hidden, wearing clothing that is only slightly less covering than a burkaAnd if you fucking white about realism in fucking endless legend where women wear giant pauldrons with cleavage plate you're a huge faggot.>>721630491>completely fucking coveredif she was in any previous endless game she'd have huge tits
I didn't play the first one, but played AoW4 a lot, and by comparison there is so much context/information missing in EL2. The game never tells you when an action will have some sort of tertiary result so you just have to trial and error your way through it. Which I'm just not going to do.
>>721632335The only reason they made the Lumeris leader so stacked is because literally nobody would care about that faction otherwise.Which completely supports your point. More big titty leaders, please.
>>721632779yeah, also in AoW4 you can also check enemy units' movement by clicking them even their attack range too, they both are missing in EL2
>>721620128Same.Who are they even making this game for?
>no multiplayer 0 reasons to buy it for me
>>721632335Why is Amplitude so fucking adverse to big titties and attractive women nowadays?Only nerds play their fucking games, don't they understand this?
>>721637740Umm sweatie humankind is for wider audience and so is endless franchise ok
>>721637740Maybe the "it was all Sega's fault" cope was just that. A cope.
>>721638976Repeat after me:All game developers are faggots or in the process of becoming one.
>>721638784Humankind actually had few skimpy tribal styled outfits for women, probably by accident.
>>721614667From the folx who brought us Humankind and Black people in space?!Heck yeah!
I will not buy EA slop.
>>721628272Holy moly she's BADASS!Not for the male gaze. This one ain't no damsel!
>>721641838Finally, we will get the untapped female audience for 4X games!
>>721641115they didn't use to be like that manwhat the fuck happened to the people that did>>721632335and >>721627734
>>721617138They should hire me, I'm a great writer and based in Europe as well. I'll apply if they ever open up a position.
>>721615845>I am going to intentially act retardedYou do you
>>721614752Ok, snowflake.
I liked the district system, and how you could focus a certain FIDSI compared to EL1
How's Endless Space 2? How does it compare to Stellaris?
I really don't like that most of the map is a pit now by turn 100It looks like assAlso really missing the generic fantasy faction like the knife earsAlso coral niggas coral/nirn root shit activates my tinnitus
>>721628272I'll go back to EL and ES2.
>>721646927>ES2please convince me to play this I completely forgot some anon gifted it to me like three years ago in a Christmas thread
>>721647076Fish boobiesAlso robot vampire thighs and also boobies
>>721647164How long is a typical game in hours and turns? Is it ok to play for a completely braindead retard like me? How's the ship customization? Are fights real time or turn based? How much do you get to control your units in combat? How's ground/planetary combat? Are tech trees/equipment upgrades easy to read or are there a bunch of underpowered noob traps like in Stellaris?
>>721647485Multiplayer can be pretty short because there is one faction that can teleport a planet buster to your capital
>>721614667I enjoyed the first Endless Legend quite a bit but I really don't see a reason for a sequel to exist. We have Age of Wonders 4 now and I don't think it can compete with it.
>>721614752You cannot handle the basedness of French culture
>>721647076Ignore the memeposters, pick riftborns, terraform the galaxy into lava, blow up pacifist systems, and press auto-resolve on combat (you can watch it).>>721647485It's retard proof on normal. It's an amplitude game, so it's not balanced or even really that enjoyable strictly gameplay wise but not actively fighting you. You can probably turn off most DLCs and not miss them that much. Hissho are arguably the least disruptive. Ship customization is functional. Basically, different ship classes have a set of open slots sorted into weapons, defense, utility (eg engines). You can put whatever modules match the type into the slots, and upgrade the ship class slots with research. Combat is neither turn based nor real time. You pick a tactics card for your fleet's deployment and it auto-resolves. Weapons have different range and can be energy or kinetics, and your tactics influence whether you try staying at long range or move to close range. Ground combat is the same but it's not ships fighting ships, its your deployed forces against garrisons + building bonuses. But mostly you use siege modules to deplete garrison and then blitz them. Research is in 4 quadrants, and you can't really fuck up since there's no long chain of requirements, only like "You need this ship class to be able to research its upgrade".
>>721647485Games are long for me but I'm mostly dicking around VS AI and not a power gamer in 4Xes. Map generation can sometimes make for some weird and unbalanced layoutss, one time a "dense" cluster genned me a starting galaxy which was just a string of systems with zero branches to other systems and nothing but abnormalities and low planet systems (which are rigged to gen one pirate lair).
>>721632335>>721643203Not everyone had their tits out in ES2.
>>721632335Looks fine in-game. Manface in concept art goes back as far as the 90s.
>>721651316>Looks fine in-gameShe still looks like a man.Even the black woman in>>721651120Still looks feminine, despite the hair and clothes obscuring her entire body.
>Only 5 factions>All factions are bland and boring>Intro cutscenes still cheap tweening but now the voice acting and writing is cringe too>Combat STILL a fucking slog>Awful UIRIP, I can't bring myself to play this, it's too bad.
>>721628272>>721651316I'm getting hype for butch dyke #984217, thank you söyjak eunuchs who are deathly afraid of sex appeal!
>>721652095?
>>721652095>>721652549You can not like the series if you want, but don't be disingenuous. The style hasn't changed.
>>721652698>The style hasn't changed.Ok, post a single big tiddy bitch from the new game. Just one. Uno.
>>721652698>>721653142You know what, it doesn't even need big tiddies. Just cleavage. She can have small breasts, but post some skin.Previous games were full of characters showing skin.
>>721653142>>721653271The game isn't finished. I'll concede if the minute the final version is released, there are still none.
>>721653420Fine. I'll be saving your post for the inevitable "I told you so" on release.
So is this board just doomed to forever be infested with people who try to spam derail threads about games they don't even care about? You can't talk about anything anymore and the mods seem to actively encourage this behavior.
>>721653578You can't expect the current game to not be compared with the previous game, anon.
>>721652698>The style hasn't changedDon't be disingenuous.Literally everything is gay and lame in 2, here's a comparison of the same faction.
>>721628272ugly trannoid mystery meat and its for the only human faction as wellFuck this game, the music will end up the only good part.
>>721651120Bottom left is fucking adorable, I instantly hire her in all my games as soon as I can.
>>721653578You don't understand, anon, whether I can coom to the females in the game is far more important than the gameplay itself
>>721653973Man I never even played as Necrophages but I still feel angry, they just turned them into big ork insect things
>>721653578I like the endless IP, but this entry is dogwater.
>>721653578The thread would have fallen off page 10 three posts in if it weren't for fans of the original complaining that Amplitude is going to shit. If that's what you want, you can easily simulate that experience by closing this tab.
>>721654363A series changing from having attractive women everywhere to only featuring ugly dykes itself is a red-flag. The gameplay is probably also gonna be worse.Not like the devs previous games were any good either.Or what, you liked humankind?
>>721654617Yeah, I love Endless Space 2 but this one might get a pirate at best
>>721654363You know that worse character design is an almost perfect indicator for worse gameplay. You think that pretending to not understand that makes you smart, but you're wrong about that.
>>721653973>Don't be disingenuous.All EL2 threads so far been like this. Devs clearly know what is it that they are doing.People can clearly see that.Yet douchebags in threads still try to gaslight, lmao. The writing was on the wall the moment they had a troon talk on development update video for EL2.The thing is already dead, John.
but is the gameplay, specifically combat, better than the original?
>>721655034>All EL2 threads so far been like this. First one I've posted in. I've been on break from /v/>People can clearly see that. I'm willing to give everyone the benefit of the doubt at least once
>>721655280Still ultra slow that you just wanna auto-resolve.
>>721654005>only human faction as well Has that been confirmed?
>>721617489???Is it not a middle-of-nowhere story anymore like EL1 was?
why are the broken lords back wtf
>>721653578You pretty much have to go to /vg/ if you actually want to discuss videogames
>>721656067>he thinks /civ4xg/ has better discussions
>>721656067>It's not discussion if the sentiment is negativeHate you toxic positivity pussies so much. The game is bad and that's that
>>721656067>>721653578Why can't you just post what you think look good about the game?
>>721656824It's more of the same (good)
>>721657817So it's the same game with less factions, worse art, and early access?Doesn't sound great.
>>721653973What the fuckWhy
>>721658215>less factionsDid they confirm no more than 6 before full release?>worse artOverworld graphics (unit, city, terrain models) look far better>early accessHow is this a bad thing?
>>721614667>roman inspired faction is female lead>zero white male faction leadersi skip
>>721660202>How is this a bad thing?High risk of never finishing, duh.>Overworld graphics (unit, city, terrain models) look far betterthey look souless as fuck.
>>721614667>only girlboss leaders while male leaders are all effeminiate and emasculatedwestern devs are absolutely terryfied of actual normal and realistric gender depictions
>>721661345I've seen you in more than one thread, why do you spell like someone trying to pass for an ESL?
I liked Humankind...
>>721662276I liked humankind for the first half of the game. But starting in the medieval age the game seemed unfinished. Also industrymaxxing was too good, but that may just be me being too dumb to do other stuff.
>>721614667it's on game pass, I guess
>>721614667>Early Accessoooof
>>721643203those people quit like 3 games ago
