How bad lore wise is it if I skip portable ops and peace walker and play V?Both of them are currently unplayable on my only available gaming device(steam deck)
>>721616682Mgs has a dogshit story so you won't be missing anything by skipping any one of them
>>721616682Peace Walker is pretty important, Portable Ops doesn't matter at all.
It isn't totally considered canon so you can take it or leave it.
>>721616682GZ is a must before PPbut PP won't have an impact on you if you don't play and finish PW beforePortable Ops is proto-PW and the story is barely canon since Kojima didn't direct it
>>721616682Peace Walker sets up alot of the events and the main antagonist faction from MGSV but it isn't too important to play since V does a pretty decent job explaining what happened if you hear all the messages and dialogs, still you should play it
>>721616682>How bad lore wise is it if I skip portable opsNot biggie. Just look up its summary.>and peace walkerBIG fuck-up.MGS:PW is the original AND the superior "MGS5" game, with the best Big Boss and the best missions. I put nearly 400 hours to this bad boy on PS3, it's soooo good. Not only that, but Ground Zeroes, the prologue chapter of the MGSV + the only GOOD chapter in V, is a direct sequel to Peace Walker.Overall, TPP is just an unfinished husk of a game, that also plays like a modern Ubishit title. It's so unpolished and weird, that it's better to just skip this shit, especially if you value the story and characters of the franchise.
>>721616682I don't get why they used the lenin imagery
>>721616682portable ops is nice story vise but it's inconsequencial so you might skip it. Piece walker shits on the entire series so it should be ignored and V is just a continuation of that. If you wanna build a base and have fun, then play V but i recommend skipping every cutscene. Remarkably, you will enjoy the game more if you create your own context. That being said, the game is unfinished so there's nothing really to strive for.
>>721617407You know GZ is included in V nowadays so there's really no need to mention it>>721617529I guess I'll wait then
>>721617529>Overall, TPP is just an unfinished husk of a game, that also plays like a modern Ubishit title. It's so unpolished and weird, that it's better to just skip this shit, especially if you value the story and characters of the franchise.Did you try modding it to your liking with Snakebite and Infinite Haven? lots of thing happening and way more enemies and obstacles - makes the open world alive
>>721616682I thought it was cool until I got to the point where I had to setup the spy unit and do random shit for 4 missions to wait for them to finish spying
>>721616682not directed by kojima so you're good. I remember kojima saying little bits about it happened in universe but he never mentioned the specific details so I don't think its directly plot related
>>721622284this is for portable ops, meant to add definitely play peace walker before ground zeroes
>>721616682Kojima does his best to ignore 99% of what happened in PO, leaving any mention of it to be relegated to like 2 lines of dialogue total. PO is cool though you should play it.PW is basically a part of V and is referenced heavily throughout it.
>>721616682PPSSPP doesn't work on a steam deck? I find that hard to believe.
>>721620258>Did you try modding it to your liking with Snakebite and Infinite Haven?No. And I am not interested in it.If the core game is not fun and COMPLETED without mods, it's by the very definition shit. And the little I do know of MGSV modding, it's not extensive and deep enough to cover even half of the game's glaring issues. The fundamentals do not change.It really tells you volumes when a portable PSP game from 2010 has more content, variety and a better plot than a 2015 AAA console + PC release.
>>721616682Emulation you dumb nigger
>>721616682Skip all of those and pretend 3 was the last game, don't ruin the series for yourself.
>>721616682Portable Ops? Inconsequential.Big Boss did some merc shit in South America, where he befriended a bunch of fellow soldiers and Kaz Miller, who would form the foundation of MSF. That's all you need to know.Peace Walker and fine details of its story are much more essential to making sense of V.
PO has one of the coolest MGS villains who BB gets the idea for Outer Heaven fromIt's also just fun to play aside from having to carry every recruit to the extraction point manually. Actually very similar to PW in gameplay, just worse obviously.
>>721626334>who BB gets the idea for Outer Heaven fromAnd you don't think this massively cheapens BB's character, and robs him of agency in his own story?
>>721626537The guy whose ideals and entire personality already totally revolve around another person's beliefs?No not really
>>721616682psp has a emulator for pcpeacewalker has been on the ps3 and other collections.
>>721626334>PO has one of the coolest MGS villains who BB gets the idea for Outer Heaven fromGene fucking sucks precisely for that reason. He's just Discount Big Boss that delivers Big Boss his own distinguishing motivations to him. It's the most lazy hackery in a series that was filled to the brim with lazy hackery after MGS3.
>>721616682mgsv was kojimas last good game
>>721626774Big Boss never came up with an original idea of his own in his entire life however
>>721616682Don't skip Peace Walker, it's grindy but it's good.Peace Walker is limited by the shitty PSP and V was supposed to remedy that but it ended up being worse somehow.
>>721616682>Both of them are currently unplayable on my only available gaming device(steam deck)you cant run ppsspp on your steam deck?
>>721626670Outer Heaven was Big Boss's creation, and a result of his belief that the life of warfighters wordwide should be improved somewhat. It's a logical result of his trauma of himself and The Boss being used like pawns.You retroactively attribute that idea to another character, and then complain that BB has no personality.
>>721616682both games are relevant to the game's STORY. STORY AND LORE ARE NOT EQUIVALENT. just saying, it pisses me off when retards conflate the two. anyway I'd say portable ops is fairly skippable, and peace walker is more relevant, but even peace walker isn't all that important either. all you need to know is that biggu bossu went on escapades here and there and did some stuff. in peace walker, he founded MSF and built metal gear zeke, which was commandeered by paz, and the subsequent destruction of mother base in ground zeroes takes place directly after peace walker. MGSV is, for all intents and purposes, peace walker 2. I recommend playing peace walker at least, it's a great game.
>>721627647He can have that belief independently and still get the idea for an operation like Outer Heaven from somewhere elseThe end result is different from what Gene had in mind anyway
>>721622284Ocelot references the events in one of the tapes in 5.
People are retarded. Portable OPs is a normal mgs game like 1,2,3 and 4. It has a linear story with human boss fights who you talk with after killing them. Unlike Peace Walker and V which is boring tedious crap with no proper boss fights.https://youtu.be/PXkgn3QUA2w
Portable OPs explains how Foxhound got started and Grey Fox backstory and where Big Boss got the money and idea to start MSF in Peace Walker
https://youtu.be/Ww8LaE5OSIs
https://youtu.be/s3YFspQA9t4
>>721616682one of the first lines in Peace Walker basically says to forget Portable Ops
>>721616682are you retarded it's insanely easy to emulate PSP games on a steamdeck
>>721616682Peacemaker leads directly into 5
The story in Peace Walker is way more anime weeb cringe than Portable Ops.
>>721616682Portable Ops has enough cool moments to warrant a playthrough if you liked other Metal Gear stuff before it even if it is a little rough. As a big fan of MGS3 I found it fun to play as well. It's marketed like other games that came out fitting the same chronological time frame of the series. You can rebind the controls in the game's options quite freely which can help with the otherwise rough feel of just-MGS3-on-PSP.Playing it after MGS3 and before PW it's kinda obvious why Snake is later on a reluctant but charismatic military leader right from the start with PW after the way he gets his hands dirty with that sorta business during PO. People say it's irrelevant but I thought it was a pretty clear step in hardening Big Boss for what he's become in Metal Gear 2, even if it isn't the most complicated story.
>>721630691Nothing in PW is as cringe as PO's butchering of Gray Fox.
>>721616682You can skip portable ops, but you should absolutely play Peace Walker. You won't know who a few of the characters are if you skip Peace Walker and lower specs aside it's a pretty good Metal Gear game, I played it on the original PSP when it came out and it blew me away how good it was.
>>721616682Pisswalker is even worse for the "lore" so skip both, and V
>>721616849>>721617407>pisswalker retards lying to OP to get him to play a shitty waste of time You do NOT need to waste time on Pisswalker to play V
>>721630794Pisswalker is infinitely more cringe than what PO does to Gray Fox's ""character"" (barely had one)
>Portable Ops>Was never ported?
>>721631137What did Yojimbo mean by this?
>>721627647>>You retroactively attribute that idea to another character, and then complain that BB has no personality.NTA but the way Portable Ops literally paints Big Boss as clearly naturally better at what Gene was trying to do, even though he wasn't thinking about it in the first place doesn't exactly make Big Boss look like a copycat with no personality. Instead, being forced to lead in tactics similar to the antagonists simply reveals Big Boss' inherent knack and potential for it because of the sort of charisma and experience he already holds. You can't say a character lacks features or something just because events external to himself end up revealing new traits about him to viewer and himself.
Guys! I found Zadornov!
>>721631452What are you talking about there isn't even a door there
>>721630891>>721630974>>721631059stop trying to make piss walker a thing lol.
>>721631582Pisswalker has been a thing longer than you've been alive, zoom zoom, and the game is pure piss into the mouth of any retard willing to kneel in front of Kojimbo
>>721631380>You can't say a character lacks features or something just because events external to himself end up revealing new traits about him to viewer and himself.These "external events" are I Can't Believe It's Not Big Boss trying to create I Can't Believe It's Not Outer Heaven. Which is the real issue. Portable Ops is just idea-starved trash. If Gene didn't make that apparent Null sure as fuck does. The story doesn't bother me nearly so much as the level design, though. That's the biggest issue with the game. It just feels like a sequence of repurposed PvP maps with similarly dull bosses.
>>721616682Peace Walker is essential. Port Ops was retconned out ("Let's leave that whole San... incident behind.")>Both are unplayable on my DeckNigga, download RetroArch, an .iso of Peace Walker and load the PPSSPP code with the .iso.TAH-DAH! 'Eace 'Alker on 'Eck. Then post 'Ick.
>>721632020>retroarchcringe just use standalone emulators
>>721632020>Peace Walker is essentialIt's basically MGS3 part 2. It's the direct continuation of what happened to Boss/ Snake after MGS3 and how he built a Merc org.
Peace Walker is essential if you get emotionally invested in the story. If that is the case then stop reading the thread and don't watch anything mgs v related.If not, then it's safe to skip.
>>721632818>Pisswalker>emotional investment Don't be retarded, simple as
>>721632020>brainrot retard post>LEL KOJIMBO TOLD ME PORTABLE OPS DOESNT MATTER AND IM A GOOD LITTLE FANBOY ECK ACK ECK ACKGood example of how Pisswalker is for total retards
>>721633526I love that this PO retard is still skulking the threads
>>721633842>I-I love that my p-personal boogeyman is...Shut the fuck up, autistic retard
>>721633436retard.
>>721623202>If the core game is not fun and COMPLETED without mods, it's by the very definition shit.This, while true, is such a retarded thing to say.The point of the mods is to IMPROVE the game. To make it not-shit.By saying that it's shit if it you have to mod it is to ignore the whole point of the recommended mods.>imagine a car that cannot be refueled>someone suggests that you could make it so that you can refuel it>NO ITS SHIT
>>721634272Projecting Pisswalkerfag who enjoys warm urine from a shrimpy Jap down its throat
>>721616682Kojima hates this game and tries to avoid 99% of it to the point the only thing canon from it is explained in MGSVTPP like it's nothing.Also, the game does some dumb and strange retcons to GreyFox's character
>>721634703Can't retcon things that aren't properly established and Pisswalker does nothing but damage to MGS1 (only game that actually matters)
>>721634374>seething beaner doesn't want to experience loss at the start of ground zeroes>probably didn't even consider it, too focused on trying to "dominate" on the internet>resorts to scatological humorThe average I played it on youtube gamer.
>>721635110>beaner Just say spic you stupid pussy. Pisswalkerfags continue to be retarded and gay.>I c-cried when I saw the GZ trailer!!Gay, lame, retarded.
>>721634703>Also, the game does some dumb and strange retcons to GreyFox's characterGood thing Piss Walker and V don't do anything like that
>>721635489>making real arguments against Pisswalkerfags Waste of time, they are indoctrinated fanboys who think Kojima made every game by himself
>>721618337It's not Lenin imagery
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