FEEL THE POWER OF MY dynasty warriors 3 remaster
>>721616965Its... Its...
>>721616965Sovless demake
>>721617095got low expectations, will probably tone down the women since that the direction they took in Dynasty Warriors Origins>"Dynasty Warriors Origins focused on balanced sex-appeal that doesn’t compromise female characters’ roles and backgrounds, says series producer"^ corp speak for toning down the women. also:https://archive.ph/Lrs3G
>>721617095If it's the same game as origins but with 3's stages slapped on it, then it be suckybut if they tried to approach the og game as much as possible, namely the badass peons that can combo you to do death if you aren't careful, then it will be decentespecially if they keep the original english dub
This genuinely doesn't make any sense.It's not a "remaster" in the first place, but a modern DW game with DW3 content.
Empires
Fuck the Wu.
>>721619443There is no DW3 Empires unfortunately
>>721616965I don't like how it looks. OG is better. All these remakes focus way too much on making shit look "real" and compromise any distinct style the originals had.
>>721619474they will make it now
>>721620029They could, but it will be modern DW dressed as 3 so what's the point?
>>721619453Guan yu got what he had comin shu whore.
>>721620090maybe it will still be a good game, who knows>>721620175so did Wu when JIN buttfucked them
>>721620229>so did Wu when JIN buttfucked themI mean, yeah. The Sun family very much has a fallen hero vibe about them. It's like if Game of Thrones ended with the Starks becoming the main villain.
Memories... Home..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsKkQaik0n8&list=RDNsKkQaik0n8&start_radio=1
>>721620290>>The Sun family very much has a fallen hero vibe about them.if you read between the lines, you will see how opportunistic they werethey really ruined the cao-liu rivalry, ugh
>Music that is forever burned into your mind:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blVCdQ1-Ecs&list=RDblVCdQ1-Ecs&start_radio=1
>>721620423For me it's the briefing themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foN3LZfMypc
I am still ANGRY about capcom snubbing Basara on it's 20th anniversary.
3 kingdoms as a setting is interesting but all of the games set in it are chinkshit (duh)There should be a 3 kingdoms gothicslop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2uqLQLxAcII don't see what's so good about this so->0:15Yep I'm thinking it's peak
>>721620373>if you read between the lines, you will see how opportunistic they wereThat's true for most major warlords. Liu Bei is frankly the worst offender but everybody pretends he isn't because he was able to get some support from the people and had the same last name as the Emperor. Sun Jian was probably the one genuinly loyal guy fighting for the coalition. Sun Ce was less loyal but it's frankly staggering he lasted as long as he did under Yuan Shu and in the end Yuan Shu basically handed him every excuse to call it quit in a term that everybody would view as totally morally acceptable. Sun Quan was fairly opportunist but he was, seemingly, at least somewhat devoted to his desire to maintain Jiangdong Independence and most of his opponents other than MAYBE Liu Baio and Shi Xie were really no better.
>>721620843>Liu Bei is frankly the worst offender but everybody pretends he isn'teh, I 've seen a lot of people online call him a double crossing traitor>because he was able to get some support from the people gotta give it to Liu, he didn't massacre any cities, of course he'd be loved by the peasantry>and Shi Xie were really no better.My underrated nigga Shi Xie...
I only know the lore from the Warriors games, but the Sun always felt like "I am also in this game" to me.
>>721622059you should see the 2010 adaptation, in which they just evaporate after yi ling
>>721622059It's what it is. It might be called Three Kingdoms but the plot is really Shu vs Wei.
>>721620979>gotta give it to Liu, he didn't massacre any cities, of course he'd be loved by the peasantryHe was a very self serving man but it's hard to say where "Understands the value of good PR" ends and "Genuinely cares about the people" starts even at the best of times.>My underrated nigga Shi Xie...He did good. Still well liked in Vietnam.
>>721622059That's the case for most Three Kingdom adaptations, sadly. Funny considering in history Wu and Wei were really the only relevant players.
>>721622431>starts even at the best of times.well, he cared more than Cao cao and sun quan, at least
>>721622483the shu faction just attracts people, it's the safe option to root for
>>721620843Fuck off, it's BENEVOLENCE from here on.#greenonlygangs#blueandredgangsneednotapply
>>721622504I would argue Sun Quan might have cared more considering his actual motivation. Main question generally being how true he was to that motivation. Cao Cao meanwhile was motivated by actually trying to fix the mess the han Dynasty had become, even if that did also involve making sure his family had a permanent seat at the table.Liu Bei was just in it for himself. Even his claimed motivation of restoring the han dynasty really served nobody other than himself.
>>721622620Eat my wife
>>721622648>>I would argue Sun Quan might have cared more considering his actual motivation.He did massacre a city though
>>721622620>Zhao Yun did all that heroic shit only to have Liu Bei slams his kid retardedNever stops being funny.
>>721622564I think with some minor changes most people would honestly find it easier to root for Wu, frankly. Especially in the west it's hard to understand why restoring the obviously bad and corrupt dynasty is meant to be good. Meanwhile in actual motivation Wu are basically the Starks of Game of Thrones.
>>721616965why 3 man doesn't 4 and 5 just have... more?guess it was the one people were most nostalgic for
>>721616965>remake of a classic>but with the gameplay of the newest oneI am genuinely confusedWhere are they even going with this? Isn't the series already a remake of each other from one title to the next?
>>721622737Dunno about that, the Targs have a lot of fans too, and the situation isn't very disimilarbtw fuck you for making me remember ASOIAF and the fat man not writing...
>>721622695>He did massacre a city thoughHe also cleaned up a lot of barbarian tribes in south China.He was motivated by the interests of the people of Jiangdong. Not really North China, and even his relationship with Jing province was a bit more complex.
>>721622823yes I know what he did, it's just that when compared to Liu's "love for the people", Sun Quan will rank below him (in normalfag morality) just for that aloneat least in my eyes (I am not a shufag by any means, I see through the Shuhan ploys)
>>721622821>Dunno about that, the Targs have a lot of fans too, and the situation isn't very disimilarTo be sure. The main difference though is that, for all of her flaws, Daenerys actually has a very clean claim on the throne and most of her opponents are leading the country into ruin. Liu Bei's claim on the throne is frankly laughable, and he's largely going up against a guy who for all of his flaws did genuinly manage to get the government of China into a working shape again. >btw fuck you for making me remember ASOIAF and the fat man not writing...Yeah, I know. Frankly, I kind of hope ASOIAF ends like the Three Kingdoms. But I doubt it will.
>>721622896I find it hard to really argue somebody loves the people when they are trying to restore a fairly, at least among the peasantry, unpopular dynasty mostly out of self interest. Especially in the modern day it's probably much easier to portray Liu Bei as morally questionable. Fittingly, Liu Bei honestly reminds me a lot of Liu Bang. Certainly a man of some virtue but most people tend to agree most of his seeming popularity among the peasants was largely self serving.
>>721622979>and he's largely going up against a guy who for all of his flaws did genuinly manage to get the government of China into a working shape again.And made the central provinces into actually livable territories once again, as they have been ravaged during the yellow turban rebellion and all the infighting later while also being fair to the commoners, but yah, Cao Cao is definitely the villain...> Daenerys actually has a very clean claim on the throneActually, I don't know if the Baratheons can claim precedent from the dance of dragons about her not being a male, but yes, her claim has merit. Liu Bei was almost literally "trust me I am related to the Han, for real", I don't think they ever proved he was actually related to the imperial family in history, and even if he was, he was so far removed from it, it shouldn't have mattered, there were dozens of Lius with a closer relationship.But Bei managed to endure...
Samurai warrriorssss bros........We eating nothing again
>>721623206go play 5 again
>>721623102>I find it hard to really argue somebody loves the people when they are trying to restore a fairly, at least among the peasantry, unpopular dynasty mostly out of self interest.which is why I said that I see through their tricks, lots of people online defend Liu Bei by saying "ah, he didn't kill peasants", but he literally did so through his actions, as he built up his own kingdom, which directly lead to some of th ebloddiest battles in history.But yeah he didn't kill civillians directly, so he's glazed>Fittingly, Liu Bei honestly reminds me a lot of Liu Bang.Yeah, they are pretty similar, although historically only Bang threw his children
>>721622059Princess is cute though so I don't mind.
>>721623170>but yah, Cao Cao is definitely the villain...Honestly, I often wonder if Cao Cao had just totally smashed all of his opponents if he would be remembered as a Emperor Aurelius esque figure. >But Bei managed to endure...I mean, whatever you want to say about his claim, motive, or care for the people around him. His borderline psychotic determination and ability to crawl back from defeats that crippled men far more conventionally talented than him is absolutely worthy of at least some admiration. It's also the one trait that is typically lost in trying to glorify him, ironically.
>>721622431>The good guys are actually...le bad!That's so edgy my lil bro
I like 3 and its probably the one I spent the most time on especially since I played the fuck out of the demo but why didn't they do dw4 instead?
>>721616965>Only one playable fag twink mc, a silent main character that you can't customize or change at all.>Only campaign story mode, Not a single side mode at all, bye free/conquest modes.>Incomplete, lazy and rushed, ends at Chibi, prolly future stuff will be paid DLC (surprise they ARE)>No co-op, not even split screen, god forbid anything multiplayer>voiceless customless protagonist so fujos can selfinsert as a fag>can't even play as any of the other iconic characters for a full mission>MASSIVE weapon downgrade, from 90 weapons you can now only have 9 unlockable types, no unlockable characters, trash jewels, & retarded skill tree system >there's clearly full sets for War Fan, Club and Throwing Knives, but only available to the enemies themselves. Cut content.>IGN gave it 9/10 only because the reviewer is a troon and having homos is his hidden fetish>Guan Yu played by a nigger who isn't even trying to hide that he's a nigger so his english sounds like it's one millisecond from going full ghetto trash>they added "bonding" scenes despite the fact you are a male MC and there are mainly only male generals.>granted there are what, two or three females in the game so yeah, game is very very blatantly gay.>Despite the game having most male generals, they doubled down and removed most of the women.>THERE'S ONLY FOUR WOMEN IN THE WHOLE GAME; Diao Chan, Yueying, Zhenji and SSX>fag fujo shit in my musou>/eagg/ would never approve this pozzed piece of shit game.>literally SW5'd all over again>Main story that stops right after red cliff battle>"Do_with _ for _ times" side quest that requires you to use weapons you don't like>Grindy mini-combats on the world map just to bloat your playtime for no reason>Mary Sue male MC where everyone even the bad guys immediately wet their pants the moment they meet you>Cringe ass mystical assassins creed cult backstory that nobody gives a shit about>$80
>>721623382She is Liu Bei's whore.If you want cute Wu girls we have the Qiaos
>Cao Cao is LE EVILSo tired of this sandal propaganda.
>>721623445Liu Bei truly was a cockroach, and he was doing great till Fan castle, really. Then everything that could go wrong, went wrong, in such a manner than I can't help but feel sad about all the striving and surviving he did earlier.>Honestly, I often wonder if Cao Cao had just totally smashed all of his opponents if he would be remembered as a Emperor Aurelius esque figure. Most definitely
>>721623494I hate to be edgy but in real history, especially in bloody civil wars like the Three Kingdom, there really isn't such a thing as a good or bad guy. At best it's pretty hard to defend the like of Dong Zhou or Sun Hao but I've seen people do both.>>721623308>But yeah he didn't kill civillians directly, so he's glazedIt's pretty weird morality. Granted, I can't exactly fault him for not just rolling over and letting Cao Cao kill him but after a certain point it's hard to argue he didn't cause a lot of harm for a pretty debatable cause.>Yeah, they are pretty similar, although historically only Bang threw his childrenThey also both had a guy whose name was Liang as one of their main advisors and strategists. Not particularly noticeable, but I always found it funny.
>I see through the Shuhan ploys
>>721623571I don't give a fuck most girls have had like 3 different Wang Dongs in them throughout because for some reason everyone in the Ro3K wants to fuck married women.
>>721623494>the good guy is way more nuanced than most people say>NOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT HE WAS A GOOD BOYdumbo
>>721623682>Then everything that could go wrong, went wrong, in such a manner than I can't help but feel sad about all the striving and surviving he did earlier.It's both sad and kind of funny. I can't help but think of Azula in Avatar the Last airbender going "Don't flatter yourself you were never even a player" looking at how quickly the whole thing collapsed in on itself.
>Legitimately scared off an army with bluff and sheer smug aura as he plays music by his lonesomeHow did this motherfucker get away with it
>>721623836Fog of war.
>>721623836Had high INT but the highest stat is actually CHA
>>721623836By it being fiction
>>721623836Only worked because Sima Yi was a schizo
>>721623742Conquest is more fun when the land belongs to somebody you know.
>>721623836It's easy when when you're an aura incarnate and your opponent is a schizo
>>721624000To be fair, it was implied part of the reason SIma yi was reluctant to kill him was because he realized he would be out of a job if he actually crushed Shu.
>>721623692>It's pretty weird moralityAll the morality went out the window with the Xiaoting campaign, and I think that's a point made in the book too. He never had the making of a varsity emperor.
>wojacks instead of arguments
Talking about Wu: Historical Lu Meng honestly sounds like a mary sue self insert. Complete with him dying young and tragically and everybody crying.
>>721624270You can't argue with Shu. They don't accept logic and facts.
>>721623812>and kind of funny.Expert military commander ordering the army to stay cool under the shades of the trees, when he faced again the faction most famous for performing a well thought out fire attack against a much larger force....
>>721623836Rolled a nat 20 deceptionI really liked Zhuge in the novel, man
>>721624315>Complete with him dying youngI liked how the 2010 show implied Sun Quan poisoned him
>>721618440Origins was pretty gay. all the dialogue sounded like the start of a porno.>>721616965if they're changing the gameplay, art and dialogue. what part of it is DW3?
>>721624473I prefer it over Guan Yu's ghost killing him even if it's kind of funny in a historical context. Sun Quan literally dug a hole in his wall so he could check on his health. Guy was weird.
>>721624528Guan Yu's ghost meeting that old monk who told him enough is enough you killed too many was pretty interesting
>>721618440I don't remember DW3 having that many women to begin with, there's Diaochan, Zhejiang, and SEX, and I don't think any of them besides Zhenji wear anything particularly revealing in the original
>>721624473Yeah, it's a pretty good progression from younger Sun Quan being scared about Zhou Yu usurping him or otherwise disrespecting his authority.
YOU FORGOT THE QIAOS and NU WA
>>721624680There's also >>721624726Yeah that.
>>721624710too bad that scene in which he implied the poisoning ot Lu Xun was also literally the last scene that involved anything Wu related...
>>721624710It's weird how Sun Quan rarely has a good character arc when he has such a obvious one just looking at his actual life.
>>7216246803 also had the Qiaos and Zhurong. 4 added Yueying, but PS2 era Yueying was pretty conservative compared to even her Origins version smuggling meat buns.
Yueying my always top tier in the games waifu...
>>721624791>too bad that scene in which he implied the poisoning ot Lu Xun was also literally the last scene that involved anything Wu related...I would love to see a show go into the whole clusterfuck involving the crown princes and Sun Luban.
>>721624916make the princes cute effeminate men so the women will also watch it and you have an instant success
While I prefer Samurai Warriors a bit more, my favorite guys were Wei Yan and that one fat fuck with the hammer.
>>721623836I'm a lorelet, is this the guy from that clip who kills a guy by talking mad shit to his face?
>>721625075yes
>>721624836There's no way the Qiaos will cause problems but Zhurong is definitely up for debate, then again Origins was their attempt at a more serious story so maybe covering them up was exclusive to that game, also it may have been released 7 years ago but Zhruongs last appearance showed more skin than her DW3 appearance
>>721623519wrong game bro
>>721624791Unfortunately, the focus of the show after the deaths of Liu Bei and Cao Cao is Zhuge Liang vs Sima Yi, so Cao Pi's invasion of Wu and all the stuff he does that can't be tied to Cao Cao or Sima Yi gets overlooked.>>721620506Didn't their Sanada spinoff absolutely tank? Meanwhile Koei's Spirit of Sanada was pretty much the pinnacle of historical Musou games when it was released.
It always bothered me how Wu is usually just kinda there, like they just totally lose any relevance by the end of the story, which is a shame since I've always found their story interesting
>>721625287>Unfortunately, the focus of the show after the deaths of Liu Bei and Cao Cao is Zhuge Liang vs Sima Yi, so Cao Pi's invasion of Wu and all the stuff he does that can't be tied to Cao Cao or Sima Yi gets overlooked.I always needed a good SHITING adaptation
>>721625287The Sanada spinoff was an asset flip made to ride off the popularity of a popular show about Sanada that was airing at the time, they probably didn't lose a lot if it did flop
>>721616965>make origins in their own engine that runs like butter despite thousands of enemies on screen>remaster 3 in fucking UE5 instead, gonna run like ass and have way less enemies on screenwhat the FUCK were they thinking?
>>721625336You have Dongwu (and the migration of Jin to the south) to thank for the south being developed in any way
If wu didn’t betray shu and stole jing, shu would have been able to strike hanzhong and up. Capture the central plains and restore the han for another 500 years. We should have shamed the sun family alot more in history.
>>721625416True, but did Capcom still have their>It needs to sell TEN BAZILLION copies on day 1 or it's a failure!mentality by then?
>>721625287Basara 4 also tanked and sumeragi super tanked, the series was in the grave long before that shitty spinoff
>>721625092Nice.
>>721616965i mean it could be neat with units that don't fade in and out all the time, further draw distance and maybe some qol changes like how to get on a horse and shit but i fear they changed the gameplay to be the same modern garbage where the average soldier isn't agressive and doesn't pose a threat in the slightest while you mow down billions with interchangeable weapons... also they will surely smuggle in more faggot designs, for whatever reason they just can't help themselves with this crapthe only good games in the series were 3/4/5, maybe this could bring them back into that direction but i have no faith in koei and omega force
>>721623836I like his rap career.
>>721622262>>721622483>>721622564That's because the attributed author, Luo Guanzhong, used the writings from a Shu Three Kingdoms politician, Chen Shou, as a basis for his novel. It's no surprise Liu Bei gets revised into being a hero, instead of a warlord.Taking Romance's portrayal of Liu Bei at face value would be like reading War and Peace and believing that Prince Bagration was a military genius.
>>721622059it is what it is, Wu is just the counterbalance as to why Shu and Wei dont go launch all their forces at each other. which is weiord because Wu is rich with all the South East Asia trade
I'm surprised they didn't go all in on Origins.
>>721625287Basara Yukimura-den bombed because it was a super cheap cash-in obviously made in a rush just to compete with SoS. It fucked the whole formula and several characters, had next to zero content, the story was incomprehensible garbage, etc.Still no excuse not to release the others on PC or something, but capcom was probably looking for an excuse to throw the series in the trash anyway since its not SF or RE
For me it's Xiaoqiao running around being a brat and slapping people with giant fans.I'm sure this is 100% historically accurate but chinks would never admit it.
>>721625567Dynasty Warriors is Koei Tecmo, not Capcom
>>721625591he also did the same thing, but with a letter
>>721625604Origins was harder than 3, the peons were more aggressove and the officers were all dangerous if you fucked around.The director is taking the series in a good direction after the casualization of the games since 5
Zhang Liao best Tiger
>>721625761Don't forget the two Maos, the editors, who were also massive Liufags (although I don't mind, the notes they left are very entertaining to read)
>>721622059Wu do nothing post Chibi and fail miserably in any offensive action against Wei, Shu/Wei actually engage one another so get all the focus>>721625761The novel does plenty of Liu Bei downplaying as well, Bowangpo goes to Zhuge instead of him and Yiling is made to be way more unreasonable than it actually was. You have to realize Luo is trying to write a good story at the end of the day
>>721625979Origins was the first one in a long while where I got a game over screen that wasn't caused by some retarded general running to his death on the other side of the map.
>>721626085Shu propaganda all the way through. Makes for a good story though.>>721626103>luo is trying to write a good storySure, that's why it's called 'Romance', not 'A History of'. The problem is folks take it at face value, so sometimes a reminder is good.
>>721625826>I'm sure this is 100% historically accurateThat, and her sister being literally a magical girl according to newer DW.
Dong Zhuo did nothing wrong
>>721626218I very rarely see people take it as face value, what's more common is people being absurdly critical of it because they read a archlich article and are in the peak of their novel backlash phase
>>721625979Peons being tough in Origins in contingent on officers being around to command them to use their formation attacks. Without an officer around, peons have outright lower stats if they're not outright fleeing. It's still different from 3 where majors and bodyguards were mass produced mini officers and could rough you up pretty badly, but I will agree that Origins is a massive step up in difficulty from 7 and 8.>>721626130I got a game over during Yellow Turban Rebellion. The only other times that has happened to me was with Strikeforce and DW2.
>>721626370Dong the benevolent
>>721625979>The director is taking the series in a good direction
>>721625505Or, more likely, Wei would have devastated them and taken Jing.Do you really think the Liu Bei that flunked the invasion against Wu would have been able to survive what Wei threw at Wu?
>>721626130>>721626413I wasn't expecting Zhang to be an Archwizard and summing meteors, He really did throw me for a loop as well.
>>721626475I was about to ask why the dialogues sounded like porn but I get it now.
>>721626371I mostly just did people did more with Wu, frankly. Most of the most interesting stuff of the era gets overlooked to focus on the Wei and Shu conflict despite the fact it's basically just a glorified stalemate.
Oh no, a dyke!
>>721626475I'm partway into Origins, do we ever get a time skip or does Guan stay a 20 something guy with nice eyes and a beard of a 50 year old?
>>721626567But all girls in DW are straight
>>721626489>Game goes to great lengths to establish that the Yellow Turban 'magic' is just hallucinogens and sleights of hand that you can turn off at will using your Spidey Sense>Zhang Jiao starts summoning boulders and lightning and your Spidey Sense gives you jack shit to work with10/10 troll move.
>>721626475oh no, he's hot...
>>721626608Sun Shang Xiang early on was obviously a dyke considering the way she dressed.
Dynasty Warriors Warring Kingdoms when?
>>721626573The oath brothers get new outfits at the start of chapter 3. Ziluan gets a new outfit at the start of chapter 4, but outside of pre rendered cutscenes you can swap back to the old outfit.
>>721627015But she falls for Liu Bei
>>721627016Warring kingdoms could be cool but sadly it's a bit lacking in characters outside the Qin side.
>>721627075In DW 2 and 3, and even normal 4, she only "Falls" for Liu Bei insofar that playing Liu Bei involves killing Sun Shang Xiang.
THE ENEMY FAN
>>721627015Stop trying to gaslight tomboys into dykes you vile jew
>>721627015>doesn't dress like a slut>hmm yes this is a homoSSX was the cutest in 3-5, you got brainrot
>>721627279https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY8Fm3vgT6k&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F
>>721627351>SSX was the cutest in 3-5,You are correct there.
I hope that they make a Samurai Warriors Empires one day that is similar to the Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires with the ability of being a servant and all that shit
>>721627279>>721627351>>721627438I really liked her Dynasty Tactics look. I hope these costumes for her and Lu Bu are still in the XL content for this remake
Brothers' Cohen biopic about Yuan Shu
>>721627574For some reason Koei is weirdly reluctant to do that. See also Nobunaga's ambition only having one officer game even though Awakening feels desgined from the ground up to support officer play.
>they're keeping co-opCan't wait to tell my bro, time to relive our entire high school career
>>721627663Maybe it's the size of the roster problem? But then again, yeah - they did do officer mode in Nobunaga's Ambition that one time. I don't know
I think Ryofu's daughter is pretty cute.
>>721626475Yes, Origins is the best warriors game in a decade>but I got filtered by fan service!
Will they keep the strange dialogs in free mode when you pick characters who would appear as enemies or similar?
>>721628162it barely had any competition
>>721628046I keep waiting for them announce Awakening Ascension and it's just not happening.
>>721628115My waifu since Tactics 2Giving her the wheel halberd from 6 was brilliant, makes her absolutely perfect in 8 and 9
>>721628162I wish we could make girl Zilluan. But then again you'd probably get mounted by Liu and Cao in like 20 minutes with how hot they are for you.
>>721628253and a very high tier character too
>>721628295what if I could make her very tall and have these manlets attempt to hit on me only for me to mock them
>>721628295Girl Zilluan would be the most shoujo shit this side of Blue Lion Three Houses.
>>721628295>Dong Zhuo doesn't get assassinated because Lu Bu is too busy railing Femluan to care about Diaochan's bullshit
>>721628420Isn't Guan like the second tallest in the series?
>>721628490>the dong died because some other's man dong couldn't be kept in check
>>721628162that's not a high bar
>>721628596anon never said nothing about Guan...
>>721628687Original pic was Guan so I assumed we were talking about him.
>>721628596IIRC, height wise it goes Meng Huo > Lu Bu > Guan Yu. That being said, Guan Yu's daughter is only 5'3", which makes her the same size as the Qiaos and Wang Yuanji. I don't understand how Yinping is apparently so popular.
>>721628490It's kind of funny how many people would survive their tragic fate if they kept their dick to themselves or in their own actual wife.
Looking good. Colorful, clear, keeping the designs of the original, and it looks like the movesets have all been kept too which means classic charge system.
>>721628831ssx thighs holy fuck
why do they keep making these fucking 3 kingdoms games while water margin gets fucking nothing?
>>721628490More like >war starts out like a decade early because every major leader wants to fuck the ninja bird girl and are vying for her favor
>>721628831I wonder if they will do a remixed soundtrack like the tracks they did in Origins.
>>721628993Water Margin is like 50% re enactment of ROTK anyway.
>>721628993Everyone at Koei are devout maoists so don't want to promote capitulation
>>721629163perfect then?!
>>721628784she's cute
>>721628993>>721629163Isn't there a character in Water Margin who's an explicit Guan Yu knockoff?
>>721629306yes, and????
>>721629306>Lü Fang, a native of Tanzhou (around present-day Changsha, Hunan), usually wears a suit of red armour and a silk belt over a flowery robe as well as a knot-like headdress topped with a long feather. He rides a red horse and fights with a ji, resembling Lü Bu of the Three Kingdoms era whose horse is named Red Hare for its colour and whose weapon called "Sky Piercer" (方天畫戟) was a ji. Due to his many similarities with Lü Bu, Lü Fang is nicknamed "Little Marquis of Wen",[a] the Marquis of Wen being Lü Bu's highest official title.
I like almost everyone is a piece of shit in water margin, while you have to lie to yourself and pretend that rat liu bei is a good guy in rotk
>>721629530I like how*
>>721628295hasn't Koei been invaded by fujos and fudanshis and the put all that shit in when the lead wasn't looking?
>>721628784Man, her mom must have been absolute midget tier. What a waste.
Are y'all niggas ready to take out those Wei faggots at Wu Zhang Plains again?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ6im2LlnwU
>>721630104If they ever extended Origins to WZP, they're definitely remixing Sacred Ground.
Don't mind me. Just shilling the most kino GMV the series has ever had.https://youtu.be/tZRxuYfl3Wc?si=CAraj8atL7lM5bgB
>>721618440Origins does what every japanese create a character game does and constructs the entire game around every living entity in existence wanting to either dick ride or literally fuck you.DW3 should be fine.
>>721630318Holy shit it's long
>>721630423sounds like a gacha game, did they ever try and make a rotk gacha before?
MY AMBITION CANNOT BE STOPPED
>>721627160Liu Bei got his 4th weapon by killing SSX in Yi Ling in DW3 kek
>>721630525They've made several ROTK (the strategy series) gachas before, yes. As for DW specifically, we've had Blast and Apuri, the former is already shut down and the latter is still going but Japanese only, I believe.
>>721630701which rotk character would you guys waste your life savings on if you were retarded?
>>721630895Beach Guan Yu.
Seems that this is their answer to the fans who want the full playable cast. Origins will be the single-character main series going forward, while the rest of us may be getting remakes instead
>>721630895My perfect and beautiful wife Cai Wenji.
>>721631219For some reason Lu Bu reminds me of Inspector Zenigata in this shot.
are they changing how the games played? because if so they can fuck off with this demake
>>721630895Xiao Qiao before she got married to Zhou Yu
>>721631392Aside from more dudes on screen, the combat looks intact
>>721630895I'd burn down a city for Zilluan.
>>721620838This game was nothing but banger after banger as far as music goes.
>>721631392Looks like its based off 3/4/5 inside origins engine, i think they'll try to be faithful while keeping modern QoL stuff like being able to turn mid combo.
>>721631392That's the weirdest thing about it. Keep in mind DW games all follow the same story and all, the difference between the games in the series is gameplay and how the various game modes play out. So making a DW "remake" that changes the gameplay is virtually no different than simply making DW10
>>721630895Sun Luban.
>>721631530https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SwgldWucqUWe're coming home...
>>721630104Wei version is way more fun. Charging the big fort at the end and punching Zhuge Liang to death was always cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXnOZI8Wdn0&list=RDmXnOZI8Wdn0&start_radio=1dw3s soundtrack was literally perfect
>>721631439>>721631549>the action system of “DYNASTY WARRIORS 3” has evolved to create an even more exhilarating experiencethen what do they mean by this? i don't want it "evolved", dw6-9 suck ass
>>721631848DW8 was great and I will not stand for any slander of it in this thread, junior.
>>721631549That's really all I want. Though if they DID do more I Would fix some of the weirder stages. I have no clue who thought Hefei castle was a good idea.
It is strange.I assumed it would just be a graphic overlay like NG2, but the increase in not only troops on screen, but they are clearly not grouped into the 5-man squads they used to be. I can't see the minimap, but the stages also clearly have a lot more elevation variance where the original was almost all flat plains.But at the same time, the movesets and musou attacks are the exact same as DW3, meaning the charge system is back.So this is some strange hybrid between Origins and DW3. I'm very curious to see what else is going on under the hood.
>>721631771>DW 3 soundtrack>Actually just DW2 soundtrack100% both DW 2 and 3 basically ensured I hear Yellow Storm and Jump Onto the Battlefield every time I close my eyes.
>>721631848DW6 is worth playing to me just because the stages are freaking amazing. It feels like they actually tried to do what they wanted to do in DW 2 and 3 but now with the technology to pull it off. 7 feels like a almost comedic step back. >>721631941It's fun but rather easy.
>>721623494Reality must be edgy because that's just how it is, dickhead.
>>721631219I remember playing 4 with my friends and not letting them play their CaC’s. To me they just weren’t as cool and stuck out.
>>721632215The created characters looked like crap until the PS3 era games. But then that was when Koei started nickel and diming parts for CAW parts.
>>721632043>its all just dynasty warriors 2 son-ENTERhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi9LrptyyqQ&list=RDFi9LrptyyqQ&start_radio=1
>>721630318I've never seen a GMV ever before..
>>7216321306 giving the ability to literally go anywhere on the stage if you could get a horse to jump high enough was fucking awesome. No invisible walls, just jump right into the river and swim across, or jump-cancel climb right up the side of a mountain. The stages were also beautiful to look at, I remember one of them against Yuan Shu having perfect morning mist that seemed to be right out of some Chinese painting.It's such a shame that the Renbu system had to completely cripple the game's potential, because in all other areas it was a massive leap from the PS2 entries.
>>721632332I mean, most of the new music is classic. Arena is great. Like Wei Hefei theme. And, yeah, this one is probably the best Nanmam theme.
>>721632014Since Sho is involved i wonder if he's trying to do everything he couldn't due to hardware limits?
>>721632432The Renbu system is the weak point. Though I often find it pretty easy to ignore during officer duels. Though those were still better in SW 2. >because in all other areas it was a massive leap from the PS2 entries.Yeah. Outside of story 7 was also a pretty big step back. Even graphically the game just looked worse somehow.
I fucking love how the longer you actually get to know the actual history of RotK, it genuinely seems more and more and MORE like Shu were the criminal scum monsters who prolonged warfare for decades and are responsible for the losses of thousands of lives in the end.Lies, belligerence, child rape, psychopathic murder, nepotism, eunuchs and failure are their legacy and they are STILL treated like heroes to many. Its fucking unreal.
>>721632432Agreed. It also is the one that has no definitive version to play yet.>PS3 version is the original one>PS2 version has more unique characters and stories to play but the reduced resolution sucks ass>Empires somewhat fixed the Renbu system by not making them fall down over time which retrospectively make the previous versions of the game suck even morewhich is why I think 6 is the one that desperately needs a Remaster/Remake the most
>>721632580the weapon system in 7 pisses me off but the rock paper scissors shit in 8 is worse in my opinion
>>721632580DW7 feels like a different series at times (that fucking turret section for Shu chibi), DW next is much better and the real sequel just a shame its vita only,
>>721632593It's easy to root for the underdog. Most people are still more fond of Xiang Yu than Liu Bang(Who, granted, wasn't a saint either) even if everybody knows he was a massive dickhead.
>>721632580DW7 and 8 looked like mud. The ridiculous glowing effects on literally everything did not help at all. They were just dull games not only to look at, but also to play.DW7 had the million clones, the weapon switch bullshit corner cutting, the shitty mission mode, and the super drawn out Jin campaign which was a total waste of time.Then 8 used the rock paper scissors shit that made every fucking officer encounter just a matter of switching to the other weapon and spamming that stupid rush attack to kill them with no resistance.Both of them were way too linear, with annoying "objectives" meaning you had to play every stage exactly the same with no variation, just so you could see their stupid setpieces in the order they wanted you to.
>>721632593I don't care they're cool and liu bei is a nice guy, don't know why you care honestly
>>721632697A proper 6 remake that fixes the gameplay flaws but keeps the soundtrack and fantastic stage design would be great. A remake that adds more stages/storylines as well would probably be the definitive DW game.
>>721632697I tried 6E via the PS3 emulator a while back, and it blew 8E out of the water for me. >>721632802I just wish Next didn't have the silly RNG region power up system in the non story conquest mode. That system could screw you over through no fault of your own. Twice I lost a campaign without even fighting a single battle because the RNG fucked me that badly.
>>721632697I'm pretty sure 6 was Sho's baby so I do expect him to bring it back soon and redeem it if this 3 remaster sells. Probably needs to prove the concept with a safe bet like 3 before he can greenlight it.
>>721622820>Where are they even going with this? Isn't the series already a remake of each other from one title to the next?So they don't have to develop DW10. This way they can slowly update 100+ playable characters with new models and animations while using the "well, they weren't in THAT game" excuse.
Quick, say something, the very rare, nice about DW9.
>>721633101Does the Eight Gates formation actually look like that in the final game?
>>721633101It made the Chinese dub available worldwide.
>have fun square square triangle combo style fighting system to run around and whack a mole with>ruin it with renbu>ruin samurai warriors 4 with the triangle spam dash attackswhy cant they just fucking leave it alone
>>721633101yuanji tiddies
>>721633101The designs are the best the series has ever had, the music is god tier, i like alot of the potrayals, much stuff they try to adapt, the combat is actually fun once you understand (the game is terrible at explaining it to you). I honestly do admire it a little due to just how ambitious it is despite koei having nowhere near the resources for it
>>721632876Yes, but DW8XLCE is also up there with Hyrule Warriors DE as the most bang for your buck out of any single Musou title.
>>721633101Photo Mode is genuinely fun to mess around with.>>721633185It does, but you can just easily plow through the formation instead of there being actual barrier like in Origins.
>>721633101Xin Xianying's design is 10/10.
>>721616965synthetic man said it best, no reason to remaster a dynasty warrior game, they're already all the same, it's like remastering FIFA 2014
>>721633227Dash attacks were them trying to salvage how fucking old those SW movesets were at that point
>>721622820>>but with the gameplay of the newest oneWe see brief snippets of musous and it has an Origins style camera, it's not really easy to actually gauge what the gameplay is like just yet. Especially seeing as they're using 1:1 animations with more effects.
>>721633227Because the series kept getting ripped to shreds in reviews because of it.Very few people understood what the Musou games even were, and started comparing them to Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden in terms of action games instead of recognizing that they were battlefield crisis management games. Even Koei seemed to forget that part and started trying to remarket it as the "1 vs 100000000" genre around DW7.Origins has finally remembered what the genre is about, thankfully.
>>721633285Judging a game's value on sheer volume of hours of busywork is a terrible metric, you have turned what is supposed to be a fun hobby into a second job
>>721632014Was there a bigger character upgrade in Origins than Zhang Jiao?
>>7216328767 and 8 are only worth playing their Empires versions. Even then, 8E is piss easy even if you do a fresh start on Chaos if you know what you're doing because there's so many ways to break the game.
>>721633450from what I can tell they have their old strings back but with souped up charge attacks... so I'm guessing it's going to be like WO3
>>721633472crisis management is apti remember seething as a kid because liu bei or cao cao wouldnt stop walking into their deaths so i would just play as them to make the level easierthat and starting with a horse to unlock horses for everyone else
>>721633597Yes.
>>721633269>>721633305I really like the designs, yes.
>>721633597Dong Zhuo kinda got overlooked because he's still fat but I like how he's not a comic villain anymore and is more in line with Cao Cao
Will they nerf the vorpal element?You can easily farm 3000+ KO on Hei Fei Castle in less than 15 minutes and completely trivialize Lu Bu as Cao Cao
>>721632432Honestly, if they ever remaster 6? Just go for 6 Special's return to PS2 mechanics, and intermingle it with the rest of the game properly, plus the classic costumes for those that prefer them. Bam, you've basically got 6 unfucked then and there.
>>721633269>the game is terrible at explaining it to youI tried the demo, and the combat weirdly scripted. If I jump into the air and press the normal attack button, my character just teleports to the ground and starts their ground attack string. I have to explicitly do the launcher attack, then mashing normal attack automatically does an aerial combo.>>721633472Even then, the perfect dodges, parries, and battle arts, make the combat feel a lot more dynamic.
>>721633832>>721633861fucking a. we finally see the dangerous warlord and not a comedic fatso. they don't get that right even in the superior ro3k series.
>>721632876My favorite thing in DW7 and what I still remember is seeing Xiahou Dun get shot in the eye then just pulling it out and continuing the fight. Otherwise I didn’t care for how in 7 and 8 the officers didn’t have unique weapons with unique move sets, I played them both a bit but nowhere near completion.
>>721633815Well your job in the old games was not to fight the entire enemy army by yourself, it was to open paths and blockades (often in the form of officers, or literal gates) for your army to advance. The management came in when several different divisions of your army were under duress at the same time and you had to choose who to help when, and in the early game before you acquired a fast horse and foreknowledge of the battle, you often only had time to help one division and had to leave the others to their fate (which would not end the stage, just make it more difficult to complete and make you feel like shit for letting your bros die)
>>7216339246S still had renbu, it did not return to the charge system
what was his problem?
>>721634003For me the combat felt less dynamic, every fight largely plays out the same with the superarmour funneling you into defensive mechanics before you can really interact with enemies, if you gave every weapon the guardbreak that sword/halberd have and have battle arts that guarantee launchers/knockdown/stuns it would be alot better
>>721634326who?
>>721632332that track will always be my top one. many many many many hours spent playing that level on the playstation magazine demo disk
>>721634149I am just now realizing that we're going to get Gunning's sanic musou with Origins mook counts
>>721634251I mean just look at him
>>721634370
>>721633861>>721634064I also like how Yuan Shao went back to being a respectable if occasionally foolish commander, instead of the weirdo they had running around in 6-8. Although Origins doesn't do a good job of showing his friendship with Cao Cao.
>>721634476Yuan Shao kinda got the short end of the stick imo, I don't really remember him all that much from Origins. Just the usual humiliation ritual.
>>721634348One thing the old charge system combat did really well was give you a sense of control, since you know exactly what move did what and when you needed to use it, such as C2 stuns, C4 wide swinging group attacks, C5 multi-hit officer smashers, C6 ranged blade waves, etc.IMO the way to improve this would be to take all these utility moves and decouple them from having to use normal strings first, making them their own unique button presses like Basara where you could use any of them at any point.I feel like 9 tried to do this but ended up automating it too much to be more cinematic
>>721634476>Although Origins doesn't do a good job of showing his friendship with Cao Cao.yeah this was a shame because i thought they did a good job showing how conflicted Cao Cao was before and after guandu but in the context of the game in isolation it didn't really mean anything
>>721634649Isn't that what Origins did? Only the sword and halberd had the old charge system
GUAN YU NIGGASWE ARE SO BACKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19qpqjebafg
>origins>abyss>dw3 remasterwhat a time to be a dw fan
I did not care for 5 and I am glad they are going for 3 instead.I find 5 to be overrated and suffers from "last game on the system syndrome" where everyone assumes it was the best because it was the "newest" one of the classic games. 5 was a step down in almost all aspects from 4, 3 and even 2. I have the same opinion of 8 as well.
>>721632332still best nanman track
>Updated graphics for DW3 Zhu Rong's designSweet
>>721634943I really like the concept of Abyss but I couldn't get past how cheap it looks, it looks like a fucking mobile game
Still the greatest single design they ever made for a character. It tells you legitimately everything about the character's personality right down to the short slicked backed hair, narrow mindedness, repression and militant rigidity.
bros... why do they hate jim
I hope they keep those little starting missions where you’re just helping a town fend off a bunch of bandits and some literal who, comfy vibes. Also the pirate stage.
>>721634649>I feel like 9 tried to do this but ended up automating it too much to be more cinematicI thought I was going to love 9's combat system when I heard that you could access your launcher/knockback/stun moves without going through the traditional dial a combo gameplay, but yeah it didn't click with me when I actually tried it.>>721635008I think 5 also gets points because it was the first mainline game to remove attack lock. But those codes to switch it off in 2/3/4 now exist.
>>721635072oh it 100% does and it's horrendously overpriced imo but i do find it a lot of fun
>>721635072Would have been better with a standard camera position. The overhead isometric camera is what makes it look cheap.
>>721634649It follows a general trend in gaming of removing offensive enemy interaction in exchange thats rooted in old bmups for defensive interaction which got very popular with stuff like sekiro
>>721635072Understandable, it is Asset Flip: The Game after all. I enjoyed it A LOT more than I thought I would though.
>>721635008What are you talking about?DW6 was on PS2 as well.
>>721635207it's not even that, it's the menus and most of all the fucking font
>>721632832Xniang Yu slaughtered more people than Dong Zhuo and Cao Cao combined
>>721634251>Guo Huai in games>silly coughing uncle>Guo Huai in real life>UNSTOPPABLE KILLING MACHINEHow the hell did they get his representation SO wrong?
>>721635187I never found attack lock to be a problem, none of my friends did either. Never heard the complaints until recently when I guess zoomers started emulating them.Funny, I also am a big fan of the old MH games where people also complain about not being able to turn and redirect your attacks on a dime once the animation started. I just don't have a problem with commitment and saving my button presses for when I know they will connect.
>>721633101the music rocks
>>721635338It was, but it came out on PS2 well after the PS3 version was released, so barely anyone played it.
>>721633472>Because the series kept getting ripped to shreds in reviews because of it.In the west, while the same reviewers were praising Madden and FIFA. I thought the games were well reviewed in Japan, and Europe likes them too
>>721635159Because Jim is full of traitors who all wanted to be revolutionaries like the men who came before them. They literally learned from the Sima's example of taking Cao Cao's legacy for themselves.
>>721635436Attack lock annoyed me in 4, but that's because I usually played as Cao Cao, and attack lock can really fuck up his C6. So having it disappear in 4E and 5 was a game changer for me, but admittedly I barely noticed it in 4 when using other characters.
>>721635338Doesn't count and you know it. 6 on PS2 came out well after the 7th gen version, nobody but poorfags played it.
>>721635613>I'm wrong so it doesn't countNigger.
>>721635393You now remember Wei Yan's character assassination
>>721635393Many such cases
>>721635762I think Origins found a really good middle ground for Zhang He. But if they continue the story I have no idea how they're going to handle Wei Yan.
>>721635393It's a video game so you have to make characters different in terms of visuals/personality, this goes double for the older games which were more three kingdom themed beat em ups rather than actual adaptations.>>721635740Chimping out like a retard is accurate atleast
>>721635112And then in DW8, he pulls the stick out of his ass, and starts using it as a weapon.
ma CHAD
>>721635353What the fuck are you talking about?
>>721636045The baton is absolutely perfect for his character. Hope they never use the stupid fan ever again for him.
>>721635860They won't have to adapt his death since they wont go past whuzang so they can pretend he wasn't a treasonous idiot
>>721635393Why do you complain about Guo Huai being portrayed wrong when the game has>Wei Yan>Ma Chao>Zhang He>Xiahou Yuan>Xu Chu>Sima Zhao>fucking Xiahouji>>721635860I think keeping Wei Yan being masked and a misunderstood kindred spirit is fine, but they really got to get rid of the cave man speech.
>>721636110Said absolutely nobody.
>>721631549>>721631962Yeah this is all we really need. In fact that is the only real major issue with DW3 compared with the later games. Being able to freely move during your combos. With this fixed the game is arguably the best DW of the PS2 era DW games.
>>721636197the font!! don't use arial or whatever that is!!! the wo3 one looks more like the psp menu font which is more circlish
I don't want my old games to look like new games. I want my old games to look old with some QoL improvements that don't impact the original artistic intent.Kinda disappointed over this, I'll just emulate the original 3.What's the point in this remake when it looks and plays like the other new games?
>>721636223I feel like the steel rod is too physical for a strategist-type character like Zhuge Dan even though police brutality is probably something he would absolutely do.
>>721635159This girl made Warriors Orochi 3 into a fucking joke idk why she hits so hard
>>721636223Baton was a Shadow Sprint weapon, right? Those were really fun to play, even if they led to some brainless infinite combos.>>721636307Or just do what Zhou Tai did for ages and have him not say much. But then he's just Green Zhou Tai with different old man friends. And yeah, who the fuck thought making Xiahouji into a playable character was a good idea?
>>721626218This is untrue. The word translated as “Romance” by Brewitt-Taylor is “Yanyi” which in context can be understood as “explained.” The original title “Sanguozhi Yanyi” means “the history of the three kingdoms explained.” So yes, it was pretending to be real history and attempting to supersede the historical records, and people taking everything in the Yanyi at face value is the Yanyi working as intended.
>>721636334There's also other little QoL things, like being able to pick up items while on horseback, or being able to see sub officers on the pause menu map, or not needing to equip a rare item just to see where my horse is parked.
>>721616965this looks like a mod for origin
>cao cao gonna be a regular dude with AMBITION again instead of a fucking ice mage
>>721630431It's long because it's a medley of songs that cover the whole period.
>>721634476ever since he lost the Xemnas voice he's shit
total pang tong superiority
>>721625826I just defeated an officer!
>>721637390>combo leaves enemy officer with a pixel of hp>ally decides this is the time to stop shifting left and right and takes a swing
>>721632593>child rape"It was love dammit!" - Zhang Fei the drunkard
>>721618440>that doesn’t compromise female characters’ roles and backgroundsThe Romance of the Three Kingdoms is unironically one of the most sexist pieces of classical literature. Liu An murders and cooks his wife for Liu Bei and this is portrayed as virtuous, and Zhang Fei was literally a pedophile rapist but is portrayed heroically.
>>721637871That is fucking insane, but it’s so interesting to me the differences with Chinese culture, what else is virtuous for them? I plan to read that one at some point hopefully. I love classical literature.
>>721637772Also remember that Xingcai was a literal drop in replacement who was married to Liu Shan after her older sister (who was originally married to Liu Shan) suddenly died.
>>721623940It actually happened. Multiple times, even, as a Japanese fanboy of the story repeated the feat during Sengoku.What's fake is attributing it to Zhuge. He had nothing to do with the real thing. Plus there was a small boatload of added happenstances which made questioning the defenders' weakness much more reasonable than the final story portrays it.
>>721637871It unironically was a different time.
BASTARD OF THREE FATHERS
I really hope they keep Fu Xi and Nu Wa in their original outfits. I dont like their Orochi looks at all.
>>721637390I prefer the>Come back later and try again!quote from DW5.
>>721637871Holy based
>>721637772But she cute
>>721636672Thanks for the correction, anon. Makes a lot of sense, then.Also:>>721636672>>721626371The duality of man
>>721637871>meeting Liu An's wife
>ue5great, looking forward to another game i can't run natively
>>721628993But muh Suikoden
>>721638316I think anon’s point is the crazy version attributed to Zhuge Liang could have only worked by being fictional. The actual historically recorded instances of someone pulling off an empty city bluff (in the 3k era in particular we have records of it being done by Cao Cao, Wen Pin, Zhao Yun) weren’t nearly as dramatic as the fictional Zhuge Liang version.
>>721639369The Zhuge Liang version reads like an ancient version of an>And then everyone clappedstory.
>>721637871You need to read and understand things in context. Zhang Fei did the honorable thing by marrying her. You do realize what the alternative would have been in a time of chaos and war, right? To make things scarier, the record says he married her because he realized she was from an upper class family. Imagine what might have happened if it were some peasant girl and someone less honorable than Zhang Fei.
>>721632832>It's easy to root for the underdog.Chinese (and Japanese) aren't too big on that. It's really more about the fact they're the Han holdouts.Wei establishes Tang China, Wu establishes Southern China, but Han is just there being the Chinese Roman Empire.Easy to we-wuz when you're a northerner forced to flee down south into lands that are too fucking hot, where people still have to deal with jungle barbarians squatting in the mountains, where people eat this horrid shit called "rice" alongside all sorts of fucked up shit that should never have been put on a table.The real odd thing is how even the southerners (be it Chinese or Vietnamese) took up to fellating them. Though I would expect there was a period where they were the "There's nothing wrong with rice" camp that still took Wei/Wu position in these retellings.
>>721639325doesn't that have nothing to do with water margin EXCEPT for the name and muh 108 heroes?
>>721635159>Game is about the conflict of THREE kingdoms>They dance around the historical truth that all three kingdoms just kind of went full retard and a fourth one was the winner
>>721638253Fei raped Xiahouji twice?
>>721620309isn't this the model viewer music? Why do I have memories of this...
Are DW fans so desperate they're willing to accept Origins as the series 'reborn'?Just let the fucking series die, I can go reply any of them as much as I want.
>>721639684japs fucking love underdogs, just look at how popular mitsunari is
>>721639691And you're generally fighting against some sort of corrupt empire / kingdom / generic stand in for the Song
DYNASTY TACTICS NIGGASKESSEN 2 NIGGASOROCHI NIGGASROTK NIGGAS
>>721639849Yeah, it's the Gallery/Encyclopedia music. DW always do those songs absolute justice, they just have this weirdly nostalgic and longing feeling to them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6KtJxSKC_M
>>721639961I JUST WANNA PLAY AS WUSONG AND KILL WOMEN
>>721639923I don't think they like him because he's an underdog, they like him because he's a tsundere bishie. I didn't see people falling over themselves over Kessen Mitsunari.
>>721639850I think I could pick any one of the games I like out of the series and be set for like 10 years because there’s so much to do in all of them, and I inevitably get bored before that anyway.
Now do Samurai 3
>>721636583give her induction and explosion in 8Xl and watch her massacre billions
>>721632432>>721632580How does this renbu system work? What is it?
>>721636583>>721640413Yeah, the fact that the throwing knives have no hitstun and do fuck all damage doesn't matter when you can activate 50 long range elemental effects per button press. It's like having a full auto shotgun, but bouncier.
>>721616965I've only played origins, how is DW3(the original not the remake) different gameplay wise?
>>721640047Speak for yourself I love kessens ishida. FUKASHIMA THE UNGRATEFUL WRETCH, HAS HE FORGOTTEN ALL THE TOYOTOMIS HAVE DONE FOR HIM? I WILL PUNISH HIM MYSELF FOR HIS BLATANT INSOLENCE.
>>721623836Anyone watch the anime with him? Where he gets reincarnated in the modern day and becomes a manager to an aspiring singer? Its pretty good, uses a lot of his 3 kingdom strats to help her.
>>721640831The big one is that enemy officers don't have super armour by default, so instead of parrying or waiting to counter you can just walk up to enemies and wail on them. However, you don't have dodges or ways to cancel out of attacks.
>>721622620>>721622720
>>721640427>you have this Renbu gauge that can go from lv1 to lv4 at maximum>you start out with empty gauge and build it up by attacking enemies, but it can also goes down if you are knocked down or you go too long without fighting>with each increased lv, you unlock more part of the attack string as well as making your attacks having more power and range>lv1 gives 3 square attack string and 1 triangle, lv 2 gives 6 square and 2 triangle, 3 gives 9 square and 3 triangle and 4 gives 12 square and 4 triangle (give or take, I don't really remember the exact number)>the square attack string also can loops endlessly with the last attack chain directly back to the first attack of the stringIt sounds cool on paper, but it makes the combat a lot more button mashy and completely eliminates the functions of the different charge attacks. And the fact that you can't have the Renbu gauge maxed out at all time makes the system a massive chore.
>>721640928>Its pretty good, uses a lot of his 3 kingdom strats to help her.It's absolute garbage and barely capitalizes on the fact that Zhuge Liang is in the modern era and It's references are surface level. Further it immediately all but ignores this once they start to over focus on shitty rapers and crappy rival bands, who for some retarded reason, completely waste the chance to make the rival manager Sima Yi. It was a gimmick. Fuck this show and fuck you.
>>721640176If you had to pick one to play and one only, which would it be?Best from the last 15 years? I'm new to the series, want to give it a shot.
>>721641148How rude.
My waifu is never going to be in DW now that they're doing Remakes
>>721641090This is it. I lost the webm so thank you for reposting it for me, anon.
surely someone here has the xiahou dun shiggy diggy savedi used to have it but i cant find it anymore and it makes me sad
>>721641338This?
>>721641148It comes across that the author just wanted to write about musicians, but needed an isekai-esque hook because that's what everyone is writing these days.
>>721641071They dont have super armor but they do block like a motherfucker and are real quick to catch you trying to charge up a guard breaker on Hard mode
>>721641490Which was the game that would have them get back up at full health if you knocked them down
>>721641096This sounds like it could be a pretty neat combat mechanic if it were tied to another unrelated game. Maybe something more linear and level based with an emphasis on fast paced arcadey action combat.
>>721640831Super armor only exists if your attack stat WAY lower then the opponent's defense. This works both ways as peons can't stun you at all after you've increased your defense stat high enough.
>>7216415344 I think
>>721641534DW2. In 3 and 4, they had to explicitly charge up to heal, but the charge up time wasn't that long. I think 5 removed officer healing, but some powered up officers (think Lu Bu at Hulao Gate or Zhang Liao or Gan Ning at Hefei) could heal and activate permanent buffs when they hit certain health thresholds as makeshift boss fights.
will they censor this blatant body shaming?https://youtu.be/4rbgsaxChVY?t=39
>>721641734>>721640831In DW4XL, with absolutely maxed out Defence you could even tank normal attacks from generic officers. On the other hand, hyper mode officers with an Attack X2 buff could ignore your block of your Defence was low enough, depending on the game.
>>721641534That was 2
I miss hunting down stat up items
>>721616965Been enjoying Warriors Orochi 3 recently.
>lubu gets off his horse>try to take it>get bucked off:(
>>721641210New to the series? Here's my super brief of the series:>1: Not a DW game>2: Tech demo for 3>3: Gold standard of the series. Aggressive AI that can juggle you to death giving the chance, incredibly unforgiving archers that can snipe your health bar to smitherens if you're not careful, first to introduce secret unlockable items and ultimate weapons. Has individual story mode and cutscenes with interchangeable characters that can result in plenty of hilarious exchanges. (In)famous for the hilariously bad English dub>4: Ditched the individual story mode for faction story with branching paths. Weapons now have lvs and you must grind them up to max before you can unlock the ultimate weapon. Enemy aggressiveness is somewhat dialed down and it's starting to let you be able to actually take the whole enemy army if you're good enough, still plenty tough for newcomers though, and it infamously has the most hated stage in all of the franchise.>5: The most polished of the PS2 games with many much needed QoL changes like the semi-decloning most of the characters and removing the auto lock-on (though admittedly this one was already done in a previous spin-off). Back to individual story mode, and weapons now may come in 3 different weights with varying power and attack speed to them.>6: The first black sheep of the series. Very good stage design but the combat >>721641096 is incredibly divisive, and made worse by having cut characters as well as 2/3 of the roster being clones.>7: Goes back to the old charge attack system of the PS2 games but with new movesets. Half the roster is still clones, but you can switch between 2 weapons on the fly, and if a character uses their favorite weapon, they have one extra EX charge attack. Most noticeable thing about it is expanding the story to go past the 235AD to 264AD and offers a much stronger narrative than its predecessors. Faction-based story though.(1/2)
>>721642353WO3 was good. 4 wasn't bad. It really wasn't. But it was such a step down in a lot of ways that just make it feel hollow. It's just lacking immersion. Too menu driven.
>>721641815Leave Zhu alone, his rhetoric is one of the best a general and army can have.
>>721641407>day off>everyone looks content>good music>Wang Yi just fucking pissed about somethingtry smiling, and which iteration is the best for Wang Yi?
i hate how newer warrior games handle xpthey always give you "points" that you throw at a character you dont play and suddenly they are level 50
>>721642608yeah. go back to making you play the game. Beat an officer and you get a +3 to whatever stat. Find the hidden health and musou item upgrades. I know games have like a 100 characters now but if someone feels the need to have to get EVERYONE to max that's on them.
>>721642395>8: Refinement of 7 where everyone is unique, and the weapon switching is encouraged to be utilized by a rock-paper-scissor system where using a disadvantageous weapon makes you unable to stunlock the enemy, and using advantageous one can give you a powerful Storm Rush massive AOE attack. Also faction story with branching paths, but the narrative sucks ass again now. Also probably the most grindy of the series if you want to 100% it>9: The second black sheep where the game goes open world, but the world is incredibly empty and completely kills level design. Also experimented with yet another new combat system where your attack strings are based on the state of the enemy you're attacking. I personally liked the new combat, but it is VERY definitely not for everyone.
>>721642776give me a rundown on the best waifu from each game
>>721642395>Enemy aggressiveness is somewhat dialed downNot necessarily dialed down. They are much more proactive when it comes to interrupting your combo, but no longer do full combo or casting musou. Especially when you dare to ride anything but Shadow Runner horse.On PC version, the double troop count on screen makes the game super annoying when soloing with no bodyguards.
>>721636325butthurt Li Meng fan
NEED MEI PUSSY
>>721642873soft soothing pillows
>>721642873Daqiao, that is all.
>>721642776>where the game goes open world, but the world is incredibly empty and completely kills level design.The most annoying thing about this is the wasted potential. 9 could've had grand scale conflicts, massive sieges, multi-facted warfare and tactical gameplay, but instead it's all about hunting wild animals for materials, doing random sidequests, and then you can grapple hook any enemy base and capture it, then speed out of there. Empires didn't really try that hard either despite not being terrible, especially with just reusing the same siege maps over and over and over. Even if one pushes aside the soft reboot fuckup with new ideas and styles for gameplay that led to tons of cloning and weapon sharing again, pissing away all that potential for barebones pointless open world meme shit is the undeniable sin of that damn game, and a damning testament to the fact that a series should really try to stay in its lane sometimes instead of trying to be what it really isn't.
>>721642608The real issue is skill trees that lock combos behind them
>>721616965>start imagining all the ways they'll screw this up>Lu Bu will probably sound like a 20-year-old anime protagonist instead of a gruff warlord>enemies will politely wait in line to get combo'd to death>anti-aliasing will be broken on launch>collision detection more broken than my parents' marriage>"more than 40 officers" but 20 of them are DLC>no online co-op because "technical limitations">day one patch bigger than the actual game
>Remastered >not following the trend of cloyingly obnoxious wordplay names that call it Re-something instead We could have had Dynasty Warriors 3: Re Kingdoms
>>721637383UUUURYETA
>>721643520Dynsty Wars: Rise of the 3ree Kindgoms
>>721642747They better keep the weapon and stat drops for the remaster
>>721643520They should have went with True Dynasty Warriors 3
>>721638415>san pengulo memes in 2025
>>721643520>Re KingdomsLiu Shan isn't in tthis game
>>721641210Probably 3, it’s the one I always go back to.
>>721643770Shin Shin Sangokumusō
>>721643465Shut the fuck up doomfag, none of that has precedent here
I'm digging this.
>>721643976>fingers that can bendI didn't know sorcery was real.
>>721643795>mfw the links are fucking deadAnyone know if there's an archive link somewhere?
i hope i get to kill cao cao every stage only for him to run away clutching his shoulderuntil the final stage when he flops over dead
>>721644072This but Liu Bei
>>721643976>they didn't get the texture details rightWhat the fuck?
>>721643976>>721644050>Oh hey I can see the background
this thread makes me curious about the lore. the games are obviously sanitised but is there no way other than reading the books? I actually like reading but rotk is particularly dense and the Chinese names confuse me.
>>721642776Somehow had the biggest glow up in 7.
>>721644167Maybe I'm overthinking it but it kinda looks like they tried to make the floral print more subtle in the lower part and then Youtube compression murdered it?
>>721644314There are some Chinese shows which I’ve heard are pretty enjoyable, could always just wiki surf too.
ahhhgh.... liu bei... help me.....
>>721632593Okay but Guan Yu is still based though. Even Cao Cao wanted him on his team like if this was some sort of NFL draft and he was trying to recruit the best player in the league on his team kek.
>>721644314There are two TV series but the newer one is very limited in scope and changes a lot, the older one is better but will not be any easier to follow than the book if names confuse you
>>721644314>loreLore? This is history, son.
>>721616965I really hope they keep the original dub even if it's an option.
>>721644326Her glow up began with 6. The glow up was so drastic that she went from a raging lesbian to a doormat rape victim in your local doujin artist's canon.
>>721620423https://youtu.be/BFdmPekyzEI?si=yffq1qQnXvijHNb9I played Abyss for the first time the other day and this played on the first stage and I got happier than I probably should have.
>>721644053http://web.archive.org/web/20150528211825/http://san.paulguo.com/?id=1
i dont believe in magIIIIIIIIICONWAAAAARD
>>721644682Much thanks, brother.
>>721644431he pretty much single handedly soured relations with wu to the point they murdered his ass
>>721633269>The designs are the best the series has ever hadThat was 4 but I agree with the rest.
DW versions of the characters seem to fall flat after reading Ravages of TimeI really like Lu Bu as a scheming genius who simply gets outclassed by so many other geniuses showing up on the stage against him
>>721644548It’s lore inspired by history, not actual history. The lore is perfectly happy completely changing stuff to be almost the exact opposite of what’s written down in the history books.For example, Zhou Yu in history is recorded as the first of Sun Quan’s officers to use proper “lord-minister” ceremonial rituals to get everyone to take Sun Quan seriously as a ruler, but the lore is that Zhou Yu was a traitor minister always trying to usurp Sun Quan.
>>721644968>the lore is that Zhou Yu was a traitor minister always trying to usurp Sun QuanWhich corner of your ass did you pull this out of, because its not in the games
>>721644884Ravages of Time is stupid and genuinely bad literature because of that. You need to have read the Romance to get all the ways Ravages is subverting it. Ravages is bad literature that can’t stand on its own.
>>7216232875 was booty cheeks
>>721645141Wrong. The subversion isnt what the story hinges on, the intrigue and drama stand on their own even for someone who doesnt know the history.
>>721642524I don't like the Greek, Nordic gods or whatever. Give me Hundun's bros, give me the complete Journey to the West party, give Amaterasu or something
>>721645528I don't like how much of it focused on Naotora's annoying ass.
>>721645314>DW threads showing up in the catalog more often nowLove to see it
>>721645651G-gomenasai!!! ;__;
have they ever removed characters besides Nu Wa and Fu Xi?
>>721645651>>721645819God, I hate SW's Naotora with a fucking passion. The fact that her character design is smoking hot just makes me seethe even more.
>>721645820Samurai 5 cut a bunch of people out because it focused on an earlier time period and have a new engine and graphics style.
>>721628993Because Water Margin sucks once they actually get together. The leader guy keeps wanting to join the government to reform it instead of realizing the dynasty is beyond saving at that point
>>721642582>best Wang YiThe game that gave her the dual trisulas? The running slashes was stupid good>Wang Yi just fucking pissed about somethingThat's what makes her hot. And her hair
>>721644884The schtick of everyone being a genius with 30 keikakus gets old fast, peaks at xiapi and it goes down from there, also the art gets worse and it'll never get finished
>>721645820DW6 infamously cut Jiang Wei, Xingcai, Daqiao (but not Xiaoqiao for some reason), Meng Huo, Zhurong and Zuo Ci.
>>721645905Right? Smoking hottie but then it's all EEEEEEEEEEEH KYAAAAAAAAAAA GOMENASAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>721645905ina clears this whore
>>721645905Basara Naotora was so much better
Ancient Sword Bros, we are so back. They really need to bring back his sword
>>721646101Fuck yeah.
>>721646101>Ina>Not Kai or Ayahime
>>721645912They’re sort of constrained by the problem that Water Margin, like Three Kingdoms, was very loosely inspired by history and there are a few lines that even the most shameless storytellers won’t cross. There was an actual historically recorded bandit leader called Song Jiang (nothing like the fictional character based in him, obviously) who cut a “surrender” deal to join the government, and Water Margin won’t cross the line of changing that fact.
>>721646286You could pick most any other female officer and they're way over Naotora. But of course Naotora is the one who places popularity polls in Japan because of course
>>721641338I have been spoonfeeding too much today
>>721645651Her ass is literally her only saving grace.
>>721646435Fucking Elevens and their shit taste I swear to God
>>721646474saved thanks weifwend
>>721646178based based based
>>721645912Just because these assholes lost doesn't mean it sucks, song jiang made it VERY clear that he's a government cocksucker and wanted to be part of it.
>>721646350Aren't the Japanese making their own version of Water Margin show or something? Maybe they will make some weird changes
>>721646435no way they don't find her annoying too. how does she do it?
>>721646580I am not any -fag when it comes to ROTK, I think you miss the point by choosing a side.
>>721645651I honestly played some stages in WO4 muted because between dogshit like>Naotora>Kunoichi>Bao Sanniang>Yinping>Graciaetc. it was just a bunch of ear rape squeaking. God I fucking hate nu-musou characters.
>>721646519jiggling tits you mean
>>721646683>YinpingShe's cute so it's fine
>>721620309>MemoriesYou are a scholar and gentleman.What makes it nicer is that the first few notes are very similar to the RoTK strategy game leitmotif.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAb5c58KOwE
>>721623571>She is Liu Bei's whoreMore like Liu Bei's his whore. Motherfucker was scared of her, little sissy men with big ears
I just realized the plot of gundam IBO is a lot like water margin
>>721646683But Kunoichi is an old character
>>721646818Yeah so is Xiaoqiao but she's still pure cancer. Back then these used to be the exception, now having actual warriors is the exception.
>>721646683I do understand that in a game with 100 something characters there's going to have to be some focus but it stinks that only a handful get the super special awesome transformation. I understanding making a super form for EVERYONE is an exhausting expense but maybe take that as a sign to not do it in the first place. WO3 didn't have that.
i bet shes hung
>>721646815I just realized you're an idiot.
Warriors games threads continue to be the best in all of /v/ while also being some of the most rare. I've only played a few of these games but you autists make me want to dive deeper into them.
>>721647062I know...
>>721646818>>721646972Kunoichi was pretty alright in the first few games. She got redesigned to be more "moe" later on.
>>721646975Yeah, they they should've just expanded the East Asian myth and steal Warrior All-Stars roster.Just give me more retarded rosterfagging and asset flips Omega Force, damn
>>721647108Clearly you were around during the coff times
>>721646669Idk anon have you seen how attractive Naotora's design is? Sometimes good design is all you need to get fans.
>>721647108It's like you have the perfect mix of gameplay fags, history/literature fags and waifu fags.
>>721647153>name is literally female ninja
>>721647029>design peak femboy>his two strongest relationships are with older men constantly touching his faceWhat did SW1 mean by this? Why did the cowards try so hard to ignore and then ultimately scrap the character in every other entry?
>>721647171Toukiden was a pretty alright game. I wouldn't mind if they brought over some it's characters.
>>721647313wasnt he nobunagas boytoy irl?
So hypehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZW4b1gu-5k
>>721647338It really was decent. Shame the armor designs are all boring
>>721644314There’s no getting around it: you’re going to have to get a working knowledge of the names.I’m tempted to shill my own 3k history project but it’s not ready for the general public yet as I started in the middle for “practice” and it’ll take me another year to loop back around to the fall of Han part that everyone’s actually interested in.
>>721647449How can I make Benkei good? It felt like his attack hitboxes are so fucked up
Oh, yeah how to forget about Sun Shang Xiang, the fucking stripper who got censored in origins. You guys are fucking retards, zhurong will remain the same too
>>721647397he was indeed. and any time a fictional game brings in Nobunaga (which happens a lot) Ranmaru is never far behind.
>>721647338>KT killed this series for the flop that is Wild HeartsMy hate. All of it!
>>721647781>Wild HeartsOh god I forgot that even came out
>>721647776Reminded me on how much cooler SW's Yasuke is to AC:Shadow's one.
Man I wish there are more SFMs of DW and SW girls
>>721647449I found it funny that Warriors Orochi 3 unironically has the most story content and "character moments" for the Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive characters. You get dozens of dialogue lines between Ryu, Ayane, Momiji, Rachel and Kasumi when these characters barely ever meet each other in their own damn games.
>>721647883Too lanky IMO, should've been a giganigga
>>721647153Reminds me of Bao Sanniang, cute design in 7 when she's introduced. Gets more bland in 8 and 9
>>721647883Nioh's was pretty alright. Honestly I don't know why you'd pick him as a lead in your Japan game in the first place. Well I guess I do know but still there are more logical choices. https://www.badassoftheweek.com/mochizuki-chiyomeWould have fit the game perfectly
>>721648019Nah, her and Suo look best in 9 by a mile
>>721647754RoTK portraits are her peak, but DW 4/5 designs are nice, after 6 her costumes peak at terrible and get bland by 9
>>721648019yeah, there was a lot of "modernization" in the characters as time went on that I don't much like. Even mainstays like SSX tended to get a bit more "idoly"
Katsuie will always be my favorite character
>>721648173Tactics SSX was pretty nice
>>721648173>RoTK portraits are her peak, but DW 4/5 designs are nice,Correct. Origins costume was nice too, but I always use the old ones (5 or below) or the ROTK bonus outfit if she has one
>>721644635Nah 6 just doesn't feel like her. It's somebody else.
>>721648453There's a part of me that's a little happy the BOW PRINCESS finally became a bow user but also it kind of sucked.
>>721648173I always marry Sun Shang Xiang, not only because she's the cutest but because I want to be part of the Sun family and be Sun Ce kyoudai along Zhou Yu.The other ones I usually marry are Dong Bai and Lu Bu daughter
>>721648517Talking Yue Ying. Peak Sun Shang is forever 5 though.
I only played 2, 3, and 8 and wanted to see the iterations of this bald guy.
>>721647313>weird gay triangle between Mitsuhide, Nobunaga and Ranmarustoryline completely ignored and Ranmaru forever forgotten. Tbh there's really not much story to tell for Ranmaru since his claim to fame was being Nobunaga's boytoyBest Mitsuhide look btw
>>721648673oops
>Page 9It's been a fun Musou thread with actual discussion bros. I'll see you folks when any other news drop.
>>721647869I was wondering what mosou spin off game I was forgetting but one look at that cover reminded me of all the streamers trying to be positive as the game broke during the sponsorship.
>>721648676It feels like they wanted to make him a big deal in DW6, but his moveset sucked so much, and then the super scripted nature of the stories afterwards relegated him back to 'shows up in one stage to die'.
>>721648629Tiger Family rules
>>721648896Objectively speaking, WH's gameplay was fun, but the optimization was dogshit, and the story and characters were boring, unlike the likeable cast of both Toukiden games. Also, I just like the Mitama hunting grind of Toukiden more.
>>721648805>Best Mitsuhide look btwThat's SW2 but for a while I liked SW3 looks and 4 is pretty good too. Mitsuhide always look good but he's a faggot who deserve to die a painful death
>>721649115Yeah, Toukiden was chill. I liked the whole setting.
>>721649174Well he did get speared to death by bamboo sticks so I imagine it was indeed pretty painful.
>>721649174My man Nobunaga practically begged to get shanked
>>721646004>(but not Xiaoqiao for some reason)Because she's better.
>>721649302No no, he survived and retired as a monk. Odafags seethe.
But seriously do a Samurai game next
>>721649326That's boy talk, that's how I mess with my friends. Mitsuhide is a very feminine guy and he couldn't take it
>>721644812>can i get your daughter as hostage, i mean can my son marry your daughter?>no>WE CANNOT BEAT ZHANG LIAO. GUAN YU MUST DIEcome on now
>>721649519>Hey remember that shit we borrowed. We ain't given it back. OH NO THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY OWN ACTIONS!Fuck Guan Yu
