Prisonbreak chads, where are you at?
>>721618780I am so sick of the broodmother in this zone At least there's no runback but fuck it's annoying me
>>721618780>changing the name of his shitty threads to avoid filtersFuck you, general nigger.
>>721618947I liked her fight, it was like Gruz Mother but actually fun. Cool boss thematically too.
Which bug has the best voice ?
>>721619071Sherma and the relic bug
>>721619123>relic bugShe has a really good one. I personally like Lace and Twelfth Architect a lot.
Do people like Act 3? It's just so bad. The void enemies are not that different and they are a bit too tanky, the infected enemies in HK were a lot better imo. The side content isn't great either, only Verdania was cool to explore and the bosses there were shit. Outside of the ant lady boss and the final boss everything was pretty meh desu.
>>721619071Seamstress for me, I love how she giggles through some of her lines
>>721618780>generals outside of /vg/
>>721619351Are you going to be a nigger like the other thread spamming furry porn and /vg/?
>>721619327I honestly expected all the memories of old rulers to have fully explorable locations to make up for the fact you had to go through the whole map again just to find them. One of their playtesters had to have complained about the game taking too long or some shit, I really don't get why we couldn't have had 4 more medium-sized on-eoff locations. Verdania even gives you a fucking ghost map for the areas you can't revisit anymore, it's weird.
>>721619071Loyal Mergwin, no question.
>>721619457It's DLC bait.
>>721618780I tried Hollow Knight since everyone is cumming their pants over Silksong. I'm 5 hours in and 80% of that has been running around in circles trying to figure out where to go next.How does anyone enjoy this shit?
>>721619032>but actually fun
>>721619520Holy based !!!
>>721619457That would be cool especially for the coral area with the weird fish enemies.
>>721619520What the fuck is up with him and his master? Why are they not haunted, and why is his master so fucking fat? What type of bug are they even meant to be?
I play more Silksong whenever >50% of players have my latest achievement. Currently, Cockwork Dancers are at 49.9%
>>721619418>NOOOOOO DON'T CALL MUH CIRCLEJERK THREADS GENERALS
>>721619457>I honestly expected all the memories of old rulers to have fully explorable locations to make up for the fact you had to go through the whole map again just to find them.I know for a fact that we're going to get the scrapped regions as DLC, but it definitely would have felt better if gathering the hearts was closer to what you said.
>>721619327There's some cool moments but I hated having to traverse the entire damn map again to stumble upon them. The upgraded enemies are whatever, not interesting they just take longer to kill.
>>721619807You're never beating the game at this rate
>>721619874Yeah that's a good point, literally no game has >50% achievement rate for the final boss
>>721619821Game isn't even a month old and its highly popular/vg/ is where games go to die
>>721619562Mayhaps it's just not a genre you enjoy.
>>721619806Mergwin is too selfless, dedicated, and loyal to his primary charge to be ever swindled by GILF's silk and her slavemill tax policies. He's likely afflicted by the same terminal basedness that rendered Zote immune to the infection. His master, he is simply the Great Gourmand. He went beyond common bughood long ago.
>>721619562Try Ori: Will of the Wisps, it has a lot more combat and puts markers on your map of where to go
>>721619351>This is not to say threads about specific games cannot be created on /v/rule 6.
>>721619327you forgot punished trobbio
what do i do with this, smoke it? something to do with an ending? if so can i go back and redo other endings after doing one?
>>721619327Evidence suggests that it was originally created as a NG+ mode. I wish it had stayed as such. It had high points, but it ultimately fumbled the magic and momentum of the primary ascension.
Does Act 3 have new bosses? If so, I gotta play it
>>721620279each time you get an ending you can reload and try another oneThat particular ending is a bit tricky as it requires you to kill the final buss while nerfed, and if you unnerf yourself, you get permanantly locked out of that ending (it's a secret band ending though).
>>721619861That's the problem, you're not eexploring you're just running from objective to objective. The wishes are a big problem and ruin the game design. HK was deigneed in a way that you would stumble on events naturally as you back track through areas. In Silksong it's just "Go climb the mountain again for literally no reason, there's a new boss there" >>721620172He's cool but some of his attacks seem unavoidable, might just be a skill issue on my part though.
>>721620279If you take it to the top of Mount Fay without taking damage it gives you a really strong charm
>>721620396Act 3 is basically a boss rush, There are at least 8 bosses from the top of my head.
>>721620491
>>721620279Take it to Greyroot in Shellwood.Be warned that this will get Hornet impregnated and horribly nerfed until you get an abortion.And yes, there is a secret bad end if you beat Act 2 boss while pregnant.
>>721619920/vg/ is where games go to get discord communities, avatar/tripfags, attention whores, and unironic trannies. Furniggers unironically want this because they're mad a non-human non-furfag game is as popular as it is.
Reminder to give Trobbio's mirror a chance. The damage it can dish out, the number of times that damage saved me from a cheeky greedy enemy trying to hit me mid-heal, I think I would put it in my top 3 tools in the game.
>>721620634>top 3 toolsYou just guaranteed I will never use it. I don't use broken OP shit
>>721620634It's good but only in conjunction with rhw witch's crest. It's something designed to be stacked to really be a viable weapon.
Gotta admit the game really falls off in act 2. The beginning of act 2 isn’t bad, but wow it just becomes tedious platforming and bs secrets with about zero story or lore to keep you hooked. Tons of areas in act 2 are just giant platforming sections with little reward, and again, nothing else to keep you interested. After finishing bilewater I wanted to take a break from the game, but didn’t. So I finished getting to lace and grandmother silk and holy shit I’ll beat grandmother silk tomorrow but really not pleased with the second half of this game. Silksong has several things over og hollow knight, but it’s so drawn out and empty. I remember the story of HK was a mystery for quite awhile, but in the end it was a succinct cohesive story. Silksong is not succinct, and the story doesn't deserve a map this big.
>>721620818>storynigger plays an actual video game
>>721620550
>>721620818That's the problem with it trying to tell a story while being so open ended. If you just rush the main story objectives, Lace suddenly becomes much more present as a character. Instead you get a lot of downtime between her introducing you to the Citadel, and quietly standing up to fight you (kino but really didn't feel earned)
I'm liking the double hit of the architect crest but I rarely use tools and the pogo is dogshit. Guess I'll stick with reaper
I just got the double jump (makes the glide a bit awkward, but still fun enough)and then . . . I went to bonebottom and got killed by a Skull Tyrant along with the little dude.So anyway, I always forget that I should be placing markers for ares I clearly need an item to get to. What's some of the quick and easy stuff I should backtrack for now that I can jump higher? (aside from that last melody in the citadel.)
>>721620871So is Hornet one of those kinds of people that hates gays because deep down they are also gay?
>>721620474TTrobbioLost Garmondthe four memory fightersBell eaterthe true final bossRight?
>>721620963There's technically more
>>721620963alsoThe dream DeerThe CrawfatherThe WatcherSeth
>>721621063Right, Voltwyrm and Watcher at the edge
is there a point to fighting shakra if you already beat her once?
>>721620491>>721620550>>721620871no one careskys tranny
>>721621086>>721621102and lifeblood guy and pintress
>>721621086trueAlso the pinstress
>>721620963>>721621086Nick Gurr the Trapper
>>721620947she's just a bit tsun-tsun
>>721620818I didn't care at all about the story so act 2 was thr best part for me. Tons of new zones opened up
>>721621151Does the lifeblood guy even count? Dude has 2 attacks and probably just exists to make farming plasmium for the quest easier.
>>721621176nah you're just a worthless suicide victim
>>721618780>no unlocks or real acknowledgement for getting all lore artifacts and/or music cylinders
>>721621176
>>721620694I wouldn't call it broken OP compared to what Architect can pull off with plasmium overdose, poison tool spam, or Wanderer's dps. It's just a cool damage burst for people who can play patiently and heal when they see an opening or a stagger. And please, don't mind what my headcannon tierlist for favourite tools is. I rate tools only for their usefulness and how fun it is to use them. For example the zap stake is my number 1.>>721620753>It's good but only in conjunction with rhw witch's crestTry it for more than 5 minutes and you will see Witch's bind is unreliable to say the least. You play it with multibind? There will be examples where the mirror's first burst kill the mobs and you won't heal with the tentacles, or one of the tentacle hits will knockback the mob away if it survives, losing heal restored and damage in the process. Witch is great on paper, kinda bad in practice, which is sad because it has the best nail moveset in the game imo.
Please for the love of God tell me the last 1% is from the final boss of ending 4...
>>721621356>can knock it to zap diagonally>it'll electrify entire water bodies when used on themit's the little things
>>721621467Nope. Put your save in this to see what you're missing https://th3r3dfox.github.io/silksong-tracker/
>>721621467Nope, you get 100% before you beat the last bossHave you gotten all the upgrades from Eva?
>>721621467It's nothttps://silksong-completion.info/
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>>721618780The entire slab sequence came completely out of the left field for me lel, and I am thankful that I was not spoiled on it.
>the asian fanartists drawing lace with hair as long as gmsUtterly inspired. My dick can't take it those slants are alright.
>>721621515>>721621521>>721621537Guess I'm missing this one, I got 99% before doing the 3 bosses of Act 3. It's all good man.
>>721619562>How does anyone enjoy this shit?I figured out where to go. And the world opened up a ton. Then I found the alternative and secret paths. And the world opened up even more. Then I got into the combat too. I had lots of fun.
What are you expecting from DLC content, besides the obvious boss rush mode?
>completely miss the prison break sequence>beat the final boss>the fly is nowhere to be found>have to go to the putrified ducts to find him, because he got fucking vored by a barnacleI missed kino
>>721621552you may not like it, but this is what peak female performance looks like
>>721620419>>721620450>>721620552okay that sounds too complicated for my retarded ass i'll come back to it later thanks though
>>721621635The Chinks are massive Hollow Knight fans. Way more soulful than Western ones.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq2vtgodGHo
>>721620419>each time you get an ending you can reload and try another oneYou'd think so. But the first time I saw credits, I was pushed straight into Act 3.
>>721619071the couriers
>>721621697>Steel Assassin/City of Steel DLC>More Memories/Dream Nail options for Act 3>New Crest>New Superboss upgrades for fan favorites>Act 4 - Epilogue???>Knight fightI think these are the most likely ones. Returning to Hallownest might never hapoen outside of another Red Memory sequence.
>>721621697A bees vs wasps war themed DLC, with Shakra joining the trip with you after figuring out her Master's death was due to some silk-mind controlled bees, or something like that. Hornet's connection with the Hive would also be a good plot point for some honey bee DLC theme.
>>721621669Did you get the Mushroom already?
>>721621763Such a shame they got cucked by a shit translation.But surprisingly they insantly banded together and made a mod that replaced the shit TL with a good one in like a week and a half. Which is why the game's review score is improving.Utterly insane bugmen. Gotta respect them.
>>721621697I would really, really like an ocean themed dlc, that would let us see the coral tower tileset in it's full glory. Dunno how it could be justified lorewise though.
>>721621697I think it will be some sort of time travel thing.
>>721621928>Gotta respect them.I certainly don't HAVE to, but I'm willing to admit that is pretty impressive
>>721620947You're just a chronic dilator anon.
Fuck, posted the wrong image..Anyway, assuming this place is like the First sinner, how do you open the door?
>>721621983If they go full A Link to the Past / Axiom Verge 2 with the DLC and let us travel to the Memory of Pharloom's past or whatever and the entire game map gets an additional layer with equal-ish amounts of content. Then I'll cum so fucking hard and will praise them forever for it.
>>721618947Focus on figuring out her moveset rather than trying to brute force her. It's an enjoyable fight once you've got it down.
>>721622126It's an Act 3 only thing, you'll see.
>>721622126Act 3 main quest
>>721622126Act 3 exclusive, you'll know when it's time.
>>721620871A tranny drew this.
>>721621763The Chinese have many superlative traits but soulful isn't one of them
>>721618947Upgrade your nail
>>721622128This is exactly what I'm hoping for.
>>721622204>>721622169>>721622153
>>721621906Mushroom is next on my list, but afaik it's not needed for 100%
>>721621750>SpiderpawsCute...
>>721619327Would have been a good opportunity to have use the needolin to remove the abyss buff
>>721621697Some variant of NG+ that lets you use different tools/crests early but adjusts the earlier enemies so the game isn't a complete pushoverMainly I just want more things to use the later crests on. Shaman comes so late even if you get it asap, and Witch requires going really out of your way to get if you want it early.
>>721622126Does spanish really not have a better word for deep?
>>721622521This, I hope they find the time to give enemies and bosses new attacks to spice things up for a NG+I don't want them to double enemy HP and have them all do 3 damage
for some reason i always forget there's a bell station in the slab and run there from choral chambers tube thing
>>721622434He's got a "wish" thing in this game so I think it is needed
>>721618780i played through all of act 2 and never got that
Im trying to route my steel soul attemptIm gonna follow the current speedrun route to skip sister splinter and moorwing (speedrun kill it but i will save 5 fleas instead)Then i will purchase the fractured mask and gather 1 extra mask before doing mist and phantomThen i will farm another mask on the citadel, 2 spools and the cogflyGo back and get poison and the 2nd upgrade to th nailSkip the third upgrade so i dont have to do sands and lugoliCurrently debating on getting double jump, quitting out i think that Mt Fae is free, but i might be wrongAnyhow thats the idea, heading to lace 2 and GMS with 7 masks + fractured and poison cogfliesI need to give it further thought to the possibility or getting an 8th mask without too much troubleThanks for reading my blog
>>721622640It's not required for 100%, same with a lot of wishes100% tracks personal upgrades the same way it did in the first game
>>721622646Can't you skip act 3 with the witch's crest to get completion?
>>721622529>Does spanish really not have a better word for deep?Hondo, but profundo sounds better, then there are a bunch of other similar enough words that you could get away with but not 100% synonymsRelated to that i hate that we dont have a word for "shallow" and we just use "poco profundo"
>>721622316I'm trying but the courier mission is fucking me
>>721618780Can you 100% that place without being abducted?
>>721622762you just need to finish the game so i plan to do the regular ending, not witch not true ending, but just regularly go and kill GMSi dont think you need act 3 for steel soul, you just need to achieve an ending
>>721622805Go through the Mist entrance. It's way easier and much quicker.
>>721622805I did it fairly easily going through the mist and organ, but other anons swear by the "regular" routeJust be careful not to bonk your head when sprinting with the anklets against the levers and ledges, that costed me a run or two.Also it might help if you open a full map and color code the route by danger, there are a lot of rooms that is just running w/o any enemies, mastering the route will help save seconds on each room
>>721622907>>721622956Interesting, thanks for the advice
>>721622646Double jump is worth it and I think at the stage where you're doing steel soul you'll find Mt Fay a breeze.The High Halls gauntlet is the main thing you'll want to prep for which is why I spent the extra couple of minutes in Sinner's Road to get tacks. If you get double jump immediately after clawline, you can also disable the silk stealing ghosts for the gauntlet.Also don't forget the tool damage upgrades. They make a pretty huge difference although they're all from shops, which might mean a little rosary farming
>>721623032>Also don't forget the tool damage upgrades. They make a pretty huge difference although they're all from shops, which might mean a little rosary farmingdidn't really plan on getting those but they make a lot of sensei dont mind spending time farming the tall dudes for rosaries if that means an easier run
>>721622851Yeah you're rightSteel Soul is just any endingSteel Heart requires 100% and act 3 completion
>finished Silksong>initially thought it was a 8.75/10>play it again>now think its a 9.5/10Did I just get stockholmd?
The game needed more bosses in the style of Last Judgement, it suffers a little from most of its very best bossfights being very similar.
>>721623134It's a lot more fun when you're just moving through the zones rather than autistically checking every nook and cranny for segments that you need to come back later for.
>>721618780Almost felt bad offing him when he was wearing her cape. It seemed like the big guy finally had something to show off that he was the leader.
>>721623174the moment i got clawline i KNEW there was gonna be a boss that moved around a big ass room, maybe in cog core in some sort of production facility and that i would have to chase it with clawline and those hnaing spots that moved around on cog coreWell i was wrong
Famous Twitch streamer "Aurateur" said the following about Silksong:>I wish I was playing Hollow Knight instead. This game is mid.>(Context: Talking about Midsong's fetch quests) I think the Silksong devs should stick to their strengths - making good boss fights and ... that's really where all their strengths are.It seems he is rating the game a 5-6/10.Write your reaction in the comments below...
you are retarded anonnot the good kind of retarded either
>>721623618Literally fucking who?
>>721623618As a fellow Silksister he speaks truth sadly.
>>721623548Bro your First Sinner?
>>721623134I've played it for 150 hours and it fluctuates between a 9.8/10 and a 6/10 constantly. Very abusive.
So what are some new crests you want to see in the DLC silkbros?For me it's a nailmaster crest which grants access to all nail arts, with no tool/skill slots
>>721623691some viewbotter
>>721623797nah im talking about scale and to a point spectacle, something the size of fourth chorus moving around a big ass room and you having to chase it using all the movement skills the game hasThe other anon is right that the fights are all pretty similar
>>721623548You can skullfuck Lace 2 with the harpoon. Few anons know this.
>>721623876Same lmao.But then when I stop playing it all I remember are the kino parts so it shoots to a 10 again. But when I'm playing it's a whirlwind.
>>721623884big hammer type crest (not an actual hammer, but big slow swinging attacks with real oomph to them)a crest that lets you mark a spot and detonate marks by spending silk (i guess this would be more of a spell but I feel like you could build a moveset around it
>>721623876Yeah that just about describes it for me
>>721619562Where are youWhere have you beenWhat bosses have you beatenWhat movement options have you unlockedI'll give you a pointer
Is there a plasmium addiction ending?
>>721618780I've just got the High Halls gauntlet and final boss to do before I beat the game for the first time, seemingly. I have the double jump, 8 masks, and I've been everywhere, done every quest I can find, and I'm about to get my second-last nail upgrade, just have to deliver the rasher.If I didn't already know about a bunch of stuff from these threads, I'd say I'm around 95% finished. I've scoured the map screen and cleaned up every loose end I can find. I've done Sands of Karak and all I got was this Conchcutter. For a whole unique area's worth of effort, it must be a really good prize right?Everything else must be hidden behind secret walls I haven't found. I know about Bilewater and the Putrefied Ducts, and there are a few crests and spells I don't have yet, plus a bunch of charms. Unless Act 3 suddenly opens up a bunch of new areas and upgrades that I didn't have access to before, I'm at a loss bc it feels like I've missed a whole bunch of stuff.
>>721623618Who? No seriously who?
Bug racism.
>>721623897...Silk?
>>721624297Some stuff is only accessible in act 3, yeah. Not necessarily a huge amount, but you'll see why.
>>721621704Whoever made this is a real fren
>>721618947Do the Courier's Rasher and other quests first.
>>721624412Horny is a pretentious, spoilt nepo-child who speaks down to peasants with passive-aggressive politeness and despises anything she can't turn into a warm scarf. No wonder the proletariat population of Pharloom is constantly seething and trying to kill her.
>>721622640Which may as well be nothing because the 100% is just a rehash of the first game. The most I can praise it for is Hornet opening up about her self-doubt, as little as it is.
>>721624613> 100% ending is just a rehashI meant to say
>>721624048 Big hammer crest sounds perfect for a tanky kinetic build - maybe even slows you a bit but turns every swing into a screen-shaking quake. I’d love if it had some momentum carry too, like if you full-charge while dashing, the swing becomes a shockwave that knocks enemies down.And detonation marks? Kino. Absolute kino. Imagine laying silk tripwires across a boss arena and baiting the bastard through them mid-fight like some bug-ass Home Alone traplord. Could even combo it with a crest that lets you trigger detonations mid-air or while parrying.
Anyone know how the prison interacts with the curse? Normally it strips your crest, curious whether it'd also do so here. Not exploitable or anything, just curious.
>>721619562Unlike Silksong where they raped you early, Hollow Knight takes some upgrades before it starts being anything. It's "the" universal complain for the first game, you're not alone
>>721624721You can't be sent to jail with the cursed crest. The curse will kill the fat fly with the cage.
>>721619327it's an optional bonus so I don't mind. and true last boss >>> last boss
>>721619327It's neat for the set piece moments (the crumbling of the cradle, the trip to abyss and back), but everything else feels like a drag.
>>721624580She feels sympathetic to the workers of Greymoor oddly enough.
>>721624297>I've done Sands of Karak and all I got was this Conchcutter.You missed one of the coolest charms in the game.
I almost fucked up my rasher run because I didn't know that bumping into a wall damages the cargofuck this quest
>>721625140Yeah I failed my first attempt because I accidentally ran into a wall right at the finish line
just wanted to warn you guysa couple tendietranny tourists from discord will begin trying to shit up this thread in short noticeremember to do your duty and report them
>>721619071
>>721625017Where?
>>721625195Right on cue
>>721618780In Act 3, without looking for guides online, how do I know where to go to reach the 3 hearts?
>>721622529Dont know what to tell you... It is what it is. I don´t see any problem with this. It could be better said "muelles de las profundidades"(docks of the depths) since they are at the bottom of the map. At least is not an spic translation.
>>721625272You'll get their locations marked on your map like the melodies during act2
>>721625195it's been 3 weeks, for what reason I wonder.
>>721625272Act 3 is pretty linear>wake up>make your way down>pass out and wake up by Sherma>Sherma tells you the previous caretaker who set the snare left>Hornet outright says he likely fled to the ruined chapel down in Bone Bottom>go confront them>they send you down to the abyss>do abyss and then back to snails>they tell you what to do and it's marked on your map
>>721619071the one who gives you the monsterpedia who says ULUMU and tries to kiss you i forget her name
>>721625220These guys and the duo who give you the tacks in Sinner's Road
uh oh meltie
>>721622805Remember enemies only respawn if you bench. Start at the gourmand and work your way back to Bellhart, then just retrace the steps you took.
>>721625405Yeah they can't handle other games staying in the public eye for far oonger than they are programmed to prop up their tendieslop
Why do we have a resident schizo now.
This is an extremely weak raid. Step up your game, amateurs.
>>721624819That in and of itself is pretty cool.
How do you reach to the place you get the architect´s song?
>>721625405Mental illness. That, and likely tendie insecurity as Silksong mogs their kusoge at less than a third of the price.
>Don't display thumbnails while browsingThis kills the incel.
>>721625246Voltnest.
>>721625597I forget, which one is that again? If it's middle top, there's a door in Cogwork Core's bottom half. You have to go down and around first.
>>721625756Yes, that one, ill go check
>1 memory locket left>have no clue which one I missedahhhhhhhhhhg
>>721625361>>721625408Yeah, but there's no road to there aside of Coral tower.How should I know how to go to the other 2 markers?I have to check the map to find out where to go.
This same thing was done to Xenoblade threads. Once you go to /vg/ they wait for threads to slow down then tell you to go back to /v/ because the threads are dead and they shitpost that you should stop spamming dead threads. When a retard around here gets it in their head that they hate that anyone anywhere is talking about a game they don't like they don't let it go.
>>721625865My last one was the one in the greymoor inn since I forgot to mark that very obvious top left corner.
>>721625865I really wish there was some sort of in-game way to track those last few things you might have missed. Life, fleas get them, so why not some weird weaver tech doing a little trick?
>>721618780
>>721625906There isn't even any rule that says that there can't be a thread about the same game on /v/ and /vg/ at the same time anyways, so I don't get what the point of trying to push silksong discussion to /vg/ even is.
>>721625902Trial and error with the new silksoar I assume.
>>721625986Best moment in the entire game for me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnDlcvqthpg
>>721625986the bilewater runback is nothing, the problem with groal is the stupid gauntlet you have to kill before
>>721626040Because they genuinely think /v/ should be a cesspit of only tangentially video game discussion.It's "funny" to them.
Which did you prefer, coral tower or crystal peak? Both felt similar to me aesthetically
>>721619071POSHANKA!
Millions filtered, I kneel
>Schizo appears>Firefox grinds to a halt and computer starts shitting itselfWhat the fuck did he put in those images?
>>721626046how do I get thereI'm at the tail end of Act 2 and now that I have the flea markers I see there is one back there, am I missing an entire area between Far Fields and Greymoor or something?
>>721625986Wait, I cleared that entire zone and didn´t get my shawl stolen...
>>721624580Yeah Hornet should show some more respect for the ugly retard rapists that kidnapped her
>>721626185You don't get silksoar until act 3
>>721626105>Red "maiden" >Not a maiden
>>721625865look up silksong save game analyzer or something, it will tell you which one you missed
>>721626170thisalso (at least at first) i found her voice sexy
>>721626173it's around 40 seconds runback, the average player dies around 10 times retrying last judge on their first playthrough, that's sums up to 6 minutes that could have been used in 2 or 3 more boss retries. It's a perfectly valid complain
>>721625738I've never heard of a Voltnest before. I guess there was that part of the Memorium that I didn't recognise. I'll go back and have another look then, thanks anon.
>>721625986GIWTWM
>>721626171But I beat him in second try. I just swam in the bilewater at the corner where he could not hit me and spammed poison tools at him because I refused to respect that bullshit fight.
>>721626256Quoted By: >>721458539 >>721483604So canonically, Hornet cant recharge her focus in Hallownest right, only in Pharoom. Her focus resource is Silk and everyone in Pharoom had silk injected into them or from birth, which is why she can refill it when hitting. But in Hallownest, noone does. And unlike the Knight, she cant absorb soul energy to use to heal, only silk.She would have to rely on her silk hearts to regen up to 3 bars passively...?
>>721626297It's hidden on the upper level of memorium, GOOD LUCK SERACHING ANON!!
>>721626314>It's a perfectly valid complainno it isn't rajeesh lmaoi would ban everyone who throws their face at the wall on an encounter immediately slapping retry time and again angrily learning fucking nothing just brute forcing it from playing video games at all. you are annoying, you are dumb.same as the people who pause and hit retry if they get hit straight away.you aren't getting good, you're just fishing for a fucking favourable outcome that lets you past. if you were to have to fight it again in the next room, you would not be able to beat it most of the time which is the fucking point of learningthe run back in any game filters people and it's actually generally a good thing
>>721626171>what if vietcong, but maggot bugs?truly evil
>>721626185All fleas are accessible in act 2.
>>721626251Actually now that I think about it, are there any fleas you need silksoar for? I thought there might be one in far fields but apparently not.
>>721626403How do I open these doors (the black marks)And is the seeker's soul some Act 3 thing? I'm still only in act 2 but I found it a dozen hours ago and saw one NPC comment about it, but then nothing. Didn't even direct me towards something to do with it.Anonymous Tue 23 Sep 2025 11:31:11 No.721458539 Report
>>721626216I see you avoided the flies getting to you. Thus you avoided leaving hornet stripped. Bared. Caged, and shamed.
>>721626326You get silk even from enemies that aren't implanted with generational silk. Hornet is harvesting soul just like the Knight.
>>721626458>>721441328at first glance it looked needlessly tedious too but it really isn't that bad at all. however i came to notice by watching a lot of people playing that since platformers haven't been mainstream for decades, people genuinely suck at them even when the platforming is rather basic.
>>721626216You need to get captured by an enemy. Dunno when they start spawning but one appears in greymoor for example.
>>721626256It is still entirely possible that Hornet is just some ancient femcel who somehow remained a virgin in spite of trying to find love.
>>721626521I think that they start spawning after you save Bellheart. I am not sure though.
>>721623618the bosses suck though, that's the weakest part of HK. The exploration and the world are the actual strong point. The quests in isolation are ass but if you just do them as you explore like a non-tard, they make you look around more and experience more of the world.
>>72162650323 Sep 2025 11:43:13Isn't the runback part of the challenge?Isn't doing correct jumps/avoiding enemies part of the mechanics you learn just like the boss?Doesn't it increase your happiness when you finally manage to do flawless runbacks and the bossfight together?If you hate the runbacks you should also hate the repeat-until-you-get-good design in general.Anonymous Tue 23 Sep 2025 11:43:13 No.721459678 Report
>>721626392>the upper level of memorium???You mean Karak, right?
>>721626560I finally decided to drop this game. Its just not fun. Its incredible how everything is annoying. I played for about 10 hours, and there was not a single meaningful upgrade. Every enemy still takes a bajillion hits to kill, while they do dobule damage.I loved HK and had to force myself to put down the controller and stop playing. But SS is the opposite. I had to force myself to not quit after dying after 15 minutes of play.
>>721626583He does. Voltnest is in sands of karak. But there is also a cool tool in the similar area in memorium.
>>721626326>>721626562>>721626636Lol tranny retard script broke
>>721626583runback to beastfly 1, cutscene on LL, runback to conchfly 2. Technically not runback, but having to redo platforming sections like karak because new thing in act3, also things like the benches too far apart in sinner's road and beyond. The game is full of instances like that. I feel like half my playtime went into rethreading zones for one reason or another
I know for a fact that we're going to get the scrapped regions as DLC, but it definitely would have felt better if gathering the hearts was closer to what you said.
Cross Stitch is pretty fucking cool, but man I wish it either didn't take up the spell slot or there was a non-act 3 way to acquire more than one spell slots.
>>721625986the real crime of that zone is the silksong hornet theme remix ONLY plays in that sequence. What the fuck? Give me more arenas where I'm the boss fight and my theme is playing, come on.
>>721626683if you played super meat boy you're already completely out of the conversation of the people i'm talking about. also if you had trouble with silksong's basic bitch platforming after having played smb i don't know what to tell you.
What the fuck is going on in this thread?
>>721626775Actually now that I think about it, are there any fleas you need silksoar for? I thought there might be one in far fields but apparently not.
>>721626779Spammer is mad people are talking about video games.
>>721626779see >>721625195they're not really succeeding
>>721626779The faggot that was spamming furry porn switched to just botposting
>>721626105Almost, but this was betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e4rT-RxypM
>>721626779Cannot get over how graceful she looks in motion.
>>721626849There's some cool moments but I hated having to traverse the entire damn map again to stumble upon them. The upgraded enemies are whatever, not interesting they just take longer to kill.
>>721626681The electric tramsforming bolo thing? Seems fun, haven't tried it yet.
>>721626901>This is what soulstroons actually believe.A "runback," or rather, benches/bonfires/saving crystals, is a fucking NES mechanic that only existed back in the 80s because the hardware was primitive and couldn't support a real save system. When progress allowed it, everyone dropped that shit like everyone dropped horse-drawn carriages when automobiles became available.Then came some low-IQ Japanese boomer with baby duck syndrome who had a fond memory of riding horse-drawn carriages as a kid, and made a modern version of those.And then mentally-ill, contrarian hipster trannies formed a cult around these nu-carriages where they pretend it's a superior mode of transportation.This is the analogy for the "soulslike" cancer and its influence on modern video games.
>>721618991https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njS58BL0u5w
>>721626975I love it but I can see how people can bounce off it. It's really a game about upgrading the everloving shit out of your 1-3 doomstacks and should be approached as such, if you come in expecting "Civ but magic", you'll be disappointed. It does at times feel more like an army-based RPG than a strategy game.The magic is great though. This is something that I hate in AoW4 - the spells there are largely about stacking small stat increases into something noteworthy. CoE is more akin to MoM in that it doesn't really care about balance much and eventually escalates into outright bullshit as you tech up. Part of it being single player only, I guess.
This tactic takes me back. Remember when people tried to use it to get sc2 threads killed during the original release of that game.Never works. Takes way more effort to maintain and people immediately recognize the disruptive posts and ignore them. There are much more effective ways to derail a thread.
>>721626775>>721626815Thanks for making silsong the most popular game on the board>>721626849>>721626869>>721626901It probably got banned from uploading pics from its IP range
>>721627017Curious if anyone has even bothered regularly using it for combat. If that's the reason why they make it cost silk TC could've at least made the Needolin dialogues appear in order and not just randomly give lines.
Copypasted game discussion is still game discussionSilksong WON
>>721627069I'm cleaning up all the act 2 side quest before the final boss but I'm bored of this game already and I don't think I'll play anymore. I have desire to play other games.I'm trying to think how I could prevent my own game from getting so boring like this and I think what it needs is:-Every save point should also be a warp point and warping needs be a much faster animation with less bullshit involved.-Removal of sidequests that have you backtracking through areas you've already explored like 3 times before to remove tedium.-Removal of the need to travel just to hand in items like the artifacts you get currency in return for (although solution 1 would basically already solve the tedium here)-This games music isn't very good and in many areas can be grating and monotonous, needs much better music-MUCH more powerful mobility moves at this late point in the game so you can really zoom through previously cleared areas.
>>721627074>ItI'M A HUMAN BEING GODDAMN ITMy pronouns are she/herNOT FUCKING IT
>>721627074Yeah, I've seen this particular tactic many times in the past. Once they realise they can actually get restricted on what they post, they try to make the spam seem innocuous so that there's room for benefit of doubt in the mind of the jannies.
>>721619562unironically self induced adhd and a lack of art appreciation (music, smooth gameplay, artstyle)
>>721625491I really don't think the Courier's Rasher quest is so difficult to require such a tedious approach, so I'm surprised I've seen multiple people mention this.
>>721627161NTA but it's pretty objectively true that SS is exponentially more punishing than HK, to the point where I'd say a majority of the game's systems really only work on a NG+/steel soul run.The most obvious examples are silk arts and tools. Healing just costs way too much compared to spells. The instant you prioritize healing, which is what you WILL be doing on your blind run because you don't know the movesets yet, you stop casting. Silk arts only really shine when you're healing just once or twice total per fight, and that's obviously balanced around you doing runs in Godhome when you already have the boss moveset memorized. Similarly, red tools are extremely fucking expensive relative to how many shards the mobs drop, and that naturally discourages experimentation both in terms of learning which tools to use when, and also experimenting with which encounters you should be using tools on at all. It plays out exactly like in Sekiro where your tools were mostly just good for speedrunning through encounters you already knew during the optional boss rushes. Again, that's a game balanced around NG+ where NG is just considered the warmup.There's also the sheer volume of grinding you're expected to do if you're trying to buy all the tools to experiment with. Not an issue if you simply ignore everything except the ones for the build you're routing through in advance.Gimmicks like the Needolin costing silk feel like TC got mad after a playtester with 100 hours practicing Lost Lace realized you could somehow chain stunlock her with it under super contrived circumstances.Really, the entire game feels like it's balanced around ensuring the game is still hard for their playtesters who've each got 3000 hours of practice in the dev build, and they forgot how doing this makes a lot of mechanics so punishing they become suicidal YOLO strats or virtually non-factors when you are just trying to play the game on launch.
>>721627238I don't understand why you'd ever use needolin for combat unless you had the regenerating health thing. It only stalls enemies as long as you're playing
>>721626771>the flies capture hornet and traps her>but then you ambush them, and they are in fact the ones trapped inside with you>your boss theme starts playing Yeah I'd love it if the theme played somewhere else in the DLC. Like if we got to fight ourselves or our lil' bro or something. Or maybe if we actually get to have a friendly duel with Lace and get to hear our own theme instead of hers (though Lace's theme rocks). But I really love how Red Maiden was used as is.
>>721627283Wanderer is fasterWanderer has critsWanderer has a multihit combo you can do after dash attackingWanderer has pogo>hindered only by the windupYou say that like it's a minor thing lol
>>721627069Why is there so much seething about this game in particular? People throw around accusations of discord tranny raids all the time. But they are rarely this overt. And there was the cp spam before this.
so this nigger shit thread stays, but Uma threads get prosecuted? mods are faggots.
>>721627249It doesn't take too long to set up because of how fast Hornet moves. It was a lot more tedious to perform a similar setup for the flower quest in the first game.
>>721627229Genuinely makes one wonder what the fuck is their major malfunction. Why would you bother trying to spam threads about a game you don't like when it realistically does nothing to stop other people from talking about that game?
>>721626905https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kYGVZnyWFlY
>>721627263While "Lethal Company" is a game that can be challenging, it isn't accurate to say that it's designed to be exponentially more punishing in a "New Game Plus" or "Steel Soul" mode, as is the case in games like Hollow Knight or Sekiro. The core gameplay loop of Lethal Company is built around a progressive difficulty curve that naturally gets harder as you advance, but there isn't a designated mode that significantly alters the base mechanics to make them more punishing for subsequent playthroughs. The user's comparison to Hollow Knight and Sekiro doesn't apply to Lethal Company.It seems there might be a misunderstanding or a mixing up of games in the user's prompt. The systems and mechanics described—such as "Silk Arts," "Godhome," "Needolin," and "Lost Lace"—are features of the game Hollow Knight: Silksong, which is the sequel to Hollow Knight. These are not mechanics found in Lethal Company.Let's address the points made in the user's prompt, assuming they are referring to Hollow Knight: Silksong.Difficulty and Systems in Hollow Knight: SilksongThe user's critique of Hollow Knight: Silksong's difficulty and mechanics suggests that the game is balanced for experienced players, making the initial, blind playthrough overly punishing. This is a common point of discussion in the gaming community regarding sequels to notoriously difficult games. * Silk Arts and Tools: The user points out that the Silk Arts (healing) and Tools (ranged attacks, utility) are balanced in a way that discourages new players from using them effectively. They argue that the high cost of healing (Silk Arts) in a game where you're learning enemy movesets makes it a less viable option compared to spells. This is a valid observation; in many "Soulslike" or "
I fucking hate this place.
>>721627374Then leave nigga
>>721627362>>721627374He's technically optional. By default you just Metal Gear your way from underneath one platform to another to protect yourself from the acid spit until you make it across, and as soon as you get the dash you can just outrun him. But progress is not in that direction at all.You should be going to Far Fields.
>>721627249With the double jump and flea juice it is really trivial and actually quite forgiving. You can even get hit once or twice and still make it if you just take the right path.
What do after 100%? Wait for DLC? Not doing Steel Soul.
>>721627263>>721627362Metroidvania" games, players new to a boss will prioritize survival over offense, but the game's systems may not always reward this approach. The cost of red tools (projectiles and other items) also seems to be a point of frustration, as it discourages experimentation during a first playthrough. This can create a disconnect where the most effective use of a mechanic is only discovered after the player has already mastered the game, which is counter-intuitive. * Grinding and Gimmicks: The user's concern about the amount of grinding needed to acquire all the tools is a fair critique of games with extensive upgrade paths. If a player feels they must grind for currency to experiment with different builds, it can detract from the core gameplay loop. The example of the Needolin costing silk to use is cited as a mechanic that seems to have been added to prevent "cheese" strategies discovered by highly skilled playtesters, which can feel unfair to the average player.It's a common challenge for developers to balance a game for both new players and veterans of the series. If a game is designed to be a challenge for the most dedicated players, it risks alienating those on their first playthrough. The user's post highlights the tension between designing a game with deep, complex mechanics and making those mechanics accessible and rewarding for a first-time player. While the user's claims are based on a game that is not yet released, the concerns are valid within the context of game design.
>>721627283Ah i'm talking about hk1, sksong is its own beast (with flaws)
>>721627450I'll have to be honest, I'm pretty disappointed by Silksong. I'm in the middle of act 3 and strongly considering dropping the game after Crust King Khann.All the great things I enjoyed about HK are still in Skong and in many ways greatly refined and improved, but watered down by a sea of tedious garbage that seems to be in the game just because the devs though "well this is a soulslite and a sequel, so we gotta inflate the difficulty, hurr", without considering there's a difference between presenting the player with a difficult challenge to overcome and disproportionately punishing them for attempting it.Dying 20 times to a boss and having to try over and over, paying attention to their moveset to learn timings and openings? Great! I love it!Dying to the boss and having to go through a lengthy and tedious runback, being forced to farm shards, and/or having to fight waves of trash mobs that for some idiotic reason are sandwiched between boss phases? Fuck off, you're just wasting my time.Crust King Khann was particularly egregious because the enemy gauntlet before him was extremely tedious and unfun, and the bossfight you are rewarded with at the end is disappointingly dogshit easy, first tried him and barely got hit.HK was a 8.5/10 game for me, and up to the end of Act 2 Skong is a 7/10. I'd rather just pretend the game ends there than endure more Act 3 bullshit and watch the rating drop further.
>>721627325other devs are mad because the $20 price tag, 2 week release notice, and amount of content in the game all make them look badthen you have the usual crowd desperate for another TORtanic
>>721627435the "acquire 8 silver bells" side quest? otherwise not really, everything else requires minimal amounts of farming at worst.
>>721627374If you don't have them yet, got but ascendant grip and the flint.Ascendant grip so you don't slide off walls for better control, and the flint that sets your needle on fire also counts as a warming tool, which helps stave off the cold.You were nearly at a bench by the way.
>>721627558I read all of this and disagree with most of itFirst of all being that the world is harder to explore and that it punishes you for exploring it. This is simply not true. The movement options you get vastly outweigh any amount of difficulty caused by "flowers" being further apart. You were filtered by the sideways pogo and hunters march. The game encourages you to explore by giving you different options for you to see which you are most comfortable with. The two mask damage is completely fine because the game is balanced around you being able to heal 3 masks at a time, very quickly, and in the air. In the first game the time it took for you to heal 3 masks was nearly twice as long as hornet's bind and you had to be on the ground. Thus, damage was lesser because it wouldn't be fair otherwise. Both games are balances properly
>>721627508>Muckmaggot>Have to kill like 200 to get its journal entry>"What the fuck?">[spoier]Chuck a Volt vessel in and instantly gets the entry[/spoiler:lit]Based.
>>721625195This falseflagging is just ridiculous. Tried to claim that all anti-e33 posts were somehow from Nintendo fans too.
>>721627518100% it. I've already done it.
>>721627223Lol noSubhumans are, by definition, inferior to humans, which pretty much means they're not humanWhat better way is there to refer to such a disgusting, inhuman abomination?
>>721627558>and the flint that sets your needle on fire also counts as a warming tool,WHATARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS
>>721619562My biggest gripe with hk. Its overall a decent game, but its so fucking egregiously annoyingly tedious at some points. Even some bosses and gauntlets are just endurance marathons. It can be very on point, but it has that aimless wandering fatigue towards the end.Also, why is everything so cryptic? I finished it for the first time, defeating HK and was okay. then /v/ told me its not a real final boss, you have to equip one specific charm (which was a pain in the ass to get), got to the farthest point, break secret wall, dreamnail this and that etc... then fight HK. Nigga, I'm so tired of bullshit uber cryptic specific fromslop stuff
>>721627595The reason why SilkSong is so polarizing is because its difficulty crosses the line of frustration. This is due to, probably, as other anons suggest, the dev team becoming too good at their own game, and balancing it around themselves, which, over the period of 7 years of development, made the game imbalanced for newer players.But this is only theory. Lets examine in detail. Take for example the platforming challenges in the early game. The player will notice a few things right away. The first instances have flowers that are meant to be pogo'd, they are evenly spaces so that the player can hold the forward button, and press attack on time, and will likely pogo into each flower consecutively. This is not the case for the later platforming sections, as the flowers are conspicuously misplaced, either too far, or too close. The player can no longer hold the forward button and expect the pogo chain to work first try, he will have to hover mid air, or dash, or maneuver himself somehow to ensure that the next flower is properly hit and pogo'd.This example puts in evidence the underlying philosophy of the game design in SilkSong, which consists of countering the player's toolkit. This is the difference between Hollow Knight and its sequel. In Hollow Knight, we are given a world to explore, and a character to explore it with. In SilkSong, we are given a world, a character, and an ocean of traps and hardships designed to counter that specific character. This is why it is so often perceived as frustrating and tedious, the game offers tools, and, instead of allowing an easy and instant gratification, it counters said tools immediately, with almost no room to explore or experiment before that.(cont...)
>>721627575are you guys fucking stupid? The argument isn't it's hard, or difficult, or very weird timing; it's that you have to do it twenty times at least before beating the boss. That whittles down your irl strength and needlessly spaces out attempts against the boss itself.
>>721627595They were, or, at least, a significant portion of the.
>>721627598The person you're replying to is a tranny spamming random posts in response to other posts as a confusing form of shitpostingIn answer to your question, if you're not interested in steel soul, try a regular speedrun
>>721627639>>721627595the run back is an extension of the boss. you must master it just like the rest of the boss fight. its basically just phase 1 of the fight.if we get rid of the run back, why not also just put a checkpoint after phase 1? after all, you're going to have to do phase 1 over and over again just to practice phase 2.Anonymous Tue 23 Sep 2025 12:46:37 No.721465301 Report>>721627701
>>721627621I wasn't aware either. It can't be helped. I'm at least making sure to pass along the information so other people can take advantage. It's pretty fucking useful since even without tool punch upgrades you've got what, 3 usages of it?
>>721619071I liked that Phantom is a literal anime character.
>>721627660This is where the 2 masks damage issue comes in, it is designed to punish the player with huge setbacks, a tradition carried over from the previous title, and also copied from souls games. However, both, the previous title, and souls game, were built to allow more room for error. This is not the case for SilkSong, the player is, for most of the game, effectively on a 3 mistakes in a row punishment system. The benches are noticeable farther apart. The world is larger and harder to traverse. The game exacerbated its punishment mechanics, seemingly for no reason, with only one measure to counter balance it, in the form of a late game item that lets the player retrieve their cocoon from the distance. Players are expected to die more often than in the previous game, and the punishment is harsher. The corpse runback is a mechanic built by games that were much more linear and self contained in their exploration and it comes off as tedious and annoying in the world of Silk Song.All of this translates into a game that gives the player tools to overcome it, but also, unrealistically expects the player to have immediate mastery of said tools. The player is expected to put up with the punishments for failing a challenge, and try again. This challenge and punishment mechanic is at odds with a game that also focuses heavily on exploration of a huge intricate world, a world full of branching paths and secret tunnels. It's here were the game conflicts with itself and deliver what is often perceived as a frustrating experience.In conclusion, the world of Silk Song is one that wants to be explored, but at the same time, it pushes the player back at every step. People that only care about difficulty find the challenge to be its own reward. People that want to explore the world, find a challenge without reward.
Whenever someone starts talking about Silksong being hard or difficulty, I just look at this image.
Sounds like the schizo spammer wants more silksong threads
>>721627595>Tried to claim that all anti-e33 posts were somehow from Nintendo fans too.They are.
>>721627325>Why is there so much seething about this game in particular?Borderlands 4 released lately with a 70 dollar pricetag and up to 120 dollar pricetags for enhanced editions. The game runs like shit and is worse than 3, already started with mixed reviews on Steam after the shills did their best to sell it here. And they failed. Now they seethe at people enjoying a game released on the same month as Borderlands. Could be actual shills, or just the average schizo being mad for something they don't like.
>>721627715Why haven't we started killing those things? The suicide rate is not high enough.
>>721627606Yeah if you could send it up behind you after hitting the bottom it’d save time. I understand why they DIDN’T for that area (so you couldn’t skip the loop-around on your first run through) but it’s annoying not just being able to drop straight in.
>>721627739>>721627792>find Cogwork Clapper "miniboss">the reward is a unique destructible-for-shell-shards item...okay?
>>721627815Why do PC """"players"""" unironically install mods that let you take half damage, skip runbacks, etc. and still tell themselves (and others) that they beat the game?
>>721627890no, but to be fair the karak platforming is designed to be done with pogo alone, also a lot of the late game platforming sections have flying enemies that you are expected to clawline into. You have to guess from there you can also clawline spikeballs in general, since spikeballs are usually meant to be pogoed also
>>721620396Act 3 actually has a massive amount of content. Like, I was surprised by how much game there was left still.
>>721619071>>721627753Phantom is by far the best voice acting for a boss. His fucking voice lines were the chuuniest shit I've seen in a video game and Silksong isn't even Japanese.
>>721627804Even then the dream nail allowed you to get a spell's worth of soul from an enemy in a single hit with diminishing returns on future hits. Useful on the failed champion who didn't give soul on hit until stunned and uumuu who you couldn't attack until its weak point was exposed. It also doesn't cancel stun.
I never got kidnapped and eventually I found the key for The Slab and explored it that way, was it a unique enemy that kidnapped you? I didn't come across anybody with a cage or anything like that
>>721627964>>721627995High Halls arena enemies should drop their rosaries. This alone would probably solve a good chunk of needed to grind for rosaries to buy out the merchants.Heck, let arenas drop their drops in general. I don't see why they don't.>People will use it for grinding.Good? The fact that one needs to grind in the first place is kinda a problem.
>>721627753She was awesome, I hope we get an enhanced young version of her in an inevitable godhome-style update
>>721627890Please stop replying to me, freak.
>>721627935Khann is easy, the three gauntlets beforehand are harder, but after the third you can break a rock that makes a shortcut past them.Then there's the little gauntlet before him, but it's pretty manageable.Khann himself though is a bunch of incredibly telegraphed attacks that leave incredibly generous opportunities to hit him. Honestly one of the more fun bosses because of it, only time a gauntlet before a boss wasn't unmitigated cancer, like Groal.Anonymous Tue 23 Sep 2025 13:25:18 No.721468246 Report
>>721628035I also only just started act 3. HK is 10/10. SS is 10/10. It's only seen as harder if you try to play SS like HK; Hornet is faster and has a completely different arsenal at her disposal than the knight. Playing her like the knight will punish you, hard. The first sinner exemplifies this where you're meant to aggressively run and dash into her for attacks. The hunter crest feels natural to hornet and I suspect many bosses were designed with her diagonal slash in mind. I honestly find it EASIER than HK since I instinctively play aggressively
>>721628017Her and first sinner are the two I most want rematches for.
>>721618947>climbing mount fay with broodmother moaning in the background>the moaning getting more dim the higher you climbkino
>>721619071>skabeedabo
>>721628019the dream nail was actually really fucking good because it built a ton of soul, especially with the charm for it, and since it did 0 damage you could get to full soul off a single weak enemy, even between gauntlet wavesThe needolin is a cool idea except that it just does nothing, but I'm not really sure what they could have made it do instead. Just generating silk as you play would be too broken, and the way it works it isn't really suited for doing damage or using during platforming.Maybe make it give you a small buff if you play it for a few seconds, that could change depending on what crest you have equipped or something, but even that would get kinda annoying reapplying it at the start of every fight.
>>721627995Nah, the Wardenflies aren't unique. The ones with cages only appear once and stop appearing after you get kidknapped or find the Apostate Key, but you still get regular Wardenflies spawning in the jail
>>721628089How do I get to the top of The Slab? I keep trying to float there from the top of Mount Fey but there's a pillar blocking me.
>>721627995The enemy that kidnaps you is in some random room in the far fields just below the hunter march, you have to pogo off an enemy to get up there unless you come back later with the wall climb
>>721628110It feels like one of the devs noticed an empty space on the map and decided to slap together something to fill it in. Ducts feel the same way actually, like they could've put the fleatopia lake on the edge of bilewater but instead decided to add another area to let you go from bilewater to the upper citadel just because.
>>721628084First Sinner is such a kino fight. Having Widow's theme play during it was also a great joy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xo_ZAUVtkQ
>>721628134you need apostle key or something from bilewater
>>721628147She needs redeeming Lace DLC. Lace canonically murdered untold numbers of bugs out of pure whimsy and never really had to pay any price for it. She needs to work toward redemption instead of having all of that be swept under the rug.
>>721628147There's more than one. I got captured by one in greymoor.
>>721628129>>721628147I see, thanks. I did a fair bit of backtracking during my playthrough, it's odd that I never came across one of those guys
>>721628194Conches are really fucking good for mob fights.Also using conches is like putting conchflies to work picking my cotton WHICH IS WHERE THEY FUCKING BELONG I HATE THEM SO MUCH
>>721628207Some variant of NG+ that lets you use different tools/crests early but adjusts the earlier enemies so the game isn't a complete pushoverMainly I just want more things to use the later crests on. Shaman comes so late even if you get it asap, and Witch requires going really out of your way to get if you want it early.
>>721628243The faydown cloak was a mistakePlatforming is more fun without it, and its existence not only adds a crutch to movement, but vastly reduces the necessary use cases of the clawline considering it overlaps a lot with the dash to begin with
>>721628289A bees vs wasps war themed DLC, with Shakra joining the trip with you after figuring out her Master's death was due to some silk-mind controlled bees, or something like that. Hornet's connection with the Hive would also be a good plot point for some honey bee DLC theme.
>>721622805I used this route as I skipped Last Judge and cleared enemies ahead of time, it made it very easy.
Reminder that using an automated spambot is a bannable offense, which, if reported ny enough people, can rangeban those proxies shktposters use
How do "people" even get captured?From what I gathered, I killed that enemy and didn't know he could send you to the Slab until a friend of mine who is terrible at games told me.You all suck at this hobby, give it up.
>>721628378It feels like one of the devs noticed an empty space on the map and decided to slap together something to fill it in. Ducts feel the same way actually, like they could've put the fleatopia lake on the edge of bilewater but instead decided to add another area to let you go from bilewater to the upper citadel just because.
>>721628339>>721628339>>721470228The real mistake was the super jump. Compared to the crystal dash, it's way less useful and cool. In Hollow Knight, you can tell that they designed the map around it, while in Silksong it's garbage for traversing regular areas due to lack of i-frames.>>721628286
>>721628147>>721628243There's also a third spot in Bilewater, it was the one that got me captured in my first playthrough.
>>721628386I literally just got a warning for reporting it. So no, they're not going to get banned because the jannies are in on it.
The Hunter's Crest is too good. Shit feels like a race car, perfectly torqued.
>>721628432First Sinner is such a kino fight. Having Widow's theme play during it was also a great joy.[YouTube] Silksong OST - Widow (embed)
>>721628386Video games dont owe you being beatableIf it's too hard for you, consider not playing rather than attempting to change the experience for everyone else to suit your tasteIf you go to a rock music concert, do you start screaming at the band and demanding they play light jazz instead because the rock is giving you a headache?Perhaps shut the fuck up, thereever>Blud thinks I automate shitYou ain't seen shitYOU AIN'T SEEN SHITyou want automation? I'LL GIVE YOU AUTOMATION
>>721628390The jailer flies have a specific attack, which upon successfully landing on you, gets you captured. I got caught when I was unware of the entire slab sequence being even a thing so it was purely out my own lack of skill at dodging that attack. It is kind of funny how good players might miss the entire sequence on their first blind playtrougs of the game by just killing the jailer flies.
>>721628534I don't think there's a problem with difficult games. Difficult games can be a lot of fun if you're looking for a tough challenge.The problem with Silksong's difficulty is that it's designed in an asshole kind of way. Bosses with moves designed to make you run into them, contact damage for bosses that are stunned, a plethora of boring gauntlets of regular type enemies that offer zero reward for beating them, platforming that are just wide enough to make sprint momentum screw you over, enemy placement on runback routes that take all the tempo out of your game. Flying enemies that deliberately hover just out of range of your attacks so you have to sit there and wait until they come into range, only to psych you out and zoop out of range again the moment you move.Things like that don't make the game hard. They make the game annoying.
>>721628556descriptions, and when I didn't know, I'd ask the people around. It built a sense of community and interactivity.Map markers were a QOL improvement that just point you towards to goal, and I now almost never near quests, and basically never interact with people (especially with automatic groups for dungeons). I had way more fun earlier and it was way more memorable. You could say "but you can still do it", however knowing there is an easier solution provided for me already, means I won't, I will take the easier route.I don't have an objective answer for you what QOL improvement should be there and which shouldn't. But I definitely do have lots of examples of ones that did ruin things in retrospect, and examples of exact same ones that didn't.
>>721628556The fucker caught me with his mucus attack. I got outskilled by his disgusting nasal health.
>>721628613you need apostle key or something from bilewater
>>721628597it's fine (better than the first one where the 7 hit spinny ones spawn with RNG imho), but I did come back to it later with an upgraded nail
These are "didn't beat the game" tier for me.
>>721627249It takes like ten minutes to methodically clean the way from the Gourmand to Bellhart and three-four minutes to run it properly, so it's a fifteen minute job all in all
>>721627995Fat flies with cages, one spawns in a formerly inaccessible section between Deep Docks and the Hunter's March shortcut after you get cling.
>>721628134You can't float there, you either need to get abducted to The Slab early on or revisit it later on with the Apostate key as >>721628206 pointed out.
>>721628682Yes, the game where you have infinite heals by comparison, positioning barely matters, you have iframes, and you can stun bosses in 2-3 hits is definitely the harder one.You can run past virtually every non-boss in Elden Ring and most Soulslikes. Silksong has constant gauntlets where you have to focus on multiple enemies at the same time, and they can all kill you in 2-3 hits easily.
>>721628702I see, thanks. I did a fair bit of backtracking during my playthrough, it's odd that I never came across one of those guys
>>721628650>Game features fat ugly bastards that can incapasitate Hornet by spraying sticky goo at her.What did team chery mean by this?
>>721627937Some of the characters have Japanese voice actors, including Hornet.
>>721628770also cuteI hope whatever godmaster equivalent this game has goes more the kingdom hearts route rather than a standard boss rushA lot of these guys could use a serious tune up, and just throwing them in an endurance mode with a couple new bosses would do the game a disserviceAnonymous Tue 23 Sep 2025 14:32:47 No.721473602 Report
>>721628770>let's give the worst boss fight in the game to a dead cancer jew so nobody would be able to openly criticize it lol>>721628787in hollow knight, it's because they're infected, you can see the orange goo, they are undeadin silksong, it's because they're being controlled, you can see the silk, they're maybe undead, it's a weird spectrum, from marionetted corpses to temporarily manipulated
>>721628390It's a fucking single-player videogame, you don't owe anyone staying locked in all the god damn time, there are at least three opportunities on the map to slip up and get caught because of carelessness or being distracted
Please tell me someone else knows that you can climb (not walljump) by pressing RT/R2 on a wallI've watched literally hundreds of videos of this game since it came out and I haven't seen a single other person do this
>>721628390Same way people got captured in Bloodborne.You have a specific enemy and if it hits you with a specific attack it's off to the Gulag with you.All it takes is one moment of carelessness.I got hit by it. A friend avoided it, even though generally he is worse at the game than me.
>>721628845The flea festival is the most "we didn't have any deadlines and got absorbed in making more game" shit I've ever seenPutting a bunch of high effort unique asset combat practice minigames in a redecorated environment with its own music at the very end of the game-wide collection quest is fucking insane
>>721628708The one boss I tested them on (phantom I think?) knocked them out of the way so I went through most of the game assuming they were useless against bosses
>>721628930>>721628949So you guess noticed how the themes in both HK are mind control? HK1 people fell to the infection/Radiance and attacked others. HK2 people where controlled by the haunting/GMS. There's also the mushroom guy in both games? And all the characters, for the most part, are bugs?Is there possibly an over-arching plot of fungi being having a part in all of this mind control over the bugs throughout the land? Like entomopathogenic fungi to IRL bugs (Cordyceps and Ophiocordyceps unilateralis for example).
>>721628881It took me 40 hours to play the whole game. Wasn't even trying until Lost Lace (shitty boss).>locked inLmao
Is it me or are a bunch of replies in this thread being botted?
>>721628930You're playing a modded version retard Holy fuck I hate modNIGGERS so much
>>721627937>Phantom's singing when you play Needolinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJdIb3H7wBE&t=40s
>>721628845Was Phantom one of them?Because I swear one of his voice lines sounds like a villain saying "baka yaro"
>>721628979>That's it, that's all he does.Sometimes he jumps on you instead, so you have to be prepared to react to that and constantly keep a distance where you can walk out of it in time. And be aware you're not on a part where the roof is lower, because then his jump will be shorter. Also, if you mess up he gives you no time to heal, unless you specifically bait him to miss his combo. It's pretty much a boss fight compared to the HK club guy.
>>721628930I knew you could do this but I still just jumped anyway because it ascends you faster.
>>721628930I'm not retarded so I know this, but after playing the first game I have much more precision just using jumps, and the same probably applies to most people.
>>721628881you're replying to a spambot
Pharloom? More like Fartloom.
>>721629000Quoted By: >>721474749I don't like how OP some of the tools were towards the end of the game. It did feel like cheating when throwing a gazillion poisoned cogflys/spikes/cones at some of the bosses in act 3. You could skip the entire 2nd half of some of the fights like that, which didn't feel rewarding (and yet I couldn't resist doing it).Anonymous Tue 23 Sep 2025 14:45:36 No.721474651 Report
>>721629000Groal imo isn't THAT hard of a boss. The issue is that he's preceded by an enemy gauntlet and a long runback so your mind tricks you into being on edge when fighting him.>That's the best way to describe Silksong. It's inconsistent.I'll give you this for Savage Beast Fly and Groal, but overall I don't think RNG plays a big role in fights from my experience.>>721629097Don't care, adds are cancer no matter what. She can be number 11 at best.
>>721629000Seems that way, many replies have nothing to do with the post they reply to.
>>721629089think these two are absolute cunts.>>721629097See, that's the sort of shit I can agree with. Some QOL is babbymode for people who just want instant gratification, and I agree that it destroys the fun that can be found in working around a hurdle.Doing quests in Morrowind was a lot more fun than Skyrim because you at least had to figure some things out. There is more fun to be had in finding something out for yourself than being told what to do.There's actually not a lot of QOL I could see needing to be applied to Silksong, except maybe a shortcut on the Groal runback, because it's a shit runback, and perhaps a shard magnet like the rosary magnet, and maybe a way to get both effects on the one magnet through a quest or even just a platforming challenge.>>721629000Or just making the crawbell aquirable earlier, but it's only a third as potent until beating the Crawfather, because it's incredibly handy for shard gathering since you get shards and rosaries and there's a shardseller literally just below you.
>>721629084>offer zero reward for beating themThis is the most valid point. The number of times I beat one of these minibosses and just get fucking shards out makes me want to KMS. GIVE ME ROSARIES YOU BASTARDS!!!!>Bosses with moves designed to make you run into themThey're not going to design the moves to miss.>contact damage for bosses that are stunnedI guess this is annoying but I have no issue with it. Just learn not to run into them. And you couldn't even stand inside of a stunned enemy anyhow because it would damage you once it wakes up.>enemy placement on runback routes that take all the tempo out of your gameFair there are some that you have to beat and it gets a little annoying.>Flying enemies that deliberately hover just out of range of your attacks so you have to sit there and wait until they come into range, only to psych you out and zoop out of range again the moment you move.There's a tool in the game that has the description “good for dealing with flying enemies”.
i finally went back to that broken bench in sinner's road that i couldn't do and found out you can skip all the pogoing with clawline
>>721629159How are you this dumb?You can literally start Elden Ring with a straight sword and stunlock every boss in the game in 2-3 hits.Square Off -> Strong Attack = 40 stance damage.Most? bosses have 80 stance. Only a handful have over 120 stance.Therefore, you can stun nearly every boss in 2-3 hits.>>721629129Only a masochist or a moron does roll, r1.
>>721628534>>BludThanks for confirming that you are a literal child, sharty troon spammer
>>721629249Once again complaining does help.>break pinata>pick up the oil before everything else>all money just disappearsAmazing.
>>721629259sharty troons are so predictable it's funnybasically a simple flowchart instead of a brain
>>721629089Brother you don't even know who the spambot is anymore. It got you right in the paranoia.>>721628934>>721629049I just think it's weird that a sizeable amount of content is locked behind a literal skill issue.I wasn't forced to go through the Slab with no equipment even though I WANTED too. Didn't listen to the Red Maiden track, either.
>>721629215How is it possible to pretend that's true?Silksong has:>Constant tryhard enemies>Constant endurance enemy gauntlets in cramped arenas>Constant le epic bosses that delete you in 3 hits because>Everything does 2 damage>Constant tricky bullshit platforming>A healing system that requires you to play riskier for longer to charge itUhh, I'll think of more later.HK is pretty chill most of the time, SilkSHIT is constant tryhard stress.>>721629259Okay UNCDon't you have a will to write? Nurses to get molested by? Children to be ignored by? Alsimers to suffer from?
>>721629343I didn't even finish the first one 'cause I got filtered at some point.As for this game, similar to the first one, I like the aesthetic. I like how the map looks from the menu. The places in game are nice to look at too. I like how everyone doesn't have a real face and are bugs. Really helps with my autism (I dislike seeing real faces). The music is chill too. It feels essentially perfect to be in.In terms of game play, for a game where one battles strong enemies or challenges to progress, I feel it falls short when it comes to being fun. As you can guess from someone filtered by HK1, I'm not that good a player, but I still put in work to get better at a game. I can die hundreds of times to get better, and I can enjoy the process. (Picrel is my Titan Souls saves). Silksong, however, doesn't feel supportive of a player getting better. Rather, it punishes for being bad. The long run backs that eat more of your time than the actual boss does, having to do arenas all over when one loses at a special last wave, tools having currency limiting how much one can practice, experiment or fail with them, environmental hazards doing double damage, arenas that don't drop loot. All this stuff makes it tedious for me as I try to improve at the game. Rather than a feeling of "keep trying and git gud", Silksong gives me "Be gud, or give up" feeling. Because of this, I don't feel too favorably about it.
>>721629343721476127 Report>Hollow Knight 1 is a pretty good game, but nothing mindblowing>NPCs hail it as the crown jewel of all of gaming>Silksong is better in almost every single way>NPCs are just constantly crying and bitching about every little thing they got filtered byYep, that about checks out. Feels good having superior
>>721629412I hate Sherma"Wholesome chungus bait" characters are the worst
>>721629365Use the wall on the bottom right to then claw shot to the left and then double jump up.One of the only puzzles I had to look up so far.
>>721629343>he respondedyou make it way too easy lil bro
>>721629480In every single Hollow Knight ending you get taken back to before the final boss, there is no extensive conclusion and you just have to infer things. Up until the Silksong true ending people still argued back and forth on if the Knight could even contain the Radiance. None of the endings were 100% conclusive. Silksong is the same with 3 different endings, and its very possible the dlc adds more.
>>721629445You can send the elevator up and then immediately jump down, get into the passage in the elevator shaft walls you had to break open earlier, wait for the elevator to pass and jump straight down, much faster that way. When you get down stand on the button for a second to send the elevator back down so you can do it again on the next attempt.
>so mad he can't even spell alzheimer'suh oh he tried to ragebait and ended up having the melty himselfya hate to see it backfire
>>721625513>>721629561No, I mean how the initial non-Haunted civilization exist? They built Deep Docks, they had the whole culture with music, bells and stuff. If GMS' nature demands turning everyone into mindless marionettes capable only of retaining leftover habits they had in life, how does Pharloom exist? Zombie marionettes can't build this.Was GMS' willpower stronger than Hornet's, so she resisted her true nature for a few centuries, where people were her servants while they still retained their minds and bodies?
>>721627792E33's gameplay very much resembles Nintendo's RPGs. Even more so than Final Fantasy or whatever else. Nintendo fans like E33.
>>721625865I used reaper all my run because I got so fed with ants running into me barely being affected by nail swings but it's so fucking bad, almost every one is bad in comparison really, wanderer didn't need the crit and it didn't need to combo with the dice, turns crests from options with pros and cons to one being the absolute best, and to top it off architect is probably the second best nail oneand worse, all you need for wanderer is a simple key or climbing, and it's right next to the first areaI know what I'm grinding towards when I start another run
>>721629445During the climb, I thought she was going to lose her faith and become a cynic but she was all dandy once she got to the Citadel and then became the priest after the snails do the trick. Bummer.>>721629486Stop trying to think you're smart. The tranny bot is replying to me.
>>721629689It scales perfectly fine through Act 2. The range and moveset reduce risk and improve chances for survival, not everyone needs to play the glass cannons. Yes, there's better options by Act 3 and Reaper's strengths stop being as advantageous.
So what the shit was all this about?
>>721629685Kill the flying guy as soon as possible, don't be afraid to take a hit or two to do it since you'd take more if he lives any longer. It shouldn't take more than a few second to burn him that way, then you can focus on the other guy.I'm assuming you're talking about the first arena after the platforming and not the fight above the rest bench? Either way, just kill the flying asshole as soon as possible. If you're in early game, just go back a little later. There's two good items there but they're not worth going through that hell without the first few upgrades/tools.>>721629821Triple daggers is a nice all-rounder for a single tool for Wanderer, gives you range and can multiple opponents or a big guy multiple times,
>>721629000>>721629089>>721629159>>721629343>>721629689the only way to finish the job is by working togetherautomated botposting is a very grave offense, after all, and a proxy getting rangebanned is a net positive
>>721629821Hopefully, DLC. GREYroot I assume is some new kind of higher being.Not pale/white. Not void/black.
>>721629821You got impregnated with a silk eating abomination and then let it eat a silk god.
>>721629821Hornet's rape baby consumes all the silk and emerges as a godzilla monster
>>721629840they're quite easy, they only have 3 movesthe first is a charge, the spikes appear next to them after they bump into the wall, as long as you are horizontal to them they'll do thisthe second is a foot smash, where the spikes appear from below you, this one happens when you're on the ground and like half the room away from themand the third is a jump where spikes appear on both sides after they fall, this happens usually when you're aboveI just pogo once, move back midair, and go back to pogo, this gives enough delay to see if they're gonna jump, which is the only attack that can threaten you midair
>>721629821Devs played Elden Ring and liked the idea behind the Frenzy ending
>>721629946All kino ideas, some of which I've shared myself in similar greentext. Act IIII NEEDS to happen>restore the Coral Grove to former glory>bring verdania back from extinction, with a new STRAIGHT Prince this time>cleanse Bilewater and Putrid Ducts of the filth caused by the citadel>reunite the Ant tribe under a strong leader via a mantis lords esque duel>fleatopia expands after finishing their festival and grows into a bigger town>bellhart is properly repaired, bone bottom is fixed, songclave, etc.>justification for why boogs are still hostile is either remenant silk from the haunting, OR, without a pale being at the center of the land, they begin to lose sentience and return to base instinct? Im sure there's a better way to go about this desu>Lace helps you with all of this, now more of a tsun personality>>silly Spider. Why are we still here? Pharloom is lost. Anyone who can't see that and chooses to stay deserves whatever fate comes>>Many bugs have perished because of our mistakes, child. I will not rest until my actions have aved more than they have hurt. I vowed to not let this land fall into darkness. Now, I vow to see it brought to light. We are not yet done attoning for our sins, Lace.>80h long threesome sex scene between Hornet and Lace and Sherma
what's with the random unrelated replies to things? is some retard really having that much of a meltdown?
>>721624746No, I mean how the initial non-Haunted civilization exist? They built Deep Docks, they had the whole culture with music, bells and stuff. If GMS' nature demands turning everyone into mindless marionettes capable only of retaining leftover habits they had in life, how does Pharloom exist? Zombie marionettes can't build this.Was GMS' willpower stronger than Hornet's, so she resisted her true nature for a few centuries, where people were her servants while they still retained their minds and bodies?
>>721629647How would they know?They haven't played it since it didn't release on the shitch pooHell, next time you see a E33 thread, start shitting on nintendo and see how long it takes for a seething tendie to reply to you (even though there is no reason for one to be in an E33 thread)
>>721630034Some seethelord is botting the thread
>>721630059Look at the background. There are many (blurry) crooked and half-fallen bell-homes. When you do all the "repair" donations, they're all straight (until Act 3, which obliterates everything)
>shreds big bosses for you
>>721629978Act IV just has to hijack Hornet's plans to undo the void. Instead of getting the flower and fighting Lace do something else and save Lace some other way.
Randy is really having a meltie lmao
>>721629821The Greyroot is a parasitoid. I think it's based on some parasitic barnacles that literally turn into a tree-like structure when they're inside their host (usually a crab, pic related). If you get this ending you presumably let it infect a god.
>>721626170POSHANKA
>>721630075>>721630187Okay, I"m starting to understand the complaints youtubers have made over difficulty but they really suck at articulating it. Runbacks like the one in Bilewater, benches in later areas requiring rosaries where there aren't enemies that drop them, and tools needing fragments aren't great. You have to deal with most of that through grinding. In the case of rosaries you sometimes need to go grind in an earlier area just to run back to the bench and activate it. This kind of stuff is less difficult and more disrespectful. Outside of that I don't think the core gameplay is particularly hard which is why the complaints didn't make sense to me at first.
>>721630178Didn't its max hit count get nerfed?
>>721629821>So what the shit was all this about?
>>721629689You're not fooling anyone, botboyYou're so transparent it hurts
>>721627427>flea juiceWait wait, the flea juice makes you RUN FASTER??D-does that stack with the silkspeed anklets???
>>721630295Seems like a lot got changed, cut, moved around or what not. I'd be curious if the "Mansion on the Moor" became Craw Lake and just how different the Lifeblood Spire was from Wormways. Also although there's no way to tell, it's interesting that it seems those worshipping the Void and the Snails were two separate groups since the Void Cult's up in Greymoor while there's a Spiral Sanctuary near what I'm assuming became the Ruined Chapel.Not entirely surprised that the Coral Gorge is a thing, although it does make me wonder how late into development Blasted Steps and Sands of Karak were added. Also I wonder what the original intention was for the two towers, would they have both been like High Halls originally?The "Song Eater Lair" sounds pretty interesting, at the very least it doesn't sound as annoying as Bilewater.
>>721630241>POSHANKA taunt doesn't cost silkneat
>>721630309Yes and yesBut it stacks so little that the difference is basically nonexistent.It does unlock a secret though
>tfw I did High Hall arena first tryI know the last wave is cheap but I don't get why everyone complains so much. There's walls you can jump on to avoid the AoEs and you should have clawline for movement/i-frames, although I don't think I was even using clawline in combat at that point.
>>721630034>>721630075see >>721629840
>>721630309yes
>>721630309Yes. Beware as you WILL run into walls.
>>721627427I got hit 4 times and made it, lmaoGranted they were ideal hits because it was right as that section of the timer was about to expire, so the hit barely cost me any time, but still
>>721630393I made it to last wave on my first try. Keep in mind this is a new enemy, and there's suddenly not much room. Small things witled me down. Did a pogo and one of them jumped into it. They also kept alternating hits between one another. Was a pain to even be able to get near them. Eventually they got me.>>721630407Probably which every one makes the biggest necklace. It seems the price for any is +20 rosaries. Maybe Frey 'cause she does the 120+20 necklaces? Idk if Julibiana does a better one though.
>>721619327its fucking terrible. getting around the map is tedious, every enemy having the same 3 moves makes them way worse (they go from literally every enemy in the game having a unique moveset to having massive overlap in their moves) and they have bloated hp, the actual main questline is annoying backtracking and the areas feel very rushed; it's pretty clear theyre some kind of cut/reused contentand to top it all off the true ending final boss is a third use of the tutorial duelist boss who has zero story presence and no appeal to anyone outside gooners and the only changes to her moveset are the same fucking three attacks every enemy in the act getsact 3 is a genuine fucking disaster that almost ruined the game for me. i cannot believe the game launched with it when they had 7 years to do literally anything else
>>721630480What's the lore behind two fat dudes crammed in a little hut pining for roach guts?>>721630506Imagine grabbing Lace's ass made of pure silk. Anonymous 09/20/25(Sat)22:19:08 No.539780865>>539734435>t.trannoid cuck
>>721630393I get the feeling a lot of people suddenly forget that movement options like wall cling, needle throw and glide exist during combat.
>>721630506>it's pretty clear theyre some kind of cut/reused contentIt very obviously is, I'm sure they had whole areas planned for the heart bosses but doing so would have taken another 5 years
>>721630552No you can literally run and glide past it, you can look it up. The camera is locked but you can move outside the arena. And you can skip Sister Splinter really easily too via taunting a bug down with Garama and using it to pogo in the room with the harp.
How TF are people using tools in this game? Is there something later on that makes them better (I'm just past the start of act 2)? I haven't been using them because they seemed to do shit all damage whenever I've tried them.Same goes for the crests. They all seem kinda shit and annoying or cheesy compared to the default one.
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>>721619071All these replies have obviously never heard Styx's singing voice
>>721627325>why are people seethingBecause it’s good. /v/ hates good games.
>>721630790That's all proof of your degenerated mind, my advice for you is to either stop using the internet for a few weeks or exclusively use /v/ from now on
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>>721630893>noooooo you HAVE to argue against my mental illness! YOU HAVE TOOOOOO!!!lol>>721630958Im stuck at that area in hunters marsh with the final miniboss flying and spear guy, how the fuck am I suppose to dodge in all that chaos
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>>721631050Kill the flying guy as soon as possible, don't be afraid to take a hit or two to do it since you'd take more if he lives any longer. It shouldn't take more than a few second to burn him that way, then you can focus on the other guy.I'm assuming you're talking about the first arena after the platforming and not the fight above the rest bench? Either way, just kill the flying asshole as soon as possible. If you're in early game, just go back a little later. There's two good items there but they're not worth going through that hell without the first few upgrades/tools.
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>>721630393I just hate gauntlets. Every room should have just had a checkpoint after beating it, idk why anybody would ever want to repeatedly beat the same easy rooms over and over again.Same thing with P5 in Hollow Knight. There's that shield fucker that can RNG you, there's Grimm and there's the Hollow Knight and obviously AbsRad. Every other boss in the gauntlet is a meme and a timewaster. I can be convinced to include Zote as a hard fight too but I did get his gold statue before P5 so I found him to be very easy.
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I'm at 98%, found all the enemies, just need 2 spools and a craftmetal left. I swear I went through this map with a fine comb, and dread the idea of looking again for a random ass secret passage. Are there any cues in game where these are (like, for enemies you can figure out the area by where they are on the list) or is there really nothing more than just to backtrack endlessly if I don't wanna look it up?
I just beat the last boss and got the credits and hmm... that's it? After HK and the Radiance you got some post game DLC. I haven't explored like 3 or 4 zones at all yet. Is there no harder bosses or content to do after this?
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>>721631328Reaper is the cheesy one. I got like two of those upgrades but IDK if tools do any good damage. Doesn't really seem like it but it's hard to tell. It seems like you're meant to play the game just hitting things so I don't really get the point of tools. If the needle upgrades are anything like the nail ones in HN then it seems like it's going to way outstrip the tools in terms of damage no matter what, given they have four upgrade slots. I know about the poison charm and I always have it equipped just because I figure I might as well but it seems to not do much of anything.Do you know if the actual numbers on tool damage are available anywhere?
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>>721631328>Maybe you should spend your time on something more productive than shitposting in Silksong threads.Anon, maybe you should spend your time being less of a buzzkill. Who the fuck asked for your unsolicited advice? If I wanna jerk off to loli pics while talking about Silksong, that's my fucking business. Go back to your safe space or something, asshole.
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>>721631543>What are the janitors doing, they were rather quick in cleaning up the furry porn but now that the spammer has dropped any pretense and just posts obvious word salad they do nothing?It's mind boggling to me just how bad people are at the gameThe problem with silksong is that while there IS room for criticism on certain topics, the vast majority of people who complain about those issues are fucking retarded. You ask them to post gameplay and they'll post the absolute most dogshit playing with the worst possible build going up against a moderately difficult boss where they make no attempt at all to learn the moveset or evade damage. You ask them to point to a "runback" they think is bad and they'll say the conchfucker fight where you have to start from the bench all the way at the right side of karak or they won't mention the hidden bench in bilewater. There are people who missed the shortcut in coral tower. There are people who deliberately walk around the game and go into boss fights with 2k fucking beads and then get mad at the game when they lose it all. They dont bother using silk eaters or turning beads into strings, they just risk 100% of their rosaries and claim it's bad design when they die.You notice this after engaging with them for a while. I can't take any criticism for the game seriously because 90% of the critics are literally just dogshit at the game. I clicked on a video to about the "5 heckin worst runbacks in silksong" and this dumbass said the wisp thicket to father of flame was the 3rd worst runback in the game. Nigger, it's literally a long flat corridor with 2 enemies you can jump over. or the far fields lava escape, which are genuinely difficult, though. Speaking of arenas, one anon did the high halls gauntlet without sitting on the bench in high halls one room over, meaning he ran all the way from songclave. These are the people who criticize the game. Absolute troglodytes
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>>721631672I'm tired of people acting like this game has bad runbacks when its literally just Groal. Meanwhile Hollow Knight had Mantis Lords, Soul Master, Crystal Guardian, Nosk, Traitor Lord...people dont bring them up because the bosses are easy as fuck and the fight mechanics were solved years ago.
>>721630686Tacks and Cogfly. Once you get them, the game shits itself.
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>>721631773lmao loserlike everything in this game, this part was unnecesarry long, and for what I read about silk song, it feels like team cherry doubled donw on the tedious part of the game
>>721631660the game is pretty flawed
>>721631312>or is there really nothing more than just to backtrackWell... you can use a save file check for completion rate to help you find the remaining pick ups>if I don't wanna look it up?Then you are fucked.
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>>721619071Act 3 shouldn't even existall the mandatory act 3 bosses could just be optional Act 2 bosses and nothing would change.all the optional act 3 bosses (and items) could just be acessible in Act 2 and it would only improve the pacing of the game.
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>>721630686People not using tools is why we have eight gorillion posts all over the internet bitching and whining about how hard the game is
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>>721632252>>721632329Thanks for making silksong so popular hereBet the mods will let these threads stay on /v/ forever with how much discussion it generates
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>>721619327I liked it, it was a breath of fresh air compared to act 2 taking its time. I kinda also triggered it late since didn't talk with the fleas troupe for a while, meaning I spent a chunk of Act 2 just going in circles, wondering if that was it. Act 3 revitalized my interest in the game for me, loved the tidbits associated to it. I liked a lot figuring out how to get to the new areas, finding the top of the map, starting to get mementos, and just finally having the map change other than in worm ways. Sure, bit cheap to add the same attack on all void enemies now, and would've liked more unique bits tied to it rather than some random side stuff you find, but it more than makes up for it with the highlights of the act.
>>721632835I prefer to go to Greymoor via the simple key into Wormways/Shellwood/Bellhart or with the flea caravanFar Fields is an afterthought and I only go there because the Drift Cloak is needed for ClawlineI don't care about speedrunning, I just want to experiment with weird/minimal routes through the game Anonymous 09/23/25(Tue)23:32:13 No.540143049Fuck Lost Lace. Anonymous 09/23/25(Tue)23:37:21 No.540143586>>540144621 >>540154163>>540142034>wisp thicket into act 2Sick. Wouldn't have thought of this. So we have:Main: Front Gates / Last JudgeAlt: Bilewater / PhantomExpert: Wisp Thicket.Is it possible to get to it from The Slab? The Slab is open top, right? Can one fall/float down from the top to the citadel? Other than that, are there no other ways? P.Ducts is blocked.
>>721632887>>540148698Why the fuck did they not use Hornet's theme anywhere in the game? It's on eof the best tracks in HK, it's literally the main character's theme, the fact that it was just straight up omitted is a travesty.And no, that lame-ass cover does not count. Anonymous 09/24/25(Wed)00:37:54 No.540149712both games have shit music Anonymous 09/24/25(Wed)00:38:59 No.540149814>>540162576 >>540164767 >>540270808Bro the skarrsinger is legit fucking my ass, I can't with the combination of block on neutral, overhead that will fuck you unless you're in neutral when it starts and just how little she's willing to take hits in general, I'm going insane, died like 30 times already, only other boss that made my brain boil so hard was Groal
>>540148698While I do think HK had more overall better ost, Silksong still have some good ones. Karmelita and The Choir are easily my favorites[YouTube] Skarrsinger Karmelita ‐ Hollow Knight Silksong OST Official Soundtrack Original Score (embed)[YouTube] The Choir ‐ Hollow Knight Silksong OST Official Soundtrack Original Score (embed) Anonymous 09/24/25(Wed)01:10:19 No.540152998>>540148698I think Silksong has more forgettable tracks but the ones that are good are up there with Hollow Knights best. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason for that is Team Cherry constantly adding more and more to silksong over its development time and ended up pushing the limit of most of Larkin's creativity. Anonymous 09/24/25(Wed)01:18:57 No.540153839>>540148853Memorable theme songs for different maps is huge.There's a reason Greenpaths theme has become very popular in random youtube videos that has nothing to do with gaming.
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>>540155064Yeah, but still a cool tidbit to know. Anonymous 09/24/25(Wed)01:43:41 No.540156241>>540154689Thanks. Anonymous 09/24/25(Wed)01:57:20 No.54015761820250922163909_1.jpg (77 KB, 1920x1080) google yandex iqdb wait77 KBI'm excited for Larian's next game, I'm excited for team cherry to make more whatever. I've never been happier about games.I'm told Silksong will definitely get its own "Godhome", I hope we get more than a boss rush. Anonymous 09/24/25(Wed)02:14:56 No.540159284>>540160085Beast Crest + Cross Stitch is fun. I like berserker Hornet. Anonymous 09/24/25(Wed)02:16:45 No.540159467>>540146784Good drawing anon
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>>721620550I was hoping for a mockup of Hornet love tapping Lace, Lace bawling her eyes out and then Hornet consoling her (feeling bad about it).
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>>721632829Either weapons-grade autism that makes them unable to cope with things out of their control not going their way, or a literal child burning off some chaotic energy because they can, and making people mad is funny.That's how I rationalize it at least. Either unfortunate people who can't help themselves, or literal children who don't know better or have control of their impulses.
>>721634532>>721632829You are trying to find reason and rationality to a broken mind that is beyond irrational
>>721630240Oh hey it's covid.I've seen people behave so peculiar since it.
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