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>Devs ad an entire segment to the game you can miss if you are actually good at the game and don't get hit by a specific enemy attack.

What did Team Cherry mean by this?
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TC understand the appeal of losing on purpose. Hornet is one of those loser-sluts.
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>>721633393
I never saw these niggas because they don't spawm anymore after entering the prison once
Retarded game design
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>>721633393
this is another example of silksong drawing inspiration from h-games
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>>721633393
>>721633536
just make a new save file, they pretty much appear almost at the being of the game
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>>721633508
Correct answer. Silksong is a thinly veiled Eroge.
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>>721633393
She probably mated with all of them off screen. Your protagonist is a whore
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>>721633783
This entire line ruined everything about Hollow Knight for me. Look at her. Look at her succulent curves and tell me this wasn't specifically designed to elicit arousal. Tell me this isn't bait to make you desire used goods. Team Cherry is full of cucks. Every single one of those australian fucks played us for fools, making sure to design the sexiest creatures known to man, only to be met with the gut punch that they're used goods with gaping vaginas taking black cock every single day. I can't imagine the state of all Hornetfags out there who have actual standards, the hurt they must be feeling knowing their wife wasn't saving herself for them. The chinese review bombing wasn't enough. We need every possible language to review bomb these dirty fucks for taking away the purity of our bug wife. I will not be able to sleep until this justice has been undone. Make them patch it out. Make them listen to the fans for fucking once.
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>>721633654
I think that saving Bellheart is what makes them spawn.
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>>721633783
>>721633828
How long are you going to keep trying to force this?
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>>721633393
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Why is the thread autosaging?
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>>721634548
Jannies would rather delete threads than actually deal with spammers
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>>721634548
>>721634619
Retards
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>>721633828
Forced copypasta
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>>721633393
Not just that but if you enter the Slab normally at least once then the fly cage enemies all despawn so it punishes you for exploring. I missed the Lace 1 boss fight too because I explored.
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>>721633828
This is true
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>>721633393
You can find the key and get in anyway, you just miss naked hornet
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>>721633393
Where are these guys? I'm in the capital and haven't seen one of them.
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>>721633393
i saw him and immediately understood that he was a bloodborn bag man and got hit on purpose.
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>>721633675
>Tags: ugly bastard, humiliation, bondage, mind break
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>>721634883
Good. Games being different depending on what order of events you take is kino. Games need more of this.
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>>721634883
Don't you need the key from putrified ducts to even enter the Slab if you don't get caught?
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>>721633783
>once
>sought
do zoomers not know the meaning of words
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>>721635705
No. It's just opened by a lever on the Citadel side.
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>>721633393
I played Dank Souls 3 I knew it was coming as soon as I saw the cage.
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>>721635883
I did that and still got captured later by a fly in greymoor. I think the capture flies only despawn if you get the apostate's key.
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>>721633393
I mean Elden Ring did this too right?, also you can explore the rest of the Slab later if you get the key from bilewater anyways
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>>721633783
Cucksong...
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>>721634548
because it's SHIT you people are FAGGOTS you're not discussing A VIDEO GAME just die
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>>721633783
>>721633828
game for cucks
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I love all the weird missable shit in Silksong.

More games need fun stuff that the devs are okay for player to not find.
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>>721636961
The first week of the game being out and everyone discovering shit was fun as fuck. I got completely blindsighted by the slab kidnapping and it led to really cool experience with me knowing fuck all about where the fuck I was and what I had to do to escape.
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>>721637123
monkebros... not like this...
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>>721636849
But silksong is a video game.
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>the spammer still isn't banned
I guess 4chan really is cucked.
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>>721633393
>he didn't get to see hornet's full frontal bug pussy
{spoiler] real answer is dark souls 3 [/spoiler]
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>>721636961
I hope that the devs ad more secret/hidden stuff to the game via patches & dlc.
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>>721633828
Incel post. Truly pathetic.
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>>721635779
ESL-kun
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>>721634052
You can find them as soon as you get wallclimb
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I think you can still get into the slab with a key
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>>721634052
do some spawn randomly? I've only seen set spawns you can find after getting wall jump
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>>721637198
I never got to fight Sharka or Garmond in Act 2 lmao
Let alone the First Sinner which is apparently one of the best bosses in the game just completely hidden

Its insane
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>>721638353
They have specific places where they spawn I think. I got caught in the area between Deep Docks and Hunter's March but I've seen other people talk about getting caught in Greymoor.
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>>721633508
I should've made a gif of this.
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>>721638525
I missed too Garmond and I also missed Sherma in the Citadel Bath house.
And yeah, First Sinner is gigakino.
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>>721638761
Hornet snapping that fly's neck and then proceeding to murder all of his friends while this played was kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnDlcvqthpg
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>>721636601
What enemy in Elden ring can kidnap you? I don't recall encountering any or at least losing to any such foe.
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>>721639739
Virgin Abductor at the bottom of the lift in Raya Lucaria. If you die to its grabs, you end up in Volcano Manor
It's a pretty famous warp, just look up Raya Lucaria Volcano Manor
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>>721638772
>Sherma in the Citadel Bath house
Oh man you REALLY missed out. My boner STILL remembers that.
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>>721639819
Ah, I now that you mention it I recall hearing about it, I just never got caught by it myself.
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>>721639845
You think his voice actress took it on herself to do those erotic moans or did team cherry ask her to? Either way, they put it in their game.
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bonebottom > bellheart
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>>721639845
What did team cherry mean by this?
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>>721633393
>Hornet gets kidnapped into a religious ero trap dungeon
>Hornet gets defeatslutted into a prison while naked
>Hornet gets peeped by a guy while taking a bath
>Hornet gets infested with a tentacle parasite
How horny were the devs? I've seen doujins with these plots
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>>721633783
>female protagonist
>she's a whore who's tried multiple mates

it's like the female author problem in literature
give women freedom to write what they want and get pubblished
and they'll write infinite porn romances where they get beaten up and raped and used in the most sexually depraved ways
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>>721640014
Hornet sounds really cute whenever she gets hit.
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>>721640068
One thing I dislike about act 3 is that it turns pretty much every settlement into a destroyed shithole. I understand why it is so, but when I walk back to Bellhart with my 100% completion achievement and a sense of fulfillement, so I can rest Hornet in her own bed until the DLC comes, I would prefer if what welcomed me to the town wasn't the cries of that one bug
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>>721640338
M8, Silksong was developed and written by 3 dudes.
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>>721640325
Some of the game mechanics are also straight out of h-games.
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>>721640338
you're fucked in the head dude shes ancient are you expecting her to never date/fuck?
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>>721639158
It was just so peak that's its funny people can miss this kino.
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>>721640443
yeah, cause even men can't fathom women who aren't used up anymore
>>721640570
i'm expecting the bug game about bugs to not mention mating at all
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>>721640363
I wish that there was a little act 4/prologue that let you see Bonebottom, Bellheart and Songclave being repaired and the bugs you helped troughout your journey, and who survived the events of act 3 getting on with their lives. Hopefully we get something like that in a DLC.
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>>721640869
Why are you expecting that? Mental illness?
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>>721640948
epilogue*
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>>721640869
Not only did the first game address mating, it was plot relevant.
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>>721640325
There are also multiple enemies that vore you (groal, barnakls, those flying shits in the abyss)
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>>721640869
One of the main themes is parenthood (specifically motherhood and mother/daughter relationships)
It's not completely random
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>>721641005
Age labels: ESRB Everyone 10+ (North America); PEGI 7 (Europe/UK).
>>721641031
it's different when it's a character you play
i actively want hornet to lose now, i wish we could get a bad ending where she gets what she's worth
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>>721640325
>pinned down by dogs in Sinner's Road
>these flying things in the Abyss
>the grubs jumping out of the swamp in Bilewater that do the same but without flying
They sure had "too much fun" with some of the animations.
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>>721641176
You think 7-10 year olds don't know what sex is? Where the fuck are you from, Alabama?
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>>721633536
Wrong. I got captured by one of these after exploring all of parts of the prison that you can without getting any of the keys.
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>>721639158
>>721640668
>>721640668
>Each hunter's journal entry regarding the flies is just Hornet being extremely fucking racist towards them, calling them smelly, disgusting and outright stating that she hopes they would go extinct.
Lol
Lmao even.
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>>721641309
not the point
they shouldnt get indoctrinated into thinking that having multiple mates is normal
i swear someone on team cherry must be lgbtq
they're always child predators
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>>721641463
What are you implying retard that you should marry the first person you fuck?
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>>721640075
>called Silksong
>shortens to SS
>has SS
>protagonist is racist
BRAVO CHERRY
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>>721633393
Silksong is a speedtranny game, that's why.
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>>721640338
>she's a whore who's tried multiple mates
bro she's like centuries old
even an incel would get lucky a few times if they lived to be that old
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>>721641463
Nothing in that entry states that Hornet was in some polycule and with the context of the entry (it is for the elder conchfly pair) it is pretty fucking clear that Hornet is talking about monogamous relationships. You are essentially bitching about Hornet (a long lived demigod) having a series of relationships over her long life, and eventually ceasing to seek love because she kept outliving her partners.
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>>721641463
They're bugs. The games also include characters that eat one another.
Also, the context of Hornet having multiple mates is that she outlives them. A widow remarrying is completely normal and not even the most puritanical zealots object to it.
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>>721641379
I stand with Hornet on this
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>>721641463
>guy who is infected with brainrot: STOP THE INDOCTRINATION!!!!
touch grass
actually don't because "child predator" is definitely projection, please stay inside
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>>721641463
get help
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>>721641463

are these child predators in the room with us right now?
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>>721642172
Pretty sure they are actually in his room

kooks like this always projecting hard
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>>721641523
that's how it always worked when societies didn't have depression and suicide epidemics
>>721641705
not the point
>>721641719
no one normal would ever refer to "my mates"
>>721641753
no, its not normal at all
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>>721641463
>they shouldnt get indoctrinated into thinking that having multiple mates is normal
I'm 32 and I didn't even read any of the descriptions for the bugs in the journal. I would have no idea the 'multiple mates' thing was in the game had you fags not tried making a spectacle of it. A lot of people, even back in the middle ages, had multiple partners. It's not new. I've had sex with at least 10 women. Women have way more sex with way more people on average. Nobody is at risk of "getting indoctrinated" you fucking retard
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>>721641893
its not a projection
and these fucking child predators should get what they deserve on sight
instead people are literally giving them children to abuse to adopt
>>721642046
i'm fine
its faggots child predators who are surely hiding inside team cherry that should seek help
conversion therapy is real and it works
>>721642172
very likely
most probably you you fucking aids ridden faggot
>>721642372
yeah, and you'll have a shit horrible life for it. like everyone is having.
do you have a loving wife? do you have kids? do you have a normal family?
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>>721642468
I'd say have sex but please, don't reproduce.
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>>721642370
>>no, its not normal at all
meet more people, go outside rn
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>>721642782
i have had sex
which is why i hate modern women, who break up long investment for 0 reasons
and modern men who have no respect of other people's relationships
>>721643007
the more i get to know people, the more i hate them
and for good reasons
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>>721633828
Why would you lust after an immortal bug anyway anon?
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>>721640075
I forgot what his voice sounded like so I thought the baths was going to be another Tower of Love deal. Pleasantly surprised.
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>>721641379
She's oddly civil with the baby broodmother you find in her arena after the fight, though.
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>>721642370
>no one normal
Nigger she is a bug demi god who lives way longer than everyone else. What the fuck is "normal" about her?
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>>721633783
>>721633828
hornet bros.. this cant be real..
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>>721644291
loredrunk
she's a character in a videogame for kids
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>>721635779
Retarded ESL
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>>721638353
They have specific areas they spawn it. I got caught in Bilewater and the location was super clearly meant for him cause there's nothing else in the room
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>>721645645
oh, so that's why there's that empty room there
i spent ages hitting every wall to see if there was some secret
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>>721633393
They really wanted their elden ring trapped chest moment with this but it didn't land at all
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>>721644124
would you call a baby slurs and murder it because it was born into a race you didn't like, or would you just feel uncomfortable and bad for it?
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>>721640325
You forgot the bit where she bathes in the sauna with the innocent shota
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>>721640325
I remember the story after Hollow Knights release of one of the big Hollow Knight influencers showing them R34 of Hornet, including fetish stuff, and one of the devs was apparently into it, while the other guy was disgusted and felt sick.
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>>721633783
Remember this is a reportable offence
>trolling outside of /b/
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So Bilewater is just a boss gated behind several minutes of very basic platforming? What's the purpose of that existing? Can i just skip it and get to act 3?
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>>721646809
there's a hidden bench
also no you can't skip it it's mandatory for act 3
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>>721646809
tedium.
You need to defeat Groal to do act 3, one of the few instances where you get something important immediately after defeating the boss.
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If Hornet was a dude, would the multiple mates thing have been okay?
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>>721645225
>loredrunk
does /v/ really
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>>721646994
>one of the few instances where you get something important
Sigh of course it is
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>>721646740
>one of the devs was apparently into it, while the other guy was disgusted and felt sick.
i need the source on this
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>>721646809
It's to filter explorationlets.
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what a fucking nigger, I hope he and his whole family dies painfully
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>>721633393
It's not missable, though. You can find a key in a different area that leads to the entire Slab section.
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>>721647702
>It's to filter explorationlets.
I'm so fucking sick and tired of content being gated behind destructable walls i don't give a shit anymore I'm looking everything up
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Finally beat this stupid faggot piece of shit.

Kinda glad I got spoiled on the explosion thing. Fuck that.
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>>721647585
I want to say it was a Mossbag video, but idk. I'll see if I can find it.
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>>721633393
BECAUSE IT'S A SHALLOW VAPID REFERENCE TO BLOODBORNE
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>>721648232
>fire protection
git gud
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>>721648232
gz, got plenty more in store
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>>721647923
>snitches looting bonebottom
They're somehow worse than snails.
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>>721647950
the jail map isn't insteresting if you are going there without a weapon
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Clearing the pathways for this is a pain in the ass. I went the sands of karaak route. Someone said the exhaust organ has a route but is it actually easier?
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Don't respond to it.
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>>721648756
I almost did, thanks
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>>721648706
I went through there for the songclave delivery and no, I don't think it would be easier for the courier's rasher.
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>>721648859
Figures. I'll just go the route I've been trying then. Thanks anon
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How do i fight garmond? Im at the end of act 2 and feel like ive done just about everything. Im missing a few memory lockets, mask pieces, and tools but i dont think any of those are triggers for the fight.
I fought shakra as well so this should be the last missable thing before act 3.
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>>721640075
it means sherma was dirty after days without taking a bath in the hell hole called Pharloom
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Okay where the hell is this voltnest place? I've been all over the sands of karak and I haven't found anything.
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>>721649060
If he's chilling in Songclave then you've already missed it. You need to find him on the rooftops east of Songclave to trigger his fight.
>>721649183
Silk soar at the top of the vertical passage, or you might be able to kite an enemy over to pogo.
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>>721649280
Wait, I'm in act 2. What are you talking about? I was complaining about getting nothing in karak except the conchcutter and some anon told me I missed voltnest.
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>>721649280
Damm thats too bad. Yea hes hanging out in the corner in songclave.
Thats too bad, i really wanted to finish up his quest.

Guess its time to do silk amd song and go to act 3. I think most of the stuff im missing is from there.
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>>721649434
Nevermind, you can just wall jump up so you don't need silk soar. But it's at the top of the vertical passage.
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>>721649060
Where do you fight shakra at?
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>>721649183
You don't need silk soar and you don't need to pogo. There's a hole in the very top of that central vertical shaft. It is tricky to get in to.
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>>721650001
Outside bellhart where moorwing and the fleas were.
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>>721650001
outside bellhart in greymoor, theres a ring you can hit to summon her
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>>721648962
Something that makes it easier to clear those routes for me is there are two hot springs at least that you can visit to recoup without benching - Fleas and Citadel. Soak up and heal up.
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>>721633393
i just went there later
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Was it femcel rage?
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>>721650976
The most unremarkable "final" boss
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>>721650976
Yes. Literally needed BWC (Big Wyrm Cock) and she'd have been fine.
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I had no idea how much I wanted this segment until I played it. This is in contention for the most fun I've had playing Silksong. This is up there with
>Path of Pain
>Colosseum of Fools
>Godhome
>Mister Mushroom quest
for one of those things that distills part of the game down to some pure essence with no bullshit, and I want to see it in every other game now. Why didn't Hollow Knight have its equivalent of this segment? I guess apart from the Eternal Ordeal sorta-kinda.

Also why didn't the flea games get a version of the fun knife-throwing minigame? Those fuckers are dead now
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>act 3 straight up removes a few passages and shortcuts
FUCK YOU

also does old penitent in the slab do anything, besides dialogue?
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>>721646740
Perfectly understandable.
I too would be disgusted if someone showed me off model garbage porn of characters I've designed.
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>>721646994
Incidentally, Bilewater is very definitely MEANT to suck. It serves two key purposes in the game
>optional hard path for getting through Act 1 more quickly, assuming you don't find the super-secret path to the Mist
>final challenge for getting into Act 2
You aren't supposed to have an easy time with it. Despite how "early" you can access it relative to other parts of the map it is obviously intended to be one of the hardest, least forgiving areas in the game and is meant to gate the player even when they're much more geared up and experienced than when they reach it.
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>>721646809
You can argue everything in this game is "just a boss gated behind several minutes of very basic platforming" if you wanted to be a disingenuous bitch.
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>>721651598
You'll change your mind about the flea minigames once Seth shows up
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>>721647702
Wreath does fuck all. If you're pogoing, you won't fall in the water. If you're cheesing him, you aren't taking damage so being poisoned is irrelevant.
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>>721646809
You CAN skip Groal, but you can also rape him with the boomerang and poison flies. Kill his goons then spawn four flies, then jump up to the left platform and spam boomerangs forever
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>>721651983
The lower Bilewater part is fine. Only Groal and his runback sucks.
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>>721652442
I strongly disagree. I beat groal in large part because he kept eating me and letting me hit him a bunch from the inside. You almost build enough silk from that to heal the damage he did. If I'd been maggoty, which I would have been without the wreath, that wouldn't have worked.
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>>721652662
You mean the zero danger 10 second runback?
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>>721652452
>with the boomerang and poison flies
Yeah killed him in like 20 seconds on my second try. I really feel the tedium setting in might not bother with act 3. Only good bosses so far has been Trobbio and First Sinner.
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>>721652662
The lower part also sucks when you first get access to it in Act 1
>stiltkin popping up at random
>muckmaggots everywhere
>impossible to get a map
>everything explodes after death
>only bench is at the far-ass end of the portion you can access
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>>721652823
For me it was much easier than the Sinners Road. You can infinitely farm silk on fleas and those bugs.
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>>721652810
you will miss out on even better bosses and even better trobbio
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the npcs are so much worse and less memorable than the ones from the first game
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>>721652239
Beating his score in juggle intimidates me but the other two I’m excited to do
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>>721633783
Even IF that implies she copulated
So what? Was Hornet your waifu or something?
She's a 1/2 higher being bug ffs
who cares
She's not your love interest
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>>721639845
Sherma splashing around was too cute
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So if you don't get caught, do you actually miss out on anything substantial i.e. upgrade material, unique items, bestiary entries, etc.?
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HOW THE FUCK DO I DO FLEA JUGGLING
I AM MAXED OUT AT 20
HOW
HOW ARE YOU EXPECTED TO DO FOUR AT A TIME OR EVEN GET GOOD AT THIS I JUST GOT LUCKY GETTING 20 WHAT THE FUCK
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>>721653692
No.
>>721653737
Pay attention to the order they show up in, don't jump after them, and dash if you need to. Aside from the golden one and Grishkin the normal fleas all have the exact same speed unless you hit them in the air, so you'll always hit them in the same order. For me the only annoying part was when one of them drifted to the sides and I had to be careful not to fall off the platform.
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>>721653692
No. You can still get in the prison and access everything. You just don't have the escape sequence.
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>>721653737
When multiple fleas first appear, let them each dive on their own once. If you are too aggressively pre-emptive you can get them out of cycle, and end up with two falling at once, so let them show you the cycle timing first.

After that, jump and hit them as high up as you can, take the push to them to maximize your time to react (just make sure you keep doing it in order)

Up hits are best since they cover both sides of you, but horizontal swings will work if one is about to hit the floor and is just too far

Drill the fall speeds of the brew flea and the opera lady flea.

I don’t know how to deal with the big dog yet.
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is the Prince gay or do boy and girl mantises just look the same to us?
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>>721646759
cope, im going to keep shitting in these constant shill threads
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>>721633393
You can just go there manually and you won't get shamed with a permanent fly cum stain on your cloak (yes, that's a real thing in-game) compared to getting captured.
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>>721654162
>yes that’s a thing
You can wash it off in water, IIRC
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I just got the wanderer's crest.
So, let me get this straight. I've seen a ton of people crying about Hornet's downstrike being much worse than the Knights and the game let's you change it a couple hours in?
Also, I don't really like this. I actually liked the diagonal stab, it made the game more interesting but now I feel like sticking with it would be just me needlessly nerfing myself.
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>>721654256
People were crying about that the first couple days of the game's release when people didn't really know about the alternate movesets yet. You hear basically zero complaints about that anymore now.
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>>721654256
There are plenty of times when the diagonal pogo is more useful, especially when fighting bosses. Additionally, Wanderer has a low attack range which means there's more risk in pogoing since you need to be more precise to not whiff.
If you like Hunter then just use Hunter. The biggest nerf will be using the crests you don't like.
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>>721654256
If it makes you feel better, there are plenty of reasons to be good at Hunter and stick with it. I think Wanderer’s popularity is mostly due to it being the most similar to HK.

The only objectively bad crest is Reaper somehow, despite feeling great and being 30% of people’s favorite even after learning that it has the worst DPS in the game.
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>>721633783
While I don't think there's anything wrong with an immortal demigod having sex, this information was also just completely unnecessary. It adds nothing to Hornet as a character and feels like it was included with bad intentions.
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>crikey mate, i know the game is 5 years overdue, but you know what it's really missing? Tentacle rape and impregnation!
>will ya cunt! took the words right out of my mouth!
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>>721648706
i just picked up the rasher and went the normal way and got it. you can very easily jump around all enemies once you have the double jump.
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>>721654475
The game tries to present Wanderer and Reaper as the former being better for exploration and the latter being better for bosses, when the opposite is true. Reaper's hitbox is very large making it very easy to pogo, including being able to pogo some obstacles from the side.
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>>721654256
>now I feel like sticking with it would be just me needlessly nerfing myself.
The Hunter pogo gets you more air time actually making platforming, which is balanced around it anyways, quite a bit easier once you get used to it. It also makes it easier to dodge follow up attacks from enemies since everything is a lot more aggressive than in HK and WILL punish you if you think you can just pogo endlessly.
They are pretty well balanced in my opinion.
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>>721654131
Gay
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>run with less than half of a pip to spare
>hit the guy to wake him up
>running attack counts as you slamming into the wall
Fucking nigger game design this is why I never did that shitty flower quest in the first game. But this one locks the weapon upgrade behind it.
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>>721654645
>>hit the guy to wake him up
just talk to him you rude cunt
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>>721654645
Just don't get hit broseph.
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>>721654526
Yeah and it's peak, what's your point
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>>721633393
It’s really obvious since it’s the exact same gimmick as das 3 and elden ring. Immediately when I saw him that was the first thing i tried
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Why does everyone say that the bug is a female
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>>721654475
Reaper feels like the safest crest since it has the longest range and most forgiving poggo. Also the extra silk for heal.
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>>721654645
I have one small hint
Go to the top left most area first
Hint 2:
It's called Mount Fay, do it. And then the Courier's Rasher run will be easy
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>>721654645
OOF I'm sorry for you anon
Use both the berry juice weapon that yellow tool that makes you run faster next time, with that much speed I manage to do it despite being hit 2 times
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>>721654256
diagonal pogo is a little harder to use but definitely stronger in a couple ways
Wanderer's main advantage is simply having really fast basic attacks so it can fit two or three hits in openings where slower crests only get one or two, which more than makes up for the lower damage per hit and generates extra silk on top of it, but the short range does actually matter especially on your first playthrough where you're still learning boss movesets and shit, and tools are so strong that only having one red one is a significant downside, you're definitely not gimping yourself by using Hunter. Witch, Reaper and Beast are the ones that have actual downsides compared to it but even they're fine in the situations they work well in.
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>>721654131
Don't be too hard on the gay mantis bros.
Girl mantises will chew your head off while your dick is still in them.
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>>721654610
It’s ridiculous that Reaper doesn’t get like +1 damage per nail hit per upgrade level. It doesn’t need to be a huge buff, just enough that it’s not objectively the worst crest in the game to fight with under all circumstances.
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>>721654645
>Running into a wall damages the product.
Lmao I didn't know that.
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>>721654834
>lower damage per hit
All crests have the same damage per hit, plus Wanderer can crit for bonus damage.
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>>721654834
Witch is fucking shit and anybody who tried it knowns it
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>>721655039
It's got a lot going for it actually. You get 4 blue slots, the best in the game. A bind that does damage, so if you pair with mirrors you will shit out damage on every heal. It's got more reach than the reaper, and the strongest charge attack in the game.
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>>721655135
No Sherma put that down!
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>silk storm keeps going if you tap F
Anly thing it was missing was hornet going EGAAAALE every time you use it
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>>721655135
hornet looks like a KND character with those shoes on
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>>721655424
Hornet doesn’t SHAW on Silkspear either and I do not get it
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>>721655221
Cool cool, now try it in practice
>No silk because your attack is slow as shit
Just use wanderer
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Where do I go for the Craw Summons in Greymoor? The big building with the wheel in the background doesn't have anything happen.
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>>721655556
It's just as fast as hunter anon.
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>>721655741
There's a door in the big house that you fought a gauntlet of craws in to spawn the bouncy balls outside.
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>>721655741
Go inside. Go downstairs.
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>>721653737
dont hit up, use horizontal attacks with hunter.which ever side you hit them on, they will go that direction so you can group them together. once i figured that out it was pretty easy
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>>721655861
>>721655876
>completely went past the door several times
thanks, I'm retarded
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>>721655135
Zaza blazin that dank Pharloom zaza
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>>721655346
He has the kid friendly one
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>>721654887
for the last big currier job using soar and hitting the ceiling also damages the goods
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can I keep playing the game after beating the Act 3 last boss? game says im at 100% but still missing some items
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>>721640570
You need to start from the solely based that the average /v/ anon is incapable of seeing women as thinking living beings
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>>721655848
In other words, it's slow
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>>721656167
Yes.
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>>721640325
Don't forget,
>scrapped ending has GMS possessing Hornet's body, who immediately blows her massive spider load all over Pharloom

Also I just realized the likelihood of Lace having a cute, black doll body underneath her poofy white outfit is nonzero. Gives more weight to the Pinnochio problem she has, too. Also doll joints.
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>save file 1 first time run
>save file 2 steel soul run
>save file 3 speedrun run
I feel like using the last one for a kino perma act 2 save file. also I need to know where does pilby go after pilgrims rest
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>>721656167
Yeah you can keep going
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>>721656204
>women as thinking living beings
i have bad news for you anon
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>>721656802
at this point its really weird to me when i press down attack isn't a dive kick that launches me a million miles
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>>721633393
Doesn't this happen in Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3?
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>>721656204
Yeah, it's a lost cause. I guarantee if Hornet was male they'd actually acknowledge the tragedy of being immortal and outliving anyone you try to love
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runback for bilewater bossis absolutely rancid. nasty ass shit. whoever designed this cannot be mentally well
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>>721633783
She needs to get knocked up before she ends up like GMS.
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>>721645414
>>721638131
actually you two are the retarded ESLs, anon was pointing out that "once" and "sought" are both past tense in that Hornet is no longer a being seeking sex in the present. Do not bother responding, I am leaving this thread you dumb niggers.
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>>721657581
hcneb terceS
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>>721657709
That can't be true Anon, she seeks sex with me every night
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When are they going to add gameplay utility to the needolin
Why would they make an entire game themed around music and then give you a playable instrument that's not only not capable of doing bard shit, but also is significantly less useful than the equivalent undercooked mechanic in the previous game
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>>721658415
...have you tried playing it near enemies?
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>>721657426
>>721656204
You fags are letting yourselves get baited.
The majority of anons don't give a fuck.
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>>721658547
"This doesn't do much, and is way worse than the previous game"
"erm ACKTUALLY it does do SOMETHING"
okay?
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>>721658701
who are you quoting
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>>721658551
You're probably right but you just know there's someone out there autistic enough to actually care that their bug waifu is "tainted"
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Does Seth have actual amnesia or is he just faking it?
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>>721658804
You, faggot
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>>721658547
It... Freezes them in place for a few seconds while you're also frozen in place so you can't actually take advantage of it at all?
Amazing. Truly spectacular.
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I really don't get Karmelita as a boss, it feels like some of her attack start ups are just way too fast to react too especially if she does her air spin if you're in a bad position. She feels so much more mechanically demanding than the other act 3 bosses it's bizarre.
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pointless grinding for no reason award
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>Eva: I am unique, you see. My mothers shared the curse of their tribe, to conceive a child is a painful, near impossible task.
>Hornet: I know the curse well, Eva, for I am also its victim, and spawn of one who managed to overcome its limits. Are you too an attempt to defy that cruel constraint?
Reminder it is canonical that you can cum inside Hornet all you like and it'd be almost impossible for her to get pregnant
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>>721658838
I don't see why he'd have to fake it
Also the game fucks up at some point because you can meet Seth before you fight him. That kinda confused me.
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>>721657709
>'once' is past tense
As I said, retarded ESL.
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>>721659220
>he skipped over the bugs during the game and now has to grind
LOL
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>>721658982
Staying airborne with floating felt like it helped me a lot in that fight. And pogoing on her head when she does the normal three attacks/spin into the middle portion of the arena. Also one pogo on each of those spike attacks
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>>721656073
>currier
SAAAAAR, please be of protecting the curry
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>>721658982
just hit her bro
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>>721658838
Why would he fake it?
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>>721659302
My white wyrm is ready for the task at hand.
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>>721659456
literally just beat her after that post, bitching always helps
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>>721659456
I've been doing this and consistently eat shit when she arbitrarily decides to grow three times bigger and fly through the air as a massive hitbox
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>>721659467
im very bad at spelling and it didnt give me the red squiggly
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>>721659302
>to conceive a child is a painful, near impossible task
Uhh doesnt this mean Hornet is in pain whenever has sex?
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>>721659384
>>721659498
Well, there's sometime this trope of former enemies pretending to not recognize one another to avoid a touchy subject/let bygones be bygones, I was picking up these kinds of vibes from his dialogue, maybe I'm reading too much into it
(mind it I only crossed him once in Greymoor so far, so perhaps other dialogue makes it more clear)
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Is there another upgrade to one of the tools? I have only 1 tool for the cheevo it says but I have all empty tool slots maxed out.
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>>721659468
>>721656968
>>721656802
Based hunga bunga posters, welcome to the wanderer and architect club
Reaperfags? Went silent
Witchfags? Humiliated
Shamanfags? Went exciting
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>>721653737
Come back later with shaman crest
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>>721659946
Seth isn't and was never your enemy, thoughever
He was bound by a pact
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>>721647923
>meet him
>"Patches, but a bug guy lmao. Can't wait to see what shenanigans this rascal will get up to."
>not a rascal
>just pure scum and rotten to the core, murdering people for their belongings and having his men loot recently devestated settlements and selling his stolen goods at ridiculous prices
Honestly have to respect Team Cherry for making their thief character a total, unrepentant shitheel.
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>>721655937
Premium evildark abyssal kush given focus
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>>721659302
that's not what it means
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>>721659468
Does anyone beat her without face-tanking?
I did with druid's eyes and multibinder.
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>>721659401
>ERM, YOU DIDN'T WASTE HOURS GRINDING ENEMIES THAT DON'T DROP ANYTHING?
>well sorry chuddie your save is bricked!
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>>721659302
Weaver pussy is exclusively for PALE MALES with STRONG PALE SPERMS
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>>721660371
they still appear on the rightmost room since that wasn't infected
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>>721659220
what if I want to know hornet's thoughts on *zoom in* Mawling? she may find it cute or how it tastes after she's done intercourse with it
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>>721660371
retard
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>>721660371
There are no missables enemies for the Hunter's Log. The couple areas you can't revisit get auto-finished the second you are locked out of them.
Those worms are still available in a few spots like the area between the plasmium infested wormways and blasted steps
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>>721660371
actual retard
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>>721654645
>running attack counts as you slamming into the wall
The game is littered with this ebin troll stuff. You only noticed it now?
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Why does Hornet shout "friend" when binding? Is it an appeal to the enemies buganity?
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How far along in the Lost Lace fight does the third phase trigger, with the floor tentacle wave is it halfway? Two thirds of the way? It's a morale thing, I need to know how close I am to winning without gay cheese builds.
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>>721659468
Ya'll beastfaggot are somehow worse player than the architects tool spammer
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>>721660814
she has 4 phases
phase 4 has an attack that does 3 (three) masks of damage btw
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>>721660814
Halfway, it's the 2nd phase trigger
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>>721654645
>running attack counts as you slamming into the wall
Wew lad, didn't know that.
Does suck though, genuinely some bullshit. Try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8pYSM9RayM
This route seems fairly safe and the video even has him without the silkspeed anklets or flear brew + he takes a few hits. It might help.
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>>721660814
I fel like it was 2/3s through, but this anon makes it seem like it's 50% through
>>721656802
>>721656968
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Nerf Lost Lace.
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>>721659468
I found Seth harder than Karmelita, been using Witch crest since it was available. Any fast boss that teleports around is pain to get a heal off of. im now at Lost Lace who does the same shit, but she feels very beatable
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Leave Lace to me.
https://files.catbox.moe/myf4t5.png
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>>721661096
Needs void correction
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>>721660676
>They had the foresight to add needolin interactions for this
Reminder that with all the time and thought that went into every aspect of the game, the needolin being useless in combat beyond getting excessively minor flavor text was an intentional choice
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>>721660903
Gay
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>>721646537
She murdered all the babies the Broodmother was pooping out
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>>721660676
Found out the other day you can taunt in that spot and the bell beast still shows up. I guess it like amplifies the sound or something.
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>>721646473
It was a Bloodborne Hypogean Gaol moment
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>>721633393
There's also a room full of little bat fuckers in the Vaults that you can release into the world if you explore too much. And no, you can't put them back in.
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I still maintain two-mask contact damage is FUCKING GAY
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>>721633393
just walk there anon, you don't actually miss anything
in fact you're rewarded for not getting caught since you can clean the area with all your stuff if you go there normally
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>>721661096
She looks like she has doll joint, which is really hot. I have too many random fetishes.
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>>721654645
How do I get the other bottle of oil in that area? Is it just something I have to wait until later for?
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>>721661525
Through the whispering vaults
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>>721661525
Act 4
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is downloading this shit going to disable achievements
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>>721661096
based
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>>721661447
It is, which is why many enemies and bosses don't have it
I haven't paid enough attention to when it's there or not to figure out a pattern, but I would assume it's balanced based on how big the creature is, what kind of attack patterns it has(whether it just runs into you as a means of attack or does something else), and where you encounter it
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>>721644124
She's very civil with basically everything that can talk and is not trying to murder her though.
Either the logs about the flies were her feeling extra salty and by the time she crosses the little one she's cooled off enough to regain her composure, or given that we've basically murdered all the entourage that was supposed to feed the baby broodmother it'll die anyways and Hornet's savoring it's obliviousness
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>>721661678
morally, yes
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>>721661574
Thank you anon.
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>>721661678
no
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HOLY SHIT WHY IS THE FATHER OF THE FLAME SO FUCKING HARD, I LOST COUNT TO MY TRIES AND IT'S BEEN THREE HOURS
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>>721661678
>Caring about achievements for things he didn't do
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>>721661340
Hwhat? Where?
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>>721661340
Wait, those don't just randomly appear in act 3, it's actually my fault?!!
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>>721661678
What yellow one do you even want to replace compass? I had slots to spare for compass because yellow is a shit slot
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>>721661792
what
how
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>>721661792
Please tell me you're joking
Alternatively, equip Wanderer
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>>721661792
equip the fire-protection trinket, go for the top ones first, pogo away (45% pogo is nice) and set spiky traps in his head in the last phase
ezpz
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>>721661893
easy to say when you don't use a crest that has zero yellow slots
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>>721661792
Emm.. just poggo... Switch to a creast with an easier poggo if you're having trouble, or even equip the magma bell
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>>721633393
>see DS3 covenant guy
>don’t wan to go to jail
>break into jail and kill everyone

Retards have FoMO because they have no imagination of their own.
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>>721661937
You don't HAVE to do a challenge run you know?
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>>721636361
They stop spawning if you get any of the three keys since having to look for them is part of the escape sequence.
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>>721660676
I hear EIRA
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>>721654498
>It adds nothing to Hornet as a character
It does, by making you understand she feels dejected and somber
>and feels like it was included with bad intentions.
You're just insecure because you aren't successful with women and have a chip on your shoulder
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>>721661893
Scuttle brace bug mode. It just looks funny
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>>721662009
shaman crest is great
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>>721661792
Voltvessels melt the second phase in like 5 seconds
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>pointless grinding for zero reason award
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>>721633783
Canonically, Hornet could have extended their lifespan by stuffing her them with silk. She's just a succubus.
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>>721661937
I can get not wanting to give Beast Crest blue tool slots for balancing/guiding its playstyle towards aggression, but genuinely what's the point of barring Shaman from weak-ass exploration tools?
What was the intent there, is this some twisted meta-commentary about Hollow Knight minmaxed builds dropping all the utility charms to make room for damage?
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>>721633393
h-hold on, I just found and killed this guy
what did I miss?
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>>721662306
You literally don't have to do it. You know exactly what you get for doing it, a comment by Hornet.
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>>721662401
prison break segment where hornet is naked the entire time
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>>721662240
I wish shaman had a passive that let's you collect silk more easily but with the amount I get hit I can't really justify using it
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>>721633675
>>721633508
>>721633828
They knew
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>>721662401
An entire sequence of Hornet running naked through a dungeon and through the cold, while fst jail guards masturbate over her clothes. Yes, seriously.
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are the 3 types of silkshot actually different apart from the icon?
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What counts for 100%? I'm missing one psalm and one historical record for the Bellhart chick but otherwise I'm at 99% after getting the Everbloom so not sure if those count or not.
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>>721651983
Is there some other path to the mist besides bilewater?
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>>721662240
So why do you need a free yellow slot?
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>>721662401
There's another one in Bilewater
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>>721662491
You're complaining about a steam achievement?
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>>721639845
reminds me of the pleasure house in Hollow Knight where it sounded like some harem at first only for it to sound more clearly like disorted laughing the closer you got to the collector
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>>721662347
Beast crest should've had a single blue in addition to the rest.
Four slots (two yellow) is very pitiful
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>>721661913
>equip the fire-protection trinket
WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT TRINKET, I CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE
>>721661970
IT'S TOO HARD TO POGO HOLY SHIT

FUCK THIS SHIT I'M OUT
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>>721662558
Yes, the original design is the best one because it doesn't just fulfill the same role as the straight pin or the threefold pins.
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The final fight LAGS on the switch version, what the fuck were they thinking with all of those particle effects
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>>721662650
Just switch to an easier crest...
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>>721662650
>WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT TRINKET, I CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE
where is the fire area?
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>>721662491
cheevofags deserve everything that's coming for them
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>>721662650
>can't pogo
literally nothing we can do to help you
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>>721661893
Compass' function can be covered by having a basic grasp on spatial awareness. Dice just straight up negate damage sometimes when you get hit (it will save your ass), anklets save tons of time that would add up during travelling, magnet/shard pendant/thief mark if you ever get low on currency (which you are at all times for most of early to mid game)
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>>721662691
They knew the particle effects would be a problem so they gave you the option to turn them down in the video settings.
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>>721662347
Blue tools are only mostly defensive, the biggest offensive ones are also blue because it ended up being the dumping ground for everything that was too effective to be put in the shitter color
And that's ignoring support utility for shit like silk generation that can be offensive or defensive
Honestly this system might be the game's biggest misfire, I get what they were going for but it takes away far more than it encourages
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>>721662650
>WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT TRINKET, I CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE
It's like the third are in the game dude
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>>721662764
shitter cope
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>>721662808
>not an option on console
Thank you team Cherry, very cool
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>>721662558
Weaver is a laser gun with good damage and piercing, it's by far the strongest variant
Architect is a burst shot, looks, feels, and sound amazing but does shit damage
Forge is a single shot gun with slight falloff in trajectory, more ammo than Weaver and hits harder than Architect
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>>721662650
Ain't no way this nigga went all the way to wisp thicket without exploring deep docks.
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>>721660574
Do the basic tall and squat craws still spawn in Act 3? I'm missing them and a few of the basic pilgrims, like the wide old one, but I can't find them anywhere

I'm glad they at least make it so that the rest of the journal auto completes because I also missed the friendly duels and their entries
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>>721662832
Yellow is just a bad color. Blue is the most impactful and congested
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>>721662832
>Fractured mask
>Longclaw
>Injector band
Why would you ever switch out any of these, except Magma bell for fire boss or Poison if you want to cheese
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>>721662879
I guess that means the particle effects are already turned down on console.
lmao rip
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>>721662891
damn i got the architect one. oh well i wasn't going to use it anyway.
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>>721662962
>long claw
>poison
>healing bell
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>>721662962
Fractured mask is only useful if you get down to one health and is only useful once per bench so you could switch it out for something more consistently useful.
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>>721662962
I used Snitchpick instead of longclaw
People sleep on Clawline way too much
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>>721662832
I'm more annoyed that Yellow predominately is useless shit, especially lategame when you don't need the balls magnet and extra shards thingies anymore.
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>>721662962
Depends on which crest you're using or how much you're getting hit
Personally I don't care to have 1cm longer attacks since getting conceptually safer damage just doesn't appeal to me as much as extra healing or gigabuffed electrorape skills
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>>721648706
Exhaust Organ route is much easier. Also please stop being black.
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>>721662942
The basic pilgrims spawn in random groups before the Chapel where you got Wanderer.
Not entirely sure where the craws are but you can check on the map if you search for them, it doesn't always show the best spawn but all the ones it lists are available at the end of Act 3.
https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloom
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>>721661937
By the time you get Shaman you shouldn't need the compass.
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>>721663093
Fractured mask has won me more bosses than I care to mention. +1 health that ignores how much damage you're currently taking is very strong
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>>721662865
you're the one seething, cheevocuck
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>>721663204
>+1 health
+1 hit, per rest
It's honestly insane they thought that was at all on the same level as 90% of the other blue tools, it's unbelievably OP
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>>721662962
Personally I prefer Reserve Bind to Fractured Mask, gives you just a bit more value for basically the same effect
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>>721662240
Just watching this webm makes my heart rate go up, fuck Coral Tower.
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>>721634426
the difference is this nigga is actually very hard and very likely to kill you the first time you encounter him, the Silksong dude isn't

I'm not even good at Silksong and I never got captured
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>>721663332
+1 hit per rest, after you've already taken 3-4 hits
Without heals that is
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>>721633393
I knew the fly would take me to a secret area so I let myself get captured.
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>>721663125
Yeah, I have no idea what they were going for
Like sure exploration and movement tools I guess, but then there's also combat stuff that just happens to suck complete ass or come with big downsides
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>>721662942
The craws are high up in the area before their actual nest, a grueling task if you have quite a few left like I did
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>>721661489
She does! An anon complained last night that she had a generic loli body and I realized Lace probably has some sort of body beneath her outfit. A doll body makes the most sense since it plays into the Pinocchio theme she has, and because doll joints are erotic.

Lace isn't a bug, after all. She's a being made of silk, and the best way to house silk would be with a doll body! The little holes in the joints are for sliding wire armature into them, after all. Likewise, GMS would likely have Lace's real silk housed inside such a vessel.
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>>721663371
I killed the first two I crossed with no issue but got too cocky on the third one, seems like he had a little more HP than the other two
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WHY DOES THIS COCKSUCKER SPEED UP IN THE 4TH RACE?
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>>721663125
>>721663460
It's fairly obvious that they want yellow slots to be weak, so you don't feel bad taking utility stuff because the opportunity cost is low.
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>>721663541
Just use the harpoon.
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>get to Act 3
>now EVERYTHING, even the smallest critters, deals double damage AND saps several blocks of your silk on hit AND has projectiles and lingering AoEs and fuck huge get-off-me AoEs AND has tripled health AND...
Whoa there! Slow down Ari, you're having too much fun designing these things.
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>>721663541
Just hit him
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>>721663541
this: >>721663635
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>>721662347
i suppose the idea is "its late game you don't need utility anymore" but it's still dumb
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>>721663171
>>721663468
Thank you! Feel stupid I missed the ONE corner they're hiding in.

>>721663576
I hate that you can hit him and slow him down with the grapple. Feels like cheating but the dumbass just keeps getting in the way at least once
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>>721663541
What are you doing? The only difficulty in that race is not fucking up the second clawline segment 6 times in a row.
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>>721663560
Yeah, but then when you know those utilities don't have anymore use you have nothing else to put on other than trash you don't care for and wouldn't miss if it was removed entirely
I'm in the endgame and still wearing the compass and rosary magnet because like, what the fuck else is there for me?
Meanwhile there's tons of shit in blue that's objectively outclassed in every way and has practically no use case because of the opportunity cost
Like why would I ever use the snitch pick or flea egg when I have multiple better options to just have blanket higher silk gen, or extra healing, or address other more important issues like damage or defense
They just recreated the same problem again but made it even more restrictive
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>Dodge 2 damage attack on final boss
>Oops she randomly jumped with no tell whatsoever (her third dash and her spin jump have the exact same animation wind up)
>deals two masks of contact damage anyway
Give me a reason why I shouldn't just architect crest this cunt and get it over with. UNBELIEVABLE levels of cancer in her fight.
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>>721663560
What if instead of locking good tools to the good tool slots and bad tools to the bad tool slots they had some kind of point system that limited the number of tools you could equip and had the good tools cost more points to equip than the bad ones?
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>>721663934
almost all important bosses need to randomly jump to teach players that they can't pogo to win
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>>721663934
Her third dash is like that on purpose, it's so that you can't consistently cheese it. Just play it safe and damage her on reliable moves
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It's a shame almost all red tools are offensive, I'd love to have some utility shit for platforming and defensive stuff like snares that hold enemies down.
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>15 more
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>>721664032
>Fractured mask costs 5 charm notches
>injector band costs 9
>you max out at 10
You know that's exactly what would happen
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>>721663934
Nigga she literally only jumps if you are reachable by that attack, just bait it out and punish her.
Like that is the easiest part of the fight.
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>>721662519
the chinamen either have the most dogshit abhorrent opinions or make the greatest shitposts known to mankind and there is no in-between. in this sense them being confined behind their firewall and language barrier is both a blessing and a curse
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>>721663934
>Oops she randomly jumped with no tell whatsoever (her third dash and her spin jump have the exact same animation wind up)
Positioning yourself a bit away from her and/or staying above Lace are your best options. It's SUPER easy to bait Lace into jumping, which you can punish. Honestly, Lost Lace is super fun without any tools.
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>>721633393
>Unique new enemy
>Game has grab attacks
Yeah, I've played enough games to try this
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>>721664032
You end up with crippling your exploration experience for the fighting experience, like everyone did in HK.
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>>721664105
You do know you get nothing for doing this right
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It's insane that they gated an entire act behind the most obtuse set of requirements. They got a weird boner for that shit.
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>>721663929
Yeah. Blue has the highs and lows, but very fun effects that feel different depending on what you pick (power level generally high)

Yellow has 99% hot garbage that you honestly won't even notice if you take it off. The end result is that choices are made for you.

Its needlessly restrictive for not a good enough reason
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>>721664121
>Nigga she literally only jumps if you are reachable by that attack
I'm like 99% sure she has jumped when I was nowhere near her
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>>721663934
>she randomly jumped with no tell whatsoever (her third dash and her spin jump have the exact same animation wind up)
You're supposed to learn that the third dash can be a jump if you're close to her. Either way you have time to pogo and dodge in the direction she dashes from.
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>>721664186
you get an achievement and a memento for your house
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>>721664186
you get nothing from playing this game
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>>721664198
>the most obtuse set of requirements
I got to act 3 just playing the game like I usually play games: doing side quests and side objectives to the best of my ability
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>>721664113
Quick Focus only cost 3
It having more varied utility because of the different bind abilities on some crests might not even push that up to 4
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>>721663794
It's not cheating, you're just using your tools. I mean, he has no qualms about literally flying
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>>721664198
It's not obtuse at all. The act centered around helping the people is gated behind helping people. The "most obtuse" would be moving the fleas if you don't know where the ducts are, since you don't need to kill Groal until after you get the quest.
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>>721664198
>To continue the game you have to beat the game
Actually it's funnily appropriate, since you only get the 3rd act if you care about the npcs, and the 3rd act is the ending if Hornet does start to care about the people there.
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>>721664257
And I'm 99% sure she doesn't if you are low on the ground, the trigger is always that you are diagonal to her before the 3rd attack
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>>721648706
Exhaust Organ is significantly easier
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>>721664032
because then the bad tools would be directly competing with the good tools and equipping the compass or rosary magnet would be actually costing you the ability to equip a combat upgrade.
It wasn't that bad in HK1 because you only had a couple of charms actually worth using for combat anyway for most of the game and even there by the end only like four or five charms are worth a slot and the ones that would be yellow in Silksong are just garbage you never use.
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>>721664175
Or you can just run a mix, like I did.

If you struggle with boss you go back and you equip the ultra tryhard combo or whatever.

You could play around more in HK.
Spell builds, soul farming + summoner, nail long, nail fast, ultra defensive with quick heal and all the buffs to heal. Beam nail etc
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>>721664434
Fair enough, I seem to remember her jumping when I was on the ground (although rarely)
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>>721664423
>if you care about the npcs
I don't give a shit about the NPCs completionism or achievements that probably explains it
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>>721663934
short hop a decent distance away from her can bait the jump. you should have figured out how to make the triple dash a punish window by now. the jump attack is super annoying because you can't really react to it and the sound cue is used for other attacks as well. 99% of the fight is just spacing in neutral
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>>721664501
I do agree HK had more build variety, but SS has more playstyle variety with the crests.
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>>721664497
Most people never fucking used baldur shell, knockback, snail form heal and gas cloud
There was a lot of weak stuff, but you could still stack a lot of (cheap) charms for fun effects and not even really gimp yourself in combat.
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>>721664563
>I don't care about completing the game
>wtf why can't I complete the game??
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>>721664563
I mean, then you get the normal ending, yeah.
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>>721664497
If you need the compass, you are in a situation where you do not need a hyper minmaxed combat build
If you need a hyper minmaxed combat build, you are in a situation where you do not need the compass
This was a self-righting problem
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>>721664652
>snail form heal
this shit carried me in nightmare grim because i could heal under projectiles
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Right now people simply don't use fun blue charms because you only have like 2 slots if you're lucky so what are you going to do
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>>721664198
I mean, it's not that obtuse, although I admit some of the requirements don't make sense in the story. Like having the fleas move to the Putrified Ducts presumably has no actual impact in the shamans deciding to trap Silk with a special snare, but the fleas need to move anyway.
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>>721660676
why is she lifting up her dress?
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>>721664721
use fun charms anyway since the only one I really don't give up is fast healing.
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>>721633783
cucksong shills, this is your main character.
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>>721661870
>>721661873
It's these dudes. Initially the area doesn't have them. Then you turn on the lights in a room (I did this in act 2) and they fucking flood the level. Even their journal entry teases you for being a dumbass. First time I felt punished for exploring, but yeah they did the same thing in HK with that lady that rips you off.
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>>721661792
Basically what this >>721662302 anon said. As soon as you get to phase 2, slap down the voltvessel in spear form directly under the boss. In case you haven't gotten voltvessel, I believe it's in a hidden room in Memorium.
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>>721664768
Shamans only offer the deal if Hornet tells them she's getting attached to the people and would look for a different solution to dominating everyone. I guess helping the cute fleas triggers her protective instincts.
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>>721662306
>found all of them
>knew he would have to kill them eventually for the journal
>still skipped them when exploring
>176/237
only retard here is your bro
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>>721664198
There's nothing obtuse about doing quests and saving fleas, act 3 is for people who enjoyed the game enough to bother doing most of what there is to do in it.
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>>721664769
It's a poncho. She's nude underneath because she's an exhibitionist
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>>721661792
Took me two tries, how did you get that far????
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>>721664667
I refuse to ever 100% a game that's some autistic shit just let me kill all the bosses
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>>721665150
No
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>>721665150
You don't have to 100% to get to act 3 retard you have to engage with the game on a basic level
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>>721661226
but it isn't? it stops enemies in their tracks so they can sing their heart out.
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>>721656802
>>721656968
No flea brew?
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>>721665150
If you don't care about completing the game then why do you care about getting to act 3? Just take your weaver queen ending and go play something else.
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>>721664721
It's not even just not using fun charms, it's not being able to really make a "build" since you don't get enough slots
In HK you could equip both good and fun shit to go for something in particular, and there were often special scripted interactions just for those charm combos to incentivize equipping a bunch of shit together
In SS it doesn't matter because even if there's only a few charms that work together for some aspect of gameplay you want to prioritize, you'll still have to make massive sacrifices to run them, and might also have to play a crest you hate just to enable it
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>>721633783
>>721633828
You guys are redditing the joke you don't have to post it in literally every thread
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>>721665180
>No
I'm in act 3 so yes get fucked completion cucks
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>>721665230
And what use case does that have?
Getting one or two extra ticks of damage from tacks if you manage to line it up correctly?
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>the wreath of purity's location actually has a needolin area and it's where the Pinstress and Seamstress' sister died.
Well damn
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The floor shit in phases 3 and 4 of the final boss are a bit much....
Give me some encouragement bros, I've gotten to the anime bullshit move fourth phase twice now.
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>>721662240
It gives additive damage on spells which is absolutely insane on the multihit spells
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>>721665280
if i don't care about completing the game then why would i finish the normal ending?
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>>721665692
Just facetank her with plasmium, who cares at this point.
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>>721660808
Same reason Seth shouts friendo
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>>721665837
Just so you could say you beat the game and move on, the fight was even made easy for your convenience.
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>>721664865
I thought they only spawned in act 3.
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>>721664768
>>721665009
I think much like how not being able to see a boss' remaining health adds to the tension, the Act 3 requirements probably would feel a lot impactful if there was a thematic visual indicator for tracking how much Hornet has grown to care for the residents of Pharloom, be it some kind of filling meter or periodic self-monologue trigger.
Right now it comes off too much as a mystified checklist/chorelist that doesn't actually sell a player on that idea diagetically.
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>>721665692
>>721661096 here. If you beat Lost Lace before I finish coloring and rendering, I'll draw you a cute doodle of whatever you want.
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>>721666197
Oh shit okay, I'm a coomer
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>>721664865
If you don't do the light shit they still spawn in act 3 anyways :^)
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>>721633828
This but without even the slightest hint of irony
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>>721666132
>if there was a thematic visual indicator
You have multiple. The statue in bone bottom (which, while it's based on the fixer, is still something that's the result of your work), the bellhome, the fleas moving, and the growth of the Songclave. Since it's based on Hornet's work for the people around her, the visual indicators are in fact going to be the people around her.
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>>721666132
>some kind of filling meter
Please no
Thing is, Hornet does comment more on things like the pilgrims having a unique strength whereas she first thought they were weak and things like that, the more you do help and talk.
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>>721665338
I thought it was /v/ tradition to run jokes into the ground out of spite
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What exactly is the problem with that? If you have a fork in the road where the end leads back together, is that bad? Nah, gives variety to people who pick different options.
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>>721666197
I DID IT! YES YES YES! And no plasmium or architect, did it fair and square.
Alright, my request:
Hornet cheekily lifting up her skirt and showing a bit of pubic hair, please.
On model, not loli, keep it cute. Thank you!
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>>721641463
You let 4chan dictate your personality and you call other people indoctrinated?
A fat 40 year old loser gave you your life's philosophy, and you're complaining about a game 'indoctrinating' the world by mentioning that its nearly immortal protagonist had more than one boyfriend over the course of her life.
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>>721666325
But that's the issue I mean. It shows how Hornet impacts her surroundings, but doesn't give any impression about how Hornet's own status to correlate to Act 3 hinging on that she has to have convincingly appear to the snail shaman that she cares enough, with 'enough' obviously being the keyword for what I'm getting at.
You can do all the quests, but if you don't rescue a single flea, you can't get Act 3, and there's no diagetic correlation to show why that second condition would matter.
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>>721662832
Blues are the sorts of things people actually equipped in HK. Yellows are the things people never used or felt like they were wasting notches using. It's not any more complex than that. It's just a way to have strong stuff like the fractured mask and injector band coexist with the compass and scuttlebrace.
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>>721654475
I beat most of the game with reaper, I thought it was the easy mode option because it lets you pogo everything thanks to the range but apparently architect was the cheese one
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>>721667027
>did it fair and square.
>cogflies
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>>721667027
Black hair on black body stick figure?
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>>721667027
>cogflies
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>>721641379
Based nigger flies are repulsive
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>>721667087
Architect can be awkward for platforming because of its pogo. In that context reaper is easier to use. But yes, in combat architect is like using cheat codes.
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>>721667027
>cogflies
>1 tool slot so I assume it's wanderer crest?
sorry anon but you didn't beat her
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>>721652810
Lace is always fun.
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>>721667152
It can be white
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>>721667152
Obviously she has silk pubes
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>>721667269
The artist didn't give conditions. And I stayed away from Plasmium, Flintknife and Fleabrew. I had to beat her with Nintendo switch lag, so I'm handicapped in a way most players aren't.
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>>721633393
>you can miss
no
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>>721654610
Reaper's pogo never feels like it gives you enough lift.
If you know the angle on Hunter, its way better for exploration pogo.
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>>721633393
>hoarded like 1400 beads
>did not convert them into rosaries because i didn't have problems recovering my coccon when i died
>already bought everything available in the shop, exploring last bits of the map before atempting to reach act 2
>get caught by this mofo|
>got all my rosaries stolen
>never got them back

i fucking hate the ammount of trolling in this i have to put through with this fucking game
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>>721667027
>On model
>cheekily lifting up her skirt
>showing a bit of pubic hair
I am Calypso, and I thank you for playing Twisted Metal.
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>>721667029
>nearly immortal protagonist
loredrunk
she's a character in a videogame rated for children
basically a toy that says she's been mating with multiple partners
you guys are corrupted and evil, protecting child predators who might be yourselves
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>>721641379
>Slowly Hornet started to hate them.
Based Hornet.
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>>721667661
Kek amazing
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>>721646537
Hornet would genocide the baby judges if you let her.
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>>721654256
You gotta spend a Simple Key on it, but there's another place to spend a Simple Key on in Deepdocks, that a lot of people went for first.
The one in Deepdocks opens a 'shortcut' to Far Fields, if you're willing to slam your head through an awful gauntlet.
A lot of people unknowingly did the latter and locked themselves out of the Wanderer Crest for a long time.
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>>721648706
I tried the path through Blasted Steps like 7 times before I gave up. Did the Sinner's Path route and did it first try.
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>>721667661
So fucking based
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>>721667661
THIS ISN'T WHAT I WANTED
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>>721667904
I think I got the wonderers without the simple key, i just floated onto the chapel roof from above, I think left of where you get run.
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>>721633783
I find it funny that this is making the rounds the same time as Dohna Dohna threads
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Oh my god he's called the "Crust King" because they're all crustaceans.
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>>721668114
Oh man I thought he liked pizza crust
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>>721667661
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>>721654610
>>721654867
Reaper is fine for bosses. When you get to the late game, you get a chance at maybe 2 hits maximum before you have to back out. Reaper can only fit in one hit, but then you can jump and pogo while backing away since you have such a huge D-air that you can clip enemies from quite a distance away.
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>>721667765
She's a character in a game that has a story.
The story informs her personality and her backstory and her role in the plot.
You got your entire identity from twice divorced boomers ranting about how women just don't understand commitment. And now you think that it has to be law that the first girl to give you a kiss on the cheek has to be your wife forever.
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But what art am I going to jerk off to...?
I was promised anything I wanted...
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>>721667597
>games gives you a mechanic to hoard your resources
>opt not to use it
>blame the game

You have no excuses.
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>>721667661
you monster
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>>721667597
You should get them back when you kill the fly with her dress, guess you'd lose them if you died during the sequence but that's not likely to happen
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>>721668426
>>opt not to use it
In all fairness the game does not give you nearly enough options to use your beads other than the option the bank them at a loss
Also the game always lets you recover lost beads unless you lose them to this one specific scenario
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>>721667060
And now you can't equip as much of the good stuff or the bad stuff as you could in HK so it's moot regardless, now you just have less slots for good shit, forced slots for shit you probably don't want to use anyway, and a bunch of complete wastes in both groups since the SAME FUCKING PROBLEM STILL EXISTS ANYWAY
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>>721648706
based dawg enjoyer
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>>721668379
you're defending bs with more bs
she's a toy who talks about having multiple mates
it's literally targeting children with degeneracy propaganda
you guys are fucking disgusting
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>>721660359
I had to. I'm a Reaper user and I had to get really precise with my bounces. I feel like I could go play Marth at a tournament level now in Melee.
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>>721655741
It fucking sucks in there dude.
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>>721654645
>enmies have massive HP bloat with even the smallest fly tanking more hits than you
>damage upgrades are rare, negigible, barely noticeable and can only be aquired past the first half of the game
>lock one such upgrade behind one of the most infamously annoying quests types from the first game
is there anything in this game not optimized specifically to piss players off?
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>>721668381
It's everything you wished for!
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The Vesticrest really should've just had a second blue slot, then you could keep two staples and actually experiment with the others. As it is there's only Fractured Mask, Longclaw, Injector Band, and Magma Bell that are truly worth it. It'd be fun to experiment with stuff more like the mirrors, weavelight, etc. but what you have to give up for it is just too useful.
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>>721664198
have you never played a metroidvania before
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>>721659220
one of the tool upgrades is locked behind the "Bugs of Pharloom" quest so if you expect to upgrade them, you're gonna have to grind
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>>721668690
>who talks about having multiple mates
Because they died. Because she's super old.
You're mad that an old lady got remarried.
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>>721668690
No kid is going to be able to beat a game this difficult, and if he is somehow good enough at a young age to beat Silksong than he deserve heaps of pussy for being a god gamer and he'll learn all about that stuff. It's a self-correcting problem.
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Finished Act 3 at 94% and the later half of the game is kinda disappointing. So much shit that feels like cut content
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>>721668767
Sometimes it feels like the whole thing was designed for speedrunning specifically.
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>>721668845
No it wasn't you fucking genie. I'm getting Jafar to correct you.
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>defeat 7 more
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>>721669043
>No kid is going to be able to beat a game this difficult
You guys have lost your minds this is not a very difficult game just kinda boring
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>>721669160
Wow one whole trip from the top of the Bilewater shaft to the bottom, what an ordeal
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>>721669160
>I'm mad because completionism forces me to play the fucking game and kill enemies that are in my path
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>>721668381
Never deal with wishes Anon you should know this
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>>721669265
Ahh, the classic "It's not hard I swear, it's tedious" cope.
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>>721668973
Are you retarded
That's not how that quest works, and if you're grinding for it you have made a mistake somewhere
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>>721669316
Genies are dicks
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>>721669350
>it's tedious
I can toolfuck every boss this game is not hard even if i couldn't a PvE game will never be hard
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>>721668381
gato calvo
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>>721669160
I swear to fucking god pogoing is some kind of secret mechanic to 99% of the playerbase
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>>721669160
Dude those things are free silk 100% of the time, there's no reason not to kill them.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>721670268
kek
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>>721668564
so getting captured counts as a death that nukes your rosaries if your die again before getting your gear back?

the constant grinding this game punishes you with is such a fucking slog
i never got burned out from the original game i get from this one
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>>721670579
>i never got burned out from the original game i get from this one
I honestly remember having a harder time with the original game than this one
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>>721670579
I don't know, I didn't die in the escape, maybe he always has them on him
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So why exactly does Hornet get sent to horny jail? Lorewise.
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>>721669094
The level design and character movement are designed for speed running
The bloated hp bosses, constant resource farming, mmo fetch quests and busted economy where designed to troll speed runners
Then they sprincled all those trap benches to troll youtubers and livestreamer into their viral dsp moment
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You fags told me that the path to the Nameless Village was harder than Path of Pain. I did it in one try with no deaths. It's not even as hard as White Palace.
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>>721670860
Granny wants her for her weaver silk powers.
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>>721669160
Literally just toss two cogflies and forget about it.



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