>>721633437
a spear is a two handed weapon

Spears are gay

>>721633437
the spear and shield combo is the biggest fucking cancer to go up against in literally every single game out there. mordhau, bust chivalry 2 as well specifically because enemies can get indefinitely hold to block all your attacks then spam attacks over and over again faster than you can block them or sometimes hitting you even though you were the first to attack.
some kind of nerf there would be preferable in the sense that when you counter their stab attack, which is the only attack the spears are going to have, you make it so ALL your attacks counter it when time properly, not just the stab alone. if you slash the spear stab, you counter it, if you stab the spear stab, you counter it, if you overhead the spear stab, you counter it.

>>721633437
Spears are primitive and associated with black people

/thread

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>>721634264
I use spear and shield in mordhou and always stand behind my teammates only using thrust attacks and stealing kills

Ending was shit, he should've fucked the dino.

>>721633437
Spears are for cowards who want to fight from a distance, true heroes fight up close because they're confident in their skills

Mostly because swords are a famous hero weapon and the default weapon reference since antiquity. Spears aren't as shiny and their moveset is less flashy (no swings until you get to polearm length)

Spears don't have the dramatic gun preparing to fire equivalent that's removing a sword from its scabbard either.

>>721634715
Spearchads laugh at your dead raped corpse

>>721634715
meanwhile in real life, your tactic gets you killed very quickly

swords lend themselves better to fun action games because they support a broader variety of moves
you could do a cool quarterstaff sort of moveset with a twohanded spear but spear and shield has pokes and that's about it
standing there poking at anything that gets close to you just isn't engaging gameplay

>>721633437
he spear is the weapon of the peasant. the sword is the symbol of nobility. many legends were woven around the image of the sword, and not the spear, for this very reason.
if you make a character, you want to give it credibility, something to stand out, and a sword subconsciously tells you that this particular character is a cut above everyone else.

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- Swords look way cooler

- You cannot carry a spear without having it in your hand unless you're on a horse*

- Swords were more expensive so they were associated with higher status warriors

*Too long to wear on your back. Things like pilums are much shorter than spears.

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>>721635982
>he spear is the weapon of the peasant. the sword is the symbol of nobility
this is a modernist meme. you are completely deluded by retarded bullshit made up by companies trying to sell you shit

>>721636159
IT'S PILA YOU FUCKING GAUL

>>721633437
Spears just don't look as cool as swords or even maces. They're a wooden pole with usually boring tip. A sword can have a gorgeous pommel, a bunch of blade shapes, cool Damascus steel, various engravings etc. A spear usually is just a spear.

Because spears are a formation weapon or a hunting weapon. It's the weapon of a hunter or the rank and file soldier.
Swords are weapons for dueling and a universal backup weapon.
They're the weapon of nobles and generals.

>muh individual weapon is better than another
professional soldiers and warrior class have always had several weapons on them. Bow, lance, shield, sword or axe or both, dagger, horse, sometimes a spare horse too. if you only got one weapon you're a poor fucking levy.

>>721636670
nigga's carrying a spare horse

>>721636670
>having a spare horse
oh wow, we have the east roman emperor here,
is your saddle golden too?

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>>721636635
what if i dont want to play as a damn "noble" in every single fucking game in existence? why are there almost no games for us scrappy generic soldier peasant enjoyers?

>>721637068
A Legionary's Life

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>>721633437
because its overpowered af in most Souls games and it trivalizes them

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I can’t think of a single game where the spear weapons are fun to use and do good damage in combat. Its either they’re fun to play with but do shit damage or do good damage but have a geriatric, boring moveset.

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I shall not bore you with a catalog of her virtues and beauties; you would have
to see her and hold her to judge her justly. Her bitter blade was an ell in
length, straight and square - pointed as such a sword's should be. Man-edge and
woman-edge could part a hair to within a span of the guard, which was of thick
silver with a carven head at either end. Her grip was onyx bound with silver
bands, two spans long and terminated with an opal. Art had been lavished upon
her; but it is the function of art to render attractive and significant those
things that without it would not be so, and so art had nothing to give her. The
words Terminus Est had been engraved upon her blade in curious and beautiful
letters, and I had learned enough of ancient languages since leaving the Atrium
of Time to know that they meant This Is the Line of Division.

>>721637159
Aren't they pretty useful in Battle Bros cause they have a reach of 2?

>>721637173
>is completely useless in combat
interesting, anon.

>>721633826
no, that would be a pike.

>>721637284
Saved Severian's ass more than once. Yeah, you can't thrust with it, but you still can slash, and it's razor sharp.

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>>721635982
>he spear is the weapon of the peasant.
>meanwhile: most leader gods in a lot of myths use spears

Including Izanagi in Japanese myth.
The spear is literally a symbol of leadership, formations, military commanders, etc.

I will never understand how people are retarded enough that they post AI summaries

>>721636225
swords have been the weapon of office for elevated militarymen ever since the assyrians you mong. a sword is shorter than the spear, because the sword was to be used by men on horse, and guess who was wealthy enough to buy and keep a fucking horse? yeah that's right, slither back in your muddy hole you deluded contrarian.

>>721634715
>I've never been in a fight

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>>721634715

i have never had fun using a spear I don't think. It's pretty cool in Half Sword I guess, when they're trying to hobble towards you with a spear stuck in their thigh

>>721637542
>The most famous sword is wielded by the most famous king
>the most famous spear is wielded by a literal who that wounded the king of kings

>>721634715
The point of any hand weapon is to increase your reach. Have fun going into battle unarmed

>>721634715
Spearcels be seething at this trvke

>>721633826
spear + shield combo conquered the world many times over.

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>>721635218
>meanwhile in ACTUAL real life

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>>721638738
He intentionally lowered his spear to not hit the guy

>>721637542
Looks to me like the difference between spears and swords being the mythological weapon is the difference between pre- and post-Iron Age. Makes sense that swords would start to look cooler once they were made out of good enough metal that they didn't have to be short, stubby, and prone to breaking.

>>721638738
Dude was too much of a pussy to actually poke the guy when he clearly had the chance.

>>721637394
you could have that *and* be able to thrust (which is far more lethal than slashing) if whoever made it had NOT chopped the tip off for no reason whatsoever

>>721639419
>thrust (which is far more lethal than slashing)
It's always kinda discouraging when you realize that sword slashes are defeated by... thick clothes

>>721639485
look on the upside, anon
no one wears thick ass gambesons and padded coifs and shit in 2025

>>721639419
>if whoever made it had NOT chopped the tip off for no reason whatsoever
It is still primarily an executioner's sword. It's from Shadow of the Torturer, which is a story about a guy who had just graduated from Torturer's Guild and now has a license to execute and torture people who are found guilty of breaking the law. Terminus Est is his instrument, but he occasionally has to use it to defend himself.

>>721638454
And got phased out for a reason.

>>721639753
Yeah, guns.

>>721639753

the reason aint swords

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>>721634715
then the knife is the most heroic weapon besides hand to hand wrestling because le true heroes fight "up close" like retards

>>721639121
Oh yeah? Name 35 mythological machine guns, then

>>721633437
A spear is generally considered a rank and files weapon, a big damn videogame hero uses something else, and if he is using a spear he is doing spinning tricks that require 2 free hands

>>721640109
spears in fighting games take a lot from Kung Fu flourishing movements with polearms which are ofc not very practical irl they just look cool.

>>721639952
You're trying to penetrate others men with hard things no matter what, you might as well get out of the closet and wrestle them before assfucking them to assert dominance. Weapons are just dildos for men anyway.

>>721636225
Everyone in the Trojan War used a spear and a sword

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I want to see more games with hook sword.

>>721633437
Was s2 really bad?
I finished 1 and loved it

>>721639693
>all that shit
this is why no one thinks youre cool anon
just keep that shit to yourself, aint no one gives a fuck about whatever youre talking about

>>721640546
NTA, but it's from one of the best sci-fi novels ever written

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>>721640518
Not bad but not better than S1.

>>721633826
>>721637367
>>721638454
Spears come in a variety of lengths and can be both two- or one handed.
Video games tend to be 50/50 on this matter.
But two handed spears are cooler.

>>721637715
>sword is shorter than the spear, because the sword was to be used by men on horse
>>spears weren't used by men on horses
>>only swords
>>because they were shorter
???
So should cavalry swords have been smaller than other swords, but historically were usually made longer by mistake?

>>721638738
This is less a demonstration of spears not being all that and more a demonstration that an enemy willing to die to kill you is almost impossible to stop short of killing them outright.

>>721641791
Lances were specialised spears to be used on horse and highly effective at that.
Default spears were not used on horse.

>>721642167
this is not true in the slightest.

>>721642167
all weapons have been used on horse including rifles, guns, knives, axes, etc

anything except maybe bazookas

>>721633437
Spear and Shield doesn't look as cool as a sword and shield. 2 hand spears are very popular because you can do flashy moves that look cool.

Also fighting against it is just frustrating in a 1v1 situation.

>>721642378
USING THE BACKBLAST FROM MY ZOOKA TO MAKE THE HORSE FASTA

>>721637205
Battle Brothers isn't really an action game and has no combat graphics.

Also 2 handers in that game fuck way harder lategame, and its considerably cooler splitting a peasant bandit in half vertically with a massive axe than to stab him to death with a spear, even without graphics.

>>721642225
Yes it is. While most spears were used on foot, the lance, a modified spear, was the knights primary weapon in warfare.

>>721640938
I eat like this.

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>>721642378
every weapon used on horse was smaller. carbines were smaller than rifles, sabres were smaller than swords, lances were smaller than pikes. the only things bigger on horse were ironically the pistols. turns out that handling big ass weapons while onto the back of a moving big animal is quite cumbersome.

>>721639485
Wasn't it a thing where full plate knight fighting usually ended with them wrestling in the mud and shanking each other with daggers through the gaps?

>>721640518
only the finale was bad, the rest of it was pretty good, very Conan-esque

>>721643026
yes. though it was "cleaner" in a good formation since it was you and three of your buddies just pinning a dude down while you pulled him apart

>>721643026
Yes, that was one tactic.
But there was also half swording, using a hammer or mace, or just raining arrows on your enemy with a squad of archers until you either hit a weakspot in the armor or the blunt force of the hail of arrows takes him out.

a nuke beats every single weapon in this thread and has slightly more range

>>721643318
Nukes are dumb.

>>721643318
Too powerful to be used. Can't be used to hold ground, only to deny it.

>>721643424
only early ones, they got attached to guided propulsion pretty quickly

>>721643459
>can't hold ground, only to deny it.
what a strange thing to say

>>721637159
>but have a geriatric, boring moveset.
Generally speaking, a spear is used to poke, and poke more
So if the game lets it behave as a spear should, it's going to be dull as fuck

>but muh chinese martial arts sweeping spears
That's at best used to feint or maybe scare off someone. If you want to harm with a spear, you poke with it

Nearly all melee in games derivatives from dungeon crawlers.
Have fun fighting in tight-ass corridors with a spear.

>>721643579
You need to use the spear as a super ineffective mace and bash people with it.

>>721643026
It was one method, but a good warhammer or spiked hammer to the chest, head, or pretty much anywhere worked wonders too
Or halberds to cleave, stab and hook any knight

>>721643756
A spear is the ideal weapon for fighting in a corridor thoughbeit.

>>721643756
>tight-ass corridors
Hot. I'm cumming.

>>721643793
You mean a staff?
The spear of the not really wanting to kill them world?

>>721643793
Nigga, are you Donatello or something?
the turtle, not the artist

>>721635982
>he spear is the weapon of the peasant. the sword is the symbol of nobility
The spear is the weapon of formal warfare, the sword is the weapon of casual violence or self defence. The real difference between the weapons is how practical it is to carry them while you're drinking at an Inn

>>721643958
The mace/hammer/club is the weapon of the legendary warrior.
The spear is the weapon of the mundane warrior.
The sword is the weapon of self defense for a noble man.

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>>721633437
People like swords more.

>>721644374
Dumb russians!
Why use real swords and not wear armor?

>>721633437
polearms are better with two hands

>>721644567
Spears are different from other polearms.
One handed spears did exist and vikings used them.

>>721634715
Being able to poke your opponent from a distance has been the dominating meta of warfare in all of history. Now we just make more convenient ways to poke harder and further away.

>>721644510
its some shit savage retarded people like germans and slavoids are into
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dueling_scar

>>721638738
>>721639119
It is true that if you are able to get past the spearhead it will be difficult for the spearman to attack you few people realize that spearmen with shields often come in packs where you would be instantly killed by the two other spearmen on either side of the first one if he doesn't just shield bash you in the face already.

>>721644510
I think I know of that group. Holmgang Hamburg. They're retards who killed two of their members and disbanded
They used sharp swords out of some retarded belief that it's how it was "really done back then" (it wasn't, federschwerts and blunt trainers date back as far back as people trained with and made swords)

>>721633437
It evokes niggers and tribal warriors so they're afraid of being called out by woke dudes

>>721638738
Anon, the fist second alone has spear guy having the perfect opportunity to impale axe guy, he only doesn't to not kill him but axe guy has multiple openings.

>>721644510
They're German.

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The sword is a slightly more all-purpose weapon and associated with nobility, traditionalists (read: trad) also tend to prefer swords because of the knightly image and the common use of the Roman gladius, hence the misrepresentation of the longsword, bastard sword, or "hand and a half" sword as an actual one-handed sword knights would use, including the fantasy interpretation with stuff like the Master Sword in Zelda and FromSoftware games (though From is also better about it, the "straight sword" category tends to be traditional arming swords and stubbier than longswords/bastard swords)

Serious large-scale fighting is done pretty much always at whatever distance you can get, leaving melee weapons an emergency option or intended for duels, duels get romanticized to all hell and back

>>721633437
It's hard to make a spear look cool

>>721645127
There is nothing wrong with using sharp swords IF YOU WEAR ARMOR!!! If you have the full suit with plate, padding and chainmail for the gaps, not much will happen unless you deliberately half sword and stab into the gaps.
Why don't the dumb russians wear armor?

>>721646220
Because they are retarded germans.

>>721646390
Germans are not retarded. Most germans use weightened plastic swords or blunted metal swords and armor.

>>721646220
>There's nothing wrong with using sharp swords if you wear armor
Unless you are training/fighting with techniques designed to defeat armor, which you will be. Otherwise you'd have the typical fencing equipment seen across the world in numerous styles of fencing because that's trying to emulate unarmored combat in as safe a method as can be
>>721646592
They are retarded Germans who don't know what they're doing. Holmgang Hamburg was a German group, not Russian.

>>721646592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBF6YDwhUU

>>721639753
they were replaced with guns lmao

and then someone got the idea of what if my gun had a knife on the end of it

so now guns are also all short spears

>>721646652
>>721646707
>Russian emigrants go to germany to abuse the broken welfare system.
>Get bored because they don't have to work.
>Found a russian swordfighting group in germany.
This is what happened.

>>721646919
why are you banging on about the russians so hard when you are clearly and demonstrably wrong?

>>721646981
They are the people who spar with sharp weapons and not wear armor.
At this point it isn't sparring anymore but an actual fight where you try to kill the enemy.

>>721633437
Because you're a faggot why wants another Sonic rep in Smash.

>>721646919
The members were German. The people they killed were German. They were not Russian. I don't get why you're harping on so much about them being Russian.
Maybe you're a German who's upset that your country has its share of retards too. Welcome to real life, there's morons everywhere.

>>721644225
maces are a symbol of authority, they represent law and order and are used to beat peasants in line rather than to kill

>>721634715
git rekt flamberge shitter

>>721647186
No! I went to a german fencing group and they all used blunted swords and wore full body cutproof suits and they even had a first adi kit if something happened.
Then I went on a vacation to russia and went to a fencing group there and they had a rule to be topless with only pants on and used actual, real sharp swords. The floor was littered with blood, human flesh and various mangled human corpses and some animal corpses and I instantly noped out and ran as fast as I could.

>>721647568
I see that you are a genuine moron

anon, the people you claim to have met personally are not the same people in the video

>>721647568
ai post

>>721647240
>beat peasants in line rather than to kill
You are confusing a mace with a baton.
A mace will kill you quite easily.

>>721647568
>No! I went to a german fencing group and they all used blunted swords and wore full body cutproof suits and they even had a first adi kit if something happened.
And guess what
Holmgang Hamburg was a German fencing group full of a bunch of retards who used sharp swords. The members were German. The group was founded in Germany. The people they killed were German. If there is a Russian group doing similar things (not surprising considering I've seen this mindset from other retards who think blunt swords never existed until now) they are unrelated, at best inspired by the German group who became relatively noteworthy by being retards and posting it online, then killing some people and breaking apart.
What makes you think a single fencing group is an indicator of every single group in existence in a country of 80+ million people?

>>721647568
>video evidence of some germans being retarded
>no they're russians I know this because in my mind I went to russia and that's how they all were, no I don't have any evidence, my personal anecdote I just made up is better evidence than the video and proven identities of the germans in the video, therefore those germans are actualy russians

what a bizarre mental illness you have

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>>721633437
Because spears are gay realismfag weapons meant for the peasant hordes, swords/hammers/maces and axes are cooler. Polearms can be cool though like halberds and glaives.

>>721647749
Violence is normal in everyday life in russia and people get killed all the time. It's no big deal in russia. You just kinda deal with the fact that every day you wake up could very well be your last.
Human life holds no value in russia.
I genuinelly do not know how russians are not gone extinct yet. They must breed a lot.
I had a friend who went on vacation in russia and randomly got stabbed by a fat russian man.

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Spear > sword > axe

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glaive is a true chads weapon

>>721647974
Most soldiers are professionals not peasants, this is one of the biggest misconceptions ever.

>>721648197
We're talking vidya not boring ass real life.

>>721648048
no you didn't that was your sister

>>721648172
french hands typed this post

>>721633826
You can't throw a spear with two hands, retard.

>>721648532
Yes you can.
It just won't do as much damage as you will probably hit with the blunt side when throwing a spear.

>>721633437
is this show good?

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>>721633437
the stereotype of the sword being the noble warrior's weapon, in reality the spear and derivated weapons were the most broken weapon, then arrows, then guns

>>721648197
>Most soldiers are professionals
You guys keep thinking of things like its a movie. Soldiers/warriors are all either conscripted or pressganged or forced to join until they die young or get lucky enough to survive.

>>721633437
Swords are a symbol of nobility. Also costs more than sharp pointy metal on a stick.

>>721637791
>I've never been in a fight
How many fights involving spears and swords have you been in?

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>>721648110
Spear beats sword.
Sword beats axe.
But axe beats spear.
How can an axe beat something that can beat something it can't beat?
That does not make sense.
If an axe can beat a pear, you must acquit.

>>721633437
Swords look cooler and allow for more creative fight choreography.

They’re a more romantic weapon overall.

>>721641791
Modern cavalry swords were made of high quality steel, so they could be made longer. Back when people were making swords out of Bronze, they had a strict limit for how long they could be while remaining sufficiently rigid. If the Ancients had access to modern steel and tempering techniques, then they absolutely would have made their swords as long as possible.

>>721648674
>Guns below spears
Do spearfags really? There is not a single weapon that beats guns.

>>721638738
Based baldzerker

>>721649065
pussy

>>721648668
It's good until the two protags start encountering regular humans.

>>721648958
FE weapon triangle nonsense.
Reality is axe is more tool than weapon but it's still effective as a killing implement and definitely effective vs wooden shields. When you're a society that just uses whatever, axes are really fucking good for that.

>>721633437
not flashy
it has one attack with usually one animation: poke

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hammer+axe > everything else

>>721648958
Lucerne hammer beats great hammer
Great Hammer beats poleaxe
Poleaxe beats mace
Mace beats hatchet
Hatchet beats greatsword
Greatsword beats sword
Sword beats knife
Knife beats branch
Branch beats Katana
Katana beast Wakizashi

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>>721649065
>There is not a single weapon that beats guns
wheeeeeeeaoooooow

>>721648683
>You guys keep thinking of things like its a movie. Soldiers/warriors are all either conscripted or pressganged or forced to join until they die young or get lucky enough to survive.
As always, depends on the time and place
By the late 1300's in Europe (Specifically England, France, and other Western European places), everyone on a battlefield was a professional soldier or some other non-peasant.
We have historical evidence that says this. We have wages, we have documentation and proof of this.
That isn't to say that peasantry didn't quit to join a militarized force, but it was distinctly by choice because as an Englishman, being a soldier in the King's army was a lucrative job that paid exceptionally well. A day of marching paid for your sword. Another day your armor. Another day your bow (provided you signed up as an archer, which you likely did because they got paid better)

>>721649185
You mean season 2? Yeah, it was worse, but still okay.

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battle axe (but the proper one none of that middle ages crap) > everything else

>>721649756
I'd classify that more as a vehicle if human controlled or as a missile if not which is like the big brother of a bullet.

>>721648936
Prometheus and Bob lookin ahh bich

>>721638454
That's why it's being suppressed by big media. They don't want people to use spears and overthrow the current status quo.

>>721649883
That's the head of a warhammer.

>>721649883
kinda looks like a hippo with big ears

>>721643026
Knights mainly fight horseback using lance anyway. They got countered by pikes eventually but some (the Polish) adapt by using a longer lance.

>>721633437
I know it works well in 1v1 but it doesn't feel as good if you're not side by side with your brothers forming a wall

>>721638454
>killed the megafauna
>conquered various nations
>gets suppressed by media and enthusiasts in favor of sword variants from katanas to claymores to longswords or axes
Why?

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>>721650052
Much like in video games, ornamented and decorated weapons did exist in real life too.

>>721650138
Gun and sword shills are paid by Israel to convince people they don't want to check out of politics and return to monke.

>>721650138
>killed the megafauna
That's not a good accomplishment.
And nukes killed more animals than spars.

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>>721650512
>spars
ESL trog.

>>721650675
I missed the E key, you dumb ESL mongrel.

What if you tied 5 swords to the end of a spear?

>>721651386
A very slow, cumbersome weapon that would hit devastatingly but would be trivial to dodge and punish.

>>721633437
In real life sword+shield beats spear+shield, because the spear loses a lot of its versatility if held one-handed. At least in a duel-scenario. Army vs army is a different beast.

The spear cannot be sheathed, unlike the sword, so you have to carry it in your hands all the time, which makes you look more like a soldier going to war than a hero who uses his weapon only when needed.

The sword is a pure weapon created with the sole purpose of killing men.The spear used to be a tool for hunting. That gives the sword the higher score on coolness.

Subjective, but swords are more aesthetically pleasing because they have a more "balanced" look.

Swords are a more artful and more challenging to make. Even a mediocre smith can make functional spears, but making a good sword takes a lot of skill and experience. This makes the sword more awe-inducing as a piece of craftsmanship.

Not only in the making but also in the use department is the sword the weapon that requires much more skill and training and has a higher skill ceiling. Thus, it gives the hero more room to grow, and is more impressive as a skill. Spears are a weapon for armies for a reason: Cheap to make and fast to learn even for the less talented fighter.
A master of the sword is awesome, a master of the spear sounds llke a paralympics title in comparison.

>>721633437
Spears are battlefield weapons that are best used in formation. Swords are a status symbol and more suitable to 1 on 1 combat. Interestingly the opposite is true in Chinese culture which is why the S-tier God weapon in every Chinese game is a spear instead of a sword.

>>721637542
>AI summary
wow you really proved your point with that randomly-generated sentence bro

>>721643459
what do you mean too powerful and can't be used?

>>721651621
Meanwhile hammers and maces
>Can't be sheated but can be worn on the back if not needed.
>Derived from a literal heavy stick! Doesn't care.
>Pure weapon of carnage and mass destruction!! Maxed out cool value.
>Maxed out beauty value. You want to cuddle it in your bed if it wasn't for the spikey bits.
>Nearly indestructable. Might outlive multiple generations if well made.
>Takes no skill to pick up and use but is still just as difficult to fully master as the sword.

>>721652180
Not to forget:
>still dangerous even against armor, unlike the sword, which damages itself more than the target
>"please sharpen me after use, I need a lot of care because of how gay I am"
>"I am also used best against other swords because of how gay I am, thihi"
>Inbetween battles, soldiers used to unscrew the pummels of the sword to wear as buttplugs, to get off better, making swords even more gay

>>721650512
>And nukes killed more animals than spars
Nukes or even modern weaponry hasn't killed even a fraction of the animals spears and arrows have in all of human history.

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>>721652180
>>Can't be sheathed but can be worn on the back if not needed.
What makes you think that? Slip the shaft through a ring on the belt. Pic related is just the first thing I found online. There's no evidence to suggest anyone ever wore a mace on the back, or any weapon in Europe (You can find back carrying for transport in Asia. It's possible this was done in Europe but there's no proof of it)
>Nearly indestructable. Might outlive multiple generations if well made.
It wasn't unusual for maces/hammers to have hollow shafts if they were steel hafted. These could buckle and bend. Flanges break. Hammer spikes can bend and break. Everything needs maintenance
It also wasn't unusual for swords to be cut down and reground to suit later period battlefields. We see lots of museum finds of swords that have been clearly reworked to suit their modern battlefield. It was entirely possible a sword you brought into battle was made in your fathers or grandfather's generation (We see this with Jeanne D'arc's Sword of Saint Catherine)
>Takes no skill to pick up and use but is still just as difficult to fully master as the sword.
"Edge" alignment is still a concern with a hammer and as difficult as a sword
The smaller striking face compared to a sword blade makes distance and timing much more critical. If you strike the opponent with the shaft by mistake, your weapon could be bound or catch on something. A sword edge doesn't have that concern, just pull down and you slice into them
It takes an equal or arguably more skill to use a warhammer effectively than a sword

>>721652946
>Sword hater
>Projects his own homosexual fantasies onto others
Many such cases

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>>721633437
Spears are primarily a unit weapon. If you were on your own having your epic duel you'd chuck the spear, and pull out your sword.

Having a second prop when your protagonist isn't doing anything important, making a whole set of animations, drawing a weapon that only gets used for a second.

>>721636225
My guy, Achilles had a sword. We literally see him do what people were trained to do throughout the history of man. If you're alone, throw the spear, pull out the sword.

>>721637068
Even if you were the lowliest wretch it was exceedingly rare for even soldiers whose primary weapon was ranged, and were expected to run away rather than get stuck in to not have some kind of sword, or at least an axe.

People running away is really bad militarily. If you've only got a spear, you'll be more prone to run away if you're out of formation, or if something happens to your spear. This also has the side benifit of when you're doing things outside of being on the battlefield, a guy digging a trench might bring his sword with him but he certainly isn't carrying a shovel, and a spear.

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>>721638454
>blocks you're path

>>721653785
>Play old school RPG
>All the low level weapons are varied and unique with daggers, maces, staves and bow and arrow.
>All the high level weapons for the endgame are just the same boring old sword in multiple recolors.
I can kinda get sword haters.

>>721650052
I mean moose are just northern hippos with how big and murderous they are

>>721650002
wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alunda_moose

>>721633437
>sword
Actual answer? Because swords are expensive. Spears were for peasants and foot soldiers.
Swords were status symbols as much as they were weapons.

>>721654331
Counterpoint:
Where blade?

>>721633437
Spears aren't cool and heroic, they're for sidecharacters and nameless grunts

>>721653180
>Spear an animal
>1 animal dies
>Moderate chance to die yourself depending on skill and physique

>Drop nuke
>Entire eco system destroyed at once
>Profit ... ?

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These threads are always great, you're all so astoundingly stupid

>>721654679
Who did you mean?

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>Meleetards arguing over who's king of shit-mountain when in reality the progression of weaponry was Sling -> Bow -> Crossbow -> Gun

>>721654490
clearly the ears

>>721654781
You are the jartycuck.

>>721652180
Which is why they're associated with dumb muscle characters

>>721654863
>Which is why they're associated with the strongest, most powerful and most athletic fighters rather than common footmen.

>>721654781
Little bro calling others meleetards probably cant even lift a broadsword

>>721655529
I bet if >>721654781 actually fired a 9mm gun, his arms would rip off.

>>721653329
That pic, while I get your point, isnt the same as a sheath. The blade is still exposed and dangerously close to your hands and hips as well as a sensitive regions of yourself and others your standing near.
Sheathing a sword was not just to protect the blade, but to protect the user from the blade.

Of course only really an issue with axes or maces with pointy bits.
Hammers and flat maces dont really have the same issue

>>721640518
Many episodes much better that S1 and some much much worse.

>>721651957
Try Nuking some in front of you.

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>>721656236
On it

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>>721633437
You know why.

>>721656787
Trash military.
One fat stonemason without any weapons or armor could take down hordes of these guys.

>>721633437
romans styled on all the barbar and greek homosex enjoyers with their shortswords

>>721657219
The stone mason fell into a cauldron full of super steroids as a kid, it's not even remotely fair to compare the two.

>>721634264
Yeah, that's why phalanxes and shield walls + spears have dominated the pre-firearm meta IRL for thousands of years. It just werks.

>>721655529
>cant even lift a broadsword
An archer would mog any meleetard given the strength needed to shoot an arrow, especially coming from Longbows.

>>721658101
Why haven't they?

>>721658101
>Archer shoots an ogre (melee user)
>Arrow gets stuck in the ogres thick hide like a wasp sting
>Ogre grabs archer
>Rips off head
>Cooks archer
>Eats archer

>>721633437
Swords are heroic and sexy and require great skill to properly wield, spears have too much reach and can also be thrown and requires nothing beyond poking forward so it's a coward's weapon

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>>721651667
An excellent spearman will spitroast an equivalent swordsman in almost every theoretical engagement that doesn't specifically rely on some cartoonish advantages/concessions given to said swordsman. You are 100% correct in every regard other than that.

>>721653997
>shielded box formation
WHAT GENGHIS GON DO

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>>721658832
Keep firing into the shield box and win the war lmao

>>721647952
>>721647886
>>721647842
>>721647749
>>721648356
Kremlin-sponsored posts

>>721658721
>some cartoonish advantages/concessions given to said swordsman.
like a shield?

>>721658898
Doesn't fucking count shut up. Box formation works when horse archers can't replenish their arrows indefinitely. Battle of Carrhae was just an anomaly among battle scenarios.

>>721638738
any weapon in the hands of a pussy becomes useless lmao

White people think spear = black because they only ever obsess over black people 24 hours a day

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>>721659213
>spear = black
That's true though,

>>721659081
>Box formation works when horse archers can't replenish their arrows indefinitely.
Are you suggesting the Mongolian Golden Horde, which extended farther than almost any empire in history, would have a shortage of arrows brought to the front?

>>721659213
I do not care about niggers past using "Nigger" as a funny meme word.
And honestly, if it didn't make so many people seethe, I probably wouldn't care about the word at all.

>>721654573
Anon, how many fucking nukes do you think were dropped on natural ecosystems dense with wildlife? How long do you think humans have had nukes? Stop being retarded.

>>721659453
If the Europeans just burned all their forests down, polluted their own rivers, and destroyed all their crops before the Mongols arrived, yes. It takes a lot to feed a horde.

>>721648048
Holy fuck do pigger really live thinking like this? I can see why Ziggers call you "Judeoniggers" now, kinda hard to dissagree

>>721660330
English please.
I don't talk whatever that language is supposed to be.

>>721633437
spears aren't fun to use.

>>721660498
>I don't know what language is that
We know anon, it's Ok
https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/survey-growing-number-us-adults-lack-literacy-skills-rcna183498

>>721660901
"pigger", "Ziggers" and "Judeoniggers" are not english words.

>>721655762
>puts bit of leather over blade
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW HOW COULD I HAVE KNOWN
Are you seriously so fucking retarded that you think that a leather slip couldn't be made to solve the exact problem you're describing?
Scythes literally had sheathes to protect the blade/owner before modern machinery existed to replace them entirely.

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>>721650138
>sword variants from katanas to claymores to longswords or axes
>read this
>have mental lapsus about what a claymore was

>>721633437
Spears were the weapon of war and was retard proof for the peasants to use. Swords required training. So all the richfags trained with it and larped as if they were the heroes of humanity.

>>721663519
Axes are a type of sword.

>>721639753
Yeah, muskets became a thing.

>>721650512
>>721650887
If it's any consolation you made me laugh because I read it as
>SIR YOU HAVE TO USE THE SPARS THEY ARE BETTER THAN NUKES

>>721664237
ESL kike.

>>721645602
Dragoons in Final Fantasy manage it

>>721654781
its actually bow->sling->crossbow->gun but mainstream history books dont want you to know this important fact.

>>721633437
>Combo: Thrust > Thrust > High thrust
>Charge attack: Heavy thrust
>Dash attack: Running thrust
>Jump attack: Downward thrust
>Finisher: Running Thrust?
How do you even make spears not boring in an ARPG. I would like to include them because historical significance, but you just can't make a cool moveset for them like other polearms that are swung AND thrust.

>>721664392
Alright.

>The Virgin Swordsman
>The CHAD Spearman
>The LAD Axeman

>>721633437
I remember one of the rare Darksoul 2 battle I had,
someone invade, I run, take the time of switching to spear and shield.
Did very well against his sword/shield because he had little reach as a result, while I could defend.

>>721664796
Good morning, saar.

>>721665005
I have 20+ years of medieval combat experience and this is entirely accurate

Halberds are the coolest! The best!

>>721665005
>laughs in mounted archers

People probably see spears as "savage" and swords as "civilized" or more "dignified".
Spears are obviously the superior weapon though.

>>721664778
Megaman Zero had a cool spear

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>>721636225
Swords were definitely the weapon of nobility.
Not to go into japanese worshipping katana and having shorter wakizashi to carry around making their status of samurai clear.
Spear were obviously useful and impressive but mostly if you were on a horse.

>>721633437
Spears are lanky

>>721665772
The wakizashi is the biggest meme in history. I would rather fight bare fisted.

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>>721655762
>>721661346
chill out

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>>721638738
I would also swing in the air like that if I knew the guy in front of me will never risk hurting me, while I can "win" just by hitting the shield.

>>721648532
Depending on the culture spears are generally not thrown, they tend to be heavier and are often a primary weapon, and it isn't a good idea for a primary weapon to be thrown away. If the weapon is meant to be thrown it is usually called a javelin.

>>721666374
The problem was that he didn't use a mace.
If he used a mace and not a blade, he would have vanished in a cloud of smoke and then reappeared behind the gunman, weapon readied to smash his skull in.

>>721643318
yet no one wins with them because no one wants to be the first to use them
check mate

where is your god now?

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>>721666640

>>721666719
Tranny

>>721669109
you introduce yourself, as expected from honorable opponent
>shoot you

>>721669219
Not that anon, but i'mma crush yer balls before crushing your skull.

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>>721633826
retardicus maximus

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>>721669396
>shoot you twice, then more

>>721633826
so is a sword
the spear is mightier than the sword

>>721643575
If you want to take over a piece of territory or defeat a group of people, nuking so neither you or anybody else can ever live on it ever again is the definition of retardation- especially when everyone else who has nukes specifically tells you not to do that

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>>721633437
Finish Sym Bionic Titan already

>>721664778
Yea it just doesn't look as cool for the most part

>>721664778
perfect for fighting in tight dungeon corridors and poking past your sword and shield bro in front

>>721670516
Blonde Ashi...

>>721633437
Spears are free and too effective. They're actively left out of as much media as possible. You have people worried about guns, but a person with a spear gets you in a hallway and you're fucked if they're not retarded. There was a case a decade or so ago where the security team defended the prime minister here with a makeshift spear.

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>spearfag tries to poke me
>grab the spear
>yank it out of his hand and break it over my knee
>slash him in half with my elegant sharp sword
>even if he manages to hit me with his fag spear the tip is so small it'll barely do any damage

>>721670516
sex