Why no thread?Captcha:GMS 8PM
>>721665721Yuricuck YWNBAW
Did everyone finish the game or did mods start throwing a melty like they did with deltarune?
>>721666012>Fucks men>"Used goods">Fucks women>"Yuricuck"There are no winners in this war
Is there a mod for silksong that adds a map system similar to metroid or castlevania where rooms that you explore are marked on the map but not the whole area? I despise hollow knights map system but i also don‘t want everything revealed from the start>>721666789There‘s a bait thread up that everyone is shitposting in
>>721665721this is too lewd
>>721665721Hottest shit I've seen out of Silksong, but no way this survives on a blue board
>When you know that at least one of the Silksong devs played Night of Revenge, but you just can't prove it.
>>721667216Is this the only ACT H ge you've played?
Bros I'm being filtered by fucking Lost Garmond.Those void missiles he shoots are so fucking hard to dodge and he spams that shit all the time. Also, every time I respawn and I see Zaza desperate for me to help it breaks my fucking heart. I had a rough day yesterday and when I got to that part for the first time it genuinely made me feel like complete shit. I don't even know if I want to finish the fight...Fuck you Team Cherry for this specifically.
>>721667216YOU JUST KNOW
>>721667634maybe the parry could help with the projectiles
>>721667634>Those void missilesrun back a little and single jumpor just stay close and jump behind him and beat his ass
https://youtu.be/Cc7aPzKIbBA
>>721666798I got the yuri game I wanted, so yeah I won
>>721667634Just jump over him when he shoots the missiles, he pauses for a full second before firing them so you can get behind him pretty easily
>>721668178>teethwhat the fuck
>>721665721I killed her
>>721665721haha what if lace tickled her mercilessly while she was bound like that it would be funny I think haha
Who here /comfy/still in act 2, just got my 3rd nail upgrade
>>721668686Nice bell. Good taste.
am i missing something up here? there's a platform above the building
Karmelita is kicking my ass
>>721668121>>721668178Why is this tranny spamming xis troonfics again?
Just wandering around. Found Verdania by chance because I was told about the Crawfather and I've been unable to get that event. Can't believe hornet just killed a guy and had like No dialogue or notes for it. It feels so fucking weird. It's cool that it's a secret path that you might not really know about on a first playthrough but its just weird tonally. Really liked the area atleastVery pretty.
>>721669179He was a homosexual, it had to be done.
>>721665721>general thread outside of /vg/
>>721669179She doesn't like the gaysOr je- flies. She's basically /our/ chud
I bet shit like this is why team cherry thinks beast is strong enough to warrant its handicaps.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJSVHxwIHpA
>>721669179FagPrince had a point it was rude for Hornet to get into his memories uninvited, but then he was>I dont appreciate your meddling, now die>*dies himself*
Wait. This door isn't neccessary is it? It's just for accessing wormways early. Waste of a key.
>>721669603Don't forget snails
>>721669063This shit drove me mad as well, but no. Two more small secret areas in act 3, after getting another item
>>721669179act 3 is so fucked narratively that i just stopped caring.
>>721669945forgor
>>721669179>get three hearts, turn them in to the snails>go to get karmelita's heart for my wall>hornet doesn't even have different dialogue for this scenario, she straight up lies to karmelita and says she needs it to save pharloom even though i already have the flower in my inventoryact 3 is a rushed hackjob they added at the last minute, there's no other explanation for all the weird shit in it
>>721669945You can get wanderer very early. Got it as my first crest, but I only came to appreciate it later on.
Is there a point to get beads on act 3? I already got my last nail upgrade
>>721670315Rosary canon ammo
>>721665721Third worlder thread.
>>721669945>>721670056I think there are parts you can't get to without the key.
just got reserve bind, seems pretty handy
>>721665721that's fucking disgusting. I hate you>>721669945>>721670056same with the deep docks locked door, it's just an alternate way in, allowing you to get certain items sooner. for example with the wormways door you can get wanderer crest before even fighting bell beast (realistically it's going to take you a bit longer to get 500 rosaries for the first simple key)>>721670513not true for wormways if you have wall cling and not true for deep docks if you have harpoon
i can't do this quest, i barely got to the fleas camp which is almost half-way until the Courier's Rasher went out. And i used the tool that gives me speed.
>reach coral towers>Maybe I should try shaman and witch for once since there are so many enemies>mfw that tiny little heal hitbox for witch>that garbage dash attack for shaman>that garbage garbage attack speed>that garbage everythingLet's be honest, team cherry needs to buff these crests, magic feels like shit in this game
>>721670925Don't get hitDon't run into wallsClear the area first, enemies only respawn on bench restOr get the mod, idk
>>721670646definitely better than fractured mask since you should be comfortably getting guaranteed heals in really any scenario
>>721670929Shaman is OP with spell spam and can generate silk at range, but you need to be comfortable with not healing
>>721670925if you take "fall damage" it counts as normal damage to the rasher. same with running directly into walls.equip silkspeed anklets and flea brew, defeat all enemies between the two locations and DON'T BENCH, then start the delivery again. you have double jump right?
>>721671159What spell spam? After doing 3 spells you need to refill your silk and shaman attacks are garbage
>>721671237>>721662240
first sinner is such a good fight, it might actually be my favourite
>>721670929>>721671237>shaman attacks are garbagejesus christ you're retarded. it'd be one thing if you were talking about a few specific boss fights but you're talking about an enemy arena with flying enemies; shaman does an excellent job.
>>721670925>i can'tYou can. If you haven't pre-cleared the enemies I'd definitely recommend doing so. The quest you a pretty good cushion of time/hits. So if your problem is that you're taking too many hits, you can afford to slow down a little. And if your problem is that you're running out of time, then you can afford to play a little riskier to go faster.And don't forget your clawline. It makes ascending up the blasted steps much faster.
>>721671362>bass booms on every attackyeah, I'm thinking kino
>>721670929Beast crest is what needs a buff. What do you MEAN no Blue slots AND has a pogo that takes eons for it's hitbox to come out AND it has an odd trajectory?
>>721669923Well it's weird because he shares those intimate details with her every time they encounter each other outside of the throne room. I understand we were probably tracking the one that sacrificed himself body and soul to become the Cogwork template but I wish they expressed that a bit more clearly. Especially since you spare all these other people like Trobio, Pinstress, and Sentinel when she could have easily killed them too but no this dude gets the high pressure blood treatment
>>721671338I didn't unlock the swords yet>>721671370>Actually defending shaman slow as shit attacks Kill yourself
>>721671362Same, but I can't be the only one who was annoyed she reused Widow's theme, right? Both fights already echo one another in certain aspects, but that specifically felt lazy.
I like when Silksong sometimes goes >meĵina fora
>>721671653>slow as shit attackslet me guesswanderer?
>>721671653shaman has big range that lets you cheese enemies without getting close and hit air enemies easily
It's kind of odd that you can't reconnect the Terminus to the Cradle in the third act, it would have been nice when I went back to fill the entry for those flying beetles
>>721670778Yeah you're right. It's because this part is left side breakable only
>need to kill 20 of theseyeah defend this one retards
>>721671797I think it makes sense when you consider that less a boss theme for Widow and more one for Weavers in general. Sort of like how Unravelled and Legoli and Broodmother share a theme as the unsettling/disgusting bosses. I think it works too because we're seeing what Widow could have been like if she wasn't crippled and brainwashed by the citadel
>>721671929you kill 20 on your runback to last judge
>>721671929just give up, you'll never get that achievement
>>721671929>He runs away from the driznits
>>721671929honestly I feel like the kills requirements are a smidge too high across the board
>>721671929fo shiznit my driznit
Wait what happens to this thing again? Second playthrough here and I don't have this in my first. It gets made into something right?
>>721672230nah it's sneed soul only and replaces the "keep some rosaries on death" meme tool since that does nothing in sneed soul
>>721672192You know what would've been neat? A spot in each region with some kind of bell you could ring that would summon a gauntlet full of enemies to attack you.
>>721672192Nah I was only missing 7 dudes by the time I cared about completing the journal just by playing naturally
>>721672317Oh. Cool. I misremembered.Why are you saying sneed soul so
>>721671828Obviously >>721671857You can use clawline and harras enemies with any crest except shaman because again, those attacks are so fucking slowYou can dash with any crest and get near someone easily, but again it's impossible with shaman because the dash attacks it's so fucking trashIt's ironic how the game gives you tools to deal with ranged enemies that outclass shaman as the "ranged" weapon
>hornet says all pale beings are heartless monsters>was raised by a pale being, one who she deeply respects and gives her the macguffin to save fartloomWhat gives?
>>721672452formerly save and quit
>>721672603Pale King did everything wrong.
>>721672603She says that all Pale Beings crave dominance and control, not that they're all heartless.
>>721670925It sucks but it's absolutely doable
>>721670929where do I get all these extra crests? I don't have shaman, witch, or architect and I'm already past the coral towers.
>>721672603She says that when you encounter a pale being destruction or worship are your only options. The white lady is the odd one out but Radiance, King and Silk all fit that mold. It could be that she's a lot more chill because she got to express her desire, that to propagate unchecked, for a long period before her mate died so her nature has been changed consciously and through force of will.
>>721672794>"Devotion or destruction. Those are the only two fates my kind allow." Seems pretty heartless to me
>>721672975>witchSide quest.>architectYou need a specific amount of tools before you can buy the architect key from that big robot lady.>shamanAct 3 snail shack.
>>721671362It's definitely my favorite fight so far it helps that there's no runback
Only just got into Act 3. GMS was kind of a let down compared to Radiance desu. Died more to savage beast fly and Groal than her.
>>721672992>Live a good life as long as you respect the godbugSounds good to me.
>>721673054ah ok that makes sense
>>721672986PK didn't destroy the other tribes thoughever. He made truces, treaties and alliances
>Fractured maskYou did not beat the game>Reaper crestYou did not beat the game>hunter crestYou did not beat the game>Wandered crestYou did not beat the game>Witch crestYou did not beat the game>Shaman crestYou did not beat the game>Architect crestYou did not beat the game>TacksYou did not beat the game>Thread stormYou did not beat the game>Using npcs to beat the bossesYou did not beat the game>Upgrade your swordYou did not beat the game
>>721672975Shaman is act 3 onlyCoral towers is for a boss in act 3Witch is from a mission, you need to go throw a secret passage that goes into Bilewater to get the baby and start a quest. I don't know, google this one For the architect crest you need 20 tools and buy the architect key from the big ant NPC
>>721673293that was a read
>>721671362first sinner, phantom, lace, last judge all the fights against humanoid characters are good and feel fun.beastfly, groal, broodmother, unraveled are all shit.
>>721673293No only she dodged, she humiliated you with a butt attack
replaying Hollow Knight, why can't you deliver the delicate flower to Hornet? she's right there in front of the temple. why the fk can you deliver it to Elderbug or Emilitia but not your sister?
On my second playthrough heading to the Citadel via Exhaust Organ. Feels good being able to just blitz through the boss fights now. Not even bothering with picking up any mask shards along the way.
so we all agree HK soundtrack > Silksong soundtrack right?
What is the best crest and why is it reaper
>>721673662Naaahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hM_Hp37By0
Is act 2 hard tied to Last Judge lol? Can I just explore everything in the citadel and just not beat him until I need to?
>>721585648>>721586358>>721587348>>721588582>>721588949
>>721673662Silksong boss music > HK boss musicHK non-boss music >> SS non-boss music
Tried to draw what I would imagine Hornet looks behind her mask. Gave her white hair because I found the idea cute & Silk has white hair. Also placed her in the Citadel baths because I generally try to draw stuff with a background these days.
>>721673512Because the delicate flower is for retards who can't move on. Also hornet would probably tell you to fuck off
>>721673662Both soundtracks are boring as fuck. At least silksong has more variety.
>>721673735It's a crest for shitters who can't use wanderer
>Start watching some youtubers play Silksong>One of them literally just calls any level of inconvenient platforming "Path of Pain">This includes the Exhaust OrganSomehow it becomes even more painful when you actually see how people who complain about this shit play.
>>721673202Dude tried to break Deepnest because they wouldn't play along. Yes he was a good king but if you don't bend the knee he will try and make you do so by force because it's his nature to control everything. Great for most but some still want their independence.
I’m a little bummed that in my first playthrough I did the scale platforms puzzle and found the hidden wall to explore the choral chambers before going in the elevator and plummeting to the underworks.
>>721673798why is she an ant?
>>721673868>Also hornet would probably tell you to fuck offwell i would've prefered if she did tell me to fuck off, rather than the game not even giving me the option to offer it
>5 in the entire map>they don't respawn>need to kill all 5 to finish the bestiarydefend this one, retardsliterally impossible to complete without looking them up
>>721673914silk song is basically a giant path of pain, this is correct
>>721673914Watching idiots play like that makes you understand why some fags say you didn't beat the game if you picked something like wanderer's crest. Playing well isn't the problem, it's the fact shitters will just rely on it and never learn.
>>721673914>exhaust organThere’s not even any difficult play forming there. The only areas that are even close to appropriate to label “path of pain” are the mountain, the path to the surface, and the volcano escape. And even then, none of those are even comparable to path of pain
>>721673798That's really nice actually. Hornet isn't wearing a mask though.
>>721673963I did it. I only had 3 things missing in the beastiary when I decided to complete it.
>>721673963You know how some quests have that tracking feature? It would be cool if you could select an entry in the journal and then it would leave a trail for you to follow to find that particular enemy.
act 3 map is not comfy
Tell me all the non-obvious tech>down dash>silk storrn extension if held>architect pogo travels farther if heldanything else? I haven't tried double binder on beast crest, does it do anything?Best crest to clash with normal attacks?
>>721674083>Play with the crest that specifically has shit range>Complain about flying enemies always being out of reachIt's a very noticeable pattern
people whine way too much about bilewateri was expecting absolute cancer but it really isnt that bad
reminder that it's the gitgudfags that ruined the fanbase, despite them trying to convince everyone otherwise
I'm playing wanderer>You didn't beat the gameI know I know buuuuut I'm still playing wanderer
>>721673963I literally just walked into finding them all one day. Explore the map fagola
>>721674261Clawline + scuttle makes you untouchable in a number of fights.
>>721673798I like it. I respect people who go for the creepy bug appearance Don't know how I feel about the hair but it's just a personal opinion. She's probably gonna backhand someone like she did to that one flea for peeping though.
>>721673739This one, Bellhart, The Mist and Choral Chambers are all great
>>721674267Did you kill the frog?
>>721674258yepthis game's DLC updates better give us a way to restore pharloom instead of jamming us into a pre-ending state
>>721674261Challenge to give your next attack a 1.5x boostBack dash up walls
>>721674320I don't quite get what scuttle offers over dash, just the low profile and a bit of speed?
>>721674117People really don't remember how Path of Pain worked. It was multiple relatively lengthy endurance runs with no checkpoints, with a lot of dangerous pogoing, which warranted effectively infinite tries through all respawn points having an infinite soul generator. The closest this ever gets at all is on Mount Fay with the cold mechanic pressuring you to play fast, and yet it still didn't have you effectively stalling for the correct cycle by pogo-ing. Seriously, how does anyone not remember the fucking retracting spikes that you had to be in rhythm with to keep yourself sustained in the air? Silksong literally has nothing like this. Yet.
>>721673947The face kind of ended up looking semi ant like as I tried to figure out the proper headshape that would fit inside the mask given the eye slot placements. Spider like head does not really fit given that spiders have eyes that face straight forwards (along with the tiny eyes they also have), whereas Hornet's mask seems to have the eye slots sort of slightly on the side of the mask, and the mask in general seems to be bit pointed forwards rather than flat in terms of the face.>>721674137The mask maker on Mount Fay says that she already has a mask.
>>721674434>Act 4>Restore Pharloom>Explore Memories of cut zones to restore them to their former glory>Defeat Steel Assassins after they show up to kill whoever was fucking with the Void
>>721674547It's faster because you don't need to wait for animations to end
>>721674659>The mask maker on Mount Fay says that she already has a mask.He doesn't say it explicitly, He says she doesn't need a mask since she already has one (a face).
>>721674389Thanks. I just kind of found the idea of her having same sort of hair as her grandma cute, plus spiders actually do have hair (often full body covered in it) so it would kind of be fitting as well.I personally prefer fanart that, when depicting Hornet in more detail, actually guives her bug like appearance, over art that just gives her human anatomy.
>>721674547Immediate backwards dash can save time. Also it lets you freely climb a wall you come in contact with so it's good for arenas
>>721674659She was born with a mask(face) and thus doesn't need one made for her. There are other bugs that also fall into this category as well, since not every bug even needs a mask to begin with. These are really nice drawings though.
>>721673963>literally impossible to complete without looking them upI found all of the ones that are required, all the mask shards and all of the memory lockets on my own. I did have to look up one spool fragment because I somehow missed the one in the High Halls
>>721674434I wouldn't mind if they only restore Bellheart. Pavo needs to smile some more.
>>721674862>>721674776I guess I missunderstood the dialogue then.
>>721674261I think you have to mash instead of hold to extend Thread Storm
>>721673662https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6b-lWhn8pg>uploaded 5 years ago>haven't listened to it before releaseI love the 2nd half with the strings so much, but maybe people have already listened to it too much to care.
>got 100%>still missing some relics>still missing 9 enemy encounters and probably 50 enemy completionsDoes it go past 100% or is it just a fake 100% ?
>Fireborn talking on his stream about how the game would be too easy without double contact damage, and how it's too easy without the 2 damage spikes (he's modded it so it instantly kills you instead)This is such a brainrotted attitude and I'm bringing it up because Team Cherry feel for the same damn brainrot: these tards who play the game for 10,000 hours as their job need a huge reality check for what is and isn't easy - literally everything in the world is easy after you've dumped 10,000 hours into it. What, you're gonna push away 99.9% of your audience to satisfy the 0.1% of players who are streaming the game for a living? That's a fucking retarded insanity metric.
>>721671041>>721671486>>721671191does fast travel reset the mobs? like if i fail and fast travel back to Belhart
>>721675101I don't much care for what speedtrooners think and say about games, their perspective has always been warped and demented.
>>721674939You didn't necessarily, It's just interpretable both ways.One of her parents had a mask and another didn't, so it can literally go either way.
>>721674776Fucking bullshit and reaching. Almost all bugs where she was raised have masks. The idea of her having none but it just so happens that her body is a black shell and her face clearly looks like the masks we see everyone else wears reeks of cope to protect a fan theory.
>>721674939It's admittedly VERY vague, but I think between things like all the Vessels somehow having "masks" fresh out of the egg, things like Horkers having "masks" despite being barely sentient beasts, and Mask Makers just being odd as hell, it's still a lot of theory.I just think that more evidence points to Hornet not having a fake mask, but there's still always the chance that I'm just fucking wrong.
>>721675101>Caring what a troontuber says>But also defending the idea of making facetaking a possible strategyKill yourself unironically
>>721671640I was gonna say she killed the Green Prince because he wanted to die, but then Pinstress also wanted to die and Hornet spared her.
>>721675191You had better start caring because that's who the game's balanced around. The testers who have also dumped 10,000 hours into the game are the ones calling the shots on the balance.
>>721675213>Almost all bugs where she was raised have masksonly she is half pale being
>>721675213Hornet is half Wyrm. She takes after her father.
>>721674405havent killed any frog yet
>>721675101The spikes I don't really like doing 2 damage. But enemies doing double damage is mostly the right move. Like the balancing landed well for my level of skill, so I could never get too comfortable with my silk and fights often ended on low masks and low silk, but I got there in the end. If everything did half damage I would probably just cruise through it, and the fights wouldn't feel as tense as they did.
>>721675101The spikes thing is retarded ofc but the double contact damage makes perfect sense. If the contract damage was only 1 mask then you'd just keep bumping into the enemy on purpose to i-frame their double damage attacks. And then it would be just like HK, you just keep bumping and facetanking. They clearly don't want people playing like this.
>>721675283Facetanking is still possible. Shaman + Volt Fragment + Thread Storm = How Is The Boss Getting To Deal Damage Even Real, Just Press F and Die Second.
>>721675302She's still half bug you fuck. Raised among them, following their fucking standards and fashions. She wears a mask. Maybe she doesn't need it like the others do but she wears one as it is the culture she was raised in
>>721675213>her face clearly looks like the masks we see everyone else wearsHave you considered that masks might be made in the image of bugs that don't need masks made for them?
>>721675421Act 3 crests don't get to be under consideration for balance. It's like the rosary cannon, nobody uses it
>>721675067https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Completion_(Silksong)It's mostly tools, abilities, permanent upgrades etc. that count towards it.I assume you don't need to fill out lore items and enemy completions to make the challenge achievements not a boring slog, since two of them require 100%. I think it was the same in HK, if I'm not mistaken.
>>721675371Then you didn't beat Bilewater
>>721675486The only time the Shaman damage matters is for Act 3 bosses anyway thoughms't, you can use just volt fragment + thread storm to melt act 2 bosses without it.
Watched some youtuber speedtrannies like BlueSRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NCylbs1-ccand holy fuck, Shaman crest + Thread Storm + Volt Filament is strong afCan't wait for the Godhome DLC because I want to use this on act 1/2 bosses
>>721675461wtf do fashion trends have to do with whether she has a biological face like her father does?
For anyone who was still wondering, you 100% do not lose your Steel Soul run if you die during the memory fights (Karmelita, Nyleth, Khaan)You also don't lose your run if you die to First Sinner.From this I would extrapolate that it's also safe to lose against Act 2 Garmond (not Act 3) and Shakra's duel, but I didn't test those because I was already beyond that point.
>>721675461>following their fucking standards and fashions. Not all bugs wear masks.>Maybe she doesn't need it like the others do but she wears one as it is the culture she was raised inThen she'd have worn one of the Orb Weaver masks like the rest of her kin, or maybe she wouldn't have worn a mask at all considering that the bees don't wear masks at all and she was raised by them.
>clearing monsters before deliverysorry, I'll be taking that
>>721675461>>721675213Both the other anons have stated it isn't very clear cut and can be interpreted both ways, why are you autistically attached to this idea? You could have just said "I think it's otherwise"
>>721674272you did beat the game
>>721675405I did that a bunch even in the game desu, for add fights like Beastfly I'd oftentimes take a dip into the lava to avoid getting the 2 damage hip check because I had the bell, or I'd run into Trobbio to avoid an explosion. What the 2 damage contact means in practical terms is you're never allowed to be directly underneath Moorwing and reverse-pogo him because if he staggers and falls onto you it's over, and in turn that does nothing but drag out the fight by throttling how fast you're allowed to hit him. All it is now is stall and inconvenience you. Yes it makes the game harder but only because it's more annoying.
>>721673923Okay well White Lady did the same with Unn's place. But Hornet still respects her and everything, as I said
>>721675101>the game would be too easy without double contact damageTrue>How it's too easy without the 2 damage spikesTrue>(he's modded it so it instantly kills you instead)That one's too far, but would make for a funny optional setting
>>721675101speedtrannies and modtrannies are irrelevanti remember some guy was on here saying first sinner was a shit boss because it wasn't over the top autistic hard like some shitty modded version he posted wascringest shit in the world
>>721675687GRINDLE YOU WHORE
>>721675687>did the ration delivery without double jump through the blasted steps>made it with barely any time left after optimizing the route and a bunch of tries >need double jump for the maggotsWhere was the clown wig when I needed it.
>>721674261Beast pogo + insta dash lets you dash through enemies and bosses with iframes
>>721675101Have you noticed every game with a community has guy named fireborn?
>>721675801wtf dude, Moorwing does a long ass animation before falling down, how slow are your reflexes, I'm almost 40 and had no issue
>>721676016not really nothe only fireborn i know is the one that draws pokemon porn
I heard there's a way to find stuff that you missed, like fleas or tools, in act 3is that real?
Is there a puzzle behind those two similar lore tablets you can find in Deep Docks and Greymoor? The ones about bell rings and harvests, they list various numbers which has me thinking you have to do something in a certain sequence
Fuckin hell, it took me ages to find this pollip heart. I was literally about to ask where the last one was.
>>721676215Yes
>7 years>3 guys>assuming 8 hour work daysSilksong had ~44k work hours put into it
>>721676215There's a NPC you can find during the second act that shows you where fleas are for a price
Is it true there's no NG+?An NG+ that lets you keep crests and tools, replacing all these drops with heavy rosary strings or beast shards, and buffing enemy health a bit across the boardIt's a no brainer and I'm shocked it isn't in
>>721675681>Not all bugs wear masks.A majority of the bugs of Hallownest do. And Herrahs people do. Even the fucking Midwife wears one and she isn't even a recognizable bug.>Then she'd have worn one of the Orb Weaver masks like the rest of her kin, She wears one styled on the head dress of her mother who herself is different from the other weavers in pretty much every way but that is another kettle of fish. And the bees are like the Skarrs. They're a separate culture that don't follow it for one reason or another and are apart and even aggressive to non members. The masks have an important value that are common across multiple civilizations but not to all bug kind and everything points to the fact that Hornet would follow these conventions.
>>721676035If it's not Moorwing it's always something else, Karmelita can randomly take a step forward at anytime to punish you for trying to be too aggressive with her. Lost Lace can and will spawn directly underneath you if you ever move Hornet in neutral. The list goes on. The mechanic ultimately means "you're not allowed to move here here and here" and "you're not allowed to attack here here and here." I put enough hours into HK to know when they're making it harder by cucking you, and I don't appreciate it. A lot of this stuff I feel could be bindings they'd let you install on the campaign itself intsead of godhome, like removing Kuro's Charm in Sekiro, rather than enforce Cripple Mode on you by default.
>>721676120>still posting slop made by trannies
>>721676327>>assuming 8 hour work days
>>721676327>assuming 8 hour work days
>>721676365There was no NG+ in HK either, why did you skip the first game anon?
>>721676241Pretty sure it's just the insight into the wagie life and the purpose of the area to the kingdom.
>>721676414For Lost Lace literally just stop moving when she disappears, it's that simple. Platformers like this are all about learning spacing, if there was no contact damage it would be very easy and boring, like Ender Magnolia
>If you clawline the exploding drones in the underworks, Hornet drop kick ricochets them away and its safewtf
>>721676365Honestly I would just like to play again with access to all the crests. Shaman has no time to shine Oh. Also let me keep the recall to bell beast. That being tied to act 3 was so fucking retarded
>>721676671don't they fly away if you smack them with anything, and clawline is just 2 quick hits in succession.
>>721676365Of all games, Silksong would be the game where NG+ would be the most fun. It's such a huge game, working to regain everything you earned is just a pain. I refuse to replay the game from the start because you don't start with the sprint.
>>721676496I didn't, but I think to a point it's less relevant to that game, because the main combat pickups are only spells, which don't really change how you play the combatWhereas in Silksong the crests change your moves and give new playstylesIf I want to play with the Witch crest, I can't use it until I complete its quest, so I don't get to use it on all the eaerlier bosses and enemiesTools are similarSo I think this game would benefit a lot from an NG+ that let you keep those two things, like I saidTbqh I could just cheat engine or mod or whatever any crest I want at the start of NG, but eh
>>721676412I'm not sure if you're aware anon, but the masks aren't just an aesthetic choice. They influence your personality and possibly even involve giving sentience. Check how breaking the mask maker's mask completely changes his personality.The mask maker from HK says the masks are for bugs that have faces, if you have a face, they don't want to make a mask for you.
>>721673894confirmed soulless pleb
>>721676653>For Lost Lace literally just stop movingYeah, that's the problem, its like Grimm but you're not allowed to try chasing him between teleports so you're stuck standing around doing nothing. 1 contact damage on lost lace would make this an acceptable risk but 2 contact damage is a hard "you're not allowed" sign, and that's just making the fight less engaging. In almost all cases that's all the 2 contact damage mechanic amounts to.
>>721676412>A majority of the bugs of Hallownest do.Hornet has made it very clear she doesn't care about what the majority wants, and Herrah directly encourages her to go against the grain as seen in the Red Memory, even going as far as to tell her to ignore the wants of the other Weavers.>And the bees are like the Skarrs. They're a separate culture that don't follow it for one reason or another and are apart and even aggressive to non members.And yet Hornet was raised by them and their queen as one of their own due to Herrah being put to sleep soon after Hornet was born. There is literally no reason to assume that Hornet would ever bother wearing a mask considering that even if she did care about following cultural conventions she'd certainly follow the conventions of the society that raised her and follow the pragmatic option of not bothering with one at all.Hornet goes against the grain, and even if she didn't, all signs point to her not wearing a mask.
>>721673450>they/themHoly shit it's all chronic dilators.
>>721676814They'll add a Godhome/boss rush DLC eventually and you'll be able to use everything against everything, but NG+ is not in the spirit of this series, for one thing it's very hard to scale enemy damage with this mask system, and there would be too many potential skips if the player had everything from the beginning, just too much work and the fandom prefers doing fresh runs anyway, hope this helps
>>721676958nah it's most likely a vaguely androgynous broad
The ending needed a proper epilogue, or at least a cutscene of Hornet and Lace making it back to Bellheart and being welcomed by all the NPCs. It feels weird you don't get to talk to any of them post ending when the entire 3rd act is about saving them.
>>721677041So, a freak.
>>721677078Because the game isn't finished, we know a DLC is coming, and it's probably an Act 4 of sorts.
>>721677078I mean hollow knight did the same thing but to be honest ghost imprisoned or gone in every ending
>>721674261Charged needle attacks instantly destroy the otherwise invincible fire lanterns in Wisp Thicket
>>721673798>>721674659I read a theory I liked (but don't necessarily believe) that the horns on her mask contain and conceal her Pale Being halo-spike-things
>>721669379
>>721677197>otherwise invincibleI kill them in 3 hits though?
>>721676990>the fandomYou're a fag, and wrong. Nobody's saying to keep your masks and silk spools, people just want to have the crests from the beginning so they can do dedicated runs for each. And if I were in charge, sprint would be unlocked without air dashing, and you'd unlock the air dash by going to where sprint would be.
Watched LobosJr's VODs for a bit (god, he sucks at this) and he raised a very interesting lore question.Why is the abyss lined with snail shells? I never really thought about it but once he said it it was very obvious. It's the same exact shape as on the Shaman crest etc.
>ELEVEN
>>721670925Go Exhaust Organ route, you'll get it first try easy.
>>721677302Cause snails are down with the devil.
>>721675101It needs to be said.Difficulty junkies are NPCs, they have no concept of fun, or what makes a videogame fun, they just see other people and imitate, they think fun comes from completing tasks like a checkmark, and so they get addicted to the cycle of task completion, and the more retries a game takes from you, the better, they are totally hollow NPCs with no thought of their own that like to repeat the same task ad nauseum.
>>721677302Snails are not to be trusted.
>>721677302Ancient Snailiens built the void.
I just think they're neat
>>721677078BOTW ended just like this, you save Zelda, she smiles at you, roll creditsNo need to go full Persona 5 where you have an hour long interactive cutscene where you walk over to each semi notable character that appeared in the game and say your goodbyes lmao
>>721677191The difference is that Ghost doesn't directly talk with any of the NPC's, and most of them wrap up their quests on their own. They're not explicitly waiting on you to save them with their fates directly tied to the ending like they are in Silksong. The only character Ghost forms a real bond with is Hornet, and the game DOES show what happens to her in almost every ending.
>>721677448Would Silksong still be fun to you if all enemies and hazards did zero damage?
>>721670925You can use flea brew to dash through the lo ger segments, like the transition from the stagway to shellwood or entering blasted steps.If enemies are really fucking you over, pre clear them, thought keep in mind you can clawline to skip them.You are using the double jump, right?
>>721677347yeah these guys and the small prisoners in the Slab are a bit of a grind
>>721677481
>>721677448>Difficulty junkiesPeople will just put words together and pretend they mean something
>>721677486I don't want that. I just want a post game world state. Act 3 would be a rather bleak world state for all of the dlc's, and it would go against the urgency of the plot
>>721677536I don't know. Do you have fun watching movies where there is no taking damage mechanic?
>>721677536reverse nirvana fallacy
>>721677486>No need to go full Persona 5 where you have an hour long interactive cutscene where you walk over to each semi notable character that appeared in the game and say your goodbyes lmaoWe don't need that, they could have just done a quick cut to major characters/towns reacting to the Abyss influence receding like they do with Hornet in the Godhome ending.
>>721677481>red>horned>has a pokey weapon>BEAST crest>steals soul from beings she tortures>fulfills wishes (for a price)>kills godis this game satanic
>>721676412Spooder masks are kinda weird. Do we even know if Herrah has a mask?Judging by the First Sinner cutscene, Weavers are uplifted from feral spiders that all look like they have a mask, but you can see she has a cracked mask during the transition, so idk, do normal weavers even have a mask, or is the globe just their face?
>>721670925Did it 3rd try without pre-clearing mobs. Only watched a a YT video before hand, and didn't follow his route anyway because he missed the spa, I just borrowed his brew+anklets ideaAm I a gaming god? Or is this game just a tourist magnet?
>>721675521the fight is cancer but there's a bench nearby atleast so it isn't that enraging
>>721677536NTA but the only thing I really want is a mod that lets you down-pogo with Hunter. If Hunter worked like this>Down+attack = straight downwards pogo>Down + A/D+attack = diagonal pogoThe diagonal pogo is pretty slick in niche circumstances like giving Karmelita and Unravelled backshots when they try parrying you from the front, but when the diagonal pogo feels bad it feels REALLY bad and makes me feel like I'm working with only 75% of a complete moveset. It would unironically be among the slickest movement in the genre if they did this. TC's buffed Hunter's damage twice now but it'll never be popular until they do something like this anyway because the diagonal pogo is a huge filter regardless of damage.
>>721677598You can see the watermark in the corner but go off
>>721669714I just got to Nameless Village today and I thought it was actually one of the easiest "challenges" in the game. I did the whole thing in 1/4th the time it took me to beat Karmelita. /v/ told me it was going to be Path of Pain 2.0. It wasn't even as hard as White Palace.
>>721677703>I don't know.That's retarded.>Do you have fun watching movies where there is no taking damage mechanic?Yes, because I don't play movies, I watch them. We're talking about games, games that you play instead of just watch. Do you understand that as a concept? Playing a game instead of watching someone else play it?
>>721677889They're all freaks anyway.
>>721677486>BOTW ended just like this, you save Zelda, she smiles at you, roll creditsThat was a let down too.
>>721677685Sorry broski, but Hornet's going back home. She says as much when talking with ShermaPOPE.
>>721677821Widow and Herrah show that Weavers have regular sized heads under their masks.
>>721677876I adapted fine to the diagonal pogo, and I get why people don't work well with it, but it really annoys me seeing how everyone just defaults to Wanderer purely because of the fast downward pogo and NEVER switch off. It's Silksong's createst misstep really, Reaper should have been the crest to swap to if you wanted an easy down slash.
>>721672565Nigga shaman has like 3x/4x the range of wanderer and the single best pogo in the game. You attack slower but have legit the best range to able to land hits you wouldn't be able to otherwise/be far more safe doing so. The dash attack is weak but it is easy to just dash, let go, then attack with your fuck huge normal slash. The only outright bad part of shaman is the bind, you really need just injector band to make it usableSwear to God wanderer turned so many niggas into retarded apes.
>>721678009yeah but we want to know what happens to Lace, does she follow Hornet or stay to fix the mess her mom created
Reaper Crest is the overall best crest in the game. Search your hearts, you know it to be true.
>>721677821>do normal weavers even have a mask, or is the globe just their face?Widow is explicitly mentioned to have had her mask forcefully removed so yeah they do come off. The round one is just sort of their tribal traditionHerrah is weird no matter what way you look at it. In the memory and in HK as a dreamer she just looks fucking off but I guess she was just born different Even the barely sentient animals in this world have a desire to cover their face like the drape bats or all the little mossgrubs. Those mask makers as as busy as Santa's elves handing them all out. So if figure that yes, the sinner cutscene shows her with a broken mask and that is carried over when she's ascended a couple of evolutionary steps.
>>721677832why did you need to borrow the idea of using the two items that augment speed?
>>721678048Thing is, Widow is referred to as quarter Weaver, and Herrah obviously looks different from normal weavers. She could just be fat, but idk. There's also the face they call her a beast.
>>721678048Widow is technically a quarterbreed Weaver, but that's probably a safe assumption to make.
>>721678086>does she follow Hornet or stay to fix the mess her mom createdShe has to follow or she dies, she needs to be fed silk to live.
>>721678009Why WOULD Hornet want to go back at this point? Hallownest is probably even more of a ruin at this point given how much time has passed. The White Lady may still be around though.
>>721678129Hornet is half weaver, so Herrah must be full
fuck flea dodge
>>721678206Why wouldn't bugs reinhabit it. It's also assumed the hollow knight is still there altho it's mostly speculation.
>>721678009Not if there's work still to be done. Whatever new content the dlc adds would be enough reason for her to stick around for now
>>721672339That sounds like a stupid idea. Fuck you.
What gives us the impression a lot of times has passed since HK?
>>721678065I tried Reaper but I hated the rest of its non-pogo moveset to I switched back to Hunter. I didn't find Wanderer until after I got the double jump so I actually stuck with Hunter for most of the game to keep the muscle memory I had just spent so long learning. But there were undoubtedly times where I said "fuck this shit it's Wanderer time, it's not worth it." I feel that even if you gave Hunter a down-pogo, Wanderer and Reaper would still be good. Wanderer would still have more consistently-high damage and a faster swing speed versus Hunter's "dude just don't get hit bro" gimmick, and with Reaper you can chain silk arts retardedly fast by picking up the shinies. And like I said, there are times where you want the diagonal pogo, but I can't compromise on my gut feeling that it's pretty clunky and restrictive exactly when you need it most.
>>721678204what if Hornet says no fuck off you're on your own?I mean, Hornet was ready to kill her, I doubt she has any warm feelings towards Lace, why the fuck would she babysit her for the rest of their eternal lives?
>>721678206>Why WOULD Hornet want to go back at this point?Even if it's ruined, it's still her home. I just think it would be weird for Hornet to just up and leave while everyone is still suffering because of her actions.
Wait a bloody second>GMS is the mother of all Weavers and also Lace>Hornet is half weaverLace is Hornets aunt
>>721678206Why does she still call herself daughter of Hallownest so boldly? Why had she stayed there after all this time before she was captured? That's just her home, dude.
>>721678259I wonder then if Herrah isn't wearing a mask then, and that's just how they look like under the globes. There's also the Midwife's face I guess.
>>721678338Fine then. Go hunt down one craw at a time for your silly journal then.
>>721678409Why the fuck could Lace just project a force ghost for One scene. Why did they never have her do this elsewhere in any capacity.
>>721678324She passed the torch to people like the pinstress and sherma
>>721678293Because Hornet's dialogue does nothing to indicate there's anything other than a ruin waiting for her. It's seeing Lace doing basically the same thing as her that convinces her that it's a waste.
>>721677594>only 1 spawnsfucking hell
>>721678556>dlc adds some lifeblood threat/steel assassins/whatever>clearly Sherma can handle thisYou didn't think that one through did you
>>721678557It does nothing to indicate that it is still in ruin either.
>>721670925This is the way I took, Sinner's Road is easier apparently
>>721678550her sister does the same in the mist area, it's not a stretch that she can do it too.
Remember to kiss your bug wife
>>721678089Explain why.
>>721678409I think it's in the Hunter's journal, Hornet says something like "this one, she won't lose", so she is expressing a desire to save her. Would be a bit weird to save her from the void, just to then leave her to die of starvation lol. I can see them try to find a solution so she can live, hell maybe that's what Act 4 is about.
>>721678651>implying Sherma's pure charisma and raw, untainted hope wouldn't win over the invadersI believe in that boy
>>721678409Hornet clearly does pity Lace to some extent, and likely views her troubled and artificial existence in a similar light to the Vessels. I can't see Hornet just abandoning Lace, but I also can't see Hornet particularly enjoying her company either.
>>721678613That was the one guy missing in my journal too outside the grubs.
>>721678694The banshees? I thought those were just animated medical waste like the unraveled given she's pumping out the smoke of the crematoriums
>>721678651Hornet's just gonna get kidnapped to the city of steel at this point
Has anyone put out a compilation of the essential/most interesting Needolin dialogues yet? I cannot be fucked to try using it during fights and getting this info myself.
>>721678449you repeat this every thread
>>721678390Hunter has the best overall moveset when you factor its sprint attack, it's what allows you to get quick hits and immediately readjust. If you're up against particularly tall enemies too you can sprint attack, and then almost immediately normal attack in the air to get 2 hits in extremely quickly. The issue I think is just that people still play like it's Hollow Knight, even with the revised moveset. Nobody is dashing to close distance, they're dashing to make distance. Nobody's pogoing to reposition, they're pogoing to get free hits. Hunter just works as the crest meant for being stylish and effective, but the game is too punishing for players to actually want to try that playstyle.
>>721678550Hornet was crazy
>>721678550I think that was Hornet talking to herself
>>721678816It would be cool if the city of steel was a moving city, so it just plants itself on the surface of pharloom and extends the map upwards.
>>721678089That gay upwards overhead swing really holds it back. It's shorter than most others too, trade off for the great regular attack range I guess. I only ever use it instead of Wanderer when I need another blue slot or for some specific platforming.
>>721678826Must be confusing me with someone else because I haven't touched the threads so far because I just finished the game
>>721678734But she soft though
I'm shocked at just how much I liked Hornet as a protagonist. For Team Cherry's next game would you want them to make a new protagonist or use her again?
Does regular Thread Storm kill muckmaggots or did I just get lucky because I was using Shaman/had Volt Filament on?
>>721678821I wouldn't say Phantom's dialogue is essential but her singing voice is great
>>721668178>that mouthI am vomit. The "artist" should be shot.
>>721678717>Hornet stuffs her tongue down your throathot
>>721678948>I haven't touched the threads so far because I just finished the gameBased. But yeah, you aren't the first to notice it.
>>721678972So true AGPsis
>>721678805the journal entry confirms they are projections, and they disappear after you defeat phantom.
>>721678983>For Team Cherry's next game would you want them to make a new protagonist or use her again?Definitely new. Hell I would like something thats less one pale being is the reason everything is going to shit for a change. Just give us a fucking snail protagonist and let's go balls deep right to Void without any of this pussyfooting around.
>>721678849You can also immediately down attack after the dash attack against smaller enemies since it perfectly positions you to hit
What happens if I skip Last Judge and go through Organ? I assume needed parts of the Citadel are inaccesible without killing Judge yes?Can act 2 start another way?
>>721678683Wow, that's a bad route, should've used the flowers at 0:09, that's a much easier climb and you save time. And then the spa shortcut in the Citadel to skip almost all enemies and again save time.
>>721678972Soft but not fluffy. We also know how much Hornet dislikes soft things that have bad tempers or prickly exteriors.
>>721678928>fuck-huge steel megacity three-times the size of Pharloom marches in and literally crushes it, killing everyone inside the Citadel (including Sherma).I can fuck with it.
>>721678720>Available early>Wide pogo lets you hit things all the other crests fail to, including pogoing up spikes on the walls in places like Mount Fay>Healing passive lets you generate an absurd amount of silk>Really wide hitboxes on everything>Best set of of tool slots of any crest>Only gets more viable as the game progresses since late game bosses have fewer openings for the faster crests to exploit leaving Reaper with the same DPS as something like Wanderer.
>>721678449They're not related! Fuck sake!
>>721678932You don't use your Up-air when you want to hit something above/in front of you, you use your Neutral-air.
>>721679120You can get the regular ending without ever killing Last Judge, but you'll need to kill it for Act 3 because the fleas have to be moved through that area at some point.
>>721679109Hollow Knight: Emissary of the Void(You) are the one bringing ruin to a kingdom
>>721678651>>clearly Sherma can handle thisHe's got the Cogwork sentinel as his #2, the love of the people and a great singing voice. I'm sure he can manage just fine.
>>721670925Just go Exhaust Organ route.
>>721678849That's because the Wanderer playstyle of "dude just hit and pogo and hit and pogo and " is way better at crowd control than Hunter's hit and run gimmick, and crowd fights are the hardest part in the game because you've got no iframes. When it's one on one you can use whatever you think is most fun but when tyou're getting ganked you need all the help you can get. Your silk arts and tools are both very expensive. Having a down pogo makes encounters like Coral Tower and Court of Crows so much easier it's not even funny. TLDR give me both a down pogo and diagonal pogo on Hunter and watch me go crazy. I want to be able to go cuhrazy more than I want the game to be harder.
>>721679261Hollow Knight Fuck Around and Find Out Edition. That would honestly be pretty badass.
>>721679126Not him but this shows you don't need an optimized route.
>>721678495Herrah was just built different, she wasn't called the Beast for her sick string solos, the corpse on the chapel of the beast looks similar to her so she's just a different spider also made weaver but full weaver nonetheless
>>721679160I really don't like how fragile bugs look. Those antennae look like they would break at the slightest touch. I'd be really afraid to have a bug as a pet.I guess I have a spider pet, it sleeps safely in the corner near the window and kills flies and mosquitoes, but I feel like it would die if I touched it
>>721679356Shaman is probably better for crowd control
>>721679463Bugs are not nearly as fragile as you think.
>>721678717Why spider girls like this?
>>721678449It's OK, there is nothing wrong with gay incest since there is no chance of imbred babies
>>721679443>the corpse on the chapel of the beast looks similar to her so she's just a different spider also made weaver but full weaver nonethelessThat's actually a really neat idea. I just thought she was fat from being the queen.
>>721679463Well to take your friendly spider as an example, they lose limbs all the time and just regrow new ones every time they moult
>>721678495>>721679443They show unmasked Herrah in a certain act 3 event. But it's an early childhood memory and Hornet can't remember her face so it's blurred.
>>721678983I think a trilogy with a different protagonist each time feels right. You could have Hornet appear as an NPC, but otherwise, another new kingdom with a completely new protagonist would give them total creative liberty.
>>721679638I'm pretty sure she's wearing a full body weaver-red cloak with a mask in that memory.
>>721679551Bugs are very silly creatures
>>721679638It kind of looks like her normal face/mask but I think I can make out a mouth, so maybe not.
>>721679747Did he died?
>>721679947He's fine
>>721676327>working as a video game dev>working 8 hour a daychoose one and only one
>>721679356No crest on its own is good for crowd control. Skills are for crowd control, but you're right that Wanderer does let you just burst down a particular problem enemy if that's really what you care about. I never really felt a need to prioritise certain enemies though.
>>721680041imo thread storm is underrated for crowd control. It cancels out most projectiles and you can mash it to get more damage out. It is by far one of the best sources of damage and aoe in the game, it's just that game feels heavily more focused on healing/tool usage when you fuck up
>>721679126Just the route I knew best, I barely visited the spa once I found it I think but I was always farming in those corridors, it does show time isn't as big a factor as people might think if I can make it there with almost half remaining
>>721680041Wanderer also has the best silk generation because of attack speed which means more spell useIt's the same issue the original game had with quick slash, attack speed is way too powerful
>TC had a full sprite set for nude Hornet without weapons>Monk ants as a faction exist>No option to fight Needleless outside dungeon segmentwhy?
>>721680182Thread Storm is just the most powerful spell if you have a large enough window. The fact you can extend its duration by mashing the button, and it doesn't cost more is disgustingly powerful. It let me first try Sister Splinter on my first playthrough because it just wiped her minions instantly while topping several strikes worth of damage on her.
>>721680186Your webm also shows that taking a hit isn't always a big deal either, cause you deliberately run into a wall at the end and it barely loses any time because the 4th pip on the rasher was already halfway gone
>>721680257There should have been colosseum where you have a trial without weapons or maybe a crest where you don't use it.
>>721678351The lack of name mentioning of the first game's kingdom.
>>721679747I didn't recognise any of the dialogue (it's been years) but I understood the reference after realising the pause was so long lol
>>721680373>deliberatelyY-yeah I did but I have accidentally done it running into the grate at the entrance before
>>721680365It's insane and honestly out damages most tools. Shaman thread storm is like the equivalent of 12 pin hits I think, and normally it's like 6-8. Just an absurd silk skill
>>721680508Doesn't Hallownest get mentioned? Pretty sure it's also referred to as the White Wyrm's Kingdom.
>>721679747Holy fucking kino
60 hours in and still in act 2, i dont want the ride to end
>The fleas in flea dodge are completely randomWHAT WERE THEY THINKING
>>721680658Those guys became SO much easier for me to deal with when I realized the mace doesn't have an active hitbox while they hold it straight up and charge it
>>721680658>He needed help and an OP weaponembarrassing
>>721680865What do you get for topping all three leader boards? The other two I've done already but there's no fucking way I'm beating flea juggle.
>>721680749I'm glad I'm not the only one who's taking his sweet time, I just reached 85 hours and I've still got Verdania to explore plus the true final boss
>>721680963Pale Oil and a bunch of rosaries (equip the magnet tool before you finish the final game)
>>721680963pale oil
>>721680963>What do you get for topping all three leader boards?If you're talking about the default high scores you get a pale oil as a reward plus some cash
>>721680937>just risk your steel soul run bronahfuck that gauntlet
>>721681047>>721681063FUCK. I guess I need to just get good at flea juggle then...
>>721674272wanderer fucking sucks, you get NO RANGE, you LOSE YOUR POGO, and bind is SHIT, its literally objectively worse than hunter, and even worser than fucking repaer
>>721680749>>721680987God damn I thought I was taking my time ending with like 62 hours
>>721680963Juggle is the easiest one although Bounce isn't much harder
>>721680186hag flashing innocent boy while he bathes
>>721681183>Juggle with wandererGenuine madman
>next game is parryslop with Lace as MC>multiple parry options that result in big counters>can equip multiple silk skills a la Shaman>even bigger mobility, flips and shit>Hornet is only in a mentor role, story is about Lace finding herself, the meaning of her existence etcwould you rike it?
>>721681156I recommend staying on the ground for Flea Juggle unless it's the last hit, hitting left or right instead of up to reposition the fleas also helps
>>721681167>you LOSE YOUR POGOHuh?
>>721681183Flea Bounce was the easiest one for me I think it took me like two tries to clear it, I even beat Seth's score on my first attempt
>>721681183>slashing upif you slash sideways you can 100% control the direction of the fleas and it becomes super easy since after the initial hits on each wave, you just stand there barely needing to move or react
>>721676671idk i just hit them 3 times before they explode and the charge flies off into the wall
>>721681156Got it on my fifth try. Jumping is a noob trap. Stay on the ground and use the shaman crest. Swing upwards sooner than you think you might need to, EZ PZ.
>>721681256Isn't it the best? Although I've seen people say Shaman and Reaper are also good I never felt the need to change to find out, what is the absolute worst one to do it with I wonder, don't really know the difference in up attacks>>721681480I feel that'd require more brainpower than just standing underneath, I've also seen people complain that they can go off the stage and ruin everything which they don't appear to do just hitting up
>>721681256I did the same and it's actually easier because Wanderer's attack comes out so quickly, no lag to account for
>>721681320>story is about Lace finding herself, the meaning of her existence etcNo. Just give me more grimdark post-apocalyptic bug fantasy and don't bother with the introspective stuff.
>>721681612>>721681679I used shaman because it's base attack and pogo are the size of an entire country
>>721681183People have trouble with juggle because they don't know you can control the direction in which fleas bounce back up.
>>721681612>I've also seen people complain that they can go off the stage and ruin everything which they don't appear to do just hitting upMight be an issue with Wanderer, true. With hunter you always have enough range to hit them. There's actually an invisible wall for the fleas just beyond the edge so when you hit them that far they lose all horizontal momentum and drop conveniently in range.>shamanHaven't tried because I was too used to hunter>reapertoo slow for later rounds and the slash alternates between up down, so it's annoying for consistency
>>721681320>story is about Lace finding herself, the meaning of her existence etcNot gonna lie, I'm like 99% sure Lace if left to her own devices eventually evolves into Dante but with a silk vagina.
>>721681696>don't bother with the introspective stuffWell, Silksong had a fuckton of this though? So many NPC's and bosses are female, the game is clearly about exploring femininity and how Hornet deals with all these issues and eventually gets a fucking stepkid lmao
>>721680865Flea Dodge is easier when you remember that most of them are noisemakers who were never going to hit you anyway. Unlock your peripheral vision and pick your targets.
>>721681825>Next game TC just says fuck it and attempts a 3d character action hollow knight Might go hard
>>721680865The thing that's irritating me more is how completely unreliable Hornet's ledge grab is.
>>721678717my peanits!! hard!!
>>721681987>3D Zote game with Spanish banjos and mariachi musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKHxbOg19sI want it.
>>721681825>I'm like 99% sure Lace if left to her own devices eventually evolves into DanteNot Bayonetta? The hair/silk special moves are right there man.
>>721681864It's the least interesting thing about the game for me. I appreciated the story of the Hollow Knight in the first game, and even with a silent protagonist and a single appearance by the big man himself at the end, that game had a bigger emotional payoff by the end than Silksong has.>the game is clearly about exploring femininity and how Hornet deals with all these issuesCool, I paid absolutely no attention to any of that.
>>721682261Meant in terms of personality, really. Might still be a brat and a psycho now, but for some reason I can really see her enjoying freedom and small creature comforts a lot now that she has the opportunity to do so.
>all the good story bits are hidden behind random high jumps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_-AMaKV--o
anything missible i should go lookup how to do before pushing forward to act 3?
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET THIS FLEA
>>721682720Any gauntlet or boss you don't do in act 2 becomes voided in act 3.
>>721682720Shakira fight
>>721682720Shakra fight, twisted child ending.
haha
>>721682720Shakra duel outside BellhartGarmond duel (but it can only be triggered before High Halls, so if you already fucked up it's ogre)
>>721682750
remove flea dodge from the game and replace it with kirby's tilt and roll
>>721665721
>>721682816You mean the gauntlet before getting the Conductor melody? I dueled Garmond right after that. No one showed up to help so I ended up soloing that. I didn't trigger the mission where Jubilana goes missing again so that might be the cutoff. Disappointed the game doesn't let you cut his life support off.
>>721682606oh damn I didn't know about that room above Styx
>>721682981Reminds me of Toy Story 2, specifically the PS1 version, where you can beat it without the rocket boots by just staying directly in front of RC so he keeps bumping into you over and over and never passes you.
>>721679256So I can be in Act 1 for the whole game lol?
>>721667027WHERE'S THAT DRAWFAG? WHERE IS HE?BECAUSE NOW I REALLY FUCKING DID IT.THE SHEER RAGE FROM BEING DENIED MY RIGHTFUL SPIDER PUSSY MADE ME DO THIS FIGHT AGAIN.NO TOOLS.NO SILK SKILLS.MASK UNBROKEN.I BEAT THE GAME.I believe I'm owed dues. No backing out, no genie tricks, no bizaroo world, or any of that. Or forever be Shit-eater Aerd, I recognize your artstyle and know the threads you frequent.To reiterate:>Hornet, the protagonist of Silksong HERSELF is lifting up her skirt>She is drawn on-model stylistically consistent with the game, and is cute>She's not a loli or overweight or any bizarre body type>She's lifting her skirt to present her own Vagina>Her mons pubis has nice normal pubic hair>Hornet is happy to show this off>Hornet isn't obscured by anything, made tiny, blurry, shown at a retard angle etc. We can see her from the front>These are not separated elements, but part of a cohesive wholeBe a man, and pay up.
>>721681864Exactly. One game like that is enough. Just give me comfy exploration, dead kingdom or not
>>721683115Last Judge is an optional boss.
>>721683031>You mean the gauntlet before getting the Conductor melody? I dueled Garmond right after thatAh, so the cut-off point is collecting all 3 melodies then. Thanks anon.Basically, once Garmond & Zaza move to a tent at Songclave, they can't be dueled anymore.>spoilerWait for act 3.
>>721683115No the other way puts you in Act 2 as well, it even has a different cutscene
I killed the mechanical dancers and I am burnt out
>>721683230Oooooooh neat.
>>721683115No. Even by skipping both intended ways into the citadel, you'll still wind up in act 2 before you can beat the game.
>>721682981>Sprintmaster never ONCE complains about you beating him this wayHe's such a good sport
>>721683145Not sure if this is cringe or based, so I'm just going to say based.
Woah guys check it out: did you know if you just keep attacking the scissor guys while their scissors are open they just keep blocking? Neat
>>721683145Nothing like the power of spite
>>721683479>act 1What are you doing in a thread full of end game spoilers? Fuck off.
>>721682791i got the witches crest is that all that needs to be done?
>That phase in Punished Trobbio's fight where he just starts spamming explosions everywhereHoly shit this is aids
god damn it, I can't get another wardenfly to spawn
>>721683648You need to kill GMS while still infected with the parasite for twisted child ending, rip
>>721683757Are you swatting the bombs back? I just stand in a corner and hit the nearest bomb to make some space for myself.
>enjoying time with flea bros>silk bitch from hell starts screaming and ruining the mood
After much seething about certain parts, this game really is top 10, maybe top 5 best games ever made.
>>721683931I didn't know you could do that, but I beat him anyway spamming tacks.
I love First Sinner. Boss rush DLC when??https://litter.catbox.moe/qnstu9.mp4
>>721684006>Literally being melted by liquid soul-eating darkness that you have to constantly fight a losing battle against >Have to keep screaming at your grandkid to stop fucking around at the carnival and come pick up your shitty daughter
>>721684432I hope we get it soon, but knowing Team Cherry it'll be the last dlc they add. Same as HK.
I only just now discovered you can just hit the ghosts in the mists. I assumed that because they're ghosts they're invincible and I never even tried...
>>721684432I hope it's not like godhome, this game is really not built for endurance runsThrow the weaker bosses in a bloody palace arena with normal enemies, and give the rest proper upgraded variants that you can fight individually
Can someone explain what exactly happened lorewise with GM Silk, the Weavers, and the Citadel? I vaguely get that they all ended up betraying each other at different points but but not exactly how and why.
I'm in act 3 almost done farming the hearts for the final boss and apparently I'm missing a few yellow/blue charms and like 3 red weapons. I'm pretty sure I cleared out the entire map, I wonder if what I missed was something crucial. It wasn't the cogflies since apparently they're OP, but I didn't really use those.
>>721665721I can't stop hearing the Bellhart theme on a loop is so kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG7luoYtb9Y
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>>721684714did you find all the fleas?
Why do we hate Beast Crest, again?
>>721684714There are several tools hidden in places you might overlook, and some shit you can backtrack to with ascent that practically nobody is going to know about without looking upThey're mostly not a big deal
>>721675284Tbf, Pinstress only wanted to die cause she thought it was the end of the world and she wanted to go out with a fight, but Hornet knows she can save the kingdom and everyone's lives, Green Prince wanted to die no matter what, even when the world wasn't ending
>>721684707I think you made him mad lmao.
>>721684909too high skill for mei'll ungabunga with wanderer instead
>>721684783>>721684857>>721684954>>721685028>Spamming a thread until you get banned because you're too autistic to understand second order consequencesWhat I don't get is how people like this think ruining threads they claim to have been invested in helps anything in any way
>upper bilewater benchepic xdddI knew something gay would happen but like, is it seriously just that one bench at the bottom, then?
>>721684707Granny Silk elevates some bugs into being weavers, similarly to what the Pale King did in Hallownest. She convinces them they're gods.With her weaver army in tow, she conquers all the surrounding lands and destroys them to build the Citadel. She establishes a slave culture where the locals are enthralled both physically and spiritually (via a fake religion) and worship the weavers as gods.For a time, the weavers live as the demigod rulers of this system. But they eventually find out they aren't literally gods. Presumably once they realize they can't actually control time and whatever the fuck other divine powers they were supposed to have.In revenge, the weavers put Granny in an enchanted eternal sleep. They convert the Citadel into a gigantic city-sized musical instrument to keep the lullaby going, and turn the slave religion into being one where the bugs sing an eternal chorus (literally) to keep her asleep.The weavers leave a skeleton crew to ensure the machinery keeps running, but otherwise bounce. The surrounding bugs take over.Because Granny is asleep and no longer supplying silk, and the weavers themselves are gone, and also because none of the slave bugs really know how any of this shit works, the Citadel falls into disrepair. By the time of the game, it's falling apart and practically deserted.The skeleton crew weavers die off because they have fertility problems, nobody's left around to supervise things and the indoctrinated madmen bugs control the asylum.Since everything's falling apart, the seal on Granny starts failing and she begins thrashing in her sleep. Since the crazy bugs have spent generations injecting themselves with silk to make the immortal music cult more literal, she's able to infect them with mind control while sleeping.She seethes so hard in her sleep over her deadbeat weaver daughters that this is why all the zombified bugs want to kill you.
>>721683145I am Calypso, and I thank you for playing Twisted Metal!Give me a break, spider pussy is really weird to draw. That's how it was drawn on the spider diagram I found.
>>721684909You keep posting the same clip instead of various examples of it being good
>>721685121Literally imagine having a :3 for a vagina.
>>721685107This sounds pretty spot on, but where do Phantom and Lace fit into this?
>>721684909Because its shit and is more trouble than help
>>721684776That one part at 2 minutes where the big bells come in is so fucking good but it only happens once per loop so I never get tired of it. Every time I'm there I wait to hear it.
>>721685254At some point, Granny spins some kids out of pure silk while sleeping to be replacements for her estranged daughters. That's really it. Lace is incredibly threatened by Hornet and thinks Granny wants to replace her, so she derails your kidnapping party and then tries to kill you when you stick around instead of doing the sensible thing and running away.
>>721684707Imagine making someone so mad they start yelling at you in MD5 hash codes
>>721685107Thanks for the actual reply, almost missed it with the spam. I thought the Weavers were somehow wiped out when the regular bugs took over. I didn't realize they just fucked off and died. Is there any reason given as to why they choose to leave their shining utopia and how they ended up going extinct? Also is Silk directly controlling the bugs hunting for Weaver spawn? Seems a little to organized for her to be doing unconsciously, and how does it even benefit her? Also what was Lace doing during all this?
>>721685545All I did was fulfill his every desire, lol.
I just think she's neat
>>721685605My understanding is they left because GMS was waking up and they knew she was going to be fucking pissed at them
>>721685354>Granny spins some kids out of pure silk while sleeping to be replacements for her estranged daughters.I was able to pick up the rest about Lace and her actions against Hornet, but I suppose it does make sense that Silk would be able to spin children out of sheer subconscious desire.However I do think that Silk could have built Phantom and Lace while still ruling over Pharloom with the Weavers, maybe her obsession with making even more children could have been what made the Weavers realize that something was amiss.
>>721685605The weavers ran because they knew that Granny would inevitably escape one day and didn't want to be anywhere close when that happened. It's not clear if she's personally ordering the weaver hunts, but the best explanation for why it's happening is that the weavers are being enslaved to produce silk for the citadel because they can't use Granny's (presumably out of fear of waking her up). Lace was just vibing and being Generic Brand Hornet guarding the citadel to earn browny points with mamma.
I really thought Phantom would be more important than a random optional boss from her being a steam trading card and also connected to Lace
>>721685605>I thought the Weavers were somehow wiped out when the regular bugs took over.The whole reason the Weavers made Weavenests was to avoid Silk's gaze while they plotted against her in the dark. There's also that one map that highlights exits from Pharloom, implying that they all just booked it once they were sure Silk was contained well enough for them to escape.
>>721685784I thought the Conductors ordered it because they were running out of silk, the gramma was waking up due to so much of it having been taken already
Which npc that we don't fight during the base game will have a boss fight in the inevitable boss rush dlc?
>>721685972Probably. Like I said it's not 100% clear.
>Normal bugs after being given sentience by Pale KingWe wuv u :D>ph*rlids bugs after being given sentience by Grand Mother SilkKys >:(
>>721685782>>721685784I still don't get what Lace's actual goal was. If she was fully on Silk's side it seems like she would have been able to wake her up ages ago. How does Hornet even do it in game? She just walks in and yells at her.
>>721685991I still want to fight the dead Vault Keeper, Architect and Conductor (even though I think The Unravelled was one of those Conductors). Forge Daughter would alao be great.
>>721685991Seamstress and Pinstress duo fight like the Brothers though maybe that's too similar
>>721686097She's insecure and thinks GMS is going to replace her with Hornet. This is from her Needolin dialogue in her second fight.
>>721686097>If she was fully on Silk's sideShe's not>How does Hornet even do it in game?By messing with the music probably
>>721685605Probably has to do with Eva. She was an attempt to replace Silk, but when she was an utter failure they realised there was no hope, and that it was only a matter of time before Silk awakened and obliterated them for their betrayal, so they fucked off and left the citadel to the architects/conductors
>>721685991Conductor BaladorSeamstressPinmasterVog
>>721686047Why the fuck does everyone hate her so much? She's pretty much only characterized as genuinely loving her children.
>>721685121Original requester here:It's acceptable enough. But give me a warning before I know it's going to be you drawing a reward again, for beating a hard game.
>>721686280They see the dystopian state of pharloom and think it's her doing
>>721686280weavers are genuinely retardedthey had everything they could ever want, even the ability to create and manipulate a divine material that can make normal bugs immortal
>>721686280She made the weavers play songs for her. the monster
>>721686097Lace hates her mom for seemingly not giving a shit about her, and after GMS let Phantom wither away and die she's reasonably afraid that GMS doesn't actually care if she lives or dies, but she's still desperate for the attention, love, and validation regardless.She sees Hornet being brought into Pharloom as GMS trying to replace her with a more perfect daughter, so she tries to kill Hornet to prevent that from happening. When that plan fails, she decides to spite her mother one last time by protecting Hornet at her expense.
>>721685229So does the spider penis go into the : or the 3
>>721686312I said it'd be a cute doodle, never said anything about porn, lol.
>>721686257>She was an attempt to replace SilkI'm pretty sure Eva was an attempt by the Weavers to make their own version of Lace because of their borderline inability to reproduce.
>>721686280Hunting your species to extinction and mind controlling everyone else to form a tidy production pipeline for your energy needs kinda tends to inspire negativity in people
>>721686361No no. You see she called them daughters but they are actually adopted. their crash out was justified
>>721686426The 3
>>721686280>How dare you elevate us from beast in your own image, make us immortal and magical, create a gilded city in the sky full of bugs who literally worship us, and shower us with your eternal love and affection and treat us as your own children! We'll never forgive you!
>>721686426It's an external genital, so you kinda just rub cum onto it, I think. It honestly looks like a nose.
Bad mom
>>721686450You ALSO said anything I wanted.But, I suppose we're even. How far did you get in tbe game, anyway?
>>721686569>>721686469So you're telling me that the pale king was right about weavers.
>>721686569>create a gilded city in the sky full of bugs who literally worship usI think this came after
>>721686626The pale chad was right about everything. Except void
>>721686616I beat it a couple days ago, which is why I'm free to draw again. Never bothered with the Green Prince or Verdania or whatever it's called and I forgot to heed the crawfather's summon, and I'm missing a bunch of tools, but whatever.
>>721686626>Fuck Weavers-Pale King probably
>>721686713>He didn't kill the fagYou didn't get the true ending
Guys, I think I give up trying to beat Tormented Trobbio....
>>721686713Nice.I really liked Verdania, you don't need anything from there but I think it's worth it for the gameplay.
>>721686680He had the last laugh
>>721686767He sure did
>>721686280Even if she really did love her "children" her deception and obsession caused literally everyone other than her children an incredible amount of pain and suffering. I don't remember the Pale King building a supermassive industrial hellscape and killing off the surrounding regions and peoples via lifelong servitude. In fact, he was such a good ruler that people actively flocked to him all on their own while also being allowed to do as they pleased.
>>721686047Pale King gave his bugs a brothel and let them indulge in their fantasies and also never told them they came from his bugsack unlike Grand Mother Gilf
>>721686783If you can't beat him the final boss is really going to fuck you
>>721686713>89%You didn't beat the game.
>>721686798Actually letting him live keeps verdania opened. Killing him just gets you a memento that eventually turns annoying
>>721686680He was unironically right about the void too. All his servants worked and the Vessels did exactly what they were supposed to do in the end. The only error was that they genuinely loved him too much. Even ages later they're still taking care of his family.
>>721686869PK was an autist, which is why he made a great ruler. He was satisfied with simple obsessions, like big ladies and saws.
>>721686971The void particles in his throne room suggests the void ended up killed him so...
>>721686880does she also spam seizure inducing particle effects all over the screen?
>>721686879The bugs in Hallownest DID believe that the Pale King created the world and everything/one in it. He was just smart and let them reach that conclusion themselves instead of forcing it on them.
>>721687069Yes. A metric shitload of Void goo, yes.
>>721687114god dammit
>>721685229>>721686426>>721686574This is what I don't understand about bugs and other animals with weird mating habits. What compels them to do this, other than that basic instinct of "I have to do this thing right now." Like with mammals, we enjoy fucking for obvious reasons, so that compels us to do it, but what is going through a spider's mind, if anything at all, when it rubs jizz on its legs or fangs or whatever and rubs it on some other spider's... holes? I don't get it.
>>721686460>Hide her deep, the despised child, our shame shown in shell of iron. She is a wish cast vain, divinity mimicked in form too frail.>Flee, sisters. Flee until your strength exhausts, so far you may escape at last her silken sight. To start anew, to sustain, free of web and service eternal.>Sisters, spiders, the burden is passed. These simple bugs shall bear it full. Never to cease. Never to silence. We shall die, and wait, and pray, that one may come of silken strength enough to weave us free.They needed someone of "silken strength" to overthrow GMS, and Eva seems to be the one they were banking their hope on but she was a failure, that's what tipped them over the edge and they fled
>>721687063His death room is weird. He was just sat there, with no signs of struggle. Yeah void possibly killed him, but it's like he didn't fight it
>>721687194Pleasure signals aren't particularly complicated. Bug brains are so simple you have mushrooms that can hack them and pilote them like mechas
>>721687194Most creatures don't have a ton going on in their heads. They're mainly focused with eating, fucking, and not dying. Sex for most creatures doesn't feel amazing, but it's something they do on an instinctual basis.
>>721687194Why salmon has such retarded breeding cycle? Why are mantis suicidal for breeding? why mayflies only live to breed and die? it's pure instinct
>>721687212>The weavers never told the Pale King they were on the run from another god level being that could have really fucked things up while they were already trying to deal with The Radiance. Imagine if GMS showed up angry and raging in the middle of Hollow Knight 1.
>>721687291>he thinks humans are immune to being hijacked like that
>>721687220He could have molted and fucked off as well, we don't really know.
>>721687370wouldn't all of pharloom fall to shit without her silk keeping things going?
>>721687063What are the chances he died naturally and void just consumed his corpse? He wasn't actually immortal or anything, right? He was gonna go at some point?
I kinda wish you could help the inhabitants of Bone Bottom build a new little settlement after you find them where the fleas used to hang out
>>721687436Yeah, but everything in Pharloom is infested with her silk to begin with, so there's nothing stopping her from marching the entire population of Pharloom to invade Hallownest.
>>721687220Remember he can see the future. he knows his kingdom was doomed from the beginning but he thought void had some kind of stagnation powers that could stop that. he just gave up when void didn't work
>>721687370Honestly probably would be manageable. Silk seems like the weakest of all the pale beings we've seen so far.
>>721687406I like this idea. Pale King protagonist for Hollow Knight 3.
>>721687542Weavers did manage to seal her once
>>721687563MatPat finally vindicated after all these years
>>721687452Hard to say. Pale King explicitly did the Jesus thing and brought himself down to the level of a regular bug to better connect with his subjects, but does that mean he made himself mortal too, or just bug sized? Did he really die, or did he just shed his little bug shell and fuck off to try Hallownest again somewhere else?
>>721687024>like big ladies and sawsWe need more leaders like him.
>>721687472Act 3 is grim. I kind of suspect that DLC content will have something to do with rebuilding a few areas around Pharloom. Or maybe everything gets even worse, who knows.
>>721687394It would be a lot more complicated since the number of neural pathways is orders of magnitudes larger. We were recently able to fully digitise a fly's brain, (by slicing it up into lots of tiny layers and scanning each one), so we actually know what each combination of signals does. I think they even made an interfaceable 3d model you can use, and just activate regions to see for instance which limbs get activated. They were able to replicate the entire process of sucking up food through neural signals.
>>721687406I thought this was all but canonThe big worm guy says "Does such a being even die, or simply transform?" or something along those lines
>>721685075there are two other benches though the second one is only available after you defeat the boss
>>721687643 Nah the godsucker confirms he, his essence and all that was him is gone. he got voided out of existence
>>721687662Well we do know they can die. Both are suppositions, with nothing much to currently confirm either
>>721687370>Haunting btfo by the infection>Silk immediately overtaken by orange aids and turned into another vassal of radiance>More free exp for Chad Knight
>>721687212>They needed someone of "silken strength" to overthrow GMSSo Eva was actually the Weavers attempt to make their own Hornet, only to accidently make a Phantom. That actually makes a lot of sense considering how the Weavers treated Hornet when she was a child.
>>721687609Us not knowing how strong the weavers really are makes it hard to tell if that's embarrassing or a feat. Either she got sealed by a bunch of mortals or an entire race of demigods only managed to temporarily contain her.
>>721687452There's technically nothing saying they are mortal. Silk for instance seems to be able to extend your life indefinitely.
>>721687628Was there some dumb theory about pk?
Could Team Cherry even make a third game without having everything be infected by some kind of infection/curse? Seems like that's their bread and butter.
>>721687921He thought the Knight was a reincarnation of the Pale King, forgetting that the two were in the same place during the birthplace cutscene
>>721687727I don't remember this, got a pic?
Act 4 hornet reprimanding and correcting lace brattiness would be kino
>>721687968Ah...
>>721687969https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Godseeker
>>721687925It's the easiest way to make an entire world with varied creatures that all want to kill you but is also not some alien hellscape with little to no civilizationEven Metroid games have to resort to that pretty often since "space pirate outpost on hostile australia planet" can wear pretty thin
>>721686869Bugs flocked to Pharloom too. Even ones unaffected by the silk.>>721686280How much of the "you're not even allowed to die" dystopia was her? Because if she was always that much of a control freak I could understand the weavers turning on her. But if that was all them, then I have no idea what their problem was.
>>721687925>region locked in the middle of a violent war between several kingdoms led by a pantheon of rival gods>MC must unite or conquer the kingdoms in face of an impending disaster that threatens to eradicate all bugs
>>721687925>Could fromsoft even make a third game without having everything be infected by some kind of infection/curse? Seems like that's their bread and butter.Though there's always ways around it. Either wild beasts, enemy kingdoms, etc. though we do still have the void and lifeblood as infection sources to ruin kingdoms.
>>721686869>I don't remember the Pale King building a supermassive industrial hellscape and killing off the surrounding regions and peoples via lifelong servitudeThe Weavers and Conductors did that. Pharloom used to be bursting with song all dedicated to keep Grandmother Silk asleep.
>>721674870normally i just figure shit out but i use the interactive map when i forget where something is or look up where to go when i'm really tired bc i'll play for hours at a time. got about 40 hours still in act 2i admit i do hate accidentally spoiling something, it's a rough trade off for saving some time but it still feels good to play/experience stuff regardless of spoilers
>>721688131so bug dynasty warriorsor bug morrowind
>>721687069It made my switch seriously lag dur8ng the fight, lol
>>721687508I used to think Hornet's arc was opposite of the Pale King's (being that she actually stuck around to fix the kingdom rather than run away) but, yeah I forgot, foresight is fixed. There really was nothing he could do.
>>721687925Pharloom would have worked just as well if they all went after you because the religion they've been indoctrinated into for generations told them you need to be captured/killed
>>721688187Void has already been touched on plenty in both games, and lifeblood doesn't really seem aggressive or malevolent at all
>>721688131This is also what I was thinking. They've had a kingdom destroyed by disease/a force of nature and one destroyed by corruption, infighting, and mismanagement. Rounding it out with kingdoms being destroyed by external conflict would make a lot of sense.And it would provide an excuse for varied environments and enemy types.
>>721688068Were you talking about >Even long departed, We feel the afterglow of the God-power that sat this throne... It lays heavy upon this kingdom.That lingering power alone was beacon enough to draw Us to Hallownest. How bright it must have been to mortal bug stood before it.Seems like it could mean both left and died
>>721688417Honestly the only faction that needs some exploration right now is the steel fuck kingdom
>>721688417Unless you have a kingdom overdosed on lifeblood
>>721688685Literally the next one
>>721675101some enemies/attacks for 2 damage are bullshit, some are fair. environmental damage for 2 is total bullshit except certain ones like lava.but it's okay. it's there to reinforce your skill especially since early game your stuck at 5-6hp. not getting hit is super important.git gud or get fucked
>>721688770Isn't it a bit of a contradiction to say it's erased so completely and also lingering so much it attracted them?
>>721688868Could have been like star light. the light we see is actually pretty old
>>721688131>>721688187Imagine a game set in a huge kingdom that is losing its grip on its outer realms. The areas on the outside are all crawling with rebel factions leading nationalist uprisings, and the core areas in the centre of the kingdom are crawling with the imperial guard or whatever, and in the areas inbetween you can find both types fighting eachother. Either side will kill you on sight because they dont know who you are, and you are some poor kid from a slave race of bugs that everyone treats like shit, but one day you had a premonition of your tribe's god saying that you will be the one to end the war and unite the kingdom. Holy fuark, I need to email Team Cherry or something.