>I want Disco Elysium without the good writing>No problem...
>>721681576There's no way this is real. I refuse to believe it.
>>721681576>The END of History>in a world that is multipolar and each pole has a a different ideology and they are all against each other...>>721681673It is>https://nitter.net/JamrockHobo/status/1971280773853626468#m
>>721681576liberalism is a disease
>>721681576>I want Disco Elysium without the good writingThis implies Disco Elysium had good writing to begin with. I enjoy me a good story in my vidya but Disco Elysium ain't it.
>>721681576Any writer who writes the phrase "well that just happened" should be banned from writing
>>721681901disco slop was so terrible that i quit it by the time i left the apartment complex
>>721682000You. Just. Typed. It.
>>721681576Please tell me this is edited.
>>721682057He's not a writer tho, just a guy posting.
>>721681576That's because the average redditor mostly perceived disco elysium as le alcoholic quirky cop adventures and made a game out of it
>>721681765jesus fucking christ
>>721681576Wait, this is the game that (the shell company that is now) ZA/UM is making?After kicking out all their writers?
>>721682145You can't prove that
>>721681576Discoboys I'm not feeling so disco right now
>>721682043>>721681901Disco was fine and inspired at times. I suspect your only exposure to the game was arguing with other /v/tards. Also put up or shut up, name a well written game. (inb4 planescape or some shit)
>>721681576Which generation wrote this?
>>721681576>I want Disco Elysium without the good writingDisco Elysium was already a game without good writing
>>721682489500% millenial. Specifically white american millenials.
>>721681576FUCKCRUSTABLE DAY
is this the thread where we pretend the critically acclaimed and overwhelmingly positively reviewed game Disco Elysium™ had "bad writing" because we're such great arbiters of taste we know what "good writing" is and definitely always post tons of examples of good writing in video games?
>>721682489
>>721681576It's not real.>>721681673>>721682142
>>721682576I think you should reread the OP if you think this is about Disco Elysium.
>>721681765What a fuck Is a techno-fascist now That definition got uncerimoniously raped during the last 5 years, no one has the slightest idea of what being a fascist means
Picrelated vs "So that just happened."Which way Discoman?
>>721682669I was referring to all the people pretending Disco Elysium was bad, read the thread.
>>721682707Whatever big tech companies in california are doing probably
>>721681576>quip>gormless question that she answers anyways if you select other options>quip with swear words>quip
>>721681576>It's bad because of incredibly forced memespeakDare i say, heckin based and TRVTHpilled?
>>721682629This one's real though
If disco elysium has bad writing can you name a few games that have good writing?
>>721682831myst
>>721682483nah I legitimately gave it a fair shake and just found it pretentious. The intro section with the hamfisted "WOWA ISNT IT CUH-CUH-CRAZEE THAT WE ARE ALL JUST ANGRY APES ON A BALL OF DIRT?!" shit kinda tipped me off that it wasn't that good from the get go. And as I went through the game I found that to be increasingly true as it failed to create a world that I could find believable since every character either talks like a flanderized parody of someone online or they all talk like a liberal arts major. I'm also genuinely pissed off that despite the marketing and presentation being about RPing as a schizo detective the actual detective bits are really half baked and get put on the back burner about halfway through only to end in the lamest way possible.Really the only good point I can give DE is that it has some decent dialogue variation based on your stats but thats more of a novelty and doesn't save the experience for me.
>>721682831xenoblade chronicles 2
>>721681576>*Gulp* So that just happened>Did you just... kidnap me??"FORSPOKEN 2
>>721682830Yeah, that one is, unfortunately, real.
>>721681576I wonder what goes on in the heads of people who aren't utterly repulsed by this game
>>721682831seven pirates H
The reason why Disco Elysium's humor works so well is that the surrounding is so dreadful and depressing that when you're faced with some deadpan humor about wondering if guy secretly storing anal beads in his asshole it takes you by surprise.
>>721682707That shit where Peter Theil says that he needs to track your internet history in order to protect you from the antichrist.
>>721682831this question is disengenuous because according to your average /v/tard DE has "superior writing" because it forsakes everything that videogames as a medium provide. Its literally just a western VN and because retards hold the belief that videogames = bad writing and books = good writing DE must innately have good writing due to its presentation. Meanwhile your average DE fanboy can't even convey what makes DE's writing good beyond vague posting about the general vibes and themes.
>>721681576>>721682629>Random words inside asterisksFanfiction writers should not be allowed to do work that actually gets published.
>>721682831Star Control 2, Planecape Torment, Alpha Centauri.Disco was good too, I just wanted to list a few.
>>721682831>games >good writingThis is like trying to find good writing in porn. Not a single good writer would write a story for a videogame. Videogames are a lowest of the low for writers. Good writers usually write books because they can show their talent in full while doing this.
>>721683108Im being 100% honest here when I say I didnt laugh at a single joke DE told. The writers legitimately don't understand humor because every joke comes from a mile away before having a lame punchline followed by repeating the punchline like a dozen times to make sure you got it.
lol. no way this is real. just not true or possible. its impossible to lack the self awareness to do an unironic "So that just happened" redditor tier response
>>721683351Guy discovers humor is subjective and doesn't land with everybody. I rarely laugh out loud but the 'is he still hanging from the tree?' dialogue near the beginning of the game made me laugh.
>>721683274whats funny is that Disco Elysium's lead writer is literally a failed novelist. The dude failed to make it in publishing actual books so he hopped to videogames.
I am convinced no one on this board actually knows what "good writing" really is. Game with GOODWRITING = game with a story i like and where people talk a loti dont really know either btw, I'd probably pick Pathologic 2, THOUGH
>>721683206>can't even convey what makes DE's writing goodhow can one even measure what is and isn't "good writing" what metric do you use?what are some examples of good writing? bad writing?it just comes down to "did you like this?" and people did so they say it had good writing, because the game had writing and they enjoyed it.
>>721682904>found it pretentiousMeaning: I can't actually criticize it beyond "I didn't like it" but I need you to believe I've got Real Criticism that makes it Objectively Bad
>>721682707>That definition got uncerimoniously raped during the last 5 years, no one has the slightest idea of what being a fascist meansNobody using fascist correctly has been a meme since at least the 70's.
TRVTH NUKE:"Good writing" is writing in such a way that the reader/viewer/player feels the emotions you want them to feel at that moment in an organic matter, as well as the story being logical internally.If a story made you feel bad when a character died - good news, it's good writing.
>>721681576That is egregious.>Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.>What a fuckcrustable day this has been.It's like they're trying to satirize the way cringe redditors talk.
>>721682831Elden Ring
>>721682789grim
>>721683712Weren't all 4 of those options things that were written on that image about millennial speak? I think it is supposed to be satire.
>>721681576>Disco Elysium>good writing
these threads are made just to see how gullible and retarded the average /v/ poster is
>>721683681what the fuck is "organic matter", fiction and writing are artifice, it's not realOther than that that's a pretty low bar IMO
>>721681576I don't know what game this is, but that is Reddit Millenial - the writing.
>>721683495
>>721683589I found it pretentious because the game likes to hear itself talk. You interact with some fucking bum in Disco Elysium and he has the eloquence of a Liberal Arts Major and begins discussing philosophy with me when I'm just trying to bum a ciggie. I leave the bum behind and interact with another NPC only to discover that NPC is an over the top parody of some twitter shitposter the writers got into an arguement with in the past. I go to pick up a coin next to the trash and initiate a 12 paragraph long essay where my character's internal voices ponder about the absurdity of fiat currency systems. I look at a statue, pass a history check and then I get a sequence of dialogue prompts where the writers try to portray Emperor Nero on crack and they powercreep the absurd shit he does in the middle of it.
>>721682489Obviously Millenial
>>721682904That Is fair. For me it was the interaction between your stats that was really novel. On my particular playthrough (build dependent) there were moments that were as surprising as anything I'm read in any game ever. (like Klaasje getting called out for her bullshit against every other aspect by volition)
>>721681576Please tell tell me it's an edit.
>>721684262no shit nigger read the thread
>>721683195Pretty sure Peter Thiel said he personally prevented the far right from breaking through in Europe with Palantir and he and his cronies are afraid of Christian Nationalist throwing them out of windows. He's only fascist in the way that he's a Jewish supremacist.
>>721682831Sunless Sea
>>721682483Expedition 33
>>721682831legacy of kain
>>721681576Why do millennials love those same exact jokes so much? It’s like their version of the anime hot springs scenes where the girls go “KYAAAAA ECCHI!”
>>721681576do antifa really talk like this
>>721681576>decent writing and then suddenly every dialogue choice except one is a non-sequitur memeWhy? Why do that to your own work?
>>721682145He wrote his post so surely that counts
>>721684160I like how the guy who likes disco elysium completely ignored this post lol
>>721681576>Disco Elysium>good writingIt's a hodgepodge of political strawmen written by someone who never left their edgy teenager phase.
>>721682576The game called me a centrist and that means the writers are hack frauds.
>>721681765>>721681576>this is what shitposters pretended Disco Elysium was
>>721682831The first Black Ops.
The only disco successor worth keeping an eye on is the one by the cultist sim/fallen london dev.
>>721681576Every single fucking line
>>721683206>themes doesn't count toward good writingI have illiterate retard fatigue. Never post on /v/ again, you are the retarded cancer that is killing this board.
>>721681576Didn't these guys fuck over the real devs of DE?
>>721687908They don't. A theme is just a descriptive term stating a general idea that the writing, story, and experiences of the media revolves around. It doesn't speak to the actual quality of the writing or ideas whatsoever.Sit down, midwit.
>>721681576>disco elysium>good writingkek
>>721681576>erm, my hands are right behind me aren't theyhhhhggggngghgghhgg
>>721687590Really looking forward to this as a retard who doesn't really care for card mechanics but loves the invisible arts.
>>721687475shouldn't have picked the centrist dialogue options then you milquetoast bitch
>>721681765ZA WARUDO
>>721682831>>721685209thats it
>>721683440yes you a bitch we know
>>721682756>>721682756I once read that the whole game is basically an autopsy of revachol in which Harry goes through the corpse of the city but he does it with care and love like how he pets the dead man's head there
>>721683681>feels the emotions you want them to feel at that moment in an organic matter,I felt emotions in disgeae 3 cause mao talked about his daddy, doesn't mean that shits well written
>>721689312>DAMAGED MORALE -1
>>721682904>christcuck rightoid upset that it didn't begin with "let there be light" or something Just be honest and say you don't like the game because it doesn't cater to your close minded beliefs and move on.
>>721689850Why do people like you choose to construct and then argue with fanfiction instead of engage with any of his points?
>>721684160None of that happens
>>721690142>WOWA ISNT IT CUH-CUH-CRAZEE THAT WE ARE ALL JUST ANGRY APES ON A BALL OF DIRT?!"This is true and just because you put it in all caps in your autistic fit doesn't make it a valid point. Only a religion obsessed rightoid gets upset at the mention of evolution.>every character either talks like a flanderized parody of someone online or they all talk like a liberal arts major.Once again its obvious this is just rightoid rage baiting. I bet measurehead is his favorite if he even played the game which he probably didn't.>I'm also genuinely pissed off that despite the marketing and presentation being about RPing as a schizo detective the actual detective bits are really half bakedsubjective opinion I disagree with. Once again his bias shows through. He wouldn't complain about a lack of detective work if the game was based and redpilled and totally owned the woketards.
>>721682904>The intro section with the hamfisted "WOWA ISNT IT CUH-CUH-CRAZEE THAT WE ARE ALL JUST ANGRY APES ON A BALL OF DIRT?!" shit kinda tipped me off that it wasn't that good from the get go.Immensely retarded take. The game put those words in the mouth of an unlovable depressed alcoholic for a reason.
>>721682831Earth Defense Force 6
>>721681576I hate ZA/UM because the chances of a Measurehead spin-off is 0% without the original team.
>>721682576>critically acclaimed and overwhelmingly positively reviewedso is pokemon
>>721690685NTA but did you really just use>the writing is bad because the character is badas an excuse?
>>721681576>Disco Elysium>good writingMaybe if you're a boring liberal arts major.
>>721690451Oh, I see. So true fellow normal person.
>>721690846The writing isn't bad. The guy is complaining about an immature idea coming from an immature character. The whole game is centered around refuting that kind of thinking, so citing it as a complaint is retarded.
>>721684160i liked disco elysium but this is accurate
>>721691351You've never played it, it's not, and you should kill yourself.
>>721691402i have, it's hyperbole, but there's truth to it
>>721690958>Why do people like you choose to construct and then argue with fanfiction instead of engage with any of his points?There's your answer. You don't have any arguments to stand on.You don't like anything that challenges your world view or has anything intellectual to say. Also, resorting to strawman memes: I accept your concession.
>>721681576Try Esoteric Ebb.
>>721691784You don't have anything intellectual to say. I'm not sure why you think screeching about "religion-obsessed rightoids" is intellectual.
The only people who think DE had good writing are blowhard communists who think all of its trite blarney serves as an affirmation of their gaytarded ideology. You can't deny it.
*gulp* we must be better men
>>721683681I agree. Too many people are focused on complex prose for its own sake. Getting the message across is the most important goal, and a work that says nothing in a very complicated fashion will appeal only to a limited audience.To be clear, having a bit of complexity is important in a novel because the words are the entirety of the work and are how you give the text rhythm and structure, but games can use voice acting and animations for that, and they also don't require so many words to begin with (e.g. you can show a scene graphically, rather than describing it in detail).
>>721681576I don't want disco elysium
>>721687590I never beat Cultist Sim. Is this going to be connected? I see some familiar symbols there.
>>721691902Actually, I figure I should expand on this.You see, the difference between my "strawman" and your strawman is you literally have invented entirely within your own head the opinions you think he has, and are now arguing against it.Case in point; >I bet measurehead is his favorite if he even played the game which he probably didn't.You have no idea who his favorite was, he never said, and are only inferring it because of your own cartoon version of his opinions that he never expressed and exist only within your own thick skull.>He wouldn't complain about a lack of detective work if the game was based and redpilled and totally owned the woketards.Once again, you are putting words in his mouth that he never said or even implied, merely to facilitate your own delusional caricature that exists only within your own mind.The difference between our caricatures is you literally are the caricature I posted, based only on the words you yourself typed. Unprompted, you started screeching about religion, rightoids, woke, etc. Why? Because you clearly felt your religion was attacked.The most you can pin on him is he didn't like the nihilistic atheist nonsense that infests so many enlightened fedora types, and you used that as a jumping off point to completely construct your own caricature of him, literally based on a single sentence.As I said, you have nothing intellectual to say because you aren't an intellectual, you're an offended cultist.That's the last effortpost you'll be getting. TLDR: KYS fag.
>>721681576>SubeditorReally nigga? That's the best you can do?
>>721681576Subeditor? More like subredditor!
>>721681576I know this is bait, but this game is 100 percent going to be what the chuds thought DE was
>>721682043Cop was overwhelmed by existential ennui while talking to a poorly behaved child and died, I stopped playing after that.
>>721681765This shit pretty much confirms the whole drama was just so glowies could take over the studio.
funny this post got made because I literally finished DE today. Awesome project, a bit overrated as a game. People talk about it as like, the greatest piece of media ever and I don't get it. The tribunal was awesome though, and there are some really strong and interesting characters (harry, the deserter, klassje, kim)The writing was good, but the dialogue definitely sniffed its own farts at times. There were moments in the second half where I was skipping entire conversations, which I would normally never do, because they were legitimately 20-minute-long lore dumps that I didn't give a fuck about. The direction was always A+, though.
>>721682629This ain't better bruh.
>>721681576Damn I wanna keep her tied to that chair and finger the fuck outta her from behind
>>721681576this is giving me the ick brehs
>>721683681Plebeian take.
>>721681765This faggot was 100% bought by ZA/UM. He only has good things to say about them now with some light criticisms to avoid looking too suspicious. The OP image is fake and it only serves to discredit detractors. There are plenty of valid reasons to hate ZA/UM, namely the fact that they are literally IP thieves.
>>721681901you are trying too hard but I will bite. name a game with writing you consider good. Looking forward to your non response
>>721682483>name a well written gameOkay.
>>721684160sounds like an ADHD problem to me.
>>721684160That's just how Russians talk.
>>721692829>RussiansbalticX
>>721681576aside from being reddit and le quirky, whats wrong with this? DE had WHERE THE HOOD at line and it was funny
>>721683243Don't be harsh. It's a tiny indie game that couldn't afford italics.
>>721683243I don't understand why SO many games do this instead of just bolding or italicizing the word. Especially fucking visual novels with so much text
>>721682831https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSPXSMzTym8
>>721682576The critics:
>/v/ only wants highbrow dialogue for intellectual gamers such as myselfThe fun of games is getting to see characters react to the most retarded dialogue possible.
>>721693332nu /v/ hates this game and 4A for not being as grounded and heckin intellectual and mature as their prequels, perchance
>>721681576time to start scratching them off the list, boys
>>721693637You can remove one more as Tangerine Antarctic aka XXX Nightshift is now a full 3D game.
>>721693864actually vomit inudcing
>>721684363isn't thiel gay? im pretty sure a tradcath dictatorship would be quite bad for him
>>721681576>>721682483Leftists game cannot be art.You deserve to be thrown in prison if you liked Disco Elysium. Just imagine how much we can genetically improve the White race, you can get rid of "woke genes" that way
>>721693864what a cursed game Disco is. A few more years and they'll somehow manifest the pale into reality through sheer accident
>>721681832maganegrosity is a terminal one.
>>721681901>This implies Disco Elysium had good writing to begin with.You're right, it had excellent writing. That other fella was selling it short.
>>721693637>>721693864Any successor is fucked. Games inspired by DE are the ones to look out for. Games like Esoteric Ebb and such.
>>721682489Clearly genZ, between sessions of tiktoking.
>>721693864Jesus Christ.
>>721682707Thats because centrists are retard, and pay no attention that fascism never meant anything. Its only in the past years that even centrists are realizing this because men have successfully crushed that word, the overton window has shifted and leftoids delegitimized it thru overuse. It was a fake slur invented by leftists to attack their enemies. Retarded cuckservatives then let the left manipulate the language and enable the fake word fascism to exist, because they thought it mean "authoritharian". However, the word fascism had no meaning. It was a destroyed word that almost had nothing to do with actual fascisms, the italian social movement born in the 1920s. I like to call these "racist" words. These are words that have no meaning, their definition is intentionally vague, their purpose is meant to demonize and slur in the hopes that their enemy cares that they are being called that. It is a bad faith words, and like all bad faith arguments, they fall apart the moment their enemies realize its in bad faith and try to counter-act. Similar words are:Zionist NaziRacistToxicMedia literacyMany leftoid zoomer speak also are similar like x-coded
>>721694796Disco Elysium doesn't have good writing. This is an objective fact. Its not a good game too.
>>721693864What a terrible decision. The isometric/bird's eye view helps mask the low budget of the game. Now it's just going to look and feel as cheap as it actually is.
>>721682831Homeworld
The only Disco Elysium clone I have any hope for is Travelling at Night specifically because the creator has been writing dense esoteric shit for 14 years at this point and he isn't trying to chase this trend of some political commentary artpiece, it's just a good format for the setting he has created finally getting a proper game.
>>721693175>>721683243fuck you asterisks are a solid punctuation used to *emphasize* anything, relying too much on fonts and their types can be just as obnoxiousit's an alternative just like emdash to denote dialogues
>>721681576Why all libtards so mentally ill?
>>721695064That's right anon, that's the way to fit in with the contrarian 4channers!
>>721681765The mechanics looks good but yeah that writing is pretty fucking awful.
>>721695323That is a cope you invented for yourself because you legitimately have no confidence in your opinion. To be expected, because objectively speaking, it does not have good writing lol.
>>721693864Actually disgusting dialogue.
>>721695437Attaboy, you were made for /v/.
>>721695437You have confidence in whatever you think will make you fit in with these underage retards. You're too far gone to have any introspection.
Can we all stop pretending that disco was a good game?
>>721694492
>>721694842>Any successor is fucked.Because like with all studios it was the entire team that developed the game. Not the creator of the setting, not just the artists and not even just the writers.
>>721694987Post nose.
>>721695491It's a bad game with good writing.
>>721695549The lead writer and lead artist are kinda important tho.
>>721682707
>>721695193>>721687590Nice didnt know they were working on this. I wish they'd get a more skilled artist on board for this project to help with the overworld and character portraits though
>>721682904>The intro section with the hamfisted "WOWA ISNT IT CUH-CUH-CRAZEE THAT WE ARE ALL JUST ANGRY APES ON A BALL OF DIRT?!" shit kinda tipped me off that it wasn't that good from the get go.I don't think you did "give it a fair shake" considering you made up your mind based on the very first conversation of the game. That, by the way, is just the coping mechanism of a man who's almost completely lost control of his life. You aren't supposed to agree with it. If you didn't like it, good. That was the point. Harry is not a likeable person at first.
>>721684160Anon, that homeless guy had early onset dementia. He was a smart guy who’s life fell apart because of the misfortune of his brain failing.
>>721681576Being a fence-sitter is gay, sure, but what if I don't agree with EVERY position a side has to offer? Clearly my brain functions different from theirs and my logic is OBVIOUSLY superior.
>>721681576> Disco Elysium.> Good Writing.Its really crap writing, honestly. I've seen Visual Novels with better writing than Disco Elysium.
>>721681576>fuckcrustable99% sure they invented that just to be able to say they said it first
>>721696014name 5
>>721694629That tree looks like a mushroom that ate my brother in a dream I had when I was 3
>>721692829i found verbose rambling that oscillate between centuries-old philosophy and grimy mundane bullshit on snowy dilapidated streets to be extremely comfy>t. russkie
>>721695549That's obviously false, the guys steering the ship are who actually matter. No Robert Kurvitz =/= no Disco Elysium worth caring about
>>721681576i finished disco and thoroughly disappointed because there's no fucking combat instead talk, talk, talk
>>721696986zoom zoom
>>721696986Thats like finishing the entire dark souls 3 story and being disappointed because there wasnt any mahjong gameplay, are you retarded
>>721696413> Fate Stay/Night.> Higurashi> Fill the rest with generic ass eroge VNs and they'll 100% have better writing than Disco Elysium.
You kneel between her parted legs. The acolytes, Lena and Mira, have crawled to the side, now an enthralled audience to this sacred, profane ritual. You can feel the barrier before you even touch her. It's a palpable pressure in the air, a shimmering, invisible wall of force guarding the entrance to her cunt.You press forward, the head of your cock pushing against her. It's exactly as she said. You're not touching her flesh. You're pressing against a wall of solid, unyielding energy. It feels like pushing your dick against a pane of warm, vibrating glass. There's no give, no entry. Normal force will be useless.You look down at her. Her face is tight with concentration, a sheen of sweat on her brow. This is it. Your one shot.You close your eyes, focusing your will. The system screen flashes in your mind's eye.[Activate Skill: Virgin's Seed?][This skill can only be used once.][Cost: 100 MP]Yes.A catastrophic surge of power answers your command. Your MP bar plummets. The 130 points of mana you started with are instantly drained, leaving you feeling hollowed out, but the energy doesn't vanish. It coalesces, roaring down from your heart, superheating your blood, and pouring into your cock.The organ begins to glow, a brilliant, blinding white light that illuminates the entire temple. The runes on your saber, still sheathed at your hip, resonate with the power, glowing through the leather. Your cock pulses, not with blood, but with pure, untamed arcane creation. It feels like you're holding a miniature sun between your legs, the pressure building to an impossible, world-shattering crescendo. Elara cries out, shielding her eyes from the light, the heat washing over her in waves.The power is at its peak. The dam is about to break.1.Unleash the blast. You roar, thrusting your hips forward with all your might, releasing the full, explosive power of your [Virgin's Seed] directly into the arcane barrier.2. -3. -4. -My AI can write better
>>721683274>This is like trying to find good writing in porn.you are dipshit retard moron troglodyte parroting phrases from men slightly smarter than you
>>721697074>>721697091I expect RPG to have some sort of combat, the combat in disco is with your own mind with dice roll RNG instead
>>721681576A woman wrote this. Women should be beaten and they should EXPLODE
>>721695489>>721695526>>721695578>>721695472What a weird little bot.Disco Elysium is a bad game btw, that hasn't changed and the years have not been kind to it despite how much you fags were shilling it on /v/ all those years ago.
>>721681576Even though this is fake you can already tell this game is going to be utterly soulless without the original team that made the first game. This game already caters to a niche audience and they will not pay up for this garbage. It will flop.
>>721695064True, it had excellent writing and was an excellent game too.
>>721697823No, it had awful writing and was a shit game too.
>>721692797He asked for a game, not a book, you retard
>>721697167Well? Don't leave us in the dark! Is she pregnant?
>>721697117Nice try, dysgenic loser. Come back when you have a REAL argument.
>>721694987>ZionistI see this not as a bad faith word but a pussy one. Just say jew.
>>721698313> Unironically thinks leftie millennial irony slop writing in Disco Elysium is at all good writing.drama club tier idiot lmao.
>>721698436>continues to have no argument>pretends he wonA true student of the Kojima school.
>>721698693Kojima is also shit writing. Maybe the first few MGS games were good but he fell off real bad, must've been the tranny dicks.
>>721687590it's a "successor" only in the sense that it is a deliberately dialogue-only RPG effectively a point and click with statsit's also probably the biggest feast-or-famine project for them, since the format is actually familiar to unenlightened masses, unlike cultsim or book of hours, but it does require way more text than microfiction AK has been doing
why does /v/ existthe twitter review about it contains all the significant discussion and no one here is adding anything to it
>>721681576>fuck fuck fuck fuck!! ladderbros... I think we got too cocky..
>>721687590>disco successor>by the cultist sim/fallen london devOh yeah, schizokino's back on the menu.
>>721700154And many are responding to a fake screenshot as if it were real, even though someone posted the real dialogue a long time ago.
>>721697823disco's writing was fucking incredible. it's as close to literature as any video game has ever gotten.
>>721681576Quintessential reddit game>>721681901Only Planescape has better writing than Disco Elysium
>>721692772Nah, JamrockHobo wouldn't betray the community.
>>721690846NTA but are you retarded?
>>721700613NTA but why do you ask?
>>721700490He did, though. ZA/UM knows he can influence the community's opinions so they bought him. Just look at his last tweets, not a single real criticism since the mobile port was released.
>>721693637>>721693864Also Longdue/Hopetown is a scam made by a billionaire that wanted to use AI voices.
>>721682707>no one has the slightest idea of what being a fascist meansThe collusion of business and government?
>>721682831Sonic Adventure 2 BattleSonic GenerationsSonic (2006)
>>721696459was your brother a fun guy
>>721681576Is this from these guys?
>>721694842>inspired by DEHonestly if that whole wave actually comes to be (cause nearly 6 years post release is not a good prospect), I expect it to boil down to the "inspired by earthbound" nonsense. The fun fact about all the RPGM stuff that is so often grouped together due to "being quirky", is that their authors either claimed to not having playing any mother games, or share nothing but the off-kilter tone. OFF and Space Funeral and Middens and Hylics are all very much their own thing, an eclectic collection of cool stuff and barely-relevant RPG mechanics.Needless to say, talking stats and politics are surface-level trapping that don't represent quality of text-based games.
>>721681576So, just Disco Elysium then?
>>721682489By zoomers for zoomers
>>721682831Daggerfall
>>721681765>The End of HistorySo... the present?
>>721701363It's not, in fact.
>>721695197No it's not, you just think it is because you're retarded.
>>721681576women shouldnt be allowed to write stuff
>>72169810930 year old chaste temple priestess who put a barrier on her cunny to protect herself except nothing can penetrate her now and the barrier is stronger than ever, she prayed to the goddess to send someone to lift the barrier because surprise her barrier is somehow tied to the health and fertility of everyone around her so here I am isekai'd for her sake *explodes*
>>721692785Not him but KOTOR, Morrowind, and WoW. It’s hard to argue with the CRPG crowd because only other CRPGs tend to have that amount of text making comparison difficult.
>>721682831Marathon: Infinity
>>721682831FINAL FANTASY IX
>>721681576>>721681765>>721682629>>721682756>>721682830>>721682935>>721690958>>721693637>>721693864Why did they ruin video games?
>>721695197If you're going to add extra characters to EMPHASIZE a word, you're stupid.
>>721681576>BOOBAwhat game?
>>721681576>quirky >unnecessary cursing >female protagonist>memesA liberal white woman wrote this game I'm guessing
Disco Elysium writing is what people who don't read think good writing is.
>>721681576"SUBREDDITOR"
>>721703827capitalization badextra characters good
>>721681576Wow.
what are those bars>FAGGOTRY>ANXIETY>DILATION?truly a leftytroon game
>>721697654Only two are correct.
>>721682629This isn't much better
>>721682707>the last 5 years>5If only you knew how bad things really are.
>>721701498DE isn't that popular, indie devs just want free marketing for their visual novels.
>>721682707Peter Thiel kills his boyfriends in his free time and larps as antichrist while funding JD Vance during work hours. He's about to rape all americattle with Palantir social credit score and bombs them with Anduril drones when they do a wrongthink.Maybe techo-fascism isn't the right word since fascism implies nationalism. That doesn't apply since tech oligarchs are international borderless caste. You can even be an illegal South African immigrant and you'll still be invited to rape the amerimutt populace if you fund Israel lobby.
Remember the old adage, ironic shitposting is still shitposting.Just because you're making fun of capeshit quips with your dialogue options by repeating them almost verbatim, it doesn't mean your own writing becomes great.
>>721701498Creators should never say "successor" or "inspired" unless they can deliver. It draws comparisons that will set higher expectations.
>>721681576>I want Disco Elysium without the good writingSo, DE?
>>721681765i hate that fag jamrock hobo for being a commie and a streamer worshipper but i have to agree with him on this one opinion.
>>721681576Is the protagonist always a woman?
>>721682707fascism is actually really easily definable, it's just hyper ultranationalist authoritarian dictatorshipand no the US isn't there yet
>>721684120HEEEEELP! BURAKH IS TOUCHING THE CUNO!
>>721704313Techno feudalism is the term that actually means something. Shit like like techno-fascist and The End of History are huge red flags.
>>721704609America will never be there because modern America is a kosher empire. Nation is "ethnos". There's no such concept in America because American kosher empire does not serve the American national. It serves a specific upper caste that have no love for the average American.America is a slave state. Filled with slaves. The slaves cannot afford to get a benign tumor removed but they're welcome to die in the middle east for his master.
>>721681576I won't buy the game unless there's an obligatory>glass himreference in there.
>>721682707fascism means a large authoritarian, militaristic and nationalistic government that colludes with corporations and gives few social freedoms to its citizens.add racism, and you have national socialism.I'm afraid the fascist and nazi labels are accurately applied by the left more often than you'd think.
>>721704879it means 'person i don't like and i will conduct a witch hunt for'
>>721704769>Techno feudalismThat's the word. Good thinking. It slipped out of my mind.>The End of HistoryThis is the neoliberal term shat out by Fukuyama. It's about America winning and the entire world now being liberal globalized entity with no self interest. This was presented as a positive thing by the way.It aged horribly and Fukuyama had to cope with him being completely wrong. When talking about multipolarity and super power competition the opposite term is used - The Return of History. Game in the OP is written by a midwit that knows some words but doesn't know where they're applied.
sorry to bring up a game in your faggot politic thread but is this shit good? i enjoyed cultist simulator.
>>721705089It's dei lefty garbage.
>>721681576>disco elysium but woke
>>721682831Sunless SeaSunless SkiesBlood OmenLegacy of Kain (3 games)Vampire: The Masquerade - BloodlinesKnights of the Old Republic IIRogue Trader
>>721705241can i enjoy rogue trader without giving a fuck about 40k in the slightest?
>>721682831meet and fuck kingdom
>>721687590Clam Man 2.https://store.steampowered.com/app/1278380/Clam_Man_2_Headliner/
>>721705447Yes, it's designed specifically for people who are complete newbies.
>>721705089It's great if you want to chase esoteric lore. The experence is highly enhanced by keeping your own notes, building up your own compedium as you go on. Ultimately, gameplay-wise most of the time is spent dragging UI elements around so you can have enough numbers to get more lore. The only "puzzles" are that some places in the house have secret interactions that are hinted at through books.Spent a few dozen hours on it, but never managed to drag myself back to play the DLC. It's a chill game to get lost in for a few winter days, drinking hot coffee and figuring it out.
>>721705089One part obtuse mechanics, one part obtuse narrative. No "real" gameplay, even by the standards of the devs, so you gotta be all-in on story (which is very passive as well, no murder or divine ascension for you to worry about). It feels like the opposite of CultSim's Exile mechanically: a fairly non-committal game with the occasional frantic minmaxing, when you try to capitalize on an opportunity.
>>721705089Unlike cultist, it is very laid back and chill. But it has the same vibes. Requires extensive note takings—it will turn you into a wikipedia editor.
>>721681576Planescape Torment got his NumeneraAnd so Disco Elysium got its "spiritual successor" which is some Reddit ugly femoid simulator larping as Disco Elysium
>>721681576>Ghost of Tsushima sequel but with ugly femoid>Disco Elysium sequel but with ugly femoid>Star Wars sequel but with ugly femoid>Hades sequel but with ugly femoid>Witcher sequel but with ugly femoidWhat drive developers to do it?
>>721708242You're mostly right but Melinoe is pretty.
Where's the rape one an anon was making? Where can I find him?
>>721696080No, it comes from this 'old' tweet people make fun ofhttps://x.com/TomJorgenson12/status/1271261948731174913?lang=enOP pic is obviously edited though
>>721701653The end of history is the beginning of Communism in Marxist theory, it's when the new man emerges to begin the communist society from the dredges of late stage capitalism which spawns it.
>>721704879Yes, now the free Palestine movement has revealed how wide spread actual Nazism is and I'm very worried with this trend
>>721709015Complete opposite actually >>721705073
>>721681576>disco elysium type game>...but with a female protagonistway to miss why the game was so relatable to begin with lol
>>721687590what game
Disco Elysium is the western VN equivalent of that Mark Fisher book and the lefty equivalent of Revolt Against the Modern World. If you haven't grown past these things after like 5 months, you should consider that the ability to have opinions does not mean that you necessarily should practice this faculty just because you can.
>>721681576Is that vitiligo
>>721709424>erm you're are opinion is lesser than mine because you dont read highbrow garbage like i do!
>>721709567...yes? Thinking Disco Elysium is this incredible once in a generation miracle is the gaming equivalent of saying that your favourite movies are Pulp Fiction and Taxi Driver.
>>721681901No, Disco Elysium had excellent writing. I never finished the game because it was bland and felt like it dragged on forever but the actual writing was immaculate.
>>721682576Shut the fuck up, pussy.
>>721704243True.But it is better.
>>721681901>This implies Disco Elysium had good writing to begin with.filtered
>>721709730>it's popular so it can't be good
>>721709456jesus fucking christ
>>721709129this lol, so many of these disco-like games keep using female mcs... tiresome
>>721705089The gameplay of these Weather Factory games are never fun or engaging on any level.They stand and fall solely on the player's interest in their lore.As I understand it, Book of Hours drops all pretense and is essentially just a text sorting simulator.
>>721709424>lefty equivalent of Revolt Against the Modern World?
>>721681576i cant wait to read reddit posts about how this game is great and the original was never really that good
>>721709456Pretty sure that's face paint
>>721708242>Disco Elysium sequelThis is not a Disco Elysium sequel.
>>721710153he means on the girl on the chair.
>>721709872Esoteric Ebb has a male PC.Although I don't think it has released yet.
>>721710153>>721710192now that I look at it, it seems like paint still. its on their clothing too
>>721681576How many of the original disco devs are working on it? The art direction seems to be similar.
>>721681576>subreditor
>>721681576>>721682629If people hate to edit screenshots to try and shit on it before its even out it means they feel threatened, why?
So, let's check up on these.>ZA/UMThread related. Looks bad.>LongdueLooks even worse. The writing is absolute reddit.>Dark MathOriginally had the most potential out of these first three but they had the brilliant idea of changing it to third person perspective, making it so that it visually looks awful because the textures are clearly not ready for it>Summer EternalLocked in an Eternal legal battle with the Nepobaby CEO from Longdue. Getting less and less likely to see the light of day by the week.>Red InfoContinued radio silence.On the other hand, Rue Valley is coming out in less than two months. That might be alright for a Disco inspired game.
>>721682541you crutch hard on blaming white people for what minorities do to deflect noticingshootings, pedophilia, brainrot, "critical theory", and now cringe culture
>>721681576>YouFuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.Get kidnapped, get kidnapped, get kidnapped, get kidnapped
>>721687590How is this guy possibly gonna make a game that isn't a grindfest? Just doesn't seem possible.
>>721710361>Rue Valley>a game about dealing with mental illnessYeah, no, miss me with that shit
>>721692785based
>>721710361That's impressive. One game spawned so many branches of mental illness, vying for continuation.Like Morrowind and C0DA/MK.
>>721710658Isn't that what Disco Elysium is about as well?
>>721694842Esoteric Ebb does look like the most interesting Disco clone. The demo managed to do something interesting with the formula (mixing D&D and politics) while also being genuinely funny. I'm really hoping they the dev doesn't fuck it up.
>>721681576KINOOOOO
>>721681576gotta pander hard
>>721706159>Clam Man 2.DE-like and pretty funny based on the demo. I'm surprised how long the game is taking to release, though.
>>721687590>>721709309>Traveling By Night. Made by Weather Factory who are pretty much legendary for narrative games and worldbuilding, especially if you like spooky-conspiracy alt history, usually from the Victorian era onward. The browser game >Fallen Londonwas where they made their mark, but the devs also worked on a number of other games like >Sunless Sea (+ expansion)but once they struck out on their own studio Weather Factory their big titles are >Cultist Simulator probably the best example of "ludonarrative consonance" in recent memory in that you're dropped into game mechanics and a story you don't really understand, but as you learn one you learn the other, and learning how to play mirrors the thematic initiation into the higher mysteries of the vague esotericism / lovecraftian horror in the setting. >Book of Hours is their most recent title which adds building management as an occult Librarian in the 30s in charge of a house, library, and all its secrets. More "visual' than Cultist Sim which is a lot of cards and text and while Book of Hours has a lot of text, the more expansive visual experience does really well. >Traveling at Nightis isometric, and takes place in a alt-history in their "Secret Histories" world of the previous 2 games, but in the Cold War era. So its like Disco Elysium / Planescape Torment and is likely to mix the depth of both with their unique storytelling and setting which is either very much your thing or very much not, with its occultism inspirations and fuckloads of text. For me I'm certainly interested more than some other Disco Elysium-alikes given that WEather Factory have already proven themselves on the setting, writing, and mechanics so they're expanding certain mechanics rather than trying to "get" what people liked about DE and make a knockoff.All their games also support Linux native, and if you buy them at/near launch you get ALL future DLC expansions for freE!
>>721693864Oh fuck it looks like a WEG
>>721711485Wasn't there some creator leaving clusterfuck in the background? Or am I mixing them up with someone else?
>>721682830The original Disco was full of meme replies and references like this too, let's not pretend it's anything other than imitation. Where you'll actually be able to notice a decline is in the overall story and themes.
>>721710068Evola's Revolt. Babby's first chuddy book. Fisher's book occupies the same position on the left.
>>721711668it's sad how obvious it becomes most people talking about disco elysium have never actually played it
>>721711549Hm? Maybe I'm missing something but I didn't think so. Could be someone else. Weather Factory is a tiny studio and a husband and wife team are the primary creatives I think. The only leaving i recall was when they left the other studio, Failbetter Games that made Fallen London and Sunless Sea (and since then Sunless Skies, Mask of the Rose) and struck out on their own to make Cultist Simulator and everything newer independently.
>>721681576>disco elysium>good writingredditors will really believe you're nietzsche the moment you use longer words in a verbose way
>>721711816>The only leaving i recall was when they left the other studio, Failbetter Games that made Fallen London and Sunless Sea (and since then Sunless Skies, Mask of the Rose) and struck out on their own to make Cultist Simulator and everything newer independently.That's it. I'm misremembering it.
>>721681576>what if we made Disco Elysium, but Reddit.
>>721711981Disco Elysium is already reddit
disco elysium players are in top 3 most delusional fans, along with nintendo and e33 players
>>721690848We get it, you hate reading, you never beat DE and you play gacha
>>721710361Hopefully, summer eternal and Red Info will have a man as their mc, all these female mcs are annoying and out of place.
>>721711749Just like a real philosophical text!
>>721697221Where in ROLE PLAYING GAME is implied that there need to be a combat system?
>>721712050How is this Reddit?
>>721681765>fascistI love how this little word is the biggest tell that you are looking at leftoid propaganda, at how the entire thing can be safely discarded into the trash.
those liberal devs FUCKS praised Marx and Engels during a reward event.from this very minute game was unwishlisted.
>>721705089No. Its "cosy game" shit but instead farms and pets you study books and there is no pressure or enemies or time limits
>>721712539You absolute retard, the devs the praised Marx and Engels got fired and their IP got stolen. This is by an entire different set of people.
>>721709129thisWomen don't even play video games, making them protags is in 99% pushed by DEI or by the Simp leading developer wanting a shoutout from Anita Saarkisian (see Druckman)
>>721693637I'm surprised there's no straight up Disco Elysium 2.
>>721712483frustrated cucks upset about politics despite being in the bell curve is the very definition of reddit
>>721712290Summer Eternal might as well have a woman MC. It will be shit.I bet Red Info's game won't even end up being a Disco-like.
>Disco Elysium>but you play as some ugly Karendropped
>>721710246Ok I think you're mistaking the white stuff as a substance when it is just a lighting effect.
>>721705073Fukuyama got paid by US State Department to write that book btwBasically neoliberals retroactively making up sources for their ideology. Or to use the vidya terms, it's the AssCreed Shadows situation
>>721681576You can just play Disco Elysium then, right?
>>721682707>Nolte argued that fascism functioned at three levels: in the world of politics as a form of opposition to Marxism, at the sociological level in opposition to bourgeois values, and in the "metapolitical" world as "resistance to transcendence">Nolte defined the relationship between fascism and Marxism as "Fascism is anti-Marxism which seeks to destroy the enemy by the evolvement of a radically opposed and yet related ideology and by the use of almost identical and yet typically modified methods, always, however within the unyielding framework of national self-assertion and autonomy">Nolte's conclusion was that fascism was the great anti-movement: it was anti-liberal, anti-communist, anti-capitalist, and anti-bourgeois.In other words fascism was a third positionist ideology for people who could imagine a future neither under the aegis of the anglo-american liberal-capitalist bourgeois empire nor within the framework of the soviet union or any sort of communism.Case in point, Pierre Drieu La Rochelle.>In Drieu's political writings, he argued that the parliamentary system (the gouvernement d'assemblée of the French Third Republic) was responsible for what he saw as the "decadence" of France (economic crisis, declining birth rates, etc.). In his essays "Le Jeune Européen" ("European Youth", 1927) and "Genève ou Moscou" ("Geneva or Moscow", 1928), Drieu La Rochelle advocated a strong Europe and denounced the "decadent materialism" of democracy. He believed that a federal Europe could bolster a strong economic and political union isolated from the imperialist Russians and Americans; in 1939 he came to believe that only Nazi Germany could deliver such an autarkian promise.
>>721712912The game mocks those frustrated cucks, somehow reddit (as midwits) got it the other way around and labeled it like some pro-communism gospel because a dev thanked Marx at the game awards but the point of disco elysium is stop worrying about all that shit, those ideologies were dead already years ago and will never apply again because people have more important things to do in their life than deal with ideological resentment.
>>721694987>Similar words are:>ZionistOy vey!
>>721711668Was it, really? There's certainly a shitload of Scooter references, which is both based and will fly right over your head if you're not a Euro who used to do drugs to this stuff, but other than that, what gets referenced a lot?
>>721713697I remember a DMX reference
>>721713390We will be retarded?
>>721713506Tl;dr fascism is authoritarian communism
>>721713506Roger Griffin also said some interesthing things about it.>Griffin's theory, set out first in The Nature of Fascism in 1991, and more recently in Fascism: An Introduction to Comparative Fascist Studies (2017), offers a heuristically useful ideal type of fascism as a form of revolutionary organic nationalist movement, or palingenetic ultranationalism. For Griffin, fascism directly mobilises popular energies or works through an elite to eventually achieve the cultural hegemony of new values and the total rebirth of the 'ultranation', whether conceived as a historic nation-state or as a race or ethnos, from what it defines as the present state of decadence. Fascism is an ideology that has assumed a large number of specific national permutations and several distinct organizational forms.>Palingenetic ultranationalism is a definition of "true fascism" proposed by political theorist Roger Griffin. The phrase was first coined by Griffin in his 1991 book The Nature of Fascism. A key element is the belief that fascism can be defined by what Griffin posits in his book to be the true core myth of fascism, namely that of the need for a social revolution to occur first before a "national rebirth", palingenesis, could then take place.As Griffin puts it,>the mythical horizons of the fascist mentality do not extend beyond this first stage. It promises to replace gerontocracy, mediocrity and national weakness with youth, heroism and national greatness, to banish anarchy and decadence and bring order and health, to inaugurate an exciting new world in place of the played-out one that existed before, to put government in the hands of outstanding personalities instead of non-entities.>His book, Modernism and Fascism, locates the mainspring of the fascist drive for national rebirth in the modernist bid to achieve an alternative modernity, which is driven by a rejection of the decadence of 'actually existing modernity' under liberal democracy or tradition.
>>721682707fascist just means the marriage between private business and government, but the government is the "1950s" husband that can will backhand the wife for what he perceives her doing something retarded, and when she complains about the abuse the husband just response "me ne frego"
>>721712810I was not aware of that, got fired for even worst ppl then. Im not an omnigod who monitors eveything in between u fuckbag.
>>721713779Communism is already authoritarian, retard
>>721683746> Zanzibart...forgive me....> Fumplestiltskin drops an item on death> Its shit
>>721687590>fallen london dev.i fucking KNEW i recognised this vibe.
>>721687590Oooh, this looks crisp.Given that Weather Factory is fantastically shit at designing gameplay and DE is a purely narrative experience this plays to their strengths pretty well.
>>721713358I thought that at first but it doesn't line up. The droplets on the chest. The weird pattern the back of the other girls dress. The way its on the pant leg. Look near the belt. It has to be paint
>>721684160>This text based adventure game "likes to hear itself talk"What the fuck are you talking about>You interact with some fucking bum in Disco Elysium and he has the eloquence of a Liberal Arts MajorYou are anally annihilated over one character you didn't get and you've extrapolated that out to the entire game
>>721681576This game feels like a publicity stunt designed to piss everyone off
>>721714278>This text based adventure game "likes to hear itself talk"This racing game is so pretentions it really likes to show you its own cars
>>721713840But what we currently have is exactly that except the private banking system is the husband, so current day 'Facism' can be described as feminist women's rights activism pushing for the wife (Government) to have more of a say in the relationship
>>721714451> OH MY GOD, WHY IS THIS GAME FLAUNTING ALL THE COOL SPORTS CARS IT HAS! FUUUCCKK!!!> ITS NOT MY FAULT THAT I ONLY OWN A SHITTY 1990 TOYOTA THAT BARELY WORKS! THE ECONOMY IS SHIT, EVERYONE IS LIVING HAND TO MOUTH! I'M NOT POOR, I'M A PRODUCT OF THE TIMES! ITS NOT MY FAAAAAAAAUUUULLLLT!!!
>>721681576>>721681765Is this from the just revealed ZAUM game?
There's this funny little story about how Suzerain's UI redesign is clearly inspired by DE.
>>721683351What you concidet funny, i say Lisa the painful, and disco are ONLY funny games existing. Its fin line of cringe and zp absolutely falls to cringe side.
>>721682489Gen-xers who will then be accused of being millennials by 4chan zoomers
Text adventures are for narcissists who like to hear themselves talk anyway.
>>721713765Shows you the level of intelligence these people are operating at
>>721702595>WoW.Holy fucking shit lmao
>>721681901Disco Elysium is extremely overrated, it gives this aura of im 16 and this is deep.
>>721717236No, that's everything you post. So tryhard and incoherent.
>>721710340
>>721681901nah DE was really good. this board is filled w retarded faggots that dont want to admit it for some reason
>>721682371that's what i was thinking when i first saw the trailer, is it made by the original writers or by some new writers that the company hired after kicking the og writers
>>721681576>disco wokelysium>good writingAnon, just because a game has a lot of reading doesn't mean it's good
>>721681576>this gotta be edited right guys>this has to be fake lol dumb liberals and their onions writingPutting the actual game aside, is everyone in this thread fucking brain damaged? How do you look at this and not instinctively notice the out of place font, let alone realise how bad and obvious of rage bait this is? The same room temperature IQ scum that clamors for "more intelligent writing" in games. Holy shit.
>>721681765>city-state small town blah blah politicsFucking BOOOOOORIIIIIIIINGThe most boring part of the first game was all the city of townsville crap they wanted you to remember. Shit put me to sleep then, and it's doing it now. Stop putting so much emphasis on boring shit in your games.
>>721681901Truth nuke Disco Elysium is commie tranny trash
>>721692189Cult Sim, Book of Hours, and Traveling by Night are all connected but you don't really need to play any one in order. Traveling by Night is a book in BoH and CS. They are connected because they take place in the same world, not through any real narrative reason.
Let me know if I got it right>Disco Elysium ownership goes to publisher/parent company>Original leads are gone>A bunch of minor contributors are fighting like raccoons at a trash disposal for the "from the developers of Disco Elysium" tagline
>>721695871It's a husband & wife combo, there's no way the guy's replacing his wife for the art. Imagining it happening is cracking me up though.
>>721722686Would you art cuck your wife?
>>721714684The OP image is a meme edit but yes.
>>721721887>Trannies out of nowhereUnironically rent-free.
>>721712539Understandable but fairly sure the devs who said that were the ones who ousted the original creatives, and then THOSE devs got ousted too. That's true communism in action right there.
>>721722881>reverse art cucking your wife>sorry honey but I'm taking you off of art duty, Tyrone is just better at conveying the deep and complex emotions of LinouWhat a grim scenario.
>>721722372see>>721693637
>>721723282I'm uncomfortable now that you have introduced black men to the joke.Even if you wanted to make the cucking joke more literal there was no reason for the gay ass shit you just dropped into the conversation.
>>721723602I was just making it as bad as possible, cuckolds are the worst after all.
>>721702595>KOTOR, Morrowind, and WoWthose might have better worldbuilding or lore, maybe, but these are all pretty much high fiction RPG and those aren't the most apt for comparison with DEthis game has better writing in the same sense that a book would have good writing, the one viable comparison I sort of see is usually planescape
>>721705073>When talking about multipolarity and super power competition the opposite term is used - The Return of History.So THAT'S what Le Retour shit in DE was all about! Holy fuck!
>>721709424>Disco Elysium is the western VN equivalent of that Mark Fisher book>the lefty equivalent of Revolt Against the Modern Worldyou should consider that the ability to have opinions does not mean that you necessarily should practice this faculty just because you can.
>>721710361Kurvitz Loyalist reporting in. Got my home-printed copy of Sacred and Terrible Air hugged between Dostoevsky and Marx.
>>721711749>have never actually played itI've personally played it, a lot of the dialog is rather stupid shit if you start to derail conversations.Hell, all inner dialog shit when you start getting into an ideology is even more corny than what was posted there.
>>721681576>I want Disco Elysium without the good writingThat's just Disco Elysium though.
>>721681576>DE>good writing Nostalgic ramblings of a literal commie that's physically addicted to booze is not good writing for anybody besides braindead followers of lefotid breadtubers.
>>721712483I hope you aren't presenting that screenshot as evidence of the writers' actual sympathies. The accented ö in "wörking man" is part of the deliberately ridiculous typing quirk given to Harry's inner fascist side.
>>721726831>we le made the biggest racist in the game also the biggest nigger in the game, what now chuds xDThe writer was 13, and this was deep.
>>721681901The writing is mostly good, but the story is the weak part. You almost do nothing after your first day or two until you are spoonfed a major clue, the case solves itself. And the phasmid thing was cheap and tacked on.
>>721683921There's actually no such thing as good writing!
>>721727509>The writing is mostly goodIn my experience with it, about 20% of the writing was acceptable. The rest was either mediocre background filler or downright horrible myspace ranting.
>>721702595>WoWYou can't be serious
>>721681576>I want Disco Elysium without the good writingthat would be disco elysium
>>721723478That is not accurate, though. Most of those have proved to be scams at this point.
>>721682831i can't sorryvideogames are not art btw
>>721724048>this game has better writing in the same sense that a book would have good writingIt really doesn't. You'd have to have read books to understand that, but it's okay.
>>721728092>fascism is when team I don't like have power >:(
>>721711681>Fisher's book occupies the same position on the left.What are you talking about you complete fucking moron, Evola was a literal nazi fascist
>>721717236DE does do some good stuff before instantly shooting itself in the foot and going full redditor for no reason. Idk if it only had like 1 good writer tardwrangling a dozen insufferable redditors but the writing quality is all over the place.
>>721709129I can't imagine anything more annoying that having to read through all the different thoughts inside of a chick's head
>>721695994Im being hyperbolic because you need to spam the same "I want to wake up plox" prompt like 15 times. Its genuinely tryhard as fuck writing and has the same substance as those pop-sci articles google shills me about how crazy it is that we are made of dead stars or whatever.
>>721681901I've always wanted to check out DE because I desperately want vidya to have proper "classics" and I think those are usually more likely to happen in a production environment that sits between indie games and AA studios. But every time I talk to my friends about the game and pretend I am bothered by the potential political inclinations of the developers (which is something I am actually ok with) they always hit me with "oh don't worry, the game makes fun of everyone", which just tells me the game is at best, completely harmless and has nothing to say, or at worst heavily loaded with the contemporary streak of "post-irony" that plagues most literature circles. Thanks for reading my blog.
>>721730407>which just tells me the game is at best, completely harmless and has nothing to say, or at worst heavily loaded with the contemporary streak of "post-irony" that plagues most literature circles.its both simultaneously but more of the latter. The writers definitely lack confidence in what they are writing since it has that same amateur writer thing where everything is super unsubtle and it hides behind absurdity/irony all the time. The main thing I hated about DE is the game can't decide if it wants to be serious or absurd parody so it alternates between the two constantly and as a result I just didn't really care about anything it had to say.
>>721714590 The essence of Fascism is when the government and taxpayer-subsidized megacorps keep sucking-off eachother behind the scenes via legislature that lets them have unlimited legal power with no actual responsibilites for their actions. Everything else is just window dressing that makes Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany pretty much indistinguishable from one another once you'd read their founding mission statements.
>>721692260Ok midwit.
>>721703747>Zoomers still desperate to shift the blameGrim
>>721709129Even before the original creators got the boot, a female protagonist was always planned for the follow-up game. I believe they wanted to make her pregnant too, which is lol-tier.
>>721711981DE is the most Reddit game I can think of
>>721711549You're thinking of Sunless Skies, which had the excellent writer of Seas leave and subsequently the games writing turned into reddit-tier shit.
>>721681901Every character in Disco Elysium feels less like a human and more like a propaganda piece that just swallowed a political manifesto written by Reddit user
>>721681576this might as well be a random game, since the writer director are not involved
>>721718907Faggot fanboy.
>>721702595>wow
>>721687590Is Book of Hours good? I loved the first ~5 hours of Cultist Sim so much, but the game got so boring so fast.
>>721682483>inb4 planescapeWell, yes.
>>721681576Disco Elysium was good, but what I actually want is a game like Fallen London without the autistic grinding and needing to pay like $500 now for all of the story. SS and SK were that but you still needed to grind like a chink.
>>721702595>WoWRemind me again, how many layers of secret masterminds were we at by the end?
>>721716281t. 74 IQ muscovite.
>>721714278Is there a mod that lets you submit to Cuno?
>>721700397>>721709773Sounds like an awful game, then. Why would a video game, a medium primarily distinguished and defined by interactivity, try to ape another medium instead of focusing on what makes its own form unique? I guess it's really just a visual novel with tacked on gameplay.These descriptions are reminiscent of all those shitty Quantic Dream / David Caige movie games, where sometimes you push a button, but mostly just watch the "game".
>>721730407Why don't you JUST play the fucking game and THEN make conclusions? How about that? What's this feminine indecisiveness based on other's opinions? "Erm, I thought this game was about grunckly, but Steve said that it's about crumply, so I made my conclusions while haven't even starting the game".
>>721722372That's right, Jay!
>>721697167>[thing], not with [X], but [Y]I am so fucking tired of this shit
>>721682576I don't pretend to be an arbiter of "taste" let alone "good", I just know what I like. And this garbage isn't it - it barely qualifies as a video game. And that's all that matters, faggot.On your next go around, don't get a degree in literature.
>>721732142>Every character in Disco Elysium feels less like a human and more like a propaganda piece that just swallowed a political manifesto written by Reddit userExplain what propaganda piece does working class woman representIf you say "communism" you haven't played the game.
>>721682707>what being a fascist meansUh I can't define it... but I know it when I see it!
>>721732751if you want an honest answer then its because the devs want to smurf on the shitter server. The lead writer is literally a failed novelist and the other studio founder got in trouble in his home country for attempting to subvert a state owned newspaper company to post communist propaganda (no Im not kidding). The backlash was so bad that both of the founders became too controversal to engage with so nothing they would have written would go anywhere. Instead they go all in on Disco Elysium which has about as much gameplay as a CYOA book I would purchase as a kid.
>>721732142Yes, and that's clearly intentional. The political characters are representations of different ideologies and positions in society from a Marxist point of view. They are intentionally written to be that way, not to be accurate, realistic representations of real people.>>721733152>working class womanIt's almost like it's in the name.
>>721681576IT HAPPENS TO EVERY FUCKING FRANCHISE I LIKE>game comes out. inherently masculine. massive success.>sequel gets announced.>queue female girlboss. shit writing.>franchise dies.FOR FUCK SAKE
>>721733614If you want investments you do DEI. It's that simple.Our Jewish overlords want to force behavior and you'll be happy about it.
>>721681576DE is about the corroding power of nostalgia and longing for a bygone past. The political shit is on top of that.Not a surprise that /v/ can't grasp it. Most of you are, after all, brainrotten /pol/ obsessed pedos.
>>721730407how about you pick the thing up instead of blogposting you ninny
>>721733803"About" is a very strong word. Culprit is very self-contained, and Dolores is technically missable. Nostalgia is a thematic element at best, as seen in remnants of communism and demented hobos. There are more stories and they are very eclectic, but political angle is present like half the time. Political shit is "on top" because that's what's the plot is, it's not simple trappings like with Watch Dogs or Division. Unless you wanna say that labor disputes escalating to murder is daily shit.
>>721733614Disco Elysium is the most woman game I've played. It's a game about nattering on for hours about drivel.
>>721681576>playing as a man of woeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>721733803>we deconstructed nostalgia, longing for the past is wrong and bad>but also the future is also awful and bleak with nothing but despair to look forward tothank you, very cool!
>>721683681lol no its not about muh feels you idiot
>>721683681Good writing leaves you with something after the fact. A thought, a feeling; some reason to revisit the story after you've completed it. Bad writing is something you forget as you're experiencing it
>>721712176it sounds like you play anime games
>>721681576>*gulp* so that just happened >what a fuckcrustable day this has been
Daily reminder to always pirate leftoid garbage made by literal ex-politoburo nepobabbies who are only nostalgic for a totalitarian dystopia because their parents were the ones calling the shots in those times.
>>721731464Shift deez nutz
>>721694842I remember the dev of this posting long long ago in gamedev threads asking how to make his UI less like disco elysium or if he should just embrace it.The entire thread and myself told him to embrace it and im glad to see how far he's come.
>>721681576>good writingHuh?
>>721682707peter thiel is quit literally the anti christ if you take the time to read anything about him
Honestly this game looks fine. I don't care about any of the behind the scenes drama
DE has good writing.I just couldn't get into it because i found all the self-flagellation surrounding the MC tiresome.>I AM LE BROKEN MANOk can i get the story of a different man?
>>721681576Sounds like something my gf wrote
>>721690846lmao is that what you took away from what he said?
>>721690815What he didn't write was "by people who are intelligent and have a modicum of taste."
4chan should make a Disco Elysium style game but with anime girls
>>721681576based ludo>>721682629forced writing
>>721733614It's draining, and they don't bother making a franchise that is female-led from the beginning because they know it'll flop so make a male one female in order to have a chance at success, but all that happens is the franchise flops.
>>721681576>>I want Disco Elysium without the good writingSo Disco Elysium?
>>721682830>Jamrock Hobo>Lastly: While I have some genuine praise for its mechanics & aesthetics, ZA/UM’s Zero Parades aims to be a narrative-driven game. It stands and falls with its writing. >And yet, there are some dialogue options that can single-handedly make someone uninstall the game.i will become the notorious Spee D. Reader only because the protagonist is a girl, i need to know the lore of my faps>>721711668No it wasn't, and it never got this bad
>>721682831Didn't play Disco Elysium yet and im curious but Xenogears
>>721710452>shootingsWdym? School shootings are literally carried out mostly by white kids
>>721744049>but all that happens is the franchise flops.???
>>721702595Not a single time in history did WoW have good writing you troglodyte.
>>721681576>Disco Elysium>good writing*ahem**clears throat*AHAHAHAHAHAHGWGHWHGAGHAGHAGWHAHAGAGAGAGAZEHAHAHAHAHAAHHGEHGWGAGAHHAAHAHGAGGWGGAGU(GGIGIGUGUGU
>>721693864These star puns are pissing me off
>commie indie studio gets legally overtaken by some money lenders>entire DE fanbase be like NOO THIS IS LE BAD WE NEED TO SUPPORT HECKIN' WHOLESOME CLASS CONSCIOUS GAME STUDIO OWNERS FROM EXPROPRATION!
>>721682876damn anonyou murdered him in 24 secondsbased btw
Idk commies think that working class people don't hate authority, bureaucrats, and any attempts to fuck with their livelihood, let alone ideology and speeches
>>721746778They literally do like all of those things though. If they didn't, they would try to establish an order without them.
>>721746683it didnt get overtaken though? The co-founder stabbed everyone else in the back. The same co-founder who funded the game by selling his ferrari lmao
>>721739449I accept your concession
>>721746932Just because some medieval tier peasants fell for it a century ago doesn't mean anyone with actual marketable skills nowadays would
>>721682756Not only is the scene where you pet the corpse's hair kino, but when you are interrogating Klaasje, if she gets to a point where she starts talking about the man's eyes and hair you can kindly inform her that you too have touched his hair
>>721711668There were many quips but most of them were significantly more transformative (like measurehead's we wuz kangs line on Disco)Also, most of the truly retarded quippy crap was hidden between a streak of retarded dialogues one had to go through (like garte and the cock carousel)
>>721682629Good. Now we can start pretending that the OP actually had good writing.
>>721748342Measurehead never claimed his race ruled, he states that whites did (and praises them for their eugenic practices and war-waging) and now they are degenerating into homosexuality and bad music enjoyers. All he says about his race is that they broke off from a larger black race, found the islands before the occidentals, and that there will be a semeno-areopagite suprastate, likely through eugenics, that will conquer the world.
>>721681576This is why you should avoid working with jews as much as possible>>721681901Retard
>>721746935impressive dedication to the communist bitI kneel
>>721750071>This is why you should avoid working with jews as much as possiblethen DE would have never happened to begin with.
>>721750071Was the guy who screwed them over Jewish? I thought he was a fellow countryman.
>>721732664Kupyansk status?
>>721687590Esoteric Ebb seemed promising from what I played of the demo.
>>721701306Myceil what you did there.
