>>721716670
This is why you dl dont torrent

>>721716670
Imagine living in a country that cares about this shit (lol) and then not using a VPN (double lol)

>be a pirate
>scared of stormy seas
its not for the limp wristed

DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE

some jewish lawyer sending you a letter making demands is not your problem. use it as toilet paper

>he's not esl from third world country
skill issue

these letters mean jack shit. theyre empty threats and not actual court subpoenas for an ongoing case. usually written in complex legalese by lawyers to intentionally trick recipients into thinking theyre cooked

i think some places take piracy more seriously than others (japan), usually it means jack shit and you can wipe your ass with the letter. even if youre from one of such countries, use a vpn or something

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>>721716670

German DMCA jannies are so funny.

>torrenting
>without a VPN
>in 2025
a fool and his money are soon parted

>>721717489
we both know what you are really using that vpn for jared

>>721717254
>these letters mean jack shit.
If he lives in Germany they absolutely do, this has been taken to court twice and ended the same way: The letter demands were 100% legal and by not paying it they were found liable for even more fines.

Germany has the worst laws in the world in regards to torrenting.

>>721717489
In my country nobody gives a fuck, and I'm 100% sure the politicians are also pirating so it's unlikely they will ever take it seriously and I would ever get into trouble for this. One of the perks for living in a shithole I guess.

>throw letter away
>???
>profit

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>wouldn't happen in my shithole

>>721717621
I'm sure that was in the past in Germany, because one of the law firms were sending those letters en masse which cost them their license.

>>721717621
read the entirety of the post. some countries are more rigorous, i named japan because ive read about people going to jail for pirating nintendo stuff

i live in brazil and one big law firm sent these sorts of letters en masse for people pirating a rambo movie. they were written in complex (for illiterate retards) legalese, mentioned 'ongoing extrajudicial court case', so on. retards shat their pants, some surely paid. the charges are always mindblowingly high (like 2200 usd for pirating 60 usd content) because the hit rate is so low

they stopped doing that because it simply isnt worth it, the scam caught on quick and no one paid shit anymore. again, if youre from one of the few countries where that can land you into actual, legal (meaning not just an empty threat) trouble, use a vpn

>>721717658
I'm sure politicians and normal citizens are both treated as equals by the law and government, especially in shithole countries.

>>721717779
Nope, most recent case was last year. These are still going, they're now called "yellow letters" and you are fucked if you receive one. Either pay it or get fucked 10x harder

>>721717489
>a fool and his money are soon parted
Yeah by buying a ScamPN

>>721717845
>i live in brazil
Cool, that's completely irrelevant to OP possibly living in Germany where these are 100% legal and have been taken to court multiple times, and have been iterated by council as recent as 2023 as being 100% legal and binding.

>>721716947
>yes goy filesharing is bad
shalom

>>721717845
>I live in Brazil
Then why are you acting like an expert over German law you retard? No one gives a shit what Brazilian law says and what Brazilian law firms did when you get a yellow letter in the mail in Berlin. Germany's piracy extortion letters are legally valid and have been challenged and upheld in court

DDL and you wont have to worry about "distrubtion of pirated materials" bullshit because youre just downloading, as a user

test

>2500€ for literal wokeslop

Damn that's expensive

>>721717943
>most countries not persecuting consumers of piracy and going strictly after piracy distributors/sellers is completely irrelevant to OP possibly living in one of the very few countries that prosecute people for torrenting games
retard

>>721717851
You usually get them for movies though. My cousin got 2 because he's a retarded and torrents the newest blockbusters without VPN

>>721717845
>if youre from one of the few countries where that can land you into actual, legal trouble
What other countries are like Germany when it comes to pirating?

>live in the true German speaking country
>can pirate everything because the government introduced additional tax on storage devices to "please" the copyright holders
get fucked, piefkes

>>721718021
>DDL and you wont have to worry about "distrubtion of pirated materials" bullshit because youre just downloading, as a user
So long as your DDL source isn't using 1ficher. They have been taken to court in Germany and lost, they now hand over download logs for pirated material to Germany authorities if these notices are brought.

>>721718112
>What other countries are like Germany when it comes to pirating?
Japan. Pretty much no one else comes even close to the insanity of Germany. Canada has notice-and-notice which means ISPs need to send you ooga-booga letters if a copyright holder flags your IP but they don't actually do anything, there's no recourse. You'd have to be so large scale you get hit as a criminal enterprise.

>>721718112
probably japan, since they're real autistic about copyright
probably UK, since they're a north korea tier police state

>>721718128
?
It's encrypted by https, there are no valid "download logs"

>germany
He is fucked, kcd2 devs are poolish, and poles are like the niggers of europe they are sacred and get unironic reparations from germany even today

pirating a polish game is the euro version of george floyd

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>File sharing
>in an EU country
Hahahahahahahah what a dumbass. this is why ruskiepedos and brazillhues are leagues ahead in the piracy race, no company can touch them, and when they try to, their governments dont even bother to oblige.

>>721718225
Wait do you think https means a website doesn't know your IP downloaded a file? Like do you believe if someone tossed up CP on a fucking https website it's just impossible to track down?

>>721718257
Nigger I'm Bulgarian, an EU member country, and I never got charged or fined for pirating. Everyone here, including the government, pirates software. No ISP is gonna give a shit if you use a torrent or seed.

>>721718225
Nigger what? Do you understand what HTTPS does? Your IP is still clear as day to the hosting provider requesting every file. HTTPS is transit encryption

>>721718257
Being proud to live in a shithole because laws are unenforced always felt like a weird brag thirdy bro. Makes you worry what other laws are unenforced

>>721718312
>>721718430
That's not what I said. The data is encrypted so the website would have no idea what I'm doing or if I'm downloading anything

>>721718257
This only happens in Germany, nowhere else in EU

i probably got 5 of these letters

you literally just throw them in the trash and pretend you never seen it, its not the police its some jew layer trying to trick you

they just give up if you ignore them because they know not a single court will be on their side, they just catch tech illiterate zoomers and boomers who play this shit

>>721718225
>2025
>Still being this digitally illitterate
Fucking zoomer back to your cellphone.

>>721718452
>Being proud to live in a shithole because laws are unenforced always felt like a weird brag thirdy bro.
"Shit nigger I may have got everything stolen by a motorbike mugger squad and keep shitting my guts out thanks to my cholera laden water but I did pirate DBZ without my ISP knowing so really I am superior to you"

>>721717943
Nigger read the whole post before replying

I wish I lived in a country where law enforcement is idle enough to actually go after nerds in their bedrooms (actually I don't).

>be a slav
>pirate everything under the sun
>nobody fucking cares
feels good

>poorfags are so stupid and poor that they can't afford a <$5/month VPN
HAAH WAAW

>>721718452
What am I gonna do, faglord? I didn't choose to be born here

>>721718523
>goes to prison for typing the letter N

>>721718609
>Boils tap water to ensure he doesn't die when thirsty

>>721716670
Just don't seed and you'll be ok

>>721716670
>€
Found the problem.

>>721716670
Post is fake or posted by the devs btw.

>>721718559
There actually is no country like that.
The ones enforcing bullshit laws on neets are just ignoring the larger lawbreakers because it's too much work.
>Hospital full of jeets and pakis raping patients to death
Not enough police resources
>Teenage girl looked at a stonetoss comic online
SEND THE ENTIRE PRECINT

>>721717774
Hell yeah brother, finally, something that makes me happy to live in latin america

>>721718609
>Goes to sleep to the soothing lullaby of favella gunshots like he has since he was a baby

>>721718609
At least you made an active decision to type N. I strongly disagree with the erosion of free speech in the EU but at least I know that a policeman is more likely to help me not get mugged than mug me himself.

>>721718397
There is no law in bolgaria, its full of gypsys no one cares about copyright

any denmark bros here? does this happen in denmark too?

>>721718570
>>be a slav(e)
My condolences

>>721718559
Kek, go to Bongistan where they can't (or don't want to) stop gang rapes of kids but will send 4 cops to your house for making a social media comment.

>>721717254
>€
he doesn't live in america, his government will probably go after him for it if he doesn't pay up

>>721718731
Yes, I'm sure officer Mohamed will help you catch his cousin Mahmud.

>>721717489
You know they can tell your using a VPN and your VPN is legally obligated to say who you are if asked, right?

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>why are you pirating, we dont do that IN GERMANY

>>721718762
No. This is a 100% uniquely German insanity

>>721718841
>if asked
If presented with a warrant. Not if receiving a call from some rando.

>>721718762
L I T E R A L L Y Germany only, no where else in the EU does this.

UK and Germany are literal police states where governments are literal China tier

>>721718971
Once The UK National ID is phased in and they roll out their British WeChat equivalent the UK will officially leapfrog China.

>>721718801
>t. westcuck whose whole life is dominated by corporations

>>721718559
>>721718971
it's not the government or law enforcement doing it
it's independent bored lawyers trying to jew you out of your money
just don't fucking torrent Avengers Endgame on thepiratebay like a complete retard

>>721716670
Skill issue

>>721718830
I can't tell if you're a thirdy who has somehow never had the misfortune to interact with third world cops or just a sheltered retard posting from his moms house.

>>721718841
>not using Mullvad

>>721719060
and how does that jew lawyer get your IP info without a court order? you dumb faggot the courts and government are literally fucking you over

come to brazil

(do not actually come to Brazil)

>>721718112
I think France is anal about it too. For what it's worth on the other end of the spectrum, I can tell you for sure that in Portugal they really don't give a shit unless you're gong mental with torrenting 24/7, and even still at worst they just lower your DL rate or something.

>>721718950
This is the key, they won't get a warrant. This system is unique fucked, it allows the copyright owner to legally send these extortion letters and they are automatically binding "within reason" (ie, they don't demand a million dollars). But if they need a warrant or anything that requires extra work beyond the initial direct letter, they won't bother. The letter is basically a free money, needing to do more and getting the legal department involved is instant monetary loss since the claim is only a couple thousand

In America that would be a $15,000 fine minimum.

>UK being told on TV to cancel their VPN subscription to "protect the children"

This is so surreal. Do they think a single person savvy enough to use a VPN will listen to 'muh chilluns'?

they can take their demands to court and then the court can make their claims legal and binding. also you can sue your isp for giving out your private data to some law firm without a court order. you think these law firms have the time to take millions of pirates to court? lmao my sweet summer child keep paying every time someone sends you a harshly worded letter because thats all that is. they are fishing for easily scared naive retards who just pay to make it go away. that's their business
>>721719093
also this. vpn's are dirt cheap just make sure to do your research and don't fall for streamer shills so you don't end up with an Israeli owned vpn provider. mullvad is a-ok and so are a few others

>>721718257
I'm Dutch and these people can't do shit to you because that would mean that they'd have to find out your IP and what you personally downloaded which is illegal as fuck.
At worst they ask an ISP to block a torrent site which barely works.They can't touch you personally.

>>721719041
Your whole life is dominated by oligarchs, misha

>>721719275
In America that would be, at WORST, a completely ineffectual letter from your ISP calling you a bad boy.
All those ancient meme lawsuits 25 years ago from Napster all fizzled out, they went no where other than a tard go jumped the gun to represent himself and lost before the other cases were all tossed and caused the RIAA to fuck off

>>721719321
>and so are a few others
is one of those proton or is that one bad

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Meanwhile, in my country the biggest tracker in the country was about to die and when that made all the news a lot of people donated money and shit to make sure it stays alive. It's still alive and thriving. It's Romania, stealing is our passion.

>>721719319
>>721718971
>>721718195
>Germ gets charged for torrenting
>how can I make this about UK
Obsessed?

>>721719039
>UK national ID cards and briitchat
>Let's guarantee Nigel Farage is the next prime minister
Is Keir secretly working for Nigel to kill the labor party?

>>721719435
Based gyps

Wait, so it's just letter from some random lawyer? If it doesn't have a gov stamp, are you even required to read it?

>>721719435
im not Romanina but i use Filelist for over 15 years, its had everything in english

>>721716947
you can torrent, but you shouldn't seed

>>721719471
>Is Keir secretly working for Nigel to kill the labor party?
It's honestly the only thing that makes sense, no leader in UK history has been THIS determined to fuck their own asses in the polls

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>>721719319
Here, have the webm

>>721719409
I've gotten 3 of them from Verizon. My friend has a collection of those emails that he got.

>>721719275
>let me tell you about your cuntry

>>721718195
from the uk and I've never gotten a single complaint for torrenting movies, games anime etc.
then again i dont use the zogged out ISP's like sky, virgin BT etc.

>>721719319
>Do they think a single person savvy enough to use a VPN will listen to 'muh chilluns'?
No, but the government expects they'll bend the knee once VPNs are outright criminalized and they start having banks and credit card providers report payments to any known VPNs. Better get on crypto asap, Britlads

>Germany
>Japan
>torrenting
It's like picking a fight with an East Indies fleet and cries when your ship got buttfucked

>>721718004
DDL is safe, retarded nazi.

>>721719609
BT doesn't give a shit

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Putting the mast up the end of my ass, you are a pirate!

actually Japan has the most fucked up pirate laws in the whole world, you literally might go to prison for downloading anime there

i know weebs will be assmad but Japan is a shithole

>>721718117
Oh right, in my shithole there has been a "reproduction fee" on CDs and shit that funds like the artists' guild or whatever. This has always been retarded, blank CDs are perfectly legal, but there's an arbitrary tax on them that's supposed to compensate for people burning pirated stuff I guess. Nowadays there's not much revenue from it because discs or tapes are effectively extinct so they've been trying to, or maybe already did, put that on other storage devices. SSD tax because you might keep pirated MP3s on it.

>>721718195
UK will go after you for saying nigger on the internet or try to enforce the sully tv loicence, but I don't think I ever heard anything about piracy from there.

>>721719676
Are you from reddit by any chance? No Japan is not a shithole. It isn't black and white. It has shit laws like every country under the sun.

>>721716670
>it wasn't me officer
Charges dropped

>>721719729
>you made a bad comment about muh JAPAN
>are you from reddit?

you faggots are so fucking not self aware its funny

>>721719796
Redditors HATE Japan now. There is zero nuance, JAPAN BAD. They are the opposite of weebs.

>>721719612
back in the day you could put money between postcards and make untraceable small payments like that

>>721719859
how the fuck should i know or care what goes on in reddit?

>>721719697
>Oh right, in my shithole there has been a "reproduction fee" on CDs and shit that funds like the artists' guild or whatever. This has always been retarded, blank CDs are perfectly legal, but there's an arbitrary tax on them that's supposed to compensate for people burning pirated stuff I guess. Nowadays there's not much revenue from it because discs or tapes are effectively extinct so they've been trying to, or maybe already did, put that on other storage devices. SSD tax because you might keep pirated MP3s on it.
Are you from Canada? Because that's the same here and honestly brother that law was a GOOD thing. The government had to implement a system in 2003 for infringement violations due to international trade negotiations we had at the time that required updating the copyright code and opted for that rather than legal penalties on users like Germany. This made piracy effectively "legal" (other than useless letters from your ISP) in terms of punishment at the cost of adding 30 cents to a pack of CDs or $2 to a hard drive. Legitimately the best outcome possible.

>>721719883
>back in the day
Why can't you do that now? Why can't you just post some cash? They send drugs in the post.

>>721718452
>live in a shithole because laws are unenforced

Some laws make sense and some are retarded

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>>721716670
>still use fserv and XDCC bots on IRC
>no random peers logging my IP
>trusted sources that I've been friends with for decades now
I don't know how people can stand torrents.

>>721719883
You can literally write your account ID on an envelope and €5 cash in it and leave it in the mailbox at the Mullvad office to pay for it

>ISP has vowed to never shit on it's customers on behalf of big companies in other countries, and the users are free to utilise the internet however they want
>they'll give the cops all your info if you manage to get in trouble with them, but the ISP isn't going to create red tape and paperwork for itself by being the one to involve police
this is one of the reasons i can never move. it's just too fucking based. one of the first ISPs in the world to mass roll out fibre connections, too, even though it took me about 15 years to upgrade my internet to fiber speeds

well deserved for seeding this slop

>>721719609
>>721719660
Does the UK even have an ISP that isn't cucked or slow? I saw that many of the big names started collecting DNS records recently, I'm sure that has nothing to do with the government trying to crack down on citizens showing the entire world
>Look the police are arresting us for social media posts
>Look the police are helping child rape gangs

>>721719883
>Can I really pay with cash?

>You bet, and please! Stay anonymous all the way. Just put your cash and payment token (randomly generated on our website) in an envelope and send it to us. We accept the following currencies: EUR, USD, GBP, SEK, NOK, CHF, CAD, AUD, NZD.

>>721718841
NordVPN is located in Panama, which has zero data sharing laws or agreements with other countries

>>721720159
>even though it took me about 15 years to upgrade my internet to fiber speeds
My ISP rolled out fiber to the corner of my street 17 years ago, and since then had run nothing but 50mbps ADSL to the houses on this street. They announced to their investors that they plan to only ever lay fiber to new housing developments and, after taking government money on the promise to do so, no longer have any intention or plans to run fiber to existing homes

I fucking LOVE living under monopolies

>>721719981
well you can if the recipient accepts cash in an envelope

>>721719676
Japan always fascinates me how it's draconian IP laws and retarded view of authorship where the sacred integrity of the original work needs to be protected even after the author sold it exists simultaneously with the doujin market operating pretty much in the open.

Hey kids, just a friendly reminder you need to bind your torrent software to the vpn network interface and have a killswitch for the torrent client.

>>721719370
>thinks slav countries = russia
american education

>>721720404
If it's bound to the vpn interface, and vpn disconnects, it can't connect and leak already?

>>721719729
No he's right to some extent, but it's really only a shithole for those who haven't grown to their customs. Japan is pretty rough for any foreigner looking to live there that isn't either rich or earning passive income overseas. Not to mention they lack due process, so you're going to get screwed pretty hard if they even so much as "think" you committed a crime

>>721718712
hes german, its real and hes dumb for not using a vpn to torrent
its very widely known that there are honeypots by shady law firms catching you seeding for over 20 years now
if you didnt get the memo by now youre simply stupid

>>721720247
They're all some variation of fucked thanks to the OSA, but the majority don't give a shit that you pirate. Speed is location dependent, but generally fast.

>>721720078
these guys are legit

>>721720293
that sucks. my ISP had set plans for every community and they stuck to those plans and even sometimes finshed ahead of schedule.
this is with them ALSO going through 3 different ways of trying to get good internet to rural areas, desperate to close up the gaps and give everyone in the province (not counting the indian reservations up north you need to fly to). they failed and just let starlink do the job but they worked their ass off at it while also dealing with the fiber rollout and it's just so fucking impressive to me.

>>721717621
lol, no
>local snoytornies send 10 high gloss letter, first trying ro raie the amount to "voluntarily pay" in three letters, then make it progressively lower each mail
>ignore them all
>they send courtorder about lowest sum, claiming they will now totally sue if I do not comply
>send it back saying "nope won't pay, try me"
>never ever hear of it again
lol for 20 year old media company FUD

>>721719956
Poland actually. I checked and it seems a relatively common concept.
You know, I haven't thought thought about it this way, here piracy is generally not actively prosecuted either (though the times when we never saw an original CD are long gone) and regulation on making private copies is pretty lax. Thinking of it as tribute to music industry so they piss off and don't send you silly legal letters over that seems like a pretty decent deal actually.

>>721721157
flip a shiny coin in front of a kike and he'll make any concession to obtain it. it's actually crazy how they accepted a tithe when they could have basically had complete control of the internet decades ago

>>721716670
I know that in Germany there are band of lawyers dedicated to hassling people like this, but what can happen to you if you don't bend the knee, don't reply, don't do anything about their stupid letter?

>>721720483
nta but it's just added protection. likely binding is all you really need (it'll just auto-stall your torrents) but killing the app outright is to prevent anything potentially strange from happening and the torrent resuming?

beats me desu.

if your torrent software is set to use the vpn's network adapter then you dont need a separate killswitch, it literally cant connect to the internet without the vpn being on, its not going to switch to a different network adapter than the one you told it to use

>>721717774
Bend over Anon I'm about to remodel your shithole

>>721717489
I live in America, I don’t care

>>721722032
>but what can happen to you if you don't bend the knee, don't reply, don't do anything about their stupid letter?
As has happened multiple times so far: You get taken to court and pay 10x as much after you're ruled against for ignoring it. Germany is the 1 place in the world you don't ignore these

>>721719541
This is genuinely disgusting, using children as a house to further enslave your own people. They know everything is easily circumvented with a VPN and still try to push this. Thankfully I don't live in UK, but this will inevitably become some EU mandate too

>not having a gazellegames or iptorrents account in 2025

>>721719729
Weeb detected

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>>721722341
damn what a shithole

>>721718762
No, I've been pirating for 20 years and I have never ever seen a single letter from anyone.
There have been a handful of cases over the years where they went after extremely large seeders but I think they stopped caring after they blocked the top 5 pirate sites. They're also easily accessible just by changing DNS.

I live in the USA and have gotten those letters and emails before. One of those times however they showdown my internet and told me to call the ISP to turn it back on. It was a pajeet on the other side and he had some canned script about piracy or some shit from the ISP anyways they turned it back on and I’ve never been bothered since

>>721718004
Torrent is a last resort. You're retarded to use it as your default option, let alone seeding or using public trackers.

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>>721722402
>This is genuinely disgusting
It's lying on top of everything else, if you weren't doing anything wrong why would you try to hide it? Yeah exactly even they know they're the bad guy
> but the ends justify the means
Hope they remember that when the guillotines come out
I really wish they would just go fall mask off at this point, block out the sun with a giant solar panel and install neon lights everywhere, just be honest about our cyberpunk dystopia they're building around us like a cage

>>721720490
Not really, I've been doing this shit in Japan for years and ignoring the obnoxious NHK letters you get every so often, my friend has been doing the same for decades from what I remember. It's more toothless than the TV licencing shit in the UK.
I also got upsold a VPN for my phone, by the way, just a few months back. Japan isn't anywhere near as fucked as the UK, they may posture and anyone who publically gets caught is given the pariah treatment but for anything that happens in private, no one gives a fuck.

>>721717489
>VPN
owned by mossad

>>721722574
in america your isp will do everything they can to not lose you as a customer no matter what you did

>>721722635
Just get a VPN, my homeserver seeds 24/7 and I only use public trackers

>>721722774
What isn't, these days.

>>721722774
Yeah like the top 8 VPNs in the world are Israeli owned now. I think express VPN was their newest acquisition

>>721718559
That would be nice but no country has solved real crime

>>721722790
People don't seem to understand this. They do what the law requires of them, they themselves do not give a fuck. If they could legally give their users a free database full pirated movies and games and fucking CP they would, it would just be more customers for them. They don't have any moral objection to anything.

>>721722826
>What isn't, these days.
Well not Epsteins blackmail child rape ring, obviously that has nothing to do with Mossad.

>>721718841
You know nothing has ever happened to me while torrenting and using a vpn for over a decade now right?
Did you know that?
Now you know.
Thanks for your attention on this matter.

>>721717489
They hate you because you're right.

Burger here.
at the most i got a one "warning" from my internet provider when i downloaded TOTK two years ago. torrented hundreds of games throughout my life tho

>>721722916
i've no idea how it works outside of the states, in my experience the only times i got a notice about torrenting something was when it was either a nintendo or square enix game, because jap lawyers are absolute scourge

>>721718841
>He thinks ALL VPNs comply just because someone said so
el oh el, give me your cc #s please

>>721717254
>euro
I can tell you alredy that guy is a german.

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>can't get caught pirating because no modern games are worth pirating

>>721717184
t. anglo cuck

>>721716670
>Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about.
>Please provide proof that it was myself who was solely responsible for this supposed crime, and also provide legal proof that my computer was not compromised by some kind of botnet that used my IP as an exit point.
>Please also prove I actually played said game, I currently don't even know what "[skidrow]kcd2.exe" could even be?
>Kind regards, O.P Faggoton

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>>721716670
>Charge of 2200 euro for piracy
Guarantee he just got an abmahnung.

It's not a fine for piracy, it's a letter from a law firm who stalk torrents, note IPs, get addresses and say
>Hey, we saw you breaking the law, stop doing that please.
And since they are a law firm they are legally allowed to bill you for sending you any sort of letter, so they value this warning letter at 2200 euros.

Retards get the letter in and think
>Oh shit, I'm being fined thousands for piracy!
Just hire a competing law firm, there are ones that specialise in sending cease and desists to the former sort.

>>721716670
lol ive pirated so much shit without a vpn
never got a charge

>>721723067
CLANK CLANK CLANK
BONK BONK BONK
VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
GET REMODELED! GET REMODELED! GET REMODELED!

>>721723205
See, you think you've outsmarted them by replying with big brain questions, which is a mistake midwits make.
By replying, they now respond, and charge you for that response, too.

The only right move is to ignore and if necessary hire a competing lawyer. Most are the sort where you pay once and then they'll generate endless letters for you in future.

>>721717140
feed

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>>721716670
Just another proof of how low that faggot Vavra fell

>>721723276
>Just hire a competing law firm, there are ones that specialise in sending cease and desists to the former sort.
You know these firms with together, right?

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I don't like this world..

>>721718570
>be brazilian
>pirate everything under the sun
>nobody fucking cares
feels good

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>>721716670
>torrenting in 2000+25
oh nononononono, normies truly dont know jack do they
LMAO

>>721717184

>>721723480
>My family lawyer who has been a one man operation for decades is in leagues with the street shitters with a virtual office who send abmahnungs

I should have known

>>721722790
My ISP sent me like 6 DMCAs for torrenting games back in like 2018, ignorant and new to it as I was, without vpn or any safeguards in place. Just popped in utorrent and picked up every game from that year and some extras. ISP never did anything, I just pretended I never got the emails. American corpos really would rather you keep buying the subscription than put you in a legal position whereby you can no longer give money to the ISP. It just seems intimidating because everyone involved including the ISP has to keep their mouth shut to Uncle Sam lest it turn into something with tangable consequences.

>>721723495
>internet is being censored and you need an ID
>the alternative, VPNs, are being acquired by Israel, meaning they can track every IP not using an ID
Curious

>>721723540
More normies torrent now than 10 years ago because streaming has become unaffordable.
25% of Swedish population use one torrent streaming client or another

>>721723469
He caved to Big Blackrock Cock

>>721716670
In my country piracy has like 6 years in prison, but since you pay a fee on every storage media you buy, you're technically allowed to pirate because you've already been found guilty of it, maybe that's more or less why piracy is almost never fought at the user level.
Plus, there's only been one single case of an ISP giving a copyright troll company the users' data associated to an IP address, since they take this as a privacy matter (but then share your phone number with telemarketers for profit)

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>>721723495

>>721716670
don't pay lol

>>721723457
Yeah I know not responding is right, but if they take it to court they actually have to prove I was responsible for this.
You can't just see traffic exit from somewhere and charge someone thousands without a shred of proof that human was pressing those buttons. Innocent until proven guilty and web packets don't contain my DNA.

>>721723658
>My expensive swiss VPN that doesn't block torrent ports is dying because people see YouTube ads for Nord and Express VPNs

>>721717489
seethe

>>721723461
and seed

>>721717615
seethe

>>721719257
No, in France they don't do anything against people who download and only go after the big sites. They used to send letters that were simply a warning and didn't ask for any money but stopped a few years ago.

>>721723737
>NordVPN not on there
Phew.

I set up my own VPN using wireguard on a dirt cheap VPS I'm renting with tumbled crypto, but my home server is still using Nord.

Ideally I'd like to create some kind of cheap solar powered SoC or ESP device network to then use a VPN from as a proxy, but thats just a fantasy.

>>721723737
oy vey

>>721723987
you're not safe, goy

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keep pirating, you're doing god's works
>industry shill thread
you should kill yourselves. copyright is a blight on the world
captcha NAT 0 /v/

>>721723737
Damn I have PIA, at least it still has portforwarding

>Be Canadian
>ISP has to send you an email some handrubber from another country complained you made a copy of their shitty game
>nothing ever happens unless you admit you did it like a retard and it just goes into the shredder
>have thousands of notices and no one cares because it is automated and the ISP cannot by law tell the complainant who the individual is
Pirating is a human right.

>>721723987
NordVPN leaks customer data for free.

>>721716670
>euroshart
Well there's your problem

>>721724192
>Pirating is a human right.
OYYYY VEYYYYY anti-semite!

>>721723737
aren't nord and express the same company?

>>721723495
>goys bought YoutubeShillVPN
oh no, anyways

>>721724123
VPN companies will literally all go bankrupt overnight if they rat someone out for torrenting, period.
They can rat people out for being pedos or using TOR through them and 99% of users won't give a shit but the second they rat out torrenters the entire business model they have advertised will collapse since even dodging region blocks will be outlawed then too

>>721723987
It doesn’t matter what’s on there currently, it will eventually get bought out by Israel and your private information will still be on record but with new like ownership

>>721724783
>"We value our users privacy but we draw the line at [illegal shit] which is what the police will claim they found on this guy's rig, so we gladly ratted him out but definitely won't on the rest of you"

>>721724876
>It doesn’t matter what’s on there currently, it will eventually get bought out by Israel and your private information will still be on reco-what do you mean mullvad doesnt keep records ACK

>>721724876
If I was a literal international criminal overlord I'd be concerned with stuff like that, but you seriously overrestimate the capacity of the worlds legal systems to deal with individual pirates.
They'll send out letters at most, debt collection agencies are already busy with actual things they can claim real money for doorstepping loancels.
The courts cost money to use, money they are never going to recoup from nobodies.

>>721719516
These companies don't care if you block seeding. If you're in the swarm you're treated just the same.

I got one of those once and at least here you just ignore them as they don't actually know who you are (yet) and pursuing the matter isn't worth the time or resources. I don't know how it works in Europe/Germany though and reading through the thread it sounds like he's fucked.

>>721725028
>[illegal shit] which is what the police will claim they found on this guy's rig
They aren't going to claim every pirate is a pedo or something worse than a pirate anon, they have enough dogshit press from failing to deal with real pedophiles why would they invent fake pedophiles to also be seen as shitty for not dealing with. It would also inevitably come to light that this had happened when the 200th non-pedo gets charged in a very similar looking case.
If the world was as you say it is VPN companies would just fucking do this right now

>>721716670
>You are hereby fined 2000 dollarybucks for pirating games
>I'm sorry you must have me confused with someone else. Good luck finding the nasty pirate.
>*Burns letter*

>>721718583
>using vpn instead of proxies
>paying for a vpn
very ironic post

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>>721719516
>you can torrent, but you shouldn't seed
And I never will. My ratios are atrocious and I'll never change.

>>721716670
>euro

>>721717489
>having to use a VPN ever
Definition of first world problems

>>721719468
>can I make this about UK
The op looks like bong money tho

>>721724783
in what fantasy world do you live in?

>>721718112
Most of the time it's less about piracy alone and more about what you pirate. The US doesn't care if I grab some Japanese titty games, but touch some jew owned music or movies and they get pissy.

>>721716670
>things that never happened

>>721718239
It's Czech

>>721718128
>germany
lol

>>721716670
Long time ago I torrented a lot. Every single time my machine went kaput after a year

When I started to have a solid income I stopped torrenting. My machines suddenly started to work for years. I am pretty sure that cracked games are full with miner shit

>>721717489
>paying a tax to use your own internet
lmao

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Not my problem, my brother used to torrent hundreds of movies just for the lols and nothing ever happened. My country only has it out for portable consoles full of emulated nintendo games for some reason (still got one)

Why are firsties even pirating aren't you all rich as fuck?

>>721726867
>eastern europoors
>firsties
lmao
they are jeet tier poor

>>721726867
being an alcoholic in northern Europe is mighty expensive

>>721721686
They make more out of the storage tax then they ever you going after pirates
Actually keeping piracy alive is good business for them

>>721717489
I've been torrenting for over 20 years and nothing has happened. I don't live in a 3rd world shithole where ISPs hunt down filesharers for money.

>>721726867
I've been pirating my entire life. Even if it's freely available, I'll still pirate it because fuck corporations.

Remember when someone on here leaked the Pokemon Moon file like two weeks before release? Good times.

>>721727083
its ok to be gay

>>721725219
>>721719516
Worse, not only do they not care if you seed or not, they don't ever care that the torrent is actually the same thing as what they claim it is.
Someone I know got tapped for pirating GOLUM or all things when what he was torrenting (without seeding) was Jagged Alliance 3.

>>721717489
US and Germany are such totalitarian shitholes.

>>721726867
Nah, our countries are going to shit because we are importing a lot of people from shit countries. Turns out their shit countries are shit, because of the people who live there.

>>721725367
If you pay attention and have a good sense for the unspoken youll see that the system squashed the "anyone from a cop up can plant cp on anyone elses device" bullshit long before it ever happened. Same with abusing AI willy nilly to fuck people.
Same with killing people.
Know why? Because there is just a mass of competing factions and as soon as any of this shit becomea normalized it starts getting used by them against each other and their families and friends and the peasants see it and start doing it too.
Its a balancing act and there is far far less control and unity than the peasant class assumes.

>>721716670
>pirating woke garbage

>>721716670
what is kcd?

>>721726867
Doing the math even with the bullshit new price of £60 for a videogame it's only like ~7% of my weekly wage, yet I still steal everything I can. It's just a habit or something.

>>721728073
kingdom cum'n'fuck 2

>>721725204
I’m not talking about piracy I mean Israel will eventually have all VPN data so none of it is safe

>>721726867
People can barely afford groceries in America but don’t worry red/blue politician will fix it this time for sure

>>721719516
>seeding is LE BAD
biggest lie ever. kikes will send you a letter if you torrent at all, whether you upload or download
kill yourself industry spook

>>721728438
Sometimes they send letters for shit you haven's downloaded, even.
The whole system is fundamentally rigged to favor corporations.

>>721716670
kek imagine being American

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I haven't had to torrent anything in years, are you guys fucking stupid or something?

>>721718239
>get unironic reparations from germany even today
In which fucking universe?
Unless you count the joos that moved to Israel since.
Or the DOCUMENTED slave labor in their factories.(one payment, half if the recipient is dead but left a family)
They still didn't pay a dime for bulldozing entire fucking cities.

>>721725678
based

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>>721722774
Set up your own server then, buy vps in a safe country and then do the hackerman stuff.

>>721728926
Maybe he thinks EU bucks counts as "reparations"? Even though it's not just germany and it's pretty indirect mechanism at best. Though nobody really considers it that and polan isn't even a big net receiver anymore.

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>>721722809
>Just get a VPN

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to anyone that has ever gotten a warning for something like this: it's all a racket and scare tactic. paramount complained to my ISP that I downloaded Shrek 30 different times in one day (?) and all that happens is you click a button and they just let you. your ISP might drop you, but in the case of being a 10+ year customer, they're more likely to just change your IP every time and hope you don't cause them any more headaches and recommend you a VPN option.

>>721728778
Dude in the picture is from Germany and apparently Germany is very serious about this stuff so he is most likely screwed.

>>721716670
>torrenting a game that's on gog
every time with these retards

>>721731323
I once got an email from my ISP essentially saying "We don't give a shit but we're getting complaints, pls don't"
I kept getting emails like that every day for a couple weeks until I got sick of it and just got a VPN
They had me go to their website and check a box that confirms I read the email before re-enabling my internet, got annoying as hell

>>721716670
Don't disrespect Lazytown with ack-posting

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>>721716670
>torrent something
>get fined
>seed something
>get fined
>forced to use some "vpn" meme shit to have a slight chance
>get fined anyway
Feels good to not live in a freedom-not-allowed subhuman shithole roflcoptering

Throw it in the trash. Can't prove shit. Those letters are just scare tactics.

I've only gotten one ISP in all my years of pirating. I don't even remember what it was for, and I live in America where they do actually try to do something about it usually it

>>721719530
He is a jeet.
He is literally not intelligent enough

>>721729135
>buy vps in a safe country and then do the hackerman stuff.
nigga, 99% of /v/ think that a VPN is just an IP changer. Tunneling through a VPS is like rocket science.

>>721726867
I pirate out of spite. Regional pricing made games even more expensive than in Europe and the US. I can afford it, but fuck you.

>>721724783
Ever thought why the fuck there are so many VPN companies? Setting up a VPN company is stupidly easy. Most don't even own their servers. If they get a bad reputation they simply change their name. They WILL snitch to cover their ass. fact.

>>721732493
yeah it's absurd, in absolute terms I'm poorer than an American McDonald worker so why the hell do I have to pay more for games?

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Any VPN that doesn't support anonymous payment can't be trusted. IVPN and Mullvad don't even require an email address.

what do I read/watch to git gud at cybersecurity?

WHO

THE

FUCK

STILL

USES

TORRENTS

LMAO

>>721722635
I had a filesharing site I used to use about 10 years ago, then one day it just stopped updating for months until it finally went offline, and since then I've had ZERO fucking idea where to go to download things any more.

I completely understand people not sharing links (because that's a great way to get your favourite site shut down), but holy fuck is it annoying to pirate anything now, I just do what >>721722809 does and use a VPN for torrents because I have literally no fucking idea where to go any more

>>721716670
>be brazilian
>can pirate anything, be it as torrent or ddl
>don't even need to use vpn
>even the laws says that as long as you're not selling/sharing it for profits, no one can actually do shit.
actually feels good living in a shit hole lol

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>>721719176
>>721719176

>>721732282
VPNs are glorified proxies
very few people use VPNs for their actual intended purpose (extending your LAN through the internet)

>>721733527
I used to feel the same but then I found the piracy megathread on reddit and now I know my options.

>>721734439
>very few people use VPNs for their actual intended purpose (extending your LAN through the internet)
I used to do this for old multiplayer games but you don't need to for the most part now.

>>721719471
It really seems like that, people were tired of 14 years of Tory rule but Labour seems intent to speedrun their turn in power. Shame it's another 4 years before they have elections, unless the government collapses.

>>721723067
Source?

>>721716670
Wypipo problems

>>721719541
>Please, please, won't somebody think of the children?

Bros we have to liberate our German pirate brothers.

>>721717489
>paying to pirate

>>721717851
>Either pay it or get fucked 10x harder
No, worst case scenario
>lawyer up (around ~200 yurobucks OR only 15 merkelmoneyz and some paperwork, if you're a poorfag)
>your personal jewpuppet tells Cuckdorf-Nogger et al. to fuck off
>alotta OYVEYing ensues back and forth
>yiddled down to a fraction of the original demands and you'll never hear from them again
That's it.

>>721716670
>retard didn't use a VPN
lol
lmao

>>721719516
you should seed, but only if you live in a non-cucked country

>>721717064
>>721717489
cant wait for the VPN bans in the US ^_^

>>721718841
The government is lazy above all and wants to collect your taxes in peace. The mere fact that they have to go a couple extra steps to find you basically guarantees that nobody will bother you.

>>721719697
>>721719956
>>721721157
>>721721157
So I've already paid for the material I'm pirating and I can do so with a clean conscience? Wonderful.

>>721716670
imagine calling other countries shithole when ur """""FIRST"""" world country does this shit

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>>721716670
>tfw in my shithole country it is only a crime if you PROFIT from pirated stuff. You can use, download and distribute online as you wish.

>>721723495
>>721723737
>Israel becomes a haven for VPNs and anonymity in a time of near universal censorship
>Watermellon emoji lovers complain about them anyway

>>721716670
>kcd
cringe

>>721736894
>haven
lmao

>>721736614
Jeets are so dumb that don't know that VPN is used by everyone in IT.

>>721718452
Yes let's enforce vital laws like filesharing, and ignore trivial ones like border enforcement and grooming gangs. Ah, the European way.

>>721716670
>he didn't use a decentralized bittorrent client that supports 3 proxie as hops and hide you as seeder
ngmi
>he lives in a third world shit hole that sends love letters
ngmi
>he doesn't have a lawyer that sets him free
ngmi

>>721716670
torrenting protip: ignore every letter you get, they cant do shit as they would have to sue EVERY person downloading a game, nor can they prove you did it.
>t. got letters 20 years ago, still torrenting.

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>>721726867
I'm rich because I pirate

>>721726867
just because you have money doesn't mean you have to waste it. I'd rather buy parts and torrent games, and buy the really good games that are worth a buy.

For pokemon, which is likely shit, I will use ryujinx/sudachi, instead of buying it. it's a single player game anyway.

>>721737303
>they would have to sue EVERY person downloading a game
That's not really true though. Making an example of one random person to discourage the rest is a real thing they do.

>>721737579
the letters are an empty threat. i've downloaded shit for years without issue.
>DMCA notification
>ignore it
>nothing happens

in my country they send these letter all the time to people who torrent but they can't do anything, just bark

>>721716670
>one of the most subbed piracy places with open discussion gets fearmongered to death every day
wow i think i might hav to stop birating guys i dont wnana get fines like xe did :( :(

>>721716670
u/norwik07 sounds like a 4channer who ended up seeding and didn't use a proxy and lives in europe, so he deserves it

>>721716670
OMG THIS IS TOTALLY REAL REDDITBROS

KEK, I hope it's real because anyone who even pirated this anti-White cuckslop deserves to be bankrupted

>wasn't me
easy

>>721737579
kek remind me of the good old 2000 when people where on the TV crying about how they have to pay 21000$ for downloading movie.
Not only this do not work, but it's so illegal they never did it

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I can't decide is this industry shill thread, VPN shill thread, retard zoomer thread or shartybait thread.

>>721736894
post nose

>>721739898
Anti-kike thread

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I've been torrenting shit since I've learned how to use a PC. Never used a VPN. Never got into trouble for that.
Have you tried not living in a cucked country?
I thought living in the west was all about Democracy And Personal Freedom™?

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I only torrent anime.

>>721716670
This is why I use Real Debrid.

>>721739898
>jews targeting piracy because muh DMCA
seethe

>>721716670
who's mack?

>>721727289
>get a personal torrent of Doom.7z from a friend
>it's just doom wads
>get a takedown notice from ISP for Doom 2016 distribution

>>721740539
I don't know why you'd ever think that Democracy=personal freedom, or that personal freedom=theft, neither makes sense.

>>721719516
It doesn't matter. Torrenting tech needs data sent from you for a handshake, and they can get you on that technicality alone. Use a VPN, lawyers are lazy faggots, that alone deters them.

>>721740961
>Democracy=personal freedom
Yes they're basically opposites

>>721740961
>personal freedom=theft
IP law violates natural freedom. It is not theft as nobody is losing any property, they are simply not receiving business that they personally feel they deserve. Companies having ownership of words and ideas is idiotic and is only perpetuated by our oppressive failing modern society. The people who actually came up with these idea aren't even the ones profiting, it is instead random super corps working to buy up the rights to all human knowledge and ideas.
It should not be governments job to ensure that private companies earn potential theoretical dollars. It's companies responsibility to make their shit less trivial to copy with better DRM.

>>721740961
Because democaracy and capitalism is everything that is just and good was central propaganda message for last 100 years. With fall of ussr there is no unified voice strong enough to challenge it so we get further into extreme black and white blinders of everything i agree with is democracy, everything i disagree with is fascism.

>>721742742
>Because democaracy and capitalism is everything that is just and good was central propaganda message for last 100 years.
Democracy was never good, only idiots think that. US founders knew it was bad and failed everywhere it was tried which is why they heavily restricted it (but those restriction have largely been removed or subverted). Most people are shortsighted retards who are barely alive.
Capitalism isn't good or evil it's just the only realistic system for handling transfer of labor and property ownership without everyone enslaving and killing each other.

>>721740961
>he thinks "intellectual property" is real property
keep drinking the jewish kool-aid

>>721743854
>a system where the guy holding all the chips utilizes them to rig the market in his favor and deprive the guys born with few chips is realistic
you're fucked in the head. it's exactly the same shit as gommunism except instead of saying government official, the hat's tag reads company executive or banker

>>721723658
It's a (((cohencidence)))

>>721718225
What?

>pirated shit game
>punished
Deserved

>>721744112
All those problems are only caused by government.

You can get these letters anywhere if your ISP just cares enough to fleece you. Only a retard would pay it, you're supposed to call them and say you're changing ISP if you get even one more

I remember when Comcast used to threaten me about to to renting so I fired back telling them I'd find another ISP and they shut their mouths real quick
Haven't gotten a letter since then

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>>721716670
lmao stupid jeets

>>721744387
>yes goy market failure doesn't exist
>information asymmetry
>natural monopolies
>offshoring and outsourcing
>collusion and oligopolies
>cornering the market
>abusive practices like planned obsolescence denial of repairs
>etc. etc.
>YES GOY IT'S ALL THE GOVERNMENT'S FAULT THEY FORCED THE WHOLESOME CHUNGUS MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS TO BE EEEEEEVIL!
man I can see your nose all the way from here

>don't have the hoarding autism
>if a torrent has a lot of seeds, I don't need to seed
>if a torrent has little to no seeds, I don't get the file in the first place
I never seed.

Leave the seeding to non pozzed countries and ddl everything. No one will care unless you distribute

>>721745107
>look ma, I posted misinformation again

>>721744112
>you're fucked in the head. it's exactly the same shit as gommunism except instead of saying government official, the hat's tag reads company executive or banker
U.S. and Europe isn't capitalist it is a twisted hybrid of the worst aspects of capitalism and socialism. The U.S. government uses socialist regulations created by corporations to prevent anyone from competing with them. In an actual capitalist society anyone can make whatever they want and sell whatever they want to anyone without billion dollar licenses or IP restrictions.
People forcing you to buy their shit is not capitalism.
Normalfags are too lazy and scared of a world where they have choices and personal responsibility to make their own judgement on product quality so instead they allowed this broken system to grow where the big daddy government tells them what they need to buy and who is allowed to sell it.

>>721745481
As soon as you remove the government from equation you will get corpo militaries enforcing oligopolies with deadly force. Anarcho capitalism is the absolute hell and you don't want to live in it.

>>721745082
>>721745107
they don't care how much you seed
if any data passed from you to other peers, it's the same as if you sneeded 100tb

>>721736894
>anonymity
For the "chosen", not you goy.

>>721717621
>by not paying it they were found liable for even more fines
Not true, the initial asking sum is always several magnitudes higher than any damages a court would ever sign off on.
>>721717851
>most recent case was last year
show me

>>721744885
Not being able to figure out why none of those issues are real is a pure low IQ issue.

>>721740362
So it is a raid