it's kinda hard
well yeah the game punishes you if you don't do a decent strategy
I wish. Use buffs retard, and equip the time quartz while you are at it.
Yuri no kiseki
>>721725815>use buffsIt depends, time quartz are 1 target and needs two turns, you can aoe buff with CP but some requires the party to be close in battle, you do that and the enemie does a decent chunk of damage on everybody.It's fun tho, a good game
>>721726896Do you play on nightmare? The trick is to give everyone Clock Up/EX. You usually can go right after casting Clock on yourself again. Have someone else cast Earth Shield on the whole party. Thats a 1k HP bonus. 1.3k if Schera is buffing your cast. Then you just mow them down with a few sound tactical decisions. Who to steal from, when to accept the CP usage delay, when to use your overdrive to crit etc etc. Also, look into getting your equipment with speed bonuses and upgrade them. It makes a world of difference if your speed is high AND you Clock yourself up.
>>721728085schera has a good SPD CP, but she's not in the party anymore>The trick is to give everyone Clock Up/EXin some boss I'm not even the first one to move, giving everyone clock up costs too much hp because only 2 of the 4 have the skill.I guess I should focus on SPD stats then, perhaps that's the main issue
>>721726896If you are fast enough you cast before the enemy turn, and Clock Up EX has no casting turn in the first place + resets your current delay.Enemy AoE crafts aren't too big usually so you can avoid it while still buffing everyone with things like earth guard, and you can impede/anti-sept/merely move out (some) of the red circles against arts.
>>721724730you are kinda bad
>>721724730You can group your party members together and spam Earth Guard.It works every time.
>>721728604Ravens actually OHKO you through earth guard during rage but not wall
>>721724730I watch these games on youtube and skip garbage combat
>>721728406There were those fruit weapons in Bose that give speed bonus for both Estelle and Joshua. Have every character be able to cast Clock Up. Get speed accessories and upgrade them as well. Game is pretty chill even on Nightmare once you know what to do.
are the people complaining about this game being hard just like people playing trails game for the first time and put it on nightmare for some reason or what
>>721724730its only hard until around chapter 3 assuming you're on nightmareby then just like every other trails game you have access to all the broken shit and the enemies cant handle it
>>721728645Akshully they can only do that to Joshua, their special is much weaker if it hits a female target.
What a cute and innocent girl!
>>721724730My dick is kinda hard.
>>721729338What did they mean by this.
>>721724730
>>721726896It’s more about stacking clock-up and also having a high enough speed stat. Hit is also pretty important. However once you get a few hours in and get more team members, your hit rate should stabilize and you’ll have more turns to play with. The original also had the issue of being locked to just Joshua and Estelle for a bit too long and didn’t give you chain attacks and such to help.
>had to lower the difficulty from hard for the prologue fight where you only have a character when the other is busy changing the lightbulbhow the fuck are you supposed to beat 4 enemies that have 4200 hp and have a charged attack that does 600 damage at level 6?
>>721730102Hit rate stops being that much of a big deal when you are constantly applying foresight
>>721730315I did it with solo Estelle in Nightmare even if I feel like Joshua would have been much easier, but she was the only one with clock up and guard equipped so.The same way you do every other thing in the game really
>>721730315Super easy even on nightmare. Just go and do the other sidequests first. One of them brings you into the Mistwald where you find a pretty good chest piece with good def stats. Give it to either of them and go ham. You can also sleep twice at the inn for 200 CP and fuck them up.
>>721730315idk dude i did it first time in nightmare maybe try not being bad?
Of course it's hard. You don't have real heroes like pic related to lead you
>>721730634are you a trails oldfag? I have never played the game
>>721730750If you play the CS games and treat them as fanfic powerfantasy then its kinda alright. Like a guilty pleasure :)
>>721730919yes i have easily over a thousand hours in trails games
>>721731048post your nightmare clear on SC
>>721731348>nightmareEZ->SCgay
>>721731348sorry im one of the insane people who started on TOCS and never played the ones before that until the remake, i've even beat nayuta
>>721730315use estelle's buff craft, use the food that gives you a double attack buff, overdrive, s-craft. that should kill at least two of them and taking care of the other two shouldn't be hard. you can buy the accessory that gives you +200 hp if their charged attacks are killing you in one hit
>>721731965you get a bp point for leaving the lantern repair to estelle
>>721732039what the fuck how was I supposed to know
Is the game selling well? I know trails has been fucked ever since coldsteel finished in japan, but the salss numbers there never even peaked that high. Has the world wide push helped the series?
>>721732039you get 1 bp no matter who does it, you just have to actually enter the code yourself if you make estelle do it
>>721732416it had 20k ccu between both remake versions already, which dwarfs ccu numbers of other titles. it also seems to have sold well on both switches and ps5. if 2nd remake sells just as much or more then the 3rd and possibly crossbell remakes might very well happen.
>>721732605The chink version had 16k peak on steam or something right? But the thing nobody talks about is that our version is the same for the nips and we had 5k users at all times. Meanwhile the chink version fell down to 1k-2k. Meaning that our version sold more than what the 5k peak implies
>>721732416highest selling trails on steam by miles and also was #1 on physical sales in japan. it might end up being falcom's most successful game yet.
>>721732761I have never seen anyone give a good accounting for estimating sales from CCU. All else equal, more is better, but it's rare for everything to be equal.After a game has been out for a while, you could in principle get to total sales by looking at the total playtime and estimated completion percentage, but I'm not sure if anyone actually does that.(To be clear, the game seems to have done well. I'm just trying to figure out how well)
>>721732416>I know trails has been fucked ever since coldsteel finished in japanIs that even true? I feel like Kuro has gotten plenty of fanart so I assumed it wasn't really a dip in popularity for the series
>>721733870Well you would be incorrect. The dip in sales from Hajimari to Kuro was massive and it's only dropped more since.
>>721724730>jarpig>hardI simply don't believe you
>>721733870Sales dipped pretty hard for calvard, its fine falcom just needs to market themselves world wide. Japan will never be a good source of income for them, they support jrpgs like they used too anymore.
The first impression I got of the demo is that this is a great remake.Also, graphically the game looks very good, better than AAA games. It seems like Falcom has reached a new milestone and I hope they start making more new games while sticking to this new high quality.I'll buy the full game later from sale. With FF Tactics and EU6 coming up, I can't buy everything.
>>721734216Visually it feels like falcom is almost caught up, i think it looks more visually appealing and animates better than the newer atelier games.
>>721733949>>721734050>The audience is compelling falcom to only make more haremslopThat's grim
>>721734328Not really since Kuro was also haremslop and it is the worst selling arc by a mile.
>>721734315Whats funny is that the kuro games look worse and ran worse. The remake looks much better and runs better as well.
>>721734328>>721734404Cold Steel was incredibly successful. Kuro was incredibly unsuccessful. People who spend their every day seething about Cold Steel really need to get it through their thick skulls that the self insert pandering is not the reason Cold Steel was popular.
>>721734498Reancuck..
Does anyone have context on the review bombing from Russia? It sounds like the publisher unlisted the game there, but that doesn't take the game away from customers who already bought it, right?
>>721734679You can be mad at me all you want but the numbers are proof enough. Unless you have some other genius mental gymnastics to cope with. In which case feel free to share. I'm in the mood for a good laugh.
>>721734404Kuro and Zero/Ao aren't harem imo as much as they are too cowardly to commit to a single girl. That's a pretty pedantic distinction but to me it's more frustrating in Cold Steel where I commit to a girl, get a nice romantic scene, but none of it is canon and will all get reversed in the next game. As opposed to the other games where they're in a perpetual state of "will they won't they".Honestly every have should just do what Hajimari did and have a dialogue choice at the beginning asking which girl the main characters should be paired with. Even though in that game it only affected like one fucking moment in the whole game
>>721734794Post those numbers
>>721734779They removed the game from steam store in Russia.
>>721735026No, I'm busy, google the Famitsu numbers yourself. If you want to pull the "hur it didn't happen then" that's your choice to make but it doesn't change the facts.
>>721735538>famitsu>I'm in the mood for a good laugh>ducksI am having plenty of a laugh. Go be a retard somewhere else.
>>721735985Well you've made your choice, have fun with it. Hope it helps you cope.
>>721734779GungHo are subhuman scum and you should play the original.
>>721729132>for the first time and put it on nightmare for some reason or whatThat's understandable nowadays where if you start a new game on anything but the hardest difficulty, most often games are playing themselves. A hard mode being actually hard instead of normal with a silly name is a novelty.
>>721736038Sure, buddy. Try something better next time.
Still waiting for an explanation how Cyjews got away with ripping off the greatest female character in fiction.
>>721735313wtf people are still boycotting and trashing Russia/Russians?? it's been like 4 years already, let it go
>>721736462They just need to stop their invasion, it's that easy. it's been like 4 years already, let it go
>>721736462trashing russia is okay, but the folk? not so much. they dont have the power to stop putin. if not even the belief in god can make putin stop killing people, then what can?
Man I don't know what people were smoking when they called Cold Steel's orbments a downgrade from Sky's. The loss of master quartz is huge and building characters is more boring in general.
>>721737164Creating my god-killing death squad in the Hajimari post-game was a ton of fun, it's a great system
>>721736308This joke isnt funny, you horse fags dont need to attention whore this hard
>>721738420How old are you?
>>721738420Sounds like something a guy with a bleeding asshole would say
>>721736308Everything had a derivative by this point. Even Estelle is derivative of Lina from Slayers and Asuka from Eva. Maybe even abit of Rin from Fate
>>721739186
>>721738420It's kinda funny.>>721739186There are a limited number of ways you can combine anime features. There are bound to be some collisions after a while.
i want to play but I don't think I can resist this nap. it's over
>>721737164the balancing act of trying to get the art list you wanted vs the stats you need was more engaging than cold steel where you can just do everything
>>721739186Estelle is original because she succeeds in getting the boy while everyone else fails or their romance is not set in stone. (Rin)
I am enjoying this adventure once again.
>>721739589I see you never played 3rd where Arts focused characters had everything they could ever want.
>>721724730Im playing on easy, what do yo umean?
>>721739787I'm about to start, heard Nightmare is still hard and I never beat the OG Nightmare. This will be tough
We can debate cold steel vs older games all day, but can we at least agree that the Daybreak system is the worst one yet? The fact that only characters with specific element-locked slots in the right section are allowed to reach their full potential is silly
>>721739787its nice to play a trails game that doesnt revolve around a central hub againthey really lost the feeling of adventure as the series went on
>>721740083read the tips in this thread and you will be a-ok.
>SC remakeThey better use this five minute opening completely remade, or else..https://youtu.be/vfhj1B6Pi7Q?si=KvMvoJA1zqHV4lRj
Want to play it but I wanted to play the new Atelier first.
Chapter 1 was very hard for me. The rest of the game was pretty easy. Especially when you get the ability to use 4 of the ultimate 200CP attacks on 1 turn. The bosses that enrage at low HP just die in 1 turn after that
>>721724730everyone complaining that it's hard is playing on nightmare... like duh
>>721740720You mean their failed gacha turned into single-player? Well, you do you.
>>721740710>another rendition of silver willI must have heard 5 different official versions now, how many are there, also fucking spoilers
>>721733974the originals were silly hard on nightmare, even on NG+
>>721736462Russians deserved to be segregated from the rest of the world even before the war shit.
>>721740123i think it would be fine if there was more variety in quartz and skills but falcom just seem unwilling to beyond the basic attack, mind, impede etc
why do you want a challenge to the point that the game becomes unfun?
>>721740940It's the EVO opening.
Just turn the difficulty down. It's not worth it. Every boss is just a big group of trash mobs or a group of humans. Nothing is particularly fun to fight or unique. The "dungeons" are just he same towers with slightly different layouts. Most overhyped JRPG I've ever played.
>>721741254should have played the original, the story is the good part and that was neutered in the remake.
>>721724730How to kill don/kyle/josette in chapter 1 on nightmare
>>721741356how so?
>>721740948To be fair, in Sky trilogy Hard/Nightmare didn't exist until the re-releases. It was really just bumping up enemy stats without bothering to test if it's even remotely possible to win. Turns out it is because you can abuse the fuck out of speed and earth wall but yeah.
>>721741050Yeah in the first game I only ever found one each of the rare quartz. Actually some of them were makeable at the end but only the shitty ones, not the ones that gave crits on arts or 1.5x crit damage. It was just so much more worth decking out 1-2 people so they got all the OP skills, and letting the rest of the party support them.I hope falcom realizes that having time to play as characters is important to forming a bond with them, if half of the cast is on the bench due to not having enough resources to give them to make them good, I won't care about them as much in general
>>721724730It is. Just experiment and use good arts. Elemental weaknesses are the name of the game.
>>721741416you are replying to the /fg/ schizo. he just spams the same shit on both boards.
>>721741356If the story still involves making a big circle around the map doing glorified sidequests then, no, it's not good.
>>721741254I like the combat system of Trails on paper but the reality is that its developers do absolutely nothing interesting with any of it and every encounter is the exact same. The environments are also extremely basic and lazy.
>>721741358josette saying 'use earth guard retard'.jpg
>>721741416Script changes, original japanese script censored. In the new localization Estelle is no longer unhinged which she was loved for.
>>721741651>be level 17>enemies kill me before I even get earth guard up
>>721741753???you get guard up by using quartz anon
>>721741506>Elemental weaknesses are the name of the game.Eeeeh not really. They help killing some mobs and early bosses faster but it's more about the buffs, delay spam, stun, well-timed S-breaks, and here you get the steal bonus stuff. You aren't going too far with color matching.>>721741753If you straight up cannot stay alive on the first round, reload the save instead of retrying the fight. The initial turn order is randomized to a certain degree.Or just make your characters bulkier and faster, either way you will need to reload.
>>721741656Fanfiction loved by localization troon axe-wound lickers. You see xsneed and nisacucks like xim from time to time.
>>721742315localizations in 2004 were different to today ragecuck
>>721741656Is there an uncensored playthrough of that game on yt?
Extreme feels solved for me. Dunnk why you guys are complaining, i just got tita. Abuse clock up EX or keep crying
>>721742449Kek this nigger cant be serious
>>721742480Of course there are. It's better to play it yourself to get the feel for the setting.This series is surprisingly popular with ecelebs so if you want to watch it there's plenty of channels I guess, I check out some reactions to the ending sometimes and there are a lot.
>>721741656i really didnt miss most of the xseed "flavor" and it feels like the whole "estelle has no personality in jp thing" was just a cope for all these years
>>721743067why would anyone with taste in japanese games miss the fanfic
>>721743067>>721743138ragecuck...
>>721743202Why dont you keep posting your 'censorship' fanfic, mondblut?
>>721743202i dont know what that means and i dont care im just mad people lied about the original jp estelle for like a decade
>3 lines changed >ITS CENSORSHIP THEY CHANGED THE SCRIPT AAAAA WOKE ITS BECAUSE ITS WOKEEEE>meanwhile
This shit is so bullshit, flame zippos don't help much.
>>721744057you have to upgrade them to get 100% resistance its something they added in the newer games but it just feels like busywork, the original just had 100% resistance accesories by default
>>721744057i just beat him like usual. just be fast and stunlock the shit out of it.
>>721744057Yeah actually that was annoying. >>721744239Thought about that I decided to nah screw that, I'm just going to retry until I don't get freeze locked.Actually won on my third attempt
>>721743138>this faggot is dead nowlol
>>721743138what sidequest is he talking about
>>721739573
>>721740123The basic idea behind it is fine. They just need to balance it better.
>>721744057holy fuck that was too close
>>721745943Schera-nee saving the day I see.
>>721744057>>721745943come on bros..
>>721745939well hopefully that's what they did in the game coming to the west in january with the long ass title I can't remember
you guys weren't kidding about Nightmare, dying in the tutorial is embarrassing
>>721747812How
>>721747812Meh i lost too, you just got caught off guard. You have no abilities early on
>>721747812Shameful display
>>721724730It's ok but I just want to play the sequel already.
>>721746723Are you trying to go through there early or something?
>>721748486Cute jiggle
>>721748397early? how so? just doing the side-quests as i get them. also, the fish is more annoying since he does some wacky delay and seal shit
>>721748486I don't understand why they only changed Anelaces design. Her old design was CUTE and the ribbon stays on during sleep
>>721724730Clock up EX is a free turn as it has zero delay built in. You immediately put double speed on yourself and can do whatever moves you need next. It's really the only buff you need the rest is about keeping the enemies down. Steal their bonuses, seal them and remove buffs with anti sept (or joshuas sever) if they buff up or rage. Keep your party away from each other because bosses often have gay AoEs. You can consistently lock down any enemy. It only gets easier and easier as estelle and joshua get more power ups like being able to burst with just the two of them and etc.
>>721748827>the ribbon stays on during sleepDoes it stay on even during... you know.
haha, i love trails and ys
>>721748486Nice ribbon physics. I like the bounce.
>>721749046>...you know.A-Anal?
>>721749450No, showering you dummy!
>>721749234Ok consoomer piggy.
>>721749234Is this the correct order to play the games?
explain this
>>721749867gay frogs in the sewers
>>721749706No>Sky, Sky SC, Sky 3rd (liberl arc)>zero, azure (crossbell arc)>cold steel I, II, III, IV, Reverie (erebonia arc)>daybreak I, II, beyond the horizon(calvard arc) where we are currently with beyond the horizon coming out soon if you don't use the fan translationI believe that is the correct timeline and order is absolutely important as the games take place one after the other with a consistent plot line and references.
>>721750189>fan translationis it the same one as for the first two kuro games?
>>721750264I'm not really sure. I've stuck with the english releases and don't know much about fan patches.
>>721750473i remember playing the first one with the fan TL and it was pretty good. AI TL with human editing or something like that. gotta check out the pastebin over at /vg/.
lots of cute npcs in this rolent
>>721749706yes, gaben himself played them in that order
>>721750637JOOSHUUUUAAAA
>>721749706>the first game literally says FROM ZEROit can't be more direct than that.
>tita is the worst character againyikes
>>721751140can you swap in your benchriders?
>>721751140She deserves all the abuse
>>721752036the moment her brain got wired for agate for the rest of her life.
>>721752020I meant in combat
>>721752036is hitting lolis legal?
Recapture has probably the best 1st rendition
>>721752092i think tita might be viable as a dodge tank, but i don't have all the requirements for a proper build
>ded
>>721724730I'm kinda hard.
>>721756338proof?
>>721755269Can't dodge the rage attacks though.
>>721724730can anyone inform me about this game? is it something new or a remake? also why is it getting such high reviews, what makes this game special?
>>721756490i've noticed that there seem to be a lot more attacks that are undodgeable
>>721756607play the demo and find out. it is important to make up your own opinion to shield yourself against all the lying schizos this franchise has in this shithole.
>>721757515but it's a remake or an original game?
>>721728929wait schera leaves the party? what about all the shit you equipped her with?
>>721757745Remake
>>721756607>what makes this game specialsisbrocest
Estelle slowly finding out what an absolute baller her father has been is kino. Everyone important just dickrides Cassius.
>>721758009I'd dickride Cassius too
>>721758491homo
>>721758491based
>>721757773>no more brown tiddiesShit game, dropped
>>721757773i dont remember anymore but you get it all back like in every jrpg? she will come back later, as will all the others. but this game is more like a coming of age story about joshua and estelle; going around the country and becoming adults.
>>721724730not as hard as nortubel
>>721758009Cassius ruined Zin's career as a bracer forever by being the biggest gary stu ever, Zin will never feel like he's ready for S rank as long as he compares himself to the GOAT
>>721759319when you are Idolized by even chads among men like Richard it just means there's no point, Zin will forever be a middle manager guy
>>721759319>highly technologically advanced country attacks bumpkin country stuck in the middle ages>one guy's tactical and physical prowess completely turns the tides and makes the strong tech nation turn heelHow can you not dickride this absolute chad.
I'd never played a trails game since I dislike turn-based baby combat but gave this a try. On nightmare, in early stages I used earth guard to survive bosses. Later on, I used clock ex, sylphen guard on sasuke, spammed strong spells and stacked debuffs on enemies, s-break whenever enemy was in rage or stun. Enemies kill you very quickly later on so healing spells became pointless. Go full offense. Finished at lvl 47, but I think real time combat would've been much more fun.
>>721759804meanwhile his daughter thinks hes just an old man that is kinda good with a stick lmao
>>721759804why did you conveniently leave out the Airships that Liberl invented, if anything it's professor Russel that saved Liberl while Cassius hogged all the glory
Playing this game is so funny, they took an old game and just remade it with shiny new graphics and animations. Why the fuck could square not do that with FF7?
>>721760428And who used his brain and muscles in the army to fucking destroy the enemy? Cassius has the biggest fanboys.
>>721761002Shiny new gameplay that's sort of faithful to the original as well, since we are still going cocks up and walls.
I was doing pretty straightforward medium hard playthrough, I did the quests in the obvious order they were provided, did some gear upgrades and whatnot Then I end up facing some lvl 6 boss on a farm while I'm level 4 and only beat it due to luck after few wipes.Then I get some lamp post quest where you have too defend lamp change solo and the critters hit 1/6th of my health on each turn, even tho they're level 4 and im level 5 and its a literally unbeatable minor sidequest.I'm just confused what does the game want from me
>>721761413"Use buffs retard" is what the game wants
>>721761413the harder difficulties in this game are clock up/earth wall simulators
Anyone know how achievements work and if I get to carry the nightmare clear one to ng+? I realized I fucked up and had a quest expire but I wanna use ng+ to get them all without having to do nightmare again.
>>721761587There's a bit more than that since you really want to cook some strong food items and when possible just don't get hit with foresight.
>>721761625What? doing all the quests and beating hte game on nightmare having nothing to do with each other if that's what you're asking. There's nothing stopping you from doing nightmare on your first playthrough while ignoring everything and then going NG+ on easy.
>>721741625I just turned down the game to normal for the ending of chapter 4. I really liked the combat in the first 2 chapters but it doesn't evolve at all. There's just no point to slow the game down with nightmare because I feel like I've already seen everything the combat system has to offer. It's really lame how you basically get access to the most powerful spells in chapter 1.
ok... so I have a week vacation coming up. Is the remake worth playing through even tho I beat the original?
>>721765621It's better than most slop nowadays but it's only good because the original was great. And some of the charm is gone
>>721767293>And some of the charm is goneLike what?
>>721769245Shit, wrong screenshot.
>>721726896>>721728085>>721728406>>721730579>CPWhat the fuck is your problem? stop saying that word you faggots, this is a jrpg thread, fuck off
>>721769371Haha, that's our Estelle!
>>721768978>Like what?
>>721769680jeet got your tongue?
>>721768978it's missing all the xseed fanfic
>>721768978isometric camera + sprites makes the world feel different, very soulful
>>721771835
This okayish remake is ironically the only game I could get myself to finish this year. Ai limit was okay but kinda barebones and soulless. Wuchang got boring real quick. Popular "goty" games this year are all slop. Would've been excited for Ninja gaiden if ryu wasn't fucked and the game had some variety in environments. I have nothing to look forward to aside from Chapter 2, okami and maybe nioh.
>>721772261emulate ps2 games in 4k.
>>721770372I'm glad we can all agree that Xseed did everything right.
>>721769245I'm a bit out of the loop with Trails games, why the fuck is there not only one diner uniform DLC but also two more planned?
>>721769245They could make us unlock cool outfits now that it is a 3D game, or even, hell, have better outfits as DLCs, but these are some of the worst I've ever seen. Not even Tales Of could do worse.I hope more modders are gonna bother but so far, It doesn't look like it. There are outfits you can wear in game , and you can't even wear them, like the princess one for Estelle (where she duels and wears a beret) ...
>>721772616for shuresen
>estelle calls her fathers mustache susI thought this was supposed to be more faithful to the original script.
>>721773716go play the xsneed and nisa localizations and you will have your answer.
>>721751140>againShe was great in the original. I'm sure she's good here too since you're retarded.
>>721728604>Spam Earth Guard>winglad to see they stayed faithful to the original game's combat
>>721728718combats actually fun tho you're missing out anon
>>721780905It's fine at the start but it never evolves... you use the same spells through the whole game and none of the enemies ever do anything unique, either.
>>721724730If you get filtered by a "just make the number go higher" video game, you might want to see a neurologist, there might be something wrong with your brain
Retard
>>721784908>>721785072post your nightmare clear
>>721785215I wasn't talking to op retard
>>721785215Let me guess, it's just a mode where the enemy gets higher stats, so you need even higher numbers to beat it, lol
>>721785240>>721785439you didn't beat the game, lmao
>>721741656some tropes work better in more abstract formwith english voice acting some of that stuff would come across retarded
>>721726613Is this canon?
>>721738456>>721738847Then you morons complain about the jannies.
Just beat it.The prologue is harder than the OG but everything past that is easier.
Combat doesnt evolve, but its still really fun. I think the key to JRPGs evolving is to embrace more puzzle mechanics during boss fights or interactables. FFX is still one of the few games ive played that does this and embraced it.
>>721790892FFX doesn't do shit... If you want to see a game that uses the battle mechanics well play Crystal Project on hard mode. The only bad thing was the grinding for job points to level more jobs for but I think the dev added in cheats to make it faster. You basically needed certain sets of jobs for some of the super bosses
>>721790892the tools are all already there for a decent game, the devs just dont ever use themyou have all these abilities that interrupt enemy spells but you never need to use them, you have spells that cancel buffs but enemies rarely ever buff themselves anywayenemy resistances barely matter on bossesstatus effects don't do shit to bossesbosses don't really have any mechanics, they're just hp bars with damageyou can delay enemies but they'll never really react to it they just resume their turn as normal bosses just stand there the entire fight, they don't really move or do anything that utilizes movementthe fact that you cant freely move anywhere during a turn makes utilizing the movement mechanics in any involved way impossible
>>721784908The reason it's "hard" is because you can't just out grind the game. Each level gives diminishing returns from the chapters current enemies. Anyone who plays JRPGs like this will immediately get stumped because you actually have to use the games systems.
>>721791682Is the 2nd game like that too? I'll probably just play it on normal for the story. If the 1st chapter didn't end with such a cock tease ending I probably wouldn't even bother with the 2nd chapter.
>>721792017all the games in the entire series are like thattheyve been making these games 20 years and they still refuse to actually use their own battle systemi dont mean to make it sound like i hate this series but it just disappoints me how little effort they put into the combat design
>>721792065The only boss that did anything unique was the guy that cloned himself before the scripted death, and then he immediately ran away. I couldn't believe it, finally a unique fight that wasn't just trash mobs and it ends immediately.
>>721790892Funnily enough there's probably one single encounter maybe two I can think of that require a bit of a different strategy. In chapter 4 there's a random task to hunt down a group of dogs and the only way to win on nightmare is to keep all the small dogs confused while they bite away at the main boss and you do bits of damage as well because otherwise he immediately can revive every single one constantly while buffing them. Needed more fights like that.
>>721791682Yeah the game has room for depth, falcom just needs to try harder. There was a mini side quest fight with enemies that have poor movement, they all had reflect for physical moves, but you could use strategy to constantly move out of there range. The game is still fun because craft skills are a great design, but the bosses arent varied enough in what they do.
>>721791682Is this post even about this game? Because almost everything is wrong. The only thing you got right is that the game isn't about elemental color matching
>>721793208what is wrong about any of that?impeding doesn't do shit because enemy spells will never do more than like half your health at absolute most, most of the time if you have up to date equipment they'll do about a 1/4 or 1/5 and even if you do impede their spell or ability they just instantly recast it on their next turn anyway95% of the bosses have 100 spell resistances meaning all spells just do normal damage and very rarely do they have immunitiesbosses are indeed immune to pretty much every status effectthere are probably like 3 bosses in all 10+ games that actually have any kind of mechanics you need to pay attention to, the rest are just spam attack and healthe new movement system they implemented in the recent games does indeed sap what little strategy the movement system used to have completely awayso where is the lie?
>>721793208He's not wrong about statuses. Every single boss will look like this. Triangles meaning they've heavily resistant to the effect. Confusion is the only one that's usually open.
>>721739787Probably my favorite Trails image. Nails the feeling of FC.I love the take on Grancel in the bottom image. Wish Falcom could have pulled something like that off but ah well.
What the FUCK was Joshua's problem?
>>721793549Traumatic childhood and being a living weaponplease understand
>>721793545I was hoping they'd expand the scale a bit in the remakes. Having everything be exactly the same scale except in 3d instead of 2.5d just makes everything look way smaller than it already is. It make Liberl look like 50 people live in it.
>>721793549He was MKULTRA'd by weissman
>>721747812The prologue is 100% the hardest part of the game. I died like 20 times in the prologue then didn't die again the entire rest of the game. Once you have access to Clock up EX (what the fuck were they thinking) and old faithful Earth Wall the game basically plays itself.
>>721793702That's how it always is in these games. Hard as fuck in the beginning when you don't have access to anything but the second you get access to any of the unbalanced broken shit the game becomes a complete cakewalk. Falcom are just utterly incapable of balancing. They don't even try.
>>721793748True but I've beaten the original 3 times and I still have to do a lot of prepwork for the Lorence fight. In this game he legit got 2 moves. The amount of speed you get at the end of the game is absolutely stupid.Difficulty rating isRemake prologue > OG game > Remake everything else Still doesn't come close to Second Chapter's beginning though. Wonder if they'll keep Jaeger Kurt as stupid a fight as he is in the OG.
>>721793901Oh yeah it only got worse over time. The Loewe fight was a joke in the remake which makes me worried for SC.
>>721793537>impeding doesn't do shit because enemy spells will never do more than like half your health at absolute most, most of the time if you have up to date equipment they'll do about a 1/4 or 1/5 and even if you do impede their spell or ability they just instantly recast it on their next turn anywaySomebody played on baby mode huh. Bet you didn't even need to anti sept all to shut down shit like the helm cancer+.>95% of the bosses have 100 spell resistances meaning all spells just do normal damage and very rarely do they have immunitiesThat's good.>bosses are indeed immune to pretty much every status effectNo they aren't. I'm statusing them on the regular, usually with green arts for blind and seal, plus Kloe's freeze when she's available.>there are probably like 3 bosses in all 10+ games that actually have any kind of mechanics you need to pay attention to, the rest are just spam attack and healNearly every boss has rage so there's that. And healing is the last thing you want to do here.>the new movement system they implemented in the recent games does indeed sap what little strategy the movement system used to have completely awayStill need to figure out when to stay close and when to split to deal with enemy AoEs while making sure you are applying your buffs. >so where is the lie?The fact you are implying you played the game on anything above Normal at best.
>>721793549Living weapon child soldier who was forced into having feelings and being happy by an autistic tomboy who just wants to fish, catch bugs and get sneakers.He slips back into his old ways but Estelle will drag him home, break his bed frame and make the Bright family even larger.
>>721793967ah yes the "you just played on easy mode" cope. happens every time.
>>721793901Loved all 3 Trails game, even 3. Ended up stacking speed and just spamming s-crafts as the games progressed. Felt somewhat cheap, but also the most efficient way of killing enemies.
>>721794009Nice cheats bro. It's still a fact you are lying about how the game plays out
>>721794164lol, you're pathetic
>>721794236Now prove you didn't use cheats.
>>721794280holy shit lol you're a fucking loser dude
>>721794236random question but is Nightmare be fun for the first playthrough? If I've played a shitload of rpgs before and enjoy hard games
>>721794341its fine, its only really hard in the first chapter or two then it becomes standard
>>721794305The post is still blatant lies, so either you did something like changing difficulty before the final boss or used actual cheats.
>>721794370ok you clearly just want the last word here so you can feel like you "won" but i already proved it so just eat shit faggot
>>721794396You didn't prove shit, it's very easy to fake it. Hell, you didn't even prove they are your screenshots.
>>721794437do you not know what 4chanx is lmaonothing i can say can please you cause you'll just invent some new bullshit way to describe why it "doesn't count" cause you can't actually invalidate anything i said
>>7217944624chanX doesn't tell me who took these screenshots originally.
>>721751140Nah, she's the Noel of Sky. Stick status Quartz on her and she can handicap the entire combat arena each turn.
>>721768978They injected nu-Falcom writing into the game.
>>721794684I mean, yeah but everyone can do that too.
>>721794781Olivert is the only one who has the same AoE as her, but the damage type is physical so it's weak as fuck since he's an arts user, whereas Tita is primarily a physical character who's just slightly behind the rest in terms of damage without droplets.
>>721794341Nightmare feels like a must in modern JRPGs. Every "normal mode" in jrpg feels like the dipshit level difficulty for newcomers. Nightmare in the OG game was stupid, but in sky remake it feels like the actual normal mode if you understand the combat.
Estelle is so cute. I never thought any vidya girl would strike me fancy as much as Kat from GR did, but here we are.
In case anyone wants the mods from loverslab that got "taken down", LL is actually still hosting them, along with every other mod uploaded to a certain point. Which is where I just downloaded them, and now I will reupload, in case anyone searches the archive in the future. Spitefags btfohttps://files.catbox.moe/k3aq9v.7z
>>721794907AoE are generous enough in this game, you can hit all the enemies easily enough with most characters, though you usually don't want to during boss fights to prevent everyone raging at the same time.
>>721794748>that won't be necessaryAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MAKE IT STOP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>721724730Where did the 80 hours thing I kept seeing posted come from? I've just entered the final chapter and I'm at 35 hours. This is playing on nightmare of course with extra time spent on a bit of grinding.
>>721795342Based thanks, I had the Tita one but wasn't sure what else was deleted
>>721795490No idea. It's definitely longer than the original but it's really not THAT much longer.
It shouldn't be longer than the original. Whats up with jrpg new fags and wanting le epic 100 hour games
>>721795950it isnt
>>721795878they added new stuff but they cut out a lot of the backtracking with fast travel so it ends up about the same
gameplay kinda mid fr fr no cap zesty
>>721796178This but unironically. They should have brought in the actual cool orbmant system the later games had.
>>721796056i'm aware i'm just bitching about normal fags who gloat about jrpg bloat. Remake is good for having the same amount of hours as the original, the og game was already rich in quests and dialogue.
>>721795950The game would def benefit from reducing the amount of combat, pointless random npc interactions and cutsccenes
Finally I'll get the opportunity to play this game, but I have a question. What's the difference between normal and hard difficulty? I know it's a long vidya, so I don't wanna grind a lot for a specific boss or stage.
>>721799124It's based on games from 2004 so the difficulty does not hold back. I recommend playing nightmare mode to fight for your life in the tutorial.Or better yet play the original.
>>721787564there's a fan voice mod of the original FC's chapter 1 and it works, so no cigar
>>721795085play the original
>>721799315Faster.
>>721744057is combat turn based or action?I want to run around and smack niggas, don't really want another turnbased combat right now
>>721801057Very simplistic combat with some light attacks and heavy attacks. You use it to build the targets stun gauge then go into turn based mode. Also used for clearing weak enemies once you're 5 levels higher than them so you don't even have to turn base them.
>>721801430It's 95% turn based essentially and all bosses will immediately start in turn based mode
Man, NG+ Nightmare with the +50 level modifier just makes everything an annoying tank.
>>721802442There are NG+ modifiers? Nice
>>721799798with anime sprites theres this general level of abstraction going on where you arent seeing the actual events that happen and you need to imagine how it actually looks likethis naturally leads to leaning to extreme anime tropes to communicate ideas to the playerwhen you start having higher fidelity assets and animations and voice acting you can convey ideas to the player just fine without heavy abstractions and in that context having Extreme behavior starts becoming unreasonablelike you dont expect geralt to smash ciris head with a frying pan for being uppity in witcher 3, the context doesnt work for it
>>721724730Yeah like my PENIS LMAO
>>721724730The story of Estelle is just about nepotism.She gets preferential treatment from the guild due to her father and an ex-ouroboros bodyguard on her bracer qualification journey.What a joke of a story.
>>721804959Finally someone gets it. If you want to nepotism at least do it to Anelace. She's more capable than Estelle but Estelle erased her from story lol.
>>721804532That's great bro, Sky 1st added more anime faces from Coldsteel so your point doesn't make any sense. The OG portraits were not extreme either. They were normal expressions.
>>721736462Why? Russians will never stop being subhuman
>>721761002>Milking the seriesThey've got nothing else. By adding a ton of filler, spreading it into multiple games, and actually changing the plot, they can secure a sales lifeline for a while. Meanwhile people would still want a faithful remake. Which could actually happen, and then you'll get tons of DLC.
>>721805297They existed from the get-go. They just went unused.
>>721806595They did? But it really does feel like I haven't seen that sprite outside of 4chan. But that chibi Estelle illustration is so damn cute!
>>721806595>that bedroom eyes expressionhmmm
>>721736308I want a kick in the nuts from Daiwa...
>>721808503>that bedroom eyes expressionwhere?
>>721809017
>>721736308Falcom didn't invent brown twintails.
>>721795490are you doing side quest8axrks?
How long is the demo?I just saved the children in the tower and am starting to like this game.
>>721810051You're halfway to the end
Does Estelle's Comet scale off STR or ATS?
>>721810051Depends on if you do all the side quests and talk to every NPC after their dialogue changes. It is between 5-8 hours depending on how much you rush through it.
>>721743994from what I've seen in the demo and stuff my friend showed, the translation is accurate, seems like EOPs and people who don't bother looking stuff up just trying to stir shit up
>>721731809>>721731348By my arts, you Will make a save on normal
>>721736308Same way falcom got away with mixing mint into sailor moon and calling her star
>>721739186Estelle is derivative of mint and sailor moon. It's mint that is derivative of and an expy for Lina. Through genetic drift estelle and Lina have almost nothing in common
>>721795085>ChuuniAnd yet people will seethe at xstelle for being too cringe. Estelle bleeds sincerity
fuck I might have to play this eventually
This game has some hidden cuties.
>>721811495>>721811569Umm actually Estelle IS original, her name is not Mint and she's not a sailor. Dumbass.
>>721799876I did
>>721811271This fight is barely doable. The rematch with him at the end of the prologue however is straight up RNG on NG nightmare whether he fucks your ass or not.
>>721724730is this game worth playing OP?
>>721814260You can try out the 8 hour long demo for free anytime.
>>721811271Haha... looks like I'll have to turn on Retry Offset... (Reverie's bullshit broke me)
>>721814627I probably wont though.
>>721810250Nobody knows huh...I'm just gonna assume ATS and continue on my way
>>721814148>he fucks your assWow he does?>>721812554Anelace and Estelle make a great team.
>>721810250I would imagine ATS since it is doing magic damage
I have no idea what to do with Tita other than spamming blind and having an additional clock up ex caster.
>>721815139ATS. That's why it says it's not a physical craft and the damage number is blue like arts.
Can you still spam protect spells to cheese bosses?
>>721815679Earth Guard/Wall? It's what you are supposed to be doing to go through nightmare indeed.
>>721769559Acksually, the internet calls is CSAM now.
>>721811271Hard is the real nightmare. Nightmare is just for masochistic rng cucks.
>>721815163>Anelace and Estelle make a great team.Indeed. SC prologue is one of my favorite parts of the entire series because these two had amazing chemistry.
QUICK NEW MODS ARE OUT AND THEY FEATURE YOU KNOW WHO QUICK GRAB BEFORE ITS GONE
>>721816418>no linkfaggot
>>721813537True. Every orange twintail girl I see is automatically Estelle for me.
>>721818382No hair vents, not Estelle.
>>721730315Stop being self conscious about what a bunch of autistic no life faggot virgin losers on the internet think about what difficulty you play on and just play on the default difficulty the game intends you to play on and is balanced around
>>721736602Stop America invading everyone else then
Why did they bother to blur the menu? Seems a really odd choice with how clear the top is and you can still kinda make out what is meant to be on it.
>>721817549fuck off newfag
>>721816418based
>>721724730>atelier yumia>54125 physical sales on ps5 (27810) and switch (26315)>14067 concurrent player peak on steam>3.5k ratings on psn in nearly 7 months>announcement celebrating yumia as the fastest-selling game in the franchise with 300k+ in 1 week globally>sky1st>42964 physical sales in japan on ps5 (21511) and switch (21453), 11161 less than yumia>19169 concurrent player peak on steam, 5102 more than yumia >3.3k ratings on psn in 1 week
first time player with this remake, just gave agate the serum; gotta say this game's writing is 100% pure weebshit, and I mean that with every negative connotation of the term. Why is it so beloved?
>>721822116Setup before the payoff in the 2nd game.
>>721822236If he thinks FC is weebshit SC will make his fucking head explode.
>>721822116ragecuck stop seething
>>721820637>Korean MMOs Cash Shop be like
>>721815679It's not even needed. You get extremely powerful in the remake with so many extra points of damage coming from follow ups, bursts and finishing blows. Once joshua gets blackfang you just one shot the monster rooms and leveling is now taken care of each chapter. Only the start of the game is hard.
>>721822116dang that's crazy I was thinking the complete opposite
>>721815349She's for piercing the defense of nightmare enemies with her physical shots and AOE craft damage. In modes without that problem she's not especially great.
>>721822116games like this aren't for serious people who only play serious games like gears of war on their serious console xbox
>>721822718I play plenty of jarpigs dude, compare this game's character interactions such as estelles embarrassed outbursts navigating her feelings for joshua and vice-versa to something like Dragon Quest 11 that features a great cast of characters, and a comfykino adventure that leans minimally into weebshit territory by comparison.
>>721822116>Plays weeb game>Complains about weebshitThe fans of the franchise ARE weebs.Anon are you fucking retarded?Enjoy your (you)s i guess
Does this game have optional objectives in boss battles like defeat enemy in 40 turns or have nobody die during the battle?Hated that shit in CS games.
Those who are playing the Trails in the Sky remake full game, how would you rate it in a scale one to ten?The demo gave me an impression it could be a 9/10.
Are there any thong mod out? Spats are great, but imagine Estelle with her short tunic, and a thongAlso, post the anime "did you think you'd see my panties, too bad I am wearing spats" Japanese comic strip
>>721823662it's as a package and sort of in terms of polish the best trails game yet imo and i love trails games (i dont really care for number rating though)
>>721823662I'm 40 hours in and it's a 10/10 but the game was made for me so don't listen to me
>>721823387No, but it has a boss you can lose to
>>721823876Nexus has one from _QED that has Estelle in a thong i believe. Maybe it qas Schera, i dont remember.
>>721823662I like the first 5 games the most, so naturally i like the first game of them all alot as well. The remake does quite a lot right. I wish Nightmare was a little bit harder but overall the remake is a 8.5./10. Id give the original the same score.
>>721823662the nuts and bolts of the product are fine but it's woefully mid. wasn't expecting to be stuck with only two characters most of the 44hrs i played so far, and unlikable ones at at. Can't get behind liking Estelle since I'm not a teenage girl irl.
>>7218236629/10, i docked a point for the clumsy localization (not directly falcom's fault but they did hire them)
>721824271ragecuck go back to /fg/
>>721821062Damn, Estelle won bigly.
>>721823662I have already played the original and I remember that it took me until chapter 2 to get very invested.I just got to chapter 2 and the gameplay has made the experience a lot more enjoyable. In the early chapters, although how pretty the game is and nostalgia factor into that. But in the original I thought Chapter 2 to the end was brilliant so yeah, I think this game at worst is a 9/10 for me
>>721821062i thought atelier had become way more popular after ryza
>>721823662Like 7/10. It's a very generic RPG with absolutely nothing special about it, even for the time. Games like FF10 and Baten Kaitos came out around the same time so there's no excuse.
>>721824692Well, they did get the normalfag and retard audience now. For what its worth they got more popular indeed.
Forgot how long the play was but it was nice seeing it in the remake with the new character models.>>721824824>absolutely nothing special about it, even for the timeI would argue even now not many RPGs change NPC dialogue as much as the trails games do giving each of them their own little arcs as time passes. It is just a nice touch that gives them more personality and adds to world building.
>>721823662Depends if you have played the old SC.If yes it will be a 8.5/10.If not 6/10 just because of the ending.
>>721825334>talking to the NPCs that don't have a green, red, or blue icon over their head, ever????They say the most generic shit imaginable. ChatGPT could come up with more interesting dialogue
>>721825334D-Did they..k..kiss?
>>721825512No. Joshua has his first kiss with
>>721825334i don't like how real this looks in the remake. made me feel second hand cucking for poor estelle
ugh, schera looks so good in the fine diner costumes. also the clocktower cutscene is godlike in the remake. its a scene that 100% benefited from being in full 3d with the hug and everything
>>7218258973rd Anguis
>>721823662As a remake its perfect, as a game its amazing but not perfect. A 9/10 fits it
>>721824271You missed the point of the story if you aren't invested in the future generations.
>>721825897cassius when he was 11
>>721826135She needed it along with the whole school arc where she starts shifting her mindset beyond thinking of Joshua as just her brother.
>>721736308>>721724730what the fuck are people doing to be struggling past the prologue? You'd have to be skipping all of the content and not even trying to minmax anything to still be struggling in the midgame
>>721826678Glad Joshua is a faithful boyfriend and did not touch lips with that whore who shares her name with a german football player. On the other hand, that whore got her whore heart stolen just by a guy being close to her face. Just stick your bird up your whore ass and LEAVE MY COUPLE ALONE
>>721826135Estelle is an enormous cuck. She tries to give Joshua up to every girl she meets
>>721826909The myth of consensual cuckoldryestelle:I consentKloe: I consent (You): I don'tIsn't there some random coping yumejoshi you forgot to ask?
>>721827265>isn't there some random coping yumejoshi you forgot to askYes, Joshua.
>>721826251Yeah, that scene was pretty great.
>>721828070Did you make a screenshot where Joshua hugged Estelle on that tower? I loved how he's been a little forceful when he put his arm around her. It really gave me think "Ah, Joshua is so cute and so dependable"
>>721828216Yeah.
>>721828261KYAAAAAH Saved! I was so immersed in the cutscene that i completely forgot to take a screenshot.
>>721826135The (almost) second hand cucking and her feeling bad about it is basically what kickstarts her realizing she wants Joshua.
this thread reeks of femoids.
>>721828907They wish
>>721828379Don't soak your panties over a hug, ma'am.
Trails is at its best when the plot stays within the bracer work and character-focus
>>721828907Shut up, bitch.
>>721791682Accurate and it's a problem of numbers and not enough use of the systems they already have.Enemy mechanics aren't impactful enough that you need to care about them even on Nightmare, Rage is supposed to be there as the big scary moment where you need to worry about debuffing and Impede but you can completely skip rage phases because the game lets you wombo combo stunned enemies with delays so they never take a turn and die from 50% without enraging. Status is unreliable, can't be used on a lot of bosses but then when you can do something like AoE Blind a group of physical attackers with Aero Storm then you just auto-win the fight.I'm surprised how few options there are to buff/debuff ATK/SPD/DEF and how unreliable the ones we have are, because those seem like they should be something you can let players land consistently without breaking fights. I understand why the boss needs to resist Petrify, but it shouldn't be resisting Def Down>bosses just stand there the entire fight, they don't really move or do anything that utilizes movementThere have been a few fights where enemies wind up ground AoEs that you can see and have the option of either Impeding or moving out of them. If you move and don't Impede they effectively lose a turn because the attack will hit nothing, so moving is the most effective option. In general though there is not nearly enough of this going on
>>721829559>you can unlock Estelle's knight outfitI cannot fucking wait.
>>721829559Every JRPG can be broken and abused if you know what to do. That newcuties starting on Nightmare have issues staying alive is proof of it. Anyone that is a veteran and wants a bigger challenge can download the difficulty mod on nexus which nerfs early game Shield and buffs enemy values.
>>721829746I am a newcutie thoI'm figuring it out as I go but it is not rocket science
I don't like how bland the world looks in the remake. Also Nu-Estelle and Joshua lack cuteness. Maybe they're targeting women with this one or maybe the times have left me behind.
>>721829121god schera is so hot
>>721731008how are they a power fantasy when every bad guy is holding back and stronger than you? raen is a faggot
>>721829920But women like cuteness.Also disagree, everyone is still cute, some more than others
This line was definitely for the veterans.
>>721829823>it is not rocket scienceIt's not, but if we believe this thread, people have issues even with Cock&Shield.
>>721830138
>>721830138>>721830289It was very in-character for Estelle I thought.
>>721828907Sky is unironically and not trolling a feminine game. It has a female protagonist, a male love interest who fills the checkmarks for the feminine gaze and has the kind of personality women adore and fantasize about. The main lead is an unsexualized woman with nothing extremely spectacular about her but still ends up at the center of the plot.Estelle has a constant stream of other women to talk to and get super girly with. The talks she has with Jill and Kloe in the Academy are the most girl/woman-coded moments in the entire series.Now with all that said, these are all good things. Because Sky was still written by a man, so you don't have the absolutely retarded shit that happens when a woman is in writing it, like insanely stupid romance drama or absolutely dumbass misunderstandings.>So you're saying male coded games just naturally are badNo, because then the Sky writers proved they weren't hacks by making Sky 3rd and they nailed a male-coded game as well. They just also were smart enough to leave out the things that make male-coded writing absolutely retarded, like haremshit and powerwanking.
I will never forgive geocuck for turning a quirky and genki girl with a big heart into some screeching walking meme.
>>721830470>like haremshit and powerwankingH-Haha..
by combining the largest and smallest team members, i will create the ultimate team
>>721830470Men just do it better than women. Even sexually.
>>721830289wtf is estelle's title anyway?stick slut?tomboy tornado?
>>721742449dont fall for obvious bait from someone who cant even read japanese man
>>721830978The CockblockerGet it, because all she does is casting clock up and earth wall over and over
>721831142>replies to his own post from a day agoragecuck classic
>>721830786This only works if Tita rides around on Zin's shoulders as a mobile turret.
>>721831359Elaborate
>>721831828She raises your cocks and proteccs
Olivier is so lucky...
Kill all dubniggers
penis penis penis penis penis
>>721833463>"...and then you stick your finger up his butt to make him release every last drop in your mouth"
>>721823662If you're a first timer or a Coldsteel+ only it's a 9/10 probably the best remake in a very long time.If you're an OG it's a 6-7/10 based on how much soul is gone. The character writing in the original fanfiction was so much better. And the gameplay too suffers from too much ADHD one more+++ follow up! It also breaks the lore where the combat mechanics were tied to specific inventions in orbal tech. Wtf is the point of combat links in Coldsteel when random farmers from Liberl can do it. Also compare the airships in the original and the remake. Not a lot of budget there Kondo.
>>721830470>The talks she has with Jill and Kloe in the Academy are the most girl/woman-coded moments in the entire seriesSchool Arc is peak desuwa
>>721724730remake is shit. the humor is toned down. the jp VO is stiff.
sex with tita
>>721834101don't pretend you can compete with agate
>>721833972>the humor is toned downIt was mostly a fabrication by localizers in the original.
>>721834171*Renne
>>721834274so the remake is more true to the JP version?
>>721834274/v/>we want cold hearted super accurate machine translations>wait not like that
>>721834590Nta, but yes. Geofront, xsneed and nisa; all of them raped the original script hard. censorship, memes, complete fabrications, you name it.
Trails of Subhumans.
>>721834171Do you actually compare yourself to fictional men?
>>721834709Most of /v/ hated anime games the moment they actually start to resemble anime so that tracks
>>721834762>complete fabricationsthey just took estelle and turned her into a caricature of herself and turned up her bitchy-ness by a 100.
>>721834274If you're talking about the "I'll beat you with my GIANT STICK" stuff, then yes, but I never found that very funny.If you're talking about things like Estelle's relationship with her Dad, Estelle getting into fights with literal children, the misunderstanding right at the start of chapter 1, all the subtle winks at the camera, etc. then that's all very much still present.
>>721830470>The main lead is an unsexualized woman with nothing extremely spectacular about her but still ends up at the center of the plot.Nothing spectacular about her besides her personality which shines so bright she's called the Sun and she uses her charm to solve every challenge in her life. And she just keeps winning.>Save the boy>Save the kingdom>Save the rape victimlet me put it another way, If Estelle were in Reans shoes, you-know-who would have stayed in class 7 and been her 6th boyfriend.
>>721835003Estelle is so lucky..
>>721833820>If you're ok with xsneed fanfic it's a 6-7/10fify
>>721835000I found the stick jokes better than the remake because the original read like it was written by a human. In fact it felt like someone actually passionate wrote it with their own sense of humor instead of a pajeet with google translate.
Finished the demo and I adore Estelle and Joshua’s chemistry. They really do feel like family
>>721835492Fuck off you dumbass niggerbastard. Go suck troonslator cock somewhere else. Like /fg/ where you obviously spend all your time in. Fucking faggot.
>>721835506And that's exactly why it's okay for them to have sex.
>>721835630NPCposter detected
>>721835492you just know 'people' like these play jrpgs with dub kek
>>721835630>>721835807Ragecuck...
>tfw can get schera aero storm right at the start
>>721835492Please read an actual book once in your life, holy fuck
>>721835896whatever that means, trooney
how do i unlock the sex cutscenes?
>>721835956>Oooh ho ho
>>721830470You say all this yet as a man I always liked Joshua's original design while the remake version comes off as too far in the "for women" direction.
>>721836131What are you talking about? Clearly they're just good friends. No one could be attracted to him, right?
>>721835716Yes exactly
>>721836004Muh book
>>721836459The moment Joshua saw that tight ass of hers developing he knew he had to tap dat sheet for the rest of his life
>>721836606don't you have a street to shit in?
>>721836848Weird to call your own mother "street" :/
For some reason I can't imagine 3rd in full 3D, it's gonna be weird when they get to its remake
>>721724730I played the demo and turned it off before I even entered the town you're supposed to go to. How do you guys handle the shitty writing and cutscenes?
>>721834812It was a joke autist
>>721837143by having a soul we bypass the filters
>>721724730playing on nightmare and so long as you have up to date gear im not really feeling the pain
Estelle has a really nice ass
>>721837114can't wait for star door 15 to get removed.
>>721837410If we go by the newer games they retconned the retcon and her backstory is intact. If they depict it as realistic as they did then there should be no problem besides the higher age rating. It is nothing to jerk off to but actually a horrifying experience.
>>721837410The worst they'd do is remove the shock image of her naked and scarred, they'd never remove it. Hell they even made a little summarized version of it in Daybreak 2
>>721837410Why do people keep saying this? Kuro kept the references to Renne's child prostitution history, if it's fine there it's fine in 3rd.
>>721837284It's too anime, in a bad way
>>721837782>image of her naked and scarredIs that still in the EVO edition?
>>721837875Dunno, and I don't see it on youtube so I can't verify one way or the other.All I can say is I hope they just adapt it exactly as it was, the shock value is a pretty crucial part of what made it so memorable and impactful.
>>721837875censored
>>721838135A wiki says it was indeed censored in the EVO version but voice tracks were still made and accessible through game hacking. So the full uncensored experience of 3rd is on PC only. Also uncensored on Steam.
>>721837821Nigga do you even remember what happened there? There's a naked raped child on the floor with blood crosses across her whole body, how in the fuck would you show this in current dayThere is no way that scene stays
>>721838348that's a lot of X
>>721838348>got abused so hard she developed multiple personalities to cope with the trauma>5 years later she jumps and dances in bunnysuits and tries to fuck VanKill Falcom.
>>721838348This has already been retconned in Kuro 2.
>SC for pc stutters whenever i walk or turn the camerait's definitely not my pc as i got a modern one. but i cant seem to get rid of this stuttering. its the gog version. any tips?
>>721724730This remake is great if only for the modding possibilitiesI'm enjoying modding in sexo outfits a lot
>>721838395Well, if the fucking vita version could not get it uncensored in a time where the vita was known for their borderline hentai otaku games on it (glorious times) then i doubt the remake will give us all of it intact
>>721838545Van's got that BCC
>>721838719Try turning off vsync maybe?
>>721838348not canon anymore
>>721837357Too bad you wont get to see that ass in panties for the remake sequel
>>721838348I'm out of the loop here. Is the censorship the sheet on her body, or was the entire scene removed from certain versions?
>>721838969that is not the fix, but i should try rtss and limit my fps to 59. it fixed the frame pacing issues in this remake so maybe it will fix it there as well.
>>721839048It's the sheet.
>>721838719>it's definitely not my pcit's user error, game is butter smooth with everything on Ultra at 100+FPS on my 3060, but then again I use hundreds of windows tweaks and specialized nvidia drivers with custom inspector settings
is daybreak 2 as bad as people say I'm gonna buy it if it goes on sale on monday
>>721839048you should leave this thread and play the games, people are talking about serious shit.
>>721839329It's fine, but it really feels like the series went back to nothing fucking happens level of pacing like CS1 and 2 were.
>>721839329It's a game that if you skip you wouldn't miss anything story relevant that wouldn't be explained in one line from a character in kai (3rd kuro game).Treat it as Sky 3rd without the side stories/doors.Just a heads up.The main villain is a literal who that was never mentioned before and will never be mentioned afterwards.
>>721839638>The main villain is a literal who that was never mentioned before and will never be mentioned afterwards.amazing>>721839634Better CS1 and 2 than 4 and Reverie, I suppose
>>721839329I'm a couple acts in and I like it well enough so farSome small gameplay improvements over the first game and it has my favorite pair introduced in Hajimari so the story is fun so far
>>721839329Ehhhh, just temper your expectations and you'll be fine.I think the biggest thing that turned some people off is that it goes for an outright comedic style with several of the plotlines being obvious farces. The other games have a throughline of comedy in them as well, but they tend to be more subtle.The game is also clearly rushed at parts. I still had a good time with it.>>721839720The final connect event with them and Van is great. Just a bunch of punchlines without even bothering to set up the jokes.
>>721839329I mean. If you like IF and Compa games then the Kuro games are fun and the fanservice is nice. Turn based battle system jrpg is always nice to play if decent enough and the Kuro games are decent enough. Its just the huge tonal shift that irks me and others that got into Kiseki with the first games that is killing it. Just curb down your standards and you will enjoy it. I did.
>>721839319yes, it has to be my nvidia drivers or something. turning off vsync gets rid of the stutter but introduces tearing.
>play evo on the vita its the best experienceYeah, no. PC with video and voices mod is all you really need. Keep your hands off the portrait mods as well, they suck. And CG mod just censors 3rd for you.
>>721840010tearing happens when framerate exceeds your monitor's refresh rate, so cap your framerate using the following formula:Refresh - (Refresh x Refresh / 4096) = FPS Capexamples:240Hz -> 226 FPS180Hz -> 172 FPS165Hz -> 158 FPS144Hz -> 139 FPS120Hz -> 116 FPS
>>721840330so at 60Hz should be 59 fps?
>>721840582guess so!
man i really miss when trails wasnt so comically powercrept. There was a clear distinction between b rank bracers, a ranks, and the extremely rare s ranks. When i played daybreak everyone felt like they could nuke a continent
>>721840647thank you, honey
>>721839394Renne deserves happiness.
>>721840697Need not take everything seriously, remember Ries S-crafts in the 3rd
Schera's onee san laugh + boobs bouncing when using her first S-art is the best part of the remake
estelle LOVE
>>721840818Renne gets all the happiness in the world from fucking over older men all the time as retribution from what she had to go through
Fucking your brother is morally correct
>>721840963She should kill all men and be happy with Tita.
>>721841045preach onee-sama!
>>721841045This, protect Renne at all costs
