Why did Carmelita hit the wall so hard?
>>721726762she married pierce brosnan. that wasn't a wall.
Is granny still alive in the void?
>>721729652>>721729054>>721726762I swear to God I dreamt this exact thread six months ago.
>>721729652no
Last lace 3 is a fucking terrible fight. This is just asinine, like everything wrong with the game in one go
got a few cold ones and started grinding lost lace. just got to p3 for the first time, the instant second wave attack gets me
>>721726762Ant queens literally turn into fat gross egg-laying factories after they settle down.
>>721730057I don't think I'm going to bother with the inevitable dlc, lost lace and coral tower already tested my patience to its breaking point I don't think I can take even more bullshit bosses and gauntlets
>>721729652She made the cocoon to protect Lace, and she used up the last of her silk to try to get Hornet and Lace back to the surface, I'm pretty sure she's dead dead.
>>721730079You gotta stay in the middle and double jump and float/clawline over each wave. If you go to the wall you're fucked. It was a rough lesson to learn.
>>721730057>>721730215Those were fun to me because I bothered to learn how to play the game.
>>721730450yeah I figured using the wall was bait. somehow I always forget about clawline in fights
>>721730215Coral tower is fun.
>>721730695they were fun to you because you're a tranny and a sperg, also brown
>>721730695If your bosses most threatening move is to teleport inside you you fucked up somewhere
>>721730814it's quite literally cancer
How the fuck did a handful of aussies make this ? The art assists alone must number in the 10s of thousands, and all of them are beautiful.
>>721730821Buzzword spam.>>721730903She doesn't teleport inside you, you're just running into her. Honestly, crying about coral tower invalidates any opinion you have.
>>721730910Dude I died to the very last double jellyfish wave in the very last room before you unlock the shortcut. It was quite the worst possible choke and I still enjoyed it.
>>721730903What are you people doing to her to get her to teleport into you, fought her like 10 times and I've seen it happen maybe once
>>721730963Small soulful group of talent white people, no one to taint the vision or rush the game. This is what gaming used to be all about.
I liked Coral Tower. Was it meant to be a full region originally? It felt like they crammed many enemies into a gauntlet. I wish they made it a full region instead of Bilewater.
Act 3 is simply mid. Sorry not sorry. The Metroid escape sequence was the highlight and everything else was weaker than that.
>>721731234I don't careI think it represents the worst of silksong design philosophy, especially since I was looking forward to coral forest the most out of all the areas they showed in the initial traileroh you were expecting a fun area with unique platforming and navigation challenges? have some cock and balls torture gauntlets instead
>>721730450What are you talking about? Going up the walls is a solid way of avoiding the waves.
>>721731563If you watch the original trailer you can see some of the original coral area. It got replaced by Blasted Steps/Sands of Karak.
>>721731563Bilewater is kino, but yes, there were clearly some full areas that got scrapped because they went against the lore of the world, with the citadel destroying everything around it and all, maybe we'll see them again in dlc.
>>721731664The second wave comes from the wall too fast before you'll be over the first one.
>>721731629Just git gud, bro.If you're crying about 3 little waves, full of easy enemies, I'm guessing you didn't even touch the coliseum in hollow knight.
>>721731923you should have been aborted
>>721731923I finished Trial of the Fool and I'm still mad about Coral Tower
>>721732028Boo hoo.
Did people actually have trouble with Corral Tower? It's not a joke? Fucking HOW? How is THAT what you had issues with of all things?
>>721731842No it doesn't, not if you actually jump from the wall instead of just waiting for the wave to pass by under you.Continue sprinting to the other wall afterwards, and you have plenty of time to climb it and jump over the second wave too.
>>721732125sameI don't know what this mongoloid is talking about, coral tower is a hundred times more obnoxious than the trial of the fool
>>721732125No, you didn't, unless you're mad because you wanted more, in which case, me too. Boss should have had more health too.
>>721732125Why, it's way easier, you can tell right off the bat going from the Void enemies to the Coral ones that they die quicker to make up for the fact you might have to redo them
>>721726762Finished my psychologist sessions and she said im a introverted schizoid, recommended group therapy which i will not attend.Crest for this feel?
>>721732224I'm pretty sure most of the crying in these threads is shitposting by trolls, but if you see how the average player plays this game it isn't really that surprising, go watch some dsp clips and that's how 90% of this board plays and behaves like, and then they expect to be taken seriously.
fromslopware and its consequences have been a disaster for the vidya race
How does a beetle fuck a spider and create a hornet? Their penises and vaginas aren't even compatible with each other.
>>721731235>run where she does her most threatening attack exactly onceok big dawg
>>721732584She's named Hornet because she trained with the bees, not because that's her species. Do you think every guy named Peter is made out of rocks?
>the only way to be canonically soulless in hollow knight is if you're a speedrun trannyokay that is funny
>>721732494This, the heavy casualization of the souls games have gaslighted a generation of tourists into thinking they can play anything, but movie games on easy mode.
Just beat her. Felt great tanking through all her dumb flurry moves. God, I love Beast Crest + Flea brew combo.
>>721732494unironically this
>>721731235use your grapple
>>721730057i had lots of fun with beast crest and the fight finally felt like I had a use case for down dashing
>>721730215I love hearing shitters cry post more
>>721732612What attack is that, the spinning one? I hate that one too
>>721732479I've watched youtubers and streamers>Walk around 1 hit from death with a heal in reserve because they're panicking and refusing to recognize they're safe>Actively jump into slow moving projectiles moving in a straight line>Legitimately say "There's too much going on" when there's two enemies on screen>Compare every mild platforming challenge to the Path of Pain>Refuse to learn the diagonal pogo and only rely on the wanderer's crest>Only start using tools when they get the cogflies because they're literally just "press button for free damage">Refuse to sprint or dash in combat>Refuse to fight enemies>Jump headfirst into an enemy and unironically say the enemy floated into themI don't know how people this stupid exist, genuinely.
>>721731235I was trying to fight her like o would every other boss but then i learned that just standing still and slowly walking is how to beat her
>>721733129Oh and they always complain about double damage, but are always suspiciously quiet at all the other enemies that don't do double damage. Literally a case of>Take 1 damage>"...">Take 1 damage>"...">Take 1 damage>"...">Take 2 damage>"WHY DOES EVERYTHING DO TWO DAMAGE"
notice how no one was particularly critical of the game but simply cited a couple of parts they didn't enjoy and immediately jeets and brazilians activated the >GIT GUD GIT GUD REEEEE SHITTERS STOP IT JUST STOP BEING MEAN TO TEAM CHERRYprotocolthirdworldisation of vidya discussion
>>721733129The reality is that while things are harder in silksong on average because the difficulty is better balanced and more consistent, nothing in this game hits the peak of hollow difficulty in my opinion. No plataforming sequence is harder than path of pain, no gauntlet is harder than trial of fools, no boss is harder than the endgame dlc bosses in hollow knight, and your moveset is so much better, it allows you to do and get away with a lot more. This is why I know anyone complaining never bothered playing the first game.
Why yes I killed trobio on my second try how could you tell (has upgraded the needle 3 times before fighting)
>>721733427Well the term cock and ball torture was used, I don't think anything in the game is on that level
>>721732760>Aw man Lois, this is rockier than that time I went to a convention for guys named Peter.
>>721733427Your brown and tranny deflection is getting old, you're probably brown yourself, so stop with the self hate and just git gud, bro. No one here thinks for a second you aren't just shitposting.Captcha:PARRY
I really liked Karmelita but did her health pool feel oddly bloated compared to every other main quest boss or was that just me? Felt like she just takes way longer to take down from hits alone even ignoring that she's way more demanding than Khann or Nyleth.
>>721733107yeah this spinning uppercut. If you're too close you have to instant scuttle or cross stich, if you're already in the air when she starts it up you must down dash or cross stitch. their positioning at this moment was juuust far enough to not get touched by it. I'm not sure if they had practiced that positioning or not because their default reaction to lace taking any stance was to jump which neuters her entire moveset EXCEPT for that attack which requires proper pre positioning.
>>721733462>No plataforming sequence is harder than path of pain, no gauntlet is harder than trial of fools, no boss is harder than the endgame dlc bosses in hollow knightthe only part that is remotely true is the platformingsee if I was a braindead brownoid like (You) I'd mock you for finding trial of the fool hard but thankfully I'm white and I understand that people will react differently to any given challenge because difficulty is inherently subjective
>>721733718>n-no u ur the brown one!!!yep, definitely a 80 IQ favela ape
>>721733730I think that's intentional. Each of those 4 bosses has a different emphasis and hers is the straightforward duel. They wanted to keep her out of burst range and force you to engage with her patterns.
>>721733226Beastfly and Morwing legitimately mind broke most people (myself included)I'm still mad and it's been literally two weeks since Beastfly 2.It was also the hazards doing 2 as well.
>>721733730It's more like her health was fine and every other boss had way too little, crust dude went down first try, prince was piss easy outside of the runback, flower girl was easy when I stopped fearing staying near her, Carmelita is the only one who feels appropriately challenging.
>>721733732It has a different animation from her regular combo at least but it's hard to react to it on time, it doesn't always get me though, it is stupid that every other attack can just be jumped to counter though
>>721733730if you want to burst her you need a souped up rock hard mondo beast cock
>>721733895Is the emphasis on Clover Dancers supposed to be it somehow being worse than the base fight
>>721726762I got to sinner's and good fucking lord is awful, went to steps, is easier but then another fucking flying duo, unnistalled.
This the nigger zone
>>721734131Pretty sure that entire zone was just lore rewards for exploration and having gone through the Green Prince's sidequest. Compared to the self-contained poetry of the phase progression in Clockwork Dancers that fight is fairly rote.
>>721734063Beast is too fucking op.
>>721734131>The Snail Shamans want you to get "powerful souls" but they forget to mention the Green Prince>His memories are focussed on his hard work to hunt the Pale Stag, but when you fight it it's one of the easiest bosses in the gameI think he just canonically sucks ass
>>721732224>Coral tower is a series of fights before the boss>When you finish the gauntlet, you get a shortcut to the boss so you don't have to do it againI don't get it either.
>>721732224There is a concerning amount of players who did not see the shortcut
I got Garmond's help for the hh's gauntlet, did it first try, then later saw all the posts of people crying about it.
>Trying to do Widow hitlessHer second phase is just so hectic. Any tip?
What the game desperately needs is a crest with two spell slots and one tool slot, I nominate Reaper.
who killed bro
>>721734623It really comes down to when you go through the high halls and how willing you are to facetank a hard arena. If you don't do it until the end of Act 2 it's fairly reasonable.
>>721734645hug wall
>>721734750Why is he half white?
>>721731235Both situations where she telefrags you requires you to be playing stupid or like a bitch.>doing a full speed sprint across the arena can cause you to run into where she pops out of the ground>spending the entire fight wall jumping on the left or right walls can cause her in-air parry counter to spawn inside of you as the diagram shows
Lost Lace and Karmalita reads inputs. A bit disappointing they went for artificial difficulty but it's only those 2 bosses
Dueling Garmond (and Zaza) was kino. No I don't care that it was easy. Highlight of my second playthrough.
>removes restrictions on blue and yellow toolscongrats Team Cherry, I just fixed your game
>>721730450i just went to the outer edges of the room and double jump clawlined over the incoming wave when it started to go downpiss easy
>>721726762Sexo
>>721732396You can cure this by sitting and doing nothing with a timer. Only thing you have to do is notice your thoughts and feelings and notice how you're always safe and they always go away eventually.
After nine sols, I really can't enjoy hollow knight's collection phase. I didn't enjoy it in the original, and I'm not even gonna bother with it in silksong. I don't think having to autistically hit every wall and ceiling is good exploration. Couldn't begin to figure out where my last few memory lockets are, even if I give in and look them up it's a pain to find the one or two that I've missed. Just fucking show what is left to find in each area.
beat this
>>721735712it should have been an option once you get the farsight in act 3, there's a system like that in prime 3 where you can use an observatory in one of the areas to find where your missing upgrades are
>>721732760yes I do think that
>>721726762>Why did Carmelita hit the wall so hard?try birthing a million children while maintaining your figureshe was already a MILF by the time you fight her, well into her ara years
>>721734063i genuinely hate this fight
>>721735712It's a hard balance because having an objective tally means that cleanup becomes a checklist. It also leads to situations where there's zones of the game you never return to because they're marked as no longer having items, which means you're not going to find any secret paths they might have to other areas. The recursive exploration is the bread and butter of the genre, Nine Sols was just exceedingly linear in that regard.
>>721735854How do you git gud at this? I was only barely able to beat Grishkin and I hear some nigger is going to come beat my score.
>>721736197You can control what direction the fleas go depending on how you hit them. Certain crests make it much easier/harder.
>>721735681schizophrenia =/= schizoid personality disorder
>>721735712You don't need to find every item man.
>>721736165>small marks on the map for things you've found>npc that gives hints for things you haven'tI think this would solve it.
>>721735712>even if I give in and look them up it's a pain to find the one or two that I've missed.your own fault. you get like 50 markers in the game. use them
>>721735006He's Gurr's brother. His name is Nih.
I drew Hornet Silksong
>>721732494Absolutely. Can't wait for this fad to be done.
>>721735681how long?>notice your thoughts and feelings and notice how you're always safe and they always go away eventuallyany more detail on that? i think if i set my ass down i would end up thinking about the same old shit and yes notice that i'm doing it, and yes eventually i will get DISTRACTED by something, but i don't see how this happening will help me. i probably don't have schizo/id though
>>721736483Nuu gives all sorts of hints for areas that still have enemies and bosses you haven't encountered, which covers a good chunk of stuff you might miss
running back to a dream boss fucking sucks fuck you team cherry i'm more than capable of dreaming of a bench you talentless hacks
>>721730057>everything wrong with the game in one goFlying adds don't spawn mid fight so no
>>721736608Now draw her facesitting Sherma.
>Hornet gets captured and stripped naked by canonically foul smelling fat flies that shoot sticky, incapacitating goop at her.This is straight up H-game content.
>>721733730It's because you can only get one-two hits on her at a time since she's so aggressive.
>>721736757sattou0 is the GOAT.
>>721734131It's just meant to provide an easy alternative in case one of the other 3 hearts is giving you too much trouble. I never found where the Pollen Heart is for example.
It's funny how the weavers have effectively been established as the chozo equivalent, but we already know basically exactly what happened to them
>>721736757>And you may find yourself living in a rune locked cage>And you may find yourself in another part of the world>And you may find yourself behind the reins of a large bellbeast>And you may find yourself in a beautiful bell, with a beautiful belle>And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did I get here?"
>>721736840If you pogo off of her, you can juggle yourself over 90% of her moveset and just keep getting hits in
>>721736562This is one case where the early game economy was a detriment. At no point in act 1 did I ever have enough money that I felt like I could spare any on map markers. Especially since in HK I never needed to use them. And even if I had them, I don't think I would have had the foresight to tag every mask shard and spool upgrade I found. By the time you have the money to blow on map pins and have realized you should be marking the things you've found, it's too late and half the map already exists in a quantum state where you don't know what you've found until you recheck it.
>>721731564Platforming challenges are the best thing about SS, hopefully the DLC has a bigger focus on that u like HK's combat focused ones
>>721736619it's never going awaymitsubishi should be put on trial for what he's done
>>721737142I had the opposite problem, I could usually always buy maps and markers, but then left stuff sitting in shops for hoursWorks out since I always knew where those would be
>>721729652sexo
>>721732584DIVINE COCK
>>721737142There's a reason you get quests to reexplore the first maps at the same time as you unlock new abilities. Generally speaking I think the whole quest system's reception has been unfairly harsh.
just beat Lost Lace, but I don't feel like I learned anything from the fight at all.>only a few punishable attacks>you have to be in the correct position to bait her to do the jump after the double dash>except there is a lot of bullshit going on in the screen already and she either do something else or you get hithow do you beat this shit consistently?
>>721734063facetank beast chad
>>721726762I feel like she should have been named Skarrmelita.
>>721737486Don't make unnecessary movements. Annoying as fuck but it is what it is.
>>721729652Yes, we'll fight Grandmother Void during the next pantheon.
>the rosary beads are red coralD E E P E S TL O R E
It's not just the claw people don't use, I'm watching people play the game and they never fucking use the dash attack, wtf?
>>721736165Outer Wilds ship computer logging events and telling you there's more to explore if you missed anything worked pretty well. It would be a huge QOL boon for Silksong to log what you've found in areas and vaguely tell you if there's more to find
>>721737479>reexplore>unmissable tracking markers that tell you exactly which linear path to follow to find the target
>>721732584The etymology of Hornet comes from "Horn"
>>721737652the higher value ones are made from shells and pearls
>>721737616I mean, hopefully. I know get fight was balanced with the cursed ending in mind, so we really need a harder version of her fight.
>>721736562Pins don't help if I didn't scrutinize every wall and ceiling for slight irregularities.>>721736284I know, that's why I still think the game is very good. I explored as much as I wanted to, enjoyed it, and simply accept that I have missed a few things.>>721735859Yeah I don't care how they execute it, but having at least some form of guidance about where your missing stuff is would make me actually want to fully explore.
>>721737486If you attack into her attack, you will clank with it. You can use this to maintain space pretty much constantly.
>>721737741The problem is that SS is filled with secrets that could be anything from a rosary cache to a boss fight to an item to an entirely new area
>>721737486I've only beaten her once and haven't fought her since but I feel like you can get consistent at her first two phases, no idea what's going on during phase 3 though total clusterfuck
>>721737486Cogflies don't really do as much damage as people think late-game, even with poison. The benefit of using cogflies and the silk darts is they tell you where Lace is so you're not guessing while she's blending in with everything else.
>>721726762I'm heading to her as we speak, she filtered me before the last nail upgrade, but now I have better gear and build. Bitch is getting nuked.
>>721737550That's like calling your child Humanfred or Humanuela
>>721737741No metroidvania needs this, just explore the best you can and accept you won't find everything in your first playthrough, that's the point of replaying games, if you're autistic about 100%, just look a guide.
>>721737741given how expansive so many areas are and the amount of hidden walls and such I was surprised they didn't have a per-area completion percentage to help you tell when there's more to do without giving it away or something
>>721736165I do feel there's a lot of cases in Silksong over Hollow Knight where there's whole areas hidden behind pixel hunting more without having more than a slight visual cue at most to distinguish it. >the entire Volt part of Sands of Karak>Wisp Thicket as a wholeThose are just the biggest examples.
>>721731842Are you not using the charm that lets you sprint faster?
>>721738034rabi-ribi told you when you completed areas and it's one of the best
>>721738015what about Guy
>>721738015Manfred is a real name
>>721737948You forgot about the classic shard caches where more than half of their contents will be lost to spikes.
>>721737486she's a memo boss that punishes you when you're out of position. If you want to reliably beat her you have to be super fucking boring. Full dashes are often punished, committing to a 2nd swing is only done when you're prepared to jump the parry, etc. Once you get the memo reactions done you can get through P1 & 2 pretty easily. P3 just has shit on the screen so you're expected to have the memo down so hard you don't really have to look at Lace to know what to do so you can focus on the hazards.
>First Sinner with Witch crestThis is an absolute shitshow but I'll be damned if it isn't fun.
>>721738145The volt area has a large beam of light, and wisp thicket is in a very conspicuous gap of the map that also has a flea hinting its location.
>>721737479That part works. I didn't have much issue finding the places I'd left for future upgrades. It was finding the stuff that I'd just outright missed that was complicated by having to recheck things I didn't miss because I no longer remembered where I'd been. One thing that would help with that is a more conservative map fill. I had two separate instances where I thought I had explored an area because it was filled in on my map only to later find that I had apparently barely stepped into them before going back out and continuing on elsewhere.
I beat her first try. How did people get filtered by granny so hard?
>>721738145Those aren't hidden at all and they're all optional short areas.
>Trobbio 2 No tools no cheese only the nail the perfect boss fight
>>721737479the only quest I had a negative reaction to was that citadel enemy farming one where there's only a chance for the drop, it made me think the game was bugged
>>721732325It's not the difficulty, it's the fact that it isn't a real area.
>>721738579I don't mean to alarm you but damn near every five seconds of this game has bugs.
>just beat Cogwork DancersHoly fuck that was actually a fun boss. No bullshit, no tricks. Just a neat gimmick, and an intuitive flow.Last phase was sad as hell though.Anyway, Act 2 really seems to open up nicely, I'm not fighting for my life as often, and the exploration in the Citadel is pretty fun. This game gives you a harsh start for how smooth the midgame feels
>>721738034Genuinely awful take. The kind of take that gets rightfully mocked the very instant a feature is finally by somebody with sense.
Am I the only one who never had any trouble seeing lost Lace? I never lost her from view even in phase 3, is it because people are playing this on a tv away from them, that they're having trouble seeing her?
>>721738369The greatest fight with the coolest crest, probably what I enjoyed the most in the entire game.
>>721738268The magnet not working on shards is probably the only thing I'd actually change because complaints about the shard economy are overblown. But they probably thought it wasn't a big deal because you can just buy shard bundles.
>>721738692Whatever you say, saar.
>>721738661I've seen some people theorize that the early game is so hard to beat you into shape for the combat/platforming later while there isn't as much to lose and it seems about right to me
>>721738579For me it was the bell quest before I realized how they spawn.
>>721738465>filtered by granny so hard?Never seen a single poster get filtered by one of the easier bosses in the entire game are you just trying to do some kinda gay humblebrag?
I start to get the feeling that all the Act 3 haters are Wanderer spammers that are getting filtered by void mobs.
>>721738578>not doing your own pyrotechnics with bolas and pimpillosThat's just disrepectful.
>>721738919I figured it out pretty fast and just farmed them in the area below the fast travel since a bunch spawn near the entrance there thankfully. I can see how it'd be confusing as fuck if you didn't figure out they respawn though
>>721726762I don't get why people say this boss was hard
>>721738579And then they drop on spikes.
>>721738973exploring act 3 feels miserable, and there is a quest that wants you to explore this garbage world all over again
>>721738661The dancers were pure class.
>>721736608nice bugpartsbut her head is too small
>>721738973Wanderer and reaper mains are the biggest shitters and complainers, architect is not included because actual mains know what they're doing, most people just switch to it momentarily to cheese a boss.
>>721739092>there is a quest that wants you to explore this garbage world all over againWhich one? The one with the 12 void nests? There are more than 40 of these all over the map, you don't have to explore every part of it.
>>721739059boomerans>jumpget hit by boomerang>no jumpget hit by boomerang>jump just rightget hit by second wave boomerang>jump just right and jump again waiting for the second wave boomerangshe do soemthing elseit's bullshit
>>721738993>That's just disrepectful.He has so much personality and style love that guy. It's like he's showing off to the other faceless bum bosses.
>>721739092Based, I had fun doing it.
>>721739079yeah it seems super weirdly designed. "Let's add a quest where you have to farm this item with a 1/3rd-ish drop rate off of enemies by searching their corpses in an area where half of enemy kills drop directly onto spikes"and then you try farming them manually because you don't want to bother with the frustration of the spikes and think it's broken because there's no logical reason the enemies would only have a chance to drop their visibly dropped swords
>>721739092the random screaming every couple minutes pisses me the fuck off
>>721737486it's a shitty patience fight. p3 is easy if you just dodge and wait for her to do one of the easily punishable air attacks, get 1-2 hits in with wanderer depending on the attack, and repeatit's just super fucking boring.
>>721733787are you okay? you seem to have a terminal case of seethe
>>721739092If you are referring to the void mass quest it doesn't NEARLY require you to kill them all. I filled it out just by playing act 3 normally.
>>721738034>accept you won't find everything in your first playthroughI'm not going to play through this shit again to find stuff, that's an insane ask. I might be able to saw off more than half the time on replay but even then the game is just too fucking big. Maybe I'll wander around my current file trying to find the few things I missed. The most replayable games are ones that are less than an hour long to 1cc not some epic fucking metroidvania. Symphony of the Night is much more replayable than Silksong by virtue of being 8.5 hours long on a standard play.>if you're autistic about 100%, just look a guideA game needing a guide to find all the collectables is a bad thing
>>721739234>There are more than 40 of thesethere should be 0, the only good thing about act 3 exploration is how Qixote is dealing with the enemies, and then he fucking dies
>>721738578No thanks. Bullet hell bosses are gay.
>>721730057Game needed more fights like Lost Lace to be quite honest.
I admit I had to look up that I needed to hit those floaters' quills. I thought my game was bugged.
>>721739092Only thing I don't like about act 3 is that there's no way to restore Belhart's music.
>>721738578every burrowing boss sucks ass
>>721732224It's a lot harder if you don't have the last pale oil
>>721738661It was also one of the easiest bosses. In my experience anyway. Not that it's a bad thing.
>>721738973Wandererfag here, I mainly did Act 3 because some anons said it's the best thing since SOTN's Inverted Castle so I went for it. And holy shit was I disappointed.There are some memorable moments like Bell Eater, Coral Tower, Karmelita, Verdania, but it wasn't worth doing all those tedious side quests for. Giving every enemy in the game the same shitty attacks is just lazy, and even if it's a good challenge Lost Lace is such a lazy fight compared to Radiance.
>>721737882>crippled a boss because of an optional meme endinggoddamnit team cherry, cool fucking design wasted on being the easiest boss in the game
>>721739462It doesn't need one, but if you're too lazy to explore and yet want all the rewards like a child in need of handholding, yes, just search for help online.
does he survive? I can't find him in act 3
>>721739731ye
>>721739731did you check the survivor camp? i don't remember if he's there or not
>>721739632>some anons said it's the best thing since SOTN's Inverted Castleyeah that's obvious horseshitI thought act 2 was much better than act 3
>>721739224Out of all the modern gayming trends, "maining" is the most strange and baffling to me. Limiting yourself to a single weapon/character/option and making it your entire identity/personality is asinine. Like, this isn't a MOBA.
>>721730057it is fucking terrible, yes. but not the for the reasons you're insinuating. it's terrible because it's the THIRD TIME YOU DO THIS FIGHT. no, adding black projectiles and a terrain hazard doesn't make it a new fight. boring as fucking shit.
>>721739491>Bullet hell bosses are gay.It's the best kind of bosses that can exist in video games objectively
>>721739515I pray they double down on everything shitters are crying about, but they already started nerfing everything, plataforming in certain places has no tension anymore because they got rid of double damage. I honestly hope people make note of everything they nerf, to add back with mods.
>>721739632Worst thing since inverted castle
>>721738973I mainly used Wanderer and void mobs gave me no problems. I just disliked how all the backtracking felt monotonous because of how much you have to already do just to unlock it, and silk soar didn't unlock enough new places. It felt more like doing a checklist instead of a new act.
>>721739390Yeah, that bitch needs to keep it down. I'm trying to juggle fleas.
>>721739793the what
>>721736635that anon is literally just describing mindfulness meditation
>>721739931>he didn't do the act 3 deliverieslollmao
>>721739975I did almost everything in act 2, I don't need rosaries anymore
>>721734352There's multiple ways you can
>>721739975>act 3 deliveriesyeah I'm not doing that
>>721739276lol nub
>>721739931Bone Bottom camp relocates to the first flea camp in act 3.>>721739975Only one I did was the lacquer for the lore, beyond that they were completely irrelevant.
>>721739931There's a little camp in the Marrow where the fleas used to be. He's there.
How to elavate this game from a 9/10 to a 10/10:Remove reaper and wanderer from the game.
I'm still stuck on the Weaver. Probably finish act 1 and move onto something else. I am not good at this game at all
>>721739731>hey we need a shit load of shards to restore the camp and give some hope to these people>uses them to build a giant statue of himself
i think there's just a lot of fatigue going into act 3. Getting there asks you to backtrack to previous areas to reexplore them, once you arrive at act 3 you're asked to do it again. There's barely any new zones, barely any new bosses and the new roadblocks just serve to make exploration more annoying. If most of act 3 was axed and the gems moved into act 2 the game would have been better as a whole.
>>721739059She's in the category of bosses that punish the player for getting too greedy, especially in her later phases, so she's hard for people who get impatient instead of going with the flow.
>>721726762I’d anteather if you catch my drift
>>721738973>what's that? act 3 is bad because it's lazily designed, narratively incoherent, half the bosses are fighting over the title of "worst boss in the game" and the world is completely ruined by void vomit everywhere?>no bro you're just getting filtered by voided moss crawlers!lol?
>>721740224>How to elavate this game from a 9/10 to a 10/10:Hornet and Lace come out of the computer screen and fuck your brains out when you beat the game.
I had such a great time fighting KarmelitaActually going on to fight Lace V3 but voided is such a fucking let down.
>>721739059Phase 3 is hectic and leaves little room for damage and building up silk and much less healing
>>721738578I beat him on my first try no tools
>>721740408With their futa cocks.
>>721740347Part of it too was very little actually changes in the overworld beyond the Void Hearts littered all around. Some of the shortcuts you have to break again but it's honestly not many and they're pretty easy to reset. There's very few new enemy spawns and placements beyond existing ones getting VOIDED, I think the Craws in Greymoor getting replaced by Jurors is one of the few that actually change and mechanically they aren't much different?
>>721740473the more i think about it the more i realize you could stick karmelita in act 2, cut the remainder of act 3, and literally nothing of value would be lost.
>>721740475I did her phase 3 first try, I didn't even notice her doing anything different.
>>721729652Yeah she's just hanging out down there for all time.
>>721740224>How to elevate this game from a 9/10 to a 10/10>Remove the shit I don't even use but am conceptually not a fan of from the game
>>721740293If you can get to act 2, I feel like things actually let up some. In act 1 things get harder faster than you get upgrades and new options. But that reverses in act 2.
>>721740503No anon, imagine... Silk-made cocks.
>>721740584But I like act 3 and want it to stay.
>>721740293I believe in you anon, you just have to do that and go left to defeat last judge and open the door to the city
>>721739059>mess up once>deletes you in three hitsIt's just a very punishing fight.
>>721740584I liked nyleth and the climb to the surfacebut yeah outside of that it was kind of trash
Imagine in Hollow Knight, if the true final boss wasn't Radiance, but was just Hornet for a third time but with additional generic Infection attacks you've already seen before.
>>721740682The joke was that people getting filtered and leaving bad reviews are mostly using those crests.
>>721740584this is nearly all of act 3. all the heart bosses can be bumped to act 2, silk soar could get bumped to act 2. the only things that can't are the kino lava escape sequence and the abyss which fucking sucks shit.
>>721740861Okay I didn't realize you meant the review scores rather than just a personal scoreWouldn't they just get filtered even faster without those crests though?
>>721740691>>721740719thank you bros you're belief in me has filled me with courage to continue :)
>>721740224I wouldn't wanna do Path of Moderate Discomfort with the diagonal pogo. The part with the metroidy enemies you have to bounce on would be too much of a nightmare.
when lost Lace starts doing the exploding sphere shit, is it close to dead? almost been at it for 3 hours. I only die to the homing orbs or not being able to see Lace through the void pools
>>721741093Yeah, just don't think about it too hard, ok?
>>721740293Weaver is one of the harder inflection points of the game, at a point when you have the fewest tools. Keep at it.
>>721741163The three orbs that appear? She does that during phase 2, when she goes up in the air to do it though that's a free hit you can get in before running away from the void shots. You'll know when you hit the middle/phase 3 by the very obnoxious wait into two jumps and a reappearance by her.
>>721741163Yes.Spam tacks and cogflies at that point and hope for the best.
>>721741139Witch and shaman also have easy mode pogos.
>tons of silk pickups on the way>forgot I had beast on
>>721741139I did that part with architect crest, I just used the clawline instead of the pogo
>>721741163>homing orbsStop jumping. Just walk. Be wary of Lace's position. Make sure she is on screen as much as possible. She teleports often when offscreen.
>>721732224I didn't have the last weapon upgrade nor had cogfly. I went and got both and one tapped it.
>cogflies were nerfed
>>721741481Not for bosses, just for traversal.
>>721741481Good.
>tacks and cogliesnah I find those tools too boring. I like the curvesickle because it can hit her 2-4 times when she teleports behind me after being on the ground for a second, or when she starts summoning orbs.
>>721741139Just learn the 45 degree angle man, it's actually easy as shit and even better in most areas of silksong. Don't confine yourself to shittier attacks because you don't want to fail 5 jumps as you learn.
>>721741608>>721741324ment for
>>721741429Lost Lace I swear is the fuckiest boss in the game. She blatantly input-reads for parries, she can change the direction of an attack mid-attack, I've even seen her cancel out of a move and just appear in mid air above where she was with no animation.Nowhere near as hard as the ultimate bosses in HK but just garbage design.
>>721740847>ignore 80% of the context of both games>make retarded comparison to say the first is better>getting filtered by the narrative of silksong, of all thingsShiggy diggy
>>721741608>witchYIKES
>beat Radagon before the nerf>beat Sister Splinter before the nerfI deserve a tshirt
>>721741675I did and I used Hunter for most of the game after unlocking Focus, but I still would not want to use it at THAT particular spot.Architect was fun too until they nerfed the charge.
>>721741724You could have still had a big final boss against a Void Silk rather than having the final boss be Lost Lace, without necessarily compromising the narrative they set up I think.
>>721741732doing 140 damage when you heal at the right spot is very satisfying
>>721740584Coral King was based, the tower climb was kino.
>input readPost ignored.
>>721741608Now THIS is a build.
>reach the first out of 3 boss in Act 3>it's a gauntletI burnt out from this. It's so over.Was it really necessary to include garbage gauntlets in every fight again?
>>721741841I presume you meant Radahn?Radagon was never touched by balance patches
>>721741608Is the mirror damage really worth it over literally anything else?
>>721741926It seems like it would be satisfying but for me it's too fucky with the way heals are punished in this game as well as contact damage.
>>721738465The Weaver Queen achievement is just one of the three achievements you can get for this boss, depending on your prior game decisions. Those stats don't necessarily reflect 4.4% of players being "filtered" between Cradle Lace and GMS
>>721741841>>beat Sister Splinter before the nerfAnd nobody really cares because she was easy as fuck before the nerf
>>721741997Oh boy you're gonna LOVE the third boss.
>>721742081I saw some dude beating lost Lace with base nail in the time I spent beating her normally, just by doing a few witch heals on her with the mirror.
aren't we cheating? not only are we using a tool to go faster, we also hit him with it
>>721742009Too many "R" names in that fucking game
>>721742081mirror was made for the witch crest exclusviely
>>721741997devs weren't up to the task of creating interesting, well-balanced bosses that were of sufficient difficulty given hornet's maneuverability and insane healing power, sadly.
>>721742212He's genetically engineered bug born for running fast.
>>721742097Can you skip the first ending?I wouldn't imagine many people are ONLY getting the cursed ending.
>>721741997there's actually a secret 4th boss that you can replace one of the two gauntlet bosses with (and it's much easier)
>>721741481is it not listed in patch notes?
>>721742212He literally makes the rules so it's his own fault.
>>721740861How the fuck do people get filtered using Reaper? I've been using it since I got it.
>>721741724>it's LE NARRATIVE, le ART, le VISIONHang yourself. Reusing the same boss 3 times especially as the final boss is bad.
>>721742212The fucker can fly and makes a track to race someone who cannot fly, where flying is basically needed. He cheated via track design.
>>721736839They're just indians
>>721742408Because it's baby mode crest despite not being good, so it's a trap for shitters, wanderer it's the same, except it's actually op, which in turn makes people succeed without putting in the effort and then just get filtered later.
>>721741719>She blatantly input-reads for parriesno she doesn't it's based on distance. if you just walk up to her she'll parry fish and fail
>>721742212I didn't even know you could hit him. I won race 3 because he has an autisim fit at the end of each lap.
>>721736839
FUCK THE UNRAVELLED AND FUCK HIS ENTIRE EXTENDED FAMILY
>>721742212This fucker literally flies past every single obstacle without engaging with their geometry or mechanic. He's the cheater
>>721741719She literally doesn't, all of her variables are proximity based and can be baited out.Parry for example CAN happen after every physical attack if you are close regardless of attacking or not.
>>721742649I guess everyone just really sucks then because I haven't had any trouble outside of the usual trouble you'd have regardless of crest usage. Then again I have seen people saying they died to Moss Mother 4 times so I suppose there are a lot of retards out there.
>>721742696she's just like me frfr
Is there a more meaningless complaint than input reading? It's almost never used correctly.
>>721742408Reaper makes hitting things easier but in terms of DPS it's the lowest. So it's good if you're not great at hitting your opponents in the early game, but falls off if you want to do a lot of damage really quickly. Later on you get Shaman which is even easier at hitting things and can DPS better with spells, so Reaper ends up being one of the worst crests. It's fine in Act 1 and for most of 2.
>>721742482I think they were going for a Vergil type character but she's really not
*makes your 9/10 a 10/10*
so why aren't there any good male characters in the game?
>>721742698KEK, yeah you can do half the race halfassed and still catch up every last turn
>>721742914>WHIRRRR
>No menderbug >Only repairbug diesWhy does pharloom hate the trades so much
>>721742902I finished collecting the 3 hearts in Act 3 last night and doing all the other extra shit like the Pinmistress, the race, the hunt quests etc. Used Reaper the entire time. I will probably beat the game with it.Are most people who are playing Silksong just really fucking terrible? I consider myself not that great at it but maybe I'm underestimating myself
>>721742914>Dev's thinly veiled fetish
>>721742926Sherma is right there.
>>721742914>Groal the kino>kinowaterBased and peak metroidvania.
>>721743034It's more like the other crests are quicker to win with. You can be good and use reaper, it's fine. It's just that everyone else will be clearing their fights before you're even past the first phase.
>>721743030No he doesn't?
>>721742926Garmond is literally THE hero.
>>721742131both her and moorwing were easy as fuck I don't know what possessed them to think nerfs were necessary
>>721743034It's fine to use reaper if you like the moveset and aren't just using it as a crutch, I've seen one or two good reaper players, I know you exist.
>>721742890none of the input reading in silksong is really unfair, it's just enemies reacting to things they can see you doing within a reasonable timeframe
>>721739869She's the vergil of silksong. It was obvious that we would fight her multiple times.
>>721743087religious nut that needs saving by Hornet and is too dumb to understand that the faith is corrupt>>721743208past his prime loser that dies
do I wake him up? the world is in ruins
>>721739869>s terrible because it's the THIRD TIME YOU DO THIS FIGHTAnon it's been like 20 years since DMC3 do you not know how this works.
>>721743272It's so people don't hit a wall in the first 2 hours and refund
>>721742926Phantom was the best boss fight for me. Crust King also seems like a cool sentai character
Can we talk about how there's at least two giant dead wyrms where Sprintmaster is, and that the race takes place inside one of their dead husks? That's two other higher beings. Where did they come from, where did they go?
>>721743034I'm in the same boat as you of reaper just feeling most natural to use, don't really get the dps complains because outside of paper the differences really aren't significant enough unless you're playing totally optimally like a speedrunner
>>721742926Ghost literally saves Hornet at the end.
>>721734750I think he's actually just faking since i saw him throwing me the new boomerang in act 3
>First Sinner spawns a horizontal blade on top of meThe only flaw in an otherwise perfect fight.
>>721740293Widow is probably the hardest part of the game at the point most people normally get to it.After that your options open up massively and you can usually get around any walls through exploration or itemisation.
>>721733730Great fight, I hated most of it. Her hitboxes felt gigantic and that I was never safe, her giant sphere kick into spike move is BULLSHIT and she uses it so often
Tormented Trobbio is literally the only fight in the game that I think is badly designed
>>721730215>coral towerWow you must fucking suck lol>>721734063Flea drank is so fun
>>721743593if you wouldn't stick with moorwing for the absolute maximum 5 attempts it takes to learn his easy patterns and school him I feel like the game just isn't for you at that point
At least he still repaired the camp
>>721743523Let him nap.
>>721743781If you think Savage Beastly 2 is anything other than digital AIDS, you're crazy.
>>721743668I don't think those are wyrms, anon. Their head is quite different. Also the Pilgrim's Rest settlement is built from one such carcass.
>>721743723genderless
>>721743673I equipped Longclaw and went back to Wanderer for a bit just to see if it felt as good or better and it just didn't. Same with Architect. The big, rhythmic arcing slashes from Reaper just feel really good and intuitive to use, especially when you can time a boss and squeeze them in between its attacks,.
>>721742327You can go straight into the "ending" leading to act 3.
>>721726762>game has groups of enemies>games has bosses>game has platforming>game has exploration>game has challenges to test your limits in all these aspects to test how well rounded you are>this is bad somehow
>>721743781Him being so mobile and covering the screen with hurtboxes is tough but at least he's easy to hit during the spin attack
If you jerked Sherma off do you think he'd make the same noises he made in Whiteward or what
>>721743668iirc it's implied by some hollow knight dialogue (mushroom guy I think?) that wyrms used to be more common. Either way we don't have much room to identify wyrm corpses since we only see pale king's molting husk
>>721733730I don't think she has that much health, it's just that you don't get a lot of punish windows, especially in the third phase because she's constantly moving or attacking. I thought the fight was cool up to that point, then it started getting annoying. "When is it my turn" type shit.Still nowhere near as fucking gay as the gimmicky Nyleth fight.
>>721743603>Phantom>Male
>>721736608extremely based, now draw her impregnated by the MC of the first game
>>721744071Yes. He's a grizzly warrior wanting an honorable death in combat. This is an archtype that literally and fundamentally cannot be female.
I'd just like to sayFUCK MOUNT FAY
>>721743924yeah, I spent like an hour fucking around with wanderer and it was decent but it just didn't feel as good. Whenever I replay maybe I'll try experimenting with other crests more but for now I don't really see myself moving off of reaper
>>721743995No. He'd make the noises he was making in the bath.
>>721744154it's just rocks man what's the struglge
>>721742926Trobbio is by far the most iconic character in all of silksong.
>>721744154I'm really really bad at the game and I did it with only a few deaths
>>721744186IT'S COLD
>let's turn Lace into Vergil>in a game that's so big it'll be 20 hours between every time you see her>also there's nothing interesting about herwhat were they thinking
>>721744154mount fay had me in genuine pain but it was kind of fun in retrospect
>>721744242so haul ass to the next beacon and warm up your britches, you'll be fine
>>721744154Did you at least get the hidden bench? I didn't until after I'd already made it to the top.
>>721744245to be fair they also do that to vergil
>>721733226I think my only real complaint is contact damage shouldn't be two masks if they're not moving as part of an attack or anything, but other than that yeah the complaints about 2 mask damage are extremely overblown.
>>721744154>tfw beat Mt Fay literally hours before my 34th birthday>my hands were in such pain I had to not play for two daysBest area in the game.
>>721742212>faggot literally dismantles it after every race to prevent you from running the course for practiceFuck him.
>>721742926sherma and trobbio are probably the two most iconic characters, plus there's garmond and the flea guys
>>721744245absolutely hate that cuntespecially as now we're stuck with her and she'll no doubt be part of the next game, why couldn't we have saved garmond instead
>>721744368wear a compression glove, that's been a night and day difference for me being able to play for extended periods on controller
>>721742926Kratt is literally me.
>>721744167I think it depends if devout followers of bug religion demonizes sexuality like in Catholicism.
>>721744463I rarely get that much wrist and thumb painSilksong has kicked my ass.
>>721744329This one?
>>721744558>demonizes sexuality like in Catholicism.silktrannies truly are redditors it's not a meme
>>721744148She's wearing a dress
>>721744615seethe christcuck
>>721744463>compression gloveAre your hands made of marshmallows what is happening in this thread?
>>721744154one of my favorite areas but fuck the beginning that is deceptively long that makes you question whether you actually need some kind of heat protection
shermabros?
>>721744613No. Breakable rock wall on left when you go up a room
>>721744613There's another in the next section behind a breakable wall.
>>721744613You're not there yet.
>flea at the exhaust organliterally how? I swear to god if that's some act 3 bs or maybe I'm just retarded idk
>>721744613there's two more benches further up the climb
>>721744682I've got an autoimmune disorder that causes general inflammation, so things that'd be small twinges and some soreness for most people are more serious for me. Also your hands go to shit in your 30s if you aren't careful.
>>721744786The latter, there's an exit in the organ itself.
So what were they making the giant robots for? Citadel preparing to take over the world? The Twelfth architect probably tells you but I didn't exhaust her dialogue.
>lurks threads of a game he hatesWhy are they like this?
>>721738009WHere's that tool from?
>>721744786If I remember right you just float for a bit
>>721744786It's the latter. Look in the organ.
>>721744786nah theres just some breakable wall or something inside that lets you leave on a higer exit
>>721744621He's wearing one suits with a tailcoat. Not a dress
>>721744558I haven't seen any evidence that they do. And Hornet is half weaver and half pale being. So if anything, not being in to it would be blasphemous.
>>721744329>He didn't find the secret bench after that painfull climbI'm so sorry for you anon even if it was days ago
>>721744862Pretty sure it's in the memorium
>>721744668dilate kike
>>721744621She's wearing a tailcoat.
Are you supposed to be able to climb on the ice wall at the top of the room? I couldn't fugure out how to get up the ledge after the last bug
>>721744864>>721744832>>721744865>>721744876thanks for confirming my suspicion
>>721743913cope or mental retardationghost and pure vessel are men
Can someone actually make the next comfy thread, it feels like I'm the only one making these for some reason.
>>721744931>kike slave calling someone a kike
>>721744928I guess Ill take another look in the electric area then
>>721743863>>721743939My plan worked flawlessly.I beat him shortly after complaining like a little bitch about him on an anonymous Pharloomian Silk Weaving forum.Now I can go have consensual sexual relations with Lost Lace in peace after refarming a big stack of shard bundles since I wasted so many on Trobbio
>>721745094Killing half of the best farming enemies in act 3 is the worst choice Team Cherry made
>>721744891Lace and Phantom are sisters, they're both artificial daughters of GMS
>>721743781>Tormented TrobbioThat's the best boss in the game it's such a treat
>>721745026yea sure
Phantom is a girl because I want to have sex with her.
>>721745007Why is Hornet called the Gendered Child if other vessels were gendered too?
>>721745224Phantom is a guy, Lace is a girlIt's Phantom talking in the memory, referring to Lace as sister.
>>721745212Yeah, it's really annoying. I'm not even sure where I should go to farm effectively anymore.
>>721745034>kike slaveI'm not american
>>721744912I found that one too later. That one didn't annoy me as much since it wouldn't have made the climb itself any easier. And once you have the double jump getting back up there is super easy.
>Phantom is a guyIs this new schizo?
>>721745260First Sinner is the best boss, no contest.
>>721744786>>721745000>mrw didn't hug the wall hard enough the first timeyup, I'm retarded all right, btw fuck hidden/breakable walls
>>721744982Yeah, there's a wall up there you can cling to across from the ledge you want to get on to.
>>721745423>phantom of the opera character is a maleSeems logical.
>>721745332All Silk beings are female, anon.
>>721730057I think my least favorite part is once you hit the part where the floor gets flooded suddenly you have so much black overlapping Between Lace constantly teleporting you also have to keep track of all this shit happening and they made it arbitrarily harder for zero fucking reason That and I swear they made her hitboxes larger but didn't change the actual animation. I don't remember getting fucking vacuumed up like this during the 2nd fight and it's fucking cancer. I'd have resorted to poison tack spam if I wasn't out of beast shards by now
>>721744928Yep it was there thanks
>>721745680Says who?>>721745423>hurr durr schizoWhy? There's zero, absolutely zero, proof that Phantom is male.
what the fuck happened with act 3they had 7 years to make this shit
>>721745904Act 3 would've been so much cooler if you were forced to descend manually from the citadel to bone bottom and only then got back the bell beast. Imagine if they made all areas in that path as fucked up as wormways instead of just making random aids champions
>everyone says Seth is hard and Nyleth is easy>kill Seth on my third try>meanwhile I'm on my 12th Nyleth attempt and I'm losing my mindI feel like I must be retarded or not understanding how you're supposed to do this fight.
>>721726762She's over a thousand years old. Leave her alone. >>721729652No. She used up the last of her power protecting Lace and helping Hornet to escape the void.
>>721746072Use your harpoon more to cross the arena and learn to pogo
>>721746072what crest are you using? What tools are you using? Seth feels really fast and punishing with his explosive dive attacks while giving you little openings, while Nyleth is more about just avoiding the big explosion and doing some pogos to not drop down
>>721745801>Says who?The game?Grandmother Silk wants daughters, all Weavers she created were female, Phantom is called "sister" in the Needolin dialogue, all Weaver demi-children are female. Even failed artificial silk gods like Eva are female.
>>721740615Why are Spider's so much sexier than moths?
>>721726762>missing one craftmetal for the last toolREEEEOkay time to go see what I missed.
>>721726762Team Cherry should make a fighting game. They clearly fucking want to.
>Team Cherry forcing me to use the Hunter's Crest in Red Memory for tricky platforming after I expunged my muscle memory of it by exclusively using the Wanderer's Crest for 70 hours
>>721746232>Grandmother Silk wants daughtersChildren*>all Weavers she created were femaleUnrelated>Phantom is called "sister" in the Needolin No he wasn't, he was calling Lace sister. It's his memory, hence it's his dialogue referring to Lace>all Weaver demi-children are femaleUnrelated>Even failed artificial silk gods like Eva are female.UnrelatedHe's a grizzly warrior looking for a noble end. This is 100% a male coded character. You wouldn't get it.
>>721745904They spent six years making and cutting down the map. Act 3 is them cramming all the kingdoms they removed to make more room for the citadel but they didn't want to give up the bosses they already made or wait for godhome so here we are.
Chiggen acquired
>>721746204>>721746213That's what I'm doing. Just pogoing when she switches walls. The hit boxes on the Pollen thingies are fucking me up. Sometimes they will hit you if they land right next to you.
>>721746403You might be genuinely schizophrenic
>>721746380Fuck I just got that part too. It was a random dick move I just clawlined and double jumped everything
>>721746434I want to fuck that
>>721746380I'm a filthy Architect Casual so I eventually had to learn Diagonal pogo.
>>721746435Are you using a downward pogo crest? Its probably easier to space yourself with the diagonal pogos
>>721746342They're the only real indie devs in the financial position to do it too, since it will cost a lot, take a long time, and make negligible amounts of money unless it miraculously develops a stable scene and the devs commit to some kind of DLC money making system. It would be unbelievably kino if they did though. Some Godhome bullshit where everyone can fight everyone in their prime because of reasons.
>>721746403>No he wasn't, he was calling Lace sister. It's his memory, hence it's his dialogue referring to LaceLace was the one saying, "Why us, sister? Why us?"Because Phantom is older, Lace would naturally look to her for answers. Phantom is also more broken than Lace, so it makes sense that she's the one speaking in ellipses. Additionally, consider the following:All weavers we've seen are female. Why would GMS make a male child when she's only ever made daughters?
>>721746523I find it amusing that you've got zero actual concrete evidence so you resort to calling me a schizo. As if you're assumptions and inferences are somehow gospel.Do you have any ACTUAL fucking proof?
>>721730057>>721730215>Not liking Lost Lace>Had problems with Coral TowerHoly skill issue. Lost Lace was kino.>>721739869>its the third time you did this fight?You would hate Devil May Cry then. Rival battles especially when they're the final boss are ALWAYS kino.
>>721746640If they do make one I'm maining Lace, Hornet, and maybe the Hollow Knight.
>>721746725now I want to see Lost Lace in that shitty plastic lawn chair
>>721746725A tranny drew that.
>>721746725God, Stand by Me is such a kino film. Trannies and girls would never understand brotherhood.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7r-R61W1DQ
>>721746676>Additionally, consider the following:>All weavers we've seen are female. Why would GMS make a male child when she's only ever made daughters?>phantom is more broken than LaceBroken because male silk beings don't work
>>721746434BURD
>>721745904A large portion of the development period was Team Cherry endlessly changing their mind regarding the map.
>>721746676>Why would GMS make a male child when she's only ever made daughters?First off and least importantly, you don't know if she only made daughters. Weavers are all female but the silk beings you've only ever seen Lace and PhantomSecondly, and KEY>Lace was the one saying, "Why us, sister? Why us?"No she wasn't. It was Phantom speaking to Lace.At the most, AT THE MOST, Phantom's gender is omitted. Because he's the one speaking in that dialogue, and the Hunter's journal uses third person pronouns.And this is again ignoring that the character as he's written is male coded to the max and to say otherwise is beyond me.For fucks sake he's based on the phantom of the opera.
>>721746912>says the guy who posts troonslop
>>721746912>Trannies and girls would never understandThe brainlet movie frontloads Chris's death so the girls in the audience can understand it
I looked at my steam wishlist for the first time since the game came out and got the weirdest feeling not seeing silksong at the top of it
>yurikino is winning this year's GOTYhell yes, gaming is healing
>>721745904I know right? So much work to make ruined versions of maps and it just felt unnecessary. Act 3 should've just rail-roaded you to the abyss and had a climactic finale instead of shambling along.
What the fuck is EVA anywaysa fucking AI?
>>721747102I get that, though I gave up on trying to do ordinal sorting a long time ago, I just sort it by release date. It's been a white whale for so long and now it's here, and it's good, and I beat it. Now what?
>shipping Hornet and Lace when their relationship is basically gif related
>>721746971Better?>>721746962Why would Phantom ask Lace anything? Phantom is the prototype for Lace, she's been around longer and her degradation is due in part to why she was abandoned in the first place. Something in her construction caused her to need a disproportionate amount of silk causing her to feed off of a shitload of pilgrims, creating the Fog and all the spirits of her victims to linger. Lace is more stable, but only recently began to get the idea that she may be replaced and abandoned, an idea which only could have been planted into her head by that talk with Phantom.
>>721747126Wokes 2 will win it, sorry
>>721747235GMS wasn't the only one trying to propagate through silk. The weavers were also trying to make children.
>>721747126We all know it's going to be E33 for the narrative
>>721746848Not maining based rank and file soldier
>>721746425going by what they said about dlc they might try to graft more areas onto the map
>>721726762Last charm I need for all of them. I don't need an exact location, but any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
>>721746848Here's my theorycrafted Hollow Knight fighting roster. 16 characters. Hard mode: only using characters that are either alive or possibly still alive. >The Hollow Knight>The Knight>Hornet>Lace>Shakra>Seth >Dung Defender>A Mantis Lord >Trobio>Zote (joke character, Dan equivalent) >Bretta>Isolde>Older Grimmchild >Green Prince>2nd Sentinel>Grindle
>>721747396Is 2nd Sentinel a girl or a boy?
>>721747321>Why would Phantom ask Lace anything?It's introspection. She was in the star wars healing tube looking at her finer new replacement and knowing that in time Lace will suffer the same as she is. It's a strong memory because Phantom is seeing an image of what she once was while living the painful reality that of a degrading golem and is questioning why their god would make them just to rot away.
>>721747126Did you type this while dilating?
>>721747418Somewhere around the center layer of the citadelYou probably went past there and didn't check every corner before dropping down an one way/spoiler]
>>721732760>Do you think every guy named Peter is made out of rocks?don't you?
>>721746962>>Lace was the one saying, "Why us, sister? Why us?">No she wasn't. It was Phantom speaking to Lace.I interpreted it the same, as Phantom looking into the (magic) mirror to speak to/reminisce about Lace; but it really does look like Lace came to the Organ to visit Phantom in her metal cage
>>721747536Fembot.
>>721747418Anyone else here prefer Silksong's charm system over Hollow Knights?
>>721747235Probably a failed attempt at making a silk being of the their own.
>>721747126Is the yuri actually in the room with us right now, anon? I'll concede that it's yuri baiting, though.
>>721746912Hornet and Lace should breed with each other and create a Wyrm, Spider, Void, Silk being hybrid. >How would they breed they're both fema-Magical bugs.
>>721746725Rival fights as your final boss suck ass, whether it's this game or reddit may cry.
>>721747746There's literally none.
>>721747436No hard mode for me because I want to play Karmelita
>>721747661Mixed bag. I think the color split was in theory a cool way to differentiate various crests, but the pips were a natural balance so that stronger charms and weaker charms weren't equivalent equipment. Overcharming was also extremely cool. I do think that after so many games took the Hollow Knight charm system they needed to do something else though.
>>721747321Phantom wasn't feeding on pilgrims. He was feeding off the silk that was also provided by the Citadel but the Citadel's silk is just running out. You can see all the empty spools of silk in the Organ.>Why would Phantom ask Lace anything? The question>Why us sister? She spun us to fadeIs less a question and more a lamentation
>>721746434According to Hornet this is what peak performance looks like.
>>721726762So what are all the races in the Hollow Knight world? >Bug People>Invertebrates like Slugs, Snails, and Leeches>Plant People>Automatons>Whatever the fuck the Steel Soul things are (Void Automatons?)Is Groal a Frog or a fly? If so then Amphibians are thing too.
>>721747436Sherma/Myla duet tag-teamQuirrelCollector as a pokemon trainer equivalent
>>721747559left or right half?
>>721747436Get 5 perfects in arcade mode and you fight giga Zote
>>721726762The only decision I regret in this game is painting my Bellhome Blue instead of Red. >>721746725I like how the artist drew the fluffy lining in Hornet's cloak.
>>721748091Groal's probably a Stilkin like the Pinstresses and the rest of the sentient beings in Bilewater.The reason he looks all fucked up (and kinda like Soulmaster) is due to him messing around with Soul Magic.
>>721746912artist name please
>>721748138left to center
>>721747661I generally think it's good, but I don't find many of the yellow charms worth equipping honestly.
>>721748091Groal is a cicada bloated by Soul just like Soul Master.
Friendly reminder that the snails did nothing wrong.
>>721748252@theyslashthemonhrt
>>721747536It's literally a robot so whatever you want I guess
Nerf Lost Lace.
>>721747235A Weaver-made god to replace Grandmother Silk. She's too fragile so they gave up and hid her before fucking off.>>721747542The response makes no sense if it's Lace telling Phantom that they were born to break and be abandoned. Lace is distrustful of GMS, sure, but she desperately wants to be acknowledged by their sleeping mother.>Why her... Mother...>See me cut! See me serve!>A child, too broken...>I will not fade! I will not take!>See me, your knight...>See me, your daughter...The fear of being replaced, of being cast aside for being imperfect, this implies a rejection of Phantom's answer of them being born to be thrown away. Phantom knows she's unwanted and was abandoned. Lace desperately wants to believe she still has a place with Silk even if she also says she wants to grow beyond her original purpose.
Is there a way to Shakra or do I actually need a double jump or a super jump or something?The other areas I could go to are The Mist and the area west of Shellwood. I didn't want to go to the area past Shellwood because I'm guessing that's the way to citadel and I've been avoiding the Mist because the ghosts in that area raped me.
>>721747536In dialogue text Second Sentinel refers to itself as "it" But purely based on the vibes I would have said it's a dude
>>721732224Had to do the gauntlets about 5 times, but managed the boss on the first try
>>721748024>He was feeding off the silk that was also provided by the Citadel but the Citadel's silk is just running outPhantom created the Mist and all the wandering spirits trapped within it. All of those ghosts are her victims. The Citadel tasked Phantom and Lace with "guarding" Pharloom from pilgrims, but the former devoured pilgrims to survive while the latter slaughtered them for sport. Innocent while they both may be in the grand scheme of things, they're both rabid, divine dogs of Grandmother Silk.
>>721748417Double jump or maybe abuse taunt to drag a mosquito over to pogo
>>721747854Objectively wrong.SA2 proves this wrong (b-b-but its not the true final boss) shut up.Devil May Cry 3 proves this wrong.Pokemon Red & BlueSekiroZettai Hero ProjectFinal Fantasy 1 (Garland)BlazblueNinja Gaiden BlackI think Megaman X also did something like this? Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>721748417You missed a double jump a long time ago. You've been playing on hard mode for no raisin.
>>721748417i was in that same situation, i think it's only accessible with double jump
>>721748417Bilewater is a late act 2 area.Both Blasted Steps (area west of Shellwood) and the Mist lead to the Citadel, just different bosses.Just move onto act 2 already.
>>721734750His own tribe by the look of it. Must have caught wind of him trading with the enemy.
>>721748270Just looked it up and it's from a wish I don't have yet, nevermind.
>>721747909You'll play her daughter that team cherry made up specifically for the fighting game and you'll like it.
>>721748573The "The Mist/Sinner's Road is an entrance for less pious pilgrims" seems like a stretch to me. Pilgrims get through Sinner's Road, find a hidden wall, then die in the mist? Make it through the Mist with their Needolin, beat Phantom, then sneak in through the Grand Bellway?My headcanon is Phantom was asleep for ages until she woke up when Hornet started fucking with the haunted threads, then she started playing the organs again.
>>721748582>>721748608How the fuck did I miss the double jump? Where the fuck is it? I literally combed through everything.
>>721747661No, there needs to be more modability with it and the Crest system is half-developed.The Witch wants to spend Silk on the burst heal yet it gives you a Skill slot - why would I pick Witch for an offensive heal and then want a Silk skill? It should be a multi-slot that lets me also put in a Blue or Yellow.Shaman needs an innate way of generating Silk, it has limited Blue Slots and most of those are spent on just making the build functional with Druid's Eye, Weavelight and the Volt Charm. That's it, there is no build versatility.Beast Crest is just an absolute clownshow, where are the slots?Wanderer is vaguely balanced but then its value of high attack speed is undermined by other builds having access to Flea Brew and Flintslate.Default Crest needs something more. Some gimmicky effects like increased Needolin range would make sense as default passives for Hunter.Architect is amazing but the result it's hilariously overtuned in comparison to other crests. Architect has like 5+ distinct playstyles before you even get into all the combinations of tools, it's incredible.Reaper is the only well-designed Crest by virtue of being the most basic, vanilla balanced playstyle but with a nice easily understood gimmick on top to not offset its slower attacks and provide some mechanical complexity.
>>721748751hey as long as someone draws oyakodon I'm down
>>721748831Go through the mountain
>>721748417Technically there are some weird shenanigans using Beast Crest charged attack that can get you high enough to grab that ledge but that's completely unintended, you need double jump
>>721748309Why does Soul make bugs fat?
>>721748831Mt. Fay, in the west. The hellrun is mandatory
>>721748831Go left from one of the bell stations instead of right.
>>721748891that's what happens when you eat soul foodgumbo will make you a large lad
How much longer do i have until i reach the ending? I am honestly kinda bored/frustrated and wanna finish it and move on.
>>721748791>find a hidden wallThe most obvious explanation for most hidden walls is that since everything is underground, shit sometimes collapses and cave-ins block off previously accessible areas. But yeah, pilgrims would find their way through Sinner's Road and Bilewater in an attempt to circumvent the Blasted Steps and the sealed gate, only to wind up in the Mist and get murdered. The pious few whose song could guide them through the mist through the butterflies would end up getting hunted down by Phantom, waiting at the end of it.
>>721749006>How much longer do i have until i reach the ending?>didn't even get the three songsYou have a long way to go, anon.
>>721748841The crest system has the benefit of giving you new movesets and passives though.
I assumed Sinner's Road was the route that bugs banished from Pharloom had to take to leave
>>721748870>>721748898What mountain? Is that past Shellwood? Is that where I should go?
>>721748368>Phantom's responseAnon, the dialogue>Why us sister?Isn't meant to be a genuine question from one to the other regardlessThe dialogue is all ONE CHARACTERIt's Phantom lamenting>Why us sister. She spun us to break, she spun us to fadeIt isn't a genuine "why" it's a "why" as in "woe is us". Even assuming the dialogue IS Lace (which it isn't), it still would be JUST Lace.No Needolin memory that I can name shows a dialogue. It's always a single character's memories.
>>721749184Oh dear. To be light on spoilers, you don't need to be where you are right now and have no reason to push on. You'll figure it out later.
>>721749184You're in act 1, don't worry about getting a double jump. It's pretty much an act 2 upgrade anyway. You're best off trying to get it once you get a different movement upgrade that makes climbing the mountain actually possible.
>>721749184Oh, you're in act 1.Don't worry about it then
>>721749184Yeah you might as well go to the citadel now (either from the west or the east)
>>721748573The Mist was literally just the result of the Exhaust Organ's inner workings blowing steam into the air. The ethereal and haunted nature was just souls congregating thereIt disappeared because Phantom stopped playing the organ and thus directing the waste disposal. There was no more steam because the machines stopped.
>>721748564It has a female voice
>>721749006You haven't even started act 3 yet
>>721734063They shit on us wanderer and architectfags and then do stuff like this
>>721749006Just take a break and come back later. This isn't the kind of game to do in one sitting.
They should really have buried Shakra's mentor or at least blocked that shit off man you just know Grindle will have that corpse raided and defiled the moment they both leave That gold necklace is being melted down right now and her flesh sold off for stews.
>>721749254>No Needolin memory that I can name shows a dialogueNo other Needolin memory creates two people, either. Even then, playing to corpses usually lets you hear the voices of the dead who speak together as a group. Silk entities whose memories linger would allow for a recorded conversation between the two
>>721746242Granny is not a spider
>>721749639It's crazy some people on this site like Grindle and then proceed to call someone a nigger in their next breath without a hint of self-awareness.
>>721747661No because most of the silksong "crests" are garbage in comparison to Hollow Knights. Red tools are a weird crutch that didn't need to exist
>>721749886But Grindle isn't black
>>721749738Which memories are of groups? That's what I'm saying I can't recall.Regardless given the tone of the dialogue it's either all Lace or all Phantom, lamenting to the other. And given Phantom is they/them in the hunter's journal, makes no sense why it would be Lace.So Phantom gender is unknown, and then taking the character's archtype (grizzly warrior looking for a noble end) makes way more sense for it to be a guy. Especially given he's based on the phantom of the opera.
>>721749956He and his entire species partake in nigger behavior though. They literally rob you.
>>721749814Mommy Silk is 100% a spider look at that ass aka abdomen.
>>721750068But when white people do nigger behavior they're based and get worshipped
>>721750230>>721750230
>>721750174She's some bizarre god creature and absolutely not a spider
