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Anyone else think that Undertale is a game?
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>>721739773
Should I be a pacifist or should I use my fists?
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>>721739773
Maybe.
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>>721739895
>Should I be a pacifist or should I use my fists?
Vegan game anon.
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don't know
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>>721740030
>>don't know
>Download icon
Looks like a movie to me anon.
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>>721739984
I TIHNK I'LL KILL THEM ALL
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>>721739773
Videogames are art actually sooooo....yeah
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i thought it was a game but then i played it and thought it was just ga
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Do you think monsters eat human flesh other than muffet?
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>>721741209
>Flowey killed him before he cou
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Undertale is more than a visual novel, less than an game made in RPG maker
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Is this thread going to be boring?
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>>721743463
That's because it was made in Gaymaker instead.
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>>721743576
what would you like to discuss?
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>>721744262
NTA, but what could be on the bill for Deltarune's 10th anniversary?
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>>721744352
Spooky Skeletons in fedoras
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>>721744352
Undertale thread here, Deltasissy. Get out.
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>>721739895
>>721740202
WOAH OH OH OOH OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOHOHOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OHOHOOOOOOOOOOO STORYYYY OF UNDERTALEEEEEE
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>>721744352
Chapter 5 release
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>>721739773
It's not just a game.
It's a game
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>>721745128
Phew, for a moment I thought it was THE game
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>>721739773
why'd she_ do it?
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>>721739773
Many people are saying this
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>>721739773
Why does Frisk look like she got hit with a brick?
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>>721745329
Goatboy didn't dick her.
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>>721739773
No. It is widely agreed upon that Undertale is a mongolian webnovel.
Answer by ChatGPT
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Discord has arrived.
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>>721745435
Don't worry about it
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>>721744262
I don't know
Pre-war Surface
Skeleton Ancestry
Asgore's Pant Size
Yagi Incident
Is the SOUL a device in both Deltarune and Undertale
Is Alphys really unaware of determination created timelines
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>>721746010
How many dead bodies does Toby have stored in his basement?
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>>721745218
>he didn't in the thread to win the game
Poor anons
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All of this game’s dialog being coded as one gigantic switch statement is hilarious
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>according to gerson there were humans who fought along side the monsters
>humanity lost its magic from creating the barrier
>deltarune takes place in a world where humans and monsters coexist on the surface but neither have magic
There's a racist society of human wizards trapped under ebott isn't there?
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>>721746010
The SOUL is just a soul, the deviceshit is theory brainrot.
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>>721744352
i'd love to see all the behind the scenes stuff. not just what took toby so long but also the tons of scrapped stuff, and hopefully the original fever dream journal that started the whole thing
>>721746010
>pre-war surface
i like to think the war's inciting incident is everybody's post-true pacifist nightmare scenario where one bad acting monster / suicidal human kickstart a disaster. it ended up being defused naturally but the powder keg had already been lit
>alphys and determination
she's the royal scientist (has looked through gaster's surviving blueprints and notes) and toby soft confirmed that her and sans have worked together. i'd say she knows that they exist
>SOUL device status
in undertale, probably not. the device theming is all in deltarune because of gaster shenanigans, while gasterstuff is limited in undertale. there's something to be said about omega flowey operating undertale like a device, but that's not a constant
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>>721739773
It's certainly possible
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>>721746010
Let's poke at everything and see what sticks
>Pre-war Surface
Before, one could think it was asgore's ineptitude to have his kingdom cornered against the world, now the reasons feel like something personal happening with some ruler, i can only think monsters were extremely popular to not get killed and instead sealed
>Skeleton Ancestry
Did the stream said anything?
My head canon still is that they are reanimated human skeletons
>Asgore's Pant Size
what?
>Yagi Incident
No schizos from homestuck have come with anything new, so for now is only a rumor, unironically deltarune updates might reveal something
>Is the SOUL a device in both Deltarune and Undertale
The SOUL is us, for that there isn't much to add
Rather the non answered question of did frisk had 2 souls? or just one hyper soul with 2 consciousness and you?
>Is Alphys really unaware of determination created timelines
Alphys is a phony, her experiments a disaster and she mostly spent her time hiding from everyone, so i don't think she researched anything further after screwing up with the monsters
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>>721744816
We're not splitting threads, anon.
>>721746442
>There's a racist society of human wizards trapped under ebott isn't there?
There is and its name is 4Chan.
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Hail Yagi, our dark lord and concubine
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>>721739773
I've heard rumors to that effect. I also have heard that 'tamale' rhymes with 'shemale' from a gorilla holding a tortilla
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>>721744352
Oh my fucking god there really is going to be a 10th anniversary before it's fully out. Jesus.
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>>721741570
How the hell would anyone know what human tastes like when there have only been SIX pervious humans who were considered fair game to merk. also muffet's just a freak who talked about how she wanted to turn alphys into a donut during the genocide route
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>>721746930
>Alphys is a phony, her experiments a disaster and she mostly spent her time hiding from everyone, so i don't think she researched anything further after screwing up with the monsters
She is a legitimate genius as she built Mettaton and can install dimensional boxes/jetpacks into phones on the fly. Other than that though her issues make her useless.
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>>721747043
Do you know what concubine even means?
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>>721747225
Additional reminder:
>Toby stated in his Chapter 1 post-release twitlonger that the longest time he'd be willing to spend working on a project is 7 years.
>This halloween will be Chapter 1's 7th anniversary.
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>>721746930
Frisk doesn't have two souls, just one. (You) aren't connected via a SOUL in Undertale, but Chara.
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>>721746963
Sorry, chud. I don't want the threads to be spammed with 500 off-model HMOFAslop like Deltarune threads do.
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>>721747445
It's like a Prince right?
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>>721747464
That was the maximum amount of time he'd spend solo devving it
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>>721747464
Did y'all miss the point of that declaration where in the very same breath he said "so I guess making Deltarune is impossible"? Taking his 7 year thing as some kind of factual declaration that he shall give up upon the turn of the seventh year is goofy as fuck.
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>>721747640
I think you're thinking of 'catamite'
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>>721739773
>pixel indie trooncoded snoyjak
>game
choose one
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>>721748037
Try communicating like a human being.
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>>721747640
It's like having a personal whore to yourself.
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HIS HIGHNESS IS ONLINE HOORAY!
>>721747989
>>721748312
I have regrets
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>>721748037
Ok now repeat that sentence to your friends in public
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>>721748453
You know you could just talk to him weirdo.
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>>721747269
I have bad news for anyone wanting to fuck Muffet who don't know what female spiders do during sex
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>>721739773
>Implying undertale is a game
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>>721747464
>>721747762
They always forget that Toby specified that 7 years is the maximum amount of time he'd work on a project ALONE. He has a team now, so even if he was being super strict about the 7 year thing (lol) it wouldn't even apply anymore.
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>>721739773
It is, but you didn't beat it
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>>721750275
>Not giving your date dinner before seggs
Even male spiders do this to prevent being eaten in the wrong way
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>>721747342
huh... yes
She only sucks at biology, but then again a human is sort of an alien made out of water instead of magic

>>721747470
>Your soul, your determination
That is the only soul we see manifested from frisk during a fight
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I miss my old vessel
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>>721752795
Chara is talking to Frisk there.
>>721753060
Me too but the 10th anniversary livestream satisfied some of it.
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>>721746442
All of the magic was spent creating (and then confining) the dark world, which is why people only get magic when going there.
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>>721753181
Not quite
As Chara thinks (you)'re also named chara (name of the fallen child)
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>>721746442
Maybe monsters are the source of magic for the world and by isolating them magic is also isolated
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>>721749402
I AM UNWORTHY OF HIS GRACE
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Expectations for Chapter 5?
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>>721754312
a concubine should be the one trying to please you anon
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>>721753627
That's only Flowey, and people only say this because they can't cope with Flowey actually talking to Chara during True Pacifist before TRUE RESET.
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>>721754428
Then I'm his concubine.
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>>721754550
>talking to Chara (real) vs Chara (player)
It all depends on how deep Flowey's meta awareness goes after he became Asriel GoHD. The whole "It can't have been 10 years already." speech only muddles the waters even further.
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>>721754550
>That's me.
>"<Name>."
>...
>But.
>You and I are not the same, are we?
>This SOUL resonates with a strange feeling.
Like in deltarune (you)'re canonically a character in the game
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OUR HERO THE GREAT PAPYRUS
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>>721755039
The stream isn't canon and he starts off by saying "one year" and then "five years" so I don't know if he's being literal.
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>>721755072
I miss this cool skeleton like you wouldn't believe.
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>>721755069
Yeah, but we're connected through Chara, not Frisk's soul. Probably.
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>>721755132
>The stream isn't canon
It has meta nudges, but what was added is not something that will be brush off as nothing
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>>721739895
one of the rawest lines i've ever heard
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sex with cute humans
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>>721755680
(girls)
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>>721739773
I think it's a jewish psyop to make kids gay and trans.
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>>721755202
>Chara is a ghost like being so she should be a soul, the alternative is that she is only a consciousness
>We control the vessel trough the soul
>The vessel should be chara as that is the name on the menu
>But physically we control Frisk
>Monsters starting a fight manifest the SOUL as the culmination of "your (Frisk) being"
>Monsters only see Frisk, so they think that must be Frisk's soul
>Frisk gets hurt if that SOUL is harmed
Its a mess, but to my head there should be only one soul connected to both of them managed by the player
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>>721755956
that's every indie game from the 2010s
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>>721755956
tobby rode the train to take advantage of the movement at the time or maybe he actually liked it, but he's just regular gay
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>>721745329
she's built different(wrong)
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>>721754814
Someone should really talk to him so you stop being weird Yagipants.
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>>721756151
We control Chara who is simply an essence attached to Frisk. Once Frisk is gone from the underground we can't control her anymore.
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>>721745329
Woman moment
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>>721739895
Try doing the neutral route and just kill you want to kill and spare who you want to spare.
Especially for the first playthrough. The other 'runs' mean more after you've already beaten the neutral path
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>>721743463
What are you talking about?
It has a wide variety of puzzles and a bullet-hell combat system with frequent variations and changes to keep things fresh.
It's way more involved as a game than most RPGmaker games which only use the default turn-based combat
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>>721756597
In every scene we lose control, same happens in DR and... its the ending, we should lose control, but the soul is still there as we still see what happens afterwards, closing the game with a final scene for frisk or both, if post geno
We also get random scenes, but it would be weird not to, is an ending after all
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>>721744352
Hopefully by that point Chapters 6 will be done.
5 is said to release late next year, and the release of Deltarune's first chapter will be 10 years ago in three years.
It would be amazing if the whole game were done by then, but I doubt that will happen.
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>>721757001
Yeah, because we aren't connected to the SOUL itself in Undertale. That's why we "stay" underground with Flowey in Chara's grave while Frisk goes to live with Toriel.
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>>721754338
Susie can't make it to the festival because she's a wanted suspect for the vandalism of the church.
Rudy dies.
Two dark worlds: one in the Flower King as Asgore finally loses it, and one in the Holiday house when Noelle finds out dark worlds can "bring back" dead people.
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>>721755072
It's interesting that he isn't in Deltarune yet.
He must be coming later, since we already know Gaster and Sans are important.
Wonder how that's going to work.
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>>721757123
If we weren't connected to the soul, or the soul itself, chara wouldn't need to scam the soul from us
As we would have control of chara instead in a more direct manner
And like in deltarune, when the soul is outside the body, it is the one thing we control, when inside, we control the body (Frisk)
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>>721757651
Chara scams the SOUL out of us so she can go to the surface without anyone stopping her. That's why she tells you to do pacifist.
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>>721758170
>And then does a true reset
Mechanically that is the game "punishing" us for doing geno
But narratively it makes chara's intentions obtuse, not wanting the ending nor destruction
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>>721758501
Technically it's (us) that do a TRUE RESET. But yes, everything involving Chara is vague. I guess we have to IMAGINE all the gaps in the story ourselves.
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>>721759023
>Tobias trying to pull a ZUN while having a story with holes like W40K
Well my self explanation is that, due to what i already wrote
But while it doesn't work for me i can see the logic in your narrative

Maybe in another 10 years tobby will choose to expand on the details, or maybe we'll see a deltarune play trough stream instead
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Sup bitches I'm not posting banned anymore, damn it was fucking nutty watching shit for the past 3 months.
Shame I missed all the fun
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Also how many of you niggas think Toby's gonna go full circle and have the Festival release on and be Halloween themed?
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>>721760073
Well Hometown is in autumn so it would make sense. I was thinking more of a classic fall festival with a hodgepodge of cultural practices from around the world.
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>>721759870
what of interest happened besides the anniversary?
>Fanworks thread meltdown
>Discussion moved to /v/

>>721760073
I am praying that tobby doesn't skip the festival in the light world, there is a TON of angst to be squished out in every route
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>>721759483
Get ready for Deltarune's 10th anniversary stream where Toby plays Chapter 6 in preparation for Chapter 7.
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https://youtu.be/HkZROzxUvAo?si=mV8JPmTNrpx_IR-b
makes me feel emotions I didn't know existed
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>>721760385
>>Fanworks thread meltdown
>>Discussion moved to /v/
Context?
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>>721760385
>what of interest happened besides the anniversary?
Dude I've been banned from posting since before the game released lmao
Also you guys found that one guy.
Pretty nuts.
I didn't even get to post about Chapter 3 or 4 when they came out
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>>721760464
*SCREAMS EXTERNALLY*
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>>721759870
>posting banned
>3 months
Nigga just delete site cookies and restart your router.
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>>721760385
The festival is probably gonna be used as the tone-contrasting breather part of Chapter 5 before they go into Flower King and get bombarded with divorce trauma and Dess lore
Toby mentioned something about areas having a tone contrast in the Undertale stream and after the absolute depressionfest that was Chapter 4's later parts, he's most definitely going to throw in a bit more goofiness before shit REALLY goes down
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>>721756518
where's the abortion line
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>deltarune will likely have its 10th anniversary stream before ch7 even comes out
GRIM
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>>721760928
que?
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>>721759870
The fuck did you even do to get banned for that long?
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>>721760968
Not even chapter 6 will be out, actually.

KEK
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>>721760678
nta, some devises are tricky i got a phone banned for a month and somehow the site detects its the same device trough multiple routers despite a clean up
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>>721761139
>phone
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>>721760678
Nah
>>721761052
Not sure, last thing I remember doing was calling the administration a bunch of shit taste retarded pedophiles that like terrible vidya.
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>>721761421
To clarify they just said my post contained "banned text" but didn't bother attaching a post.
So I just assume they got mad lmao.
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>>721761042
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The FRIEND that comes when you call its name.
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>>721761576
Out of character because Chara wouldn't care whether a fetus has human rights
To Chara, all humans have no rights
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>>721756195
I have played at least 5 from recent 5 years that aren't.
>>721756303
I think he's not a very good writer or developer or artist.
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>>721761576
Based CHADsriel. This reminds me of a coomer fanfic I read suddenly became about abortion midway through.
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>>721761615
I KEEP SCREAMING YAGI AND HE ISN'T HERE
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>>721761995
Weren't you going to drop this whole Yagi business? Since he was found to actually be well and alive and all that.
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>>721761576
What species is your left hand? It's a fragment of an organism, not an organism.
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>>721761995
Imagine screaming "I GAY" backwards.
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>>721761576
Isn't it more akin to a parasite on that stage?
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>>721739773
>filename
#awesomesauce

also your question is STUPID. of course it is a game, if it has latin america shaped frisk it obviously is a game.
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>>721762115
Who ever agreed to that isn't me.
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>>721762297
Children aren't parasites, leftyfreak.
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>>721762494
i think abortion is good because it prevents children from existing and i hate children
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>>721762494
Everyone is a parasite upon my glory.
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>>721762219
>>721762297
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>>721762494
I'm not saying that, you retard. My point was that it fits the definition of "parasite" (at least for a couple months). Seriously, just think about it for 2 seconds
>can't survive on its own
>will eat as many nutrients as it can, regardless of how detrimental that can be to its host
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can we talk about undertale in the undertale video game thread and not abortion
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>>721762841
a parasite by definition is of a different species from its host
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>>721762851
but aaaaaanon i need to scream loud and wide about how much of a retard others are except me :((
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>>721762851
Important lore question. Can monsters and humans have children together?
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Titan Spawn moment
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>>721745478
Many are saying this
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>>721763085
When did you start being yourself?
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>>721762851
Me personally I'd prefer even if people don't like Yagi posting if they wouldn't try to force nonsensical boring arguments about nothing any time he's brought up, you're just making two problems instead of solving one.
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xitter niggas be like "yeah I'm horny for UT/DR characters" *is only horny for tenna and spamton and screams if you jerk off to anything else*
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>>721763068
Is pic related canon?
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>>721763829
chara never scored
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>This is canon now
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Seriously I'm not super interested in people talking about it but you guys can't immediately fold the second people notice.
For as much as a freak the other guy is at least he has his conviction.
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>>721764654
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>721764780
Fucking every time someone says "Yagi" suddenly we're having a conversation about Delta Pressure or some irrelevant shit.
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>>721764892
Are you trying to insinuate the abortion politicshit started because they were trying to derail your post you made after it was brought up? What?
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>>721757498
He's 100% coming. My biggest question is, how much is he gonna be changed from his UT self?
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>>721750275
I'm strong enough to vaporize her with a single hit if I feel like it. She's not eating me even if she wants to.
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>>721764780
It's the new Yagischizo sperging out.
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>>721765452
(You) are a jobber and Muffet tanks plenty of hits at LOVE 1.
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>>721765540
>new
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>>721765749
He wasn't as obnoxious back then.
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>>721765065
My post?
No I'm talking about the freak.
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>>721765540
Indulging on my own curiosity was a mistake. I never should've shared those links.
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>>721765980
Serves you right if you ask me, and there's probably a "right" way to deal with this problem you're partially responsible for.
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>it's the exact same color scheme as his blog down to the hexadecimal
>yes i know the exact hexadecimal even though i don't have an archive of it
>what do you mean my story doesn't make sense
>only guywhodoesn'tbelievemeschizo could possibly think this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-ifukvnICY
This song fucks.
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>>721739895
Kill only the Goat Woman and the Skeleton
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>>721754338
Asgore appears in a Dark World wielding a trident formed from his light-world rake.
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>>721767145
I mean this would be a winning strategy if the shit that happened last wednesday didn't happen and we didn't have a schizo running around now because of this.
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>>721767384
The fuck did Papyrus do to you.
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>>721754338
>Unskippable Suselle confession scene
>Festival date is a wet fart that hardly changes anything
>Kris is mean to me
>Asgore humiliation ritual
>Kino dark world in which Asgore completely loses himself to delusional escapism
>Seam is the final boss of the shadow crystal questline
>Ends on another cliffhanger
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I can't get over ch. 3 of Deltarune. That shit was so much fun.
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>>721754338
Lovely dovely date with the other half of my own [heart shaped object], starting with holding hands, with some pointing at people in the middle, ending with some ice cream.
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>>721769346
...what kind of ice cream?
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>>721747464
Unless you're an ancient Chinese ruler you're going to suck at predicting how you'll feel about things in 7 years
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>>721755132
Note how after 10 years he says "I can't believe it's been" without saying a time. The non meta idea behind the dialogue is he's counting how many years its been since he lost Chara, which is probably 100 fucking years or more
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>>721769770
100 years + however long he spent fucking around with resets until he got SO bored that he had literally nothing else to do, on top of all that
Although he only would've been conscious for the second part
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>>721769770
Poor goatboy. Meet a human once and then can never move on from her.
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>>721739773
What happened with that site a while ago where you would make a little drawing and type something in a text box? Did Toby sort through those?
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>>721770713
A fraction of them were featured in the anniversary livestream preambles and intermissions.
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>Maybe... The truth is...
>Dess wasn't really the greatest person.
>* While, Asriel...
>You're the type of friend I wish I always had.
Kris says this in the end of Deltarune. Will you clap?
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undertale taught me how to feel emotions
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>>721739773
I have never played this slop and I never will. All the people that talk about this "game" are mentally ill lego people and I'd rather not be associated with retarded faggot shit.
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>>721762219
Then I'll cut you up into each individual organ without your organism dying and then destroy each one of them individually. It won't be murder.
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>>721770859
Yes.
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>>721770859
>implying Kris would ever denounce the girl that groomed him
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>>721739773
>>721745329
SWEET LITTLE CHOCOLAT
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>>721770780
Do you have a link to that? I want to see if mine made it in
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>>721772670
https://undertale.com/10/
Start and end of the Day 1 video, start of the Day 2 video.
Also if you happen to spot one named Mesugaki, tell me, it was mine lol
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numbers
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>>721739773
>Papyrus had way more self-control than any other monster that can attack, even Toriel can kill you accidentally where as you literally cannot die to Papyrus
>Sans is doing all sorts of game-breaking shit like attacking you in your menu screen, abusing the lack of iframes to do more damage per frame, etc.; the new pacifist fight shows that he can also make all his stuff do 0 damage if he wants
Is the ultimate meta joke behind them that they’re operating under different “internal logic” because they (most likely) came from Deltarune’s world? Kind of like how crossover characters in modern fighting games will have wacky mechanics that only they can do
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>>721772670
This person made a list of names from the messages so you can ctrl-f to see if you're in there.
https://unrollnow.com/status/1969656522255761643
https://unrollnow.com/status/1969998668754297032

Then this person has screenshots of the messages you can scroll through instead of scrubbing through the videos
https://unrollnow.com/status/1969582116066509044
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>>721772968
I feel like Toby "King of Ero Games" "Fucking Weeaboo" Fox would understand what mesugaki means and exclude it for that reason.
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>>721767571
If Asgore opens a dark fountain and he doesn't do it by dramatically stabbing a ground with a pitchfork, then I swear to god I will mail my boot straight to the address inside Toby's ass.
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>>721773380
Damn, mine didn't make it in. I guess mine was too depressing for the hopeful mood that they were going for. Pretty cool though
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>>721763068
only one way to find out
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>>721739773
dinnnnnnnnnerrr
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>>721763068
Boss Monsters are what happens with a monster mother and human father (their souls are the only ones to share the persisting-after-death property of human souls, which is stated to be related to humans' determination)
Mages are the inverse (magic is monsters' whole thing, their bodies are made of it)
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>>721773645
They received like 400K memories total, and fangamer employees managed to check 100K of them for content screening. So there's a 75% chance your message didn't even get looked at.
Then of the ones that got accepted, only 1,000 or so had time to appear on stream.
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>>721759870
I updated it. Lmao.
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>>721739773
Ribbit dev working on the anniversary shit blew my fucking mind. Honestly RIBBIT blows UT/DR out of the fucking water in terms of presentation, it's more of a difficult game (but honestly later on could use some touch ups because if you have the right gear its piss easy.)
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>>721774260
the fucking akira bike slide alone makes me want to play it
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>>721773380
Oh well, I'm glad to at least have confirmation instead of rewatching like a hawk. I remember Toby said to get your entry in asap. I wish I could see the fangamer employees sift through all the game word spam.
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>>721739773
Undertale is a music album with a free low effort game attached to it
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>>721774337
https://gamejolt.com/games/ribbitmod/671888
get back to me on it anon, i was an early adopter of this mod and i've followed it for a long time now.
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>>721774196
10/10
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I've been watching Deltarune theory videos recently, and I noticed they cover every single unhinged theory possible with one exception: female Kris. Not a single youtuber/redditor brings up the theory that Kris is the female hero. What's up with that?
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>>721774196
Lol
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>>721774682
No one wants to open the gates of hell.
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>>721774682
Politics
That's why
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>>721774682
there is one that does but of course goes on the trans angle
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>>721744352
Chapter 6
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>>721774196
I still don't get why neither of them just resolve the issue.
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>>721774682
it is believed to be unlikely that Toby would do a "the they/them character is ACTUALLY a girl" twist
He's never explicitly called any of the humans non-binary either and I'm inclined to believe he's not likely to make an explicit dive into gender stuff in the plot, and not just for "the tumblrites would crucify him" reasons.
"Ralsei is The Girl and trans" theories likewise don't feel like something Toby would pull
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>berdly in chapter 1-2 exclusively showed interest in girls and specified he wants a gamer girl to kiss him
>making him gay has always been fine
>but if you ship noelle or undyne with a guy you will get death threats (because your non-canon fan content that doesn't overwrite, replace or change anything in the official material or people's perception of it is "erasure")
this will never make sense
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>>721775414
It makes sense once you realize they hate straight men.
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>>721775414
If anyone says that to you just counter by saying they're committing bi-erasure.
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>>721774682
The fear that the Gays will attack in waves if you dare suggest anything but Non-Binary Kris
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I want Kris to kiss Asriel
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>>721774985
Which one?
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>>721775414
>>721775819
>Artist makes Kris Black instead of Jaundice Yellow
>"Well, that's just my interpretation of Kris"
>Another artist makes Kris specifically Male
>"HOW DARE YOU! KRIS IS NON-BINARY!"
Many such instances
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>>721776036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_6wj2zCpfc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_CnbZVLwkE
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>>721739895
Using fists is how most people play games
Pacifist is unnatural and boring
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>>721776178
I watched that one. It says nothing about Kris being the girl in the prophecy. It's just gender politisperging.
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>>721776123
the funniest thing is when they start screeching about kris being misgendered in a comment except the comment wasn't even referring to kris when it said "he"
they literally WANT to see people misgendering kris so they can get angry, so they mindlessly scan anything for "kris" and a male pronoun in the same sentence and flip their shit without reading it
i've seen this so many times
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>>721747269
Fahahuhuhuhu
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>>721775137
The way I kinda look at it is like this, imagine like, you're the pippin guy, I don't know if it's one guy maybe he is it's not actually important, maybe like once every couple months or so, some random faggot says
>Ralsei is based on a dead kid
And instead of just ignoring it as noise and letting it pass as some stupid meme like Based on My Aunt which people don't really say anymore.
You directly, antagonize anyone that says it.
So it keeps happening, over and over.
Some random dickhead says
>Oooh spooky Ralsei Deado
And you yell at the "Ralsei Deader Guy" to stop it.
Until one day.
Someone actually decides to do some research into finding it, because it's been literal years of you inadvertently keeping this stupid meme alive.
And it turns out to almost entirely be true.
Now you've got people actually running around with working knowledge proving a ton of the details to actually be accurate and there to actually specifically be some dude.
You've created some dude who is literally sperging the fuck out crying about it.
And worst of all: It was entirely your fault.
I don't know if I could even begin to blame someone for being too much of a pussy to go say
>Hey I big time fucked up and accidentally proved you exist to a bunch of mentally unwell people online, can you please say SOMETHING to maybe calm them down or something?
The crying guy probably just doesn't want to talk to someone who he's declared himself to be their butt slut.
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Not too long ago I just completed my first game of Undertale.
10 years ago, I played through most of it because I was desperately in love with this girl who was a huge fan of it.
I was in 7th grade then (23 now) and she was a year older, so I knew I wasn't going to see her again. At least for a long time.

Never beat Asgore back then, and the semester ended so the only girl I ever loved went out of my life.
But I went back and played through the game and finally beat it. Soon I'll do a half-genocide route (I'm shit at games, so I plan to stop before I fight Sans) and then a pacifist one.

Once chapter 5 comes out I'm going to get into Deltarune. Even though it seems like something which appeals to me less than Undertale
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>>721777295
damn are we OFFposting now?
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People were talking about Chara earlier, I wanted to throw my two cents in.

Chara isn't inherently evil.
She (Chara sounds like a woman's name, so I'll use she) was a kid who must have been horrifically treated since she looks no older than like 8, but wanted to kill herself.
Because of that she was very mal-adjusted, not the best person.

At game start her 'essence' (I would say soul, but souls are something else in Undertale) is bonded with Frisk.
From there the player determines her path. If a mostly peaceful route is chosen Chara becomes a better adjusted person and takes a backseat to Frisk.
In a genocide route she becomes convinced that the only reason for life is the accumulation of power, RPG stats, and overpowers first Frisk and the narrator, and then the player themselves. If it is done twice Chara views herself as a demon.

But Chara isn't a demon, she's still just a dead, abbused little girl. It's the player who decides her fate as well as Frisk's.
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>>721777683
I don't have any Undertale related picures, but I have some OFF pictures and that's pretty close.

I love OFF, it's probably my favorite game of all time.
Even though it plays worse than Undertale in many ways, the story and themes, the general off-putting atmosphere elevates it so much higher in my mind.
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I wish fandom would stop making them gay.
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>>721777987
Would you want some Undertale related pictures?
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>>721778836
Sure.
I do really enjoy the game.
It can go well with my 30+ pictures of Franziska von Karma from Ace Attorney 2.
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>>721739773
Undertale isn't a game, it is a theater of the mind for you to use your imagination
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>>721777987
same broski, same.
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>>721777687
Honestly, this
>Chara was ABOOSED
Just seems like admitting Chara was evil with extra steps, since even with "excusing" the suicide pact and attempt at razing humanity, you're still admitting that they aren't a good person, and sort of ignoring how big of a deal specifically the unga bunga murder route directly has the narration to declare this to be what makes it "Me Chara" rather than "You" or "You, Frisk".
Not that you can't like Chara regardless, but you know, as far as things go, some entirely hypothetical abuse story isn't really relevant.
Or the double entendre you can read out of
>I know why Chara climbed the mountain, hint hint subtext, the only route in the game where you're explicitly referred to as THAT person
>It wasn't a for a very happy reason
Or not, I'm not your dad or your writing teacher.
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>>721778973
That's cool, I don't have any and I can't think of anything funny to make after the Mario Graveyard edits I posted.
But if you do something interesting maybe I'll get an idea.
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>>721779009
One must imagine Ralsei straight.
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>>721779196
>Or the double entendre you can read out of
>I know why Chara climbed the mountain, hint hint subtext, the only route in the game where you're explicitly referred to as THAT person
>It wasn't a for a very happy reason
i'm too stupid to pick up what you are putting down here, please explain
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>>721779009
My imagination says charasriel true and canon.
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>>721779416
Find a vessel to eradicate their enemies.
What they used Asriel for, and what they use Frisk for if you complete a Genocide run.
Of course there's any number of ways you could read it.
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>>721779505
>this is what Toby was thinking all day
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>>721779196
Chara wasn't a good person, but that was because of something we don't know about.
I mean Undertale's narrative doesn't have people just be bad for no reason. The game in a way is about how people are who they are due to what they've been through. Undyne isn't bad though she wants to kill you, Alphys isn't bad despite the terrible shit she's done, even Flowey had a reason for what he did and who he became.

So it wouldn't fit to think that Chara is just evil for no reason.
She's like Flowey, a bad person, but clearly for a specific reason.
Sure we don't learn why specifically, but learning she was planning to kill herself even though she was still very young, and how she seemed to hate humanity clearly implies that she was once a victim.
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>>721779253
Papyrus is the most fun character in Undertale. Eh, how about some comic-type-thing of him talking to Flowey.
I can't think of a joke right now.
this is probably not helpful
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There’s gotta be a name for this dissonance where Toby had a gamer rant about how he likes writing flawed characters but his fandom obsessively tries to put every character in a moral binary with no nuance
It’s not really Flanderization, but feels very close
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>>721779009
I imagine Asriel getting railed by Chara all day, every day.
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>>721779267
>>721779505
>>721779809
There's a connecting through-line in these imaginings but we need a more experienced imagineer to decipher their deeper meaning
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>>721779798
it’s basically just autism, autists are unironically known for very black-and-white thinking
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>>721779798
This is the only case where I would agree Kris is canonically "non-binary"
(Not in the moral binary of pure good or pure evil)
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i like to imagine Bravery, unlike Chara, climbed the mountain for a very happy reason (WAKU WAKU)
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>>721780042
But autists (as in, actual autists instead of the "I'm so quirky and special teehee" type that's so popular on social media nowadays) tend to be sticklers for canon.
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>>721779637
I’m still genuinely surprised that Toby just revealed himself as being the biggest Charafag in the world with zero buildup
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>>721780364
In retrospect, it shouldn't be so surprising since he was the one that set the foundations for it in canon.
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So given that Susie's Dark World is all fucked up, is it possible the prophecy is too?
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>>721747762
>toby announces he's abandoning development on deltarune on the day of its anniversary
if only he was that based.
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Wait if Asgore canonically killed all the kids why was Patience's gear in the Ruins
I thought Toriel went to the Ruins specifically to get away from Asgore after he declared war on humanity
Did he just go there anyway? Or was the gear moved back there post-death?
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>>721780517
the prophecy is unchanging, even the shadow crystals can't warp them
but they can be reinterpreted and the order can be changed
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>>721780568
after what happened during the livestream... shouldn't that gif be edited from "wrong" to "right"?
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>>721779798
That part about Toby liking character flaws really makes me wonder what’s going to become of Susie in Chapters 5-7, cause so far she really does seem to be the most straightforward purehearted meathead after Chapter 1
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oh sorry mb
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>>721779659
>but that was because of something we don't know about.
Does that matter?
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>>721780695
Deltarune theories can (and will) still be wrong because people are speculating on what will happen next in an unfinished story
The theories he was referring to in Undertale's case were just headcanons for deliberately unanswered questions, such as "what does the Underground look like outside of the parts we see in the story", "what were the previous fallen humans like", "what happened before and during the war" etc
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>>721780472
charaz da biggest so xe'z da boss
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>>721754338
Weird route will you have excluding Susie in favor of Noelle the entire festival and when she snaps you have to explicitly tell her to fuck off crushing her emotionally.
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>>721780364
Thank you Toby, the cake was delicious
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>>721780767
I think it does.
Because people think that Chara is literally a demon, or some uncomplicated villain character, that she is the one 'in control' during a genocide route and just none of that fits with the rest of the game.
So I think it's an incorrect reading.
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>>721739895
>use my fists?
>not "pass my fists"
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The fact you can give up after a game over throws a wrench in the entire "prophecy is unchangeable" thing.
Three heroes still have to appear at world's edge. If you die early in Chapter 1, the pointy headed still has to say toothpaste boy. If these will happen no matter what, how come the world being covered in darkness changes that?
Is there a hidden "if" statement somewhere in the prophecy that says "Also none of these need to happen if the Heroes die before they can lmao."
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>>721745329
The plan? She was a mentally unwell kid who survived a suicidal drop by miracle, and was then unintentionally given a massive sense of responsibility and fed a messiah complex by her new adoptive father ("You are the future of humans and monsters..."), which made her feel obligated to repay the Dreemurrs' kindness in her own weird, fucked up way, certain that the end would justify the means without realizing that Asriel would be too stubborn and soft to let her get away with a human massacre once he absorbed her SOUL.
Erasing the world in genocide? (You) taught her that power really is everything, vindicating her damaged worldview but expanding it to such a degree that she completely shed everything she previously cared about to focus on the eternal pursuit of gains and total completion.
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>>721739895
Kill papyrus and spare everyone else
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>>721781794
That's somehow worse than a genocide route
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>>721782019
:-)
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>>721781643
Toby's own self-insert even alludes to the prophecy being possible to avert, the normal route of Chapter 2 literally has him stop the Queen's unstoppable chariot via traffic jam.
It's just that to avert the prophecy, you have to do something borderline unthinkable, which thus far, involves (You), a being of unwavering willpower the likes of which can defy an unbeatable boss just to try and come out on top (something even GASTER chimes in on to start commentating and getting hyped for) turning around and giving up entirely, and Literally God intervening.
There's absolutely going to be something pivotal during the narrative climax that completely shatters the prophecy as a whole aside from "the worlds are saved", and it'll likely come from (You)r willpower combining with everyone else's, much like how the barrier only broke because Frisk helped align everything so that 99.99% of the Underground's hopes and dreams were united in finally seizing freedom.
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>>721774260
Ribbit's story is utter dog shit and what they do with ralsei is pants on head levels of retarded
the visual gags and jokes are the highlights but by the time we get to card castle i just want it to end
the jevil replacement is cool af though and impressive but god the story is utter shit
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>>721782274
The Queen's Chariot prophecy is really fucking weird, and the only explanation could be that Queen's car being shown in it is a red herring.
I mean, go into Castle Town in Chapter 4. There's literally a room where you can press GO and STOP and it controls Queen's car.
Giga Queen being the "chariot" lines up more but it feels weird to call it that.
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>>721782551
Isn't the whole point of ribbit that it's a huge stupid joke on the level of Undertale 2
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>>721782551
YOU do not have The Gift.
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>>721782580
>>721782274
I think the queen chariot part is yet to happen and will be the party running into a titan with queen's car during the roaring
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>>721782725
no it tries way too hard to give ralsei or jeff or whatever the fuck and susie way too many 2edge5me shit that just makes me roll my eyes
also think the main 'character' development is stupid as fuck and nothing in this mod is worthy of praise
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I hope we can somehow get another Thornring and cut Snowgrave into a 50% spell cause Spamton mentioned he had multiple
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>>721782852
Good to know, because I was planning to play it
Now I won't
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>>721782852
his name was tim, retard.
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>>721782924
try deltaruined instead
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>>721782903
You can only equip one weapon at a time but maybe Malius will fuse it into a SuperDuperThornRing or something
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>>721782903
Assuming we are going to Asgore's place next chapter, we will definitely get a lot of thorns...
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>>721782956
deltaruined fuckin sucks.
if you have UT save data on your pc it fucks with your game, and not everything is documented too well so it's easy to get softlocked.
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>>721783049
>if you have UT save data on your pc it fucks with your game
wait what. really???
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>>721783049
That sounds fucking funny
Not like it's super hard to move your savedata out of the way if necessary
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>>721783237
THAT isn't difficult, no, it's all the other shit that it does based off stuff on your computer that ISN'T documented.
when i tried deltaruined for the first time, i was excited, but having genocide save data on my pc, i got locked in a sans fight w/ 20 health in the light world. funny gag for the first time, but i literally didn't know what to do and then dropped it for the next month (i got stuck later again on some stupid shit that i had no means of progressing past.)
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>>721783215
Most notoriously, if you have the flags that mark your file as tainted by Genocide, Sans interrupts the opening car sequence and you have to fight him at LV1 in order to progress because he remembers you're genocides.
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Every single time Queen's car has shown up, it's been stopped in some way
>stopped by a traffic jam
>stopped by the fact it blew up
>stopped by a wall (and can be stopped AGAIN there by a traffic sign being switched to STOP)
Either the prophecy's a load of bollocks or that's not the same chariot it's referring to. Or "can't be stopped" only refers to a temporary event and it can be stopped at other times just fine.
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I want Noelle to freeze me so I can be unthawed when chapted 5 drops
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>>721783457
That sounds like a skill issue, buddy
Delete system_information_972
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>>721783539
Even then, if you subscribe to the GIGA Queen = Chariot theory, it too is guaranteed to be stopped by Ralsei explaining The Roaring.
Either the prophecy isn't as immutable as it's implied to be, or it's referring to a future event where the Darkners of Castle Town band together to help the Fuck Squad and the chariot in question really IS unstoppable, at long last.
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>>721771801
>Kris's Tulpa is a faggy rendition of his brother
>Asriel is fucking a genderbent of his brother
The Dreemurs are fucking horrid at parenting
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>>721754338
Maybe not Chapter 5 but I fully expect Toriel's bedroom to be a dark world at some point
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>>721776538
It's funny how they're so anal about they/them being STRICTLY they/them only that they completely ignore the possibility that Toby might view someone like Napstablook as a he/they nowadays and were close to blowing a gasket on the god emperor himself so he had to completely backpedal and clarify it was a voice-to-TTS error.
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>>721784312
And they were fine with changing it for Swatch and Starwalker for some reason
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>>721754338
I am fully expecting it to be at flower king and be Asgore-focused
Also, it's going to turn out the flowers Asgore was passing to Rudy were not faggotry as we initially thought, mark my words
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>>721783508
baste??
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>>721780707
She is
>retarded
>clueless
>still has low self-esteem
>is going to crash out
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>>721747470
Undertale is always fucky because YOU are Chara but Chara is also like, her own bitch, that's why people probably got tripped up with Kris at the start and all tought there was an undescrypt, third entity doing all the fucked shit out of camera.
The Soui is always you, in Undertale SOMEHOW we get stuck with Frisk, who I presume might have gotten stuck with Chara right when they fell into Mount Ebbot. Deltarune? Who knows, we made communion with someone through the Survey, and this someone shoved us into Kris because fuck us. Dunno why, but in this case it's not a coincidence, we're driving Kris for some specific, undisclosed reason both from our mystery guy and Kris
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>>721784616
YOU?
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>>721774458
Will check it out. Looks very unique.
>>721774689
Asriel eats meat?
>>721775341
Smartest thing Toby has ever done.
>>721777295
If you abort a genocide run (by sparing a monster or not reaching the counter) and get to the end you'll have an interesting ending. Anyway, it's good to have you along.
>>721784312
Wasn't Napstablook referred to as "he" in one of the notes he put on screen, in writing? That can't be attributed to a voice-to-TTS error. Also shows how religious they are about pronouns; with the humans they try to push non-binary BS but the ghosts are really just sexless.
>>721784461
Who the heck thought it was faggotry? Rudy makes a comment about one bouquet being roses but there is no insinuation of them being anything other than friends.
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>>721784708
>Who the heck thought it was faggotry?
Buddy, were you not aware of ass gore's undying love for rudy-poo?
Anons just were joking about that for a while, I'm not seriously saying I believe that.
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>>721739773
is a videogame supposed to be "fun"?
I enjoyed Undertale, but I'm not sure i had "fun".
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>>721784708
>Who the heck thought it was faggotry? Rudy makes a comment about one bouquet being roses but there is no insinuation of them being anything other than friends.
Some people took the scraped alarm clock dialogue in that way.
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>>721739773
So what actually happens to Chara after True Pacifist? What does it even mean to SAVE her?
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Undertale is an art game.

artys videogames have interactions and gameplay mechanics that serves to enhance the narrative experience.
you don't play Undertale to win, you play to enjoy the story.

why do you think newer RPGs have "cinematic" difficulty modes now?
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>>721785069
"Toriel is homophobic" is still the most convincing reason for her Asgore disgust here though. Whatever the fuck Asgore did wasn't killing Dess, Rudy loves the guy and Carol not only pays him, but treats him with both respect and enough confidence to let him roam the house alone with Noelle
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>>721784047
>Asriel is fucking ... his brother
Hot
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>>721785343
It always returns to human/goat sex. This is the one universal truth across all worlds.
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>>721785170
there's an explanation that is far more sensible and heavily hinted towards, asgore became obsessed with finding noelle
for self-explanatory reasons the holidays would be cool with this, and toriel could think he's just going crazy and threatened to divorce if he didn't stop but even that wasn't enough for him to give in
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>>721785502
This would be social suicide in a small comunity like the town tho, Toriel is too respected for this to be the thing
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>>721785601
>This would be social suicide in a small comunity like the town tho,
Freak milk says otherwise.
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>>721785069
What dialogue? To me it feels like another case of "I've never had close friends before so close friendship looks homosexual to me." Similar to how a few people think Frodo and Sam are gay when that's not at all the case.
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>>721785601
why? even the holidays would probably think asgore is going crazy, as much as they appreciate the pointless effort, don't think anyone would hold it against toriel that much
it could also double down to the fact that toriel may be the reason dess disappeared in the first place if that one variable actually means something, which would justify her divorcing over the fact he won't stop investigating even more
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>>721785738
this one https://undertale.com/alarmclock/asgore/
the fact Toby used pic related probably didn't help.
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>>721785170
This makes no fucking sense. Even if Carol isn't homophobic, why would she just be okay with her husband's infidelity? And why would Toriel be bothered by the homosexuality but not her husband cheating on her? Are we just ignoring all the hints that whatever led to the divorce is the same incident where Dess went missing? The snowstorm? Do you unironically think Dess went missing because Rudy and Asgore were too busy having buttsex in the woods? Notice how many more questions your theory raises than answers it provides?
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>>721786002
you forgot this is a toby fox game
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>>721785872
That's my point. Rudy was a good friend to Asgore and later on Asgore, who deeply misses his family, was able to relive family life vicariously. People who never experienced such concepts will look at that and go "they're gay." I know Toby can write like a hack sometimes and imply that even Burgerpants of all people might be gay, but Asgore and another married guy with kids? It's ridiculous.
This is an unfortunate consequence of writing in homosexual characters to begin with, because it encourages such stupid shipping.
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>>721786002
Deltarune fans seem to have a problem with separating homophobia from being righteously angry at a person who also happens to be a faggot
See: Carol telling Susie to get the fuck out of her house when she sees her playing with her dead/missing/knight daughter's guitar
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>>721784708
>Wasn't Napstablook referred to as "he" in one of the notes he put on screen, in writing?
Yeah, Napstablook was pretty consistently male until basically RIGHT before release, then he was suddenly exclusively they/them. There's actually a pre-release build that was discovered not too long ago that carries vestiges of this.
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Undertale/v0.99.5
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>>721786292
I regret never saving that one >rape meme back in June where Carol goes "I'm feeling especially homophobic today" and tells Kris to correct her daughter.
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>>721786481
Huh, that's.... interesting to say the least.
I wonder if it was done just for the sake of keeping him consistent with the rest of the ghosts.
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Why does Noelle want to fuck everything that moves
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>>721786481
I've actually never heard of this proto build before
I'm not a true Underhead...
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>>721786693
It was a super recent discovery, so no fault in not hearing about it until now.
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>>721786648
do you think she ever fantasized about banging her glitched headless cat petterz cats while they speak to her in a sonic.exe voice
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>>721786648
Just teenager things (tm)
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Tranny game
>the child killing monsters are just misunderstood
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>>721786481
You just know that if it wasn't downloadable on Steam itself for anyone to easily verify, people would be accusing it of being a fake chud mod to spread male Napstablook propaganda or some shit.
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>>721786481
what's with orange fuck showing up everywhere
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>>721787041
He's looking for ficuses to lick
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>>721786965
As if there wasn't also the early versions of the artbook and the demo builds.
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>>721739773
It is a the world.
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>>721786941
Yes, but this predates trannies explaining their entire lore being mandatory and mainstream, so we just didn't see it.
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>>721784230
>tfw you have to fight the darkner version of your mom's dildos
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>>721787779
>Toriel's bedroom dark world
>it's full of suspiciously blue ectoplasmic spawn
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>>721785170
Every member of Noelle's family got cucked so far. Chapter 5 will decide whether she will be able to break the family curse, or she'll be the first in her family to become a double-cuck.
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>>721786648
>shy bisexual girl who is actually extremely horny
Nothing like this ever happened and yet here we go again.
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Its a walking sim where you sometimes talk to NPCs and sometimes dodge projectiles. Its owes its popularity to the immaturity of its audience.
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>>721786481
>Them and their cousin stayed behind to run the family farm.
Isn't that grammatically incorrect? To my understanding, when you're referring to two people, the possessive pronoun should also make sense if you removed the other person from the sentence. As in "them stayed behind" wouldn't make sense.
Makes sense it was changed at the last second since it looks like it wasn't spellchecked.
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Man I still couldn't think of anything funny to draw after drawing the schizos stuck in the Yaghole
Mondo bogus
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>>721788243
>Asgore's monologue before the Chapter 5 boss fight includes a spiel that the Fun Gang merely adopted the Dark Worlds, whereas Asgore was reborn in them, molded by them
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>>721788243
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>>721786648
she's probably in heat or something
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>>721788576
Deltarune DOES seem to take place during autumn, after all, or at least the precipice of summer and autumn considering the lifechanging event in the Sweltering Summer of '25.
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There isn't a single homophobic characters in all of Undertale/Deltarune. Monsters are all ultra-progressive libs.
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>>721788706
game probably takes place in mid-late november judging from the trees
possibly the week of halloween but i think it would be strange if it were considering that susie isn't hyping it up for kris
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>>721788912
It can't past Halloween since Jack hasn't been used yet
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>>721739773
Undertale is NOT just a game, it taught me that games can be more than games, it taught me that videogames can be art, it taught me that violence is NEVER the solution, and that I must have empathy in my heart.
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>>721765980
Ironically, indulging the rest of the way on those links is probably your only way out of this.
Funny.
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>>721785117
Their soul is at rest as they have learned that the world is not "kill or be killed," healing them of whatever grudges they held toward humanity that led to their two suicides.
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>>721788912
If people's geographic estimates are right, it's probably right around the end of october.
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>>721774196
Also just so you guys know because I saw you ask a couple times, you don't have to wait for someone to say it's okay to slap some funny shit that happened on that picture.
Just do it, it's fun
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>>721788279
>Isn't that grammatically incorrect?
Strictly speaking it is, but it's also not an uncommon mistake for native speakers to mess up pronoun usage in cases like that and say "him and his" instead of "he and his."
or saying "Me and my friend" when properly it should be "My friend and I"
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>>721789237
Jackenstein supposedly only shows up on Festival night, and Susie suspects his Light World counterpart's a Halloween decoration or something of the sort. I feel like someone would've mentioned preparing for Halloween at this point, but the Festival's likely some time around then or November.
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>>721790008
The Festival is the celebration of the night the monsters went door-to-door eradicating all human oppressors that didn't give them treats or ward them off with scairy pumkins.
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>>721789889
I give up. There is no chance in hell I'll ever truly understand how English works
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>>721790196
We'll see Susie dressed up as a cardboard box next chapter.
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>>721739773
No, it's a shit show
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>>721779768
Maybe if you tried a little harder this post would have been humerus.
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>>721789108
>it taught me that violence is NEVER the solution
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>>721746930
>My head canon still is that they are reanimated human skeletons
I feel like there's actually a bunch of humans who wound up in the Underground with the monsters, now that we're aware that it wasn't purely humans vs monsters and the people who sealed the monsters were probably their allies rather than their enemies. The skeletons and the ghost family (Napsta, Mettaton and the dummies) are possibly all undead humans rather than monsters.
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>>721790834
I love violent Ralsei so much
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Remember, you can make funny shit too.
All you gotta do is habeeb.
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>>721790854
>2 dummies + 2 ghosts
>2 skeletons
>Prior to Frisk falling into the Underground, only 6 souls were collected
Hmmmmm...
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>>721791112
saddam hussein makes everything funnier
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>>721791190
God I wish that were me
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>Maybe... The truth is...
>Toriel wasn't really the greatest person.
>* While, Carol...
>You're the type of mother I wish I always had.
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>>721791412
asriel's last thoughts on chara don't hit the same now that we have explicit confirmation that he was giga coping about it
he was down bad for the humussy
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weird to think that asgore's theme was so fast originally
https://fwugradiation.tumblr.com/post/795429603410935808/lol-i-had-more-to-share-but-it-wont-upload-i
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>>721739773
why is delta cave like this?
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>>721791112
Actually wait, you guys might be too young, habeeb is slang for believe.
Believe in yourself.
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>>721791551
there are few things more pure than love between a boy (female) and his purple dinosaur
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>>721791842
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Is it true that Susie has low self esteem
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>>721792170
Yup.
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>>721739773
That's not Frisk that's Friiiisk
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>>721791645
I don't believe it! TWINKIE HOUSE!
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>>721792170
Susie has low self-esteem
Ralsei has low empathy
Kris has low assertiveness
Noelle's mother never used belt on her, even though she really should've
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This image really needs Susie in it.
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>>721792170
yeah
her whole backstory is about her being unable make friends/ being judged for her appearance
she also might legitimately have a learning disability considering her spelling, she's very aware of her flaws despite her tough front
kris and ralsei are her first genuine, no bullshit, friends (although they're hiding bullshit from her)
even if kris is working with the knight it's pretty clear that he cares a lot about her, and ralsei is only hiding things from her because he doesn't want her to worry about the shit he knows
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>>721792170
the lowest, not thinking she was even qualified to be a hero in chapter 4.
When she realizes that the prophecy isn't about her, she's going to be crushed and it'll be up to two idiots to cheer her up.
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>>721739895
I'm feeling evil, think I'll kill them all.
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>>721785117
Chara either stays a voice in Frisk's head or they finally rest in peace knowing the barrier is gone, monsters can live happily on the surface and Asriel has let go of the past.
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>>721792616
>she also might legitimately have a learning disability considering her spelling
That may just be how big dinosaurs are.
Susie's Dad or whatever looked like a delinquent too.
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>>721792397
Noelle has anger issues but idk what she would be 'low' on.
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>>721793718
confidence
the only people she can say no to are her father and kris, with everyone else she just submits to their will (unless her lust for susie overpowers it)
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Susie's father was an alcoholic and killed himself shortly before her birth. Her mother was a prostitute and constantly drunk, she died from withdrawal. Her younger sister drowned herself, her older sister jumped under train, her brother threw himself off the railroad bridge. Grandpa killed his wife, doused himself with gasoline and set himself on fire. Other grandma was traveling with gypsies and poisoned herself in the prison. Her male cousin was convicted for several counts of treason and slit his jugular with a glass shard in county jail. Female cousin jumped from the six floor. Susie was neglected during childhood and she couldn't speak until she was ten, because when she was six months old, she was left without supervision while she was getting her diapers changed and a cat dragged her off the table, leaving her with brain damage. She has violent headaches from time to time and sometimes can't even remember what she was doing.
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>>721739773
To be honest I think it's more like an illustrated album of a good composer than a game. It's an okay game carried by great music.
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>>721793718
Low on shame.
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>>721794249
>dinosaur prostitute
Hmmm..
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>>721794847
Nah, Susie's a human, she just has a very bad case of FASD and ichthyosis.
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>>721792280
>>721792616
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>>721794249
I want to hug the dino now ;(
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I want Chara/Kris to kiss Asriel/Asriel
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>>721761729
This is unironically more or less my view on abortion. First 3-4 months is fair game, and after that - only if the mother's life is threatened.
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>>721794249
You forgot the part where she found a starving puppy in the streets and secretly took it home to nurse it back to health, but her mother forgot to pay the gas bill that winter so she came home from school one afternoon to find the puppy frozen to death in her bedroom.
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>>721739773
Its more than a game. Its a feeling.
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>>721744352
Would be awesome if chapter 7 released that day, but Im guessing the scope will keep expanding and it will take longer
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The way Toby joked around Sans not using comic sans here makes me think it's significant.
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>>721796408
I feel like chapter 7 will be a stub chapter. Most games tend to peter out towards the end, and don't forget Deltarune roots.
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>>721796625
As much as I love memes about Toby becoming Hussie 2.0, I think his response to undertale blowing up and the difficult development during covid shows he is a much more level headed and patient businessman and artist than his dear old dad
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>>721796595
I saw it pointed out recently that the wavy text there only gets used when a character is either crying or Napstablook (who is always crying on a spiritual level)
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We have reached a point where no fictional character can have an “I'm not swinging that way” scene because that would label the character (and the author) as homophobic.
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>>721796821
Characters cant smell pie and start floating towards it any more, because of cancel culture.
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>>721796809
I only read the wiki page, and it's not similar to the other lost souls at least. Sans' dialogue is also pretty grim, worse than the others in my opinion. I thought the dialogue was hinting at Sans not seeing the Deltarune crew again, but with the font being different there seems to be a layer of obscuring going on.
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Honestly, I feel we went too far with Dess' characterization. Sure, she wasn't the greatest person and she was a bad influence on him, but I'm pretty sure she genuinely liked Kris. There's a reason why he is so loyal to her, and it's probably not grooming-related.
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>>721796821
Toby Fox is a fucking woke leftist groomer jew, you coping gay troon.
>B-but chuddy, ummm, xe said le faggot word some years ago?!
LOL! Doesnt fucking matter and even if it did wokecucks like you are trying to "reclaim" that word
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>>721798796
Evangelicuck mutt golems like you belong in the oven with their kike masters.
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>>721798724
The grooming shit is just memes but I could see Toby making it canon that Kris had a crush for her.
Everything so far seems to suggest a intimate connection
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>>721798880
Uh, yikes? You're not getting into deltatrooncon if you sling heckin bigoted slurs like that! Do better!
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>>721739773
THE SHITTY FRISK SPRITE IS KILLING ME
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>>721756518
I can't look at this image without thinking of that one abortion edit someone made of it
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>>721798951
>golem is so braindead and irony-poisoned he doesn't have a single sincere thought in his head
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>>721799121
>I'm not le heckin irony-poisoned which makes me appreciate valid negagandder mommy bipoc characters like trannykris, troondino and troongoat! you heckin chud m-m-mutt (oh my gosh... i heckin said the word ohmygodohmygod my discord xister friends cant find out about this!)
LOL
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>>721799213
this sentence could kill a small victorian child
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>>721799213
I think you took a wrong turn on your way to sharty.
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>>721739773
Undertale is a fun little indie game made by one person that shows creativity and personal vision, but it's still just a 8/10 experience at best. But it has originality, I give you that.
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>>721793117
>*let frisk live their life
The second one is canon, though the number of fanfics that use the former is so criminally low that it makes me cry bitch tears.
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>>721799462
Would've been 10/10 if he didn't wait 10 years to reveal that HMOFA is in fact canon.
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>>721739773
Definitely one of the games ever, big time
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>>721780364
Out of that and Toby directly endorsing all sorts of fancontent and saying to stop being so rigidly attached to canon (and the mommy comment together with the girls liking girls tutorial) I won bigly. Off-model human wives won.
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Funny thing is, Toriel does exactly that when she gets drunk and it's actually unironically canon.
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i can make her worse
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>>721801876
Why does Berdly look like Hans from Fate Grand Order.
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>>721785117
My assumption is they peacefully pass away to the next life. Though, I'm also thinking of writing a sequel to Undertale where that doesn't happen and they keep existing as a ghost now free from Frisk's body. That or a Ace Attorney fangame where she becomes the equivalent of Maya.
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>>721784616
>The Soui is always you
... in Deltarune only. The world with explicitly different rules as stated by Toby. Applying Deltarune logic to Undertale breaks the latter.
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>>721801876
Get the fuck out of my head, I was thinking about posting this exact image.
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>>721786284
It's a result of homophobia and gay shipping in equal measure, ironically.

People are encouraged as kids to never have close male friendships out of fear of being called gay and then when they grow up and see characters that do they instantly think they start fucking.
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>>721801876
i headcanon human berdly looking like steve urkel
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>>721786648
She's the Frisk of Deltarune.
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>>721796821
Oh yeah? Guess what, I'm going to 100% include a scene in my Touhou fangame where most of the cast goes "I don't swing that day".
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>>721798724
Nah, Dess being a psychopath who only saw Kris as a fun plaything is way better.

>>721798906
How so?
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>>721780707
She's going to crash out hard. Kris lying to her will break her heart, throw in her not actually being the hero and she will probably go full Cloud after Aerith dies.
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>>721784708
>Asriel eats meat?
Snails count as meat.
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>>721745329
She wanted to increase herself from a 9 to a 10 and the only way was to become the most evil villain ever.
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>>721801876
Might be the first human Noelle I've seen that doesn't look weird
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>>721801876
I'm gonna pull Ralsei's braids.
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This thread gives off some strong /vg/ general thread vibes...
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>>721803190
What we really need is for Susie to take Ralsei on his offer to braid her hair. People forgot that braid is the best hairstyle for tomboys.
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>>721803736
Yeah, we're actually talking about a game
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>>721803736
You can always go back there instead.
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will she fine happiness
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>>721789237
>If people's geographic estimates are right, it's probably right around the end of october.
huh?
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>>721804194
Well, no if that were the case that'd be the opposite of /vg/, that being said, the recent content of the thread, yes, absolutely, /vg/ is here.
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>>721796976
>I thought the dialogue was hinting at Sans not seeing the Deltarune crew again
my problem with that is that he doesn't have a connection with any of the deltarune cast except toriel
plus it's not like he's a regular unsuspicious guy in deltarune
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>>721804387
After she becomes a cop and a person named happiness moves in, sure.
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>>721804519
You're right. /v/ only discusses video games and not off-topic culture war bait.
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>>721804942
If it's a game people actually care about, sure.
What you're describing usually only happens if someone says the word "Yagi" or if someone for some reason thinks it's still on the roster to perfomatively pretend to not like Undertale.
Of course as of recently that's a pretty quick way to get the thread nuked since the industry kind of sucks ass right now, and their only strategy is carpet bombing websites with astroturfing regardless of how well or not that even works as a strategy (It doesn't really and the administration here has mostly given up on deleting UT/DR threads since it's both completely failed at making the games unpopular after the fact and they keep getting made fun of).
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>>721803736
Not enough spamtenna or goteposting to be /vg/
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>>721804731
That's not true.


Kris and Susie actively dislike him.
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>>721803736
ywnbaj
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>>721805471
/v/ is a human and Susie/Noelle board.
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>>721804387
She does not deserves happiness. She deserves Kris.
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>>721804731
>my problem with that is that he doesn't have a connection with any of the deltarune cast except toriel
Yet. But yes, I agree. If anything right now it would be a situation where he's watching from a distance in Deltarune as well, that he's aware there that he shouldn't get attached.
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>>721806015
Still can't really help but feel like you guys on some level lost because of the whole Yagi thing last week.
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>>721793106
im homicidal and ive got a taste
i want to wipe out the monster race
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>>721806015
>Susie/Noelle
But not Susie x Noelle.
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>>721802983
how did kris fumble this?
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>>721806125
Stop being obsessed with some random kid and move on. You're becoming Battat in real life.
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>>721771801
does chara have on the assgore fit?
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>>721806356
Invader Zim girls are soul-devouring demons.
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>>721806469
I guess if I could narrow it down for you, I'm the guy that got banned for 3 months not you, sorry.
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Who the fuck's Yagi?
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>>721806837
The evolution of the Ralsei based on a dead kid except obnoxiously annoying now.
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>>721806356
Deliberately.
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>>721806837
Some dork some nerds accidentally proved was real and they've regretted that decisions for about a week now.
Not too important and not too unimportant.
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>>721806285
>Asriel X Dess
>More popular than Susie x Ralsei
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>>721806837
you know that theory about ralsei being based on a dead kid? some schizos managed to track down the kid and found out he's not actually dead, and i think now someone is obsessing over him (or one of his friends, not sure) trying to get him to notice them
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Who the fuck names their child Yagi anyway? It sounds like somebody misspelling a Fist of the North Star villain.
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>>721807032
Well no, if it was one of his friends they'd just talk to him, obviously. If I had to guess it's probably some quantity greater than two, plus one guy that doesn't like that he accidentally proved he exists, and won't go over and ask questions to put an end to it, since on some level that'd mean admitting some level of responsibility for the situation getting this out of hand.
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>>721807032
i have had the original non-spamton version of this image as my twitter banner for years
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>>721807068
I think that's just an internet name.
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>>721806837
Some faggot has been trying to force this "Ralsei is based on a kid who died" and now keeps bringing up a random person he says is connected to this retarded theory because he really REALLY wants it to catch on. He keeps bringing it up at random and then pretending it's not him bringing it up when you tell him to shut up.
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>>721807068
>>721807362
It just means goat again.
All his names mean goat.
>Goat Mun
>Yagi
>Goat Anon
>Kid, too, is a synonym.
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>>721771801
That's just what we need - Annoying Dog dying of theobromine poisoning before chapter 5.
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>>721807404
Right, that's what happened.
That's all that happened.
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>>721806356
both kris and noelle are self destructive retards too dense to understand what they actually want
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>>721806981
The survey was taken before Desster the Molester caught on all of a sudden.
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>>721807576
Yeah. You keep vagueposting about it at random so people get baited into asking "who the fuck is yagi" because you jack off to being given an opportunity to force the meme again. You keep alluding to some huge happening that nobody but you knows happened. You think anyone who is annoyed by you is the same person.
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>>721808112
I was banned until yesterday dumb dumb.
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>>721808268
hopefully you'll get banned again
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>>721807576
you’re got a homoerotic fixation on a kid
that’s weird
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>>721808338
Maybe I will, maybe I won't the real question is what are you gonna do if it happens and that weirdo from around 2 yesterday is still here?
>>721808443
Still not that guy.
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>>721806981
>why is Ralsusie but explicitly canon and without any other ships to compete with more popular
Truly a mystery
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>>721808539
> explicitly canon
It's two characters that we've never actually seen and might have never even dated.
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>>721808998
Pretty sure we've seen both Ralsei and Susie
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>>721807625
Kris is not self destructive enough to stay the fuck away from a ticking time bomb like Noelle.
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>>721739895
if they attack first kill them
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>>721744352
>ten years later still not finished
i guess hes really taking it easy and doing side jobs all the time
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>>721739773
You don’t get to call others fags and etc if you play this game.
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>>721810724
You are a fag, fag.
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>>721810724
but i hate the fags in this game too
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>>721810276
You know as things go on, it becomes more reasonable and understandable how Toby let things happen the way they did and he got stuck for years because gamemaker couldn't handle Deltarune.
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>Fate of the world rests on this 'man'
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>>721810897
He should have switched to Unity...
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>>721810838
pretty much every main character in undertale is some form of queer
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>>721810960
no they arnt you dumb nigger
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>>721810897
I'm sure Gamemaker could 'handle it' but it would take some coding chops. You would need to break its guardrails and start incorporating the advanced features.

>>721810937
Kind of glad he stuck to his guns and didn't
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>>721810937
I get why he didn't but, yeah, maybe.
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>>721810937
Redevelopment is never worth it under any circumstances no matter what supposed benefits you get from doing so.
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>>721771214
Technically yeah, although i might need those



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