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Fuck Nvidia
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i would wait for udna next year
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>>721740328
That'd be great if I didn't need a new computer this year.
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>>721740434
why, what games are coming out that you NEED a pc now?
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>>721740434
I'm still on the 7800XT. I won't be upgrading for at least 3 more years
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>>721740537
Silent Hill f and Borderlands 4 you retard no friends loser faggot who probably thinks linux is a viable alternative to windows
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>>721740537
It's not about games. I needed a new motherboard to be able to switch to Windows 11.
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>>721740586
Baseado
It just werks
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>>721740670
if you hate linux then you should be getting a nvidia instead
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>>721740182
>Rx 9060 xt with 16GB is still sitting at 350 bucks
I'm too hawkish with my money to spend that much on a single element of my machine. Even though my current card is severely outdated.
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>>721741071
get a 5060 ti 16 gb it's just 50 bucks more and runs all games at 80 watts
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>>721740670
the only purpose of AMD graphics cards is linux gaming
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How did AMD manage to out-maneuver Nvidia so hard that they leaped four generations ahead?
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>>721740182
would
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>>721740182
If amd can't sell that thing how will you?
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>>721740182
Why does it only have 16GB of VRAM? Has technology stagnated for the last 10 years?
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>>721742017
100% good games run on 8gb vram
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>>721742017
Consoles have 16GB of shared RAM total
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>>721740182
One day you want to Generate some Loli AI porn. You cant because it requires Nvidia GPU
One day you want to Animate some 3d Loli porn. You cant because most 3d software use CUDA, which is available on Nvidia GPU
One day you want to Play Nintendo Games on PC. You cant because it runs better on Nvidia GPU
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>>721742150
Fucking insane how much consoles are holding back video games.
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>>721740182
Based, I paid the same for my 9070 xt as a 5070 ti even though the former is slightly worse just because I fucking hate njudea.
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>5700
>6700
>7700
>9070
What kind of retarded naming scheme is that?
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>>721742292
>Fucking insane how much consoles are holding back video games.
Fuck off, Unreal Engine 5 dev
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>>721742328
>90
They switched the first part to Ryzen equivalent series number
>70
They switched the latter part to Nvidia equivalent model number

9070 XT - Sold along with Ryzen 9000 (Zen 5), the direct competitor to 5070 ti - a higher mid range GPU
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>>721742334
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>>721743053
As a result the game runs well on PC, shader compilation issues aside.

Your point?
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>>721740182
What game should I play on my new 9070xt? It's a powercolor red devil.
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>>721740182
$800.00 USD for a mid range card is retarded

>>721740670
So nothing
ok
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>>721743253
Cyberpunk with RT ultra just to experience it, that's the first game I played after I got mine. After that, play Dying Light: The Beast.
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>>721740182
I'm generating a lot of AI loli porn with Nvidia's GPUs. Can't do that shit with AMD
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With FSR4 there's no reason to get Nvidia for DLSS, but FSR4 needs better native support.

I'm using OptiScaler, but I can't just do that in online multiplayer games without risking ban
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>>721743373
Fuck off you brown pedo, no one cares what you're doing with your 3060
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>>721740182
over 300watts power draw is insane
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>>721743550
Stop projecting jeet reddit tourist
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>>721743550
>Sponsor sama look out!
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People were clowning on the RTX 5070 but I got it under MSRP and I've played a ton of games maxed out in 1440p without any problems like SH2 Remake, Calir Obscur, Cyberounk 2077 RT, Battlefield 6 etc.
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Fsr4 is as good as dlss4, basically. So what's the point of Nvidia graphics cards?

>ray tracing!
Unusable at good quality unless you have a 5090
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>>721743362
Okay thank you
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>>721743757
16GB is a new 8GB
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>>721743607
AMD always sets power draw way higher than it needs, mine has a comfy -70 watt underclock without touching the clock spots
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>>721743813
>>>ray tracing!
Actually AMD is lately beating Nvidia in ray tracing in console games that were actually made for ray tracing.

In path tracing it's still a joke, but so is every GPU that isn't 4090 or 5090, unless you go down to 720p resolution
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>>721742292
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

Scroll down to system RAM then kill yourself, dumb PCmutt.
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>>721743847
Not until 2027-2028 when the new consoles come out. It's all a meme
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>>721740737
It literally does. 1440p >100FPS for me with zero issues. Cost a whole $350 bucks (on sale).
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>>721744129
I used to have RTX 2070S.
8GB is not enough.
16GB will run everything that isn't some RTX Remix tech demo. 12GB is already pushing the limits in some games.
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>>721740732
Just use your current gpu then what's the problem?
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>>721740182
>Fuck Nv-ACK!
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>>721742292
it's the other way around anon. Consoles are the only thing stopping devs from making bloated unoptimized 1TB games for no reason.
All videogame advances made in the ps1 era were because devs tried to do cool shit with the limited resources
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>>721744471
>upgrade amd drivers
>windows decides to add their own drivers a week later
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>>721744471
I have been using 9070 XT for almost 5 months and drivers are rock solid.
The only crash I had was because I fucked up undervolting.

And all the 2025 Nvidia drivers on my 2070S were fucked up and that was a well known issue across all Nvidia GPUs
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>>721744027
>RTX 4060: 4.66%
>RTX 3060: 4.62%
>RTX 3050: 2.91%
>RTX 4060 Ti: 2.90%
>RTX 4060 Laptop GPU: 4.43%
>RTX 3060 Laptop GPU: 2.25%
And if you ask the retards here, everyone is using 4090.
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>>721744471
>posting muh drivers meme in 2025 with the absolute fucking state of nvidia drivers
This jeet shill has an outdated script, you need to mention dlss or fg or something else
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>>721743607
>>721743857
My 7900xtx out of the box wanter to do 360-400w. After undervolt its like 180-250w now.
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>>721744861
>Letting windows have control over drivers
You fucking asked for it.
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>>721740182
Sorry but I love my H100s.
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The biggest Nvidia mistake with 50 series is that they allowed the thought of AMD drivers being actually good into general consciousness and that Nvidia is no longer premium when it comes to drivers and software.
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>>721743607
nvidia's power draw is only as low as it is because they shifted hardware controls to the driver. Where do you think "nvidia driver overhead" came from?
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>>721744471
Nvidia now has worse drivers though. Get with the times.
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>>721745541
Nvidia drivers have never once been "premium" this was a malicious shill campaign and more anti-competitive practices by them and it somehow became taken as a fact. Nvidia has always had driver issues just like AMD, now Nvidia is even worse and it feels like half their drivers are "vibe coded" with AI. I swapped from Nvidia 3070 to 9070 xt because the drivers had made my card functionally unusable and I haven't had a single problem with my 9070 xt besides some specific game settings not wanting to save sometimes in adrenalin
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>>721740182
I'm seriously considering AMD for my next upgrade if I can get for a non-retarded price when a more powerful card with 24GB comes out. Crazy how bad Nvidia has fucked up for this to even be a consideration.
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>>721745541
>>721746045
Every minor bug AMD drivers had got amplified meanwhile when nvidia drivers brick cards due to disabling fans it gets memoryholed, or when they ship 5080s with less ROPs than advertised, or when their 90 series cards catch your house on fire etc. That's what being the richest company on the planet does for you I guess.
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>>721740182
>no cuda
>no DLSS
lol
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since consoles use AMD I feel like I have to use AMD for that optimization bonus in the future
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>>721742289
is this really the best nvidia can afford? a frogposter?
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>>721742289
>One day you want to Generate some Loli AI porn
no? i'm not a jeet why would i
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>>721746652
Im warning ya. I had been there before.
AMD GPU. Never again
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>>721740182
I only buy non nvidia since the 3.5gb shitshow
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>>721740670
bro are you for real calling other people losers when you're playing fucking borderlands 4 lmao
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>>721746045
>because the drivers had made my card functionally unusable
That's called planned obsolescence my boy.
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>>721744471
been using AMD for a few years now. had a r9 580, 6600xt, and now have a 7900gre. have had exactly one driver issue which was related to using two displays with different hz. AMD fixed it after a week or two. zero issues since. i hear far more people having issues with nvidia drivers, worse raster performance, and numerous issues with UE5 games and dx12. AMD is releasing udna next year and it sounds very promising, meanwhile nvidia just keeps getting worse.
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>>721747215
Haven't you learned by now this board is full of literal paid nVidia marketing shills?
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>>721744471
>>721744867
Got a 9060xt when it came out and the first month it was crashing every other day, but it hasn't crashed since first driver update.
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721742292
>https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
50% of Steam users don't have an 8 core CPU to launch Borderlands 4. 75% of Steam doesn't have PCs with more than 8GB VRAM which are effectively out of date builds.

PC Vegan. No (you) for you.
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>>721747215
>i hear far more people having issues with nvidia drivers
to be fair, they also have 10x the amount of desktop users
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>>721747683
meant for
>>721742292
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How does a 2080 Ti stack up in the current day if I need a W11 computer but no time to immediately go jumping for a graphics card? Mind you I ask this as someone that at best would fuck with RTX Remix mods or fan RT projects rather than AAA raytracing. AMD does seem like my next big choice otherwise for a notable GPU upgrade.
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>>721747850
>I MUST CONSOOOOOOOM
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>>721741332
>9060 tdp: 160w
>5060 ti tdp: 180w
why are you such a lying faggot?
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>>721747991
its fact, sorry
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>>721748072
Paid shills gotta shill to get them nuggies with honey mustard
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>>721748162
>HAVING MORE MEANS ITS BETTER BEEP BOP BEEP BEEP
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>>721740182
>Requires 3x the work for me to run Stable Diffusion or Kobold
No thank you. I will continue to pay the green tax.
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>>721742017
So you have to buy the 1500€ Radeon AI PRO R9700 if you want 32 GB VRAM. It's literally a 9070 XT with 32 instead of 16 GB.

AMD are less Jewish than Nvidia but only slightly.

>>721747981
2080Ti can still run any game there is.
Might as well keep running it until RDNA5/UDNA cards are out.
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>>721741332
>Hey you don't want to spend 350 on a card? Why don't you spend 400+ on a card instead!
What's the logic behind this retardation?
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>>721748262
Some people should stay on nVidia. If they do work that requires the technology an nVidia card offers, then yes. There is no reason for them to switch to AMD.
But, those people are in the minority.
The average person doesn't NEED an nVidia card. They don't use their PCs for anything that demanding or advanced. They use their PCs to jerk their pathetic tiny cocks to xvideos and TIKTOK thots, play video games, watch Netflix, maybe pay bills... But because they're are sheep brained, low IQ, NPC, consumers with zero self awareness or internal dialogue they just run out and buy what the funny man on YouTube tells them.
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>>721748259
literally not what I said, you must either be a nigger or an indian, go back to third grade reading
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>>721748262
./kobold-nocuda --usevulvan --sdmodel cunnygenerator.safetensors

Wow so difficult
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I put my 7900 XTX back in after being fucked around with the 5080 drivers for weeks and still haven't swapped it back yet. Should probably check if they're less fucked yet. I guess I'll get around to it when I want to play something which is RT heavy, which is what I bought it for, but the AMD card is still absolutely fine for anything else.
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>>721748721
>--usevulvan
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>>721748930
heh got me
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>>721742017
Because of AI bullshit of course, why sell 32gb of VRAM to gamers when AI companies will pay several times the price for it and most games don't use over 16gb.
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>>721741071
Unfortunately, unless you want an intel 12gb B580 for $250 (good luck finding one at MSRP), the 9060XT is probably the best bang for buck under like $500. You can always look for deals on used cards though.
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>built in early 2020 just for Bannerlord
>great ventilation, room always sub-78°F
>dust a few times annually
>no issues whatsoever for five years
>come fall this year GPU starts getting noticeably hot during Spengies and Squad
i-is this the end of the lifespan...
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>>721749646
A 5 year old could build better than that shit
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>tfw actually considering a 5090 so I can get into ai and goon my mind out
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>>721749829
what wrong wiffit
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>>721740182
a 5070ti is $100 more for 5% incr raster perf, 15% increased RT perf, 11% AI workload perf (also mandatory), generationally faster memory bandwidth and far superior memory compression for better future proofing
CUDA, DLSS, reflex, NVENC
you're really going to give all this up for $100
the hard pill to swallow is that nvidia monopolized the market by offering the better product, everyone knows it. You'd be silly to buy this
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>>721746592
topkek
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>>721749646
Have you tried opening up the GPU and replacing the thermal paste and or thermal pads yet?
You can find usually some disassembly guides on youtube unless you have a super special limited edition card or some weird OEM model.
also
>speccy
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>>721749829
How so?
The i9-9900k was literally the fastest gaming CPU at the time and the only way he could've gotten a better GPU would've been upgrading to the 2080Ti or Titan RTX.
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should i upgrade from my 6750 xt to something newer? it does alright with most of the games i play but it is kinda old
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I have had my 9060XT for about a month now, i expected issues but so far everything's been fine with the gpu and it was 100€ cheaper than the 5060TI.
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>>721744471
Only driver issues I have is when windows push an update and break some shit on my pc for no reason.
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>>721740182
As soon as I bought this I lost my job so I couldn’t buy the rest of the computer. I think it might have put a curse on me.
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>>721750136
What's your temps?
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I have a 9070 XT and while the performance is great, the AMD driver issues that I remember from when I had my R9 290X are still here. Lots of crashes, odd cursor corruption, all sorts of shit that they've had more than a decade to fix.
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>>721750091
I always assumed I'd just have to detach the cooler, wipe off the old paste, and alcohol swab the surfaces before applying the new paste -- but the CPU itself hasn't ever gotten alarmingly hot and the process seemed way too tedious to get into just for maintenance. What's wrong with speccy?
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>>721750434
like 50-60C more or less
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>>721750485
Make a fresh install with display driver uninstaller.
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>>721750525
Yeah, that's pretty much it, couldn't hurt to replace the paste.
>what's wrong with speccy
you know...
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>>721750672
I've done that, the behavior persists and the card is fine hardware-wise. I could believe that this is a Windows 11 issue rather than the AMD drivers specifically, but it's still annoying.
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>>721750525
Speccy doesn't keep up with modern systems. HWinfo, winfetch, or something else would be better.
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>>721740182
So fvcking based...
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>>721750743
i had a dumb issue where W11 decided to install it's own graphic drivers over the AMD ones and then disabled the GPU in device manager.
I moved to W11 like a month ago and that never happened in W10 so it might be W11 fucking you over too
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>>721750713
You can use my paste. It comes in a big thick meaty tube. You'll have to squeeze and stroke it to get it to come out though.
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>>721740182
I won't buy Radeon until AI goongens work just as well and effortlessly as on Nvidia.
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>>721751029
I usually use my mouth on to get the thermal paste out of the tube...
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>>721740182
Nah a 5070 is 500$ and is doing me pretty good
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>>721750952
Thanks for the tip anon :^)
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>>721751407
Bet you love tips don't you? Big purple tips that surprise you with hit cream.
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>>721749936
That's assuming you're fine with an assrock 9070xt. All the other models are 50 dollars cheaper.
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>>721740182
>no one will no I'm a poorfag online
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>>721749936
lol
nvidia is so shit now that the 9070xt is tying or beating the 5080 at rt in NVIDIA SPONSORED GAMES
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>>721740732
no you don't just use rufus.
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>>721740182
Based. Stop supporting greed.
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>>721750485
I used to have cursor corruption on my rx580, never thought the gpu could be the cause, what a weird issue to have.
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>>721750136
I upgraded my 6700XT to a 9070XT. The performance uplift and FSR4 is nice and yes you can force the 6000 series to Optiscale FSR4 but it doesn't look or run as nearly aswell as on RDNA4
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>>721748643
400 bucks for premium experience is cheap as fuck. you are actually getting scammed with the 9060 xt because you will be locked to linux, fsr3 and sometimes 4 which is still ugly and terrible frame generation
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>>721752057
the 5080 gets lower latency using mfg x4 than the 9070 xt does at (((native)))
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>>721750485
I've had no driver issues at all so I don't know what to tell you.
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>>721752721
absolute delusion
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What are /v/'s thoughts on buying a refurbished card?
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>>721755761
post a specific listing
generally the used market is scummy on price to perf even though that's the whole damn point



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