fuck/marry/kill - act 1, act 2, act 3
>FuckAct 2>MarryAct 1>KillAct 3
kill act 3then kill it again to make sure its deadfucking disaster
Lace wins AU
Does /v/ have a Silksona?
>>721750501
>>721750230Seth is the Chad to Tiso's virgin.
>>721750415This
First Sinner is the best boss btw
>>721750661That's my friendo
>>721750501>>721750584>Lace wins AUThat'd be if Hornet just bails, dies, or lets Pharloom sink into the void.
>>721750230I just defeated Radiant Markoth bros
>>721750661Why does Team Cherry hate Tiso's creator so much? >Makes him into a lame edgelord>Has in die off screen>Brings him back in the final DLC only to kill him in a comical manner.
>>721750740Why didn't the Wyrm King help raise hornet? And just pawn her off on a Bee, and his Tree wife.
>>721750415>anon doesn't like LITERALLY EVERY ENEMY IN THE GAME gaining the ability to deal 2 damageLAAAAAAAAAAAMELAAAME
>>721750772Worst boss in the game. I'm glad Silksong has no Dream Warrior equivalents.
>>721750897He was busy with kingdom, saws and favorite son
>>721750897Too busy in his basement with his buzzsaws.
>>721750971
>>721750920I wouldn't mind it if the enemies got expanded movesets and not just 'pause mid air and shit out a bunch of projectiles that will likely blend into the environment before exploding randomly'
>>721750973yet
>>721750230All the whining about this game has been great for my gamer self esteem, I was never stuck on anything for more than an hour or two and was able to 100% in 50 hours (though I did have to use a guide for the final 7%).
>>721750673this picture rules
>>721751004>>721751007Don't forget, tinkering with void like a lunatic. His dad hobbies went too far...
I finished the game.Really liked it overall but honestly what took them over 7 years? If you told me this game had a 4 year dev cycle, MAYBE 5, I'd believe it. But over 7?
>>721751168They were in no rush. HK literally gave them financial freedom.
>>721750897He knew she'd be fine
>>721751058It is great feeling not gonna lie.
>>721751168small team, no time pressure, and the desire to do it right
721750501721750584>yet another tranny fanart
>>721751058>>721751289That's one way of saying that you love having your ego stroked. I 100%ed the game in less time than you btw
>>721750897The Pale King loves running from his responsibilities. >Literally her father>Pawns her off to be raised only by womenAnd he's surprised she grew up to sleep around with random bugs and eventually become a lesbians.
>>721750501>>721750584cool fanart
>>721750897He never cared about her
>>721751168They kept expanding and adding stuff, also there's only two people doing the non music work i think. Also kept changing ideas. They do have finished assets for entire scrapped zones. The coral tower gauntlet? Those were all the underwater enemies you'd have found around.
>>721751470And now he's dead. Coincidence????
>>721751438>so desperate for validation that xe replies to ximself
>>721751486Which is hilarious because after all that time act 3 feels so underbaked they should've spent more time on it and saved it for DLC.
>>721750815Unironically because the backer is an annoying fuck who sperges out on xitter and their kickstarter page
>>721751694Oh I figured it was something like that but I didn't want to assume. Any screenshots?
>>721751694Well tiso is pretty annoying himself so it makes sense
>>721750971Me in the whiteward.
>>721751694i thought he wanted his character to be a joke like that or some shit
>>721751694Cloth was from the same backer as Tiso and she was treated respectfully.
>>721750815>Brings him back in the final DLC only to kill him in a comical manner.This was the funniest shit ever.
I don't think I like this Lost Lace fight bros
In act 2 and everything i do and everywhere i go just leads to a new sadistic rape scenario. Iceraped in Mount gay, drillraped in the Sands of karak, maggotraped in blightown, CLANKED in the citadel, hunted down and check splitted in the deep docks
>>721752090you're getting greedy and running into her, I assume?
>>721752285Man, wait till you get to the actual rape and impreg scenes.
>>721752285>deep docksCheckss out. Those coal shoveler guys have sexual moans.
>>721752314Yes. I fought the last three bosses like a tard chugging flea juice and just spamming slashes up close and it's no longer working.
>>721752285>Mt fey>KaraakAre you having platforming issues? You can switch to an easier poggo crest like reaper and wanderer if that's what's causing you trouble.
>>721751694>>721751818jesus christ i went to his xitter and he makes like 30 tweets a day. he sounds about 15 as well. kid needs to log the fuck off
>>721752556What did he do?
>>721752556post @
so these are just repeatable for ever right ?
>>721750501Lace already won in canon though.
So if the Weavers of Hallownest abandoned it to return to Pharloom after the infection set in, but they were part of a group that had already ran away in the first place after putting GMS to sleepWhere the fuck are those Weavers? Not that it's a huge thing, it's just a description in one of the charms in HK, but seems like a dropped plot point.
>>721752692Yes
>>721750584I hope Lace does have her mom's hair when she removes the headdress.
>>721752625nothing in particular that i can see, but i scrolled for like 5 minutes and im still in september. im sure theres some fairly unhinged shit if you look deep enough in his 65000 posts>>721752638https://x.com/SuperTiso
>>721752090It's one of those fights you hate at first and are stuck on for hours, but then when you beat it you immediately want to do it again and realize how much better you got. At least that's how I found it to be.
>>721752742I don't think they went back to pharloom, they probably fucked off even further.
>>721752742>Where the fuck are those Weavers?Under your bed
NKG feels like he moves in slow motion compared to First Sinner or even Widow, wonder what sadistic shit they have in store for DLC
What's the best place to farm beads in Act 3? My normal route is no longer applicable.
>>721750230Would Lace and the Hollow Knight be friends?
>>721752827The weaversong charm in HK specifically said it was a charm left by the weavers that returned to their old home.
>>721750661He should be the protagonist of HK3
>>721752692Yes, but only the first completion counts towards unlocking act 3.
>>721752886>>721752692
>>721753001those are gay though
>>721752886Choral Chambers is still the best area overall.
>>721752898She talks too muchHe doesn't speak at all.
>>721752704Won my cock in her silky pussy.
I just finished the game 100% took 62 hours, only thing I looked up a guide for was the mushroom guy and last few missing enemies for bestiary and a few tools I was missing. Overall liked the game but hated act 3 and the amount of time wasting MMO style collection quests, also making us do those annoying as fuck mini games just for the final nail upgrade felt like a humiliation ritual. 7/10 will probably uninstall and never play again.
>>721753294the minigames were easy as fuck lmao get filtered faggot
>>721752929Hmm, i guess they either forgot, or the charm description is wrong. Or they came to hallownest from somewhere else, which was the first place they ran to from pharloom. Maybe it was the steel kingdom.
>100%>filtered
>>721750501>>721750584They are related you perverted trannies
>>721752898is it daddy issues if you just love your dadsuch a uniquely grim scenario
>>721753409>>721752929it never said they returned voluntarily.
>>721752929>>721753409Maybe those were the Weavers that managed to get into the Abyss.
>>721753339They were but the one with keeping the fleas in the air was so tedious and such a time waste, I'd say a good 30 hours of play time was just pure time wasted on pointless bloat throughout the whole game.
>>721753560NBR is for cowards.Or I guess "not silk related" for them.
>>721753261So yes.
>>721753294A lot of people love or hate act 3, but i do agree the quests could have been more innovative. At least the, collect 10 rags ones. A lot of them were fine, like the look for bosses, save people ones. Maybe if they were more like the huntress one, where you have to figure out how to kill something rather than how many.
>>721752991I either want the protag to be Lace or Him. I'd be happy with either. But I'm more curious about Lace cus Void & Silk powers sound cool and fun.
>>721753560Even if they weren't, it'd still be troonshit.
>>721751168It was made by 3 guys
>>721753571I feel like there would have been mentions of finding full weavers, not just happas and octaroons.
>>721753560And? Didn't stop people from shipping Hornet with the Knight. Also they're bugs and born from gods. Incest is normal with both bugs and gods.
>>721753813so was the first hollow knight, yet it was made in less time but didnt feel rushed like silksongadmit your game is flawed or go back
forgot v is infested with poltards indefinitely assmad about the tranny menace for a minute there
So what's the deal with Styx?Why does he wear the mask?
>>721750772Good job, it's pretty much the second most difficult boss in the game
>>721753560Where do you think you are?
Getting filtered hard core by Lost Lace. Should I just wait for the inevitable difficulty nerf?
>faggot hates when people call xim out
Doing speedrun steel soul. Is this good pace? I took a detours to get the Fractured Mask and Silkstorm.
>>721753435I feel like it's bait but then I look at a post higher in the thread and then I think it's not. These guys really are desperate to have their ego stroked and will pounce at literally anyone saying they don't like something/have any sort of difficulty in the game in order to do so. It's why giving criticism sucks currently
Man there's not a lot of yellow tools, huh
>>721753560So are the Green Princes, who cares
>>721754075Yeah definitely, just make sure you go through Phantom instead of Last Judge.
>>721750415I like Act 3 purely from a boss fight, lore, and story standpoint. I dislike Act 3 from a backtracking standpoint.
>>721753957no one cared who he was until he put it on>>721754075yeah youre fine
>>721753909Nta, but Silksong has flaws, however feeling rushed wasn't one of them. My biggest criticism is how often unrewarding things feel. Most secret areas are shell caches, and most bosses and gauntlets feel like roadblocks rather than challenges, because enemies don't even drop currencies inside, and only a few bosses drop some item.
>>721754026All her attacks are telegraphed as fuck.
>>721753671>>721753893Trannies on cue. Making everything gay and lame. Literal bioweapons in a human form.
>>721754026just stay far away from her until she finishes an attack, dash in, hit her, dash out. its that easy. she has nothing ranged or that covers a lot of distance quickly enough. if she stands still to summon void bullshit, punish her
>>721754331Just because you're obsessed with trannies doesn't mean everyone else is. Go take your fetish elsewhere.
>>721750897Too busy jerking off to sawblades
God, Steel Soul feels so fucking good. The adrenaline from having to get a boss right the first time, then having done so, feels amazing.
>>721754026It's a shitty simon says fight in a way, you need to wait for her to attack 90% of the time.
>>721753957He was slave to the weavers and looking to get back to the day job
What version of the Silkshot you've got and which one is the superior?I got the one from the Twelfth Architect that triple shots. Apparently the one from Forge Daughter is a single shot and the Weaver one is a slow, but stronger and penetrating single shot.
>>721754426>says the guy who spams xis troonfics
>>721750230
>>721754426Anons obsessed with trannies often end up trooning out themself. Just ignore him and let nature take its course.
>>721754194>however feeling rushed wasn't one of them>saying this when act 3 exists and we know that entire areas like the coral area and other areas we see in the trailer (like that one village with the shells) were cutNTA but come on now lol
>>721754568Crazy how its realistic that Lace would actually say this to Hornet...
>>721754568I'm watching family guy funny moments like lace was while waiting for hornet
>>721754632Trust me, all these gay shippers have higher chance of trooning out than him.>Captcha: KRRGAY
>>721754507feel like there's a good amount of this going on with some of the bosses
>>721754568Not for long, slut.
>>721754568Why is Hornet grooming this womanchild?
>>721752742Generally gone I thinkOne went crazy and can't use her own silkOne is imprisonedYou can find 3 cages in the Cradle that mention the fates of 2 that you can find, I think.
>>721754831>pedophile>body is that of an adult>thousands of years oldMake it make sense.
>>721754668nta but it you actually look at the map progression then it was the aesthetics of the areas that were changed, not the layout. So it was more a creative choice for Karak to be a sandy rocky area due to the resource hoarding of the Citadel, when it was a watery area in its past.
>>721750661This boss was retarded. There wasn't even music. You just start fighting some literal who random npc. Who the fuck cares.
>>721754668I liked Act 3 though. Those areas weren't cut because they weren't finished. They were finished like 4 years ago. We have the maps, of how the game developed each year. They seem to have cut them as a conscious stylistic choice. Probably to emphasis the Citadel ruining the environment message, and replaced them with a desert. I can see them being added in a dlc.
>>721754945Lace is Loli-coded.
>>721754945Words that kill (billions).
>Running out of shards because I keep fumbling the the Lost Lace final phase>Gonna have to back track out of the void and there's no map to make it easyAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>721754739That's great sis
>>721754945Yes so very adult-like to have your body to be 3 heads tall.
>>721754965>There wasn't even music.There was.
>>721754507Well, yeah. It's not that bad (besides the black on black attacks and the fact she can teleport on top of you)If you just:>hover in the air for her three piece attack so she always does the dive>do the same for her counter (it checls both versions)>attack her after she spits out those razor bladesshe dies, in like, 2 seconds, especially if you use wanderer. She[s always open after like half of her moveset
>>721755085No more shards, anon, buckle up. Only raw needle and silk skills for you.
>>721754831Post the full image
>>721754845She eats silk
>>721755085there is a map
>>721754945It's hotter.
>>721755085>there's no map???
>>721755197catbox.moe/c/xa4nwjShe has dolljoints because that makes the most sense to me and because dolljoints are really, really hot.
>>721754562Forge Daughter is the one with the best dps
>>721755085Pop the Hornet statue
>>721755085Abyss map is right above the bench before Lost Lace.
>>721755281ナイス
>>721755396If you do that pilby dies
>>721755493do you even see that guy anywhere after pilgrim's rest?
>>721755493no idea who that is but he can hang out with the unnamed corpse we threw off a bridge
>>721755250>>721755273>>721755448What the fuck >>721755396I will never.
>>721754568Her dialogue is so ridiculously corny thay you cannot take anything about her seriously.
>>721755161She's the same height as hornet and many other bugs in this game. Believe it or not but its not normal for bugs to be as tall as Shakra.
I like that Lace has a finisher animation for you if she kills you with her explosions, just like you had for the final three bosses. Absolute kino.
>>721755281>>721754831This better be futa. I'm not clicking unless it is.
>>721754191The thing that annoyed me the most about A3 is the enemies in the dreams not dropping shards
>>721756002the tools in the dreams don't cost shards, to be fair
Why the fuck did they decide to make her randomly show up in the middle of Deep Docks and then fuck off until the Cradle? Bizarre. Even Moorwing had more presence because you needed to beat him to unlock Bellhart (unless you moved the fleas first like I did) and that's not getting into bosses like Last Judge, the Dancers, and TROBIOOOO
>>721750230My objectively correct Crest Tier listCrests I use: Hunter & ShamanCrests I might consider using maybe: WitchCrest I only use for farming: ArchitectCrests I never use: Everything else. >>721755085>Gadget spammerThis is what you get when you rely on crutches all game.
>>721754026No. Just keep fighting her and you'll win. Her attacks are extremely telegraphed. >>721755768Its part of her charm.
Does anything change if you find lost verdania before bringing the other 3 hearts to the snail shamans?
>Blocks your attacks
Post gameplay, fags
>trapped big spider in hand vaccuum>it survived being sucked up, I can see it in the clear container trying to work its way outShe's biding her time until she can snap my neck
>>721756268no it's just a substitute for any one
>>721755396You soulless abomination.
>>721756282*pogos your huge ass*
>>721755673Absolutely mindboggling that you would think there isn't a mapFucking explorelets like you are the ones saying the game is bad because exploration isnt rewarding btwDon't tell me you missed the coral tower shortcut, tooLmao
>>721756268You can use that heart as a replacement for one of the other three. If you then go back and beat the fourth after the ritual is complete, you can put that one in your bellhome as a trophy.
>>721756163For me it's Reaper and nothing else, I wish beast was good so but it's so bad.
>>721756413This makes me think, what if you collect all 4 and go to them for the ritual?
>>721756002Anon tools used in dream fights refill automatically.
Im in a3 and Im basically just cheat engine-ing my way through it so I can be done with the game. What a fucking slop. I shouldve just let the game end when I killed the silk grandmother the first time in a2
>>721756501You use the normal ones and keep the prince heart. That's what I did.
>>721756548get a load of this loser lmao
>>721756467I'm undecided between Hunter and Shaman. On the one hand Hunter is the has been my favorite Crest for 99% of my entire playthrough, but on the other hand I fucking love Shaman crest and I love being back to have 3 silk skills, and a charge attacks.
>>721756613Its a single player game, I can do whatever the fuck I want. You[re more of a loser than I am if you force yourself through tedium just because you want to adhere to the developers rules
>>721756289I'm too retarded to make webms.
>>721756282>*Pogo's (You), and throws poisonous tacks on the ground *
>>721756467I really want to like Reaper more but I can't get used to the forced input lag. It fucks with my timing in ways I just cannot adjust to.
>>721756695>I can do whatever the fuck I wantAnd I can call you a loser because you are one.
All the crests are boring, the gameplay is boring, the runbacks are tedious, 50% of enemies in the game being flying enemies is tedious, most of the bossfights are not fun to learn but tediousHollow Knight is my favorite metroidvania gameSilksong is my least favorite metroidvania gameHoly fuck I hate this garbage ass game
>>721756467>>721756778I must be in the minority because I hated Raper crest the second I used it. I hate how fucking slow it is. I just stuck with Hunter's crest and got gud at the down attack.
>>721756845Is this bait
>>721756501It prioritizes the 3 marked ones and you keep the faggot aids heartIf you dont want that shit in your bellhome, you have to save one of the 3 marked ones for after you do that quest. The marking will dissapear but they'll still be thereI have the encrusted heart in my home, as I think it looks best. Heart of the wild is second place
>>721755925It's hmofa
>>721756845Skill issue the post. I love that this game has filtered so many fake gaymers.
>>721754965The whole Nyleth thing felt very undercooked. The other two heart fights (that you're told of) have a lot of spectacle and grandeur to them. This one feels like it was meant to be part of Shellwood but they scraped it and then put it back in for act 3.
I dont like flea dodge because Vog keeps calling me garbage :(
>>721756695Why are you playing the game if you're not going to play the game?Just watch a youtube video of act 3 retard
>>721756923Its not bait, over the course of my entire playthrough I probably have uttered to myself "I hate this fucking game" at least 100 times. Every single bit of fun the game provides is completely taken away by all the tedium the game forces upon you
>>721756778>Forced input lagNigger what? I used it the entire playthrough when I got it and had no issues.
Really? People were getting filtered by this? This was easier than NKG and Pure Vessel, and that's with the substantially better kit of the Knight.
>>721757017i think he's talking about the pogo having a slight delay in the animation
>>721756973A lot of Act 3 should have been placed into Act 2. Act 3 should have just been a dive into the Abyss to free Pharloom, it shouldn't have been called an "act" at all.
>>721757013Then stop playing you fucking mongDamn you're stupidLiterally uninstall the game, admit you've been filtered, and go back to playing games you actually fucking likeAbsolutely baffling behavior
>>721756745>throws poisonous tacks on the groundDamn I should have tried that myself.
>>721757051i think his huge ass body and fire whirl are what fuck people up
>>721757051All the whining is just psyop marketing to make gamers feel epic and awesome.
>>721757136>FiLtErEd>SkIlL iSsUeYou really can tell the same Fromdrones audience likes this game. When every single point of criticism about the game gets deflected by these buzzwords instead of being deflected by counterarguments with substance. Its basically what Fromdrones have been doing for the past 15 years. Kill yourself
>>721757051Look, I'm getting old and my reflexes are slower.Plus I'm just shit in general.Putting that aside, reposting from another thread because this one seems more active:Just finished the game.Knight is such a good little brother, looking out for his sister like that.Also, I thought bugs lost sentience when they were away from certain locations because of lack of soul. How the fuck are they migrating?Also also: I thought Pharloom was a tower, why is there a town on top of it? Were we underground?
>>721757059Guess I just got used to it myself and never noticed, I found the platforming a lot easier in this game compared to HK and I absolutely hated the platforming bits in HK because I sucked at them, maybe it's because Reaper is so slow and has a huge downward hitbox I found it easier.
>>721750230Okay seriously I'm bad at the game. Anyone know a good trick to beat the disgraced chef lugoli? Their main mechanic is preventing you from healing and saturating the entire arena in damage, which means my sorry ass can't beat them conventionally because I exclusively save silk to heal. I'm about to go full architectural on that bond burger'd ass but it isn't very upgraded sadly. Normally I switch between reaper and wanderer. Send help, I need my pale condiment.
>>721757013So, what exactly filtered you lol? Was it Bilewater?
>>721757051Wait until you see how many people got filtered by the giga chad ant guard.
There’s a room in Far Fields with two ants throwing weapons at a hanging wooden target.Is there some kind of secret in there I’m missing? It got my gamer senses all turgid.>No screenshot I’m at work
>>721757051It's okay anon, I got the jokeMOVE OUT THE WAY BEFORE IT'S TOO L-
For how long was Hornet held captive at the start of silksong? Dialouge with the chapel maid seems to imply that she was in there long enough to lose her strength
>>721757303Reapers pogo range also lets you smack things if you aren't entirely above them so it's actually way better for platforming than Wanderer
>>721757360Another faggot>>721757275
>>721750230I dislike Act 3 because it feels rushed somehow despite the long development time.>every enemy gets a devil trigger but it equally grants the same abilities to every enemy>sea area got cut comparing with trailer footage, transformed into a series of arenas>in fact, the dream areas in general are surprisingly short>last boss is mechanically and thematically fun, but it's just an asset reuse fight>you get cool stuff like the shaman crest and the vertical movement thing, but since as already stablished Act 3 is short, it feels like the cool things you earn here come too late to matterMeanwhile, I think the early game during Act 1 until you get a dash is slightly too long as it felt like a good 2-3 hours to me until I felt like the game really opened up. They should've cut more from Act 1 and added more to Act 3. Act 2 is perfect.
>>721757381come back in act trippple
>>721757275You didn't actually make a single criticism. Yiu said "i found this boring", which was counted by "I didn't". You're the one confusing criticism with impotent venting on /v/.
I am a shitterLast Judge is easier with Magma BellI’ll beat him today
>>721757013You should've beaten it without cheats so you wouldn't have given >>721757136 the chance to stroke his own ego.>>721757275Pretty much. The game has flaws but soulsfaggots like said flaws not because they find (insert problem here) to not be a problem but exclusively because they filter here. Personally I expect actual discussion to be had once the next souls-like game to drop and they now have another fanbase to infest.
>>721757381Go back there in Act 3 and try stuff
>>721757381>Is there some kind of secret in there I’m missing?If you come back there later, you can get an upgrade for the boomerang.There's also a loli hiding in her ghilly suit in the room.lol made you read an extra spoiler get wrecked nerd
>>721757275>hmmmphhmmwhat's that? It's hard to understand you while you have that nigger cock in your mouth
>>721757051>This was easier than NKG and Pure VesselNobody crying about Silksong beat NKG let alone did anything in godhome... let alone got to P4.
>>721757291Yes, the thing above is the surface. Everything is underground otherwise. The bug sentience is a weird issue, we don't really know, but all the bugs here do have silk in them inherited from their parents, so that might have something to do with it. Or the whole Pale King guves sentience was just propaganda.
Getting better. I need to stop instantly going for the new platforms because I've gotten punished for it multiple times.
>>721757138The fire whirl is the easiest shit to dodge.>>721757242No everything is a conspiracy anon. A lot of people just suck at games.
>>721757334I beat him by not getting hit
>>721757516I did, I said every bit of fun is completely ruined by tedium >Oh look a fun platforming part, woopsie gotta do a 10 minute runback if you dont finish it before you run out of health>Oh look a fun boss fight, woopsie gotta do a 10 minute runback every attempt>Want to do Wishes or exploration, woopsie gotta do a 10 minute backtrack from a Bellway to get where you want to beTedium, upon tedium, upon tedium, upon tedium. If 50% of my entire playthrough time I have spent running back towards places I actually wanted to be in, the game is shit. Period
>>721757275It's mind boggling to me just how bad people are at the gameThe problem with silksong is that while there IS room for criticism on certain topics, the vast majority of people who complain about those issues are fucking retarded. You ask them to post gameplay and they'll post the absolute most dogshit playing with the worst possible build going up against a moderately difficult boss where they make no attempt at all to learn the moveset or evade damage. You ask them to point to a "runback" they think is bad and they'll say the conchfucker fight where you have to start from the bench all the way at the right side of karak or they won't mention the hidden bench in bilewater. There are people who missed the shortcut in coral tower, for fuck's sake. There are people who deliberately walk around the game and go into boss fights with 2k fucking beads and then get mad at the game when they lose it all, then say the economy is bad. They dont bother using silk eaters or turning beads into strings, they just risk 100% of their rosaries and claim it's bad design when they die.You notice this after engaging with them for a while. I can't take any criticism for the game seriously because 90% of the critics are literally just dogshit at the game. I clicked on a video to about the "5 heckin worst runbacks in silksong" and this dumbass said the wisp thicket to father of flame was the 3rd worst runback in the game. Nigger, it's literally a long flat corridor with 2 enemies you can jump over. He made no mention of runbacks to arenas, like the first hunter's march arena with shakra, or the far fields lava escape, which are genuinely difficult, though. Speaking of arenas, one anon did the high halls gauntlet without sitting on the bench in high halls one room over, meaning he ran all the way from songclave. These are the people who criticize the game. Absolute troglodytes.So yeah. You got filtered. Uninstall and shut the fuck up.
>>721757838>I did, I said every bit of fun is completely ruined by tediumTedious means boring. You found it boring, i didn't. This is entirely a (You) issue.
>>721757334Find the wreath
>>721757814I had to use the witch crest for this.
>>721757838The longest runback is like 50 seconds in Bilewater. Bilewater filtered you, didn't it?
>>721757334>the best attack window is when he does a forward smash that sends up 2 muckballs>don't get caught in the corner or he will buttslam you twice in a row>you can jump and pogo off him when he does the buttslam>in all honesty you're probably better off not bothering with healing and just using any silk you get for silk skills to damage him faster>believe in yourself
>>721757905Not a single person finds running through the same areas over and over and over again NOT boring. If you are pretending this is not the case, youre being a dishonest faggot
>>721757334I just went ham on him and he died fairly fast. When he smacks the ground to shoot out maggots, they go up pretty high so just stand a bit away from him and they'll just fly over you. Had more trouble reacting to him suddenly deciding to use his fat ass desu
>>721757851Not reading all that. Game still has issues though
>>721757987For the pogo part I mean.
>>721757334>their>themthere's only one boss in that fight though?
>>721753560Lace is a puppet, it can't be related to anything
>>721758026Nigger shut the fuck up with your dumb meaningless buzzwords, nothing filtered me, the game wasnt even hard, just boring.
Have I got anywhere else to go or am I good to turn in the three choruses? Does doing that cut off any questlines or anything or is Act 2 still ongoing from there?
This thread really isn't comfy.
>>721758052No retard, welcome to the fucking genre, the whole point is exploring old places with new shit.
>>721757537Damn I struggled so much with that bitch, I never thought of using that. Nice.Anyways does anyone have that pic with the cat that looks incredibly disappointed? kinda like picrel
>>721758059HORNET NO! SHE'S MAYBE KIND OF SORT OF RELATED TO YOU AND HAS THE MIND OF A CHILD! THATS ILLEGAL!
>>721757381Yes there is, but not until act 3.
>>721758140this is the spike platforming part of the thread be careful use your cloak
>>721758157Why do people think Hornet would be turned off by the idea of fucking a adult woman with the mind of a child? Hornet already kills bug children on the regular in this game with no remorse. Why would she feel bad about fucking a womanchild?
>>721757838I'm guessing you won't actually bother providing explicit examples of places you have to do 10 minute runbacks? >Complaining about mount fay coldLiterally how, you have a heat source every 2 meters. I don't even think it's possible to die from cold because you need to be constantly on the move.
>>721753957Same species as the hunter in the putrified ducts. Probably has to choose what role they're doingSubservient provider, fuck machine, or Other. I figure he saw Hornet and decided giving her goodies would go over better
>Respawn in the room you died in mod>Fast travel to every bench modGet this if you hate the runbacks/backtracking, it made my enjoyment of the game go from a 6/10 to a 9/10. And no I sincerely do not give a shit about anybody hating me for it.
>>721758138You are missing like at least 4 areas
>>721758138You're good. There is another turn back point once you go up the elevator. Beating the boss at the top of the citadel the normal way doesn't lock you out of anything, as it kicks you back to the last bench. The only thing that can get locked out at this point is the cursed ending (if you've already cured the curse). Garmond duel opportunity is gone if you haven't had the chance to do it yet.
>Act 3 coral tower is just a bunch of arena slopThis is your 10/10 /v/....
>>721758260Nobody cares about your mental illness.
>>721758296but what's the deal with the masks above himdoesn't changing mask basically make you a different person
>>721758068Why?Isn't the wanderer the simplest pogo / the reaper the largest (timing could be an issue I guess?)Pogo was easy compared to the other two. Fuck the rng of it all, sometimes 10 fleas pass by way overhead and you don't have to move, sometimes they're all homed in on the standing areas.
https://youtu.be/A8DxjnNEosQEscaping the Abyss was pure kino.
>>721758390close quarters combat is good for the sovl
>>721758339That's too much for me personally. I think the game would be much better if your coocoon spawned outside of boss rooms specifically so you'd be encouraged to come back later and get stronger>muh silkeatersDo you really think a struggling player is going to have enough silkeaters
>>721758260I care about this.
>>721758341>>721758356>the curse>GarmondI don't know what either of things things are so I guess I'm still missing quite a bitCheers
Commish
>>721758483THEY WASTED THE MOST SOULFUL AREA IN THE GAME ON ARENA SLOP MOTHERFUCKER
>>721758514Why is this tranny replying to himself?
>>721758583bilewater is unironically 10x more sovlfvl
>Found Green Prince's area randomly>Find out you can keep his heart>Sacrifice it on purpose so I don't have anything reminindng me of him in my bellhouse>Realize Hornet took his heart into herAh well, Hornet has aids now.
>>721758339mods are for weaklings>>721758431Hunter and Shaman's downward diagonal attack is extremely satisfying to use and kind of safer for avoid attacks.I feel nothing when I platform/pogo with the generic knight esque downward. I feel a rush when I pogo with Hunter and Shaman's crest.
>>721758390It was actually the better part of the act3 for me. It was throwing new enemies and unique bullshit encounters. The boss after that is just sad.
>>721758260moralfaggotry
>>721758260>shippercuck delusionsYou faggots don't even understand any of these characters.>5 years agoMakes sense.
>>721758682>mods are for weaklingsI sincerely cannot have more disdain for faggots like you who pretend that going through the suffering the developers set out for you somehow gives you any sort of claim to have "strength" when the same type of you faggots get anxiety and hide behind the couch when somebody rings your doorbell.
Spooky
>>721758682>ShamanUsed this for juggling as the energy blade lingers a bit so I didn't have to be precise with my timing.
>>721758053Please respect the gross disgusting maggot thing's pronouns anon
>>721758260>Why do people think Hornet would be turned off by the idea of fucking a adult womanBecause maybe she isn't gay? The "woman" in question is also a different species, being a sentient ball of silk who probably doesn't even have genitals to have sex.
>>721758408More like gives you a hyper focus. He was literally deciding who he wanted to be before meeting Hornet. If he chose another mask he probably would have descended as a boss fight and got walloped. He chose properly
>>721758140Welcome to the weekend, for better or worse.
>>721758059Are you really that hungry for validation?
>>721758851Yes going through the suffering does make me stronger. The runbacks exist for a reason. They add stakes to a fight where you have infinite lives.
>>721758260because Lace has a mid design
>>721750230silksong beat nortubel
>>721758851I mean, you either succeeded the challenge, or failed.
>>721758339>Respawn in the room you diedIf there's no consequences for dying there's also no tension, and if you can just stay in the same room brute forcing a hard section until you win, might as well install an invincibility mod to make it even less boring.
>>721758857I only found out in act 3 that you get the 3rd silk heart in that area.
>>721758981that makes me wonder why they added a cap on tools but also added on a currency item that also has a caplike there's not enough stakes?
>>721759172Team Cherry knows how broken some of the tools are so they want to make you work for them.
>>721753567whos the vessel on the right?
>>721758140WeekendTourists ruin everything.
>>721759238i feel like having a cap in the first place to limit them should have already been enough
>>721758748>better part of the act3 for meShit i think i need a new game to play if that's the good part
>>721759063Same, the silk spool too which I found on accident.
>>721759284Lost Kin.
>>721759284broken vessel, the one that guards the monarch wings
Hornet isn't gay, all that themeing about having to fight her destiny to become queen and having 3 moms that each tell her the world will force her to do as they please, as well as being violated and impregnated by a monster with a penis for a head is actually just hentai, don't overthink the things you play or else youll end up being one of those wokies
What's the deal with the vitiligo ants. Two are cool dudes, you can even needolin the one and he says some stuff about his markings not being a curse so they're clearly outcast. One is total dickhead so it's not like they're a small unit either.
>>721758140The increase in shippingcuckoldry (the same 3 people spamming their folder here) is bringing the quality of this thread down since they don't talk about anything tangentially related to the game.
>>721759565yeah I am sure arguing about an image dump that you don't like on the imageboard for 500 posts will save the thread
>>721758673>Green Prince exists presumably so shitters can skip one of the harder heart fights >Skipping just takes you to Lost Lace which is 10x harder than the heart fightsBased shitposting australians
>>721757291>I thought bugs lost sentience when they were away from certain locations because of lack of soul.Cornifer and his wife very clearly were sentient before arriving at Hallownest and they crossed the wastelands and they don't wear masks, some bugs(or entire races) are simply born sentient(see: Fluke Hermit who can somehow speak despite it's entire family being feral bugs.)
>>721758851>I don't give a shit if people don't like that I cheated!>Clearly gives a shitLol get fucked you cheating loser.
>>721759172The tool usage cap is obviously to limit how much damage you can dish out on a boss in 1 encounter. But the whole shard economy is a bit weird. You are either always at shard cap, wasting any drops you find, if you don't really relay on tools, or always begging for shards if you do relay on them. I wonder what would have been a better way to do this. Maybe use rosaries for both money and tools, and add like a 10% extra rosaries drop rate? That way rosaries never lose function once you've bought everything, and you'd have to switch to a different tool for the next try on the boss (because you respawn without rosaries), or would have to grind a bit around if you want to use them same tools on the same run.But this would be a bit tedious, as you'd need to navigate a menu each time you die, instead of just running back to the boss. Idk.
>>721759504Ants dont really "see", they smell chemicals on each other to identify if theyre part of the same 'kingdom'If an ant is miscolored due to chemical changes, they are outright killed, so outcast, miscolored ants are probably similar
I’m nearing the end, anons. I just did the Nameless climb. I think I’ve got a total of 4 bosses left: CKK, Karm, Watcher and LL. I know I’ll have other odd jobs to clean up after but it feels like I’m polishing off most of the consequential stuff.Coral Tower is not as fun as the Colosseum of Fools.
>>721759621You pave the way in and they feel like they're at home. If threads devolve into shippingfaggotry, that means it's over and it's time to pack it up.
just beat phantom, fun fighthow good is the parry skill?
>>721759351What's good part then? Walking from one corner of the map to another?
>>721759565>>721758140It has been 22 days since launch. Most of the zest has left the conversation. All there is now are autists arguing over minor details (is phantom boy, does hornet have a mask or is it her face) and posting as close to porn as you can get involving Lace.
>>721758339>Get this if you hate the runbacks/backtrackingjust stop playing instead, you are pretty much playing a different game
>>721759801Like every other skill, it's good for some bosses, useless for others.
>>721759801Free get-out-of-jail button for many bosses. The damage isn't the best but the i-frames are.
>>721759756Actually, they can see, they just relay on the smell more. They did an experiment where they put hats on ants and cut of their smell thingies, so the ants were forced to use the hats as identification mechanisms. The experiment was to find out whether ants can hold grudges against specific outsiders, and the answer was yes they do.
>>721753294How did you need a guide for Mr. Mushroom. It’s such a basic trivia challenge. Yes, I will admit I checked all around Whiteward before remembering Yarnaby existed but honestly it was very straightforward. Read the description, go>oh I think I know where that isExplore for 30 seconds until you find out-of-place mushrooms. The final climb is the only challenging part and a guide does not help with that.
>>721759881Phantom is referred to as a Sister but is only ever said to be a They or ThemThats pretty much the jist of it
>>721759801it looks really cool with the lightning thing equipped
>>721759496>all that themeing about having to fight her destiny to become queenNothing to do with being gay.>and having 3 momsOne of her moms had to tie herself up to prevent her from giving birth from fucking so much. Very straight.>that each tell her the world will force her to do as they pleaseIn the sense of meeting expectation as a royal and weaver. If your father is a doctor and you don't want to also be a doctor, and rebel, this is not a metaphor for being gay or anything. More about duty vs freedom of choice.>as well as being violated and impregnated by a monster with a penis for a headWhich is about rape and trauma from rape, not about being a lesbian. I'm not even against Hornet being a lesbian, but there's nothing in the game indicating she is.
>>721758851i don't have anything against mods or people who use them might use some myself if late game filters mebut you need to accept mods are for weaklings
>>721759771People either love or hate the coral tower. I think it's based on the approach, people that have crowd controlly spell builds have a lot of fun in the coral tower.
>>721759737You've got it a bit backwards. Shards are something you can build up from weak enemies and can't be lost on death. If you're dying a lot and needing to go through the same areas over and over, you'll have ample tools to punch through what has you stuck. If you're unloading on everything and bursting them down, you'll be naturally forced to slow down. If bosses/arenas had shard drops I think a lot of the attrition problems go away, but it's smoother than people give it credit for (especially if you buy shard packs like you're supposed to, same as how Sekiro gets easier if you actually buy spirit emblems)
>>721759801breddy gud, even punishes projectiles, makes you invincible during the animation, will if necessary teleport across the screen to fuck up whatever did the attack you parried and damages other enemies if they are close enough.The parry window is not too big though.
does anyone here actually use scuttlebrace
>>721759323With infinite shards you have no reason to ever use your nail when your tools outdamage it and having 2 red slots is enough to kill most of the bosses in the game without ever attacking them.
>>721760148I've had it equipped for several hours
>>721760194other way around, no shards but tools keep the caps they have that reset on rest.
today i drew horny
>>721760063It’s not BAD, I just don’t like it as much as Colosseum. I think the coral is a less legible and interesting arena trap than the spikes and platforms that spawn and despawn, and all it does is hazard-frame. You don’t get things like resizing the arena to make an encounter more challenging, or the “dodge the deepnest invincible worms” challenge. They at least had the nuts to do one single don’t-touch-the-ground but then they spawn an enemy that destroys the floor spikes as it charges. And they constantly give you soul-balloon enemies. PLUS you get a rest between major sections.The gauntlet idea is cool, Fool was just way cooler. Coral Tower is the same idea, just not done as well.
>>721760145>will if necessary teleport across the screen to fuck up whatever did the attack you parriedEverytime a boss used a dash attack and I tried parrying it Hornet just slashes at empty space while the boss left her reach before the attack even started.
>>721760148I tried, it's just more confusing to use than just dashing the other way, the smaller hitbox can evade certain attacks but I haven't tested it thoroughly.
>>721759982>How did you need a guide for Mr. MushroomIt's simple anon, I didn't even read any hints because I just wanted to finish the game at this point so I just watched a vid to look at the locations.
Ok, I just finished it and I have several questions. What did the Weavers/First Sinner do that made the grandmama so angry? We see they were meddling with the Void stuff later on. Was that it?Why did Hornet go to such great lengths to save Lace when she did nothing but be a bratty cunt to her?Why is Silk a god? In the past games concepts like light and nature were gods. And I get that they tried to add a layer of control and manipulation to it, but it still seemed silly to me. This would be like the concept of Slime being a god for the snail race. Is Polyester a god in this world?
>>721757951Uuuh not sure what that is but thanks I'll search later>>721758041Thanks I'll try to remember. He buttslams me in the corner... sometimes the muck bounces off the wall and there's a tiny space that's safe to bind in. But then I get assvored.I have the silk dash skill, that's a good trick to not get hit and it does nice damage.
Zanzibug... forgive me
>>721760494hello garmond
>>721758053Thanks for this too I'll try spacing further apart while avoiding getting trapped
>>721760337I dunno, maybe it depends, saw her teleporting to flying enemies alot, maybe the problem is that that many bosses move much more than most flyers that just keep their distance at their preferred angle between attacks.
>>721750230How do I get the Craw Summons? Seems like the wiki pages are just filled with misinfo/guesses.
>>721760431>What did the Weavers/First Sinner do that made the grandmama so angry?Just think of Grandma as a hyper controlling literal grandmother. She wants her family literally right there, nearby. She wants to provide for them, so she set up the whole citadel to give them the world. When they found out they were not actually divine, just upraised bugs, they put her to sleep and escaped to make their own ways in life. When she woke gamgam wanted her children back under her control because she views them as property she loves. That's why they're being hunted, even tortured when caught to ensure they never leave her again.
>>721760474Hints about the wreathit stops the maggots from poisoning you, at least for a whileit’s found in an area with maggotsnot sinner’s roadnot bilewaterputrefied ducts
>>721760494All these threads and I never see anyone crying about poor Zaza laying down next to his dead friend.
>>721760431Its very heavily stated that Hornet has become a better person through fulfilling everyones wishes, she saves Lace because Lace saved her, several times even at the very beginning of the game (shes the one that frees hornet).Her wisps also guide Hornet throughout the game, especially in the Mist
>>721760653For me I sat down at the bench in bellhart in act 3 and it slammed down in front of me.
do you get enough memory lockets throughout the game to unlock all sockets on all crests
>>721760653>>721760796ditto
>>721760289That's what I'm saying, with all the usages 2 red tool slots provides you have enough damage to kill bosses without your nail.The only way to balance that would be to decrease how many uses you get or to make the tools way weaker(and nobody would use them then).It's basically the equivalent of OP guns with scarce ammo in FPS games, which you end up using in tricky situations but are not what you use to kill most enemies.The only issues shards have is running out of them after dying a lot to a boss, the easy fix is simply making your cocoon drop enough shards to refill the tools you used in your last life.
>>721760719Because he was hardly a character, I didn't even know who the name was for the wish to fight him until I saw his bug and thought "Oh it's that guy" then I beat him and didn't really care.
>>721760653Get silk soar and start with the heart hunting, then rest at a bench in an area that connects to Greymoor. I got mine at the bench right next to Karmilita. Anything beyond that is speculation so far until they datamine it.
>>721760431>What did the Weavers/First Sinner do that made the grandmama so angry?They wanted to seal her. Why? They found out she lied about them being her children and higher beings, they were just uplifted by her. Basically threw a hissy fit over being adopted.>Why did Hornet go to such great lengths to save Lace when she did nothing but be a bratty cunt to her?It's less about Lace, and more about Hornet. She wanted to save a kingdom instead of just watching another one fall to ruin, especially after starting to care about the people there. She also accepted responsibility over what happened, since she's the one that asked the snails for an alternative, and went through with it.>Why is Silk a god? In the past games concepts like light and nature were godsNo, the Pale King, Radiance, The Pale Lady are also just gods like Silk. They are called Pale Beings. Silk is just her name, not the concept.
>>721760836yea, I think you need to for Eva in fact
>>721760653Not sure, I randomly got it in Far Fields when I sat on a bench.
>>721760653for me I had to complete the crows in the hunter's notes and then restnot sure if this is it, but I it doesn't hurt to try
>>721760664>When she woke gamgam wanted her children back under her control because she views them as property she loves. That's why they're being hunted, even tortured when caught to ensure they never leave her again.I think those are just the conductors looking for ways to get more silk, no? GMS isn't actually awake yet during the whole haunting, it's just subconscious.
>>721760853How much fucking about did you do? For me Garmond helped with Savage Beastfly, was incidentally in several areas, and showed up repeatedly in the Citadel.
>>721760653Nobody knows for sure, try>sitting on the bellhart bench>talking with Pavo>sit on your house's bed>run to greymoor>run back>check both benches>talk with pavo again>sit on one of them>save and quit, check on them again
>>721756289https://litter.catbox.moe/o2elcm.mp4
are there any other games that do the "entire world goes to shit and normal enemies get replaced with stronger variants after killing the 'final' boss" trope?it's kino but ive only seen this game and Dragon's Dogma do it desu
>>721761029nta but I only had him show up in the Choral Chambers once and for his Duel (I ducked the first Moorwing cause of the fleas)
>>721760653I think what trips up most people is the delay between resting and the summons showing up. You can see it here >>721760839. So if you bench and then immediately dash away, you might miss it. If it's late into act 3 and you don't think you've gotten it yet, it might be a good idea to just take a look at random benches in areas in and around Greymoor and see if you missed it.
>>721761163ff6 I guess? it's more like a different map
>>721761074>this is what filters most players
>>721761029>Garmond helped with Savage BeastflyHe didn't for me, didn't know he could and I'd see him from time to time killing mobs in areas but again each time I'd see him I just though "Oh it's him again" and move on.
>>721760741>Her wisps also guide Hornet throughout the game, especially in the Mistthose are just souls of dead bugs
>>721760653 OP here, I got it after going to the bilewater bellway and exiting/entering/sitting. I grinded out the four craw hunter entries but I believe others didn't need them. Thanks for the suggestions kek
>>721759412>>721759404why is he bigger like hornet, what's special about him? i don't remember much of hk lore
>>721760853Maybe you missed out alot of his interactions, he helped me with Moorwing, with the chapel, had a duel with me, helped with the high choir, then proceeded to woop ass in the chapel till I moved on to Act 3 and showed up helping out with void creatures before that quest popped.But anyway, I'm not sad for the old man but that his horse/dog bug laid down next to him without making noises probably not getting he is dead or still coping.
>>721761023>GMS isn't actually awake yet during the whole haunting, it's just subconscious.GMS is very much active. She had to be to make a fresh creation like Lace. We hear her dialogue when creating her when we get Laces silk heart. After the betrayal she would be happier with a child spun mad and fragile than those that betrayed her. You're right that the chorus is very much still an active machine during the unknown length of time she's asleep and they're the ones that probably expanded the eternal slavery angle given the focus on rosary beads and eternal life instead of servitude to the higher powers. But we do see Widows memory of her witnessing an awakened (or awakening) GMS in the Cradle before she goes off to Bellhart.
>>721760908I can confirm you do not need to do this to bind Eva, as I did it before finding all of the lockets. I’m pretty sure there ARE enough though.
>the grey mourner's lover was also a girl>no one cares>the prince faggots are gay>suddenly it's a problemshitty TOURISTS in my theads
>>721761163OFF for each individual zone.
>>721761201Nope, it's weirder than that, there are 3 methods that have the summons spawn>black screen and craw noises, then the black screen goes away and it's already there>sometimes you go back to an area and it's already on the bench>sometimes it drops right in front of you
>>721761074>first sinner before groalwhy did you do that to yourself
>>721761291Nah theyre her wisps, theyre the same bug
>>721761384Why is that a problem?https://litter.catbox.moe/qnstu9.mp4
>>721761029>For me Garmond helped with Savage BeastflyWHAT?????
>>721761363>blacksmith is gay>you kill him for no reason>green prince is gay>you kill him for no reasonwhat did they mean by this?
>>721758857Indeed.
>>721761363It's been 8 years since the release of hollow knight. The Internet has become even more brain damaged since then There is no peace here. Everything must be taken as an act of aggression
did he kick your ass, /v/? be honest
>>721761386I'm pretty sure there's a lore relic that says those are souls of death bugs, which they then also put into lamps/
>>721758498I do find it really strange that they went backwards on corpse runs. Your shade would spawn outside the arena in hollow knight (except in rare cases). Even if it did spawn in the arena, you have the fireball to hit it and lure it over. So why change it and make the cocoon spawn deep into the arena every time? That only encourages bashing your head against a challenge until you get it right.
>>721761384Why would you not want to do First Sinner as soon as you get clawline? One of the best bosses in the game.
>>721761303>We hear her dialogue when creating her when we get Laces silk heartI was under the impression, this was less of a dialogue, and more subconscious wishful thinking, which is then being manifested..
>>721761445I confused the names, it was Moorwing
>>721761439it's not, more power to you hunterchad
>>721761537The cocoon spawns where you die though, and for a lot of bosses you can just grab it and run away.
>>721761516No, because I moved the fleas before I knew he existed, so I got him in his second spawn area where I could just kite him up to an alcove and wail on him for free.
>>721761302I definitely did then as I never had him show up for any boss (I did Moorwing later because I travelled with the fleas) and didn't have any duel with him, I saw him a few times in the Citadel fighting bugs and once in the safe area shrine.
>>721760853This.>meet him chilling in Graymoor after I arrive from a direction where apparently Moorwing doesn't spawn>randomly meet him a few times fighting random enemies where he just has the same generic dialogue where he is trying to help Pharloom and Hornet tells him it's dangerous>fight him once>now he is chilling near first chapel>next time I meet him is in act 3 when he's possessed and I'm supposed to careIt's cool how wildly different people's experiences can be with this game.
>>721761516I moved him accidentaly after 2 tries, the rematch was first try, though I guess that's nothing to be proud of.
>>721752886there's 3 choir guys to the right of the bench right under the high halls entrance (the first one, not the shortcut you unlock), they can be thread stormed to death, if you're lucky they'll go down in one with volt filament before they get voided
>>721761591was gonna say longclaw first but I don't think Groal is even necessary to get there
>>721761537tbf, you can use your cocoon as a silk battery, so you just fight the boss, and if you need emergency heal, you break your cocoon for the silk.
>>721761363>girl on girlnice>guy on gayew gayIt's not hard anonPlus it will obviously get hate in the current cultural climate and rightly so.
>>721761516>he didn't do moorwing (hard mode)Do I even have to say it?
Jesus the game doesn't give you the slightest hint that there even is an act 3. Even if you think you're done with the game and want to collect everything after GMS you'll still need to look up a map for all the fleas in bullshit locations unless you just so happen to get sucked by this one specific ceiling thing in the ducts and finish the maze after it to get Vog.
>>721761771I don't think I even used longclaw against her, it was just constant clawline and parry spam.
>>721756375it's crazy how many bosses and enemies were clearly designed with a pogo counter in mind, and yet you'll still take less damage than if you tried to hit them normally
>>721760853Personally I didn't even care because Fromsoft's already done Siegmeyer like 5 times by now and at the third one I just stopped feeling anything for these characters.
>>721761856Now I'm wondering what the minimum number of bosses is to get to act 3. Imagine Phantom or Lost Judge voided.
>>721761516Yes at first, but we persevered and were able to overcome the foul beast.
>>721761863I actually really like the fact you can miss entire fucking acts and zones behind secret walls and areas. If it wasn't the age of the internet where everything gets datamined and discussed within the first week, this is the type of shit you'd find on replays and go "whoaaaaaa".
>>721761516No. I found him after I already had double jump. Savage beastfly 2 kicked my ass though.
>HORNET THOUGHT SHE HAD IT ALL FIGURED OUT>"I'm a warrior-princess. As in, warrior and princess. Kind of a big deal, y'know.">SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS THE TOP BUG>"Yo, my fight with the Knight is going viral. #Ownage">BUT NOW-->"Oh my God, I'm being KIDNAPPED!?">[record scratch]>SHE'S "PHAR" FROM HOME>"That's like- really cliche, this is the 21st century.">[Shakira music starts playing]>NOW SHE'LL NEED HELP FROM SOME NEW FRIENDS>Shakra: "I sell maps.">Hornet: "Lame.">Shakra: "And I can chop heads off with these rings.">[beat]>Hornet: "Less lame, keep talking.">WHO'LL SHOW THAT EVEN THE SMALLEST BUG>Sherma: "Oh my gosh I'm so nervous">Hornet: [halfhearted encouragement] "It's fine, just- do it">Sherma: "ROCK AND ROLL">CAN MAKE SOME NOISE>[Sherma starts producing dubstep with his bell]>IT'S THE BADDEST BUG>Hornet: "I'm taking names and hugging fleas- and I'm all outta fleas">AGAINST THE MOST SINISTER SILK>Lace: "I'm gonna KILL her, and drain all the silk from her body-- IT'S NAAWWWT A PHASE, MOM!">Grand Mother Silk: "Bye sweetie, have fun with your evil plan!">Lace: "UGH-">From Illumination:>HOLLOW KNIGHT: SILKSONG>Hornet: "#HornetSweep, nerds">Garmond starts rapping faster than Eminem
>>721761384You get jack shit for beating him. Why does it matter?
>>721762013It did take a while for people to figure out the actual requirements to enter act 3. People determined the outline of what you have to do, but I've only seen concrete data this week on what quests are required.
>>721761516yes (pre-nerf). The first phase was so easy, but the double throwing blades in phase 2 kept fucking me up, especially since he used to attack from super far offscreen so you'd run away to heal and then be interrupted by a blade you couldn't see coming and then take two damage as well as not healing.
>>721761983Minimum bosses would definitely be the wisp thicket into act 2 route.
>>721761863the hints are>the story just kind of ends>usually there's three acts to things
can someone please explain to me wtf was the green prince's whole deal? like why did he just crash out on us? I don't want his heart in my house that shit's nasty lmao
>>721762013>If it wasn't the age of the internet where everything gets datamined and discussed within the first weekThis game might have lasted me the whole year, and I probably would have still missed act 3. The biggest thing back then is that you couldn't confirm what isn't there. So who says there isn't an act 4 without dataminers to confirm it? Cue people spending months exploring and a bunch of "Mew behind the truck" rumors.
>>721756289Here's your gayplay
>>721761983Neither of those can be voided unfortunately, unless you can skip the flea guys setting up in front of the citadel it's unskippable>>721762013We still don't know where pilby goes after pilgrim's rest
>>721762087i want to die
>>721762087That’s anon, it’s awful.
>>721762101isn't one of the act 3 items behind him
>>721762002ZANZIBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART
>>721762210>that dice triggerlel
>>721762119I didn't look up anything and got to act 3, I just loaded up my save to do other stuff after finishing and started the quest in Songclave, I just presumed it was the natural progression rather than a secret with prerequisites to start.
>>721762087My mind read it all in this voicehttps://youtu.be/hqLUbmpuVw4?si=CRr6KZO8QAnnRIDd
>>721761983Lost Judge is mandatory since you have to move the fleas. Phantom is not.I think the full list of MANDATORY bosses to reach Act 3 is>Mossmother>Lace 1>Lost Judge>Trobbio>Lace 2>Groal>GMSThough you may not be able to complete a sufficient number of quest points without taking on at least some optional bosses, and that’s using two unintended skips to bypass Fourth Chorus and Sister Splinter so it’s unlikely they’re programmed to have voided versions.
>>721762382Exactly what I was going for.
>>721762385Need to do Widow and the Dancers too
What is the best crest for each flea challenge? Seth just showed up and BTFO all my scores.
Tormented Trobbio is bullshit jesus christ all this shit on my screen
>>721762180>usually there's three acts to thingsI can't find it anymore but I remember someone saying that modern popular plays like Hamilton only have 2 acts and gave a bunch of examples, while a lot of older plays like Romeo & Juliet have 5 acts. So seeing act 2 and assuming there's a final 3rd isn't a given.
>>721762385>>Lace 1i don't think it is
>>721762385You can skip Lace 1 with a key (wormways or deepdocks).
>>721762474Yes thank you, I forgot about those two as well. And MAYBE Bell Beast is mandatory too? I have a hard time remembering all the bosses, there are so many.
>>721762504He's a paper tiger. Visually overwhelming, but his patterns are easy and usually you can stay close while unharmed. Looks way more dangerous than he actually is which is very fitting.
>>721762087So which one is Awkwafina playing
>>721762682She's doing the needolin songs
>>721762682Whichever one is your favourite
>>721762504Just be glad he doesn't shoot up one of the encampments
>>721762087Irony and it's consequences have been a disaster for the millennial race
>>721762158does the act one double jump wisp thicket run not break the game in any way?
>>721762504Is there any easter egg after you beat him? The first fight has him pretending to play dead as he goes off screen and back.
>>721762785>he spawns in rock bottom instead of the skull tyrant
>>721762385You can skip Lace 1, but you obviously also cannot fight a voided Lace 1 for reasons that should be readily apparent.
>thinks Pale King was a dumbass for messing with the void>tells the White Lady she's wrong to her faceGod DAMN Hornet is a Stacy
>>721762876It still triggers act 2 when you get to whiteward
>>721762876Nope, you still get the "act 2" cutscene the moment you step out of the Underworks, like the Exhaust Organ path.>>721762907If you go back and wait around a bit, he'll pop up from under the stage and look around for a bit, before seeing you and bailing.
>>721762516Ok so the updated list of mandatory minimum bosses to reach Act 3 is>Mossmother>Bell Beast>Widow>Last Judge>Cogwork Dancers>Trobbio>Lace 2>Groal>GMSIs that all of them?
>>721762196>like why did he just crash out on us? I don't want his heart in my house that shit's nasty lmaoHe was reliving the glory days of his home before they were all genocided after his lover burned himself alive in boiling iron to create a template for some door guards and then when finally able to mourn some half breeds barges into your brain, kills your cherished memories of your countrymen and traipses into the core of your mental stronghold. I would show her the door too.
>>721750661>Mutter "Fucking cancer" while he whoops my ass>Find out the story behind the characterWhoops, fuck that's grim
>>721763058how many wish bosses do you need to do?
>>721763058Last Judge can be replaced with Phantom
>you know what will make our game more fun and enjoyable? a gauntlet of infinite fucking enemies
>>721762210>That vacuumFuck it really is dark souls 2
>>721763131Just fucking kill them lmao
>>721763115Not to reach Act 3. Last Judge must be cleared for the Fleas to reach the Grand Gate entrance, otherwise they disappear after leaving Greymoor and don’t reappear.
>>721763115Technically you can get into Act 2 fighting neither. But you need to fight last judge to move the fleas
>>721763115oh durr I'm dumb nvm unless the fleas can skip through him
>>721763131How the fuck did you make it through the High Halls if this is filtering you?
>>721762348I'm getting at the bare minimum required to enter act 3. If you're a completionist, it's highly likely you'll discover the silk and soul quest on your own. However, what you have to do is a lot less than the original idea floating around of all the bulletin board quests.Required quests>the one that gets you the float>both beast shard donations>bird grinding in greymoor>both bellhart rosary donations>both songclave rosary donations>sherma's sidequest>the map girl's sidequest>the merchant searching quest in bellhart>the merchant brother searching quest in bellhartYou need to get 17 total quest points to unlock act 3. The two quests about the merchant and his brother in bellhart count for one point each. Practically every quest aside from the ones listed above give one point. Delivery quests from the merchant give half a point on their first completion. So of the 20 available quests that aren't deliveries which count for points, you have to complete 15 of them.
>>721763131It's not that bad lmao. Remember Trial of the Fool?
>>721763207Shakra
>>721763110You need 17 “points” IIRC where most quests award one point, I THINK there are enough quests to get by without doing any Grand Hunts/boss quests.
>>721757051>This was easier than NKG and Pure Vesseland how many people do you think beat those? You're like a person with 70iq bullying someone with 60iq.
>>721763131me when there's... ENEMIES ... in le VIDEO GAME
>>721763131Take the Reaper crest with multibinder and the fast heal tool (I forgot what it's called). Never run out of heals. Makes the whole gauntlet super easy. Then for the actual boss fight you can switch to whatever you like.
>>721762196I'm fine with the heart, I just wish it would stop beating when I just wanna chill and look at all my shit.Other question for my next run, when you use his heart for the ritual do you get whatever left over heart as memento instead?
>>721757291>Also, I thought bugs lost sentience when they were away from certain locations because of lack of soul. How the fuck are they migrating?some bugs evolve sentience on their own, without the presence of pale beings, it just takes longer.
>>721763173You can lock yourself out of Act 3? Neat
>>721763419that's my build already. first two gauntlets are easy the third one is pure sensory overload.
>>721763021>If you go back and wait around a bit, he'll pop up from under the stage and look around for a bit, before seeing you and bailing.kek damn I missed that.
>>721763131Architect crest and lifeblood overdose with tool spam. It's free inside dreams. Problem solved.
>>721763434Yeah. You have to specifically skip one of the quest hearts, turn it in, then go back and get the quest heart but you can have any of the four.
>>721763491just spam tools. there's an rock you can break to skip 3/4 gauntlets
>>721763065Hornet is so based.
>>721763434Yes but only if you get the extra one after the ritual. If you get all four before then it'll default to keep the prince's heart.
Take a seat, anon. You've earned it :)
Does the Spider String ever unlock anything or is it just to get dialogue off more aggressive enemies more easily?
>>721763229Makes sense then as I try to do everything before moving on.
>>721763772I tried using wherever it felt like there was an "audience" like the description says (Karmelita, the Forum, etc.) but nothing of significance ever happened.
>>721763772It opens the Weavenests, summons the bell beast quicker in bellways, and in act 3 you can use it to warp to the last bellway instantly.
>>721763453No. Once you beat Judge they’ll reappear at the gate. But until you do they vanish from the map after leaving Greymoor. And IIRC you can only tell them about the location of Fleatopia at Grand Gate, not at Greymoor, so you can’t skip Judge and reach Act 3.
>>721762087>I'M THE BADDEST MOTHERFUCKER ON THE PLANET>I AM HORNET PALEKING HERRAHDAUGHTER III: THE SHAWBLE>AND I AM TAKING DOWN THE MONEY PLANE>NOW GIVE ME MY ROSARIES
>>721750230Act 3 is such a fucking slog it has to be killed. Every time I think about trying save and quit mode I remember act 3 and nope.
So you think they intentionally made it so she doesn't say SHAW at all this game?
>>721763725Hornet needs to lose some weight.
>>721760701Fucking righteous. I didn't fully scrub PD but I hoped there was such an item in the game. Thank you, that should carry my bind loving ass.
So, the prince's heart. There's no way to turn off that annoying heartbeat in your home, I assume?
>>721751958Cloth is from a different backer.
>>721756282ant sexo
>on one maskit’s time to abuse screen transitions andhit ‘n run the enemy.
It's kinda neat mr mushroom subtly leads yo to find the last silk skill because no way I hell would've I had though a out going back to the cradle otherwise
>>721763517NTA but it bummed me out to learn you could achieve this effect with any crest, just NOT in dreams. Was still usefull for Nameless Town though, I did not want to fight wall worms for silk heals.
>>721756289
>>721764107If you look at it soberly, there really is not that much to do in Act 3 if you do everything in Act 2 you can, just bosses of places you can nearly warp too and a few places you can only reach with the superjump.The first time you likely just bumbled around much more then necessary, I for one had to do the whole witch crest arc in act 3 which was totally unnecessary and much worse in the harsher environment.
>>721760653>>721760839I got my summons randomly while trying to beat Karmelita.
>>721762196Suicide by honourable duel.
Why does Verdania of all things feel unfinishedI wish we got more of the current one since proper ancient ruins are weirdly underrepresented in this game, but then the actual level feels like they didn't really know what to do with it, and the throne area is tucked into a normal looking house that has no business containing an interior that big and just makes the "kingdom" seem like a shitty village
dafuk is this, can i delete it?
uuhhhh why is there a whole ass dungeon for mr mushroom?
>>721764809Yes, you can abort it
>>721764809Congrats anon.
Replaying Hollow Knight. This guy is hot.
>>721762087You leave Sherma out of this.
>>721764829its not just him its for the surface momentokeep going up
>>721764107I don't really get this opinion. Unless people are just getting aggressively filtered by every fight
>>721762087>[Sherma starts producing dubstep with his bell]How dare you sully him
>>721764895What are his friends up to in the wisp thicket?
>>721761294We don't know but it is bigger than the knight in the actual game
>>721762087Revolting
>>721762087It should start with>THIS SUMMER! HORNET'S GONNA FIND OUT! BEING A WEAVER! ISN'T ALL IT'S CRACKED UP TO BE
>>721764471Abyss, Lost Verdania and Northern Far Fields were all pretty cool areas to explore.
>>721764931>>721764471>>721764107Act 3 is only a slog until you learn the gimmick about void mass. Let me fill in anyone about to start it>about half of the rooms in the game overall have a void mass in them>while the void mass is present, ALL ENEMIES have void aids by default when you enter, giving them double health, extra attacks, and silk drain>if you kill the void mass, enemies in that room will be normal and merely have a chance to gain aids while fighting themI hated act 3 until I started purging the masses. I just wish that after beating Lost Lace the aids was completely gone.
>>721764809You either get used to him or regret getting rid of him
>>721765172>abyss?? the one in HK was better and had more in it
>>721765287How is there going to be anything after beating the emo loli when that's the end of the game, anon?
>>721765287Is there some proper completion percentage on that? I had a quest to purge 12 but I quickly realized it was not going to be “one per area” and that there were WAY more than 12. It’s hard to know for sure if you have them all because enemies do still get voided, it’s just less common. So it’s not like>see void enemy>welp let’s scour this room
>>721765412STEEL
>>721765427NTA but I had no patience and just looked at the silksong map website and completed the quest in 5 minutes
>>721765427nta, but I only just started act 3 and so far it's been pretty clear when there's a void tumor. Every enemy is already pre-voided. The non-tumor ones usually start out normal looking and then get all voidy when you start fighting them.
>>721765427no percentage but you can hear a sound effect similar to the shade in hk>>721765412literally just act 3 worldstate but no tendrils, no void enemies>Ballow: What will you do now miss?>Hornet: I will return to my own kingdom in time, but now that the threat from below has been dealt with, I have time to deal with loose ends.>[NPCs updated to comment on relief that the world is saved]Simple as that.
this shit is filtering me so hard
>>721765790stay on the ground
>>721762002>missed my chance to fight that boss along my hero Zanzibug because I traveled too early with the flea caravanBoss wasn't hard, but damn.
>>721765790Use shaman crest with longclaw and stay on the ground, if you jump attack the fleas go off screen and fall super fast, I only jumped attacked for the orange fleas and the fat woman.
>>721764987burning themselves presumably
>>7217657901. never jump2. dash a lot3. try different crests to feel out the one that works best for you, for me it was hunter even though I main reaper/wanderer4. aim your sword up5. try to be "outside" the flea so it bounces toward the middle
>>721764056>THE MONEY PLANEYou wanna bet on Lace fucking a horse? Money Plane.
>>721765723I want the DLC to let us pick up post-Lost-Lace>void masses gone>worker bugs let by Flick are clearing debris from paths that were blocked during Act 3’s holocaust, for some fun dialogue options>Bone Bottom reestablished as a settlement with new pilgrims>Shakra duel available again>Green Prince has reopened the path to the ruins of Verdania, which can be explored in present day despite the decaySet any and all DLC postgame content in this version of the world.
>>721765656So what even happened to those wingsmould-like enemies from the trailers? Did they just get scraped?
>>721765790oh boy just you wait anon
>>721766073>green princeNO. I want those faggots DEAD
>>721766209Whomever, then. Plus I guess Green Prince is dead? Pick a bug who would be interested in excavating an ancient ruin.
>Oh fuck a giga version of the dancers, this is gonna be so kino- wait why are they dead
>all new Act 3 bosses and enemies (including the void buffed old enemies that are everywhere) have bloated health>only damage upgrade left is locked behind flea minigamesI can feel the filter tightening around me. I just can't give a fuck about highscoring minigames like that
>>721764931The problem with act 3 is that the amount of stuff to do is inversely proportional to how much you did the rest of the game, so for people who did as much as they could in act 2, especially since it's gated behind wish progression, there's little to do besides meander around areas we've already been through.
>>721765914I'm a shitter that never got Shaman so I just used reaper instead
>>721766353They’re so much fun, anon. I loved them so much. Even if juggle takes some getting used to.
>>721766353USE YOUR TOOLS ANON
>>721765790Dodge is the only annoying one though
>>721753560so Lace is Hornet's aunt?
>>721765852Not really, just don't try to reach them high.>>721765914Shaman makes it easier to hit them, but after you get used to the timing you're better off running Wanderer for the chance to hit them when they fall near simultaneously.
Would people hate Act 3 less it he pale oil was hidden behind something else, and the mini games were just a memento?
>>721766324This is why I stopped upgrading the needle when I start a new playthrough.
>>721766840My issues with act 3 have nothing to do with the fleas, and in fact I enjoyed the minigames.
>Atla>Karn>Cindril>Murglin>AbsolomThe weavers had peak naming game
>>721766353>>721766324the duality of healthpool
do I get anything out of taking the parasite to Act 3
:(
>>721766974You can't get to act 3 while infected, do you mean the baby?
>>721766974I think it triggers the cursed ending automatically and doesn't give you the option to spring the trap, no?
>>721766861That's not even normal for that stage of the game, other bosses have plenty of healthI think what happened was just that they couldn't figure out how to add more to the fight without fucking up the flow somehow, so just decided to cut it off early and threw it in a hidden optional area instead of cutting the content entirelyLike honestly there's no other explanation for why the first dancer fight would be so much harder, they even go way faster
>>721766840One is hidden behind the Courier in Act 2 so not really.I don't hate it, people have conflicting answers, they either hate having to do so much in just a reharshed world if they did the bare minimum in Act 2 or having nothing to if they cleaned Act 2. Just kill the blobs and the difficulty isn't a bother, would be nice if there was a reward for getting rid of all of them though.
>>721766974There's something if you kill the Silk will infected apparently
>>721767223Yeah I got that ending already>>721767047>>721767065I don't know, beating Silk infected was hard enough and I didn't wanna do it a second time for no reason.
>>721767141This is one thing I don't get, a lot of people complain about there being a lot of busy work for act 3 and needing to back track to do a lot of quests, but I just did them as they came, and never felt like I needed to do any specific shit too much.
