why'd you add the same embed 4 times? are you retarded?

>>721752583
Mistake

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>>721752514
Linux sure has come a long way. I hope the Nips adopt it someday.

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>>721753431
Steam Deck is wildly popular in JP
As for playing nip games, I think you're fine just playing them through Proton. They're not the kinds of games that use kernel level anti-cheat.

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>Broken amd kernel driver for the second time this year
>Thinking of going Windows
>Try LTSC 11 with VM
>HOLLY SHIT it's bad
>I'd need 5-6 hacks to make it decent but still dunno how could I give it Win7 taskbar
I...guess I stay on Linux

>>721753948
What's going on? AMD's drivers are fantastic on Windows and I thought they were supposed to be even better on Linux. Nvidia's drivers on Windows are shit and probably worse on Linux.

Ubuntu just pushed some broken kernel update which broke my wifi, bluetooth and nvidia drivers
Managed to fix it somehow
Also nvidia drivers changed from proprietary to open kernel which fixed full screen issue in some visual novels and also surprisingly enough image upload in Firefox
Wayland is still laggy mess in Steam games
I love Linux, it is never boring with it

>>721753549
The biggest hurdles for nip VNs are usually translation patches and some of that shit, but they should work fine by now.
I'd wager a lot of the most basic ones probably use the python vn engine, so you could even launch them with your linux's python installation.

>>721754105
In general performance, they are. They just released 2 broken kernel module packages for some reason this year. Also 9070XT had some mesa issues and kernel module problems months ago but those are normal for fresh cards, and are fixed by now.

>>721754105
>were
Lately they've been utter shit, I had to install AMDVLK just to make most games even launch on my desktop since the RADV vulkan driver just didn't work at all.
If you don't know what that is, AMDVLK is the official open source amd vulkan driver while RADV is the unnoficial community driven vulkan driver, RADV used to be the best vulkan driver in any OS to ever exist, but lately it's been utter garbage with countless games quite literally making the driver just crash and resetting the GPU.

>Use Mint
>Just werks
I understand why giga autists don't like it, but it's the only distro i've had zero significnat problems with. I'm very happy with it and recommend to any anons that want to never have to use the terminal and do tinkering. Very nice and familiar looking too if you're coming from Windows. Also, not clicking that shit.

>>721754579
Interesting. I had a 9070XT but traded it out for a 5090 because I wanted 4K gaming performance. I'll switch over to UDNA next gen for their 4090/5090 competitor.
>>721754669
Well shit.

This has been the historical precedent for every time you've ever tried to get a family member to try Linux, they'll say:
>THIS IS VAGUELY UNFAMILIAR TO ME
>PLEASE PUT WINDOWS BACK ON IT
However, now you can say this:
>"Sorry, Windows 10 is no longer being supported and your hardware doesn't support Windows 11. This is your only option."
Now, granted, they'll probably go out and buy a $2000 Windows 11 laptop, but now they're forced to use Linux unless they're willing to put their money where their mouth is.

>>721754714
Not my dad. He'd go to the store and buy the cheapest piece of $300 shit laptop he could find then hassle me to set up office or something on it for him again.

>>721754706
>traded it out for a 5090
Even though in linux nvidia drivers have noticeably worse performance than on windows, a 5090 is most probably still the fastest gpu you can run on linux, and obviously on windows too, so it's not a bad deal.
Although next gen I can assure you there won't be an even remotely similar amd 6090 competitor, and most probably there won't be a new one ever again with how subpar sales have been for amd.

>>721754950
I dunno man, Nvidia's actual raster performance has been pretty stalled for a while when you compare how much you're getting for performance/watt or performance/$. All it takes is for them to keep underserving the gaming segment and AMD to stop being retarded (least likely variable here) and they could lose the gaming GPU market. Not that it's their cash cow anymore anyway.

Any 9070 XT chads here? I just upgraded from a 2080 ti and didn't expect any real gains, but my upgrade experience has actually been phenomenal and just werx on troonix. Then again, it may be due to my processor bottlenecking me as I had a 9600k before and now I'm on a 9800X3D lul

>>721754820
My dad bought a $2000 gaming-laptop because he was so fed up with how slow his old laptop was. It was an angry purchase. He does not play video games at all. He just threw money at the problem because he wanted to be 100% certain he'd be getting a "fast laptop."

>>721755429
I mean, there's no easier way of improving performance than putting faster vram and pumping a hell of a lot of power through the chip, I'd bet my whole arse that the whole raster improvements in the 5090 have been the 200W more power they're pumping through it.

>>721752514
Switched to Endeavour recently, working great. There is some tinkering involved, but it feels like my computer is actually a cool toy again, instead of something that gets in the way of me doing work.
I still dual boot and switch to win10 for most games because fuck downloading 2TB again, but anything I tried in linux just worked. I just mount the existing drive and launch my programs with some extra arguments. Even got a non-supported game from a random devanon working, took about an hour to learn about the runtimes and gpu drivers.


>>721754714
>go out and buy a $2000 Windows 11 laptop
You're either in fairly well of circles or overestimating how much people are willing to pay, especially when it seems their current hardware is still working fine. My working class parents balked at a $300 purchase when my sister entered high school, so I bought a not-shit machine. $2500 enterprise machine for $400 because french keyboard layout. You can save so much because no one can touch type.

>>721754950
Just curious why would you use Endeavour over something like Bazzite or CachyOS?

>>721752514
I really want to, Microsoft needs to eat a log of shit

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>>721753549
The thing is, my Nip capture card only works on windows and utilizes Adobe Flash. I've had it for about 7 years and I don't want to give it up. That's probably the only hold over from windows that I plan to keep around when I switch to daily driving linux.

>>721757371
no offense but that's a bad reason to accept getting anally raped by Microsoft. go grab a new capture card, they're cheap as fuck and the newer ones are better anyways.

>got a warning for this thread being offtopic
thanks jannies keep doing the good job and keeping the animethreads up you fucking turbofags I'm gonna keep playing faceit10 despite you and microsoft

I finally got HDR working, I thought it was a gimmick but it's actually really neat.
I wish my wayland compositor supported it.
Launching steam inside gamescope from a TTY yields some pretty massive perf gains since you can't really go any more minimal than that. It makes me want to build a PC for my living room instead of using steam remote play.

>>721757098
I think you're replying to someone else, but I personally use Arch with the cachyos repos on top, I've got my installation scripts from years ago I've been constantly updating.

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>>721757489
Do you know of any capture card that accepts 240p-1080p and also supports component, composite, VGA, and HDMI while also being linux compatible?

>>721754694
I'll start with mint and migrate to arch overtime, I really want to make a cool looking UI that's unintelligible to anyone else

>>721757098
I assume you mean me? >>721756930
Wanted Arch because that's what steamOS uses so I assume it will get the most gaming support in the future. Tried manjaro at first but it wouldn't do work stuff, friend recommended Endeavour. I'm sure there's a lot of good arguments for other distros but I'm not interested in shopping around when I've got shit that works. I gamedev, that already eats enough time.
I am a software developer though and used to working with debian based servers, a non-tech person might be better of with something that hides the CLI from you.

>>721757371
If you use a second ssd, dual booting is very doable. Just need to disable hibernation in windows and you can switch freely on boot. Or you use WSL2 on windows to run a Linux vm and get used to it.

>>721753549
is the steam deck that big or are nips that small

>>721757819
>I'll start with mint and migrate to arch overtime,
Why bother? Just for HDR? It will be coming to cinnamon in the future anyways, they're workin' on it.

>>721755624
9060 XT + 9700x3d on my machine, previously had >1050Ti
Free drivers are wonderful. Being able to use Wayland is also nice

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>>721758282
Nips are just small. Here's someone from the west holding a deck

>>721752514
I have +300 games on steam, another +100 on Lutris and well over 1000 ROMs from everything from Atria 2600 to the PS3.
Do you know have many games don't work? - 3... Yes THREE and those 3 require kernel level anticheat, so they'll never work.
Out of the remaining a small handful tkse a little twerking (less than 10).
The rest? Either work out of the box or I just have to select a version of Proton.

So, you shills can bait and shitpost all you want. But most of us know the deal.

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>>721759184
I have 1700 games on Steam.
I'm looking at my ProtonDB ratings, not bad. Almost all the "broken" ones are anti-cheat related.

I'm loving using linux, but i game on a windows vm with gpu passthrough, cpu pinning, and ram hugepages and it gives me the same fps as windows within a couple frames, and gives me better compatability with tools like rewasd and lossless scaling and hdr.
Linux is great for people who just wanna game as the games ship, but if you use a lot of specific tools for enhanced gaming and like to tinker with games and mod them, then Windows is still better for it.
Linux + a windows gaming vm is still miles ahead of just windows though despite the vm being a bit of work to set up for a beginner, and my 4090 gets higher fps in the vm when properly set up than with using proton in most games

>>721759371
I, unfortunately, have to play CoD since a lot of my bonehead friends do. I circumvent the conflict by having just bought a Series S on sale.

>>721759521
>i game on a windows vm with gpu passthrough, cpu pinning, and ram hugepage
Don't games like Fortnite or whatever just detect that and ban you anyways?

>>721759521
I don't really deal with tweaks anymore but modding and things like Minion for UI addons in MMOs (World of Warcraft/TESO) I still use. How is Linux for that?

I'm also curious how something like STALKER GAMMA's installer works on Linux. Not something I actually play but it's good example.

>>721759521
Nigga I just nodded Lies of P with infinite sharpness and Silksong with infinite health.
It took all of 15 minutes each and that includes building the mod .dlls and dropping them in the folders

>>721759782
Goddamn phone
MODDED

>>721759679
There are ways to hide that you're using a vm, and i know that people play such games in a vm. But i haven't even bothered looking into that since i don't care for competitive multiplayer games anyway.
I did have to add a line to my vm xml that exposes my real motherboard to the vm because rewasd wouldn't work otherwise, but that was easy and now rewasd thinks it's on a bare metal os

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>>721759679
Fortnite is literally the only thing keeping me on Windows now that i don't give a FUCK about Destiny.

Fuck you Tim.

>>721759936
Siege used to work fine on a VM till Ubishit or Battle Eye did something to break it on purpose.
I don't game through VMs so not sure what they did or if it can be gotten around

>>721759782
Yeah I'm not saying you can't mod at all, and such easy mods are obviously no problem. But some deeper modding requires special tools for it, and fixing hdr in many games also require special tools that are only on windows. Controller mapping is also barebones on Linux for many controllers like flydigi, and while steam is great at it for most people, rewasd still offers more. Again it's niche stuff for most and not something that would bother most people, but a dealbreaker for me when it comes to gaming on Linux. I also don't feel good about my nvidia gpu leaving a lot of frames on the table when gaming in linux for a lot of games

>>721760059
I'm convinced 100% of games would at least run through Proton without anti-cheat. So basically the thing that Windows should've never allowed in the first place is cucking us out of our games. Great.

>>721758876
>brown
>fat

lol

>>721760035
I hate timmy so much, how much did microcock pay him to be such a bitch ass slave to them? Pathetic. I used to think he was smart.

>>721753948
>>721754669
I've been using Ubuntu since 2018 first with an RX480 and now with a 6600xt, and I've never had a driver issue.

>>721760374
To be fair if you're on ubuntu you're probably still on drivers from 2018

>>721759696
>I don't really deal with tweaks anymore but modding and things like Minion for UI addons in MMOs (World of Warcraft/TESO) I still use. How is Linux for that?
pls respond, I'm thinking Linux gaming might be death from a thousand cuts.

>>721760620
if it ain't broke don't fix it

>>721760665
Sorry but i don't know since i don't play those and have no idea how they play on Linux

>>721758352
I heard mint is mostly free of pain in the ass stuff, and arch is more complex just for the fact it's more customizable. Mint will be on my main system while arch will be in my mini workstation I take to work so I can fuck around with it during lunch

>>721752514
>Year of the gaming Linux desktop?
When (You) switch

>Emulators
>ScummVM
All I need.

>>721762932
what is there to play after you've beaten all of the LucasArts games?

>>721763341
That's where the emulators come into it, I've got like 7 whole generations to work through.

>>721752514
>using Bazzite for benchmarks
>when it has a 3.2% Linux usage on Steam, compared to SteamOS 27%, Arch 10%, Mint and Ubuntu both 8%
I mean, I understand having an absolutely consistent system since Bazzite is immutable. BUT, it's not going to be representative of an average Linux user or an average Linux gamer. Fedora (the thing Bazzite is based on) is only the 3rd most popular base system, but the gap is pretty significant. Debian/Ubuntu systems are probably over half the Linux userbase, and Arch is the next 30%. Fedora is maybe what, 10%? I guess it does capture the middle ground between Arch getting feature/driver/library updates weekly and Debian/Ubuntu getting them only every 2 years.

>>721762656
All Linux distros are equally customizable. Arch is just a completely DIY distro. As in, it comes entirely barebones and you have to manually set it up.
The only significant difference between Mint and Arch that's set up with all the software that Mint has is the fact that Arch gets new features, drivers, etc. very quickly whereas Mint is always 2 years behind since it's based on Ubuntu LTS.

Is Debian a good distro for a public facing game server? More secure packages but slower updates to packages.
The server is also good spec wise so I'm also debating Gentoo to build from source and use the use flags to get the system how I want it exactly.

>>721764224
Debian is basically the standard for servers, yes. It's not that it's packages are inherently more secure, it's just that they're not getting feature updates and ABI changes. Which means that you usually don't have to recompile your server binaries against the updated dependencies. Basically, if Debian 13 ships with "package v1.2.0", it will stay on "package v1.2.x", while "package v1.3.x" will only be available on Debian 14. And this is a good thing for servers because you don't need to rewrite/rebuild any code if your server is using that package (avoids issues of newer packages having breaking changes).
But the real redpill is not caring about the base system and just using Podman, Docker or Distrobox and run your server in a reproducible container.

>>721752514
>Year of the gaming Linux desktop?
That was 2019 for me -- and every year since, of course, because I never got addicted to competitive online gaming and so there's just no reason to go back to Windows.
Is that YouTube channel a big deal for normies or something?

>>721762656
Arch is the exact opposite of complex, it's extremely simple. The problem is that this simplicity comes at the cost of being button clicker friendly. Arch requires you to know what you're doing to even set it up. So you can't click buttons, you first have to read and figure out what you want to do.

>bazzite
le meow

>>721759696
>>721760665
Linux user here.
I'm not really deep into modding, but I did play WoW with a friend of mine who also uses Linux. Although we were playing a self-hosted 3.3.5a WotLK server, so I'm not sure if the same applies to the newer versions or the WotLK re-relase.
Addons work just fine on Linux. And my friend told me he used some modding tool which let him swap models of armor sets because he wanted to look cool on his own client. It apparently worked just fine under WINE, no tinkering needed (or probably not much tinkering since he's not super tech savvy).

I've also used Warcraft 3 map editor extensively years ago on Linux. It was no different than how it worked on Windows.

And I do mod a couple of my GOG games with mods from the SteamWorkshop and they all work fine (aside from obviously multiplayer ones which require the Steam version).

And needless to say any Steam Workshop mods will apply to Steam games just fine.

>>721763623
>Mint is always 2 years behind
Not always. In fact it's not always any given number of years behind, because at any given moment it's about as behind as the age of the major version plus a few months. It's been on Wine 9.0 (released in January 2024) since Mint 22 (released in July 2024). It probably won't get upgraded until Mint 23, and its Wine package might be 2 years old by then, but you're not starting 2 years behind if you install a major Mint version on release.

>>721760665
I can mod every game I've wanted to, don't know about "minion" but you could probably get it to work if you try hard enough, unless the developer bans you. That's the main problem with linux gaming, developers paid off by microsoft ban you from their games. If they don't ban you, there's no problem.

I've been prepping to move to Linux once W10 flat out stops being supported in the coming years, I like the Steam Deck desktop mode, but people apparently say that the desktop environment it uses isn't really made for beginners, so I dunno. I did download KDE, but I'll have to do some more research, I'm tempted to just bite the bullet and go for CachyOS or something.

really want to swap to linux but i cant give up simracing and the occasional online game

>>721753549
Wow, the 'eck is pretty big in Japan.

>>721756930
>because fuck downloading 2TB again
Can you not just transfer the files between drives if you're dual booting? Or set up a symlink?
I've got two PCs and steam has a thing where it'll transfer downloaded files over LAN instead of redownloading the entire game, it helped me out a lot.

>>721760035
Its wild how much /v/ shits on fortnite yet every linux thread is apparently full of people that play it.

Year of the linux came and went with Android. Haven't seen the Linux adoption numbers move beyond 2% in years.

Gabe newell's push for Linux via Steam deck was a failure. Son of a bitch was too much of a coward to release Episode 3 as a Linux exclusive.

>>721752583
newfag

>>721768007
And that's a good thing. I don't want my communities and distros shitted up by army of NPC chuds begging for everything to dumbed down to match their IQ

>>721768007
>Gabe newell's push for Linux via Steam deck was a failure
It's the only handheld that exists for anyone who isn't retarded.

>>721768327
A the risk of sounding pedantic; Switch 1 that came out years before not considered a handheld gaming device?

>>721767318
>umm, technically...
If you want to be more specific, then sure:

- Assuming you start using Mint immediately after a new major release, for the next 2 years of using it you'll be behind Fedora and Arch distros 75% of the time.
- Assuming you start using Mint in the mid point of it's release (a year after the major release), for the next year you'll be over a year behind Fedora and Arch.

You might not be "exactly 2 years behind at all times", but you're approaching an unreasonably high amount of time of "being behind" distros like Bazzite and CachyOS.
It averages out to constantly being 1 year out of date. An office drone or a kid in school would probably not even mind this. But this is not really ideal for many (maybe most) people, especially gamers who rely on Proton and users who only install stuff from their distro repositories instead of flatpak or appimage.

>>721767468
Right now on your windows machine you grab an WSL image, install any desktop environment you want and try it out over remote server. Personally I quite like KDE as a simple win10 replacement, but if you want something more like mac/win11, people seem to like gnome too.

>>721767715
>Can you not just transfer the files between drives if you're dual booting? Or set up a symlink?
You probably can, I just haven't tried it yet. Been waiting for steam sale on monday to get somehting new anyway.

>>721768007
Man, remember that brief period of time when mobile gaming was actually good? When you could grab some random guy's hobby project and play for fun, instead of every game being an add-filled addiction machine.

>>721768436
Switch is for retards

>>721768327
Most gamers have room temp IQ and barely operate the execute installer of games. God help them if they ever need to touch the terminal.

>>721768470
You know exactly what I am saying, you don't use Linux so maybe you are one of those NPCs

>>721768706
>you don't use Linux
I only use linux, tranny, go rope yourself

>>721757819
You could just install a different DE on mint and start with that

L4D2 is completely broken on Arch for me and most games keep processing vulkan shaders every time I launch them. I like Linux but for gaming it has been ass, better than I expected but still ass

>>721768808
No you don't. Because if you did, you'd know exactly what would happen if Linux went "mainstream "

Daily reminder for 6XXX users, FSR4 works with the leaked int8 dll FSR4 version.

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>>721767715
>Wow, the 'eck is pretty big in Japan.
Which is strange since they're not know for their big Decks.

>>721768547
You can just mount your windows drive in linux and tell steam where the games are installed on that drive
NTFS doesnt always play nice but it should work fine

>>721768884
>processing vulkan shaders
just disable it then in steam options, it isn't necessary anymore

>>721767468
You can just use Bazzite. It's using KDE Plasma just like SteamOS is. And it's pretty easy to use especially compared to CachyOS which can sometimes require a bit more knowledge.

>people apparently say that the desktop environment it uses isn't really made for beginners
I wouldn't say this is true. I mean, it's currently the best desktop environment Linux has to offer. There's also GNOME which some people consider "easier", but that's only if you're more used to mobile interfaces compared to desktop/windows-like interfaces.
If you opt for Bazzite they also have the option of defaulting you to GNOME instead of KDE if that's more of your thing. But you can easily switch between the two by just installing the other.
And aside from those two desktop environments, I wouldn't really consider others as a beginner unless you know exactly what you want. KDE and GNOME are getting the most effort and attention, while also being the most popular by a very large margin.

I'm happy sticking to W10 for my desktop PC for gaming. But W11 pushed me over the edge, now I'm dual-booting with cachyOS on my laptop where I do my actual work.

Wish I'd gone with limine as my starting bootloader instead of systemd-boot, would've been way easier to roll back to a snapshot the one time it broke. But I've got that going now.

>>721758282
kek

>>721769009
>you're trans!
>>721769072
>you're indian!
>>721769297
>you're trans!
>>721769369
>you're indian!
>>721769452
>you're trans!
What happens if neither of you are either of those things? Are you capable of coming up with anything else? I mean, if you're trying to make someone mad enough to fuck off and it's not working, maybe it's because you're repeatedly using an insult that doesn't work because it isn't true.
Has 4chan still not realized that "you will never be a woman" doesn't offend people who don't want to be a woman?
>heh, you have a penis
Yeah, I do. It's awesome. My wife likes it too.
Anyway you're both cringe. Go touch grass or whatever equivalent remark the kids are using today.

>>721770201
A cum crusted waifu pillow is not a real "wife" no matter how hard you prefer it is.

>>721770298
Telling a married man he's single also doesn't really work as an insult.

>>721770201
>What happens if neither of you are either of those things?
Anyone that talks shit about "the chuds" is a spiritual tranny if not an actual one. Simple as that.

>>721770427
You're not really married in a legal sense. Learn to read. Your anime life-sized pillow is not a real woman. You pretending it is your wife, is not a legal contract. It just means you're mentally ill.

I’ll switch to Linux when Gaben makes SteamOS suitable for general use, any predictions when this will happen?

>>721770610
Stay on windows where you belong.

>>721770679
You probably think you are a hackerman when you type on your little command line faggot

>>721770826
I do think that, I'm better and smarter than you btw

>>721770826
Your level of intelligence and skill is best suited for Windows. You really should stay put and be happy that you're at least capable of changing the wallpaper.

Is W11 really that bad if you use IoT? How much spyware can you disable? How much bloat does it have and how much can you remove?

>>721771078
>How much spyware can you disable?
If the answer isn't "all of it", then its still too much spyware.
Coming with spyware at all should be enough of a red flag for you to want to stop.

>>721771383
I'm White doe

>>721770610
>I’ll switch to Linux when Gaben makes SteamOS suitable for general use
Short answer: Never, just fucking pick Mint or Bazzite.
Long Answer: SteamOS will always be a gaming OS with extra freedom. It's like asking to make the 3DS or PS4 OS available for general use. Even if Valve were making a proper Linux based competitor to Windows, they've stated that you still wouldn't want to use it yet, because Nvidia's drivers aren't up to their standard of being similar performance to Windows and FOSS. And the FOSS driver is shit, while the proprietary one is kinda shit and closed sourced.

>>721771383
Can confirm >>721771451
Is in fact white.

>>721771737
You should stick with you MacBook and stop posting on Linux threads. You're like that Windows loser from earlier.

>>721757491
It was off-topic because this is the shitposting board. That gaming-related discussion in the early replies? Umm, yikes. Not okay. Fortunately, the Windows fanclub came to shit things up, and now the thread is janny-approved since it has devolved into people started calling each other Indian names and wrongly guessing each others' sexual preferences.

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/720190382/

Our regular ban evader has arrived
>>721771754
>>721772076

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>>721771870
>and stop posting on Linux threads.
But... I love arch linus konqi...

>>721771737
This
>>721771870
Stop posting nigger, you derail the thread

>>721772076
linux is based and you have tranny flags on your windows taskbar
>NOOO I tinkertrannied the fag flags off my computer!
I don't believe you, wintroons are too stupid to know how to do that

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>>721772346
lol. LMAO
this (You)?

>>721772452
Maybe it is, I want you to read every last one of those posts, wintroon, so you know why you're a faggot

>>721772589
lol mald troonix user

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>>721772310
Based unleashed enjoyer

>>721772702
Read them all and cry, lol you actually looked up all my posts that you seethe about, you are such a dick sucking microcok bitch. Read all those posts and tell me how you feel.

>>721770610
>Users should not consider SteamOS as a replacement for their desktop operating system.
Never.

>>721753431
Do the Japanese have their own distro? If not they should make one, and make it in English too. I'd use it.

>>721753431
Linux is way too English dependent for them to use.

>>721752514
As long as there is no "one linux" or you need to use console to do even one small thing, it will never get over 3% on steam

>>721773512
>there is no "one linux"
That's a good thing althoughbeitever.

>>721772881
You sound malding in that post though. lol lmao troonix

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>>721773512
don't worry google will ack troonix in one swoop with their androjeet OS.

>>721774054
But yet one of the biggest reasons why linux gaming will never grow big, it will only be niche category and that's why big dev's wont support it natively

>>721773512
Why is typing "install steam" into a box some insurmountable task for people?

>>721770610
There's only one logical reason why you'd want SteamOS as your everyday operating system. Hypothetically, games could be fine-tuned to the specific SteamOS environment, but that's ultimately superficial because it really doesn't matter which distro you're using. You're probably going to have the same drivers and the desktop environment/window manager is all still based on X11.

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>>721774379
That isn't the only thing you will need to write lets say you want to game next 5 years...

>>721757491
have you considered that, maybe this isn't on-topic?
What fucking toaster you use has nothing to do with games
ywnb on-topic
>>>/g/

>>721773512
In the Steam Survey stats which is heavily biased towards Windows, Linux has been over 2.5% for several months now. It doesn't need much more growth to cross your the 3% threshold. Mostly because Linux adoption in Asia is lagging the west.
In the adjusted stats of Western Steam users, Linux has been over 5% for 6 months.

There is not one singular OS from Microsoft. You cannot use Microsoft's OS in 2025 without needing to use the multiple terminals Microsoft includes unless you have the most minimal use case.
The only reason Microsoft had so much market share in the past, is systems shipped with it pre-installed and already configured.
The reason Linux is gaining ground is systems are shipping with it pre-configured and pre-installed.

>>721770610
>I want valve to be responsible for compatibility for my weird hardware configuration that uses a chink motherboard and a temu graphics card. When will this happen?
Valve doesn't want to be responsible for your hardware. Just install Linux on a computer, learn how to use it. Even Gentoo is brain dead once it's set up.

>>721752514
>Year of the gaming Linux desktop?
With kernel level anti-cheat being required for nearly every multiplayer game being developed now, I can't see this happening. Normal people also aren't going to do it

>>721752514
>Use Mint
>doesn't work
>people still fellate this garbo thats literally ubuntu grift with shiny trinkets

>>721776214
They also ignore how the iso has had malware in it multiple times

>>721776441
To be fair, Windows of late has had malware in it every time

Personally I'm using CachyOS and it's pretty much the ideal distro for me. Haven't used Bazzite but in principle it seems like a very good newbie option
>>721775897
That's like saying mobile phone gacha gamers can't use linux. Who cares. Social gaming and social media addicts are subhuman.

>>721776927
>That's like saying mobile phone gacha gamers can't use linux. Who cares. Social gaming and social media addicts are subhuman.
Contrary to popular belief among freetarded GNU/linux users, market share and profitability are important to game developers

>>721771165
>If the answer isn't "all of it", then its still too much spyware.
what about systemd, which every /g/ user claims uploads your /gif/ collection directly to israeli servers so they can manipulate you into supporting ukryne o algo

>bazzite
I can't believe Steve is trying to destroy the perception of Linux Gaming.

For me, it's Kinoite.

>>721753549
>Steam Deck is wildly popular in JP
Not really. It has lots of advertisement because Steam signed with a company called Komodo which is in charge of shilling the thing there, south korea and HK. Other pc handhelds like the ROG ones have similar amount of advertisement too.

>>721776214
>>doesn't work
Works on my machine.
>>721776441
>the iso has had malware in it
I didn't download that one.

>>721780041
Multiple had it bro, but you'd probably never even notice if you had it desu

>>721777141
This is actually why Linux has been hitting above its weight for PC gaming for a while.
Desktop Linux users at 5% of the market are far more likely to spend money, than any other platform's audience.

>>721776214
I used it a couple years ago and it was nothing but problems. Games crashing, the os itself crashing and freezing my pc etc.
I know the mint shills wont believe me since i have no way to prove any of that stuff lmao. But what i can say is that no other distro, the main two i jump between now being fedora and endeavouros, have ever given me problems like mint. I think the problem with mint is that all the software it comes with is horrendously out of date which nobody ever tells you

>>721767715
You can in fact put the game data on NFS and just bind mount it
I would know

I've been using exclusively Linux for the past 4 years and I've never been tempted to go back to windows. Windows 10 sucked, and then Windows 11 was the shittiest OS I ever used.
>b-but muh multiplayer games
Literally do not give a fuck, I'm a grown man. I'm not playing every new multiplayer game that drops after HS anymore. Every multiplayer game I'd conceivably want to play is at least 10 years old and doesn't have any compatibility issues.

>>721780610
Yeah, Mint is built to Windows users sensibilities, where they want the oldest supported version. Meanwhile for good hardware support on Linux you generally want the latest and greatest version.

I think this is because on Microsoft's platform the UI only gets worse over time, and most users systems come pre-installed and set up to run the version they ship with. So the minute their system downgrades to the new version, the carefully set up platform starts to collapse.
Meanwhile on Linux based OSes you can keep using the same old UI if you want, there are still UIs from the 90s that are supported, and if you've built a system to have good Linux support all your hardware has upstream drivers and just works, getting better over time.

>>721781103
I genuinely thing UX design is a scam of a job; this shit wasn't a problem until the internet blew up in the mid-2000s and programmers weren't the ones doing UX "design" anymore
Do not change things that do not need to be changed, thank you very much.

>>721752583
4u

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>>721753948
>hacks
I don't think you know what you're doing.

>>721754105
AMD drivers on Windows and Linux were both fine for me for a 7900xtx
VR on 90h for an Index performed very badly for some reason but probably because it didn't think it should clock up for such a low workload or something lmao
haven't been back on Windows with Nvidia in years but on Linux that's also been mostly fine except for some freezes here and there in Dying Light: The Beast that just require relaunching the game

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SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR REDEEM LINUX NOW YOU STUPID BITCH SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>721754669
>I had to install AMDVLK just to make most games even launch on my desktop since the RADV vulkan driver just didn't work at all.
what dimension do you exist within?

>>721780201
Prove that it ever happened.
>okay here's when it happened
Okay, that's not when I downloaded it.
>durr you could have a virus that no one knows about
So could you.

>>721757819
>Linux is so fucked that distrohopping is unironically a thing
Also sounds like you're looking for tiling window managers.

>>721754323
>Nvidia
>Wayland
just go back to X11, it just werks

>>721782504
That is a very good question, because frankly I do not see how that's possible unless you have some weird fucking server-class GPU or unless everything you're trying to run is raytraced.

>>721768007
Steam Deck was made to put some weight behind Proton. Steam Deck was and is very successful at that. Steam Deck is doing what it's supposed to do.

>>721754820
>hassle me to set up office or something on it for him again.
just say no unless its linux with libreoffice teehee

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>>721754323
>I love Linux, it is never boring with it

>>721771078
if you have to ask yourself if you can disable the spyware, then there's clearly a problem to begin with

>>721771078
Anon, how do you know that there is spyware, because I think you know about that stuff the same way that gangstalking "victims" know that they are being gangstalked.
>b-but everybody knows that
Everybody also knows that there is a backdoor in your CPU, so you're fucked no matter what you do. Now excuse me, I'm going to yell at my neighbor for being a fed who is trying to get me.

>>721754323
troonix moment

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>>721771078
>asking about winblows in a linux thread

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>>721753948
>he fell for the arch meme
many such cases

>>721782553
https://forum.level1techs.com/t/linux-mint-users-everythings-compromised-seriously-20-02/97338

>>721767715
>Its wild how much /v/ shits on fortnite yet every linux thread is apparently full of people that play it.
Damn dude it's almost like you're not just talking to one guy.

>>721784726
windows just bricked SSDs, aint nobody doing well these days

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>>721752514
i'm about halfway through the video but i don't like how wendell hasn't mentioned reproducibility once. when a new user sees a benchmark for something they should be able to just go download that linux distro and get the same results. unfortunately this is very difficult and not user friendly. from an automated benchmark perspective, nixos would be the best in this regard, because you could literally just share the config for the entire system in a git repo

>>721782478
>image source: literally plebbit
/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/1ax0sh3/i_created_a_map_of_the_linux_market_share/
>meanwhile in reality
gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/india
>india 7.7%
gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/norway
>norway 21.1%
hmmm guess who hates linux?
gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/china
>0.81%

>>721787201
>multiple times
>uhhh actually it happened once 10 years ago
I accept your concession.