Will it include MGS4?
What else would it be? PO/PW? Ghost Babel?
>>721797594Why not? Konamijews would pay an extra to profit from its "legendary" status
>>721797739metal gear arcade, touch, acid and acid 2
>>721797594Why would you want a completely neutered port of MGS4?
>>721797739>POs>POs Plus>Acid 1 and 2>Ghost BabelThat's what I want.
Please for the love it god have it include Portable Ops. Unironically my favorite MGS and I'd kill for a version with 60fps and proper 2 analog stick controls.
>>721797594Probably not. There is a ton of licensed products that are crucial to the plot of MGS4. If you took them out you would also have to cut and edit a lot of conversations. Konami didn't even sell a digital version of it because that would also influence the experience. MGS4 can only be experienced as it was intended on a PS3.
MGS4 and PW are musts.They also said that Vol. 1 will get a definitive update for real.
Tried the beginning on 'mulator and got spotted by guys who I thought I was with. Fucking bullshit.
>>721797594>it's metal gear acid 1/2, metal gear survive and a recap of mgs4
>>721797594You're going to get Peace Walker HD, Ghost Babel, Portable Ops, Acid, and maybe Twin Snakes.MGS4 still feels like it's not something that would simply get a part of that package for the size and scope compared to the rest.
>>721797952>>721797949You have fake memories PO wasn't that good.
>>721797968>Konami didn't even sell a digital version of it because that would also influence the experienceYou're wrong. They released MGS4 on PS Store after the trophy update/25th anniversary release, when they finally allowed to install the full game on HDD without those chapter installations
>>721797594It would be the only reason to buy it. If it actually does not include 4 it would be the worst case of shitting the bed Konami has done since firing Kojima.
>>721797594>Will it include MGS4?That's presumably why it's taking so long.
>>721798028Silicon Knight games are all in a legal hell between Nintendo and the devs. You won't see Twin Snakes on anything ever. Ninendo is working hard to keep it that way for decades.
>>721798096I haven't even seen the status of how Silicon Knights rights are right now and haven't since the X-Men Legends destruction debacle, so at this point I'm not gonna make assumptions.
>>721798060They removed it form the store and revoked all sold licenses for it for the same reason I mentioned before.
>>721798040Better than PW.
>>721798173No, they fucking didn't. You can still download MGS4, both pkg and rap files, directly from official Sony servers
>>721798214Retarded take but ok, the only thing it does better is unique character models.
>>721798225How about I rap you in your pkg, sissy.
>>721798225Google it. There is tons of threads about people losing acess to digital versions of MGS4. The files might be on the server but even if you bought it you can't download it on a unmodded PS3. Same thing that happened with PT.
>>721798275feel free to post it, because I can't see shitthere's so >ledditor who bought the game in 2022 on PS Store
The only thing that stopped MGS4 from releasing on 360 was file size, as they didn't expect MGS4 to work so well on the 360 devkit
>>721797968it literally had a working xbox360 port you dumb mongoloid snoyjeet lmao
>>721798040PO is terrible and worse than PW in almost every way, but putting it on modern platforms with some control options would be nice just for completion's sake. I don't think PO's controls are that hard to get used to though. If you use the D-pad for the camera and map the D-pad to a second stick you can get it fairly close to standard Metal Gear anyway. It's still a shit game, of course.
I still think 4 is the best playing game in the series, it just needed more to emphasize it. And I hate that V and Delta default to over the shoulder cameras instead of a centered style like 3 Subsistence and 4.
>>721797594it's gonna be peace walker, 4 and V
Fun fact about MGS4 is that weapons were the only objects in the entire game that had separate lod models - high detail first person/model viewer models and low details third person models.Everything else rendered at full detail all the times, no matter the distance.
>>721798736Huh. Those blurbs are pretty shit
>>721798612>PO is terrible and worse than PW in almost every wayLol no. You can actually crawl while proning in PO, PW has the worst bosses in the franchise, PO has the best vocal theme in the franchise, the story is stupid in both but PW is worse. The only thing PW does better is that it's easier to recruit people. Controls also suck for both games since they were for PSP. Also Gene > Hot Whoman
>>721798678I've never been that impressed with MGS4. It just feels like a streamlined MGS3. Most of the new stuff with CQC doesn't matter. The shooting is much smoother, I guess, but as with Delta it's not a standout feature. I don't dislike MGS4's gameplay, though. I just wish I enjoyed it beyond the opening of Act 5.MGS2 and Ghost Babel are the best, in my opinion. I wish we got a sequel to GB on the GBA that further iterated on it.
>>721798870crawling sucks, actuallythere's a reason there's no crawling in Splinter Cell or Hitman or Thief or Dishonored
Master Collection 1 included>Metal Gear>Metal Gear 2>Metal Gear Solid>MGS VR Missions>MGS2>MGS3>Metal Gear NES>Snake's RevengeThat's 8 games including padding. What 8 MGS games could Vol 2 included?My guess>MGS4>POPS>PW>GZ>MGSV>Ghost Babel>AC!D>AC!D2
>>721797739Peace Walker, MGS4 and MGS5.Pretty sure this was already data mined in the files for Vol 1
>>721798901Fair enough, I can respect those opinions since MGS2 is mechanically solid for the old style gameplay, though I never liked the Big Shell at all for level design. It's one of those series where you really wanna be able to maximize the most out of what's on offer, but the story focus tends to overtake it - and then when you finally get hours upon hours of gameplay in V, people are split because it means so little story, divorcing my own opinions about V's design from the subject.
>>721798958The datamining actually revealed that The Twin Snakes was mentioned as an option for MGS1, which didn't happen.Plans might always change, I don't think Snake's Revenge and NES Metal Gear were originally planned to be included either.
I like how MGS4 is just this completely unportable game apparently because of its 36 brand deals, its constant PS3 references, and also the fact that it was made with the most unique hardware known to mankind that altering anything about it to bring it over to a device that isn't the fucking PS3 is some legendary, fabled, impossible task.
Chink leak confirmed peace walker and portable ops
>>721798919Crawling works best when it's used to shake up the pacing. MG2 actually used crawling the best of any game in the series. There are moments in MGSV where crawling is pretty cool to use, though. Most games just use it as a navigational tool.
>>721798948What about Metal Gear Rising?
>>721798948That V2 would actually be goodso no we wont get it
>>721799142The funniest part is that Kojima just said "yeah, we can port it on the next Xbox after 360" and everyone completely dismisses that part
>>721799052I love the Big Shell but it could've used another few struts' worth of content to explore all of its mechanics.
>>721799216It might be there but I was simply guessing under the idea Konami would pad with more shovelware after 3 main entries (4,PW, V)
>>721799142Funny thing is Peace Walker had brand stuff that they just patched over or removed. You can edit the texture or model of Otacon's Macbook if someone gave a shit, and replace the iPod with some other thing while removing podcasts. The Master Collection didn't restore the Subsistence content and changed stock footage videos, I would not be surprised to see them remove all that stuff. At that point the most major licensed thing is just Otacon's line about Blu-Ray discs and the Playstation 3 for the disc swap gag.
>>721798948the metal gear titles was a lot less effort and 4 will take a lot more effort, vol 2 is definitely going to have less games
>>721797594Hope it includes rising
>>721798736most likely prediction
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>>721799396I disagree. I don't think they will go with less just more shovelware or easy things. MGSV and GZ are already on PC and would take no effort to add to count as "2 games". Then the ACID and Ghost Babel games should be simple enough too.MGS4, PW and maybe POps would be the only effort games
>>721799535Peace Walker is pretty simple considering it already got a remaster to PS3 and 360.
>>721799362>At that point the most major licensed thing is just Otacon's line about Blu-Ray discs and the Playstation 3 for the disc swap gag.I don't know why people make a big deal out of that one too, seems like a pretty simple line splice even if the joke is partially kneecapped
If it's meant to be a cheap bonus, it would be something that they can put into emulator and call it a day.And other than Ghost Babel, the remaining bonus games would be PSP games (Acid and PO games) and Rising.If they want it cheap, they would put some PSP games.If they're making Rising 2, since Platinum remade Guy Savage, they would probably port Rising, since it already has native PC and Nvidia Shield versions.
>>721799589Well there you go. 8 games. Not too much effort outside MGS4 and not the worst looking line up possible. I guess they could add Rising too since that's on PC for no effort if there isn't a Platinum license issue to say Volume 2 has more games than 1.
>>721799535>MGSV and GZ are already on PCbut not on switch, but yeah they'll count it as two games and it'll be a simple resolution/frame rate bump for the other platforms
>>721799595Not to mention there's literal PSX in Otacon's office in MGS1 in every version.While NES games didn't even try to remove the license references to Nintendo.
>>721799689>but yeah they'll count it as two gamesDefinitely. When I saw Volume 1 counted MGS1 and VR Missions separately I instantly realized MGSV and GZ would get the same treatment.
>they should add MGSV to a collectionBro they're on modern platforms, they wouldn't get some remaster treatment, and they have a metric fuckton of DLC and their stupid diamond dog coin currency shit. You can straight up just go buy MGSV and put it on your PS5 or XSX or whatever right this minute. Only Switch misses out, and it probably could've played the damn thing at PS3/360 tier.Rising? That's still PS3 and PC, and Peace Walker HD is still stuck to the old HD Collection, so those make sense to slap into a Master collection, but V is as accessible to any regular, non-lazy consumer, as it has been for ten years.
>>721799916No one says that they should, but we all know that they will.If Konami was smart, they would make Vol. 1 directly for PS4 and Xbone, instead of PS5 and Series X, and only closer to release they added a PS4, which was separate from PS5
>>721799916>>they should add MGSV to a collectionpeople aren't saying that they should, they're saying that it's inevitable because it's probably the simplest inclusion
>>721798678You can mod the camera in 5 to be centeredfeels really good.It's not an outright improvement over 4, but on balance, 5 actually has the content to let the features shine, compared to 4, which presented loads of features, rarely gave any of them the breadth of content to work.I'll grant, somewhere in between might be better. A few more discrete challenges in 5 would have gone a long way to various tools gadgets or features to pull some weight
>>721799916Getting it on the Switch 2 is probably the big draw here, although I imagine with the online content removed. They'll be able to market the PS5 and XSX versions as being the first time of being able to play MGSV in 4K (on console).Although having said that, they struggled to get the Vol 1 games running at above 720p, so Konami would probably just do a bare bones port.
>>721800339Switch 1 would be a primary target anyway. 2 is too early to focus on and it's not doing well for third-parties, so production has to keep the base Switch's capabilities in mind.
>>7217986784's stealth is a bit too reliant on crawling for me. I still think it is fun to play but as far as the more open area stealth goes V definitely has a better flow to it
>>721797739Portable OpsPeace Walker Ground ZeroesThe Phantom Pain Side content:Ghost BabelAcidAcid 2The Twin Snakes
If they can't do MGS4 then they should just can the whole thing. It's just straight up pointless to do a second collection without the big centrepiece game.
>>721801139the sheer incompetence they showed with volume 1 inspires absolutely zero hope in a possible MGS4 port, the idea that they'd do it at all but also if they do it, it is going to be so nightmarishly terrible that we can't even begin to comprehend it We're talking about developers that couldn't increase the internal resolution of what was originally a ps2 game.
>>721797594It's impossible for them to port any ps3 exclusive since they were made with a different architecture for the unique ps3 cpu, it's why the last of us was never ported to pc and instead it was easier for them to remake the whole thing for ps4 and port that
>>721802303>It's impossible for them to port any ps3 exclusive since they were made with a different architecture for the unique ps3 cpu,They literally ported MGS4 for 360. Metal Gear Arcade was a modified MGO2 and was a literal Windows x86 program. They showed a proof of concept footage of MGS4 engine running on fucking Vita.>it's why the last of us was never ported to pc and instead it was easier for them to remake the whole thing for ps4 and port thatThey ported the original TLOU to PS4, you retard
>>721801843Mods eventually made the PC version worth buying, but just barely.
when is delta going to go on sale? I pirated it and actually enjoyed it, I want to at least give Konami the money they deserved but not that much.
>>721802503>They literally ported MGS4 for 360why lie? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_4:_Guns_of_the_Patriots
>>721802503>They ported the original TLOU to PS4that's the last of us part 1 you fucktard
>>721804220you really are retarded
>>721797594it will be unoptimized trash just like vol 1
>>721797594YesWill it be functional and have all the contentMaybe, maybe not. There's a lot of work there for sure.
First of all, every single one of you mentioning MGS V is retarded.Second. Just give me PW already, I don't care about MGS, all I want is to replay one of the best games ever made, possibly with mods.
>>721804115Stay silent, secondary>During my first week as a Konami employee working on Metal Gear Solid 4, I’ll never forget seeing the profound disappointment on my colleagues’ faces when they began to dig deep into the first-run PlayStation 3 development kits.>Like the public at large, the Kojima Productions team believed Sony’s hyperbole about its incredible next-gen hardware; however, when it came down to actually pushing pixels through the PS3, everyone was underwhelmed. The team was warned ahead of time that the hardware would be difficult to develop for, but they had no idea how bad it would end up being.>Despite how downtrodden my colleagues were with developing on PS3, most of them were still hardcore Sony fans and were not in favor of spending resources on such a test. They believed MGS 4 would look and run terribly on Microsoft’s older and inferior hardware.>One fateful day, the Konami R&D team hosted a meeting where we got to see the fruits of their labor—Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly on an Xbox 360. As one of the few unabashed Xbox fans in the office, I was excited.>The prevailing belief around the industry was that Sony must have secured an exclusive deal for the game. It wasn’t true. Had Kojima chosen to port the game to Xbox 360, his bosses would surely have approved the decision, but he wasn’t ready to make the jump.https://mega.nz/file/scVgxLQJ#cIC_4qxr8yIgKs7mqLXwaAgs2LQrPNdRd0pNcqLNWnc>>721804220Are you retarded? There's a reason why people joke about TLOU having more re-releases than gamesPS4 version came out in 2014. One year after the PS3 original.
>>721806990>Todd Howard got universally laughed at for how many Skyrims there were >Cuckmann is getting throated despite there being more TLOUs than SkyrimsLife simply isn't fair they should both be mocked
>>721806067MGSV will be in Vol. 2 and that's inevitable.The only hope is that there could be Vol. 2 digital bundles without MGSV.MGSV is now older than MGS2 was when HD Collection came out.
>>721797594just give me fucking ACID
>>721798018>>721798018great unlike you cucks I've played 4
>>721797594why would they give you 4 in a collection when they can just sell it standalone, I sware v is retarded
>>721799258yet it didn't happen when he was the head of konami, funny that japs eye says bullshit and you suck it up
>>721798040>You have fake memories PO wasn't that good.The biggest issue with PO were the dogshit controls due to being stuck on the PSP and its very limited buttons, a port could fix that
>>721797893Exactly. It will be censored. I’ll stick to emulation.
>>721808269like a port on the ps3?
>>721808179WHEN were they going to release MGS4, retard?They were busy with Rising and Ground Zeroes in 2013.Then they were busy with PC ports of Rising and GZ and the development of TPP through 2014 and 2015.After TPP, Kojima got kicked off and Konami lost interest in western focused games.
>>721808269Emulating it with a controller that has two sticks fixes most of the control issues. The biggest problem is really that PO's level design is terrible. The story is also a mess at best but I can forgive that; it's not as if I'm that attached to the story in Ghost Babel but Ghost Babel is one of my favorites in the series. PO just isn't a fun game.
Imagine still believing the “mgs4 360 port” bullshit. MGS4 is impossible. You will never have a collection with it in it.
>>721808481so they was gonna release mgs4 on a console that wasn't even out and that didnt come out for like 5 years, I see you are fucking stupidbusy with rising? a game they literally did no work on cause they couldnt make cutting everything fun and then gave the idea to someone else, GZ a whole lets say act 1 size game of mgs4 so busyyou said it was easy he could do it in his sleep get some indians and bang mgs4 and you steamies would slop it up (cause look you dropped the xbox talk to go on about pc)
>>721809054Do I believe people who actually worked on the game or schizo fanboys from the times when consolewarfaggotry was at it's peak?
>>721809054but anon it could of came on like 6discs, maybe 7 cause the online is huge too
360 didn't even have the space to download the online
I never played 3 and with all the hype and remake I wanted to give it a try, but ended up distracted replaying 1 and 2 first.Now I'm debating getting 3 as part of the master collection or trying the remaster. Better to experience it the old way, or the new way? I'm used to the controls and style of 1 and 2 again now, but I've got to admit there's some real awkwardness in them, so remaster sounds appealing if they've brought that more in line with modern games?
>>721810298Playing a casualized version of a game that was not that hard to begin with would be kind of crazy from my perspective.
>>721810298I say OG.
>>721810298As someone that bought Delta, you aren't really missing much by playing the original.
>>721810451>Playing a casualized versionIt's the exact same game with less retarded controls
>>721804220NO YOU ARE THE FUCKTARD
>>721812057you play it for the gameplay obviously
>>721813719Yes? I can't tell if this is a sarcastic reply or not. The gameplay refinements/changes are pretty modest. I don't hate Delta (don't regret buying it or giving it a fair shake) but it's 95+% the same game with arguably worse art direction. The best change is adding more CQC animations.
>>721797968Just replace the licensed shit like iPod and remove the conversations about the licensed shit, problem solved
>>721798678MGS 5 is good however 4 has great gameplay but the problem is that the gameplay ends after Act 2, once they tailing mission in eastern Europe starts thats when the movie without gameplay begins
I see that the "Ghost Babel is my favorite MGS game that I've never played" crowd is here. That shit should have been remade before Snake Eater.
>>721797594If it doesn't include MGS4 I won't buy it, I'll just save 60% of the price tag and buy PW standalone, because anything else it can possibly contain is either shit I don't care about (PO, emulated Ghost Babel, etc) or things I already own (Ground Zeroes, V)
>>721798173No it's still on the EU PSN store, 19.99.
>>721797968>There is a ton of licensed products that are crucial to the plot of MGS4.Yes because you just can't progress MGS4s plot without Otacon having an iMac and Snake having an iPod.Literally every single licensed things in MGS4 could be model swapped away to a generic clone with 0 effect on the game or story, and no a few throwaway dialog lines that aren't needed at all won't change that.
>>721816417What about all of the licensed guns? You cant just censor those
>>721816610GB is great. What's the issue?
all of the changes MGS4 would get alongside re-implementing PW's online makes me think those will be the only two games with maybe ghost babel being an emulated extra at best
>>721798173>>721798275>They removed it form the store and revoked all sold licenses for itYou are wrong.
>>721817628How would they even re implement PWs online? its peer to peer would it just be a direct port and would work?
>>721816610I have played Ghost Babel, albeit emulated, like 15 years ago. It's a great game and a cool pseudo-continuation of the MSX games and your cope isn't going to change that.
>>721817708It worked fine in the HD Collection on PS3. Just do whatever they did with that.
>>721797594Yes wrapped in an emulator thingy running at the same resolution and fps it did on ps3.
>>721817245>licensed guns?>licensedretard
>>721818134Yeah, guns that organizations/owners own the rights or whatever to. Dumbass.
>>721817245not a problem when they remade delta? if it really is a problem, then do an MGSV again.
>>721818281They didn't license shit and Delta was just released with real weapons
>>721819136Currently licensed weapons?
>>721819224What part of "they didn't license shit" don't you understand?
>>721819312So all of those real guns in MGS4 arent licensed?
>>721819371Yes, they just modeled whatever they thought was cool.A game like SWAT 4 actually had license from Colt for M4A1
I WANNA RETIRE MY PS3 HURRY IT UP FAGGOTS
>>721820352I just finished it on RPCS3 last week
>>721798173Another fearmongering post, i wonder who's behind it.
>>721822038I just can't understand why Metal Gear fanbase is filled with so many people being so confident in being wrong
Konami........ bring back MGO2 and I will take back everything I ever said about you the last decade.
>>721823025Save MGO2 is actually playable on RPCS3
>>721817680Why is raped bitch on the cover when all he does the entire game is job
>>721797594if it does, its development will be outsourced to bluepoint yet again
>>721823370retard, they're owned by Sony now
>>721797594Translation: X-Fags are taking advantage of Komani's hate for Kojima to get the games Kojima just wouldn't let them have.
>>721823212Because Snake is the main character.
>mgs4Licensing nightmare
>>721823437yes, and Konami will outsource them to work on MGS4 just like they did for 2 and 3's modern ports. Being owned by sony changes nothing, if anything that gives them more cred for the job to ruin MGS4's atmosphere and visual effects
>>721808269No the biggest issue with portable ops is that it sucks. The bosses suck, the story sucks, the characters suck, the stupid management system sucks, the mission system sucks, the player swapping sucks.
>>721823837retard
>>721798736>MGS2>ever present threat of terrorismLegit the dumbest way to describe that game.
>>721807985>played>4>played
>>721823212He's the MC and he's an old fart (bilologically) give him a break.
>>721797739It's just gonna be Peace Walker and MGSV Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain LMAO
