Did you cry when he showed up?Store links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomGame Save Analyzer / Tacker:https://silksong-completionist.com/
>>721814704disgusting BUG-vania
>>721814704at some point you have to take the plunge and just go to /vg/>>>/vg/540561202
brave asumption but being able to heal three hits ,and in the air no less, offsets 2 damage from anything bigger than a basic scuttler
>>721814704Wtf is this thread? And why start with spoiler? Retard
cuck game, used goods, etc
>>721815784You have to hit more times to even get off a heal than in the original Hollow Knight. Not being able to heal in the air is fine, especially since The Knight has a bunch of charms he can make use of if you're bad at finding the time to heal. Shape of Unn, Baldr's Shell, Quickheal... etc. There's no blue/red/yellow slot system so you can just slot any of them into your build as needed.
>>721815878Used gods*
>>721815640fuck off cuck
>>721815873Literally made by a bad actor. Probably the same guy that's been botting the threads and spamming porn.
>>>/vg/
Make a comfy thread and ignore this retarded shitpost thread.
>>721815878This entire line ruined everything about Hollow Knight for me. Look at her. Look at her succulent curves and tell me this wasn't specifically designed to elicit arousal. Tell me this isn't bait to make you desire used goods. Team Cherry is full of cucks. Every single one of those australian fucks played us for fools, making sure to design the sexiest creatures known to man, only to be met with the gut punch that they're used goods with gaping vaginas taking black cock every single day. I can't imagine the state of all Hornetfags out there who have actual standards, the hurt they must be feeling knowing their wife wasn't saving herself for them. The chinese review bombing wasn't enough. We need every possible language to review bomb these dirty fucks for taking away the purity of our bug wife. I will not be able to sleep until this justice has been undone. Make them patch it out. Make them listen to the fans for fucking once
obvious bait thread
You think Team Cherry will make another game or just finish the DLCs for Silksong and retireI mean we talking about family man here. They must be busy with kids and stuff
>>721816618If you do the Mr Mushroom quest it says TO BE CONTINUED in the ending.
>silkSONG>game is not music game
She didn't tell shakira her name either >captcha: NTRH
>>721814704Can you explain lorewise why he showed up?:
Most bullshit boss in the game. This fucker is an absolute cancer
>>721816052eat shit, nigger
This game is too big
>>721814704>store linkso now you are unironically shilling the flash game? kek
>>721817942>This fucker is an absolute canceranon...
>>721817942>absolute cancer
Please help, I forget where the cogwork vendor isI visited it once after getting clawline then I forget
>>721814704Tranny game.
>>721818519It's marked on the map after you find her, right above the Cauldron in Underworks.
>>721818712Cauldron, thank you, for some reason i though it was in the slab
>>721815878I don't get how "I'm immortal and I found out very quickly that having a lover means I inevitably live past their lifespan and have lived long enough where I can only see it as recreation" is cuckoldry.
>>721819349Simple. It's bait.
>>721816618Where do you go from here
>>721819546Ocean bugs
>>721817942Tacks. Just use tacks. And parry. There you go. The fight is now trivialized.
>>721817942I first tried him using Wanderer's. Honestly he didn't really seem like anything special, I was very surprised when others said they struggled with him. I guess I just meshed very well with the rhythm of this fight or something, I struggled way way way more on stuff like Lace and Karmelita.
>>721819349If only there were characters to match her lifespan
>>721814704They should kiss
>>721819546Hollow Knight: The Mighty
>>721816618They trademarked a new title back in 2023, something about a FoxI imagine that's going to be their next main project after Silksong DLCs
>>721816618Making games seems more like a hobby to them, I doubt they are just gonna stop and never make anything ever again.
>>721815878How the hell are you gonna yume ship a fucking bug
>>721816618They apparently enjoy their work and theyre not on any schedule to perform, plus theyre both multi millionaires, not billionaires now so they can do whatever they want without the caveat that they have to fuck babies first
>>721819954>I first tried him using Wanderer's>wanderer user struggles with bosses that deflect, parry and move aroundBruh
>>721820287Fearless Fox
>>721815878God, imagine Hornet pinning you down on the bed with her godly strength, letting her inherent urge to dominate take over and tying you down with her silk so you can't resist. She gets and top and starts riding you. Minutes turn to hours turn to days, but she doesn't stop. She has no need for food or water or rest, and time itself is meaningless to her. Lost to her instincts she pays no heed to your mortal limitations, and bound as you are you have no way to stop her. Weeks later she finally snaps back to consciousness, only to find a drained husk with a shattered pelvis. "Not again..."
>>721820621I'm not sure what you are trying to say honestly
I am not enjoying Act 3
>>721819954My biggest problem is just how glitchy this guy is. Sometimes his hitbox will just be outright non-existent, the tacks just conveyor belt away, and some of his attacks just suck you into them. I beat him with poison tacks, but god fucking damn was he a pain in the ass.
Just beat the organ nigga, how good is the counter move?
>>721815873>Wtf is this threadIt's the retarded mods gaslighting again.
>>721814704>Did you cry when he showed up?yes
>>721817942Walk away from him. Just walk. A lot of his moves that seemingly come out of nowhere you'll miss (except when he throws his shield straight at you). Then you just need to react to his movements. Best time to hit him is immediately after any move, but the big ground pound he does followed by a forward dash is the most obvious, you can get a few hits on him then.
Where the hell am I supposed to go? I can't go back up to Whiteward, the path to the right is locked and I can't go left either.
>>721821003You're not supposed to. Shits fucked. Persevere.
>>721821476Take the tube my dude
>>721821124How good are your reflexes?
>>721821476You takes your new movement ability and you goes explore elsewheres with it
>flea jugglingyeah, i think i'm gonna come back laterthe pogo was baby piss easythe dodge was more about not getting fucked by RNG in pinch situations, but juggling is all RNG
>>721814704The more I read the lore the more I think it doesn't make any sense
>>721821124Its a defensive move really. Use it when you know you can't avoid an attack. It works for projectiles too. You just have to time it right. I don't think it does a great amount of damage compared to the other silk skills.
>>721821124It's bad, like really bad. You use it if you know you are getting hit and can't dodge
>>721819616Where do I find the Tacks at?
>>721821616>>721821648But I can't. The red line is a wall, you can't go past it.
>>721815878why does every western female character have to be like this?
>>721821827From the bench, instead of going to the left and up, go to the left and down
>>721819349It's just shitposting. They misconstrue a fantasy trope of an immortal outliving every single one of their lovers as them instead being a raging whore who takes hundreds of dicks daily.
I might quit the game and not finish it. I'm 50 hours in and pretty much every boss fight makes me wanna kms. I am having ZERO fun for large chunks of the game. Idk, i only felt this way with HK 1 towards the very end, and even then i made the choice to get the true ending knowing what awaits, but that was it.
So, lorefags I summon thee. What was his problem? Was he gay and incestuous with his twin brother? Was it actually a real brother or just a "brother from another family" kind of brother? Or maybe he was just a narcissist that loved his image so much he imagined a copy of himself to love? Since his fight was in a dream sequence, you would say that if his brother/lover was real, he would appear there. I can't make heads or tails about it since the clues are too vague and it leaves it open to interpretation.
>>721821895Got it, thanks.
>>721821827There exists a switch. Seek it out. Your fate is now your own.
>>7218219531. Use your tools2. Upgrade your nail3. Get more health and silk
>Beast Crest is ba-AACCKK
>>721822003They're just gay bugs anon don't think too deep about it
>>721822003They were two randos that happened to be born at the same time and were really similar to each other
>>721814704I like sibling art
>>721817942I hate bosses that "move so fast it's like it's teleporting" (aka. he's just teleporting with no telegraph), because they're just bound to catch you with contact damage mid-dash or mid-jump.
>>721822164it's not even about those, i put the 2nd oil on the nail, and i am using my tools. But most bosses drain my shards pretty quick since it takes me a long time to learn them. >>721822319i saw this webm before i reached this boss, and then i tried this strat, but every time i spun into the boss with the pogo i took damage. I tried multiple times and every single pogo hit damaged me. I thought maybe the crest gets an upgrade which i don't have, idk. But anyway i beat it with the starter crest after
>>721821953What helped me get better in this game's boss fights, assuming you want to learn the fight patterns and not brute force each fight with Wanderer or Architect tool spam, is that it's not always your turn to attack. And if the bosses feel a bit too tanky even after you got your nail and tool damage upgrades, you probably aren't using your silk skills and offensive tools enough. Let alone using the right tool for the right job. For example the volt stake in this webm trivializes some boss fights, Father of the Flame and Bell Eater from the top of my head, while in some other bosses it's useless.
>>721822408How come Stag Beelte geezer is a wise and talkative person but Bell Beast is a drooling nonverbal retard?
>>721822003>What was his problem? Was he gay and incestuous with his twin brother? Was it actually a real brother or just a "brother from another family" kind of brother?theyre bugs anon i dont think they have a concept of incest. and theyre gay because theyre mantises; the plotline wouldnt work with a straight couple
>>721821792Benjin and Crull got a quest for ya
>>721822493ROACH GUTS, ROACH GUTS
>Fanbase had this weird demand for slopes in Silksong>Team cherry adds a single slope that doesnt do anything
>>721822480Some bugs are "animals" and some bugs are "human"Stag is more like a cab driver and Beast is more like a horse
>>721822003>Two princes meet>Realize they like each other>One inevitably dies >The other doesn't want to live anymore>Is furious you would look into his mind uninvitedIts not that hard to understand
>>721822453>volt stake for father of flamesNTA but damn, i wish i thought of that.the drill worked pretty well once i got in position, but getting to the top 2 balls was a pain
>>721822003Hornet killed him for being a gay narcisist. That's it.
>>721822003>you would say that if his brother/lover was real, he would appear thereAnon, the reason is to make the fight harder by having a lingering hitbox that you can't hit. Its not that deep.
>>721822606Skating down Mt. Fay was pretty cool tho
>>721822453How do I access this fight? I freed him in Sinner's Road .
>finished with 93% completionI'm sorry Hornet.... I failed you...
>>721817942You got me, i laughed.
this fat cunt is blocking my way to the flea isnt he
>>721822606Isn't it like the best way to get to that one NPC
>>721822003>If you want to complete your bestiary you have to mindrape this grasshopper that's already been fucked by the citadel for no reason, even though he seems like an okay guy. Then once you're done you rip out his heart and keep it in your house. Why did Team Cherry do it bros.
>>721822738Act 3 near the crows
>>721822453where do you get that tool? never saw it in my playthrough
>>721822420I genuinely love the final boss fight in SS but the amount of times where I was like "Okay I'm going to reorient myself so I can have better control of the tempo for the fi-and she teleported into my path and I lost health for it".A nearly perfect final boss fight but this shit made me lose a lot more than I woulda liked.
>>721822738It's just an arbitrarily blocked path that opens in Craw Lake in Act 3, literally no way to know about it, so don't feel bad.
>>721822738Act 3 secret area East from the crow house >>721822823Act 2, memorium North East corner where you pick the Materium, there is a breakable wall top right corner.
>>721822768>forgot picnice
>>721822898What's up with this guy anyway? Didn't take no damage or nothing
>>721814704I unironically basedpogged when he did
>>721822898>>721822768no, he's just dead and stuck there forever
>>721822960hard to take damage when you're already dead
What's the optimal route to do the Courier Rasher delivery?
>>721815878>cuck gameHow? Who's getting cucked? Were you envisioning yourself in a romantic scenario with the bug?
>>721822453or the Witch's crest which also forces you to learn the safest spots to heal or do bigger attacks
>>721823032wait how do you get to the flea then?i didn't find any secret passage in the room above where the flea is marked
>>721823079Greymoor->Sinner's Road->Organ->ChoralStart from the gourmand and clear out all the enemies along the path before accepting the delivery
>>721822851and if they ever make a Lace game, you will definetly not be able to teleport like she does.
>Dream bosses kick you out of the dream when you dienow THESE are terrible runbacks. Literally a waste of time.
>really bad at the game (lost twice to Fourth Chorus, skipped Last Judge, stuck on Phantom for hours)>just got to TROBBIOI lasted a while and it doesn't seem like a terrible fight, is it the 2nd version of him that's a bitch or just phase 2/3?
>>721822627Anon, the ant queen's dream takes you so back that she is 1/10th of her size in real time, if the other prince was real, he should have appeared as a real being and not as a silk memory in the silk dream.
>>721823101show map>>721823079 this >>721823157 except pre-clearing enemies is for homossexuals and a waste of time.
seeing barnak catch and kill the spit squit pieces of shit is very satisfying
>>721823271The first Trobbio fight is just fun all around, don't worry about it
>>721823238Yes but you don't have to pay any shards to refill your tools so it balances out
why are there so many nonbinary enemies?
>>721823287Anon, the other prince is already dead in the memory you visit.The boss fight is literally at the guy's grave
>>721823318
>>721823157>>721823318Is it bad I don't know what Organ is?
>obvious false flag OP>people spamming CP>bots spamming garbled nonsense>people copy-pasting old postsThe /v/irgin fears video game discussion>>721823238I hated this, yeah
>>721823483Technically no since it's an optional area / hidden path into Act 2.Have you encountered the Mist yet?
>>721823483Boy are you in for a fun fight
>>721823454Did you notice any signs of life in the coral tower?
>>721821953that was my experience also. Probably one of the reasons why the game is so polarizing is that everyone is discussing the difficulty when really the core of the issue is pacing, the difficulty is one of the symptoms
>>721823483If you haven't done the boss there you shouldn't do Rasher through there anyway
>>721823471Flea is in Whispering Vault. Secret wall passage (you can see a hatch door open) in the top right corner, i think.
Is there any particular reason why the Shaman crest had to be nerfed so it can't bind in midair? It's not particularly good otherwise.
>>721817942cross-stitch was literally made for bosses like this guy or trobbio
>>721823605I'm talking about INSIDE the memoryYou find the Prince when he's looking at the clockwork abomination made from his boyfriend's soulYou go into the memory to find the Prince seething that his boyfriend died
>>721822627how/why going inside people's memory kills them? I don't understand that part
>>721823647Yes. there had to be a downside to having ranged attacks.Just like how Witch had to have a downside (lose regular heal) for having the best moveset
where the fuck is seth? I'm in greymoor, I beat the coral tower heart, just beat the heart he was guarding, just beat the craw king fight. he's supposed to be here but he's not.
Crazy how much better hunter feels once you unlock the harpoon. It's night and day.
>>721823882Head east from the bar and stay on the ground
>>721823564No, I got to the High Halls and got stuck on the gauntlet there so now I'm going back and exploring to power myself up. I have the Double Jump though.
>>721823806Hornet's silk abilities lets her manifest memories into tangible objects, but this requires significant sacrifice to do so. The memory of a legend in their prime manifests as a beating heart, which I guess in this case also equates to their soul? Basically, Hornet's ripping people's souls out.
no idea if its recency bias but silksong just isn't as replayable as the first game
>>721823967I did, he's not anywhere to be found on the ground, he's supposed to be by where Shakra was but there's nothing there. Guess I need to go get the last heart before he spawns or something
>>721814704>>721815640>>721815878>>721816274>>721818267same falseflagging tendietroon btw
Can you parry Seth?
>>721822480How come Confucius was a wise and talkative person but the chimpanzee I saw in the zoo is a drooling nonverbal retard?
>>721824018This
>>721824008Do you know where Sinner's Road is? If so, then go explore there.If not above Greymoor
>>721824140Yeah that's actually where I'm at right now.
>>721824192Well have fun, anon. You'll find your way there eventually.
>>721824018If I ever replay it, it will be modded so I can do away with the tedium
>>721819349The meaning of cuckoldry has expanded over the ages. Initially, it only described a man that raised another man's child. More recently, it grew to describe a man's wife being taken from him, intersecting with NTR. Nowadays, it refers to any situation in which a man is emasculated by another in the context of a sexual or romantic relationship, including if a girl's first kiss or virginity was taken by a previous partner. Personally, I don't mind this evolution since we need some word or phrase to describe this phenomenon.>>721821914Comparing her perspective to that of mortals, she may as well be a raging whore with daily sex flings.
>>721821124Pros: Does a lot of damage, is actually AoE and looks cool as fuckCons: You depend completely on enemy AI for whenever you want to use it.
>>721824302its more of that there's no meaningful progression besides the mobility upgrades everything else feels pointless
>>721824018Do you think Hollow Knight is replayable? These games where a good part of the fun is exploring and discovering things are never particullarlly fun to replay, and the difficulty decreases immenselly on a re-run in both games. At least in Hollow Knight you can do a more difficultty run without mods simply by playing overcharmed, which is pretty cool.
Why did Silksong lack the ambiance and atmosphere of Hollow Knight, /v/?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDn70jh1V0
>>721824582Why is Quirrel the only bug in all of this series with hands
>>721824454The biggest flaw with Silksong is that every even numbered health upgrade is functionally worthless since almost everything does 2 damage"Oh boy, I finally found 4 mask fragments and my reward is.... nothing. I have the same amount of health I had before"
>>721824681even the silk bar upgrades feel pointless since you don't get to heal multiple times until the very end
>>721824681>>721824828Exploration in general didn't feel as rewarding in SS as HK. I can't pinpoint exactly why but these are definitely two reasons.
>>721824018I feel the opposite, my HK replay attempt ended when it felt too samey but with Silksong I can already see the cool sequence breaking I can do to get to Act 2
>>721824943there are no meaningful rewards for exploring in SS besides the crest so after you find the best one there's no reason to look for anything elsein the first game you had charms which change the way you play
>>721824943Probably because there's like 3 blue and yellow tools that are 100x better than everything else and you get them relatively early. Everything else you find is either bad or extremely situational.
>>721825110>There's no meaningful rewards in SS>In HK the meaningful rewards were charms>Which also exist in SS ??????
>>721824681>everything does 2 damageWill this meme ever die? This is simply not true. Every boss and enemy that currently deals two damage would instantly become trivial if it dealt only one.It takes 8 needle hits (without weaver light) to get the silk for a heal, meaning if a boss deals 1 damage you only need 8 needle hits to reverse getting hit three fucking times by them. You would also be able to face tank every boss without the constant double damage, especially with Wanderer and Beast Crest.
>>721825267No one said EVERY attack should do one damage, retard.But when almost everything does 2 damage half of your health upgrades become worthless because the number of hits you can take doesn't change.
>>721825216HK had more diverse and more useful charms. Real ones remember pic related for Path of Pain and White Palace.
>>721825216you could create whole different character builds with charms alonethis was replaced with crest which is a overall worse system since its more restrictive >good pogo attached to the slowest crest>best moveset attached to the crest with the shortest reach
>>721825487best moveset is witch thoughbeit
>>721825358Name ten attacks that deal double damage but shouldn't. >almost everything deals 2 damageNot true. I garantee it's not even 50% of all damage sources.Not true
>>721825579yeah but it has dogshit healing gimmick
Beat lost lace, took ~45 minutes, 5 attempts that made it to phase 3, loadout was>Hunter's crest: silkspeed, druid eyes, warding bell, longnail, cog fly, plasmium (Dice annoy me so I just keep compass+magnet on for no reason) Honestly didn't think it was as bad as everyone said, after the first ~30 minutes I was consistently making it to phase 3 with only a few masks missing and all tool uses left. you just gotta a mid distance, double jump if she counters, and exploit the punishable attacks (especially the one where she shoots the saws at the ground you can get like 4-5 hits in during that)100% completion in 44 hoursTop 5 hardest bosses>5. Seth>4.The last judge>3. Karmelita>2. Trobbio 1>1. Lost laceTop 5 best bosses>5. Karmelita>4. Lost Lace>3. Last Judge>2. Cogwork>1. Nyleth
>>721825923just don't get hit
Top 3 bosses are:>1. First Sinner>2. Karamelita>3. PhantomWorst boss: Tormented Trobbio
>>721826067>No Widow
>>721825110>>721825456this player is mid at best and cannot grasp the numerous combinations available in SSthis player is also dishonest because he's pretending HK didn't boil down to 4 builds
>>721825954
>>721826132I hated that bitch my first playthrough, but the second time wasn't bad at all.
>>721826132Widow was pretty good, but I liked Phantom better.
>>721815878>>721816485She's a bug, Rajesh.
>>721822803Faggots cannot be allowed to live.
what or who is Phantom exactly anyway?
>>721825456Yeah I definitely used this shit in PoP which is why I could never understand why people called it so hard. Whenever you got clipped by anything you could just stand on a platform and heal your mask back to full. It made it extremely tedious but also impossible to die unless you were impatient.
>>721826294Ok, Mohammed
>>721826310One of GMS' failed attempts at making silk based life (like Lace)
Are Mount Fay and Sands of Karak the hardest platforming challenges in the game?
>>721826442Karak had a platforming challenge?
>>721824626He's jut that coolBut he's not the only one, HK has hands and Grimm snaps his fingers doesn't he?I assume characters with stick arms have fingers but they are really small, or they have those hairs that stick to surfaces
>>721826220Look at him again he seems so slow compared to the actual hard bosses. I can't believe he was the first wall for me that took several attempts.
>>721826442 Nothing compares to Mount Gay.
how do i open the gate in far fields near the merchant
>>721822878You find out about it after you get summoned to the crow court and decide to explore the area a bit to see if anything besides the enemy sprites has changed.
>>721824582Bilewater's theme was pretty kino
>>721826638court of crows was fucking cinema
>>721815873Thread made by a wannabe janny who wants discussion of the game to get banned.
>>721826702
>>721826625from the other side, you need the floaty dress.
>>721826625Check the bellway station for hidden passages.
GMS needs to be buffed asap. The gatekeeper of Act 3 should never be easier than a random fly boss in The Slab.https://files.catbox.moe/ovs5xy.mp4
>>721815640>/vg/fuck that place, it's not comfy at all. been waiting 8 years for this game and we'll do it on /v/
>>721827170Only if they make the cursed crest have some kind of advantage against her.
>>721822448Beast crest pogo attacks from all sides (basically invulnerable), other crests pogo leaves you vulnerable from certain angle
>>721827285I was 20 when I played Hollow Knight and 29 when I played Silksong.
>>721827451that's what i said, i was using the beast one like in the webm, and every pogo damaged me
>>721822627>Two princes metThose niggas were twin brothers
>>721814704Reminder that threads started on /v/ with "General" in the subject field are trying to get all threads on that game purged from /v/
>>721827170>GMS now does contact damage
>>721825456Juicing on lifeblood is silksong's equivalent to hiveblood
>>721826581I mean yeah but she's still by far the most difficult boss that you'll fight while your hp is still at 3 hits to kill
SOUL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC3Dd3eqZy8SOULLESS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLPsQinmAaA
>>721822003>>721822627>twins get born to common folk plain normal bugs>twins make a name for themselves because of their grace and strength>twins are genuinely in love with each other>twins manage to hunt the Palestag and the other bugs so impressed by this task proclaim them the Twin Princes of Verdania>Twin Princes rule and have lots of extremely degenerate incestuous sex>GMS wants to take over Verdania and tells them to submit>Green Prince is who the fuck knows elsewhere probably off masturbating in the woods>Green Prince's lover gives in to GMS in hope it'd save their kingdom and is taken to the Citadel to be experimented on>Verdania gets destroyed anyways>Green Prince returns to Verdania, gets captured, and thrown into Sinner's RoadThere. It's not particularly obscure or hard to understand.
>>721827991Also none of the locations in Silksong have a fraction of the soul as Dirtmouth.
>>721821293>Walkit's hilarious how well on do on bosses when i stop zipping around like a sperg and slow down and walk. takes like half my attempts>>721816618they are way too good at making games to stop. as long as they stay close to their formula and don't go the from route of turning everything into an adhd meme, they'll stay golden. i expect at least 2 games before retirement (at this pace lmao)>>721819546they could do another bug world game in a different kingdom, i like bugs. but they're creative enough to make anything work. i trust them
>>721828029>>twins get born to common folk plain normal bugsnta but where was this
I finally beat the game last night. As someone who didn't play Hollow Knight or any Metroidvanias before...I had a great time. It was frustrating at times (Bilewater in general was fucking bullshit), but still great, and would recommend.
>>721828127They're making a game about foxes next
>>721817942>This fucker is an absolute cancerfunny you should say that
>>721828172Are you gonna go play HK now?
>>721828172congratulations
TROBBIOOOOOOOOooooooo....
>>721828168In the Memory sequence. They specifically go over them not being anything special and only becoming rulers because of the trust and adoration of everyone else later.
>>721826158>this player is mid at best and cannot grasp the numerous combinations available in SSYet none of them beat default crest + full defense
>you get an actual machine gunlmao
>>721828183Source?
>>721828384>proceeds to do jack shit for damage
>>721828384its shit
>>721828183>fearless fox is the surface gameyou rike?also this means that playable hollow knight is a never ever if we're moving away from bugs>>721828437allegedly TC trademarked the name 'fearless fox'
>>721824321>Initially, it only described a man that raised another man's child.No it didn't. And its kinda absurd to think this as cuckoldry.
>>721828470>>721828490I wasn't gonna use it anyways but fair enough.
>>721822803Hornet is the Burger Queen.
ok hornet you can stop expanding your spool now
>>721828384It's pretty fun but more of a meme weapon. >doesn't do enough damage to justify the rosary cost when you get it>by the time you can throw away rosaries it's the late game and it's even less useful>you can only reload at a bench, meaning you can't use the Architect crest to keep your ammo up while exploring I used it with poison and while it could delete a few enemies safely from far away it just ran out of ammo too quickly. A non-bench reload or magazine upgrade would be kino.
>>721828692Xpand SKONG
>>721827991voiding the Pharloom map in act 3 is a cool novelty for the first 10 minutes but soon after i just thought it ruined the map desu
For me it's sharpdart
>>721828692How did you get the Weaver eyed mask icons?
>>721828853Sharpdart and Runerage are underrated.
>>721828883it's what happens when you succ GMS' corpse
>>721828883It's a mod
>>721828692this moment was pure kino
>>721828969I have literally never used Runerage
>>721828883by establishing dominanceit's just a brief HUD effect in the first ending
After getting all achievements except steel mode and speedrunning, I have to say:It sucks how the game hasn't been playtested. It is a good game but it suffers from poor pacing, poor balancing and stuff a dev realizes after getting your game playtested by different groups.The difficulty spike is all wrong. Grandmother silk is harder than act 1 bosses. You don't get double jump or wall jump after A LOT of time. Resources are all wrong. There are almost no rewards for bosses or exploration. Gauntlet rooms drop nothing. Act III shouldn't even exist and it should have been translated into acts I and II and polished. The game is too long for its own good. Lace is a literal who and should be more relevant. Tools should have less charges and shards shouldn't exist.Contact damage should be tuned down, except some cases, nothing sucks more than getting hit by those for 2 damage and I swear enemies don't get pushed back like hollow knight, so you can get hit more.I liked it and some parts of the difficulty where goof challenging but bullshit like having to do all over again for example in coral tower or Carmelita sucks. In coral tower for example I would have been fine with more resting points and more rooms if that was their idea.
>>721828692this should be an unlockable after 100% steelsoul
>>721828969how do you ever get Runerage to hit with more than one circle?
>>721828969>use runerage exactly once>get lightly scratched by a flying mob and lose my entire spool worth of silk>never try it again
>>721829070I think it was only playtested by complete dick suckers and speedrunners, basically yes men.
>>721829070Trvke
Supposedly the android port is out
God, what the fuck man. Why does this game ALWAYS go overboard with everything? Was throwing two of these faggots at you at the end really necessary?
>>721828731I think it would be perfect if you could reload with a long animation that locks hornet in place.The damage already sucks for the cost. Why not let it be the one tool you can use indefinitely between benches by default?
>>721829070*Grandmother silk is easier
>>721829316sure would be nice if you got a pal of your own to help you for this specific gauntlet
>>721829070The game would be significantly better if Sherma was the central character of the story instead of Lace.
>>721829316I gave up on this, went and explored, then went back and cleared it first try. If you want to just get it over with, use Poison Cogflies and save them for the last two guys.
>>721829403Idk how you get Garmond for this. I met him several times in Choral Chambers and talked to him but he never showed up. :(
>>721829316>he doesn't knowI don't know if you can get both to help but there's TWO buddies that can help you with this gauntlet
am i missing something or do i have to be frame perfect when jumping here
>>721829256It 100% was. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bad at hollow knight so I could deal with the difficulty, but something like half players haven't even beaten the last judge? Not taking into account mods that makes the game easier, the pacing is nuts. The dream bosses are also fucked up, one is clearly harder than the others for example. Most of the difficulty is contact damage and enemies don't being pushed back by your attacks.
>>721829585>am i missing somethingYes
>>721829316Get good enough at the regular enemies that you can save your tools for the end and/or go explore the rest of the map.This is supposed to be the ultimate wave fight of act 2, it's well placed even if you don't appreciate that yet.
>>721829585You're not missing any tools or spells. You can do it with what you have, but it technically doesn't involve jumping beyond only the first jump.
>>721829070You are unironically a shitter and your opinions reek of redditor cope
>>721829426>Protecting Sherman through his pilgrimage I could dig a game mechanic for that
>>721828969Runerage would only be useful if it had the cast time cut in half
>>721815640Why do people complain about actual fucking videogame discussion on /v/ and not the AI slop generals that have been going non-stop for two years?
>>721829695What makes people post these? I already beat the game, I'm already good enough, at least better than 80% of players, seeing the steam statistics.
>>721829663>>721829684yeah i just figured it out hehe
>>721829554Shakra can help too
>>721828853it scratches that HK shadow dash itch, but let's be honest unless youre maining shaman theres very little reason to not be using storm thread at all times.
>>721829781Jeets
>>721829781Coom = goodLiking things = BAD
>>721829853Ive never seen shakra even set foot inside the citadel.
>>721829317Yeah that would have been fine. No reloading in hectic situations but if you're exploring you can reload between fights. I have so many rosaries I wish I could just use the cannon to blast shit while exploring.
>>721829070>poor pacingCorrect. The game feels terribly paced and way too long for its own good. Reminds me a bit of Witcher 3 in that regard.>The difficulty spike is all wrongYes, but not in the way you're saying. The problem is that it's way too punishing at first, but piss-easy later. Hollow Knight's difficulty curve grew normally with time, that was better.>There are almost no rewards for bosses or exploration. Gauntlet rooms drop nothingYes.>Lace is a literal who and should be more relevant. Yes, and it's why the story in act 3 falls so flat.>Tools should have less charges and shards shouldn't exist.Yes.
>>721828853It takes way too long to activate. If it activated faster, it would be better
>>721829640I think the pacing is my main issue with the game in general.I went into the whiteward and then to the Mount Fay. This meant i got two crucial upgrades one after another.After this, i spent at least 15 hours getting jack shit for interesting upgrades. Only like 1 boss dropped an upgrade (silk heart). Mask upgrades felt stretched to shit and back and not impactful since you need 8 fragments to feel any real difference. I could barely use tools because enemies drop jack shit for shell shards. I was forced to farm for side quests. The game started reusing minibossesIt was a dreadful, boring as fuck, overstretched segment of the game that culminated in an even worse version of itself with act 3. I think even in La Mulana which is more of a puzzle game than metroidvania you got upgrades and character development at a steadier rate.
>>721825654Most of the small world enemies should deal 1 damage. The small spider things should deal 1 damage. The things in grey wood for example. Any non big enemies should deal 1 damage and 1 contact damage except some attacks.
>>721829403>>721829450>>721829580>>721829682Fair enough, I'm gonna go do Cogwork Core then.
>>721829867I used the spear, sharpdart, and the three spikes the most.storm was an act 1 crutch but once I got gud it stopped being useful
>>721830002>wahhhhh the game didn't give me my gacha dopamine hit every 30 seconds >:((((((((
>>721829732>Sherma finishes his pilgrimage and is allowed into the Cradle>he's the one who saves you from Mother Silk by kicking Hornet out of her reach and gets corrupted together with her instead>becomes a final boss, since he's tiny he now resembles the Knight, uses musical attacks with void corrupted strings, one of the attacks sings his signature melody, the fight is an actual Silksong
>never did Skull TyrantWhere did the Pilgrim (Pilby) go? There's a bug that looks like him in the background.>Sherma at Songclave after WhitewardWill he just chill here until story progression?>saw Garmond a few times in lower Choral Chambers but nowhere else
>>721829960>>721830002I like the idea of getting kidnapped and moved to the slab, which forces the player to be moved, but the thing is that 80% of people that get into mount fey leave because they feel they need an upgrade for the cold. That makes people get the double jump much much later, which sucks. This is yet another sign the game wasn't playtested. The devs already had the knowledge double jump was there.
>>721829070>bullshit like having to do all over again for example in coral tower or Carmelita sucksNah that's the good shit, they're obviously extensions of the bosses themselves.
>>721830027We believe in you, faggot.
>>721830146What the fuck has a gacha to do with this? Unlike you, i love metroidvanias. Silksong is possibly the least rewarding and most poorly paced metroidvania i've ever played.
>>721830187Pilby is in Pilgrim's Rest if you didn't start Act III
>>721830195It's good design.Players that conquer a challenging area early get a reward that gives extra movement and exploration opportunities compared to players that decide to come back later.
>>721829938>Ive never seen shakra even set foot inside the citadelanon...
>>721830245Sounds like your opinion is shit and so are you
I hate this game. It is a bad game. It is hard and difficult and tedious, therefore it is bad. I am not bad at it, though. The game itself is bad. I am not bad.
>>721830302
>>721830245You're the one crying that you don't get a big flashy reward for beating every enemy in the game.
>>721830415Sounds like you're trying to strawman your way into dismissing criticism by pretending the only criticism is people whining about difficulty.
>>721830245It's one of the cultist cucks who takes any criticism of Silksong as a personal attack. Don't waste time on it, it's not a human being and it doesn't deserve rights.
>>721830397Can you get both Garmond and Shakra at the same time helping you?
>>721830195I didn't get the double jump until much later, and lots of the obstacles I faced were 100% doable without it, just harder. It shows the game WAS well playtested because they made sure lots of progression wasn't gated behind the double jump. It made both paths viable.
>>721830020the small spiders attack is very similar to that of those big flying fucks that Beastly spawns, the claws are even bigger than those guy's sting, or course it should deal 2 damage.
>>721828248At least finish in style!
>>721830474It is simply a fact that the game is bad. There can be no other explanation, because the game is simply bad. Everything I do not like about the game is bad design, because the game is bad, while everything I do like is good design, but the game is still bad. I am good at it, it is simply a bad game.
So GMS made all the weavers..the weavers locked her up because they were all cunts. Then ran away when they realized they can't keep her asleep forever.Hornet is half Pale King, half Herrah, so half Wyrm, half weaver.So GMS is Hornet's GrandmaLace is GMS' silk daughterSo Lace is Hornet's auntieAm I correct?
>>721830472Return once you play at least one other metroidvania, zoomershit.
>>721830397Why does half the playerbase only swear by reaper? It's objectively the worst crest in the game, and yes I am aware beast exists.
>>721830612Yes, but there's going to be lots of art of them fucking regardless
>>721830645It's the first Crest that most people will find and has a normal downslash so they stick with it.
>>721828248>>721830602I like how after you beat the second version of his boss fight, if you come back to the stage and wait for long enough he'll pop out and look around, then freak out when he sees Hornet and duck back under.
>>721830523No, the NPC allies are on a priority list. Of the people you meet the requirements for, the higher ranked NPC takes precedence.
>>721815878Based
>>721830645Because it's the easiest crest to find and because it's good at pogo, and in combat it's good at hit & run tactics which is a safety net people like using until they get good at the game.
>>721830397You can also permanently remove clawmaidens from this fight
>>721829828..so what are you supposed to do?
>>721830645The big, slow, arcing attacks feel very intuitive and rhythmic to me and fun to use. I see a lot of people claim that the endgame is damn near impossible if you're using Reaper. Those people are simply bad at the game because I cleared it using Reaper without issue. Yeah Lost Lace was pretty gay
>>721830640You sound a little upset, anon.Maybe you should take a little nappy and change your diaper.
>>721830675Who cares what trannies draw?
>>721830420So the Rhinobug will kill him?
>>721824454I like that, it keeps earlier areas still deadly. I hate it when upgrades makes the rest of the game irrelevant.
>>721830397i asked garmond to help me back in greymoor, but i never really saw him show up afterwards. not shakra either, so i just had to soldier through this encounter.
>>721830824Speaking from personal experience, i see.
>>721830645It's got the lowest DPS but the most intuitive moveset.You trade off some damage for having a great moveset.Only shitters use crests like Wanderer or Architect btw.
>>721830723After getting used to hunter vertical downslash is really overrated, also the reaper one isn't "normal" it has a hitbox delay that feels horrible compared to wanderer for example.
>>721830640The cultiest trannies who slobber this game's knob haven't ever touched another Metroidvania.
Bros I need more... How do I cope?
when i read these threads, i realize how bad at video games i am
>>721830924Play the superior game.
>>721830889>>721830917
>>721830915No it doesn't, you just suck
>>721830876You can absolutely keep progression intact without turning areas into a cakewalk. They went with the least creative and the dullest method possible.
>>721830924Play slower.>32 hours in at Trobbio
Gauntlets are good and I'm tired of pretending they're not.
>>721830989pic unrelated?
Remind me why I'm supposed to hate Beast Crest.
>>721830989Is there a single moment in Silksong even remotely approaching the level of entering City of Tears?Citadel? It's boring as fuck in comparison. High Halls have water streams but it's such a featureless non-area it hurts.
>>721831030im probably gonna be at something like 55 hours by the time i clear act 2. i understand there's an act 3, but im gonna take a break and play something else for a bit.
>>721814704No, but I clapped. Flew across the ocean to save his wife from the void. It was kino.
>>721831106it has a bad pogo
>>721814704Is there a lore reason why Hornet resurrects at the last bench losing all her rosaries and needing to recraft tools? I beat the game but I'm still mad at shards being a resource you need to grind for.
>>721831106You could literally do the same with wanderer but better.
>>721830989Finished it twice. I think Silksong is a better game but HK clicked more, especially the atmosphere. Might finish godhome but I really enjoy exploration much more than bossfights
>>721829781because autists can't accept that people like something the autist doesn'tit doesn't make sense to their fucked up brains
>>721831138>his wifeAnon, they're siblings...
>>721830848rent free
>>721831131>even remotely approaching the level of entering City of Tears?Choral Chambers through the backdoor did it for me
>>721831191>I beat the game but I'm still mad at shards being a resource you need to grind for.I still have absolutely no idea what was their trail of thought behind this retardation. It just turned tools into a farm to win mechanic.
>>721831191>I'm still mad at shards being a resource you need to grind for.Shards being a grindable resource is important game design. If you're reliant on tools and constantly run out of shards against a boss then it forces the player to take a break from slamming their head into a wall to go grind some rosaries to buy more shards or go to an easier area.
I want to bang the mother...
>>721830645I only equipped it in the webm because I never use it and tried to get used to it. But from what I can tell it's>wide range and extremely wide arcs means it's good for pogo, also it freezes you in the air for a moment after succesfully pogoing>the sprint attack feels and looks good>the attacks are slow and sound like they do more damage so people think they do more damage (they don't)that's about it. I think the reason many stick with it is because the 45 degree diagonal pogo of Hunter filters a lot of people, then they find Reaper and feel its pogo and say "oh thank god" and never take it off. But compared to Wanderer it's pretty subpar overall.
>>721831106people will tell you "it has a bad pogo" and just completely ignore the exitence of the Great Equalizer™
>>721831131Bellhart and the Slab did it for me. It's hard to compare to HK since HK was a fresh game and Silksong just builds on it. I think they pretty much squeezed as much surprise factor as they can
>>721830924You could play Astlibra to fill the void.
>>721831341>grinding is LE GOODKill yourself.>s-skil-Put a gun in your mouth and blow your head off. Right now.
>>721831106It's weird and we're still at the stage where people suck enough to care about "strongest" instead of playing in weird ways for the fun of it.I'm doing Beast next playthrough for sure.
>>721831023I barely ever felt that a reward was worthless after a challenge, but maybe that's cause I'm not an upgradefag. Tell me a game that does what you say and I'll suck your dick.
>>721831452Astlibra is an actually good game with a fantastic postscript act tho
>>721831472It is unironically a skill issue on your part, anon.If you can't kill a boss by spamming your tools then maybe you should try doing a few attempts without tools so you can actually learn how to fight the boss.
Someone give me a QRD on the Witch Crest.
>>721831549>bad game design is a LE SKILL ISSUEKill yourself on livestream. I want to watch you die.
>>721831526Lost Crown on highest difficulty. The enemies in that game don't fuck around and platforming challenges become absolute bullshit.You can still get absolutely ass raped by the fat dude to the right from the main hub even after getting all upgrades.
>>721831610I already explained that it's good game design, anon.I'm sorry your IQ starts with a decimal point.
>>721831030Finished the game in 95 hours so I took my time too
>>721831556it eats the refuse of your anus
>>721831661It is objectively bad game design. You thinking otherwise just makes you a retard, it doesn't change reality.
>>721829129What ability and slots would the god crest have?
>>721831706>It is objectively bad game design.I don't think you know what objectively means.
>>721821953That's fine bro, if you aren't having fun don't do it.
>>721831106Lack of blue tools mostly. Wanderer lacks a 2nd red tool which might arguably be worse, but it makes up for it by having such a strong moveset.
>>721831749>N-NUH UH! YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!It is factually shit game design. Get over it. I hope you get murdered soon.
>>721831341Not only are shards a shit design, the way tools currently exist is a shit design too because of how they work for bosses.If you spam tools at bosses without figuring their patterns out, it won't be enough and you'll eventually die. You're back at the bench except you lost 120 shards. If you're a shitter who keeps spamming this tactic you'll run out of shards fast and rosaries soon too.If you're good you'll learn the boss attack pattern before using your tools. But when you know the boss attack patterns you can win with just your nail and silk skill, then the tools feel redundant.And many bosses are deliberately designed to have their "main" phase be the last phase where they're allowed to go all-out. When you save your tools and spam them all in the last phase to skip it, you're essentially skipping and avoiding an important part of the boss fight designed to truly test your skills.Tools shouldn't cost shards and their boss damage should drop off the more you spam the tools. Each successive instance of tool damage to a boss should be reduced if you already hit the boss with tool spam in the last 5 seconds.
>>7218317165 slotsYou can equip anything you want in each slot.
>>721831556It has 3 blue slots which is pretty convenient. Double heal + fast heal + trobbio charms lets you deal a shit ton of damage when you heal, it makes gauntlets and bosses like the unraveled much easier.
>>721831131I took the citadel as a single mega-area conceptually (including underworks) and I quite like it.Entering act 2 was therefore the closest equivalent for me, but it's not going to be the same because Silksong is more directed and less mysterious than the original. I feel like that played a big part in the impact of City of Tears.
>>721831848Nuh uh. Shards is good game design and you're a dumb poopoo diaper head.
>>721831847>>721831848Boy am I glad you guys don't make video games since you clearly do not understand game design.
>>721831556it's custom made for gauntlets. just forget about it for anything else.
>>721831556Best crest with the most fun healing system.
>>721831248Don't forget to dilate today.
>>721831848NIGGER
>>721831856I'd say it also has the best charge attack as well. You can mash the button for extra hits which can burst down enemies pretty well. Have to worry about knockback though and you only have 1 yellow venticrest to use.
>>721831952>no argument whatsoever>just "NUH UH IT'S GOOD N UR DUM"Concession accepted, Team Tranny cocksucker.
>>721831556Witch has the best moveset but the heal is replaced by an aoe attack with lifesteal.Built for people that are good at the game.
>>721828183Fuck, they should get the Redwall IP or Mouseguard IP and make one of those.
>>721831530Despite the Void corruption in Act 3 being super similar to the Geas corruption in Postscript, the main reason it's actually tolerable in Astlibra is because you get randomized tablets that can supercharge your gear to pure bullshit levels. That and a lot of the Karon skills make raping hordes of monsters a ton of fun (cough healing when attacked during frames of an active spell cough). That and no contact damage aside from some enemies where contact damage should be super obvious.
>>721831952>Boy am I glad you guys don't make video games since you clearly do not understand game design.I'm not a game developer, but if I were a playtester for this game I'd tell Team Cherry that the existing shard system sucks and it'd be a better game if they listened to me.
>>721825954>1. Nyleth
>>721832037Already explained to you why it is good game design (and why you're bad at the game).Keep the (You)s coming though.
>>721831556Expectation: funny tentacle rape lifesteal nukesReality: the range is short as dick and enemies have a bad habit of sliding to the other side of the world when you bind
>>721814704I'm still in act 2 this game is fucking huge
>>721832114The only poster who made an argument was >>721831848 and you ran away from it instead of addressing any of the points.Dilate and then rope, you fucking tranny.
>>721815878dude who cares if your wife has taken gallons of cum? Its in the past?
>>721832049Don't forget that RNG table also introduces UNIQUE spell upgrades that completely change the way they function. It's insane that a single dude in his basement did more than an indie team with infinite budget.
>>721831131>Is there a single moment in Silksong even remotely approaching the level of entering City of Tears?I kind of liked Hornet's "weaver dreams" when she acquires new weaver related skills or gimmicks. They felt distinctly alien and like Hornet is tapping into her ancestry in an interesting way.But no, nothing in Silksong sucked me into the game like City of Tears did in HK.
>>721831237I know that just makes it hotter
>>721832201His "argument" was "tools are strong and a crutch for bad players".Which they are, and running out of shards punishes bad players and tells them to learn to fight the boss properly or to leave and go farm more shards so they can attempt to brute force the boss again.Shards are a good system, you're just one of the tool abusing shitters that the system was designed to punish.
>>721831131the second time you meet lace in choral chambers and the music kicks in while everything comes to life did it for me, actually. I don't know what you guys need.
>>721828731Bro fuck the cost, it takes half of its capacity to kill a single guy.
>>721832372>still not even a semblance of an argument2-0.
>>721830602what do i get from beating this guy? didn't feel like throwing myself at it last night.same with the unwoven guy under white ward, is he worth beating right now?
>struggle on Karmelita for an hour>fuck it cheese time>tacks + poison + double throwShe got fucking melted and I feel no shame
>contact damage>contact damage>contact damageI don't understand why contact damage is problematic. When did this become part of the discourse? Almost every game I've ever played has had contact damage.
>>721832474Keep telling yourself that, anon.Maybe one day it'll become real, and maybe one day you'll be able to beat those bosses legitimately!Good luck!
>>721829580You can't. The stronger one overwrites the weaker one.
>>721830207They are extensions for the coral tower boss, because it is piss easy I can understand that.But Karmelita would have been better with the ant castle idea. Boss is challenging and fun, but having to play the needle and kill the mobs every time is annoying. I like her singing while you fight the mobs but I think that idea could have been implemented better. Once again, the game shows it hasn't been playtested.
>>721832480A tool. I think it's required to beat him to unlock act 3 as well iirc
>>721832529Same but I just switched to Wanderer and bodytanked with a heal build
>>721825954Nyleth is the worst fucking boss in the game. Kill yourself.And Seth being in your top 5 hardest bosses means you are an omega shitter.
>>721827780kek i'm still playing the release version
>>721832534Because a big part of the skill ceiling in this game is pogoing all over the place and being airborneIf the enemy is big enough you can take damage even while pogoing it
>>721832480trobbio gives you a tool, but more importantly is mandatory to progress through whispering vaults>same with the unwoven guy under white ward, is he worth beating right now?very much yes. he gives you the second silk heart
>>721832607>Wandereryou didn't beat the game
>finally got twisted child endingThat fight wasn't even against Grand Mother Silk, it's against your own patience. I see now that all her attacks are pretty simple to dodge and you're just punished hard by trying to ignore them.
>>721832579>still no argument>just another concession3-0.
>>721820369
>>721832607what does a tank build look like?
>>721832657Is wonderer considered the cheese crest? I'm almost done with the game and Architect seems the most busted
I thought Architect gave you free tools but it still uses up shards? Well that's completely fucking worthless then
>>721832534Because it's usually DOUBLE contact damage. And enemies jump around all the time and don't get pushed back like hollow knight, so you have less control, so you have to learn all the patterns instead of reaction. Its elden ring artificial difficulty all over again, where you have to autistically learn all patterns to be sure it is not going to hit you with their body
>>721831848>If you spam tools at bosses without figuring their patterns out, it won't be enough and you'll eventually die. You're back at the bench except you lost 120 shards. If you're a shitter who keeps spamming this tactic you'll run out of shards fast and rosaries soon too.Good>If you're good you'll learn the boss attack pattern before using your tools. But when you know the boss attack patterns you can win with just your nail and silk skillGood too. How about people that understand the patterns and have decided to use tools as support? How about chipping away at bosses by using poison tools sparingly? How about using tools for enemies? Tools rewards you for using them well and shards punish you for using them badly, it's that simple.
>>721832657Kys Soulstranny.
>>721832752Wanderer and Architect are both massively overtuned.
>>721832206To be fair, KEIZO worked on Astlibra for twice as long as TC did Silksong. Maybe if they left Silksong on the oven for another seven years, we would've gotten a game as autistic as it. Fuck, imagine a six act Silksong.
>>721832785BASED
>>721832534The game is designed with high mobility in mind. Which makes contact damage a much bigger problem when bosses are way more mobile too and tend to lurch all over the screen unpredictably.Also remember Pure Vessel in HK? You could knock him on his ass but he'd go into his stagger state in a really unpredictable way, could keel over to the front or could get pushed to the back. And if he happened to touch you while staggered or while falling into the stagger state, you took 2x damage. A lot of Silksong bosses are like that, except it feels even worse because Hornet is about mobility way more than the Knight.
>>721832761>it doesn't completely break and trivialize the game so it's worthlessYou are just a shitter. Stop being a fucking shitter. Play your shitty babby movie games.
>>721831848>Tools shouldn't cost shardsI'm so glad retards on /v/ don't design games.
>>721832761Giving you free tool refills would trivialize the game even more than Architect already does.You're just bad, anon.
>>721832864>>it doesn't completely break and trivialize the game so it's worthlessYes.>Stop being a fucking shitter. No. I'm going back to Reaper. Slow and steady with nice range
>>721832761it's still great in the sense that tools greatly outperform silk skillsthere are also sections of act 3 where tools are free and thats where architect really shines
>>721832907>this retard is samefagging4-0.
>>721832534>Almost every game I've ever played has had contact damage.that makes you a freak. Most people will have played one or two AT MOST and that being a minor sliver of their gaming history.
>>721832045>Redwall style game by Team CherryHOLY KINO
>>721832790I want to like Beast but that charge and running attack has gotten me fucked so many times IMO Architect's charge attack alone makes it the most busted. It made Coral Tower a breeze
>>721832907Why does an ammunition based tool system need an extra ammunition system (which you need to grind for) on top of it? What would worsen about Silksong if the shards didn't exist and tools simply reloaded at the bench?
>>721832941>yes I am bad at the gameStop playing it. Worthless faggots like you are the reason games are babbified. You cry and cry until shitter patches are released to handhold pussy faggot baby cuck tranny faglord retards like you. It happened within days of Silksong's release. You did the same thing with your shitty rollslop games that you claim are the le hardest most epical games in existence you fucking parasite.
>>721832972>Everyone that doesn't like me is the same personI love this cope. It's even better because me and the other guys who replied to you get another example of why you're a dumb retard.
>>721832752its the crest for people who can't let go of base hollow knight moveset.
>>721832752It's not really cheese so much as having the best moveset. All swings do the same damage regardless of crest. Wanderer attacks the fastest so it does the most damage. Also has a great pogo which makes platforming easy. Architect is gotten relatively late and needs plenty of shards. It's still busted.
>>721833079>Stop playing it.Nope. Keep crying that I'm not gonna grind for shards
>they put in an item called the "Crust Nut" and I can't stop laughingI am become Reddit
>>721833087>i-it was someone else!5-0.
>>721832747Druid Eyes, quick heal, silk regen tool. You can also use Plasmium injector too
>>721833079>handhold pussy faggot baby cuck tranny faglord retardshoney wake up, new /v/ buzzword soup just dropped
>>721827780I wonder how many bosses would straight up be better fights without contact damage. There's a few where's it's probably fine to have it, but it would feel far better if some of the humanoid ones didn't do it.
>>721833145>I'm not gonna grind for shardsGood. Tools are a crutch and learning boss movesets and the appropriate time to use tools is the best thing you can do to conserve shards.
>>721833145This game isn't for you. You're a shitter who wants your hand held and you're the reason we got two baby mode patches. Kill yourself.
>>721832534A good chunk of recent metroidvanias managed to craft dangerous foes without relying on contact damage so it feels like a cheap game designer crutch that belongs to the past.Pic related did contact damage the best>normal enemies don't have contact damage >but enemies with spikes do, only from the spikes themselves>some enemies also weaponize their turning animation, like cannon zombies who hurt you with their canon as they turn around
>>721833136I dunno man, moments where you can just stand next to the enemy and wail on it are pretty rare, and the Reaper range is very useful during most encounters. Plus its pogo delay means you get a tiny bit more hangtime which can be clutch as hellBasically, Wanderer is great if you're already at top tier skill and are just in the boss's face at all times
>>721831106Honestly I'd replay just to experiment with crests I didn't use but I really don't wanna start a whole new playthrough for it
>>721833281>edgy Soulslop Bloodbored knockoffKEK these are the shitters crying about Silksong being too hard btw
>>721832907>I'm so glad retards on /v/ don't design games.Explain what is good game design here.
>>721832907Tool-like weapon systems functioned without craftables in metroidvanias at the very least since GBA, faggot.
>>721833281The main problem with not doing contact damage is that you might end up like Salt & Sanctuary where the only gameplay loop is to roll straight through the enemy and hit it from behind, repeat for 20 hours
>>721833052It would make map traversal and pattern learning irrelevant.>which you need to grind forYou don't need to grind for them if you're good at the game
>>721833371I know the magnet charm doesn't count for shards but isn't there one that does or is there no way to keep this from happening reliably?
>>721833338>Soulslop Bloodbored knockoffthat's LITERALLY Silksong though
>>721833371Practical jokes played on the player are always funny.
>>721833371They really, really should have made a shell shard magnet tool like they did for rosaries. Would've made my life 10x easier.
>>721833338Silksong is a bloodborne ripoff too, so i have no idea what you're crying about.
>>721833457You're supposed to just buy shard bundles
>>721833281>it feels like a cheap game designer crutch that belongs to the past.Videogame journo languageContact damage is what keeps map traversal interesting
>>721833412So just like Soulslop
>>721829070
>>721833475>>721833485>EVERYTHING is muh rollslop!It should be legal to kill Fromtards
>>721833536Yeah sure. Very applicable in this case, I've heard it called "the first 2D Soulslike"
>>721833412Salt and Sanctuary still had a bunch of absolutely terrifying enemies that weaponized their hitboxes in creative waysPic fucking related
>>721829316Once you get a few weapon upgrades, can consistently beat the previous ways without tool spam, and have saved up some silk some pre-emptive attacks, this final wave isn't that bad. It's basically just Watcher Knights but only two of them.
>>721833281Based Last Faith chad.
>Lost Lace phase 3>on one mask>she disappears, it does that huge void mass attack that's also the phase transition>go to the left wall, jump and dodge one>go the right wall, jump and dodge the other>while still in midway, and hidden by the void mass, Lace spawns directly bellow me and kills me with contact damageOkay, explain how was I meant to dodge that?There was nothing I could do. I'd committed to jumping above the void mass. Even if I hadn't I couldn't even see her spawn/teleport in.People saying she isn't input reading are full of shit by the way.I've had multiple instances where she's reacted exactly as she needed to while teleporting next to me but only after I pressed (if I jump she does the forward pirouette, if I attack she immediately parries, so on)
>>721833523Interesting traversal keeps traversal interesting. Contact damage is a sign of creative impotence. You confirm that you cannot design enemies for shit, you can only create hitboxes that dash into the player.
>>721833371LMAO
why is there some tranny seething about souls in a silksong thread
Bros I'm getting filtered by Shakira...why does she keep teleporting behind me...
Are there more Ori sequences like for that one heart piece in Far Fields?
>>721832649>>721832595>unwoven guyhis moveset throws me off pretty hard. more than trobbio. i'm gonna dick around some more and come back to throw myself at them. got some pointers for mt. fay last nightthanks for the response bros
>>721833772fun fact you can just cling to the highest point of either side wall and you won't get hit by the waves
>>721833371And even if you get them all it's like 20 shards or some shit.
>>721833772>Lace spawns directly bellow me and kills me with contact damageFloat while waiting for her to show up and then dodge in middair using silkclaw or your dodge while in middair? Lost Lace is completely fair.
>>721833841Unravelled is pretty rough sometimes cause his hit box is SO fucking big, I've gotten double-tapped by it while falling down from the first hitThe fight itself is pretty chill though
it was amazing, absolutely amazing, i've been playing video games for now more than 30 years and it's been one of the best experience i've ever had. absolute masterpiece, i feel lucky to be able to play such vidya
>>721833880No she's not it's a bullshit artificially difficult fight and the game sucks shit but I'm not bad at it
>>721833484they did it's called the rosary magnet.farming rosaries to buy shard bundles with is vastly more efficient than just farming shards.
>farm beads for 10 minutes>buy thousands of shards whoa... we NEED to talk about this CONTROVERSIAL mechanic in Silksong....
>>721833937Based video game loving chad. What are some more top tier games I should experience at some point?
>>721833880Explain to me how I'd even be able to see her given the void mass was literally on top of her. Did you somehow miss that part.
>>721833937You forgot to post about how it changed your life and made you realize that you're trans
>>721833937>71%You did not beat the game.
>>721831716>lance (long range/diagonal pogo)>5 yellow>5 blue>3 red>constant silk regen>only take 1 mask dmg>charging attack enhances running speed when held>release it to unleash a wave of spearsyes, I ripped this off Ender Lilies
>>721833789You make interesting traversal by... putting obstacles. Contact damage turns enemies into obstacles and oh wow makes spacing in combat relevant, you cannot name a reason why contact damage is a bad thingHmm I'm smelling the shitter cope...
>>721814704I'm mixed on the Coglies.On the one hand, they're awesome and I love them because I don't always want to deal with mooks.On the other hand, they're really powerful. Like cheese-y powerful.On the third hand I have as I live in Chernobyl, I want more ways of buffing them.
>>721834046Yeah, it's called waiting a second or two for the void mass to fuck off or to react to her trying to hit you while you're high in the air, retard.
>>721833976Stop excusing a bad fightKarmelita took me 5 hours to beat, and it was an actual good fight.
>>721833987Bold of you to assume thousands of shards will last me longer than 1 boss fight
>>721834069Kys Soulstranny.
>>721833929the trailing end of his cloak doesnt look like it should have a hitbox but absolutely does. Ive lost quite a few masks to just that
>>721833371this is my webm and I never had to farm for shardsI love games that bully me
I just beat silk-obaasama. No way this is the real end, right?
>>721834095Obstacles are obstacles. Enemies are enemies. Those are two entirely different things. If you're so impotent you can only think of enemies as damaging hitboxes, you don't belong to game design.
>>721831106I feel like the Bind should let you heal 4 by default, and maybe have some sort of mechanic where attacking at full HP extends the duration as well so you can keep it active indefinitely if you're aggressive enough.A big part of the point of it is obviously supposed to be that you can activate it at full health and then heal off damage you take while attacking but with bosses doing 2 damage per hit the math just doesn't really work out. You can't even really use Multibinder since it doesn't have a blue slot by default.Not being able to heal at all without taking the risk of getting close and attacking also makes it really bad at healing from low HP where other crests can just back off and wait for a safe spot and get out of damage of dying instantly(also exacerbated by no blue slots making Fractured Mask a big ask), and literally just useless in platforming sections where there's no enemies.It does basically give you a free Flea Brew so you can use it for damage which is the tradeoff I guess but if you don't need the healing and just want to kill bosses faster it's still worse than just using Wanderer or even the other decent crests and spending silk on skills for damage instead. A lot of bosses also don't really have openings long enough to make good use of the buff. If you only get to hit once or twice whether you're in rage or not it's not helping much.It is fun though and it's obviously not unusable or anything. I think Witch is worse because at least Fury has some real unique advantages, the Witch Bind is just a worse Silk Storm even if you invest a lot of tools into buffing it.
>>721834127No you see I am very very good, the fight is just bad, it is the fight that is bad, the game that is bad. I am not bad. The fight is bad.
>>721833987>they only sell them on packs of 50 and you can't buy multiples at a time
I do not want to keep playing.
>>721834220>no completion rateYou didn't beat the game.
What is the #1 undisputed best skill? No "it depends on the situation" fence-sitting allowed
>>721834253>50
>>721834114Kind of a shame that we didn't have any charm synergies in this game. I mean they weren't good in HK but it's still a fun idea
>>721834270Nice. Glad to know there's more
>>721834203>Matthewmatosis thought that this bench was spiteful to the playerWas he right?
>>721834127I'd say Kamelita is 99% good, but that 1% is the no-telegraph contact damage beyblade attack and that's garbage.
>>721834239>if I strawman my enemy that means I win!Keep excusing a bad fight. I'm sure it'll lead to better vidya!
>>721834264throw some bombs in his mouth like you're fighting Andross in Star Fox 64
>>721834286I liked the parry
>>721830612They are not related! Fuck sake!
>>721834357It made me realize after disabling the trap that it's bullshit Hornet even needs a bench, she could just sit down anywhereIt's spiteful to my immersion
what am i supposed to do here
>>721834384You do not understand. The fight is bad. The game is bad. I am not bad. It is the game that is bad. The fight that everyone but me has done without issue is bad. I am not bad. I am very good. The fight is bad.
>>721834286Thread storm. It's the GOAT in the early game when you have bad AA capabilities and are a shitter. It's GOAT mid/late game because it gives you more air time.>>721834320Just so you're aware, a large chunk of game completion is dependent on the hunter's diary and finding all the tools. If you're a completionist, have fun grinding.
>>721834463it's just lore
>>721834041NTA but if you haven't played Outer Wilds and you like exploration in games then you have to play Outer Wilds AND the DLC right now.It's a game that runs entirely on your own curiosity and knowledge-checks rather than ability-checks.Literal once-in-a-lifetime shit. The biggest downside is that spoilers legitimately ruin the game.
>>721834426Die, yuritroon.
>>721833610I already told you I beat the game, I have practically all the achievements. Are you retarded?. I swear pic becomes more true by the second
>>721834203huh. with how much bitching this one bench spawned I never thought you could just get up and dodge the trap.
>>721834426>obsidian skin with white hair and white eyesGod, Lace is so fucking hot. I want to beat her tummy until she pukes silk and cum.
>>721834475>89%You did not beat the game.
>>721834286Sharpdart is the coolestI like going anime mode and dashing through enemies.
>>721834540You probably abused tools and used Wanderer. You didn't beat the game.
>>721834475It's dependent on the hunter's diary in what way? Do I need to get all the hunter's notes (the beat it x amount of times ones)?
>>721834562Wat
>>721833984Kill big enemy>Reward: 5 shardsFound hidden shard cache>Reward: 15 shards Using a tiny needle costs: 10 shardsThis is not balanced and anyone defending this is retarded
>>721834540Why do you think about trannies constantly?
>>721834540>muh trannieskeep coping retard
>>721834579Kys Soulstranny.
>>721834587I just used that like an hour ago for the Savage Beastfly refightI'm dogshit at the game and sharpdarting into the asshole adds required superhuman (for me) levels of platforming to not fall to my death afterwards. Was fun
>>721834318I really missed Quick SlashEspecially wanted it on slower crests like Shaman (when I was trying it out).As an aside, I've heard people say that Witch is great for silk generation... why? Isn't Wanderer faster?
>>721834286thread storm is crutch as fuck. shit ton of damage whether you extend it or not, swats projectiles away, and there is simply no way to fuck up when using it unlike its big brother rune rage.
>>721833826Act 3 story stuff.
>>721834652Go buy some shard bundles, gurpinder.
>>721834618No, I did use hunter and almost no tools because I didn't want to farm. But I guess it is not enough for you git gud retards.
>>721834264Stay in the lower right corner of the arena after you clear the gauntlet. Right in the poopoowater. Nothing can hit you there except when he surfaces directly beneath you. Then you just cheese him out with poison boomerangs and cogflies.
What is the deal with the grumpy guy at the bottom of Bellhart? The one who keeps calling me a slave.
>>721834426Not biologically, but the Weavers are Silk's adopted children.
what is this? 2nd one i found and i have no idea what it does
>>721834652>if you're a nigger using tools and still not beating bosses quickly enough to not run out, then go grind some like a subhumanSeems based to me
>>721832534the real annoying shit is having to do the same shitty climbing segment to reach a boss you'll die multiple times over and over again.
>>721834041i'm a simple player, i've been playing different flavors of tetris my whole life, spent a lot of hours on tetrio lately, some of my absolute favorites games of all time includes fallout 1 & 2, anno 1800, TGM2 & 3, diablo 2, poe, isaac, stardew valley, AOE2, risk of rain 1, street fighter 4, factorio, warcraft 3 and all its custom maps (yes dota included), CS1.6, TF2, undertale, armored core 6, botw, super metroid, FF6 7 8 and 9, and probably a lot fucking more i'm forgetting
>>721834626You heard me.>>721834579The only time I've ever 100% completed a game was Void Stranger and that game gives you a 100% achievement completion every single time you start a new run.>>721834619You have to defeat enemies a certain number of times to complete entries, yeah. You also need all mementos, but that's a no-brainer.
>>721834850Are you shitposting
>>721834426>>721834626Kill yourself tranny.
>>721834652I farmed rosaries for 20 minutes and bought all the shard bundles I could and I satisfied all my tool needs through all the game. This is retarded
>>721834850it's simon saysmakes sounds in an orderhit bells in that order
>>721834850Anon, like in most of these kinda games, you have exactly two ways of interacting with the world: moving/jumping into shit, and hitting shit. Try them
>>721834818You will find out during Acto Tres (3).
>>721834874You would defend anything, you are just consumers. You are everything wrong with vidya
>>721834818You violated the nap
I'm so fucking tired of every boss dealing two hits of damage.
>>721834069I knew i could farm at least 1 more nail level and longer nail and all but I wanted to beat lost lace as I was, i'm definitely going to 100% though, but lost lace with be easier
>>721834818I'd be fucking mad too if some little shit interrupted my nap
>>7218349833,You can also play music at it.
>>721834818He's a snail that helps unleash the void in act 3
>>721835104True, I keep forgetting to do that
>>721835072Can you go back and get 100% on a save file that has already beat the game or do you have to start a whole new game?
>>721823238This I can agree with.
good bosses>widow>lace 2>first sinner>gms>cogwork dancers>phantomthat's about it, hope the dlc adds more good bosses
>>721834818thats exactly something a slave would asktry using needolin on him and see if you can find other NPCs who match the dialogue
>>721835178lost lace is 1000x better than lace 2
>>721834950dafuk? now i don't remember where the first one was
>>721835158you can continue on your save, it keeps you on the bench
>>721834286Pale Nails has no situation where it's not useful. It does great damage, has high accuracy, and you can cast it when you're not in danger and it'll hang around for a bit. It's good for gauntlets, it's good for bosses, it's good for exploration.Silkspear is good for ground-based groups but it's got surprisingly low range and lock you in place too longThread Storm is great for low mobility enemies or against projectiles, but when the enemies are too erratic you'll have trouble using it optimallyCross Stitch is fun but the timing is actually shit, you will often get hit because you pressed the button for it at the same time as when you got hit when you should use it right before. It's also somewhat...ambiguous on where you will actually reappear and if an enemy that move outside of your range actually takes the full damageSharpdart is shit, never saw anyone use it. Most of the tougher bosses have attacks that trail horizontally anywayLuv me Rune Rage for gauntlets, for any boss that actually move around it's worthlessIf you use the Shaman Crest Pale Nails and Cross Stitch have got to be mainstays. For the third slot either Rune Rage or Thread Storm.
>>721835178>no Karmelita
>>721834475>>721833937Man and I thought I was a shitter, I used reaper only too
>>721835276>Sharpdart is shit,you're shit, sorry.
>>721831848i had an actual reply written out but found out you're retarded by your other replies so i deleted it.
>>721835250not in a million years>final boss of the game is... a reskin of a previous boss except it's colored black and recieved the same abilities as the void corpse masses scattered across the maplol
>>721835368It's okay to admit you were filtered by her, anon.
what the fuck is her problem? why can't she just come down here and actually fight me instead of just floating away while throwing random bullshit? is this how bosses feel when fighting me?
>Mount Faydevs hate gamers right?
>>721834818He is a 4channer.
>>721835412>X is bad because it's a repeat of a previous fight and all the new stuff is just copypasted from common mobs>"so you found X too difficult?"were you dropped on the head as a child?
>>721833212>dive deep into the abyss>0 damage>shell comes in contact with lost lace>2 damage, one more than a strike from her pinMakes sense!
>>721835456My favorite platforming segment in the franchise
>>721835272Hell yeah
>>721835276You can't get Pale Nails until Act 3 which severely limits its actual usefulness. In general I think Silksong puts way too many useful upgrades too late into the game
>>721835456This is platforming 102 at best
>>721834837Not anymore they signed the divorce papers
>>721835456I found Sands of Karak harder than Mount Fay.
>>721835442No because you don't have nearly as many threefold pins to fire at them.
>>721835065Stop getting hit you dumb fuck
>>721835456from my experience, if youre having trouble with the platforming you're probably harpooning too early after a bounce
>>721835456Sands of Karak without double jump is way harder than Mt Fay
>>721835456I really don't get the hate, now the thought that someone must have cleared Karak without the double jump fills me with dread.
>>721835456>do some mild platforming between safe-zonesMt Fay is fun.
>>721835554Not a big deal considering this community survived on speedruns and wacky dlc challenges for 7 years
>>721835442If she just came down onto solid ground and 1v1d you she'd get her shit pushed in and she's aware of that which is why she fights the way she does.
>>721835456This game is a love letter to gamers and a hate letter to """gamers"""
>>721835456AAAAAAAAAAA IS THAT SOME PLATFORMING AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE
so does anyone else find the whole weavers/haunting/grandma/silk lore backdrop of this game to be thoroughly uninteresting compared to the lore of the 1st game? or just me?
>>721835758it's technically possible, but I got filtered before I even got to the first shortcut
>>721835554>You can't get Pale Nails until Act 3Well you can't get Shaman crest until Act 3 either, because apparently TC didn't want players to experiment with silk skills.
>>721835849I thought it was worse, but still incredibly cool and creative. Hollow Knight's being 10/10 doesn't make Silksong's 9/10 bad.
Don't spoil how the whole story progression works but can somebody please tell me, just out of interest: Are the hookshot and double jump just 100% optional? They're so far out of the wayI haven't ascended past the Cogwork Dancers yet so I dunno whether they will become mandatory. Busy clearing the lower half of the game
>>721835442One of the few NPCs I actually liked.
>>721835849The motivation is pretty weak."I've been captured and taken to this place. Instead of leaving, I'm going to beat up the boss because... um... because!"
>>721835904the game is so desperately asking for a NG+ I'm kind of surprised it wasn't in the game at launchIf it isn't in the first DLC they release they're making a big mistake
>>721835951>hookshotMandatory.>double jumpOptional.
>>721814704No, I'm not a cuck faggot
>>721835849I think that's always the case for sequels for games with very fragmented and obscure lore. The more you learn about the world the less ingriguing it is.
>>721835992Understood, thank you
>>721835904I mean, experimenting with silk skills is more of a silk-hearts issue than anything else. The shaman crest is just meh (the energy wave lasts a little while so it's decent at flea juggling)
>>721835849I don't know the story and I don't care, I just run around exploring shit and smacking cool bosses.
>>721830797jump and pogo
>>721835849It's equal in substance, but Hollow Knight is less direct so you get a satisfying feeling of mystery that is absent in Silksong. The difference is mostly psychological, but yeah the original had me more hooked into the aesthetics where Silksong has me more hooked into the gameplay itself.
>>721835960I liked the detail that second sentinel uses the same special attack showing that the pinstresses taught at the citadel before being hunted down
is the last needle upgrade only unlocked in act 3? cause i found all the fleas
>>721835849The story was a lot less convoluted and easier to follow this time around, which I liked. It just wasn't as good. After Widow shows up, I thought the Weavers would play a major role in the main plot but they really don't. Instead "Lace is the key to all of this".
>>721835849I think the game lacked for ambient storytelling.Stuff was just around, but didn't feel as connected
Cleaning up some of the world bosses after Lost Lace and they're all embarrassingly easy. Lost Garmond, Watcher at the Edge, Crawfather, Gurr the Outcast, none took more than three tries. Is Lost Lace the last hard boss left?
>>721835849honestly yeah, the only time my ears really perked up is when they hinted at lifeblood being another radiance sunny D situation
>>721835456Mt Fay was chill. I got mad at the Abyss escape more than at Mt Fay. Sands of Karak and Father Wisp, now that's hateful platforming
>>721836181Yes, you can't access the flea minigames until Act 3 and you have to high score all of them to get the Pale Oil.
>>721836235Silksong lacked the sovl of the first one.
>>721836224yeah early on in the game i really felt like the weaver-related ancestor dreams Hornet has were build-up for the story. turns out they just pull another Hollow Knight and escape out of the story without doing anything and we get mother-daughter drama instead
>>721835849I like itIt's less dense with interpersonal connections than Hollow Knight so maybe there's less to dig into there, but I like that the weavers are being cast as this setting's chozo, or how silk was used by pharloom and how that led to the haunting, and I think that's more interesting conceptually than the infection and the mothsThe Pale King's shenanigans easily clear whatever the fuck grammy was doing thoughever, there's a reason they had to last minute shoehorn some more interesting void shit into the story
>>721836250It sounds silly since it just the base version with some extra bells and whistle, but I found tormented trobbio to be unusually hard. Maybe it was just sensory overload idk.
>>721835974I mean they might capture you again if you don't do anything. Especially after learning you're half weaver half wyrm
>>721836250The only one of those that even killed me was Lost Garmond and that's because I didn't respect his void bullshit enough and ended up getting combo'd in a corner. Watcher at the Edge was easier than the first big mob in Hollow Knight.>>721836420He was hard, took me a couple tries. It was all the visual noise.
>>721836235Everything kinda fed into the citadel, but that's a little overly centralizedI guess HK was pretty similar in that regard though
>>721835849More than that it's uninteresting the problem is that it isn't coherent. In HK you get a much clearer picture of who did what and why, SS's story is both much more convoluted and less clearly conveyed.
>>721836420Regular Trobbio took me a long time but I think I was used to him by the second fight, it wasn't bad. I wish the reward was better. I get what you mean, though, there's a ton of visual noise.
Make the new thread
>>721836250Gurr especially felt like a cut act 1 boss
Why didn't Silksong have an 'entering City of Tears for the first time' moment?
>>721834232Holy shit you're a midwit, damn
>>721836595You didn't feel anything when you got to act two and Choral Chambers started playing?
>>721836235Hornet not being a silent protagonist is the main reason for that
>>721836673
what is so great about him?
>>721836595the awakening of the Coral Chambers comes fairly close to City of Tears
>>721836595>you're not the hollow knight
>>721836550Dilate.
nvke incoming: phantom should've been Hornet's rival, not Lace
>>721836634No need to get angry because you were proven wrong.
I do think that Silksong had some really beautiful locations. Greymoor was so haunting for the first thirty minutes I was exploring it; the 'lost' areas (Verdania and the Coral Tower) are gorgeous, the Citadel itself lives up to all the hype that the game directs towards it, the little hidden areas like Brightvein and Voltnest are gorgeous and feel like great rewards for exploring. The whole of Mt. Fay is great, to be honest. I really liked the Slab, too.
>>721836595I didn't feel anything more than "this place is cool" when entering these sort of areas for the first time>DUUUDE entering Anor Londo for the first time....I only ever appreciate them when I look at them in detail
>>721836878I don't really care for Lace but Phantom's whole appeal is that he's kinda forgotten and fucked up
>>721836878literally anyone would be better than lace
